"You are RUINING DMZ playing like that"
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In today's video of DMZ Season 3, I tried DMZ PVP just to prove a point. SOLO DMZ is already hard enough, so its shoot first ask questions later in 99% of situations. I think it's safe to say that DMZ PVP is unavoidable at this point.
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Player hunting with 6 man team and taking out solos for no reason is what's ruining DMZ. But having little battles is exciting when random.
6 man teams stink I’ll agree there
Nah prefer to just kill others for fun
I agree with you.
Disgruntled multiplayers avoid plunder, resurgence and other modes where that is the purpose of gameplay, to hunt unsuspecting task oriented dmz players for s**ts & giggles.
They don't even loot bodies because they don't need it.
They never choose the actual "hunt squad" feature.
Why alert your target that you are looking for them?
It's sad but these players mad at Activision just want to ruin the experience for those of us who actually appreciate dmz if for no other reason than Activision ignores them.
They could switch to a new (old) game but they don't.
They could stop buying Activision products but they don't.
They just act out like petulant children angry at mommy and daddy for taking away SM2 or some other nonsuch.
Get a UAV.
Wear a comms vest.
Use the spotters scope.
(It's your BEST friend)
Keep your head down and your powder dry.
That's all you can do.
Maybe start getting good with throwing knives....
THATS the shit that's getting fn old!! FAST!!
ALL FN WEEK that's all I've been dealing with , ESP 8 TO 11PM Eastern time!
I don't mind PvP, just with these spawns being so close n 6 man joining so quick just to grab every hunt squad ha. it's just getting fn annoying cause sometimes barely gives u time to literally do anything! Literally I couldn't even grab plates or a 2 plate lol.
I think they should downsize like maybe to 4 man at least!?
Let 6 man teams go into their own servers or some shit!
Yeah the fact it’s unpredictable makes it so fun
The biggest problem is the lack of incentive/reward for completing missions, to which DMZ is clearly designed for. 98% of the randoms I come into the game with have no intention of working on any type of mission. They have never completed any missions and it is apparent by all the Tier 1 uncompleted missions. When I ask what they are working on, they respond with “I don’t do missions. I am just here to kill people.” They get to spawn in with their favorite weapons and don’t have to worry about gas closing in. They head straight towards the closest team and squad up. Then it is hunt squad time. Rinse and repeat.
Immediately after the last addition of the Koschei Complex, I could not get anybody to go down with me. They still wanted to do the same lame ass shit. Hunt squad. Not good enough to compete in Warzone, not smart enough to survive a horde of bots either. They take full advantage of the small amount of players that try to complete missions and progress, usually preying on their preoccupation with mission objectives and the bots associated with them. PVP is absolutely a necessary element for success in the game, but something needs to change. Greater incentives for missions or penalties for failure to complete missions. IDKI have also heard other people mention the idea of marking players who constantly kill other operators, like a karma system of sorts.
I totally agree. Remove hunt squad and six men squads from DMZ, and it will be a totally different game.
Spot on. This is why the mode is becoming so toxic. Removing the 6 man squads is the first step to improving this.
I don’t have a problem with the above. My I suggest a game like dayz for you? Or perhaps, Pac-Man.
Players can do as they wish... Let them hunt and be hunted, everyone has an opinion... As long as they not hacking then it's part of the game
@@kingrofty its not fun as a sole to have a six man roll up hunting Some trash talk how crap you are even though you downed 3 three of them whilst being outnumbered 6-1 ,
I have been in lobbies where there have been multiple six-man squads of Europeans that hunt as a 12-man squad even having the same clan tag
They came after me into the underground complex after a long chase across al Maz me stealing there Helo to gain a lead on them.
How can you beat them as they can just keep reviving each other.
The kishi complex I used it to just leave the game with all my gear intact turning my insured weapons into contraband and avoided being looted even took several vests from that 12-man to give to randoms in the next lobby.
This really wound them up.
