Planet of the Apes: Science Fiction of Social Fears
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- War for the Planet of the Apes, releasing everywhere July 14, is another example of the franchise using the parable of apes ruling over humans to convey deep fears and challenges of the society of its times, each time creating a new, innovative story supplemented by cutting edge visuals.
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The last trilogy is one of the best trilogies ever, and definitely did the impossible of getting better over time. Its astoundingly good. This was a great analysis of the movies, and how layered and thought provoking they are intended to be.
As always.
The reboot trilogy has become HEAVILY close to home, it's pretty insane.
Only thing is...while there IS a worldwide disease issue, animals like apes aren't becoming more intelligent.
Though, to be honest; I'd side with Cesar in a heartbeat
"Caesar weak." "Koba weaker." A great insert to include. It displays that moderate vs extremist divide well. Keep up the good work ladies!
It says so much with only four words.
Watching this while also watching news of the Coronavirus.
And how in the past days, monkeys stole some Covid-19 blood samples. Eerie. Haha
I'm watching this in 2019 and I'm surprised a global outbreak hasn't happened yet, I know there was that SARS thing and that ebola scare but we've been lucky to avoid a unstoppable extinction level pandemic.
The Planet of the Apes movies have always done an solid job (for the most part) at presenting the social fears of their time. In the older films some of the use of apes was highly problematic, but I think with the reboots that was fixed. "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" in my opinion was a great way to show the divide between moderates and extremists in any revolution. As many people seem to forget moderates exist, it was important to show how complex it could be.
Great video by the way, incredible as always.
The Ceaser and Koba rivalry really reminds me of Rick and Shane’s rivalry. Ceaser and Rick fight for a moral bright future filled with love and family, while Shane and Koba fight for themselves and dominance over others and use violence as a first choice. It just shows how great of a tv show the Walking Dead is and how great of a movie franchise Planet of the Apes is.
This Video realy ages well ( watching this during the pandemic )
I just saw War last night, loved it!
Nice! You in NYC or LA?
ScreenPrism nope. I'm from the Philippines. It opened in our country yesterday.
Ah, very cool. Is Tuesday the regular release day there in the Philippines?
ScreenPrism no. We're actually on different time zones, so by yesterday, I meant Wednesday July 12. And yeah, we get new movies every wed. or thurs. Not all cool movies though. We're getting Baby Driver on Aug. 2. It sucks.
Tears in my eyes! As someone who sat through the all of the originals and loved them (I don't usually watch old movies), I can tell that everything you said is true. This series is an EPIC far greater than it's often given credit for. People rave so much about lesser series like GOT, but nothing comes close to POTA in expressing every single bit of human history in a raw and beautiful portrayal of non-human species and role-reversal. Anyone who refuses to watch this series with reasons like "oh they're old movies" or "i don't like seeing apes and monkeys talking like humans" is seriously missing out on the MASSIVELY bigger picture that the Planet of the Apes series paints.
the relevance of these modern remakes becomes stronger year by year, particularly of course in our fear of disease
Some other Easter eggs i found on the reboot trilogy (which i think of them as prequels to the original, before Cornelius and Zira changed the time-line)
Were The guy who spoke the "Danm dirty ape" line also at some point scares the apes in theirs cages and screams "It's a Madhouse, a Madhouse" like Taylor did in the original.
Also the fact that Ceasar's first word was "No" like Cornelius explained in Escape, but in his past was Aldo who said it.
Bad Ape was the first Ape that actually wore clothes and spoke rather than sign that wasn't part of Ceasar's colony.
Icarus which was Taylor's space ship, it's launch during the movie.
I loved the old saga as a kid and have loved the new trilogy as they've come out.
Conquest and Rise are my favorite of the films. I just adore Ceaser as a character and both incarnations are marvelous.
I'm new to this channel and I subscribed because scrolling through the comments section I noticed that you respond to as many comments as you can. I really respect RUclips channels that go out of the way to respond to comments especially if they have a large following like yourselves. It shows just how humble you are.
Keep up the good work
Also, these are some of the most peaceful and conscientious of the comment sections.
This hits different post 2020
Thank You for being honest about the racial aspect to the films. Black people have known this for years but we have yet to see someone white clearly address the obvious.
anyone can relate to it, its about opression, i dont think anyone outside america or south africa thought about black people when watching this; I sure didn't; id rather think about how my nation was oppressed by germans, or how jews were treated in ghettos;I'd think about ever ongoing kurdish resistance to turk rule, and the times of civil war between chang kai shek and communist party in china; id think about gender or lgbt issues; about class struggle between proletariat and burguise, between peasant and aristocrat
and how, after the times of revolution when power switches hands, the oppressors become oppressed and their former slaves become their master not less cruel or forgiving
Really? I saw the original when I was a kid and it seemed pretty obvious to me
@@wilhelmu ...what?
