🛩️ S800 V2 build - Omnibus F3 and Inav setup
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Detailed build log of a Reptile S800 V2. Specifically how to install a Omnibus F3 flight controller, attach hardware, and then program in Inav.
EDIT: I missed a step on the Inav setup. You need to reverse the rate on servo 3. Go to the servos tab, and then on the row for servo 3 set the rate to -100%.
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best inav setup video :) fast, no blabla
Yes +100000000 haha
I don't have a wing but I sat to watch this :) very nice and detailed video. I'm ready now.for my wing lol
Probably one of the best build videos I've ever seen
This is one of the best instructional vids I've seen on setting up a wing. THANK YOU.
Just received all the components to build my first wing (ar wing). I am following your steps to build mine. Thank you so much.
Just bought some cheap $14 Omnibus F3 Pro flight controllers for my Eachine Blackwing (and hopefully C1 Chaser) build. This video will definitely come in handy so thanks in advance!
Excellent tutorial on INAV setup ! Clear and thorough.
Fantastic Video! Anything explained. One of the best videos. Thank you sir!!!
Thank you very much for inspiration and how to do it. You're the best
Super video. Perfectly detailed and explained. Many Thanks
Finally!! At the end I found the kind of video I was searching!! U won a new subscriber ;)
Brilliant video nice build we need more like this keep them coming
Sorry i meant to say the BEST video I’ve seen on building etc! Great work bro! I defo subscribed! Happy flying!:)
You've just gained yourself a subscriber
Just found this video, brilliant!
Best build video I've every seen. I wish any of the others around RUclips were this clear. Thank! I may have to get one of these things. Cheers! Liked, subbed :) Nice to meet ya!
Cant wait for the maiden!
excellent video, direct to the point... Subscribed !
beautiful video and beautiful build
I really appreciate your step by step Videos!
I bought a S800 as well over a year ago, but never got the CG right, it is not that easy as i tought like a normal plane with fuselage.
The CG is so narrow every 0.001mm afects the CG quickly.
How did you get the CG right??
awesome vid, been looking for this allover.. thx
Cool! Looking at getting the kit version of this.
Other videos said that the kit version has bad quality parts, might be better to pick and order them yourself.
Mathijs Bernson, that's what's am going to do, I meant the kit version as the airframe.😃
Outstanding Video!!!
You have just gained another subscriber!
Nice video dude! thanks for sharing!
Cant wait for my s800 to come in now! ;)
Liked & Subbed!
I also subscribed! I am waiting for your next videos.
Any plans to make a full build video for a wing wing z-84?
latest version thank you brother
Absolutely fantastic video, but your soldering technique makes me want to poke out my eyes :)
Martin Ferguson Haha, I know it's terrible in this video. My soldering station broke a few days before doing this build, so I had to use my friends cheap and nasty £15 soldering iron. I know you should never blame your tools for poor work, but honestly it was so hard to get a good solder joint going with that iron
grahame addicott you probably already know, but the reason it was hard is that the solder tip was a pencil tip. You need a 3-4mm chisel for 90% of solders, a fat fat (5-7mm) bevel for power wires and large pads and conical (pencil) is only for board pins.
After my rmrc is done, your inspiration will power me to build a s800. Thanks champ.
Thank you so much for this video,i think i'm going to copy your set up XD and of course,i have just subscribed to your channel ;)
Great video you just earned yourself another sub
Fantastic no frills video, man. Hoping you can help. My problem is elevons act exactly the same whether moving stick up and down or left and right. Tried reversing every possible combo including physical connections - no luck. Ever run across that?
No, can't say I have. Did you apply the wing preset? And reverse one of the servos?
thank you for this my friend!
really nice video man!!
Beautiful setup, just wondering if crimping wouldn’t hold better than solder.
this music makes you nuts
Great video bro! :) helped tuns!
3:13 (im a begginer so maybe that’s a dumb question) why your soldering does not correspond with the wiring diagram ?
If I recall correctly, the flight controller came with the white wire already soldered in place. I didn't add it
@@gizfpv oh ok thx
Grahame addicott thanks for your help ... now i'm sure i'll be ready to fly this week-end 😀 juste one question . Where can i find the CLI command ? Can you wrote it here ...or maybe there is a web page.?
Nice video !
What tuning pid tuning are you using? You showed that they are from the Z-84 wing. Is this so or have you corrected them?
I have another question ! why in the INAV configuration you remove the parameter of the barometer?
on my f3 I have a barometer but not integret in my GPS I have to check the option barometer in the config? Thank you
Looked at this build at least 20 times and I still wanna know if you had to adjust CG.
