In Iraqi Kurdistan, Vice's Ben Anderson met those involved in the fight from the frontline to the Kurd's former guerrilla president to ask why the group recently voted for independence and what hopes they have for achieving a state of their own. WATCH NEXT: Fighting ISIS - ruclips.net/video/5EUachAFhEA/видео.html
If only your big Texan Oil Sociopaths didn't need instability to interrupt the construction of the Gasprom pipeline when Assad said no to the US pipeline from IRAQ, it makes perfect sense your country would turn their backs on the kurds... their hate of russia is far greater at the top end of town.. You know, the religiously weird, white, old, racist fucks that totally hold the most powerful bureaucratic positions the world has ever offered up... Can you do a story on this Truth pls....
Seen one other that was hidden as it showed the views of a British Holocaust denier. It would seem that RUclips is very dedicated in hiding unwanted content. I can understand that the Holocaust denier is hidden, but this VICE video is far from being at the same level.
That ending quote is rather powerful. "When a people tell you "I want independence," by what logic is the correct response to go annihilate them? It's an existential battle for survival. They've killed and exiled civilians, tens of thousands of people. That's all not a crime, but a nation saying they want independence, is."
@@Krm3458 They created a conflict that doesn't need to be one. The Turks barely did shit about Isis and the Kurds fought hard for their land and now the Turks think they can just yoink it away from them? That's not right.
Modest Swallow That land doesn’t belong to the Kurds. It is illegal to annex land acquired during times of war under international law. “Kurdistan” is a fantasy.
I know many Kurdish folks and they are very humble and hard working people. I wish them the best in their fight for freedom and independence. Keep it up VICE this is the reporting we need daily!
You know the usa supported the kurds that are in a group called the YPG, that group is directly linked with a terrorist organisation recognized by usa,turkey and eu. It automatically makes the YPG terrorists, you are literally supporting a terrorist organisation, not the kurds, if you want to aupport the kurds, support peshmerga not kurds that do terrorist acts, the pkk/ypg killed over 40 000 turkish citizens, I’m guessing you are indian and thay you are just trying to support those who are fighting for a nation but you have to understand that it’s not because the usa supports them that they are innocent and need to be supported, there is around 18M kurds in turkey, do you really think that turks would kill kurds ? They’ve lived with us for centuries we are just trying to keep our country safe
I agree with that, the Kurdish people are very good proud people who do not want war and have been oppressed for too long. They only fight so they can eventually have a peaceful life. They are not extremist and they treat women as an equal. I hope some day soon they will their own country and you are right the Whole World does owe them this.
Saman - The American people are sorry for Trump abandoning you. It's wrong to shit on friends and allies that fought for us. We wanted to stay and help the Kurds establish their own country, and our elected politicians also wanted to do this. Trump should not have had the authority to pull our US forces out of Syria. Our politicians in Washington and our US military are also pissed at Trump for doing this and betraying our friends. The Kurds are the heroes of the world, because you people are the ones that defeated Isis. You deserve to have your own country and govern yourselves.
Saman Hasani if trump was starting a war then congress could do something to stop it but since he’s just pulling our troops out they have no power over that decision since the president is the commander in chief of the armed forces. Personally I think it’s bullshit that is too much power in the hands of one person. Trump is ignoring his generals, his soldiers, the American people, politicians from both parties, etc... who are all telling him this is a terrible idea. Americans are tired of the endless war in the Middle East and we want to leave but bailing on our allies like that isn’t ok
What is the UK and the rest of Europe doing about this? This is not America's problem. We have been there long enough, almost 8 trillion spent in this endless war, time we pull out. That is not our problem. Enough being the world police, it is time for the UK and the rest of Europe to step up and do something about this.
@@brantley2171 If you want to be a world power, you have to act as a world power. Europe isnt a world power. The US is. Right now the US has shown the world that it doesnt care about its allies. Trust me, the way this has played out scares countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia a lot. They need the US. Anyway, just now the US gave away its power in Syria because Trump wants to win the election. And what do we see? Russia steps in. The US just gave a big part of their power away. And what that all means is even worse: the american allies do not trust the US anymore. Trust me, Israel and the Saudi's are not happy at all. Again: if you want to be a world power. You have to act with arrogance and power and the willingness to force your way on countries. The US did exactly that for the last 80 years. Now its foreign politics is falling apart. So yea, it is America's problem. If the US politics wont change and keeps pulling back from the world stage, it leaves behind a gap for someone else..... Russia? China? Europa? Who knows. Even the great Roman Empire didnt live forever.
@@brantley2171 if the US doesn't want the child he shouldn't have impregnated the problem in the first place. Clean your own shit and stop acting like it's not your fault because it is.
@@PrismFoxes The video implies that it took place right after the Battle of Prde, which happened late October 2017. If the video merely referenced that battle but in 2019, it would have at least talked about developments since late 2017 (when the Iraqis took Kirkuk after the Kurdish independence referendum), but it did not. My guess is that Vice was being lazy about the new war between Turkey and the Syrian Kurds and said "hey let's release a previously unreleased video from 2017" to hide the fact they haven't been doing much war reporting lately.
@Ur Boi Ali that's not true at all! What about the the oil fields of Erbil and Slêmanî ? You don't know anything about kurds and the government doesn't know what's good for us all the care about is the money and you guys support it
@Ur Boi Ali what in the world are you talking about !?!? What about all those peshmergas who sacrificed their lifes for kirkuk and the east side of mosul??
