Exposing TikTok's Largest MLM (from the inside)
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↠ If you made it all the way to the bottom of this description comment 'MLM 101' on this video!!
Also I will say that tying a gambling mechanic to an MLM feels so dangerous to me. Gambling purposefully gives you that dopamine which is a great tool for trapping people in an MLM
Ooo this is a good POINT
I would argue it's basically legal adult gambling with a carnival style prize no matter what so you can tell yourself you didn't lose anything.
Yes! This is what the Pearl Party MLMs are, too. Gambling MLMs. Ugh.
Yeah this is loot boxes all over
Makes me think of the pearl party ladies.
You just showed the danger of mlms in the fact that even though you knew it was unethical you still felt all the dopamine from opening the package and doing the "party".
omg finally, thanks 👍
@ville__ had to come from a homophobe lol
LITERALLY.
And then had the gall to get her viewers interested in it. This is really irresponsible
The amount of EXTREMELY smart people I have met that got caught up in MLMs is way more than I would have thought tbh. The right pitch and circumstances and anyone can fall for one. Gotta be extra vigilant.
If it has the whiff of “get rich quick” it’s a scam.
Nah, i can't, i have no money, no business interest and no ambition.
@@ireallyreallyhategoogle I just really really like your username
Dude, I almost got sucked into a meditation MLM at my university. No freaking joke! AND! They got us all to convince the university to foot the bill for the first "retreat". It was WILD. (It was called SKY Campus Happiness if anyone is curious)
EXPOSING AN MLM.......By accidentally joining one😅😅😂😂😂
There is another fundamental issues with these products being a surprise, the person buying the bombs or rings not knowing what they are getting and potentially that item going to waste. We do not have endless resources for blind consumerism. While it can be fun and exciting to reveal it is a dangerous mindset to have on consumption.
The only one of these "surprise jewelry" things I ever actually liked was one with candles... because at least you get a nice candle and multiple hours of use out of it, and then the jewelry was like an extra little bonus in it, and they were actually mostly cute/pretty.
It's gambling.
The fact is though, selling the rings and showing them on TikTok IS harmful, because it is persuading people to buy the rings and then they get unknowingly sucked into an MLM. There’s probably quite a young audience on TikTok too who wouldn’t even know it’s an MLM and think they can make a job out of it. But yeah, I feel sorry for all of the people who’ve gotten sucked into it and are then desperately trying to sell them. It’s not an excuse to let others fall prey to the same scheme though. Glad you exposed this!
The way this MLM works is literally like gambling, trying the slot machine again and again until you get maybe what you wanted, thats why it's so easy to be pulled int it. I don't agree with saying the ring selling/parties are harmless, thats how they get you. You can't even buy one ring bomb, you have to have the starter pack AT LEAST and they actively try to sell you more, yeah srry Alayna I don't agree that even the ring selling is harmless.
I totally get the intrigue. Theirs just better alternatives than an mlm that very obviously exploits vulnerable people. You can go to any store with kids toys and they sell bath-bombs with prizes inside. Just do that. I really don’t think it’s worth it especially because the consequences are so severe for many people
Yeah and even making your own. Making a bath bomb is so easy and cheap.
My ex got hooked into an MLM back when we were married. She couldn't understand that I had a serious issue with the idea of TRYING TO PROFIT OFF OF OUR FRIENDS. Some of the products were actually useful, and I used them myself. Doesn't mean I'm okay with selling them for double what I paid to people I worked with (and had to see five days a week), and as for people I considered friends, if they had wanted any of that stuff, I'd have sold it to them at cost.
I won't say my reluctance to join in on the selling led to our divorce, but money problems absolutely did.
The only time it’s ok to profit off friends and family is if your kid is selling Girl Scout cookies or similar.
@khills yesssssss, send me ALLLLLL of the girl scout cookie order forms!!!!! I will buy at least 3 overpriced cookie boxes from every one of those sheets from friends and co-worker's kids lmao 🤣!!!
