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Cleopatra meet Octavian - HBO rome
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2023
- Warning graphic scenes!
Cleopatra faces a difficult choice. Her beloved Mark Anthony killed himself the day before.
Now Octavian meets Cleopatra in Egypt, what will they talk about?
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Octavian's unflinching stare pretty much in no uncertain terms tells Cleopatra she is going to die and her children with her
No, just her and Caesarion. He wanted to parade her through the streets of Rome in his triumph and have her executed like Caesar did with Vercingetorix. Cleopatra's kids with Anthony were fine. As a matter of fact, Octavia adopted them soon after their parents' death. It was all for propaganda of course which worked out quite well for Octavian.
@@AnimalBlundetto-12 The thing is didn't Antony have Helios? Weren't the kids a threat to Octavian and the Empire?
@@cautarepvp2079 I find it interesting that only their daughter seemed to survive long enough (and she had a good cv like kinda girlboss) and her brothers seems to disappear from history which make me believe that he killed them off before they can become a problem. He only spared their daughter because, you know, she’s a woman.
Some of her kids survived I think and had decendants.
@@ophelie2620I love ur emphasis on her being “a woman”😂
Such a powerful passive aggressive scene.Chilling .
Interesting that Octavian says “how could I replace you?” knowing that he would go on to directly administer Egypt under the principates
All of Egypt became *his personal property*.
Octavian is no simp
Amazing how they made him not blink once upon “seeing her” just as legend says
Please elaborate…
@@noora5119 since she seduced two powerful men, I believe they say Augustus claimed to not have even blinked once upon seen her, cuz he wasn’t impressed by her. You’d have to google it haha
In writings its said he stared at her unmoved and unblinking like a statue as he was immune to her charms
Octavian. Irises like embrasures...every glimpse, every gander, every second of scrutiny a reminder that all who oppose beneath his gaze are due the full enfilade of Roman brutality. No wonder Agrippa was given the architectural and geographic projects, Octavian was too busy nailing 100's on his Intimidate checks.
' Intimidate checks ' . That is a phrase I intend to store up for future use . Thank you . Dark Overlord .
@@99fruitbat94 I agree for sure. It's dark and brooding.
The scene is real fun with all the subtle meanings despite the nice words being exchanged. Cleopatra could not seduce Octavian the way she did Julius Caesar and Mark Antony.
Your well being is my chief concern. 😅😅😅😅😅
Do it my Lady, please. The thought of losing you…is unbearable.
She'd manage to ally and win over Caesar (Looks only being part of it, she was reportedly beyond intelligent and Caesar liked her wit and intellect)
She'd manage to ally and even manipulate Antony (through a mix of beauty, flattery and guile, as she was very intelligent)
But she was up against the most dangerous man in Rome, who had no time for women. No time for sex. Only power. Only Egypt, and his Triumph, would suffice.
She witnessed the titan of Rome. She witness what a vastly different beast he was. And knew that her hand was empty, and she had only one choice left.
Nah he liked woman, but he was a chad. He preferred younger women and of course he was going to be the dominant one. So obviously a lady whose older than he is and known for trying to dominate her partners wouldn't appeal to him.
Apparently Cleopatra wasn't even that pretty. Not ugly or anything, just not like Hollywood tends to portray; it was absolutely her intelligence that Caesar was impressed with, and her usefulness as an ally.
Her issue with Octavian is she really had nothing to offer that he couldn't just take himself. And Ptolemy Caesarion was always going to be a threat to him, there was no way to try and strike up an alliance with Octavian and keep her son safe.
You know, given that Augustus would've 100% walked and then killed her entire family and then her in a triumph.
I do not blame Cleopatra for killing herself and setting up her kids (minus caesarion) to be safe as her last agreement with Augustus.
The daughter survived and married well I believe ? My Roman knowledge is a bit sketchy these days ( getting old ) . Forgetful . Best regards.
@@99fruitbat94 everyone survived except for caesarion
@@wankawanka3053 Didn't fever or drowning cause the death of both boys ?
@@99fruitbat94
Caesarion was assasinated. I’m not sure what you mean by the other boy but you’re surely referring to Ptolemy first husband of Cleopatra, who did drown in an attempt to escape her army by swimming across the Nile.
As for the others, we are not necessarily sure. Mark Antonys son with Cleopatra, Alexander Helios, presumably disappeared or died. Due to lack of clarity in sources we’re not really sure what happened
@@romanusplayz-wx7ow So basically the boy died.. boys die... b
My only grievance is the horrible wig they gave her. Like it isn’t even historically accurate. She looks like she’s from planet Naboo.
The thought of losing you…is unbearable.
Octavian was a chad
you would have thought with the rise of Netflix, they could now afford to make this series (apparently costs are what made it finish)
Netflix cancels popular shows like Disjointed while silently keeping movies/shows like Cuties around. They have no taste
@@LordWyatt 0y vey!
It would have been ruined with woke bullshit especially when they get to Jesus. They did plan to have his story in later seasons
Cleopatra met her match here
Augustus for life!
Geez, I have said the same thing to many other fans of Octavian.
0:23 Did the aide blink with just one eye?
Nope, both
No
The title in the thumbnail should say 'meets'. not 'meet'
I'm Egyptian, A COPTIC CHRISTIAN EGYPTIAN.
I shout that out loud because we are the most pure blooded Egyptians out there and that's not only my opinion that's what Egyptologists, Historians and Scientists also agreed on,
and I tell you that every word that Bassem Youssef said is right and I totally agree with him.