NathanRomml so let me get this straight. You’re completely dismissing the blatantly obvious racial elements in the PoTA series (which by the way was admitted by the produces of the first film) and shoe horning in a load of circular babble which you clearly had to dig deep in to the depths of utter stupidity to find. All in order to interject totally irrelevant nonsense and basically “all lives matter” the original post. That’s one hell of an imagination you’ve got there.
To be honest, I think the new trilogy is better than the old series and the reason why can be explained with one example; the origin story.
According to most fans; in the old series, humans died out in a big nuclear war and Apes (somehow) became the dominant sentient species on the planet. This offers zero explanation as to HOW that rise to dominance even happened.
Whereas with the movie Rise, it gives us a clear idea of how things went down. It was all because humanity violated sci-fi's number one rule; "perhaps, there are some things that man wasn't meant to tamper with." While the virus Gen-Sys Laboratories was originally meant to help people, Jacobs stupidity and desperation to make a quick billion put several people at risk.
At the same time, they messed up by exposing the virus into primates; which started to mutate in THEM in a more positive way. Whereas any human that's exposed to it either gets sick real quickly or in the case of Malcolm's father, they later die from it. It was humanity's greed, hubris, stupidity and the abuse they inflicted upon innocent primates that led to humanity dying out ever so slowly (with the possible exception of Little Nova.)
That right there is a more believable and logical explanation for the ape-ruled society than what the old films gave us. But whether it was the result of a nuclear war or a genetically created virus; either way...like Charlton Heston said, we blew it up
This is one of the strongest film analyses ive ever seen. Keep it up
Damn that pandemic Plot aged well
One of my favorite channels on RUclips! Absolutely amazing! Learning not just movies but the whole aspect and meaning of it, and that's what I like about this channel. Getting the understanding of a film not by just watching it but recognizing and finding the hidden meaning beneath a cinema. Thanks ScreenPrism!
Thanks James! That's our mission/purpose, and why we have so much fun learning ourselves. Hang around hopefully because lots more stuff coming this summer.
You missed one, or two, depending on how you look at it. The character "Dodge Landon" is a reference to the other two astronauts who were with Taylor in the original film, which those were their last names(Dodge, and Landon). They didn't fair well during the initial encounter with the Apes. Landon was killed and stuffed(placed in the museum Taylor runs through upon escaping), and Dodge was the one with the horse-shoe scar indicating his frontal lobes(personality) had been removed/disconnected. That's actually a really subtle, but dark part of the first movie. No doubt Dr. Zaius heard about the "talking human" and probably performed the surgery himself, then told everyone who had seen it to either keep it quiet or die from blasphemy.
That "Dodge Landon" was cruel to the apes in the sanctuary is a reflection of how those two characters were treated in the originals.
I think Rob Serling would be proud of his film and television legacy
As for Easter eggs ceasars first word is “NO!” Which in the originals with escape, zira is telling a story on how Aldo is the first to speak and he says “No” however that was changed with the character Aldo in Battle because apes were already talking in conquest
Enzo 1965 I don’t understand what you’re saying. Lisa was in conquest and battle, escape was before that, zira was telling the story (which was ape history) of Aldo saying “NO!”
These movies always kinda reminded me of the Emu War in Australia. Idk why, maybe bc it’s animals v humans and humans lost both times
Absolutely love this channel, and this video is yet another terrific analysis. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Nathan!
Honestly what she says right here blows me away!
I always thought racism was just blinded ignorance. Could never understood a motive. But I finally get it. 4:48
No need for more Sequel, the First Trilogy is Perfect.
You guys are doing a brilliant job! Keep it up, guys!
Thanks a ton Akhil for the invigorating support. Really does make us want to keep going and work harder! Cheers.
@The Take
Thank you for the salient points mentioned here...👍🏼
Now I *HAVE* to go back and rewatch the modern iterations and maybe the older ones if possible too...
Thanks again...👍🏼
Wow, they really created a universal story here. It's stories like this one that deserve to be remade again and again.
told again, not remade. Remaking it is going to create two of it,who's differences will cause conflict that will corrupt the tale that will be never given the same praise.
This just reminded me of how great of a character Caeser is?
Got strong concentration camp vibes from the most recent film, when harrelson walks out to observe the camp and the camera is behind him, it is reminiscent of the nazi general guy doing the same thing in Schindler's list.
2:51 (As a fan of Archer) I immediately thought of Krieger
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Another fantastic analysis. You are without a doubt the finest channel on RUclips.
Another phenomenal video. Such great content on this channel since I've subbed. Keep it up!
Do you really need a spoiler alert for a 50 year old movie with one of the most iconic endings of all time? Nobody tell these guys who Darth Vader really is.