I have zero problem with that, but no MLMs lol
@@B.Harper7 Hah, exactly. I’ve had to explain to my non-American husband that, as a former Girl Scout, I am morally obliged to stop and buy at least a couple of boxes of cookies from every Scout troop I see. Doesn’t matter if we just bought them from a group tabling in another town, it is the payback I owe all of the people who bought cookies from me (and thus gave me opportunities I would have never otherwise had as a kid, like cool weeklong camping trips in the woods, or going to Disneyland!).
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the issue with MLMs is that they target vulnerable demographics like young people who don’t have much life experience, immigrants, and moms, and get them hooked on this idea that if they just keep going they will succeed and they end up pouring more money into it and they never make anything back, about 98% of people in MLMs will lose money. it’s a really REALLY bad thing
I really love seeing a smart person openly talking about the steps of being taken in by something like this - people love to think they're immune to being manipulated and that people who are taken in are stupid, but these scams are designed to be inviting!
I’ve never been happier than now when Alayna used my “mlm, more like wlw” dad joke from the patreon livestream in her video😂
This LITERALLY reminds me of those candles that have surprise rings inside of them, that were insanely popular a few years ago. I've seen all kinds of bath bombs too but usually far bigger than these tiny little squares. There's so many jewellery surprise MLMs it's insane.
Hahaha yesssss the princess candles or some shit 🤣!!!!!!!!!
I remember that like.......8 years ago?
It's funny MLMs are still around, but slowly stopping. People are very aware and not afraid to tell their friends that they got sucked in, and then post about it to warn others.
I feel like at some point it's going to stop for 10 to 15 years, and then once the alpha babies are in high school, someone is going to try and get all of them sucked into it
It's cool for you to share this because a lot of people feel stupid for falling for one of these and you are an objectively super smart person who showed us she is not ashamed at all because that's what these companies are built for and they are the ones who should be ashamed.
I had an interview at an MLM (cutco lol) and didnt realize it was one, because i declined the job offer when i was told i was required to recruit people, and the social anxiety would have been too much for me 😂 i just went "this isnt the job for me, i dont have that skillset" and left, learning way later that theyre an MLM 😂
I love the idea of helping people who are feeling stuck while wanting to get out of an MLM and then using that to auction for donation!
Be careful- you often don't actually "own" that inventory- when you sell it the proceeds go back through their system and you get a cut. If you dont sell it, sometimes you are on the hook for actually purchasing your own inventory
I was once at a certain MLM's conference (for work reasons, not voluntarily haha) and i can confirm that they're cults. People were giving testimonials like at charismatic churches and the key speakers were like pastors riling people up. It was crazy.
My mother tried to get me and my wife involved in a vitamin MLM. She offered to pay all of the costs. I refused. I've never enjoyed selling anything and I surely wasn't going to get involved in a MLM ... frankly, I didn't want my name associated with it at all. I'm not sure she understood ... at least until it was obvious that it wasn't ever going to make any of her family any money. I refrained from any 'I told you so'-s ... partly because I don't operate that way but mostly I didn't want to give it enough thought to let it occupy any space in my already busy mind.
MLM, Multi-Level Madness!
Is your pfp inspired by The Owl House? It’s awesome lmao.
@ville__ You are getting reported.
@@Imakmsbro It is! Thanks
The structure behind the mlm is the issue. MLM 101.
Were the ladies in that promotional material hugging? It was saying stuff about family and I was like "it is queer! Those women are married!" But now it occurs to me that maybe hugging your bff like that is a family value for southern straights 😂
Alayna if you still have your Pokémon cards you should ABSOLUTELY show them off omg
Really enjoyed the deep dive! My other concern too, that I'm not sure if it's disclosed within the company, is where is the jewelry made? If it has stones, where did the stones get collected from? A lot of stones found in jewelry are unethically sourced especially diamonds. Especially if I see a cheap piece of mass produced jewelry then I have major concerns.
