I love my original Marlin microgrove barreled Model 1895 in .45-70 and carried it frequently in the bush of Northern BC when I lived in Prince George. After much testing and research it became clear to me that high sectional density non-expanding 45 calibre rifle bullets need not be pushed to maximum velocity to have devastating penetration. In that process of discovery I took some Barnes original 400gr .458 diameter bullets and cut off the small amount of exposed lead. This created a slightly larger meplat and revealed a very thick jacket with a final weight of 380gr. I loaded them to 1700fps (as per chronograph). My penetration target was a standard large blue rubbermaid tub which I filled with vertically oriented and tightly packed newspaper which I then saturated with water. The wet newsprint swelled the tub out like a balloon and was a real chore to move. At a distance of 25 yds that bullet punched all the way through the tub, a total of 24+ inches, and I recovered it in the sandy back stop. Other than the rifling marks the bullet was not deformed in any way. Wet newspaper is a tough medium to penetrate. I am confident a frontal shot on any bruin would travel completely through the animal. Of course the round kicks like a mule but one would never feel it given the adrenalin dump caused by a charging bear. 🇨🇦 UP!
It was a totally new production line. Remington scraped all of the Marlin equipment, which was old school stuff. Specs and tolerances were written on paper with machines run by hand. This was replaced by computers and advanced cnc. Everything was new state of the art modern production line. What Ruger got in the bankruptcy purchase was nothing from the original Marlin. Same thing goes for the H&R 1871 nothing made it to PSA.
I've wanted a Marlin 1895 guide gun in 45-70 ever since I read an article about them in field and stream as a teenager when I carried my dads 336, my grandfather gave me a model 36 in 30-30 when I turned 18 and have taken afew white tail with it here in Ontario. Recently got a ruger made 1894 in 44 mag and still wanting the guide gun in 45-70 (have been on a wait list to call when in stock for a year now) nice to see what thoughs hot loads are capable of I'm thinking 44 mag will be a good cartridge for getting into handloading as someone who's never tried it but interested in starting haven't shot the new one yet but will be saving all my brass when I get time to take her out wish I could get a Blackhawk Alaskan to go with in pending a regime change
The 400 gr. Hardcast Gotta Hurt! I would go with those for a charging Grizz! For Sure! Nice Shootin! Nice Knife Too! That is no ugly Rifle,we just know there has been Better.
I have used the rem safe for all rifles 405gr softpoint. To shoot through 2 deer that was a accident years ago. But have also shot through 2 hogs running. Not sure how they lined up. But it went through the first about 200lbs through thenext shoulder into that ones off side through the blade braking it and stoped in the fat. The second was over 350lbs thats where the scale stopped. That was a lot of penitraion for such a slow round.
Got an old JM 1895 from 1977 and a late Remlin 1895. The Remlin has terrible checkering but wood to metal fit is pretty good on mine. Im a Winchester 71 --- Marlin 1895 type of person. You should do a series on the 1895. Not much better out there than an classic 1895.
As I recall Marlin 1895's had micro-groove rifling and Remlin had Ballard type rifling. Ballard is one of the reasons I was drawn to it (for cast loads). They are pretty classic. I have been drooling over the 336 Stainless / Walnut for years but have never been able to afford one.
I owned the Marlin Guide Gun when they were first released. I added the XS receiver sights with the matching front sight. I think the shorter barrel contributed to poor performance. Recently I shot my new Ruger/Marlin 1894 in .44 Remington Magnum. I concocted a load near maximum for use in my revolvers. I had no chance of making a good group due to my old eyes and the buckhorn sights. This is a fun little gun but I will have to add a receiver ghost ring sight to be able to get on target. Maybe some softer shooting ammo as well.
I avoided the Guide Guns because they intimidate me a bit but I think you did the right thing with that sighting arrangement. 44 Mag rounds shoot much faster in rifle (compared to a revolver) and makes that round a different beast entirely. I love the 44 Mag in a Rossi lever M92 (love it).