@Ur Boi Ali we are not denying the support from Iraq we guys love you and and we have mad respect for you guys but we are not asking for other nations lands we just want our lands back and history proves it
What a brave nation, long live Kurds and Peshmerga who helped a lot to destroy ISIS! Ben Anderson is the greatest reporter, hope to see more content like this, because that is why I subscribed to VICE in the first place
@Jeff Yeh yeah but he and Gianni Tobani were the only two reporters I could trust. Vice is great, but they don't cover the news like they used to. Ben had done SO much war corresponding that he actually had to step away, it was getting to him. Check Joe Rogan. ruclips.net/video/KOilZ69NwIc/видео.html
@Craft9841 last time I checked, a system of government based on commune tactics, no currency, and government housing for all Kurds is more aligned with communism than it is democracy.
zak ortega You have no idea, AT ALL, what you are talking about. Communism and democracy are in no way correlated. The Kurds have consistently pushed for democracy, even attempting to establish a non-religious democratic state in the Middle East.
Well, a decade or two down the road, they will probably be enemies. If you look at the various groups who are big US enemies today, they were usually allies that the US stabbed in the back not that long ago.
@@wilson1799 Sadly, that is probably what doomed them. The US HATES democracy since it comes with the risk of people deciding to not do what the US wants them to do,.. dictators and autocrats are much easier to work with.
As an American I am completely ashamed of how we left the Kurds. They bravely fought isis and was more effective than any other army in that region, and to turn our backs on the only people that kept the terrorism at bay is simply idiotic. I hope a new US president will realize this and mend relationships with the Kurds as soon as possible, before isis has time to rebuild and come back stronger. May god be with you people of Kurdistan.
Well said... They'll try n cover up that angle as if letting Putin run riot in Syria wasn't enough the new superpower of the middle east is born.. Watch out Israel
Im glad we pulled our troops out of that hell hole, the one question I have is how does 50 US soldiers make a difference in that shit hole? Democrats what happen to being the anti war party? that's right you're political preference is all you care about..
America has played very well here ! All the blame and backlash for the Middle East conflicts was directly at America ! So they slowly and slowly have replaced themselves by Russians . And Russians have fallen into the trap Russian economy is not at all capable of supporting it to be the world super power Russia will fall so badly just wait and watch .
hanafiy fei Bro we had our own countries but they weren't recognized by western or Russia or USA. Like Kurdistan kingdom, Republic of Kurdistan, Republic of Ararat, Red Kurdistan.... etc
I had to pause halfway through, absolutely brutal. Write to you local representatives and tell them why betraying our allies will not only kill innocence but will perpetuate violence in the region. Heart breaking.
I’ll always stand with the Kurds after visiting Erbil in 2014, there’s good people there, I don’t know why the west doesn’t support them more they have a beautiful culture and they’re a very moderate people I’d gladly visit erbil again #FreeKurdistan #LongLiveKurdistan
Sadly, US foreign policy highly favors autocrats. Being moderate and democratic is a major strike against the Kurds, and it was only a matter of time till the US pushed someone to overthrow them anyway.
The Kurds will survive one way or another.The U.S needs to make there situation better, because the Kurds are who the U.S government runs to when shit hits the fan in Iraq.BTW I in the live U.S one hr from the White House..
Nope. The Peshmerga ran away in front of ISIS in 2014, just like the iraqi army. That's how the Yazidis got left behind to their fate. That's how ISIS took the Mosul Dam. The only thing that prevented a total collapse of iraqi kurdistan was Masoud Barzani telling U.S. Central Command Iraqi Kurdistan was going to fall. As a result Obama was pulled out of date with his wife at a DC restaurant in order to be breifed on the catastrophe and ordered the immediate intervention of the USAF. A brief lesson of history for y'all!!
Its acually true. The kurds are hated by the arabs because they are not "arabisized" The turks hate the Kurds because the Kurds exists unfornanly because of Turkgay are ocupying a large land from the Kurds. The Kurds never give up on their language and culture. It makes all the neighberhood countries mad and they try to ethnic cleanse them out. But they can't as far one kurds is alive.
~75% of what they post is Trump bashing, bong making, song reviews or drone footage.. the remaining ~25% is somewhat newsworthy. They're not what they were 5 years ago.
HBO playin' games. They don't want us informed on what's actually going on around the world. Glad VICE is still around and doing great work in reporting this stuff.
Ki Song that’s something that has been inhibited of the minds of those living in the capitalist system and is the most dangerous and disgusting ideology,
I fought in all of this in 2004, in all these areas of iraq. It's very hard to watch the struggle still so many years later that we were there to end back then
@Sub Zero you are telling a story that is the opposite of reality: Maybe you should give the Kurds their own house. That is called Kurdistan. They are trying to do it by themselves, for example in Rojava. If in my country there was a whole people that wanted indipendence, because they have been mistreated, persecuted, and killed for decades, I'd say "of course. Take it." And I would apologise for my fathers and grandfathers that did that stuff to them
@Sub Zero hey mister historical genius. I think you are the one that needs historical re education. There is plenty of writting evidence that that land is of the kurds. And if you even deny that. Still cant deny the fact that its kurds living there at this day. Secondly, check yourself before you wreck yourself. Iraq is an british invention. Your border are british. You idenity is British. If you wanna go historical here. Your iraq is Arab. Go back to your arabic peninsula then if you wanna talk about going back to your own home ;). You as an iraqi got jackshig to say, surtenly if yoj got your own shit to clean up back in bagdad.
