Pro Tip: PMs need to be hella buff, so other people do what they tell them to do. It's not rare to see PMs challenging other leads and managers to the gym in a battle for dominance. For Joma, he's not buff enough to be a PM. I am buff enough but I get paid more as a SWE.
I have a different trick. When I ask others to do something, while I explain the task they see that I could do it but have no time, because I work on stuff I can't explain. But I am there to help and *if they fail, I take the blame from the management and fix their errors,* because it is my bad that I misjudged their abilities. But I am not a "PM" of course. But you are right, I have met a buff-type guy last time, he was the "Development Director" or what. In a minute I realized that he is the king of the gym but has no idea what I talk about. He was so surprised that his shape and management power was not enough to convince me about anything... :-D
Don't be totally insane. Of course part 2 was coming! What kind of a mentally insane, psychotic, deranged individual would think to suggest to Joma "Part 2 would be nice?" You have answered that question. It's you.
Wow this video really helped! I want to do data sciences out of university and hopefully transition to a PM role. Really informative. One of my favourite videos from you joma!
@@tekiero Because technical job can be done by another graduate but Management is unique to that individual personality. You can replace an Apple engineer but NOT Steve Jobs 🙂 Its just the fact that everyone can be trained to become a software developer but NOT everyone will be able to manage to do good as product manager.
Two things that I would love to watch from Joma - 1. A question on at least one specific project that the interviewee participated in. 2. An interview with someone who is NOT from a data analytics background. Maybe pick someone who's worked on hardware or something. That'll give a bigger picture of the industry. This was a good interview btw!
@@Zeegoner what? you're trying way to hard to troll. You should probably take it easy, the effort you're going through isnt going to bring attention to your botted channel
You need to edit the audio track. There's a lot of white background noise. You can edit that sound out with a cutoff filter. It would make videos a lot better. Let me know if you need any help.
@@magick2006 THANKS KANEY. ACTUALLY I recently completed My Masters and I am confused in Data Science and software Engineer which is better. I see all the Joma videos but now he is shifting to the software Engineer. So I think software Engineer is better than Data Scientist.
Tools are super interesting. I like to think of myself as a tools guy. You, on the other hand, are a tool, and thus are beneath me, so I am glad that Joma has totally disregarded your childish requests.
"How do you create a better camera ?" Wow Joma, well done, brilliant on point question, and at the perfect time. I literally clapped aloud when you asked that. I felt ecstatic because as soon as Sanjay said "How do you build a better camera" I had started thinking of what I would say and immediately had doubts about reverse engineering and patents and working up from common base product to avoid patent infringement by far, etc, and hence saw the solid hope in getting these answered.
I guess what he meant is that alot of times he might come up with the idea and actually coordinate the people to make it a reality. He is obviously not the engineer actually coding but he follow every step of the way and feels the same fullfilment from getting it done.
Part 2 would be sweet love the content! Also less uh-huhs/yeahs if possible while the interviewee is giving their answer. I know it's probably awkward to sit there in silence while the person talks, but it puts more of a focus on the answer and is less distracting/a better experience for the audience.
A problem with data science is that the culture doesn't allow for men to perform helicopter moves in the office. SWE allows ample room and facilities where people can helicopter inside of glass enclosures. It really is the new ping pong table in rec rooms, and really is a 10x to the work life.
This dude literally looks like Rami Malek haha. (Someone else already said this, but I had to point it out as well) This was super interesting, good video.
Hi Joma! Can you talk about what’s it like being an Asian working as a software engineer in the US? I’ve heard horror stories where Asian Software engineer waking up 5 years later and is still a junior. Is the bamboo ceiling a real thing?
He hopes to be somebody that a lady can love and look up to, with tears of joy in her eyes on the rare occasion, under the stars on a cool night, while she snuggles up to him and slowly kisses him on her own Accord.
Awesome interview! My goal this year was to transition from software project management to Product Management either internally, or through the Google/FB/MS rotational programs. After almost a year of studying and research it feels like unless you're either graduating from an Ivy League school or have a strong referral, there's no way in. I'm so stuck...
@@rahultherash It's funny you commented on this. I failed my PM interview a couple weeks ago at one of those big companies I had mentioned. I was so close. 😭
@@Elluzive Recently I have seen many Software engineers and Data scientist transitioning to Product manager roles. Can you give me a perspective on this.