Interesting discussion and experiment. I live on the east coast so have no experience with your big browns. For blacks, I might suggest the lighter bullet would be fine with a good mix of penetration and expansion. For the 400 grain load I suggest you try some loads @1500 fps. Should be easier to shoot for you and likely not give up much, if any, in the penetration department. Many large animals have been taken and stopped by the old US carbine, black powder load and it was reported to easily fully penetrate a horse. 🤷🏻♂️ I shoot a browning ‘86 SRC and my days of full house loads are behind me!! The 400 grain cast lead flat point is a heavy hitter.
I think I probably agree with everything you said here. I think I'll stay with the 1800 fps load though (because I made too much of it). I'll have to shoot more of it though because its a few years old now. I'd love to try one of those Browning 86 rifles. I keep hearing they are better made than the original rifles? I would appreciate your opinion on that.
@@Riflechair I’ve owned a few origional 86 Winchesters over the years and they are very nice but the only one I’ve kept is a .33 WCF. The Browning SRC is a very nice hunting rifle. I added a receiver sight and I’m making a new, taller front sight blade. It’s very slick. Bullet choice is important with the Brownings as they don’t have a lead from the chamber to the rifling. Not a problem with the right bullet profile. I think the Winchester 71 is the slickest of the bunch and one of those converted to .45-70 would be my ideal compromise. Shooting a ‘76 SRC in .45-60 has taught me a lot about moderate loads and 300 grain cast bullets so the .45-70 SRC is all of that plus more, especially with a 400 grain load. It has worked very well on NL moose for sure.
Hey! Great to see You! Got Your REMLIN out, eh? I'm glad that was Your shoulder taking the beating! I tried to do some rapid fire training with my 375 H&H, by myself, as I wasn't trying to be a comedic act, nor injure innocents. In the end, with arthritic shoulders, I ended up with the 1894 Cowboy, 45 Colt, 300 gr hard cast, pushed as hard as I dare in My little Remlin. Otherwise, I'll just keep the M1A with a 20 rounder handy in camp, and on nature walks here in Idaho. Take er easy! Have fun! Don't get caught!
I try not to take my Remin out in public :) Rapid fire 375 H&H might mean a visit to the doctor (for me). I think age is catching up with me. I always liked the way you think Darreld - a really hot 45 Colt might need to be in my future! Which is stronger the Marlin 94 or the M92 Winchester? I'd assume the Marlin. Cheers Darreld!
If you need power against bad bears and want instant next shots me and others build AR 10s for sale in WSM magnum chamberings. I do for sale the AR 10 uppers in 358 WSM and in 375 WSM and a 308 20 round AR 10 mag holds 9 rounds of a WSM magnum cartridges the AR 10 goes through like shooting waterfowl 12 gauge loads. The 325 WSM I do also in the AR 10 uppers for sale and it is an absolute killer of mean animals.
A friend wants me to purchase his 1886 chiappa alaskan in 45-70. This particular rifle is a takedown with a 12" barrel. He is a diminutive fellow and this calibre really knocks him about. His thinking is that with my size, I will fair better under the recoil. Will head out next range day and give it a try. The short 12" barrel makes it very pointable, but my concern is that it may impact substantially on the 45-70's terminal ballistics down range. In essence, does the 45-70 require a longer barrel for performance. Thinking this rifle will replace my mossberg 12 ga shockwave with full stock and 14" barrel loaded with slugs for predator defence. Just wondering about your thoughts?
If you miss then hopefully the fireball will scare him off. A 12" barrel is ludicrously short and you will lose a lot of velocity. Barrel length should be longer and the 1886 action might not be strong enough for hot loads.
How do you carry in hand at the point at all times if he comes out of the scrubs on a charge you will have shock and 1 maybe 2 seconds to get your shot off it has to be good
Its simply not possible to carry a rifle in your hands at all times BUT that Marlin 1895 is light enough where you can do so comfortably. Not all bear situations are a 2 second scenario. I sometimes see Grizzly and Black bears as far away as 50-100 metres and they can close the distance either quickly or slowly which can be enough to develop a plan and set some proximity triggers.
It would be interesting to see the difference between a 45-70 & the 45-90 in handloads... Got a feeling the 45-90 wouldn't make a that big a difference with todays powders... The 12 ga. question at 50 m? I would think is all accuracy.