Please Disney don’t ruin this franchise.
This is to show you to take a look at what everyone is doing to each other now and in history it self by showing with the movies to see it in a different way from movies and in real life what people do to each other and in wars
Ok.... who stole my coffee
Favorite movie series
As much hate as the Burton version has received, without it making a mark on the box office, most likely the reboot would not have happened.
I miss the time when The Take (ScreenPrism) didn't just make Trope videos.
The movies were made to change us and the world in how we think of what we are doing to in the world
Love your guys' work, so thoughtful and high quality. Thank you and keep it up!
2021: "We DID do this to ourselves."
very interesting! I especially liked the historical context, thank you
I love this franchise, so my only problem that I found with the trilogy is that it’s a bit whitewashed, where the only poc are side characters in Rise (as I remember)
Good that you point out the problem that maybe more obvious!
Keep doing what you do, because it’s great!
Personally, I am a BIG FAN of the "Planet of the Apes" movie franchise from 1968 to 1973 as well as the live-action TV series from 1974 as well. While I have learned so much from this video by the people behind The Take by ScreenPrism, I still believe that people have a lot to learn in terms of the very relevant issues for the next generation. As for the "Apes" movie reboots, I would admit that I have a hard time dealing with them because of the newly conceived plots and the production values as well. I also admit that the "Apes" movies from 1968 to 1973 were not entirely perfect in terms of the plots and production values, too, but I remained at least entertained by them anyway.
Do we not remember planet of the apes (2001)?
Amazing video. Awesome editing.
Really good video...and I don't comment often so this tells you how good a video this is!
On what basis do you constitute whether something "human" or "inhuman"? The behavior exhibited by Tom Felton's character is observed among actual humans living in the actual world. Why is that "inhuman"?
this damn dirty video is really damn good. Congratulations YOU MANIACS!!!!
Dodge Landon - Dodge and Landon were Taylor's other surviving crew members
AMAZING ALL THE THINGS YOU DO
Great video, big fan of your work in general. Really like this channel, BUT at 9:36 "The Stuff" is mislabeled "The Suff". I for one can't get enough of The Stuff so I figured I'd point it out. Keep up the great analyses!
Good catch!! Bah, bad miss on our part! Thank you though for calling it out -- helps us in long run for sure :)
Highly edited videos take a lot of work and its totally understandable to miss such a quick snippet. You guys make consistently well produced, highly informative videos and a mere typo is no blemish on that.
now i really want to see this
I actually disagree that the film suggests that we destoryed ourselves because we used technology or in this case strived to cure alzheimers. I believe it shows what happens when we do not follow our responsibilities and proceed recklessly. Since they accelerated research into the drug without taking proper precautions and this was allowed for selfish reasons. Williams released how he was being selfish only after his father died and Malcolm was in it for the profits. Much like today where this current virus came from. Dispite many instances in the past we continued to be reckless by allowing wetmarkets to be a thing still and many allowed them to stay due to selfish reasons like profits or maintaining political positions. This is what causes tragedies
Part of the blame falls on Jacobs, of course; thinking more about the money instead of safer production
This Channel is AMAZING!!!
Do we really need a spoiler warning for a film that came out in 1968?
Nolan BArth not everyone saw it....even thou its final scene is as iconic as the "I'm your father" scene from Star Wars
YES! Because it's a Timeless Classic.
Remember when, on VHS, both the front *_and_* back of the box-cover had spoiled the movie's ending? For anybody who hadn't seen the movie yet, the twist was ruined for them just by looking at the video-box alone. XD
Yes, cause people are snowflakes.
@@eprahs1 How the fuck are they snowflakes if they just don't want to be spoiled from a movie they haven't seen yet.
Woody Harrelson's character in War, is the same name as the narrator in this video, McCullough. Coincidence or something even deeper going on?
Yes, it is a coincidence... isn't it?
They also show the greed and dangerous practice of corporate.
Love your videos !!
A day may come in USA when the Americans of European origin are subjugated and people they ruled are the rulers. So this prediction may not be far fetched. Actually history is full of such examples. The positions are turned. If the present day rulers are callous and adopt harmful policies a civilization can end.
I always interpreted Caesar shedding a tear, as something different.
When the current lawgiver is speaking to integrated ape/human spectators, this does not necessarily change the course of the future. That particular lawgiver is speaking around 85 years before another lawgiver will come along and write the religious doctrines called “the sacred scrolls.” Regardless of what we see depicted, a child and an ape child both get into a small physical exchange before the pan over to Caesar’s statue. The future is still up in the air, as the course of action taken by one will not always alter the course of action of others. If the lawgiver in 85 years time writes the sacred scrolls, the outcome of the entire franchise may very well be the same, and there’s nothing Caesar can currently do to change that. Also, notice that gorillas are not present at the sermon. Where are they? This shows that there will always be other forces at work, and the state of anything can be fragile. The gorillas are not there to hear the sermon, meaning they did not want to integrate and as long as they exist in the world, there will always be military might that stands against Caesar’s ideals of peace. I think Caesar cries, because the future is out of his control. And there’s nothing he can do to change what could be an inevitable outcome.