Diamonds?! 😂 those aren’t diamonds. They are likely all lab created.
Lotto mixed with MLM... pressing all the buttons.
I appreciated this and felt validated for my dark pre-gay awareness stint 15 years ago where I was in a boring , dead-end job and got stopped on the street by someone i didn't know how to say no to and eventually spent an obscene amount of money on Mary Kay makeup. It took me years to pay it off.
The charity auction livestream was epic, in spirits as much as in duration.
Hahah omg it was want it!😂
did not know MLMs where still legal in the US.... somehow it doesnt surprise me.
Listen to the podcast The Dream to learn about how fucking bad the MLM situation is in the U.S.
Everything went wrong so fast 😂😂
If you want a similar type of fun that isn’t an MLM or a scam, I recommend getting candles or bathbombs from Fragrant Jewels. I’ve been ordering from them for a few months and have had such a good experience I signed up for their monthly box (first time I’ve done a box subscription). They have lots of items on sale and these end up being around the same price as full price candles and bathbombs from Target (except these have fun rings in them). 😃 They’re hand poured in Cali upon order if I remember right, so they take a couple weeks to ship, but I really love them!
OMG no! Another commenter and I were just talking about this brand and another one of them!!!
They are definitely an MLM if you look into them and you can become a distributor.
I'm so glad you mentioned pokemon and Magic the gathering, because it seems exactly like that, but with the bad mlm element attached to it. The dopamine from opening blind "booster packs" where you get a "chance" at *maybe something good*. Even to the point of the different levels of packs, which is ridiculously expensive for some cardboard 😢
I too am stuck watching people open lots of expensive booster boxes 😂
Were we supposed to not join the MLM or...? I don't think you were very clear on your stance.
The problem people don't understand about pyramid schemes and MLMs is that you have to KEEP selling to stay on top of the fees. Sure, it feels great when you get buyers from your friends and family around you, but that well dries up quickly, especially if you roped one of them into the scheme. The founders get to reap the real benefits because they just have to resell cheap wares and collect fees from those below them. You, as a seller, can never outpace the costs. You'll eventually dry up all your clients and you'll slowly go into debt with fees and the demand to keep your wares up to date. Even the biggest sellers end up losing everything... or end up becoming their own con artist.
Lastly, I don't care if the founder is queer. Fuck MLMs. They're just pyramid schemes with a new name. All they do is hurt vulnerable people.
I think reimbursing someone and auctioning the rings off would be a decent way to bring awareness while trying to help out.
MLM's are honestly a plague on society and I do feel sorry for the ones that truly thought they had a chance and learn the really hard way. I love the idea you had though to donate the ring proceeds to charity 💜
Do lead tests, most of these mlms cheap out to the point of selling dangerous items, it may seem harmless if people enjoy the jewelry and experience, but they are almost certainly selling you lead/heavy metals that are toxic
This is what has been missing from all of the anti MLM content I've consumed - someone actually signing up and buying the stuff and showing you how crappy it is and also talking about why it is appealing. It's not as black and white as "it's all bad".. MLMs are definitely unethical but wanting pretty shiny things and to have fun unboxing things with other people isn't inherently unethical.. it's just a shame the only way to do it is through companies who use an unethical business model.
I love the idea of you buying more of these from people who can't shift them! I know a lot of MLMs have rules where you can't sell the stock you've bought outside of the MLM model (on Craigslist or eBay etc.) but I don't think that would apply to people who have quit the MLM but still have a bunch of the stock.
Just want to point out that this is dangerous for people with gambling addictions, because it doesn't immediately seem like gambling on the surface (I mean specifically the ring bomb mlm and others like it, not mlms in general)
You can report the emails as spam/junk and report the email address to stop seeing the emails.
I’m loving investigative journalism Alayna
When I saw the title "MLM" I was like why is Alayna talking about BL / YAOI on her channel ;)
You can block the emails and they will just go straight in to your junk box.