This is an old video, it was right after the September 25, 2017, Kurdistan Region independence referendum, almost 2 years ago and vice trying to pass as if the situation is still 2017
0:09 the map is a little bit imprecise - in Syria they settle the border area with Turkey. They do control area further down as depicted, but that area is settled by Arabs who they're in alliance with.
The Kurds deserve their own independent sovereign state, they've more than shown that they will cooperate with the Iraqi government on certain matters, even fight alongside them, but they have the right to their own State so Kurds could come together from Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey to form their own Country. Long live Kurdistan!!
Finally! I've been watching for Ben Anderson to fill us in on what is truly happening to the Kurds! Thanks Ben Anderson! Keep up the excellent reporting🤗
Thank you Vice for this doc...the Kurds need their voices to be heard AND responded back to in kind with actions to help them. This is why I am still subbed to Vice. Ben Anderson is awesome in this too, I would like to see more of him!
@@vigenlona If you mean David Jendo, Barzani has nothing to do with that since it was YPG who did it and Barzani does not have a good relationship with YPG. So please next time get your facts right, you are just embarrassing yourself.
Intense, sympathetic, uncensored, dark. Another riveting piece from _Vice._ They make you care about events happening in the other side of the planet like few others can.
This was fantastic, well done to the vice team!!! It’s sad however that the Kurds are left alone, even though as an independent country, they could provide valuable stability and military cooperation in the region! The US should be ashamed
The plan would have been to recreate what happened with Israel but this isn't the 1940s. The Iraq Kurds are surrounded by stronger regions willing to invade against their independence. Turkey and Iraq armed with US weapons plus Iran and Syria backed by Russia are much stronger than the Arab coalition against Israel in 1948. Moreover, the US government just can't provide the ground support it once did because sending troops is bad politically and costly. Even if Israel, UK and France send air support; Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt will definitely not help because they aren't too fond of a non-Arab region in the middle east.
too true, and since Iraq is the property of the United States government we can just give their territory to anyone we please. I think we should give Mosul to the Native Americans and Kirkuk to the Palestinians, then everyone will be happy. People like you and I know what's really going on. The Balfour declaration is probably the best template for creating peace and stability in the middle east.
Russian Pineapple wrong. The russians and British were already beating back nazis both in Africa and eatern fronts before U.S.A joined the Europe theatre.
Kurdishstan forever! Humans forced to speak different languages not aloud to speak their native tounge. They are a culture without a country. Why does other countries not support this? Every Kurdish land should be United as a solid middle east country. They have been persecuted beyond what a human can handle, yet they are here with strength.
Well these guys wouldn’t be our enemy if we didn’t abandon them like we did. The Kurds have been our allies for a long time and in our fight against ISIS. Do you honestly believe this act makes the United States a trustworthy ally? Do you? Answer that question for me.
Libertarian wtf does that have to do with anything? We’re talking about the US relationship with the Kurds not Britain. They’ve been the best group out of all the other “moderate” rebel groups in the fight against isis.
Libertarian The US actually tried to broker a peace negotiation between the UK and Argentina when the Argentinians took the Falklands. Margaret Thatcher wanted to go boots on ground and did not back off.
Thunder Emblem not all but the major part. If it wasn’t for kurds bogging down isis in mosul and south of kirkuk, baghdad and karbala would have fallen for sure.
Thunder Emblem lol what? Nice imagination you got there. The Kurds made a deal with soleimani and gave them control. Running away is when you leave your weapons and clothes just like iraqi soldiers did when less 200 isis fighters came with ak-47s. Now soleimani is dead and iraq will follow soon. Should have split into 3 back in 2003. But better late than never.
I’m usually on the other end of the spectrum when it comes to VICE. Here I must say it was refreshingly honest and have a very clear preemptive on the complexities of the Middle East.
This breaks my heart. I've been an outspoken person in regards to my opinions of the Kurdish people these last 10 years, speaking of the struggles they face and there great friendship and honor that they bestowed upon the world, being the greatest ally in the middle east we could have ever asked for. The status quo was a deafening silence from the rest of the world who barely even new they existed, if they do at all. Donald Trump just changed the world. The Russians are now swooping into the gap of power we left in that region. Things are looking great I tell ya.
Actually no the ottomans used a lot force and mass killings let’s not forget the armenian Christians and also kurds,arabs..etc if the ottomans haven’t have done that they would’ve still existed and much bigger than ever before but the turks did it to themselves
In Iraqi Kurdistan, Vice's Ben Anderson met those involved in the fight from the frontline to the Kurd's former guerrilla president to ask why the group recently voted for independence and what hopes they have for achieving a state of their own.
WATCH NEXT: Fighting ISIS - ruclips.net/video/5EUachAFhEA/видео.html
They want to create a communist utopia.
Amazing from vice and ben...👍
If only your big Texan Oil Sociopaths didn't need instability to interrupt the construction of the Gasprom pipeline when Assad said no to the US pipeline from IRAQ, it makes perfect sense your country would turn their backs on the kurds... their hate of russia is far greater at the top end of town.. You know, the religiously weird, white, old, racist fucks that totally hold the most powerful bureaucratic positions the world has ever offered up... Can you do a story on this Truth pls....
ruclips.net/video/FBQN1PKrDws/видео.html
@King Charles ik
P
How is THIS the only video I've ever seen flagged for offensive content?