The larger case capacity will still put out a noticeable difference with black or smokeless. I had a 500gr cast load worked up and chronographed to 2000fps out of a modern winchester 1886 45-90. The recoil was brutal with the steel crescent butt plate so I have adjusted that load back down to 1800fps.
No it was made for me by a very inventive and industrious young man and subscriber to my channel back in 2017. I love ir. Sharpest blade I've ever had the pleasure of using.
Wouldn't the expansion of the factory ammo be better for defense against a bear than a hard cast? I still have a bunch of jet bullets 45-70 and 303 brit, does he still make them? Thought he stopped a few years ago. Any other supplier out there?
JH bullets are no longer avail. Jacketted bullets are great (esp for soft tissue shots) and they usually have very soft lead but as you can see that FTX may not have been as good for stopping shots (forward locomotion). You may only get one shot. Its a big subject and these are only my opinions.
Dangerous game anchoring bullets are usually monolithic solids to ensure maximum penetration into the vital organs. A flat nose design creates cavitation in front of the bullet as it goes through wet tissue; this is the temporary wound channel. A big slow moving monolithic creates a huge wound channel.
@@lylemacdonald6672 Good to see a rare person who actually knows something that is correct and not Parroting mounting total BS. Barns and Lehigh both make bullets for the 45-70 that no cheap crap lead bullet can compare to these two company's bullets but the brainwashing in these videos to think some lead bullet is the wonder bullet of all bullets is a BS. I just seen another video where the Knuckle head is using his I am a retired cop BS to tell lies that FMJ solid bullets make a reverse then travel backwards into animals then blow up! The wild telling lies from either the video owner or commenters can get pretty far out there! For the 9.3x62 Mauser I own I often load and shoot the Barns 286 grain Solid for Alaskan Yukon Moose or Brown bear so that bullet really puts the animals down! African PH often recommend the solids for the 9.3x62 Mauser for killing cape Buffalow so whacking moose is now problem.
A friends father put 7(!) 338 Winchester magnum rounds in a inland brown. The last 2 tossed in. Under 5 yards when he fell. Yep you might have to shoot more than once lol. It was 4 on the list for a while. He's got it as a full body mount. FMJs penetrate like crazy but you get that pencil wound channel. I've fired regular steel case 7.62x39 straight through 8" hemlock. Another friend had a tussle with a brown. He didn't hesitate and dumped the whole mag of 5.45 into it. It worked, but I wouldn't recommend carrying a AK-74 for a bear gun!
The 338 Win Mag is probably the most potent hunting round out there. Pretty amazing how much punishment a pissed off Grizzly Bear can sustain before dropping.
@@Riflechair The 338 win mag isn't the most potent and powerful at all! As an Alaskan resident and Hunting guided in Alaska for 30 years I could list a book of far more powerful cartridges clients have brought on their hunts. I also own a 338 win mag and rifles that are far more powerful than a 338 win mag. I build and sell AR 10 uppers in all the WSM magnums and a reloader cartridge of a 375 WSM. I also own a rare Brevex Mauser I've done in 8 mm - 378 Weatherby magnum with the most used load I use is 125 grains of IMR 7828 powder and a 200 grain Barns X bullet for a velocity of 3800 FPS from a 30 inch Douglas barrel. In power the 9.3x62 Mauser using my reloads that bring this cartridge up to a 375 H&H magnum that also exceeds the power of the 338 win magnum but the 338 win mag brings on the power for the longer ranges than the 9.3x62 was intended for. I own a Weatherby Mark 5 chambered in 378 Wby magnum that has 8000-foot pounds of energy with 300 grain bullets compare that to a 338 win mag that produce 4800-foot pounds or energy. If you like the 45-70 good for you as for me never would I ever use such a weak cartridge as the 45-70 on these Alaskan brown bears! and using crap lead bullets on these bears is going to cause a failure to put down a bear when the lead bullet exploded into fragments. For bear and the 45-70 it should be only loaded with Barns copper expanders for the 45-70 or the bullets for the 45-70 made by Lehigh bullet company
AT 25 feet 1 second implies a speed of bear of 25fps or 25x60 ft. per minute or 25x60x60 ft per hour or 25x60x60/5280 mph or 17 mph: seems reasonable but it does mean you will only get split seconds to fire. wouldnb't dn't somethinbg this work better? Inkunzi PAW aka Neopup on forrgotten weapons- channel all the best
@@Riflechair "No truer words" ... you're doing just great ..... I was referring to your philosophy of use .... same as mine ... except I have the 1895 Guide gun in 45-70 and load the 405gr Remington JSP to 1800 fps using H335. I have black bears and feral hogs around here, on which the above load is devastating to use.