Thanks for this nice video. Did you make the "bay door" support for the GPS?
Did you experience any CG issues with your S800. Did you have to add weight to the front to achieve CG?
Why would you disable barometer? Altitude is needed for some flight modes in Rtl and gps altitude calculations are very inaccurate.
Good build vid
Hi Giz,i'm mounting my first Omnibus F3 in following your tuto,i have a question,you tel us to solder a jumper wire across RAM and VBAT,i understand but i don't see it on your FC and you seem have done another jumper by the side with your white wire...So,just a jumper between VBAT and RAM is enough?
I mean the cli commands you have modified.Sorry for my bad english.
These are the CLI commands I use:
set max_angle_inclination_rll = 600
set max_angle_inclination_pit = 600
set small_angle = 180
set nav_fw_bank_angle = 35
set nav_rth_altitude = 7000
set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = 0
set nav_rth_allow_landing = OFF
How come we have to input those commands into the CLI? Do you still have to do that with the newest version of inav? I'm new to inav and I'm just confused to why those need to be imported to the CLI. I know set small angle so that way you can arm the plane in any orientation what do the rest do?
think I would appreciate any information you would give me I'm in the middle of building a AR wing 900 with the omnibus F4 Pro V3.
Thanks in advance
Rob
Sorry for the delay replying. Yeah you still have to enter most of these codes into the CLI (the exceptions being the ''nav rth altitude'' and ''nav rth allow landing'' codes with can now been done in the GUI now). The INAV GUI allows you to program the generic settings, but the more specialist settings are still done via the CLI. I guess thats so that the GUI doesn't end up looking super complicated. The codes do the following:
set max_angle_inclination_rll - This sets how far the aircraft is allowed to roll in stabilized modes
set max_angle_inclination_pit = This sets how far the aircraft is allowed to pitch in stabilized modes
set small_angle = Allows you to arm the aircraft in any orientation
set nav_fw_bank_angle = This sets the maximum angle the aircraft can roll in RTH
set nav_rth_altitude = This sets how high the aircraft needs to climb to in RTH (measured in centimeters)
set failsafe_throttle_low_delay = Changing this to 0 means that the aircraft won't disarm if throttle is at 0%
set nav_rth_allow_landing = This tells the aircraft not to attempt to land itself in RTH mode. Instead will loiter.
@@gizfpv no problem can understand people are busy. Thank you for the reply I was really confused that helped quite a bit. Is this wing pretty much the same as the sonicmodell AR 900 wing, if I were to use the same CLI commands would it work or do I have to do more research? They are about the same size. What preset would you use for the AR wing 900? I'm so new to this I know how to use betaflight but airplanes and Inav is completely different in some ways. I'm hoping to have a successful maiden and not end up in disaster lol. Almost thinking about not using inav at all and just flying it manually. But honestly you think if I go through this video over a few times the settings and setup is pretty much the same on the AR 900?
Thanks again in advance and sorry about all the questions I'm not very computer savvy. I am too using the omnibus F4 pro 3 FC.
Hope you enjoy the coming weekend
Rob
In terms of programming, yeah the AR 900 wing should be almost identical to the S800. Use the Z84 preset and it should work fine. And yeah, you can still use all the same CLI commands. There's a few extra you should add too:
set disarm_kill_switch=OFF
set nav_extra_arming_safety = ON
You might find it useful to look at some of my more recent build videos, such as the Sonic Modell F1 build. Inav has changed a little over the past year and the Inav setup part of that video might help you out.
@@gizfpv thank you so much I will check out your newer videos I actually did watch them but I will watch them again. What do those two CLI commands do exactly?
And I really appreciate the help although your videos are amazing as they are I'm just a bit nervous on my first inav build lol. I'll just keep watching your videos until I get it.
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Hello ! Now that we can put F4 controller, would you do it ? Asking this question as a total beginner. Aand that build video is basically excellent btw.
You can do yes, although you wouldn't notice any difference. It'll fly no different on a F3 or a F4
@@gizfpv Okay thanks. During this night i thought about it, and definitly gonna follow your path an f3. the real question for me is : reptile s800 or A-R 900 ? There might be no good or wrong answers but still on this.
Hi. I have problem build with Omnibus F3. My Omnibus F3 oberheat if get power VBAT from lipo in PDB. How to fix it?