Unfortunately, I’ve been involved in two MLM’s, and this is giving me so much anxiety 😬 😂
alayna having a mtg phase makes so much sense
I loved the storytelling in this one, very fun to watch ❤️
Why couldnt it have been like those cute dino egg thingies you have to break the lil dino out of? I hate it when a cute product idea gets spoiled by a bad business structure 😭
Mlm’s are so crazy… and in more than one ways dangerous for a whole group of people.
Love your content miss fenderr 🧡
When my friend told me she spent a total of $1200 between the $600 for the kit, the subscription, all the stuff they say she needed...i was like 😮
I am amazed how you still continue to singe "vitally important produces" :D that is so cute and weird at the same time :D
Still waiting for a houseplant tour video ❤️😅❤️🪴
OMG finally the fizz bomb video we've all been waiting for!!
You said "Picture This..." And instantly the song by Blondie sprang into my head.💘
I haven't even started fizzing yet 🤣
I bought a few of these bath bombs with rings over 5yrs ago and it was a standard online purchase
I have been WAITING for this video after hearing about it on chosen family and watching some of the live stream
The way that you're reacting to this is exactly how people get sucked in. It's fun, the product is usually okay, you get to be part of a community. And in this case a very popular community on the world's biggest social media platform, which you utilized. It's great that you donated but you also may have gotten all of your viewers interested in this MLM.
You said it's like a cult because it is like a cult. It's exactly like a cult.
Collecting things isn't just unfettered capitalism and fomo. you should really care about the things that you want to collect if that's something that you decide to do. I have ADHD and I get really excited about products and crafts and activities like this.
These groups are evil. They take advantage of women who need help.
It's not even a little harmless. No one should be supporting them. They're selling you garbage and preying on your gambling instinct.
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💯 I escaped an Amway family many years ago and glad the awareness is out there now with the anti-MLM community here alone.
"Picture it, Sicily, 1912"
I just couldn't help myself when u said picture it
I have literally never seen this on TikTok even still and that cracks me up
Alayna you should start a small fizzy ring business yourself.
like you could reach out to small queer jewelry and bath bomb creators, and sell them online and/or do more live-streams. but like guilt free and also supporting queer creators.
omg i was at that livestream but i joined late and was SO confused. i'm so happy i finally have context for it 😂
Alayna: for anyone who is possibly on the fence about whether this is an MLM
Also Alayna: I'm still on the fence! 😂
"I haven't even started fizzing yet" is such an upsetting sentence for some reason 🤣
OMG!!! Magic the Gathering, I wouldn't have guessed but I shouldnt be surprised when you started talking about your custom keyboard!
The most wild part about MLMs is that you're just at the tip of the iceberg probably. I can't speak to this one, but I recommend reading Hey Hun by Emily Lynn Paulson to see about her experience in the upper level of one (mixed in with research on cults and info on other MLMs).
My bff just joined BP. She paid $600 for her kit. So crazy.
Tik tok madness friday
hay love you chosen family pod.... i couldnt wait for this vid.... also i wanna say i am behind u in my education process im doing pyschology undergrad and watching your jurney giving me everything maybe one day well both be helping so many
Merch idea for the Chosen Family pod: the rings Alayna bought and don't know what to do with
“I joined an MLM”
Been waiting for this one 😊
There’s an Australian business who sells these kinds of products, has been for years. So not only have the US company turned it into an MLM, they’ve stolen someone else’s idea 😂
im slightly embarrased it took my 4 minutes and you basically saying exactly what it was for me to finally figure out the mlm you are talking about is not the mlm i was thinking about. like i quickly figured out it wasnt gay men but then what else could it be lmao
Commented at like 11 mins so maybe you get to this but the harm is you just spent hundreds for dollars, and the chances you make all or any of the back is tiny. And then if you were actually trying to make this successful you would keep spending until you gave up
"The Exchange rate is painfull" me, in Brazil hearding this... Yeap, very, very painfull hahahaha
Such an obscure hobby. Love it!