I love my original Marlin microgrove barreled Model 1895 in .45-70 and carried it frequently in the bush of Northern BC when I lived in Prince George. After much testing and research it became clear to me that high sectional density non-expanding 45 calibre rifle bullets need not be pushed to maximum velocity to have devastating penetration. In that process of discovery I took some Barnes original 400gr .458 diameter bullets and cut off the small amount of exposed lead. This created a slightly larger meplat and revealed a very thick jacket with a final weight of 380gr. I loaded them to 1700fps (as per chronograph). My penetration target was a standard large blue rubbermaid tub which I filled with vertically oriented and tightly packed newspaper which I then saturated with water. The wet newsprint swelled the tub out like a balloon and was a real chore to move. At a distance of 25 yds that bullet punched all the way through the tub, a total of 24+ inches, and I recovered it in the sandy back stop. Other than the rifling marks the bullet was not deformed in any way. Wet newspaper is a tough medium to penetrate. I am confident a frontal shot on any bruin would travel completely through the animal. Of course the round kicks like a mule but one would never feel it given the adrenalin dump caused by a charging bear. 🇨🇦 UP!
Never seen anyone to zero his rifle with forestry gear. But i also never worked in Bearcountry .... stay safe ! Great video !
I'm frequently out in the bush running chainsaws and brushcut saws in my spare time. I made this video on the fly between jobs.
As long as the rifle works every time, nothing else matters.
Good video.
That’s the kind of tests I like to watch
Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Good point regarding philosophy of use
That action sure sounded smooth in that last scene.
Sounds different when there is no ammo in it. I definitely need to clean the tubular magazine out.
It was a totally new production line. Remington scraped all of the Marlin equipment, which was old school stuff. Specs and tolerances were written on paper with machines run by hand. This was replaced by computers and advanced cnc. Everything was new state of the art modern production line. What Ruger got in the bankruptcy purchase was nothing from the original Marlin. Same thing goes for the H&R 1871 nothing made it to PSA.
Interesting. As I understand it all production was moved and very few of the Marlin employees moved over to work for Remington (and it showed).
Good video. You might want to look at running an aperture rear sight. They are faster to get on target with than standard rear sights.
I've looked at them but I am fine with the factory sights.
The depth of the pine log penetration is very telling. As is the visible difference in recoil.
There is a balance when it comes to recoil and rate of fire. I might get two shots off with the 400gr HC but get three shots with the 325gr FTX.
Well done sir ! We don’t have grizz down here in NS but we love our marlins ! I well know the diff from ftx to hand
Damn good to see you, teacher!
Thats awfully nice of you to say!
Liking the knife design
I've wanted a Marlin 1895 guide gun in 45-70 ever since I read an article about them in field and stream as a teenager when I carried my dads 336, my grandfather gave me a model 36 in 30-30 when I turned 18 and have taken afew white tail with it here in Ontario. Recently got a ruger made 1894 in 44 mag and still wanting the guide gun in 45-70 (have been on a wait list to call when in stock for a year now) nice to see what thoughs hot loads are capable of I'm thinking 44 mag will be a good cartridge for getting into handloading as someone who's never tried it but interested in starting haven't shot the new one yet but will be saving all my brass when I get time to take her out wish I could get a Blackhawk Alaskan to go with in pending a regime change
The 400 gr. Hardcast Gotta Hurt! I would go with those for a charging Grizz! For Sure! Nice Shootin! Nice Knife Too! That is no ugly Rifle,we just know there has been Better.