Hi, perfect video thank you for that. Just finishing my s800 with same board. Still waiting for servos. Three questions. Is it necessary to set minimum throttle and if yes why? Did you calibrate ESC and if yes how ? Do you like this wing rather more nose heavy then balanced perfectly ? thank you
You don't have to set min throttle, unless you plan to use the auto launch feature or if you set your motor to spin as soon as you arm. It's not hard to do though so you might as well do it. Yes I calibrated my esc, I used Blheli suite on my laptop to calibrate it. If your esc runs blheli then you can do the same, if not you'll have to do it via inav....on the motors tab click the button to enable motor control and then push the master slider to 100%. Then plug a battery into your s800...it'll beep twice (maybe more depending on which esc you have) at which point drag the master slider back to 0%. That'll make the esc calibrate itself. My s800 is very slightly nose heavy and it seems to fly well, although it'll lose height if you let go of the sticks. My friend's s800 is balanced evenly and his will climb a lot faster than mine. It doesnt matter to much, just experiment untill you find a balance that works for you :)
Thank you , I appreciate your help , did the min throttle adjust and will do the calibration as suggested.
Thx for good video.So why Ram and Vbat port connect?
Muito bom, você pode me passar a relação de eletrônica usada na sua asa? E onde comprar?
At 4:21 you mentioned servo 2 soldered to PWM3 but the drawing shows PWM2.
everysecondiwaste So it does! Good spot. The diagram is wrong, the wire does go to pwm3
Giz FPV so don't wire it the way you show in the diagram? Or wire it that way because the actual diagram is wrong?
O want to follow your build in detail but I don't agree with your servo selection. How are they holding out.
Derrick Mitchell I have been using these exact servos on my S800 for almost a year, haven't had any problems with them
Giz FPV ok cool, I'll buy. Thanks!
You didn't blur enough out on the GPS screen.
@3:15, what does soldering the jumper between RAM and VBAT do? What is RAM?
I am only starting out with flight controllers and iNav etc. I get pretty lost in all the terminology, but I am pretty sure I spotted an article where they used put the analog rssi fromthe L9r to a current pad on an F3 board and altered something in cli. Does that make any sense? Maybe there are different specs of F3 boards? My omnibus f3 and L9R have just arrived and I am trying to get my head around it all, it would be nice to get rssi displayed on the osd.
Great video I have to say!!
I've heard of this, although haven't tried it myself. It's worth giving a go, see if it works
Giz FPV I'm not sure I have the knowledge yet, I'm just starting out with my first fc board...
Gis shouldnt the max for motor be 2000? Also what does ot rth like does it come back 100 percent throttle?
Hey giz, I just ordered the s800 kit. As I have everything else laying around. The flight controller i have is a spracing f3. I don't see much info around for using inav on it. Do you have any info or maybe links? Also I still need to get an m8n neo but I see them labeled for different boards such as apm and dji naza. Any particular version I should order? GPS stuff is something I know nothing about. Any help is greatly appreciated. I subbed brother I love the video.
Bobby Pennington As far as I know the SP racing FC will work with inav, however it has no OSD chip so you'll get no OSD when flying. If that doesn't matter to you then it should work fine. As for GPS, any m8n should work in theory. Just because it's listed as being for naza or something doesn't really mean anything. You should be able to find a generic m8n GPS for about £10-20
Would this pretty much the same setup with FlySky i-bus and no GPS?
Hi, currently I'm building my S800 setup based on your video. 2 questions: what LiPo do you use? (that fits next to the electronics). Why didn't you connect the GPS module using the SPI connector on F3 board? Or it isn't an option?
I currently use a 1400 4s. I know a 2200 3s will fit confortably too, and I think you can get even larger batteries in. Using a 1400 I get around 10 mins of flight. As for the gps, my gps unit didn't have a plug on the end that fit the board, so it was just easier to direct solder it rather than try find and fit a compatible plug
Thank you :)
Did it fly level? I noticed you didn't set the board alignment. i believe its off a bit if the model is flat on the ground.
It flew fine :)
I have got red light blinking on my omnibus f3 and I cant get any satelites gps :(((
Sorry for stupid question, but what is the PDB ?
PDB = Power Distribution Board
Really happy with this wing, but I got an issue were it turns to the left in passthrough, is it best to adjust servos or just fix it with tuning?
If it's turning left in passthrough, my guess would be that your left wing is heavier than the right wing, and therefore is being pulled left. Try balance the aircraft on one finger and see if the left wing dips down. If so my reccomendation would be to adda little weight to the right wing to correct the balance. After that using trimming on your transmitter or if you're using inav use the 'servo auto trim' mode
Thank you!
I for the life of me can not get passthrough on any of the modes tab any suggestions would be awsome i have built one exzactly as your builds
What version of inav are you using? 'Passthrough' mode is now called 'Manual' mode on newer versions
Hi, im new to inav and the f405, f411 FC. Im using firmware 2.6 and wanted to know whats the difference between POS HOLD and LOITER.