Seen one other that was hidden as it showed the views of a British Holocaust denier.
It would seem that RUclips is very dedicated in hiding unwanted content. I can understand that the Holocaust denier is hidden, but this VICE video is far from being at the same level.
That's what I'm wondering.
Zachary White the dead baby’s in the video of course . Im sure you saw it!
@@goodidufel7050 there are dead bodies and babies in other videos yet they dont come with the same warning
Glad to see that videos about weed, porn, and prostitution go untouched but this video gets flagged for "offensive content".
That ending quote is rather powerful.
"When a people tell you "I want independence," by what logic is the correct response to go annihilate them? It's an existential battle for survival. They've killed and exiled civilians, tens of thousands of people. That's all not a crime, but a nation saying they want independence, is."
so Turks are saying "come and get it" ? what is wrong with that?
@@Krm3458 They created a conflict that doesn't need to be one. The Turks barely did shit about Isis and the Kurds fought hard for their land and now the Turks think they can just yoink it away from them? That's not right.
Modest Swallow That land doesn’t belong to the Kurds. It is illegal to annex land acquired during times of war under international law. “Kurdistan” is a fantasy.
Modest Swallow
the last thing i remember YPG was crying for US Air forces,fighting hard yeah? :)
@@seanengelsen7267 so the Kurds should be annihilated then?
This reporter is the best one of all vice news
Meanwhile, all the other VICE journalists are worrying about how Joker is an incel movie.
And good looking too
don't forget Simon Ukraine series
Yes, he and Isobel Yeung
Oscar W. Yes, Simon is an amazing reporter and I wish he was still doing dispatches in Ukraine.
This is the vice I'm use to , keep the updates of the war in Syria coming
Pretty sure this about Iraq and the peshmerga
This is Iraq.....
@@ecognitio9605 yeah but xavi Gaona is taking about the war in syria
@@resulavsar2606 it's the same war ...
I'm sure he's heading to Syrian Kurds next
This video should get more views. Hoping for the best for the Kurds.
I hope Kurdistan never becomes a state
@@xx_javier83_xx97 Hahahaa classic turkish interpretation
Thank youu
@@xx_javier83_xx97 qual sua nacionalidade e etnia coroa ?
I don' really understand how this video is flagged as offensive
Megan Dewar me too
for turks haha
by Turkish officials
it's offensive because it's leftist propaganda
@Cabin In the Woods guns are visible in various other videos and documentaries also.
I know many Kurdish folks and they are very humble and hard working people. I wish them the best in their fight for freedom and independence. Keep it up VICE this is the reporting we need daily!
I am big fan of kurd they are bravely fought with ISIS and we world left them alone,
What were you expecting kurds were supported to fight isis not to give them independence
You know the usa supported the kurds that are in a group called the YPG, that group is directly linked with a terrorist organisation recognized by usa,turkey and eu. It automatically makes the YPG terrorists, you are literally supporting a terrorist organisation, not the kurds, if you want to aupport the kurds, support peshmerga not kurds that do terrorist acts, the pkk/ypg killed over 40 000 turkish citizens, I’m guessing you are indian and thay you are just trying to support those who are fighting for a nation but you have to understand that it’s not because the usa supports them that they are innocent and need to be supported, there is around 18M kurds in turkey, do you really think that turks would kill kurds ? They’ve lived with us for centuries we are just trying to keep our country safe
@abdiqani nor not really.
@@lalalalalala8751 You listen to Trump often?
@אביהו What about groups like the PFLP?
If one nationality deserves it own country it's the Kurds.
The whole World owes them it..........
Iraq.Sometimes Sunni Sometimes Shiite free Kurdistan, Free Palestine, Free Kashmir, Free Rokhine, Free Turkistan
saad syed and Free Balochistan
Gaddafi wanted Kurdistan to happen. He knew Kurds wouldn't be Safe without their own State.
You are a symbol of humanity to tell the truth no matter what thank you so much god bless iraq and its ppl too
I agree with that, the Kurdish people are very good proud people who do not want war and have been oppressed for too long. They only fight so they can eventually have a peaceful life. They are not extremist and they treat women as an equal. I hope some day soon they will their own country and you are right the Whole World does owe them this.
Ben Anderson is a legend.
I love milf
lol
Dad Anderson is the best no Homo
Yeah, legend in supporting terrorists and showing them as angels.
Check out his Interview on Joe Rogan it was a great one. Really get a look into his mind on how he deals with seeing all this war all the time.
Thank you vice news for Making videos like This. AS kurds we appreciate The support of american people And media And european people!
Saman - The American people are sorry for Trump abandoning you. It's wrong to shit on friends and allies that fought for us. We wanted to stay and help the Kurds establish their own country, and our elected politicians also wanted to do this. Trump should not have had the authority to pull our US forces out of Syria. Our politicians in Washington and our US military are also pissed at Trump for doing this and betraying our friends. The Kurds are the heroes of the world, because you people are the ones that defeated Isis. You deserve to have your own country and govern yourselves.
Captain America can’t congress do anything? Or is it all in The hands of that orange guy?