There's just no need to be toxic to single players when they outnumber you,
odds are in there favour even though you can sometimes turn that around on them but then AI hive your position away,
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Anot all six-man squads are good at hunting there can be on occasion
Around 3 or 4 players whom where just average players who got killed right away at spawn then assimilation occurs,
Re eny though I ha e se3n my random squad mates just run and join another team without shots fired then they hunt you
They made the mistake of pinging the building I was in right as the first man left to join the other squad I knew what was coming after that.
Then they either push too far in front or lag behind believing that as a six-man squad, they are untouchable until they are wiped out.
This makes them easier to pick off from the main group and then just keep rotating, movement is key always but dam AI make it even harder so if a six-man is hunting you head to level 3 AI area get high ground make it even harder for them the AI can help you out of just kill you🤦.
unless they are all using the rose skin with comms vest that's when it gets very annoying. Edit:- the stealth vest now works as intended great at last.
It just got annoying as instant six-man squads all with UAVs and kill streaks bombarding you right after spawning.
In the UK these are mainly French or Spanish teams since we are on European servers
Some days I can't even get one main mission completed.
So I just use the one operator rather than waste my gear. And weapons with 15min cool down.
Edit : This now works -----+-
And the stealth vest just seems broken most of the time if using a silencer it should not ping you on a UAV especially when your not firing either but it does,
other days it works and allows you to take down squads without them able to ping you via uav towers..
Stealth works used it over last week avoided death snapped downed them but kept reviving hid let them leave then revived my squad.
Season 4 introduced more bugs and lots of lagging loading in with no guns but have weapons cooldown penalty regardless even though you didn't get them at spawn.
Good stuff! I’ve been playing DMZ since day one and I’ve been really enjoying your videos lately. I do fine with bots and missions, but I’m not very good with PvP and I feel like watching these types of videos helps me improve little by little. Your level of awareness and game sense is something I look forward to attaining one day, and I appreciate your videos so keep them coming.
you shouldn't be going into DMZ strictly to pvp, but bumping into other teams should be threatening. if you're dropping into every game just looking for hunt squads, go play BR. this is from someone with a 4.22 KD, and 96% extraction rate within dmz.
My biggest complaint about PvP in DMZ is that it rarely feels "organic"... you either get rolled by a 6 man, or a contract tells the opposition where you are (roughly)... And then when you get taken out sometimes the plea mechanic doesn't work, and then it's back to the main screen to wait and wait to get back in.
I think the problem is the difference in audience. Some people, myself included, enjoy the objective-based gameplay in DMZ where occasional PVP is to be expected. However, lately, it's PVP first and PVE second. People spawning in with their friends to form 6-mans off the bat and just steamroll a match is objectively shit. Additionally, people who spawn in with the express purpose of hunting others down and are TOXIC about it is more of the issue. Most people don't take offense to PVP on a base level but no one is really thrilled with the constant platoons sweeping nearly every lobby. To those people who just say "get gud" don't understand that the average person doesn't have hours upon hours to play the game and practice. They enjoy the franchise and want to play a fun mode, they aren't gaming for 12 hours straight sweating mountain dew.
tl;dr PVP is fun but shouldn't be the only obj of DMZ. 6-man's are ruining the game.
Indeed! Best explanatiin I've heard..and logical!
Absolutely True!
Well said!
Nothing pisses me off more than this smart ass retort “get good!”
Some of us actually have lives outside of
gaming every hour of the day!
Most of the time I’m working 60 hours a week!
I don’t have time or the desire to waste my life playing a video game for views on RUclips!
Maybe as a casual weekend player my time is better spent playing a different game altogether?
I do wish they had a team/solo PVE DMZ, you have to do whatever mission is offered on random rotation. The main game is fun but even after beating it on it's hardest mode it's very narrow on it's storyline.
_I want to add my 2 cents about PvP_ extraction shooters are supposed to be difficult thanks to PvP. DMZ is very forgiving compared to other extraction shooters so allow that to help you get better at PvP within the game. Challenge yourself! I mean you can wipe a team with a fresh one-plate and a contraband RPK. Stealing other players’ loot for your gain should always be your motive. Missions are what give you a direction, but if that direction is blocked by an enemy then that is your new mission. Think of players as more difficult AI because I assure you that the players you run across aren’t the Twitch/RUclips snap-aiming sweat that you watch on the regular. Remembering it’s “just pixels” will help you get over the gear fear and push harder to accomplish not only your missions, but your skills. Good luck, Operators! 👊
The fact that DMZ is so forgiving is the problem. Pushing a PVP fight is supposed to be a risk/reward type of thing - you might get their loot but you risk dying and losing everything. In DMZ there isn't really any risk, who cares if you die you don't lose anything significant and it's easy to gear back up.