Never seen someone get so excited about Amway...LOL
Amway is a blast from the past.
Mark the unwanted emails as Spam and you'll never see them again!
This is why I prefer the OG name of pyramid scheme, where the founders are at the top and everyone else in the middle or mainly on the bottom. Glad you are having fun and not promoting this. It's kinda like Avon, kind of useful products in a money-making scheme. 😮😅
"could be crap, could be gold, could be a diamond ring" reminded me of when i got sucked into metal detecting youtube. I recommend Nora Svet, she goes to the coolest spots
It’s a reverse funnel system 😂😂😂💀
you dodged a giant bullet i think 😭 sometimes these companies go after resellers on ebay/fb marketplace/etc for selling off overstock once they quit. they would rather product rot than not turn a profit. glad that didn’t happen here.
The queer MLM reaching the reggy channel. I will listen to this story 1000 times and never get bored because the PASSION you have behind this hahaha. Some ex MLMer needs to send you more rings for season 2
Used to be a part of an mlm because i just thought it'd be cool to learn about the product and talk to people. I'm not competative though, so I didnt care to sell/was not selling. Luckily I was able to sell my product back to a seller that had been in it for years and was successful. Glad you were able to do good with the products and get out of the subscription!
i bet there are some artists who make bath bombs! you might be able to support a local/etsy business if you want to keep making live streams with the surprise element
I was icked by the concept until the final fizz 😂😂😂
The way you call the un-fizzed bombs "raw" 😂
Why when I read the title did I think MLM meant man love man like WLW
You are also paying them for you to make ads for them.
So... what does MLM means ? I know the concept but don't know what it's called
I’m not sure if you know this now since I’m late. But you can order them un revealed from reps lol.
I mean you could have bought unfizzed through their hq .
It’s so funny because all of the patreon have already seen the rings and seen them get auctioned on the livestreams 😂😂😂
Holy shit I’m a man who doesn’t wear jewelry and I got sucked into watching a Paparazzi Jewelry seller and buying HUNDREDS of dollars of this shitty jewelry over months. 2020 was so wild
If it's too good to be true...
I thought MLM was male loving male and was so confused for the first bit of the video
What a waste of money
Ahhhhhhhhhh you're selling Dossier so well, but they don't ship to Germany and it is driving me nuts
Not me already reading through the comments thinking there will already be someone from the mlm complaining that you turned your back on them.😅
As a collector at heart I totally get the appeal. The serotonin boost of hunting for treasure in many forms is something not everyone is going to get 😅. If I recall correctly doesn't Papa Fender have a superman collection? If so you come by it naturally. Still not a good reason to endorse pyramid schemes though LOL
I've never been here this early. Wow.
Not me listening to chosen family confused on why there's a problem with a MLM "man loving man" 💀
Ahh the type of MLM I love to hate ….
Something keep in mind is that the companies are not always just exploitative towards their reps/customers. They fund or otherwise support people you don’t wanna support. Betsy DeVos is filthy rich because she married into Amway money.
I was doing a scrapbooking mlm. The only reason i thought about joining is because i was scrapbooking. I was already spending money on products at stores. Why not try to make money if i could. I was stuck on a military base. Thing was, mlm's prey on military wives. I knew so many other women who did mlm. You could go to a different mlm party every day of the week.
I did really enjoy scrapbooking, but even with all the interest i had generated on my blog and posts online, i wasnt making any money. I had enough product and i had to stop buying.
While it still is a mlm, this company was not as bad as others that i have heard of. I was able to leave without any issues. They actually have a hobby level where you dont have to sell any products. I wasnt hounded by my uplines to stay or any other horror stories i have heard. But it was still set up for me really not to make any money. But unlike other mlm where the product is useless to you if you have to keep the products you paid for to then sell to customers, i ended up with crafting products that i was already paying in the first place. And i didnt have to buy everything upfront to then sell.