Saman Hasani if trump was starting a war then congress could do something to stop it but since he’s just pulling our troops out they have no power over that decision since the president is the commander in chief of the armed forces. Personally I think it’s bullshit that is too much power in the hands of one person. Trump is ignoring his generals, his soldiers, the American people, politicians from both parties, etc... who are all telling him this is a terrible idea. Americans are tired of the endless war in the Middle East and we want to leave but bailing on our allies like that isn’t ok
Shame on you .. What america done with whole middle east ..open eyes stupid mate...
slaw bra inshallah Kurdistanik new boman det
"We placed a lot of hope in America and it didn't pan out" - this is echoed by the rest of the world. The America we knew is long gone.
yep you'll have to fight the Nazis & Commies all alone now. America's going back to their soap operas & football games.
What is the UK and the rest of Europe doing about this? This is not America's problem. We have been there long enough, almost 8 trillion spent in this endless war, time we pull out. That is not our problem. Enough being the world police, it is time for the UK and the rest of Europe to step up and do something about this.
@@brantley2171 If you want to be a world power, you have to act as a world power.
Europe isnt a world power. The US is. Right now the US has shown the world that it doesnt care about its allies. Trust me, the way this has played out scares countries like Israel and Saudi Arabia a lot. They need the US.
Anyway, just now the US gave away its power in Syria because Trump wants to win the election. And what do we see? Russia steps in. The US just gave a big part of their power away. And what that all means is even worse: the american allies do not trust the US anymore. Trust me, Israel and the Saudi's are not happy at all.
Again: if you want to be a world power. You have to act with arrogance and power and the willingness to force your way on countries. The US did exactly that for the last 80 years. Now its foreign politics is falling apart. So yea, it is America's problem. If the US politics wont change and keeps pulling back from the world stage, it leaves behind a gap for someone else.....
Russia? China? Europa?
Who knows. Even the great Roman Empire didnt live forever.
@@brantley2171 boy.... you don't understand geopolitics, western Europe is lucky to fight their way out of a wet paper bag
@@brantley2171 if the US doesn't want the child he shouldn't have impregnated the problem in the first place. Clean your own shit and stop acting like it's not your fault because it is.
good to see Ben Anderson back with his reporting. I hope there's a longer full feature coming out soon.
This video was from late 2017, Anderson is still prob on hiatus
@@TheAwp45 how is this video from 2017?
@@PrismFoxes The video implies that it took place right after the Battle of Prde, which happened late October 2017. If the video merely referenced that battle but in 2019, it would have at least talked about developments since late 2017 (when the Iraqis took Kirkuk after the Kurdish independence referendum), but it did not.
My guess is that Vice was being lazy about the new war between Turkey and the Syrian Kurds and said "hey let's release a previously unreleased video from 2017" to hide the fact they haven't been doing much war reporting lately.
@@TheAwp45 dam I really thought it was a current video from this year! Thanks for pointing that out
9:52 « there are 22 other Arab countries why not a Kurdish »
@Ur Boi Ali that's not true at all! What about the the oil fields of Erbil and Slêmanî ? You don't know anything about kurds and the government doesn't know what's good for us all the care about is the money and you guys support it
@Ur Boi Ali what in the world are you talking about !?!? What about all those peshmergas who sacrificed their lifes for kirkuk and the east side of mosul??
@Ur Boi Ali we are not denying the support from Iraq we guys love you and and we have mad respect for you guys but we are not asking for other nations lands we just want our lands back and history proves it
@Ur Boi Ali prove it...how do know it's "fake"? What do you guys even know about us rather than saying "in your dreams"
@Ur Boi Ali go and get educated
What a brave nation, long live Kurds and Peshmerga who helped a lot to destroy ISIS!
Ben Anderson is the greatest reporter, hope to see more content like this, because that is why I subscribed to VICE in the first place
Surprised to see Ben back. Hope he's alright.
Good to see some honest reporting though.
@Jeff Yeh yeah but he and Gianni Tobani were the only two reporters I could trust.
Vice is great, but they don't cover the news like they used to.
Ben had done SO much war corresponding that he actually had to step away, it was getting to him. Check Joe Rogan. ruclips.net/video/KOilZ69NwIc/видео.html
I love that the general offered his hand to help the reporter up ❤️ 12:34
that is Babakir Zebari
That's a shame what's happening to those people. And their so called allies abandoning them. Wow with allies like those who needs enemies
The kurds are advocating for a communist utopia.
@Craft9841 last time I checked, a system of government based on commune tactics, no currency, and government housing for all Kurds is more aligned with communism than it is democracy.
zak ortega You have no idea, AT ALL, what you are talking about. Communism and democracy are in no way correlated. The Kurds have consistently pushed for democracy, even attempting to establish a non-religious democratic state in the Middle East.
Well, a decade or two down the road, they will probably be enemies. If you look at the various groups who are big US enemies today, they were usually allies that the US stabbed in the back not that long ago.
@@wilson1799 Sadly, that is probably what doomed them. The US HATES democracy since it comes with the risk of people deciding to not do what the US wants them to do,.. dictators and autocrats are much easier to work with.
The old Vice is back!
pranknetwork35 this is old lol
Feels goos
@Skrooge Lantay they always say shit like this when they see a video they like, when something doesn't align with their world views it gets funny :D
edcv No, it’s not. It is from this week.
As an American I am completely ashamed of how we left the Kurds. They bravely fought isis and was more effective than any other army in that region, and to turn our backs on the only people that kept the terrorism at bay is simply idiotic. I hope a new US president will realize this and mend relationships with the Kurds as soon as possible, before isis has time to rebuild and come back stronger. May god be with you people of Kurdistan.
did they pull out during trump's presidency?