Also, the recent changes to spawns and the p2w skin with the free UAV is just fucking dumb. As is the ease at which you can join with people and create a 6 man squad. If I'm in a group of 3 and I die to a group of 3 from a hunt squad or if we just happen to run into a squad - that's cool, unless they're way better than I am it'll probably be a fun fight. But when a group of 6 roll up or a squad drops a UAV on spawn and instantly pushes us it's like - sigh, this is pointless.
Obviously PVP should exist, but there are a few issues currently.
Pretty good advice...
pixels...i like that
I have an operator that is my dedicated IDGAF if I die operator. Most of the time when I use that skin I'm going I with just my insured gun and basic load because I died and got looted previously. It's basically my PvP skin and if I get into a shootout and lose cool I'll load right back in either with another operator and do missions or go PvP it up again. It's not a big deal to die and get looted. Like you said, get over the gear fear. It's not real life.
@@MonoMan1 I think they intended to make it more risky by making you show up on the map when you loot a dog tag but if you wipe that entire squad or if it's a solo player then it's moot. Perhaps having some indicator similar to a UAV tower that everyone can see for some time period after you loot a player (even if you don't take the tag) just so it makes it evident that you PvP'd or something like that. Imagine killing a player at the port and looting him and then the other 12 teams at the port see you on the map. Bet guys would think twice or a minimum kill the opposing operator and move on instead of killing to loot.
I'm a big fan of DMZ since day 1. It's like a mystery box every time. You never know what will happen. You go in with a certain plan, gearing up, doing missions maybe, weapon case, bosses etc. and depending on your spawn and countless other circumstances it mostly goes in the opposite direction. I always run solo or with friends, autofill randoms without plan and comms are most likely certain death. I've been struggling with increasing PVP and hostile players, too. But I realized that the "problem" is not PVP, it's the playstyle that I was used to. And that didn't work anymore. You can't force the game and other players to fit your playstyle. You need to adapt it to every new situation. Live, die, repeat. And don't forget to learn from it.
Found your youtube channel today, and totally love your solo DMZ content, you are now my number one dmz youtuber to watch! keep them videos coming man!
I agree with the guy, honestly it’s hard for new people like myself to do the missions. Hell I get slaughtered by the bots lol. But I guess to each his own. Cool videos btw.
i quit playing DMZ cause i play solo and im tired of getting camped on exfil, I wish I was as good as you but i'm not.
the threat of campers is just not fun and it's not fun trying to fight a 6 man squad, that's more the thing that's kind of ruined the game mode for folks who aren't trying to play Warzone
These guys don't understand that for us.. It's not a job, it a distraction, they are the get paid for play generation everyone wants to be a streamer now, but hey.. Well look at other games I guess.
@@alain276 amen , it's also harder to get folks to play COD after WZ2.0 dropped.
Hopefully they fix up the game / improve the game modes while I take a break and play some backlog stuff.
Charles Couch posts these "DMZ SUCKS" comments on almost all DMZ videos 😂.I found this hilarious, love your content man!
I hope he sees this SO bad lmfao
this is Halarious 😂 my comment bothered u so bad u made a video 😂😂😂 I’m sittin back with my boys & we’re all laughfing ! classic 😂 I could care less what people think or say bout me cuz I’m cool with who I am , but I see small things bother you 🤦♂️ funniest video I ever seen
@@charlescouch2785 I wouldn't say your comments bother anyone. It's more so you are hell bent on spreading how much you hate DMZ when you could just stop playing it, stop watching it, and stop ranting about it. That's all man.