Yes Egypt had lots of mixed cultures throughout its history like for example: Assyrians, Persians, Israelites, Nubians, Ukrainians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs and French, but the Egyptian blood didn't mix and change that much and that's because for centuries we Egyptians had a golden tradition rule to marry our cousins, and that tradition is still present until now especially in Upper Egypt(from Assiut to Aswan), Although that tradition seems silly and bad from a scientific biological point of view, but that doesn't matter, silly or not we kept that tradition of marrying our cousins for centuries and that helped us to preserve our pure Egyptian blood not mixed as long as we could, and the result is what you see now and that is Modern Egyptians looks typical to their Ancient Egyptian Ancestors, just look at my skin color and Bassem Youssef's skin color we are almost the same although he is a Muslim who was born and lived in Cairo and I am a Coptic Christian who was born and lived in Luxor and there is almost a 1000 km distance between us, doesn't that tell you a thing or two about who Ancient Egyptians were and what they looked like?
With all due respect for all the Black people and all the other ethnicities out there, but we Egyptians are special very special, WE ARE NOT Black or White or Yellow, Not Europeans or Africans or Asians, Not Assyrians or Persians or Israelites or Nubians or Greeks or Romans or Arabs or French or Italians or Germans or British or Turkish or Ukrainians, Not Middle Easterners or Caucasians or Mediterraneans or Levants or Amazigh or Berbers or even North Africans.
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Хахахаха, конечно инцест это интересно и это правда что египтяне этого не боялись, но когда в твою страну (при императоре Ираклии) вторгаются орды мусульман-арабов, то хочешь, не хочешь, а арабом станешь. Египет пал и вы все арабы, просто прими это. Египет при настоящих египтянах был центром цивилизации, науки, экономики, а уже много веков это куча бедных кишлаков. Почему? Потому что египтяне были заменены арабами путём массовых убийств и изнасилований. Это описано во множестве свидетельств и хроник 7-8 века.
@@svetchannel2998 Egypt wasn't only conquered by Arabs, It was conquered by many nations, so it's not historically accurate to cal Egyptians Arabs, Even Muslim Egyptians shouldn't be called Arabs, cause their DNA have different genes from many different countries, Arab tribes are no more than 5% of the total Egyptian population, most of them came from the Arabian Golf and exactly from Yemen and Saudi Arabia, and they don't even care for the purity of their blood like Copts do, so their Arabian blood also got mixed with the Egyptian blood and they became Egyptians too.
But what about Copts? haven't I said that Copts are the most pure blooded Egyptians?
The answer is yes I did, and yes we are the most pure blooded Egyptians out there, Copts who are about represents more than 30% of the total Egyptian population are the rightful descendants of Ancient Egyptians, and that's not what I say that's what scientists and historians said and proved. DNA test results made on Copts showed that we are 70% to 90% pure Egyptians, we could survive all these invasions because of two main reasons: First is our gold and because we were very rich once, and the second is because we marry our cousins and relatives. these are the two main reasons which kept our pure blood.
And second we haven't welcomed any invasions to Egypt, but that's what happened because they outnumbered us, but yet we could preserve our pure blood, culture, language, heritage, habits and traditions in spite of all these countless invasions.
@@svetchannel2998 Lastly my words would have no value if there is no proof on them so if you wanted a proof to what I have said, go now and search RUclips for a video with this title "Are Copts related to Ancient Egyptians? " .,
@@svetchannel2998 then go to the links in the description of that video, and you will find 20 links there to reliable sources from scientific magazines like: science magazine, britannica, encyclopedia, etc. as a proof to all what I said.
EgYpTiAnS WeRe BlaCk !!! 😂
Jada agrees with you. But Cleo was greek not african
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Julius Caesar was black
Claims they descended from Egypt yet they don’t even know their own fathers 🤣
@@goatsmiserable555your family failed in their homeland ⛵️
Octavian never would’ve been what he was Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa, his friend since teenage years, the eventual husband of Julia, later exiled, and the essential progenitor of other Roman emperors. It’s too bad “Shakespeare”-very likely Edmund de Vere, Duke of Oxford- check that out-never wrote a play about him, let alone about Octavian.
Don't know what you mean. Shakespeare wrote a play about all of them. It's called Antony and Cleopatra.
And no, he couldn't have written them as titular characters in any play because the success they had is difficult to feature in any Shakespearean story. It couldn't be tragedy nor comedy
Agrippa was exilted later? Exiled i mean why?
And yet Rome and Agrippa also needed Augustus. Only a slow wit would claim Octavian deserves no credit for his own rise and building up Rome. Why are you simping for one guy? Very few rise to power alone...wait, nobody does.
He desired her like the rest of men
He didn't, that was the whole point. Cleopatra didn't kill herself because she thought she could charm and seduce Octavian like Caesar & Anthony. What she found instead was a man who was almost sexless in his conversation only caring about one thing, power. The direction in this scene is for Octavian to be wide eyed like he is looking at a jewel in a crown and not any sort of romance.
When Cleopatra realised this was a different sort of man that there was no bargaining with she killed herself.
Nah he was far too smart and ruthless for all that. He desired to kill her and her children and parade their bodies in front of the Roman people, and she knew it.
Stoic men rarely fall for the flesh, especially the flesh of a woman. Flesh is the strongest weapon a woman can possess - If this fails - there is not much left.
He did not☠️he didn’t give a single fuck about her😂he just wanted Egypt
Your dumb