It would also make sense that the world to Planet of the Apes is stuck in a time loop. Perhaps time isn’t a street with many lanes, but a street with one lane that we perceive to be altered by choice. What if they will always choose destruction?
That’s what I got from it. Planet of the Apes is very rarely so surface level. When it is, it’s profound. But I’ve found subtext to be dominating factor in this film series. Just the best movies, really.
damn this video aged well (watching this in 2021)
As did the trilogy
9:03 modern enemies, Mustang drivers
This is a great break down!
Ok so you just made me want to see this :D
Glad I came across this, succinct and to the point. Did not even consider watching the remakes as I presumed they would have whitewashed the social relevance of the originals, as films dealing with contemporary society are "now verbotten" during periods of crisis, as we are inundated with the "banality of evil" in the form of Marvel Super heroes.
As an activist of 20 years, I have come to learn that intense indoctrination "the forcing of beliefs onto the victim" halts emotional maturation that comes with learning from experience and coming to one's own conclusions. We now have populations of infantile adults totally dependent upon the system of their oppression and who cannot deal with confrontation and are subservient to corrupt authority and live in a state of perpetual denial. Common symptoms present in personality disorders, including deep self loathing.
That is why you get this frenzied uncritical support of Sanders, straight after the uncritical support and sell out of Obama (that has been wiped from the memory banks) as they desperately seek a saviour via the ballot box, as the alternative is too terrifying to even consider.
The left continue to fail to grasp that this a psychological war, while the psychopaths in charge are acutely aware of this and still wield control while committing the most egregious crimes in broad daylight as a result.
As we now use about 10 barrels of oil for every one we find that is growing in disparity daily (and the impetus driving reckless US militarism) ....the corona virus and total collapse of western industrial society are occurring simultaneously, as denial and stupidity continue to reign supreme. It's going to get extremely ugly I am afraid.
This video keeps aging better and better as more movies come out, the pandemic trials with Fauci go on, and political extremism globally are all very prevalent right now.
So good :D
King Mckay i watch ur vids man p.s i am not a stalker
Hahaha thanks man
Thanks King! Excited for GoT's return? I'd guess so after the prodigious amount of content you've cranked out this past four months!
Yeah this season should be jammed packed with only 7 episodes! I was wondering how you got that awesome GoT 3D font for you Game of Thrones Symbolism videos?
Pretty sure you can find it here; will double check with gfx designer tomorrow. fontmeme.com/fonts/game-of-thrones-font/
Best channel on RUclips
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2021: this... has become relevant
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Could you provide a list of the music tracks used in the video? Some of them are really great.
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I love how this vids ends playing boards of canada
Glad you noticed and appreciate! Great track.
I love the reboot trilogy
watching this in 2020 -_-
Can you do one about snow piercer or looper
More GOT please
Now that's awesome video true and honest!!
These videos are love
WOW great video ☺️
Great video !
9:40 if only you'd known...
0:08 immediately I have to pause the video, because I honestly thought he said "the devil's porn"
no i disagree i think the ape movies represent the question what if apes replaced humans not ruled over human
It honestly is deeper than both of those. Its about the flaws in human nature. How we always tend to shoot ourselves in the foot due to our arrogance combined with shortsightedness. We rarely learn our lesson or heed warnings as we are selfish and ignorant and when you pair that with our vast capabilities we are incredibly and increasingly a danger to ourselves and most other species we come in contact with.
OMG IM SHOOK
What's the name of the song playing in the video?
They should have gotten Matt Reeves to direct star wars 9
If Apes were in control? I guess we would be flinging poo at them.
cutting edge visuals
shows worst visual in the new trilogy
Wait a minute how i love apes series but are some issues about the humans why they dont use a mass rapid fire from every angles to defeat the apes because one man army dont make much difference 😤😫👍🏽😉
I enjoyed the 2001 planet of the apes
why was it a let down?
Technically we are apes so apes already rule over humans.
CoronaVirus
It's about the oppressed over coming their oppressors
I think it's even deeper than that...especially in the last two films...it explores what happens after the oppressed are liberation...internal conflicts within the groups...the contrasts of extremists and moderates...a very complex and highly underrated trilogy
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Definalty, the first movie main message was Oppressed overcoming oppressor, the next few movies were like the oppressed overcoming oppressing themselves or something in that manner.
@@samuraijackoff5354 actually thats a perfect way of putting it