@Joma this is really helping me decide. I am currently a PM intern at Microsoft and have had many SWE internships but Im still struggling to answer what I should start as. I really like to hear more about Facebook RPM role in comparison to others.
Another way to break into PM is working in Customer Success! There are a lot of Customer Success Associate positions that are very entry-level. Work your way to become a Customer Success Manager, then switch to PM.
or the Marketing route. Start as a marketing coordinator then work towards a Marketing Manager and switch to PM. Would help if you got some coding certs on the side
Honestly PM is an over glorified profession and it's extremely tiring to please all your business partners, and at the end of it all you don't build the product and every single time you launch a product it's not as rewarding as someone who has actually designed or coded the damn thing
Are you testing your audience by flashing that part 2 message only for a second at the end? (I guess you did the whole interview) :-) Upload it, the guy is fine and mentioned important points of "management". Still interested in his opinion about Bob Martin's problem in case you asked.
Can you ask him to break down and show 1-2 scenarios from his previous roles as a PM and how he approached those scenarios? Do they ask technical questions during PM interviews? Does he give reviews of people on his team? How does he review? How does he handle uncertainty and pressure in a PM role? Some examples would be great. What is his recommendation for college students wanting to make a career as a PM? TIA! :)
ChocolateAndMath 1. I don’t understand your first question, sorry. 2. It depends on the role. For a technical PM, yes you will be asked technical question. But if the PM role is for a product that is more customer facing, then the questions are typically about your approach and thought process for solving problems and collaborating with your various team members. 3. Agile best practice is that at the end of each dev sprint, you have a retrospective. In a retro you as a team talk about what went well, what could have gone better, and action items. 4. Being prepared and doing the “grind” are probably the most important parts with dealing with the pressures of being a PM. If you are prepared, then there is less uncertainty. If you have put in the work and done your research then your team is prepared which helps them ship sooner. 5. My recommendation for college to get into product would be computer science. This seems to be what a lot of tech companies are looking for these days. Next would be business. When you’re a PM you have to understand the business and financial side of the product to do your job well and to understand if a product will ever break even or be profitable. I went to school for business, but I had no idea I was going to be a PM. I know the answers aren’t from the guy in the video, but I hope that helps.
4:23 I don't get why people get upset about that. Its youtube darnit. Sure some of the comments, like that no fap, is like wtf lol. But honestly, that comment was what actually made that video memorable. I really liked your relaxed interaction with others, its kinda refreshing to watch. But I guess if you want to keep things professional, you could try adjusting and sticking to the script. But that's boring af mahn. It's like watching a university professor that reads the slides. Might as well just upload the script. Just be you, Joma. People shouldn't be expecting an intense job-level interview on a youtube channel anyway
Interesting talk, very insightful. However, the crappy sound quality (lots of echos) made it hard to listen. Come on Joma, where was the mojo powers here? :)
Has anyone realised that Joma rarely looks the guest in the eyes when he's talking to them? He's always looking at the table or his laptop and it makes me feel hella awkward watching these
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Pro Tip: PMs need to be hella buff, so other people do what they tell them to do. It's not rare to see PMs challenging other leads and managers to the gym in a battle for dominance. For Joma, he's not buff enough to be a PM. I am buff enough but I get paid more as a SWE.
Pokémon Masters also require around 8 gym badges for respect.
To be a good PM you have to look like a perfect being.
@@Music4DaSol XD
I have a different trick. When I ask others to do something, while I explain the task they see that I could do it but have no time, because I work on stuff I can't explain. But I am there to help and *if they fail, I take the blame from the management and fix their errors,* because it is my bad that I misjudged their abilities. But I am not a "PM" of course.
But you are right, I have met a buff-type guy last time, he was the "Development Director" or what. In a minute I realized that he is the king of the gym but has no idea what I talk about. He was so surprised that his shape and management power was not enough to convince me about anything... :-D
I thought you get paid for being ex Google techlead!
RPM = Rotational Product Manager at Facebook
APM = Associate Product Manager at
Part2: ruclips.net/video/FqBvTFhS1ig/видео.html
I want part 2 ;)
What happened to today's Live meet up ??
17:46 the moment joma realizes he didn't plug the mic
"You can say the truth. I'll just edit all the bad stuff" *instantly cuts to the next question*
Part 2 would be nice. Good video!