The US has destroyed many countries in attempt to build “ nation”.
"Human Rights" died in this region centuries ago
My question is: why give Putin such an obvious political bonus - he gets to look like a peace keeper and makes a new ally with minimal investment?! 🤔
Well said... They'll try n cover up that angle as if letting Putin run riot in Syria wasn't enough the new superpower of the middle east is born.. Watch out Israel
@leicanoct a lot of weapons where captured from Egypt Syria Lebanon etc during the Yom Kippur and the 6 day war and sold abroad
Because he invested in Trump. 😂
Im glad we pulled our troops out of that hell hole, the one question I have is how does 50 US soldiers make a difference in that shit hole? Democrats what happen to being the anti war party? that's right you're political preference is all you care about..
America has played very well here ! All the blame and backlash for the Middle East conflicts was directly at America ! So they slowly and slowly have replaced themselves by Russians . And Russians have fallen into the trap Russian economy is not at all capable of supporting it to be the world super power Russia will fall so badly just wait and watch .
*I'm Kurdish*
why kurdish dont have a country but have races ?? why your king so stupid in the ancient long time ago ??
hanafiy fei
Bro we had our own countries but they weren't recognized by western or Russia or USA. Like Kurdistan kingdom, Republic of Kurdistan, Republic of Ararat, Red Kurdistan.... etc
Ok I guess where naming where we come from. Then by that I am Albanian
Long live Kurdistan ❤️
Daykyan agaen Arabu Turk
Biji kurdistan
I had to pause halfway through, absolutely brutal. Write to you local representatives and tell them why betraying our allies will not only kill innocence but will perpetuate violence in the region. Heart breaking.
It was Washington DC that gave Saddam that gas that was used on them man, the American people need to wake up.
I love it when Vice makes content like this
I wrote a paper about the Kurdish language and learnt so much about them as a people.
I’ll always stand with the Kurds after visiting Erbil in 2014, there’s good people there, I don’t know why the west doesn’t support them more they have a beautiful culture and they’re a very moderate people I’d gladly visit erbil again
#FreeKurdistan
#LongLiveKurdistan
Sadly, US foreign policy highly favors autocrats. Being moderate and democratic is a major strike against the Kurds, and it was only a matter of time till the US pushed someone to overthrow them anyway.
I'm happy to see that the comment section is filled with interesting and well said opinions, for once !
Nice.
Blas Nobody hates the Kurds. But when things go bad, nobody thinks about them either.
@@NotShowingOff lots of people hate kurds
@@aqebrax ...bro even we a far away from your country...we know something about history....change your name @Baised mesopotamian
@@amigolatheeng9904 what r u talkin abt
@@aqebrax I have soft corner for Kurds...they deserve separate land.
peshmerger are the best Iraq would still be full of isis if not for these brave warriors ....give them there freedom
thanks buddy im from Kurdistan and i have a lot of respect for you and your family
The Kurds will survive one way or another.The U.S needs to make there situation better, because the Kurds are who the U.S government runs to when shit hits the fan in Iraq.BTW I in the live U.S one hr from the White House..
Exactly
Nope. The Peshmerga ran away in front of ISIS in 2014, just like the iraqi army. That's how the Yazidis got left behind to their fate. That's how ISIS took the Mosul Dam.
The only thing that prevented a total collapse of iraqi kurdistan was Masoud Barzani telling U.S. Central Command Iraqi Kurdistan was going to fall. As a result Obama was pulled out of date with his wife at a DC restaurant in order to be breifed on the catastrophe and ordered the immediate intervention of the USAF.
A brief lesson of history for y'all!!
extremely radical blue popsicle
I bet if you were there they wouldn’t have run away .!!!!!!
Thanks, this Kurdish voice was missed in the media.
@YB M he's from the Netherlands... what are you talking about...
It’s the Kurds vs. the entire Middle East.
Lol Kurds are backed by entire BAE, Saudi Arabia and Europe.
@@nabub2362 clueless stfu sheep y p u haven't got a clue I'm sure Saudi or any country in Europe or even in the middle East. Ok troll
@@nabub2362 snowflake kid
Its acually true. The kurds are hated by the arabs because they are not "arabisized" The turks hate the Kurds because the Kurds exists unfornanly because of Turkgay are ocupying a large land from the Kurds. The Kurds never give up on their language and culture. It makes all the neighberhood countries mad and they try to ethnic cleanse them out. But they can't as far one kurds is alive.
@@nabub2362 the Saudis back Arab rebels, not Kurds. It literally talks about how the Arabs are in conflict with the Kurds in the video.
I can’t believe HBO dropped Vice News
~75% of what they post is Trump bashing, bong making, song reviews or drone footage.. the remaining ~25% is somewhat newsworthy. They're not what they were 5 years ago.
I can't believe they lasted this long.
HBO playin' games. They don't want us informed on what's actually going on around the world. Glad VICE is still around and doing great work in reporting this stuff.
So wt youtube better idont even touch a tv anymore much less hbo😂😂🤣🤣🙃🙃😁🤘
they became really bad and one sided. this is the fist video iv seen that is worth watching
Wow. What incredible depth, Vice consistently has amazing documentaries, but this one went above and beyond. Really incredible interviews.
Long live Kurd and Kurdistan ❤️☀️💚
Biji kurdistan
Kurdistan forever
This should be trending
Don't understand why youtube put a viewer discretion warning on this. Everyone needs to watch this.
