As most probably will, i plan on getting 6 and throwing Dante or a Captain in the squad. "Flying Bladeguard Veterans" with even better melee profiles is pretty wild and generally very useful.
GW need to errata that in 6 man units you can take at least 2 Inferno pistols, not just 1...which is just stupid based on what everyone will model from the box! 😓
I think the best character to attach them to is a Thunder Hammer+Storm Shield Jump Captain. It’s a unit that WANTS to be in melee, has some added durability and a strong weapon. So the defense buffs really help out.
I might be entirely alone in this, but.. I actually prefer the SG without wings, if only for personal bias; see, my favorite unit Editions past was the Honour Guard, those gold-plated fly boys I kitted out and had with my HQs, and when those went out of favor or altogether, the new (annoying to assemble) SG just didn't fill that void for me. I totally get the feelings on the wings being clipped, or the "downgrade" in embellishments fans feel, but for me? I come from older times when the models weren't blinged out, so I guess I'm just more comfortable? Either way, I respect the stances, and respect the Primarch level of effort you always give Auspex, I come here for news and info because it's always so swift and reliable! Thank you! :)
We couldn't make the Spears damage 3 or something? Cause apparently it's forbidden that one of the best Melee armies isn't allowed any Damage 3 weapons on its unique units.
@@TheCoremeltdownI mean at least Azrael gets -4 AP I was asking for that at least. But seriously what the Hell? Why is almost every Infantry Space Marines unit 2 damage?!
Because most space marines are 2 wounds or 3-4 for elites. If anything they should nerf all other armies who still have access to dmg3 weapons to even the field.
Ubridled Ardour is re-roll all hits AND all wounds. Quite nasty if used correctly, basically sacrifice some JAIs units to a key enemy unit and have full re-rolls with san guard.
Deffinitly over-pointed with the codex, hopefully that will be sorted soon. Not sure there is a great deal of point in just 3, if ya gonna spend the over-inflated points, may as well be a full 6. Think Dante works quite nicely in LaG and a jump pack captain if taking in AH. Think we have generally done okay out of the codex as a competitive force, though many of us will have lost a lot of our collection to the cuts, DC, SG potentially, liby dread, etc, which sucks. More positively though, I like the balance of detachments. 1 solid fairly easy to make use of, 1 tougher to use well, but maybe a high sealing if you can and 1 more fluffy one for the hell of it.
Super happy with the dex, sad I got back in during 9th and bought tonnes of first born cause speeder,DC,Guard, assault jump guys were all great. For the 2 yrs I've had em
i thought the angelus boltgun was gonna be better than your standard pistol, and i do miss the wings. They could have gotten smaller wings like the chaplain with jumpack got.
These seem pretty terrifying - especially on the terrain-heavy pariah boards. Synergies with the chapter-specific detachment rules too! They just don't seem to have any downsides - at least Deathwing Knights are slow and only 1OC! Gonna be very points-dependent, though.
6:08 huh it's been changed from only the warlord to any character. so on the whole thing of which captain to have leading them. Que los dos? have a 3 man with dante and another with the captain
One thing that isn’t really clear yet is if a squad with sword can actually take the banner, based on the community article. “There is also the choice to swap one of the Sanguinary Guard’s angelus boltgun to an inferno pistol, while another can upgrade their encarmine spear with a Sanguinary Banner - one of a number of rare pennants usually stored in the Blood Angels’ vaults on Baal.” That seems to indicate that you must take all spears to take the banner, but seems contradictory based on their photos and the codex doesn’t clear this up either. And if you ca take the banner with swords, does the banner bear count as a spear or sword for combat? They really should have added something like ‘One model can be equipped with 1 Sanguinary banner. This model’s Encarmine Sword must be replaced by an Encarmine Spear.’
Or: The encarmine spear is the default weapon, instead of swapping one with a sword, you swap woth the banner... if y ou can swap all the spears with the sword, you have all swords + banner... or all spear + banner, or any combination squad size can give...
@@thedevastator1994 Having a bit of a hard time trying to figure out what you are trying to say there. Even if the default weapons were spears, that doesn’t allow the swords to have a banner as the banner is physically mounted on the spear, not a separate piece of gear. So if mixed weapons aren’t allowed in some fashion, the swords can’t take a banner at all.
I'm looking through some (apparently legit) leaked photos of the Codex right now. On the Sanguinary Guard datasheet, it says "One model can be equipped with 1 Sanguinary banner". So it seems to be totally independent of loadout choice.
@@aheroforfun6401 Technically as written, it should be independent as the banner line doesn’t specify a requirement . The problem arises in that the community article say specifically the banner is on a spear and they never show a model equipped with the banner and a sword. So if you were to go off the whole “no model, no rules” or WYSIWYG, then you can’t take the banner with the swords because of the first line making it that you can’t mix weapons. Basically what I’m saying is they will either need to clarify this either in an article or errata.
Price is going to be the most important aspect really. I think anywhere close to the codex 50ppm they are not going to be good, somewhere in the 40-45ppm they should be playable.