Always great and relevant information/content. Wonderful to see your videos once again! Peace Be The Journey!
I have used the rem safe for all rifles 405gr softpoint. To shoot through 2 deer that was a accident years ago.
But have also shot through 2 hogs running. Not sure how they lined up. But it went through the first about 200lbs through thenext shoulder into that ones off side through the blade braking it and stoped in the fat. The second was over 350lbs thats where the scale stopped. That was a lot of penitraion for such a slow round.
I run hot loads of 45-70 out of a CVA Scout with a ported muzzle break and it eats up some of that harsh recoil you see in the Marlins.
Got an old JM 1895 from 1977 and a late Remlin 1895. The Remlin has terrible checkering but wood to metal fit is pretty good on mine. Im a Winchester 71 --- Marlin 1895 type of person. You should do a series on the 1895. Not much better out there than an classic 1895.
As I recall Marlin 1895's had micro-groove rifling and Remlin had Ballard type rifling. Ballard is one of the reasons I was drawn to it (for cast loads). They are pretty classic. I have been drooling over the 336 Stainless / Walnut for years but have never been able to afford one.
Great video sir , as always 👍 👏
Thanks Donald 👍
Thanks again for the video.
I owned the Marlin Guide Gun when they were first released. I added the XS receiver sights with the matching front sight. I think the shorter barrel contributed to poor performance. Recently I shot my new Ruger/Marlin 1894 in .44 Remington Magnum. I concocted a load near maximum for use in my revolvers. I had no chance of making a good group due to my old eyes and the buckhorn sights. This is a fun little gun but I will have to add a receiver ghost ring sight to be able to get on target. Maybe some softer shooting ammo as well.
I avoided the Guide Guns because they intimidate me a bit but I think you did the right thing with that sighting arrangement. 44 Mag rounds shoot much faster in rifle (compared to a revolver) and makes that round a different beast entirely. I love the 44 Mag in a Rossi lever M92 (love it).
Interesting discussion and experiment. I live on the east coast so have no experience with your big browns. For blacks, I might suggest the lighter bullet would be fine with a good mix of penetration and expansion. For the 400 grain load I suggest you try some loads @1500 fps. Should be easier to shoot for you and likely not give up much, if any, in the penetration department. Many large animals have been taken and stopped by the old US carbine, black powder load and it was reported to easily fully penetrate a horse. 🤷🏻♂️
I shoot a browning ‘86 SRC and my days of full house loads are behind me!! The 400 grain cast lead flat point is a heavy hitter.
I think I probably agree with everything you said here. I think I'll stay with the 1800 fps load though (because I made too much of it). I'll have to shoot more of it though because its a few years old now. I'd love to try one of those Browning 86 rifles. I keep hearing they are better made than the original rifles? I would appreciate your opinion on that.
@@Riflechair I’ve owned a few origional 86 Winchesters over the years and they are very nice but the only one I’ve kept is a .33 WCF. The Browning SRC is a very nice hunting rifle. I added a receiver sight and I’m making a new, taller front sight blade. It’s very slick. Bullet choice is important with the Brownings as they don’t have a lead from the chamber to the rifling. Not a problem with the right bullet profile. I think the Winchester 71 is the slickest of the bunch and one of those converted to .45-70 would be my ideal compromise. Shooting a ‘76 SRC in .45-60 has taught me a lot about moderate loads and 300 grain cast bullets so the .45-70 SRC is all of that plus more, especially with a 400 grain load. It has worked very well on NL moose for sure.
Didn't have to sniff the barrel on that one to make sure it went off.
I'm in my mid-50's now and heavy recoil seems to be getting heavier?
The only commercial manufacturer I know of that makes hot loads for .45-70 is buffalo bore.
HSM & Grizzly ammo both do as well
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Hey! Great to see You! Got Your REMLIN out, eh? I'm glad that was Your shoulder taking the beating! I tried to do some rapid fire training with my 375 H&H, by myself, as I wasn't trying to be a comedic act, nor injure innocents. In the end, with arthritic shoulders, I ended up with the 1894 Cowboy, 45 Colt, 300 gr hard cast, pushed as hard as I dare in My little Remlin. Otherwise, I'll just keep the M1A with a 20 rounder handy in camp, and on nature walks here in Idaho. Take er easy! Have fun! Don't get caught!
