My favourite contradictions by Mrs. Bennet are when she contradicts what she's saying in the very moment by behaving in opposition to it. Such as when she promises to be true to her word to never speak to Elizabeth again (after her refusal of Mr. Collins), while continuing to talk to her many sentences after. Or when she says about some subject I forget, that she'll never talk to any soul about it, and then says that she said the exact same thing to Mrs. Phillips the other day (that she wouldn't mention the subject to anyone again), so this moment of the conversation we're reading, contradicting what she said to Mrs. Phillips, and what she is saying now, by bringing up the topic again.
Thank you so much for sharing this video with us all 🌠🙌🏻I’m a huge Jane Austen fan so this makes me so happy . I love John mullan too thank you Lizzie 🤎🍁🌠✨
Mrs Bennet is consistent in that she needs everything to work in her favor. As far as Mr Darcy goes, the original reason she didn't like him was that he snubbed her Lizzy. Elizabeth may not be her favorite but she will not tolerate a man, even an important rich man, looking down on her.
She reminds me of my grandmother and I absolutely love my grandmother. In effect I understand what Mrs Bennet rightly worries about even in her ridiculous way.
@@KPT437 While Professor Mullan was talking about the fact that one of Mrs. Bennet's statements about Mr. Darcy (essentially, that although she didn't like him, a friend of Mr. Bingley's would always be welcome), could easily have come out of Lizzie's mouth, I found myself wondering if Lizzie's liveliness came from her mother, even though Lizzie is so different from her mother in other ways.
Lovely man I saw him at the hey festival signing books when ' what matters in Jane Austen ' He was soo lovely chatting to everyone in such a animated way that I joined the queue so I could say hello to him Quite a few of his lectures are on RUclips and he's always a delight to watch
Yes, Prof. Mullan is an absolute delight. He teaches me to cut Mrs. Bennet some slack (she is more absurdity than monster) and points out so many subtle aspects of the book that the uninitiated 16-year-old would miss on the first reading. Discussions like this make me wish I'd followed a career in literature.
Jane was a great observer of human nature and human behavior. I have read P & P the best and have read it several times. My second favorite being Mansfield Park.
It's not my favorite, but Emma is JA's perfect child. P&P and Persuasion are loveable but sometimes difficult children. Who doesn't unconditionally love the brilliant prodigal or the baby of the family? Where did Jane herself fit in? And yes, John Mullan is brilliant.
The novel Emma was the one that I struggled to get through while struggling to not throw the book at the wall. Emma's personality and character bothered me a lot. Poor Harriet, so innocent and easily pleased unfortunate to have become friends with such a twit.
Love to hear John Mullion talking on Jane Austen I too have heard him in person on online many times If he talks again Can you ask him to tell you what he knows about Janes Father ..... In my mind I now see someone like John himself Immensely proud of Jane
Listening to these characters speak out so definitely at the first bit of evidence, and them contradict themselves at the second scrap of information - it is as if they're all trying to be British (aha! Is THAT what Jane Austen is teasing about?) We must be perfect people, and part of that is having perfect and complete knowledge because we are the masters of our colonial Empire, so at the first opportunity we will judge and announce our decisions. We don't want to be children, we want to be adults - closed-minded and sure of ourselves - That will make a good impression on the marriage market. [Note that the author of this comment is English, too.] So contradiction in particular scenes comes from living inside a greater context of carefully not observing oneself.
It's usually a toss up between Jane and the Brontes for me. When i want to cry and take kife seriously give me the Brontes. When I want to laugh give me Austen. But the older i get I see that Jane saw the tears also but like her "i dearly love a laugh" and after all that makes life easier to bear
You don't mention what I think is the most blatant contradiction in P&P: Darcy's saying that once his good opinion of someone is lost, it is lost forever!
But he NEVER lost his good opinion of Lizzie, if that is what you're suggesting. He made his case to Lizzie, mended his own ways, and hoped things down the road might improve. He didn't change his mind about Wickham, but he adjusted as was indicated. IF you're mentioning his first impression of her from the initial assembly, that impression was built on little but appearance and his assessment of her likely status in society. As soon as he was in her presence a few times, the appeal of her wit and character (when viewed in light of her smile and physical attractions) became obvious.