Don't be totally insane. Of course part 2 was coming! What kind of a mentally insane, psychotic, deranged individual would think to suggest to Joma "Part 2 would be nice?" You have answered that question. It's you.
This interview was super helpful to me. I didn't really understand what a PM was for software. Also I need to get buff.
LMFAO wasn't expecting to see you here. You going full SWE, UXE or PM brah?
wow, I liked him a lot since cooking class vid, plz interview with Arielle or Elton next :D
Wow this video really helped! I want to do data sciences out of university and hopefully transition to a PM role. Really informative. One of my favourite videos from you joma!
Yes, part 2!
Watch your mouth
Nice. Love to see part 2
Love is a powerful word, Mr. Zhu
it's so much easier to move up in the world in management rather than being technical
why
@@tekiero Because technical job can be done by another graduate but Management is unique to that individual personality.
You can replace an Apple engineer but NOT Steve Jobs 🙂
Its just the fact that everyone can be trained to become a software developer but NOT everyone will be able to manage to do good as product manager.
@@rahultherash it`s easy for talented people. Not everyone is Steve Jobs, but we see a lot of software engineers.
@@rahultherash You're underestimating engineers a bit too much. Steve Jobs example is a very extreme one.
@@rahultherash lol everyone can't become a software engineer lmfaoooo
Part 2 please!
Don't ask for things from strangers. You never know what dangerous items they might have
Part 2 please...Thank you.
There is a part 2 btw
got Joma tech interview series advertisement in Joma tech video ROFL
@Joma, where do I get the mug that you are using?
Holy cow been waiting for this guy for the longest; he is so cool
Two things that I would love to watch from Joma -
1. A question on at least one specific project that the interviewee participated in.
2. An interview with someone who is NOT from a data analytics background. Maybe pick someone who's worked on hardware or something. That'll give a bigger picture of the industry.
This was a good interview btw!
Your demands are childish. I hope you have grown from this behavior
@@Zeegoner what? you're trying way to hard to troll. You should probably take it easy, the effort you're going through isnt going to bring attention to your botted channel
We would like a Part 2 Joma
Yes please, but with better audio quality 🤔🤷♂️
You are deaf. I hate deaf people
do interview with a Scrum Master from FANG next!
Gosh he looks like Rami Malek's brother XD
Oh gosh I was about to comment this xD
Wow, so Elliot Anderson's now a Product Manager? I guess Cybersecurity Engineer is a really stressing job lol
You need to edit the audio track. There's a lot of white background noise. You can edit that sound out with a cutoff filter. It would make videos a lot better. Let me know if you need any help.
Hey totally random but, are you preparing for the GRE?
@@chocolateandmath497 hahaha
Yes a part 2 plss
Plss is an inappropriate racial slur in Tech circles. Watch it.
Id really appreciate a part 2
Your appreciation is worthless to Joma. Of course a part 2 was coming. Your suggestion is juvenile and, like a dog, you are unaware of it.
Hell Yeah, we want Part 2
Watch the language
more about Product Management please! (e.g. day in the life, differences between companies)
I like to watch part 2
Did anyone actually count the number of times the word "like" was told !?!?!!! Just out of curiosity
Hello Sir
I have a question.
which Language you can use now these days as a software engineer.
@@magick2006 THANKS KANEY.
ACTUALLY I recently completed My Masters and I am confused in Data Science and software Engineer which is better.
I see all the Joma videos but now he is shifting to the software Engineer.
So I think software Engineer is better than Data Scientist.
Quateenus
@Joma Can you please interview a Back-end developer or a Software Tools developer next?
Tools are super interesting. I like to think of myself as a tools guy. You, on the other hand, are a tool, and thus are beneath me, so I am glad that Joma has totally disregarded your childish requests.
Part 2!!!
That's really cool since I wanna get into PM. or be CEO this video really helpful thank you guys.
CEO? Wooaahhh there let's not get crazy there buddy
"How do you create a better camera ?" Wow Joma, well done, brilliant on point question, and at the perfect time. I literally clapped aloud when you asked that. I felt ecstatic because as soon as Sanjay said "How do you build a better camera" I had started thinking of what I would say and immediately had doubts about reverse engineering and patents and working up from common base product to avoid patent infringement by far, etc, and hence saw the solid hope in getting these answered.
Hey @Joma .. next interview with a Deep learning engineer from facebook ..please...
please do consider an interview with Elton from your previous video..