POSHOLD and Loiter are both technically the same thing
@@gizfpv thanks for the quick reply. Im using 2) 3 way switches and loiter override (3d) alt+heading hold?
Hi, got another question. Im using 2) 3 position switches, 1st is for horizon and heading hold mode and the 2nd switch loiter n rth. Do i need to switch off switch 1 before activating switch 2? I beleive rth overrides everything but idk if other navigation modes like loiter will cancel out switch 1.
@@theinnocent714 The functions you have on switch two should override the functions you have on switch one. Don't quote me on it, but I'm 90% sure
@@gizfpv hmmm.. ok guess ill have to try it when im done configurating and some ground testing. Thankx
Explain please.
6.43min - in your video.
You connect the transmitter to 12V on PDB ( Stabilizer)
This gives an additional and unnecessary load on the PDB
For what?
If people use the battery 3S?
Maybe this is suitable for battery 4S
Is not it better to connect the transmitter directly to the battery?
Thanks
The answer is simple: providing power to the video transmitter from a 12v regulator as opposed to directly from the battery, provides the transmitter with clean power. The regulator removes 'noise' from the power system caused by the esc/motor. If you powered the transmitter directly from the battery you would almost certainly get noise on the fpv feed, especially at high throttle
Many thanks for the answer.
The video is just great !!
hello a question, the values you introduce in cli, to what scale does it belong? metrics? Uk ??? etc
For example in altitude rth you put 7000 but 7000meters,7000 feet....
Thank you!
The rth altitude is measured in centimeters, so 7000 is actually 70m. The other values are measured in degrees
Thanks men! Good videos!!
so the lunch mode works as you have to switch this on, throw the model and then switch off and take control ?
You switch on launch mode, arm the aircraft and then set the throttle to 60-80%. Then you throw the aircraft into the air, at which point the motor should kick in and the aircraft will then climb. To take back control of the aircraft all you have to do is move one of the sticks. You dont have to switch off the mode
Giz is the L9r directly compatible with a standard taranis x9d plus like one with no additional modules on the back?
Yup, should be. So long as your Taranis has the latest firmware and supports LR12 mode, it will work without the need for any modules or upgrades
Sweeeeeeet!......LR12?
how to put near a window to get gps signal?
How did you hit the 125mm C of G? I've just built mine with the same sort of setup, but it wants 130 grms of lead in camera bay with a Runcam Eagle and a GoPro! Seems outrageous to me.
That does seem like a lot of extra weight. Do you have a especially big motor at the back?
Thanks for getting back to me Giz. No, a little 29 grm DYS 2205, (but I've extended it 15mm with some aluminium standoffs), plus a 20A airplane ESC in the provided cavity and a cheap 2200 mAH 3S battery right up front. Seems similar to every video I've watched but nobody else seems to have a problem with the CG.
Having the motor mounted on standoffs won't help anything. You'd be surprised how much easier it will be to balance the wing if you mount the motor directly onto the airframe. The S800 in this video was built for a friend, my personal S800 is very different. I use a small Littlebee 30a racequad ESC in mine, and having such a light ESC makes it so much easier to balance. Only have 70g of nose weight on mine. I'd suggest getting rid of the standoffs, and if that still doesnt help put a smaller esc in if possible
Cheers Giz, I agree. Replacing the ESC with a 30A Opto and an SBEC under the canopy. The standoffs were to reduce the noise but I'll dump them. Cheers
anyone got backup file for f3 omnibus ? just flashed mine without one lol
Where did you get the Carbon fiber Tape?
vsem privet ribiata uminia vapros kvam S800 V2 build - Omnibus F4 pro vsio nastroil vsio zdelal no nikak ne armit probuval inav mator krutitsa ili ne vsio rabotaet no armit ne xochit vchomzhe prablema spasiba vsem zarania .
Привет! Чтоб заармился мотор нужно чтоб самолет стоял горизонтально и было более 6 спутников GPS. если не хочешь ждать GPS, то в CLI вбей команду set nav_extra_arming_safety = OFF и потом сохрани настройку командой safe
For some reason when I plugged in my system today it started smoking. I did not use pdb cause the fc comes with a voltage regulator. Any ideas?
Derrick Mitchell What FC was it? My first guess would be that you overloaded the regulator, but without knowing how you wired things together it's hard to say
Giz FPV I got the power hook up off Rag The Nuts Off channel. He shows how to power it up and how to do a Y connection to share the neutral from the FC.
Great video. I got a omnibus F3 , but have a problem to flash it. Does the red light dim a little when you put it in bootloade mode or disapear the red light ?