@@MarkusGGEZI don’t know man. This dude made a whole video about a comment on RUclips. Seems like it had an impact. Sounds like you read all his comments too. Just saying you don’t have to comment about the guy just like he doesn’t have to play the game mode
@@mike3891 I "used" to read all his comments because I read *everyones* comments. This simply made for good content as well as making a point.
That ending was absolutely perfectly executed my friend! 💯😂
*Absolute Perfection!* this video has it all!
Trolling ✅
Insane Plays ✅
Great Commentary ✅
100 percent correct . pvp death squads have completely ruined DMZ . and more importantly completely ruined plunder . Making them both totally irrelevant . Player killers should get absolutely nothing for their kills . no money , no guns , no ammo , no armor plates , and no loot of any kind . Activision rewarding bad behavior has ruined these game modes .
The "risk vs reward "aspect of dmz is why it is awesome.
I've only been playing a few weeks and it's disheartening getting repeatedly wiped by 6 man squads when I'm just trying to get some missions done and level up. But then you get a game when your team of randoms is on comms, down to do whatever, pick you up when you get downed and you all make it to final exfil by the skin of your teeth with a backpack full of great gear. THAT'S what's keeping me coming back for now.
Being on the other side of the ocean means we're unlikely to ever be in the same instance, but should it ever happen, I'd like to hope you'd get me up when I inevitably plea :)
Keep making great content bud - really enjoying your story format.
I agree with the youtube commenter. DMZ used to be fun. I understand PvP is in DMZ, but every other game mode that is multiplayer is PvP. I wish it was back to the way it was in Season 1.
"Charrrlieeeee ....... Chaaaarrrrrrrlllllliiiieeeeeeeeee! Come here Charlie. Daddy's gonna find ya!" 😂😂😂😂😂
Loochy my buddy sent me this video just now. You killed me at the airport. I remembered that interaction with you. I think the interactions with the other players make DMZ so much better. Good stuff. Subscribed
Chuck certainly has a point, and you taking it personal and getting a little salty with an "I'll show you" video is marking his point further valid.
PVP is certainly exciting, but there is a mode for that, and he's absolutely right. It's meant as a team based extraction pvp/pve mode, not meant to be warzone with extra bots. 🤷
I think 3 man max, only solos plead, 4 man IF you pick up a solo, but thats the only way to get above 3. And a matched lobby, I'm not great, I haven't played since black ops 2, but mw2-mw3-bo2 I was pretty ok at COD, but the game has evolved a ton, so even having a pretty good K/D on those old games, I'm getting wrecked, but then you see the player you're up against is a lol 355 and I'm level 27. A bit floppy I think.
I enjoy DMZ, but I really liked the Division, but getting shot down on exfil AS it's in the air leaving after all parties stating friendly....well, that's just bogus.
Bro, “Charles sends his regards” had me in tears 😆😆. Stumbled upon your channel the other day when I was on here just looking something up. Top tier man…keep it up!
Pvp is important, but it's meant to occur naturally as people go about their missions. It's *meant* to be an extraction shooter, ie do Misson extract. The AI are meant to be the main protaganists. Again, pvp is Important, but there should be a balance. Ashika right now is ridiculous. That said, I feel it's a dev created situation as a lot of people have finished missions, or don't see the reward in it. If they created an economy based on reputation, it could help rebalance things.
Why even do the missions when the rewards are terrible contraband wepons or bs stickers,emblems etc? They don’t even make the missions worth doing, it’s too much fun doing pvp
@:D I don't disagree in part. They need to up the rewards. I like doing them as I like completing things. I find pvp for no purpose boring tbh. It's different coming across a team and battling, but I like to have a purpose in going in.