@@kima1767 Elton John?
Joma I’m digging your mug
Don't go there, Deb...
a PM is building things? I don't think so
I guess what he meant is that alot of times he might come up with the idea and actually coordinate the people to make it a reality. He is obviously not the engineer actually coding but he follow every step of the way and feels the same fullfilment from getting it done.
Then would a VP of Product build things?
part 2 joma we want it
Joma, please do an interview with Elton.. we miss him, who's with me??
Audio track was "noisy"
It was really easy to get to the end of this video without losing interest, thanks guys!
I was impressed at how easy it was too! Really appreciate it too!
ya i figured it out 30 seconds in. this guy can speak english, which is in stark contrast to most of your interviewees.
want part2
He's finally getting everyone from the cook off video..!n
I miss Elton... who's with me?
*Cock off
Part 2 would be sweet love the content! Also less uh-huhs/yeahs if possible while the interviewee is giving their answer. I know it's probably awkward to sit there in silence while the person talks, but it puts more of a focus on the answer and is less distracting/a better experience for the audience.
You got a part 2 lined up, don't tease us hahahah! gimme dat shit
Yo is this dude kinda cute or is it just me 😳
Bloke looks like Karl Conrad
The sound reverb is a bit distracting
It's Chinese reverb so that's self-hating racism. Please be considerate
Why did you personally move from data science to software engineering?
A problem with data science is that the culture doesn't allow for men to perform helicopter moves in the office. SWE allows ample room and facilities where people can helicopter inside of glass enclosures. It really is the new ping pong table in rec rooms, and really is a 10x to the work life.
This dude literally looks like Rami Malek haha. (Someone else already said this, but I had to point it out as well)
This was super interesting, good video.
Hi Joma! Can you talk about what’s it like being an Asian working as a software engineer in the US? I’ve heard horror stories where Asian Software engineer waking up 5 years later and is still a junior. Is the bamboo ceiling a real thing?
rip audio
For P2 can you ask about PM career trajectory? Where does he hope to be in 5-15 years?
He hopes to be somebody that a lady can love and look up to, with tears of joy in her eyes on the rare occasion, under the stars on a cool night, while she snuggles up to him and slowly kisses him on her own Accord.
Thought it was vitruvianphysique in the thumbnail
Want
Yes, ability to EXECUTE with speed is so critical...it gives you more cycle to iterate, and test new ideas. Great insights!
joma will be technical and non-technical at the same time, bruh he is perfect not even kidding
Awesome interview! My goal this year was to transition from software project management to Product Management either internally, or through the Google/FB/MS rotational programs. After almost a year of studying and research it feels like unless you're either graduating from an Ivy League school or have a strong referral, there's no way in. I'm so stuck...
Why you want Transition from Tech to management? Any specific reasons ? Money , interest , Career progression?
@@rahultherash It's funny you commented on this. I failed my PM interview a couple weeks ago at one of those big companies I had mentioned. I was so close. 😭
@@Elluzive Recently I have seen many Software engineers and Data scientist transitioning to Product manager roles. Can you give me a perspective on this.
@@rahultherashDo not ask inappropriate questions on this comment thread, 1 year ago. I am mod
@Joma this is really helping me decide. I am currently a PM intern at Microsoft and have had many SWE internships but Im still struggling to answer what I should start as. I really like to hear more about Facebook RPM role in comparison to others.
Facebook + Amazon + Nio + Google = FANG
Another way to break into PM is working in Customer Success! There are a lot of Customer Success Associate positions that are very entry-level. Work your way to become a Customer Success Manager, then switch to PM.
or the Marketing route. Start as a marketing coordinator then work towards a Marketing Manager and switch to PM. Would help if you got some coding certs on the side
Or as a Teenus Representative. Usually you'll be able to use your Teenus skills as a PM, which will really set you apart in the interview process.
We would all like to be like this man, He is optimized. He is Elite. But few of us will be able to do it. So sad.
I interviewed for a L4 PM position at FAANG and the TC quoted was around 230ish
Honestly PM is an over glorified profession and it's extremely tiring to please all your business partners, and at the end of it all you don't build the product and every single time you launch a product it's not as rewarding as someone who has actually designed or coded the damn thing
@@boostftw123 did you serve as a PM?