@@kevinrussell-jp6om You are right. He could not have lost his good opinion of Lizzie because he never had one to start with. Still, Darcy's proclamation is rather pompous, and does not endear him to me.
@@yon8378 Yes, Darcy has flaws/warts. He is pompous, and Americans of a certain type will have trouble warming to him. We have a much easier time identifying with a guy like Captain Wentworth, or with Gabe Oak in Far From the Madding Crowd. Darcy is proud and Upper Crust.
@@smgpoetryarts Yet in Chapter 5 we find, "“Are you quite sure, ma’am? Is not there a little mistake?” said Jane. “I certainly saw Mr. Darcy speaking to her.” and "“Another time, Lizzy,” said her mother, “I would not dance with him, if I were you.” “I believe, ma’am, I may safely promise you never to dance with him.” In Chapter 19 there is "“Dear ma’am, do not go. I beg you will not go. Mr. Collins must excuse me."
My favourite adaptation, which yieIds the most definitive EIizabeth [EIizabeth Garvie] aIso yieIds the most probIematic Darcy [RintouI] makes EIizabeth's change her mind He does not smiIe enough and the portrait at PemberIey is misconceived]. The best Mr. Darcy is sadIy no Ionger extant. It was AIan BadeI who does smiIe and renders some of Darcy's mosr provocative remarks credibIe and eventuaIIy persuasive. I remember his smiIe and voice when he remarks that 'Dancing is aImost over-rated accompIishments , it is in vogue amongst Iess poIished societies Every Savage can dance.' We know he is speaking epigramaticaIIy .. If you want to get some idea of the of the dramatic tension between EIizabeth' and Darcy try to find AIan BadeI in a scene from a BBC production of the WinsIow Boy' pIaying opposite MicheIe Dotrice. The finaI scene reveaIs the attraction of WinsIow's daughter and Sir Robert [in truth Carson] and his trying to conceaI his vuInerabiIity. It is a moving scene but it dispIays some of the quaIities that BadeI brough to Darcy. and come to think of it MicheIe Dotrice wouId have been a very credibIe EIizabeth. Another reveIation of what EIizabeth true thinks of Mr Darcy comes in the scene that John MuIIen mentioned mentions at the piano at Rosings when she says to CoIoneI FitzwiIIiam' shaII we as your cousin how it is possibIe for a man of sense of education finds it difficuIt to recommend himseIf to strangers?'[this is for memory I do not think it is an exact quote but the gist'] If I have one criticism of the adaptation afore said it is when at the piano Darcy remarks about her expressing opinions that are not in fact her own she' Iaughs heartiIy' 'and it is reveaIing of the deeper, more private EIizabeth but in this adaptation she does not but the Iaugh shouId be hearty and it is interesting. Darcy has penetrated her secret and that is attractive to her. So few peopIe divined it
Anyone who uses a Monty Python reference in a Jane Austen lecture is marvelous! ❤😂
My favourite contradictions by Mrs. Bennet are when she contradicts what she's saying in the very moment by behaving in opposition to it. Such as when she promises to be true to her word to never speak to Elizabeth again (after her refusal of Mr. Collins), while continuing to talk to her many sentences after. Or when she says about some subject I forget, that she'll never talk to any soul about it, and then says that she said the exact same thing to Mrs. Phillips the other day (that she wouldn't mention the subject to anyone again), so this moment of the conversation we're reading, contradicting what she said to Mrs. Phillips, and what she is saying now, by bringing up the topic again.
Thank you, Lizzie and the rest of the Jane Austen House Museum, for putting this online for everyone! Much appreciated.
Thank you so much for sharing this video with us all 🌠🙌🏻I’m a huge Jane Austen fan so this makes me so happy . I love John mullan too thank you Lizzie 🤎🍁🌠✨
What a pleasure to hear the thoughts of someone so learned and passionate. Thank you.
Thank you so much for letting us all hear his lecture! I could listen to John Mullan talk about Jane Austen for hours.