@@AlexTiffinYT exactly I follow the remain passive until someone shoots at me first cause that way if someone shoots me first I don’t feel bad killing them
I agree. Sweats and cheaters have taken the fun out of DMZ. Some of us work for a living and can't play for 10 hours per day. 6man premade teams all game every game. organic encounter pvp is fun, Spawning in and having a 6 man hunt you 5 minutes into the game is not
I dont understand why don't they warzone if they want pvp
The fear of running into a " Loochie" is what makes DMZ so much fun... even if i get zero pings on my comms vest I'm still sweating the whole match, for my life may be struck down any second :D gotta love it :D
Bro people like you make dmz enjoyable. Core memories for sure when you're headhunting attempting to revive someone you downed. Sir you are a warrior . Humility when battle arises is that a warriors challenge . You can see your a master of craft experience in dmz makes you kinda cold. It's part of the game appreciate you brother id like to run one with you but I got no mic and not very good . Keep up the good work.👍
PvP is not what makes DMZ fun, it's the missions, progression, unlocks, and features that other modes don't have. PvP does add to the experience, but it's not fun when you're hunted from spawn relentlessly and unable to do your missions. That straw man argument of 'it's only fun because of the PvP doesn't hold up. Warzone isn't fun for me for that specific reason. I'm not bad at the game by any stretch and typically hold a 2.0+ K/D in COD, but that doesn't mean I don't prefer a casual experience. Good players who prefer PvE exist.
Edit: While it's fun and enjoyable to watch you play, it's only because I'm not on the receiving end of all the toxicity out there (not referring to you).
I think Charles will become your alter ego
Funny how he declines their pleas while he's saying "they gotta plea!" xD
My man, that ending is how legends are made.
U are quickly becoming one of my favorite streamers. Especially for this video and its meaning
That ending was ttoooxxxxxxiccccc 😂
“Charlie bit my finger”!!! hahahahaaaaaaaa!!!
Some of these squads say “cheater” more than then they help their own teammates lmao when my squad takes the L, we say GG’s or damn that was a good fight. This is all for fun. And I love when they talk mess and plead after, why would we get you up….
Charles isn’t wrong. It feels like DMZ is now full of people who only load in to hunt other players. Not even use the hunt squad contract, just hunt other players.
If that is your only reason for being, it might be better to just go to warzone. Try and get the kill record there.
I think the reason these squads exist is because a team like mine that is honestly trying to complete the missions, is an easy target. We are distracted trying to accomplish our goal, while your goal is to take advantage of the distracted.
It was better when there was a lot of friendly and a some dangerous interactions. There really aren’t anymore friendly interactions.
#ruiningitforeveryone
But I do like your content for the most part. I didn’t like this one.
It needs a karma system so that people who load in constantly and don’t do contracts but rack up kills can be evaluated and placed in lobbies of likeminded people. You like hunting, everyone should like hunting. But that sounds kinda like warzone…huh?
Thats because the base game is so boring that people like Stodeh and Westie made new accounts to replay the missions they’ve already beat. If the devs only want to drop new content every half season, the game’s going to get stale. Especially if you already have 3 insured weapon slots
U wrote a whole Essay props forbi
@@Ebs_Tina Yeah. I can get wordy at times. Sorry about that.
@@Joe._Biden i got my 3 insured weapons and stopped doing the missions bc the rewards are terrible
I agree with the comment guy in the beginning. Is fine having pvp. But extremely frustrating trying to do one mission all night because player hunters are fucking me up constantly.
2:29 this is my favorite guy to watch play and I don’t often enjoy watching anyone at all😂😂i Fn love this guy, his videos are so under appreciated. He just walks up to that guy downed and goes this is for charles😂👌👏👏 then throws the knife. i have to admit i was feeling similar to how charles does, at times. I wish I could run into him and team up that shit would be fun🤔
gave a 👍 for charlie, but it was the "can you plead again? F#&K!" that got me to hit that subscribe button!! LOL!
Stoytime: I got chased down by a 6 man squad and they had the worst attitudes...the whole vocabulary of insults...(Thats what I dont like.) So I started to explain why those kinds of people are the true problem with DMZ..and that getting killed and left behind because the squad is full is one thing...getting killed and squatted on, and called every insult under the sun, AND only has a squad of 3 but wont rez...is an all time low. Loochy gives me hope and humbles my anger everytime I watch these videos. I get to feeling like this is a waste of valuable time, and then Loochy reminds me all over again why these few hard times are worth the other great times. Stay Frosty Loochy!😅
I lolled my arse @7.20, that is so funny.
Great work loochy.