Cause US doesn't want you to know the whole truth on it.
Football Always / كورة دائمًا YPG are KURDISH freedom fighters who defeated ISIS, whilst Turks supported ISIS
Finally back to great reporting. Vice please more of this.
This is the kind of content I expect from Vice. Top-notch stuff.
If anyone deserves a state, it’s the Kurds.
Says u
I disagree. They are Marxist communists. They are fundamentally not compatible with Western values.
@@kisong1960 preach
Ki Song that’s something that has been inhibited of the minds of those living in the capitalist system and is the most dangerous and disgusting ideology,
Ki Song that’s the mindset of a dictator of hitler, how dare u
I fought in all of this in 2004, in all these areas of iraq. It's very hard to watch the struggle still so many years later that we were there to end back then
Vice why dont you post about Rojava and not KRG
cause the stuff are hapening over there
Can you elaborate? Do you have any links? Thank you.
@Sub Zero Despicable human being
@Sub Zero you are telling a story that is the opposite of reality:
Maybe you should give the Kurds their own house. That is called Kurdistan.
They are trying to do it by themselves, for example in Rojava.
If in my country there was a whole people that wanted indipendence, because they have been mistreated, persecuted, and killed for decades, I'd say "of course. Take it."
And I would apologise for my fathers and grandfathers that did that stuff to them
@Sub Zero that's exactly the point. There is no Kurdistan. At least there isn't a Kurdish state.
But there should be.
@Sub Zero hey mister historical genius. I think you are the one that needs historical re education. There is plenty of writting evidence that that land is of the kurds. And if you even deny that. Still cant deny the fact that its kurds living there at this day. Secondly, check yourself before you wreck yourself. Iraq is an british invention. Your border are british. You idenity is British. If you wanna go historical here. Your iraq is Arab. Go back to your arabic peninsula then if you wanna talk about going back to your own home ;). You as an iraqi got jackshig to say, surtenly if yoj got your own shit to clean up back in bagdad.
Free kurdistan for kurds!! Big hugs from Portugal.
This is an old video, it was right after the September 25, 2017, Kurdistan Region independence referendum, almost 2 years ago and vice
trying to pass as if the situation is still 2017
The documentary is about the anniversary of that historical event for the Kurdish People.
0:09 the map is a little bit imprecise - in Syria they settle the border area with Turkey. They do control area further down as depicted, but that area is settled by Arabs who they're in alliance with.
True. Arabs represented the majority in northern Syria 6 to 1 kurd.
So good to see Vice news back doing what it is great at. Isobelle and Ben are fantastic.
The Kurds deserve their own independent sovereign state, they've more than shown that they will cooperate with the Iraqi government on certain matters, even fight alongside them, but they have the right to their own State so Kurds could come together from Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey to form their own Country.
Long live Kurdistan!!
Finally! I've been watching for Ben Anderson to fill us in on what is truly happening to the Kurds! Thanks Ben Anderson! Keep up the excellent reporting🤗
Kurds 🇭🇺❤
Thank you Vice for this doc...the Kurds need their voices to be heard AND responded back to in kind with actions to help them. This is why I am still subbed to Vice. Ben Anderson is awesome in this too, I would like to see more of him!
Great to see Ben back,great stuff highlighting the Kurds plight 👍
honesty, first time in a long time. iv seen video i wanted to watch from vice
Same here.
brilliant reporting! Thanks, Vice.
Excellent reporting from Ben Anderson. More like this, Vice
The ending of this video... deserves an oscar. Starting from 13:59
I completely agree. It definitely makes one feel the dark picture as it is being painted
My Leader ♥️ Masoud Barzani ♥️
The barzani family is responsible for killing assyrian leaders in north iraq. Murderer!
@@vigenlona If you mean David Jendo, Barzani has nothing to do with that since it was YPG who did it and Barzani does not have a good relationship with YPG. So please next time get your facts right, you are just embarrassing yourself.
Intense, sympathetic, uncensored, dark.
Another riveting piece from _Vice._ They make you care about events happening in the other side of the planet like few others can.
omg took you long enough this is quality content I can be happy i’m subscribed to you for keep up THIS good work vice
This was fantastic, well done to the vice team!!! It’s sad however that the Kurds are left alone, even though as an independent country, they could provide valuable stability and military cooperation in the region! The US should be ashamed
the US is still in Kurdish Iraq are they? just wait until next administration
The plan would have been to recreate what happened with Israel but this isn't the 1940s. The Iraq Kurds are surrounded by stronger regions willing to invade against their independence. Turkey and Iraq armed with US weapons plus Iran and Syria backed by Russia are much stronger than the Arab coalition against Israel in 1948. Moreover, the US government just can't provide the ground support it once did because sending troops is bad politically and costly. Even if Israel, UK and France send air support; Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt will definitely not help because they aren't too fond of a non-Arab region in the middle east.
Its pathetic that you think the USA provides stability to any region.
Perry Caulkins read my comment, the Kurds would provide stability as an independent state bud
too true, and since Iraq is the property of the United States government we can just give their territory to anyone we please. I think we should give Mosul to the Native Americans and Kirkuk to the Palestinians, then everyone will be happy. People like you and I know what's really going on. The Balfour declaration is probably the best template for creating peace and stability in the middle east.
Long live Kurdistan!
Where is Kurdistan?