Thank you I am enjoying and love listening John Mullan talk about Jane Austen .❤
Yes , me too , he is very passionate.
That ‘Jane Austen’s Monsters’ lecture sounds incredibly interesting. I’d love to see that turned into another book so we could all access/read it.
Mrs Bennet is consistent in that she needs everything to work in her favor. As far as Mr Darcy goes, the original reason she didn't like him was that he snubbed her Lizzy. Elizabeth may not be her favorite but she will not tolerate a man, even an important rich man, looking down on her.
She reminds me of my grandmother and I absolutely love my grandmother. In effect I understand what Mrs Bennet rightly worries about even in her ridiculous way.
@@KPT437 While Professor Mullan was talking about the fact that one of Mrs. Bennet's statements about Mr. Darcy (essentially, that although she didn't like him, a friend of Mr. Bingley's would always be welcome), could easily have come out of Lizzie's mouth, I found myself wondering if Lizzie's liveliness came from her mother, even though Lizzie is so different from her mother in other ways.
Lovely man
I saw him at the hey festival signing books when
' what matters in Jane Austen '
He was soo lovely chatting to everyone in such a animated way that I joined the queue so I could say hello to him
Quite a few of his lectures are on RUclips and he's always a delight to watch
Yes, Prof. Mullan is an absolute delight. He teaches me to cut Mrs. Bennet some slack (she is more absurdity than monster) and points out so many subtle aspects of the book that the uninitiated 16-year-old would miss on the first reading. Discussions like this make me wish I'd followed a career in literature.
@@kevinrussell-jp6om He seems to have so much joy to share.
I've watched him speak at Hay Festival via RUclips. Very entertaining talk.
Jane was a great observer of human nature and human behavior. I have read P & P the best and have read it several times. My second favorite being Mansfield Park.
Yes and Fanny was right about Henry Crawford
Next treat from Professor Mullan is his address to the September 2023 Bath Festival on “Blushing in Jane Austen’s works”. 😃👍
It was one of the chapters in ‘What Matters in Jane Austen?’, which was a great read.
I LOVE John Mullan! Thank you for posting this!!! And YES Emma is my favorite too! It is my favorite novel. 💗
Emma is my favourite as well. ❤
It's not my favorite, but Emma is JA's perfect child. P&P and Persuasion are loveable but sometimes difficult children. Who doesn't unconditionally love the brilliant prodigal or the baby of the family?
Where did Jane herself fit in?
And yes, John Mullan is brilliant.
I'm looking forward to this lecture. Thank you for sharing it with other Jane Austen's fans.
This is so fantastic, thank you so much
This was so enjoyable!!!
Thank you!
Thank you so much for sharing this.
Thank you for posting this on RUclips!! I really enjoyed the talk
Wow, it is so amazing. Thank you
I love mrs. Bennet
The novel Emma was the one that I struggled to get through while struggling to not throw the book at the wall. Emma's personality and character bothered me a lot. Poor Harriet, so innocent and easily pleased unfortunate to have become friends with such a twit.
Love to hear John Mullion talking on Jane Austen
I too have heard him in person on online many times
If he talks again
Can you ask him to tell you what he knows about Janes Father
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In my mind I now see someone like John himself
Immensely proud of Jane
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John's signature place holding "aaaaannndd" 🤓😆
Thank you🙏
Mr Bennett, fave character, "such an odd mixture . . ."
Brilliant! Thank you! 🙂
Listening to these characters speak out so definitely at the first bit of evidence, and them contradict themselves at the second scrap of information - it is as if they're all trying to be British (aha! Is THAT what Jane Austen is teasing about?) We must be perfect people, and part of that is having perfect and complete knowledge because we are the masters of our colonial Empire, so at the first opportunity we will judge and announce our decisions. We don't want to be children, we want to be adults - closed-minded and sure of ourselves - That will make a good impression on the marriage market. [Note that the author of this comment is English, too.] So contradiction in particular scenes comes from living inside a greater context of carefully not observing oneself.
Trying to remember JM at a "contest" berween Austen (he was championing her) and Bronte.