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DMZ IS TRASH NOW ! It used to be super fun but now it's just ridiculous people kill you just to kill you you can't complete missions because you have so many people coming from Warzone and all they do is hunt Squad and just everyone in general they shoot-first-ask-questions-later I mean I get how an extraction shooter works but the way that people are in DMZ is absolutely ridiculous
That ending to your video was the best one I’ve seen so far. “Enjoy the gas boys”
Fist off, ai bots can and will be found anywhere. I've seen them on roofs as well as walk through walls and fences...and the glitch where their lower half is in the ground. I even recently took out the scavenger and lost operators while they where under water in the sunken tanker. The juggernaut also seems to be able to travel far and chase you no matter how far you try to get away for a revive. That said, I'll agree with Charles couch. I deploy solo since I don't have a mic or headset and everytime I opt for a squad, they don't have the same goals as i do. I also think the hunting contract based on how much loot you acquire, needs to be modified so solo dmz players are exempt from being a target. The only way to hopefully evade a hunt is finding a helicopter and hopefully the squad hunting you doesn't have a joker. What's even worse is wearing the new stealth or ghost vest....and enemies still know your whereabouts, making those 2 new vests ineffective. Plus, if you do evade the hunting time period, you don't get a bonus of any kind. Deploying solo should give players a medium backpack and 1 self revive kit and self revive pistol right off the bat, should you not have them to begin with saved from a previous deployment. The devs should also allow players to archive/save gear they exfil with, for use in future deployments.
I'm someone who's loves tarkov and hunt. Only dipped my toes into DMZ and it encourages co-op play way more than most extraction shooters. Like being able to rescue downed enemy players to add them to you squad and a pretty decent voip system viop system. Seems like it encourages various play styles.
Maybe a dumb question, but how do you get that “hunter” sniper rifles that Looch is using?
I don’t mind PVP, I enjoy it but I am also a solo player so shoot first ask questions later is usually how I have to play but I do avoid it for the most part it is a little frustrating though when you are obviously not trying to go after anyone and they kill you anyway but that’s the game.
Same. Feel bad sometimes but you never know if they are just going to murder you. Had a guy jump in my exfil in the gas last second tonight, put him down and he hot mic'd. Was funny but sad lol. I'll probably put it up tomorrow 🤣
DMZ is not for killing players it’s more fun when you do mission
Cry, you just suck you decided to play a PVP game. Go play Minecraft
At this point, finishing the missions is pointless, you finish a mission and get a key to a place you’ll likely never go to use it…I was grinding missions to unlock the insured slots but with this new workbench, insured slots are nearly pointless, swing by there and make your exact build with a contraband weapon and it’s golden…and on top of that with pay to win slowly taking over, what’s the point in grinding. Might as well PvP and have a good time! Good video loochy!
That’s a stretch to say “ruining”.
1) ITS. A. GAME.
2) If it was simply a bot-hunt game (even with that crazy-assed AI), it would get stale QUICK.
3) Some players are jerks and some are amazing to play with. Without the possibility of those interactions, you’ll never find those rare gem players who are just amazing to have that one-and-done round with that makes you smile and laugh the whole time. I’ll take the danger of getting broadsided continually over playing another bot-sim any day of the week.
absolutely essential for the game is PVP, and i enjoy it most of the time. But i don't like assimilation to 6 man as you know they aren't bothered about anything other than hunting players. Usually they have no skill and play like PvE and just run at you like a swarm and hope the numbers out gun yours, usually they do. I have a video of them just rushing us with no skill and we managed to get almost all of them down as a duo, but 1 survived and revived quicker than us and then picked everyone else up. It's pre planned as well as it was within 90 seconds of spawn they were on us. I'd stop playing if PvP was removed from DMZ, but max squads should be capped at 3
Agreed
Loochy, not sure if you know. But when you hear “Enemy Operators “ means 1 to 2 players.
Squad of Operators = 3 to 4 players
Platoon of Operators = 5 to 6 players.
Just good to memorize those sound cues. Helps you to know what’s around. Also, for each squad, the comms ping is 1 min per squad, so if you’re hearing multiple pings it’s multiple squads
How do you know that? Have you tested this? Because I have also heard that the first two is the same and just says one randomly, and anything over 3 is a platoon.