Fantastic report Ben. You're a living legend.
Amazing job Ben. Keep up the great reporting.
I hope they attain independence ✨ Wishing them luck from America
Yesterday, it was Saddam Hussein
Today, it was Kurds
Tomorrow, well....who knows ??
Don't be an ally of uncle Sam
If it wasn't for Uncle Sam the allies wouldn't have won WW1 or WW2 and we would all most likely under a corrupt, evil, violent government
Russian Pineapple wrong. The russians and British were already beating back nazis both in Africa and eatern fronts before U.S.A joined the Europe theatre.
Wow Excellent Short Docu !!!!!
This is good Vice!
Kurdishstan forever! Humans forced to speak different languages not aloud to speak their native tounge. They are a culture without a country. Why does other countries not support this? Every Kurdish land should be United as a solid middle east country. They have been persecuted beyond what a human can handle, yet they are here with strength.
Solidarity to the Kurdish people. 🇺🇲🇦🇲
WOW, this is the VICE i know. Good information.
Thank you Vice.
When are Americans going to stop training people that aren’t Americans cuz it always seems to become the next upcoming enemy
Well these guys wouldn’t be our enemy if we didn’t abandon them like we did. The Kurds have been our allies for a long time and in our fight against ISIS. Do you honestly believe this act makes the United States a trustworthy ally? Do you? Answer that question for me.
They are unreliable allies, did they help the Britain during Suez? Or the a Falklands?
Libertarian wtf does that have to do with anything? We’re talking about the US relationship with the Kurds not Britain. They’ve been the best group out of all the other “moderate” rebel groups in the fight against isis.
Libertarian The US actually tried to broker a peace negotiation between the UK and Argentina when the Argentinians took the Falklands. Margaret Thatcher wanted to go boots on ground and did not back off.
@@I-am-not-a-number the US put on standby equipment for the UK if they were needed.
Those are good people and they deserve their own state
Fishing台 no
Like the Catalonians and Crimeans?
Finally a video about Syria! I was waiting for that for years! You need to do those every month
This isn’t about Syria, it’s about Kurds and what Iraq has done to them
Happy to see Ben back .
11:47 no wonder these guys beat isis! They use fire log to light up their cigarettes 🚬
they didn't beat ISIS it was a join offence
afgzee focus on the cigaret idiot
afgzee it wasn’t. Iraqis ran from isis. They only came back when kurds were already defeating them.
Thunder Emblem not all but the major part. If it wasn’t for kurds bogging down isis in mosul and south of kirkuk, baghdad and karbala would have fallen for sure.
Thunder Emblem lol what? Nice imagination you got there. The Kurds made a deal with soleimani and gave them control. Running away is when you leave your weapons and clothes just like iraqi soldiers did when less 200 isis fighters came with ak-47s. Now soleimani is dead and iraq will follow soon. Should have split into 3 back in 2003. But better late than never.
Vice at it's best. Thank you.
I’m usually on the other end of the spectrum when it comes to VICE. Here I must say it was refreshingly honest and have a very clear preemptive on the complexities of the Middle East.
Bro thank you so much for the report I'm from Kurdistan I really thank you
This is why I'm still subscribed to Vice. Great reporting, thanks.
This breaks my heart. I've been an outspoken person in regards to my opinions of the Kurdish people these last 10 years, speaking of the struggles they face and there great friendship and honor that they bestowed upon the world, being the greatest ally in the middle east we could have ever asked for. The status quo was a deafening silence from the rest of the world who barely even new they existed, if they do at all.
Donald Trump just changed the world. The Russians are now swooping into the gap of power we left in that region.
Things are looking great I tell ya.
By looking great...how do you mean? -Semper Fi
More like this please!👌
I was waiting for this 🧐😍
How many problems could have been avoided if the Ottoman Empire wasn’t carved out by France and Britain after World War I
You can apply this to so many different regions of the world that was carved up by Europe. Africa, the Levant, partition of India, etc.
Was going to crumble anyway
Actually no the ottomans used a lot force and mass killings let’s not forget the armenian Christians and also kurds,arabs..etc if the ottomans haven’t have done that they would’ve still existed and much bigger than ever before but the turks did it to themselves
Aza Mayi That's bullshit. You don't know Ottoman history, you're just guessing.
@BLUE DOG lol whut? dude that is not a proof. just google what the definition of proof is
Excellent video the guy at the end was very inspiring
Best news all time!!! I love vice news actual news
Thank you Ben Anderson for this reporting. Thank you thank you thank you.
Don't lose hope, humanity!
Use them then abandon them. That's been the policy of USA the last 100 years. Nothing new.
Sion Marak they got it of the British you nei lose a war abd all way got someone to blame
I love the reporter and the us guy helping kurd
Really great reporter. realy appreciate your work, Congratulations.
“Few attempted genocide since the holocaust”
The Bosniaks, Rwandans, Somalians, Uighurs,
And that is justice in this world we live in. President Masoud Barzani
So good to see Ben Anderson
Everything if fine until youtube asks for confirmation twice
Bjet Kurd o Kurdistan 🖤
Free Kurdistan
The peshmargas say no one is on our side just god and the mountains
Perdhmergas hate islam. They are the worst kind
@@makavelithedon2151 stop lying man, we live in 2021
@11:46 - thats dope!
Ben Anderson is a Global Treasure!! Platinum standard reporting man!!
I have to say vice news is still very young..