It’s on RUclips, John Mullan and Kate Mosse for the Intelligence squared Queens of English Literature debate
JA use of the modal verb "must".
It's usually a toss up between Jane and the Brontes for me. When i want to cry and take kife seriously give me the Brontes. When I want to laugh give me Austen. But the older i get I see that Jane saw the tears also but like her "i dearly love a laugh" and after all that makes life easier to bear
I mean life. And Pride and prejudice is my favorite book
You don't mention what I think is the most blatant contradiction in P&P: Darcy's saying that once his good opinion of someone is lost, it is lost forever!
But he NEVER lost his good opinion of Lizzie, if that is what you're suggesting. He made his case to Lizzie, mended his own ways, and hoped things down the road might improve. He didn't change his mind about Wickham, but he adjusted as was indicated.
IF you're mentioning his first impression of her from the initial assembly, that impression was built on little but appearance and his assessment of her likely status in society. As soon as he was in her presence a few times, the appeal of her wit and character (when viewed in light of her smile and physical attractions) became obvious.
@@kevinrussell-jp6om You are right. He could not have lost his good opinion of Lizzie because he never had one to start with. Still, Darcy's proclamation is rather pompous, and does not endear him to me.
@@yon8378 Yes, Darcy has flaws/warts. He is pompous, and Americans of a certain type will have trouble warming to him. We have a much easier time identifying with a guy like Captain Wentworth, or with Gabe Oak in Far From the Madding Crowd. Darcy is proud and Upper Crust.
I am having difficulty imagining Elizabeth Bennet calling her mother "Mom."
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I thought it was ma'am, like you would say to royalty.
@@richardarcher3435 So did I. But Prof. Mullen makes it sound just like "Mom!"
@@smgpoetryarts Yet in Chapter 5 we find, "“Are you quite sure, ma’am? Is not there a little mistake?” said Jane. “I certainly saw Mr. Darcy speaking to her.” and "“Another time, Lizzy,” said her mother, “I would not dance with him, if I were you.” “I believe, ma’am, I may safely promise you never to dance with him.” In Chapter 19 there is "“Dear ma’am, do not go. I beg you will not go. Mr. Collins must excuse me."
@@dorothywillis1It is pronounced "ma'am like pom, not ma'am like ham".
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My favourite adaptation, which yieIds the most definitive EIizabeth [EIizabeth Garvie] aIso yieIds the most probIematic Darcy [RintouI] makes EIizabeth's change her mind He does not smiIe enough and the portrait at PemberIey is misconceived]. The best Mr. Darcy is sadIy no Ionger extant. It was AIan BadeI who does smiIe and renders some of Darcy's mosr provocative remarks credibIe and eventuaIIy persuasive. I remember his smiIe and voice when he remarks that 'Dancing is aImost over-rated accompIishments , it is in vogue amongst Iess poIished societies Every Savage can dance.' We know he is speaking epigramaticaIIy .. If you want to get some idea of the of the dramatic tension between EIizabeth' and Darcy try to find AIan BadeI in a scene from a BBC production of the WinsIow Boy' pIaying opposite MicheIe Dotrice. The finaI scene reveaIs the attraction of WinsIow's daughter and Sir Robert [in truth Carson] and his trying to conceaI his vuInerabiIity. It is a moving scene but it dispIays some of the quaIities that BadeI brough to Darcy. and come to think of it MicheIe Dotrice wouId have been a very credibIe EIizabeth. Another reveIation of what EIizabeth true thinks of Mr Darcy comes in the scene that John MuIIen mentioned mentions at the piano at Rosings when she says to CoIoneI FitzwiIIiam' shaII we as your cousin how it is possibIe for a man of sense of education finds it difficuIt to recommend himseIf to strangers?'[this is for memory I do not think it is an exact quote but the gist'] If I have one criticism of the adaptation afore said it is when at the piano Darcy remarks about her expressing opinions that are not in fact her own she' Iaughs heartiIy' 'and it is reveaIing of the deeper, more private EIizabeth but in this adaptation she does not but the Iaugh shouId be hearty and it is interesting. Darcy has penetrated her secret and that is attractive to her. So few peopIe divined it
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