One squad inside of 100M from you - you’ll hear pings 1 min apart. Anything above that, more than one squad/platoon etc.
I hate running into other players most times but can agree. That is what gets my blood pressure up and me gripping my controller tighter etc. Makes DMZ fun for sure. Also makes its shit at times as well
Lmao I'm glad I found your channel. I've always used high velocity is HE still your go to?
Charles kinda has a point. If you want PvP, you already had Warzone.
Let DMZ be for the people who want the open world extraction shooter mission looter
Any team that squads up should all become permanently visible on map, subject to friendly fire and not allowed on final exfil.
I love how ppl complaining about PVP in ruining the mission runner's experience forget to mention that a big portion of the missions in DMZ is to kill other players.
Or the people complaining never reached those tiers.
What they really need to do its have factions, either split it in two or maybe three. so on loading screen team members vote what fation they want squad to join, ie 2 vote faction 1 so they join that faction, and ppl/teams can only PVP the opposite faction, ie (with 2 factions)faction 1 can only kill faction 2 team members. even if this was not a server wide feature and only a mode selection, it would show what ppl really want to play in, it gives the pve and pvp aspects to every game. you could even create clans that only play on one side of a faction and get bragging points for when that faction pulls out in front of mission completes and kills. just an idea it maybe shit. but it does get a bit annoying for those of us that casual play and get hunted, this faction based feature could even have a most wanted if a team of other faction has a high kill streak.
I mean he makes a point, some of us just genuinely enjoy the PvE side and love the clear buildings, loot and scavenge side but the threat of PvP does always keep you on your toes, its just that theres many squads that exclusively PvP ONLY in a PvPvE mode which just takes ghe fun out of it sometimes
I think PVP and the chaos of teams joining other teams etc is all part of the fun. The only thing I wish they did was randomise the spawns and put the teams further away from AI at the start - it’s just a giveaway when you see loads of AI 200m away shooting in a certain direction and calling in backup within 10 seconds of starting
Loved the ending! Without pvp DMZ would die
Once you loot a player, you can't revive them
Kinda wish they change that. I was looted and 2mins later a 4man rolled up and attempted to get me up , after they took out the 3man that got me :(
Why would you want to get revived after they loot you anyway. If a team gets me up but robs my 3 plate first, I won’t say a word and I’ll go do my own thing immediately looking for stuff to build a 3 plate or I’ll just back tf out of the game. But if they don’t rob me before they pick me up then I’ll stick with the team and help them till the end.
@@MAGA_Randy_Marsh The team who downed me was taken out from another squad, so if I could have revived, I could still get some things back and continue going on my 9th successful exfil.
@Alex Miranda another team can revive you. They must have looted you too, even if it was accidentally
Loochy you are a pure savage! Charles would be proud!!😢
The balance and opportunity you give downed combatants is the key here, you give them the option to live on 😂
Great video man, I recognize that name in my comments lmao. I agree with what you said at the start though, I think for most people who have played any other extraction looter shooter all seem to be fine and love the PvP side because its the norm. I think its the people who are new to it seem to have it in their heads that you need to be friendly or something lol
You inviting dead people was cracking me up 😂
PVP in DMZ is great. Its so intense. If you (or me) want to go chill then I play plunder or warzone but when I play DMZ its kill or be killed and sure sometimes I meet people and talk my way out of situations.. The sweats are playing ranked so DMZ is not worse now.. I am also not very good at pvp though so I get Charles. Its hard if you die a lot. Some people don't get to play that much and the more you play the better you are. I mean I'm like level 340 and I've played since launch as much as I could. Mainly DMZ
PvP is a lot less scary than the AI lately.
The AI has been murderous.
LOL! i play DMZ and know full well that this mode is still a kill or be killed. i started playing DMZ as a solo which makes it more fun and intense. I love the adrenaline i get when i get hunted down which i still able to manage to turn the tables on some of them. there's nothing wrong with DMZ, the only problem is that some people tend to overreact because they didnt get it their way.