Jan Iversen I can't remember for sure, but I believe the LEDs stay on, dim a little and stop flashing
OK, Thank you. Mine does it, but i can not flash it. Don`t find it in beta,clean or inav
What happens when you try and flash it? Have you installed Zadig or ImpulseRC driver?
I have Zadig in my PC, but i have tryed the Impulse RC driver. It does not seem to find a com port. Does the Impulse RC driver need to search for a long time? Tryed 2 diffrent USB cables also. ( the red light on the FC dim when it is in bootloader mode)
Make sure you start ImpulseRC drive BEFORE you plug in the usb. Also might be worth trying a different usb cable
4.20 min your video/
Check on the picture where you connected 3 servo.( to 2)
Yeah somebody pointed out that mistake in one of the earlier comments. Unfortunately no way I can ammend it
what was its cost
hi, what kind of video editing that youre using?
Hitfilm express and windows movie maker
You use 24 AWG wire ?
Can you help me?
How did you rotate the controller in the settings INAV?
Yaw ? 90? 180?
Thanks.
On Inav, go to the configuration tab and then scroll down to 'board and sensor alignment', and then yes, change the yaw value
I'm doing it i.
But I can not turn right in any way ( in YAW).I do not know what values need to write!
Try 90 degrees, if that does not work try 180, and if that still doesn't work try 270
Aha !!
The required value is 270.
Thank you so much!! :)
What's with these hobbyist using a lighter rather than a heat gun? Is $10+ electricity really that expensive? Just curious.
Is £10 + electricty really necessary, when a 30p lighter does just as good a job? :p
Is OmnibusF3 something you can recommend for S800?
Absolutely! I've had one in my s800 for almost a year and it's never let me down
Thanks! Then I will use it and maybe later I will get mateks f405 wing. The Omnibus F3 (mine is v1.1) has no problem when everything is connected? Receiver, SmartPort, GPS, LEDs?
Not had any problem with mine. Just make sure your servos, vtx and camera get their power from a pdb of external bec and you should be fine
I have a small buck module for servos; camera and vtx are powered from battery directly, should be fine then :)
У нас в России это называется тяп - ляп и готово! :)
what the max speed you have had with this wing on 4s?
Darin Pesnell around 130-140kph, but I rarely do speed runs. Most the time I fly slow to prolong battery for long endurance flights. Might be able to fly faster for all I know
Цhy do we need the AIRMODE on the wing?
Having airmode enabled keeps the self leveling working at zero throttle (when you're gliding). Without airmode, when you go to zero throttle you lose stabilization
Keeps the PIFF controller active so that you have control while gliding.
Dude do u mind sharing the pid for s800?
Mohammad Nizam If you follow the inav settings in the video you'll see I use the z84 preset on inav. I use the default pids that come with that preset
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What GPS is that?
What trasmitter did you use??
FrSKY Taranis QX7
Did you can to make a video of how to configure the radio control, please??
yaw -90 or 90?
If you have the flight controller orientated the same way it is in the video, 90
@@gizfpv
Can I use -90? because if you use -90 pitch front anda back is correct
Why didn't you connect a rssi?
godz320 RSSI doesn't work with the L9R and omnibus f3
I'm sorry, you have omnibus f3. it doesn't have analog RSSI input.
I am only starting out with flight controllers, but I am pretty sure I spotted an article where they used put the analog rssi to a current pad and altered something in cli. Does that make any sense? My f3 and L9R have just arrived and I am trying to get my head around it all! Great video by the way!!
And you could not collect me. I would buy from you.
You calibrated incorrectly!!! It " MUST be done referenced to the marked orientation on the board". Many people make this mistake.
github.com/iNavFlight/inav/wiki/Sensor-calibration
Paul Arscott it was done correctly! If you look closely you'll see that when I install the FC into the wing the usb is facing forwards. The usb is on the 'front' side of the FC. I only did a mock calibration for reference purposes anyway, did the proper calibration before installing the FC in the aircraft, and recommended people do the same in the video
grahame addicott ok but its not evident you adjusted for the 90° FC rotation when calibrating. Many just go to the wiki and use the diagram forgetting about the board marked orientation.
Yeah, I followed the tutorial step by step, my fc is also 90 degrees rotated, and calibrated when already installed and rotated, this was 2 days ago, until today reading the wiki I didnt know what happened to my wing, never can take off, it was obviously going crazy in the air. I would put an annotation on the video, or explanation on the description, awesome video anyway.
11:18
I have installed the same FC, should i fix 90 degree orientation then calibrate with the front as front or should i calibrate for how the board is originally aligned?