Are you testing your audience by flashing that part 2 message only for a second at the end? (I guess you did the whole interview) :-) Upload it, the guy is fine and mentioned important points of "management". Still interested in his opinion about Bob Martin's problem in case you asked.
anybody know if Python reptile or snake ?
It's a Joey shobeson
Can you ask him to break down and show 1-2 scenarios from his previous roles as a PM and how he approached those scenarios?
Do they ask technical questions during PM interviews?
Does he give reviews of people on his team? How does he review?
How does he handle uncertainty and pressure in a PM role? Some examples would be great.
What is his recommendation for college students wanting to make a career as a PM?
TIA! :)
ChocolateAndMath
1. I don’t understand your first question, sorry.
2. It depends on the role. For a technical PM, yes you will be asked technical question. But if the PM role is for a product that is more customer facing, then the questions are typically about your approach and thought process for solving problems and collaborating with your various team members.
3. Agile best practice is that at the end of each dev sprint, you have a retrospective. In a retro you as a team talk about what went well, what could have gone better, and action items.
4. Being prepared and doing the “grind” are probably the most important parts with dealing with the pressures of being a PM. If you are prepared, then there is less uncertainty. If you have put in the work and done your research then your team is prepared which helps them ship sooner.
5. My recommendation for college to get into product would be computer science. This seems to be what a lot of tech companies are looking for these days. Next would be business. When you’re a PM you have to understand the business and financial side of the product to do your job well and to understand if a product will ever break even or be profitable. I went to school for business, but I had no idea I was going to be a PM.
I know the answers aren’t from the guy in the video, but I hope that helps.
I can tell he lays the pipe
More like the peepee
What is his name?
He says Sanjay
Subtitle says Andre
Lmao
what's his full name ??
@@jaysable3182 sanjay padval
What's his name.. Didn't get it
Summary: to be a good PM you have to look like a perfect being!!!
Let's not get crazy. His face is stinky in person according to SEC filings
Give me salary or riot
Data Scientist from a FANG please!
Joma could just interview himself then lol
@@shweezy Literally :D
he doesnt have a adam's apple, he has adam's face
4:23 I don't get why people get upset about that. Its youtube darnit. Sure some of the comments, like that no fap, is like wtf lol. But honestly, that comment was what actually made that video memorable. I really liked your relaxed interaction with others, its kinda refreshing to watch. But I guess if you want to keep things professional, you could try adjusting and sticking to the script. But that's boring af mahn. It's like watching a university professor that reads the slides. Might as well just upload the script. Just be you, Joma. People shouldn't be expecting an intense job-level interview on a youtube channel anyway
bad sound
Always dusting the table.
Interview with Eltontian next.
The first half of the interview: www.linkedin.com/in/sanjay-padval-45500736/
Interesting talk, very insightful. However, the crappy sound quality (lots of echos) made it hard to listen.
Come on Joma, where was the mojo powers here? :)
As always, *AMAZING* content. Looking to grow my small RUclips channel of 55 subscribers. Your videos definitely keep me going!
damn he's hot
First. Always
How old are you?
Get your personal voice based youtube assistant app. Just say ok google talk to my youtuber channel..
"No views
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what's this guys name though?
Sanjay
Has anyone realised that Joma rarely looks the guest in the eyes when he's talking to them? He's always looking at the table or his laptop and it makes me feel hella awkward watching these
15 minutes???
who's still coding on 7/4?
This guy hits the gym 24/7
For 2 veins lmao
Impossible. I will ban you if you lie like this again
Audio Mic on the guest needs improvement, his voice is echoey; sometimes couldn't hear 100% what he was saying.
kk bro
Mark Zuckerberg,
Sundar Pichai,
Susan Wojcicki,
Jack Dorsey,
We 4 promise to restore this "temple of tolerance" to its former glory.
Therefore, beginning today, each employee will submit themselves...
for evaluation.
But know this: you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide.
If you are a Christian, let us know.
If you are a conservative, let us know.
If you are a patriot, let us know.
If you are a Trump supporter, definately let us know.
If you believe in the US Constitution and "Bill of Rights", please, let us know.
Sounds quality is really bad.
I thought the acronym was FAGMA (facebook, apple, google, microsoft, amazon)
15th.
Ughh
Mic quality is trash
What’s that guy’s Insta?
How much does he earn?
Eaeniezi is an exotic number that happens to be the amount he earns
Shit this dude is buff asf
DoomERA 😑
Don't say shit