I try not to take my Remin out in public :) Rapid fire 375 H&H might mean a visit to the doctor (for me). I think age is catching up with me. I always liked the way you think Darreld - a really hot 45 Colt might need to be in my future! Which is stronger the Marlin 94 or the M92 Winchester? I'd assume the Marlin. Cheers Darreld!
If you need power against bad bears and want instant next shots me and others build AR 10s for sale in WSM magnum chamberings.
I do for sale the AR 10 uppers in 358 WSM and in 375 WSM and a 308 20 round AR 10 mag holds 9 rounds of a WSM magnum cartridges the AR 10 goes through like shooting waterfowl 12 gauge loads.
The 325 WSM I do also in the AR 10 uppers for sale and it is an absolute killer of mean animals.
A friend wants me to purchase his 1886 chiappa alaskan in 45-70. This particular rifle is a takedown with a 12" barrel. He is a diminutive fellow and this calibre really knocks him about. His thinking is that with my size, I will fair better under the recoil. Will head out next range day and give it a try. The short 12" barrel makes it very pointable, but my concern is that it may impact substantially on the 45-70's terminal ballistics down range. In essence, does the 45-70 require a longer barrel for performance. Thinking this rifle will replace my mossberg 12 ga shockwave with full stock and 14" barrel loaded with slugs for predator defence. Just wondering about your thoughts?
If you miss then hopefully the fireball will scare him off. A 12" barrel is ludicrously short and you will lose a lot of velocity. Barrel length should be longer and the 1886 action might not be strong enough for hot loads.
How do you carry in hand at the point at all times if he comes out of the scrubs on a charge you will have shock and 1 maybe 2 seconds to get your shot off it has to be good
Its simply not possible to carry a rifle in your hands at all times BUT that Marlin 1895 is light enough where you can do so comfortably. Not all bear situations are a 2 second scenario. I sometimes see Grizzly and Black bears as far away as 50-100 metres and they can close the distance either quickly or slowly which can be enough to develop a plan and set some proximity triggers.
@@Riflechair stay safe 🙏
It would be interesting to see the difference between a 45-70 & the 45-90 in handloads... Got a feeling the 45-90 wouldn't make a that big a difference with todays powders... The 12 ga. question at 50 m? I would think is all accuracy.
Good point. The 12ga can't compete in the group size department at 50m.
The larger case capacity will still put out a noticeable difference with black or smokeless. I had a 500gr cast load worked up and chronographed to 2000fps out of a modern winchester 1886 45-90. The recoil was brutal with the steel crescent butt plate so I have adjusted that load back down to 1800fps.
did you make that cool knife?
No it was made for me by a very inventive and industrious young man and subscriber to my channel back in 2017. I love ir. Sharpest blade I've ever had the pleasure of using.
please do the 45-70vs 12ga both 2-3/4 and 3"
Sounds like a great video that someone else should make!
458 socom
You know dang well why the polymer tip.
I think its nylon? So as to not set off primer strikes in the tubular magazine and possibly to increase expansion. Maybe also to decrease drop.
Wouldn't the expansion of the factory ammo be better for defense against a bear than a hard cast? I still have a bunch of jet bullets 45-70 and 303 brit, does he still make them? Thought he stopped a few years ago. Any other supplier out there?
JH bullets are no longer avail. Jacketted bullets are great (esp for soft tissue shots) and they usually have very soft lead but as you can see that FTX may not have been as good for stopping shots (forward locomotion). You may only get one shot. Its a big subject and these are only my opinions.
The bullet barn
I think he is still making some
Dangerous game anchoring bullets are usually monolithic solids to ensure maximum penetration into the vital organs. A flat nose design creates cavitation in front of the bullet as it goes through wet tissue; this is the temporary wound channel. A big slow moving monolithic creates a huge wound channel.