I typically only PVP when I am forced to or when it just happens to be that I encounter players that I cannot evade. AKA: I will shoot back until you can't shoot and I will take you out if you are in my way.
DMZ is the exact same as Dark Zone from The Division series. You go in, you get killed by players, you get upset, you want revenge. You go in there and you kill players and take their loot. The cycle repeats.
loochy too cold, that ending was crazy
😂 the end clutch
Nah fuck that, Charles is right
Nah you just bad
@glen8372 lol ok
It shall be known from now on that anyone killing in dmz just to kill in dmz is just “huntin Charlies”lol
As a solo player, I salute you for taking down multi player squads. Im just trying to do missions and you cross paths with a squad and they just want to hunt you down.
Tha best dmz hunt video.. this one for Charles 😂
Should give you an option at the beginning of the map if you want to go on friendly mode. Kinda sucks when someone needs to xfil for a mission and you get killed.
Cry baby.
...enjoy that gas.... lol classic
Calls out Charles on the couch for hating on people in DMZ for not playing the missions and only playing PVP 20 minutes later is calling out someone else for hating on people for not collecting dogtags in kill confirmed 😂😂😂😂
Love your content. I like DMZ for the PvE and PvP balance but you're right about the 6 man teams. I play as a solo with squad fill on. About 1 out of every 10 matches I end up with a true "teammate" with comms and an interest to share the DMZ experience. Often I am out doing my own thing, selective PvP and missions, and get rolled up on by a platoon. Kind of sucks but in the end I get to throw out on comms, "Yay, 6 on 1, just like your mom last night." LOL
Charles is most definitely not in charge.
Well played.
Lmao the knife throw at the end
Nice! I do understand where Charlie is coming from though. I get you point of view as well. Would be interested in seeing you Plunder a game or a few. PvP all day long. Very few AI.
What would make it better is
1 a reputation system to help matchmake less aggressive players
2 a mechanic to convert dog tags into plea tokens that will countdown and revive the player after a set time, without assimilation. Re-killing the player without receiving damage from them first will lower rep
I feel that though, I am still just trying to get my 2nd secured weapon slot, but either the people I play with just run off and do their own thing, or I play solo, and I just get killed for non, damn near impossible to try to do anything, but what really grinds my gears are trying to extract, they camp those points,
But it's all part of the game IG
You did those last three guys dirty lol
This is literally the best video ever made! The sign off at the end was epic! Loochy we salute you!
I will only kill other players if it has to do with my mission or if they shoot first. If I grab a hunt contract and find out it's just a solo I will usually always leave them alone or send an invite.
That intro with the rain and Butcher 😢 was perfect. Heard about you on Markusggez stream. I'm hooked. Keep grindin.
Well, Charles is correct bud!
If players want to kill other players, then they should stick to WARZONE as that’s what that game mode is actually for guys!
I think that they should make it that in the DMZ mode U can meet up with other players, but U cannot attack or kill other players!
As then the game WILL be fun & fair guys!
I LOVE PVP in DMZ, it's the ONLY CHALLENGING thing in it. Personally, I think people need more PVP to get good at it because most of the teams I come up against don't have a clue what they're doing. Personally, I think the people who hate PVP aren't good at it and always die that's why they hate it
I love hunting the type players like you in the game because the majority of those that only go to dmz for pvp is because they suck at war zone and ranked
I’m not that type of player unfortunately. I’ve beaten top pros in ranked lobbies and have like 3000+ wins between Warzone 1-2 :)
@Loochy nice to hear that. Unfortunately, many of the types of players mentioned have turned dmz toxic
That Charlie shit was straight up psychotic, love it
Incredible ending hahahaha
Haha, dang dude love this!! 😂 It does suck sometimes trying to grind a mission only to get wacked before exfil. Only here, what kills you makes you better!
Wow. I don't know how you evade getting blasted point blank and wiggle your way out hahaha. Beast
The thing that is ruining dmz is losing the loot you worked your ass off for because of some sniper across the map
Just finished watching this and the ending was brutal. Loved the salute to Charles, that was priceless.
PvP is good! If they want PvAi then they should play the campaign mode.