@@lylemacdonald6672 Good to see a rare person who actually knows something that is correct and not Parroting mounting total BS.
Barns and Lehigh both make bullets for the 45-70 that no cheap crap lead bullet can compare to these two company's bullets but the brainwashing in these videos to think some lead bullet is the wonder bullet of all bullets is a BS.
I just seen another video where the Knuckle head is using his I am a retired cop BS to tell lies that FMJ solid bullets make a reverse then travel backwards into animals then blow up!
The wild telling lies from either the video owner or commenters can get pretty far out there!
For the 9.3x62 Mauser I own I often load and shoot the Barns 286 grain Solid for Alaskan Yukon Moose or Brown bear so that bullet really puts the animals down!
African PH often recommend the solids for the 9.3x62 Mauser for killing cape Buffalow so whacking moose is now problem.
A friends father put 7(!) 338 Winchester magnum rounds in a inland brown. The last 2 tossed in. Under 5 yards when he fell. Yep you might have to shoot more than once lol. It was 4 on the list for a while. He's got it as a full body mount. FMJs penetrate like crazy but you get that pencil wound channel. I've fired regular steel case 7.62x39 straight through 8" hemlock. Another friend had a tussle with a brown. He didn't hesitate and dumped the whole mag of 5.45 into it. It worked, but I wouldn't recommend carrying a AK-74 for a bear gun!
The 338 Win Mag is probably the most potent hunting round out there. Pretty amazing how much punishment a pissed off Grizzly Bear can sustain before dropping.
@@Riflechair The 338 win mag isn't the most potent and powerful at all!
As an Alaskan resident and Hunting guided in Alaska for 30 years I could list a book of far more powerful cartridges clients have brought on their hunts.
I also own a 338 win mag and rifles that are far more powerful than a 338 win mag.
I build and sell AR 10 uppers in all the WSM magnums and a reloader cartridge of a 375 WSM.
I also own a rare Brevex Mauser I've done in 8 mm - 378 Weatherby magnum with the most used load I use is 125 grains of IMR 7828 powder and a 200 grain Barns X bullet for a velocity of 3800 FPS from a 30 inch Douglas barrel.
In power the 9.3x62 Mauser using my reloads that bring this cartridge up to a 375 H&H magnum that also exceeds the power of the 338 win magnum but the 338 win mag brings on the power for the longer ranges than the 9.3x62 was intended for.
I own a Weatherby Mark 5 chambered in 378 Wby magnum that has 8000-foot pounds of energy with 300 grain bullets compare that to a 338 win mag that produce 4800-foot pounds or energy.
If you like the 45-70 good for you as for me never would I ever use such a weak cartridge as the 45-70 on these Alaskan brown bears! and using crap lead bullets on these bears is going to cause a failure to put down a bear when the lead bullet exploded into fragments.
For bear and the 45-70 it should be only loaded with Barns copper expanders for the 45-70 or the bullets for the 45-70 made by Lehigh bullet company
@@lurebenson7722 How much do you weigh?
I cant imagine being charged by a bear..
It changes you.
AT 25 feet 1 second implies a speed of bear of
25fps
or
25x60 ft. per minute
or
25x60x60 ft per hour
or
25x60x60/5280 mph
or
17 mph: seems reasonable but it does mean you will only get split seconds to fire.
wouldnb't dn't somethinbg this work better?
Inkunzi PAW aka Neopup
on forrgotten weapons- channel
all the best
Did a google & black Bears can run up to 35 mph, so 1 mph = 1.46 fps.
You must be an Engineer!
@@Riflechair No just getting my head around how little time there is to react.
@@craigparker4108 You might have only one shot. Do a Google search the "The Phantom of Hungry Hill"
@@Riflechair Cool story, that moment in time would be the most focused time of your life most likely.
non magis verbis
Am I talking too much? I'm usually pretty quiet.
@@Riflechair "No truer words" ... you're doing just great ..... I was referring to your philosophy of use .... same as mine ... except I have the 1895 Guide gun in 45-70 and load the 405gr Remington JSP to 1800 fps using H335. I have black bears and feral hogs around here, on which the above load is devastating to use.