I played a game with them last night and with the 150 points for 3 as printed in the codex they are terrible. They are basically terminators that trade 1toughness for better move so I would like to see their points be more in line with assault terms. Hopefully 120 for 3
I would definitely prefer 3 fast moving flying termies compared to 5 slow moving ones. One the biggest problems with terminators is their mobility. Sang guard fixes that. Not to mention all the detachment bonuses. You’re going to see these guys on the table at 150 or not.
@@j.k.prufrock5605The kitchen table maybe. We have advance and charge, regular termies are a much better point investment. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
I would love if they happened to be 40 PPM, but seeing as they're essentially baby Custodes, I'll take 45 Models look great, gonna try just painting normal heads gold in an attempt to not have to use the stormcast heads lmao Overall, very excited about this unit
First of I must say I miss the nipple armour. I liked it. And where are the wings? Very bad. That beeing said the model looks good. (But could have been better.) People say swords are better. I think if you have a second unit you could do spears on them. Use stratagem for lance on the first one. The second one gets lance build in.
Yeah I dont understand why the swords got ap-3 and the spears got ap-2. Wouldnt it be the other way around? I feel the book mightve been as rushed as our models
Nipples were holding them back Ther teared them from their chestplates and threw them away, like Rock Lee threw his body weights in that Naruto tournament arc
I really like them, but man I wish they would have buffed their shooting stats a bit, maybe to liken 2 shots of an absolvor bolt pistol or at least a heavy bolt pistol.
BA received better rules for their 3 man unit as a nerf than DA got for their 3 man unit as a buff. Talking about inner circle companions who doesnt even get 2+ armor or invulnerable save even though the iron halo is on the models lol
Mate, they're 66% more expensive than bgv. I agree they're slightly better, but not 66% better. Any ap2 shooting kills them just the same as bgv. 6 Bgv, a Judiciar and an impulsor will do better than a unit of 6 sg with a character every time for less points.
@@chriswinsryg2336 Sure I guess. You're just splitting hairs at that point. Sang guard don't need a giant transport for mobility You're paying for the mobility built into the unit.
let´s say they will be at 150points per 3. They are a bit to weak in my Opinion. I would give atleast 1 Inferno Pistol per 3 models so could have 2 in a 6 man group. The BOLTGUN (should be named Boltpistol) for me if hitting on 3s it should have like S5 with -1AP. Other Idea 1A BS2 S5 AP-1 D1. Melee : The Blades are Good as they are BUT the Spears are whatever. Spears should be something similar to Custodes Axes. like 2-3 Attacks WS 3, S7, AP-1, Dmg 3 with Lance.
Personally for their points I feel as though they aren’t worth 50 points, to be reasonable they should be around 40-45 points, more so the latter probably. They are good in melee but still struggle against ranged attacks
In a game where there is so much access to anti-infantry 4+ guns, theyre hardly better than terminators. So much better to just take 10 jump pack intercessors and call it a day.
Something kinda worth considering when getting these guys: their kit can basically also be built, with only minor convertion, and painted as 3 blood angels jump pack captains, or 3 blood angel captains on foot if you have spare backpacks and don't mind the poses. That makes them a very versatile kit
The only way to make the spears stronger is to increase the AP which is then no different from the sword or to make the Custodian spears which is absurd.
@@thorscape3879 just saying there is hardly a reason to take them over the swords. Lots of ways to fiddle with them to make them balanced against each other.
@@kristoforperkola6923 Not really. The base profile is too good to do anything else to without making one the default go to. Small differences are the only thing reasonable on a profile that good.
They really need to stop making Stormcast Space Marines. I don't like the Stormcast look, and it looks really bad when incorporated into marine (or inquisitor) designs.
I've been worried about these guys. Its not just the sculpts, GW seems to see the lore and think the rules they wrote are better than they are. They've been overcosted for so long.
I understand that they don't have wings. But the wings can go as new models have better proportions now. I like the new models more. I like the primaris versions of each models than the 1st borns. Why? because when you observe the 1st born models their proportion is whack they have big upper bodies small legs which looks stupid for me. I like the new sanguinary guards because of proportions like the primaris, they look more badass. Sorry not sorry.
"new Sanguinary guard"? I'm confused, the SG got axed due to lack of Artificer in the chapters......never heard of a new one I don't think giving them wings would even save these models tbh
Can someone please explain to me why the Dante model is generally loved but the new Sanguinary Guard are generally despised? It's the exact same armor so what's the problem?
It's also not the same armor at all. Dante has better sculpting on his arms and legs and isn't a resculpted jump assault intercessor with a recycled stormcast mask.
I have the Lt Titus model and thought he'd make a good BA Captain. I was about to start shaving off the Ultramarine icons but I decided I'd just leave them on, paint him red and name him Captain Sethwaas Wright 😂😂😂
The rules are great, but the models are too bland and bloated, the pouches on their belts making them look like potatoes. As it stands, the kit is only good for bits harvesting and acting as a platform to put the old Sanguinary Guard parts onto to make a proper winged, Angelic bodyguard unit. Man, they really blew it with these guys.
"How Strong are They"? Who cares, they are awful single pose models. These look like trash. To me, this is like arguing about how many mario karts primaris armies should bring with their floating tanks.
It’s almost like a newer model could fix that by design Granted I’ve had the old ones since they came out And the only time the wings came off is when I took them off to find away to put them on the new ones
You know, to those who say the new sanguinary guard look like Stormcast… if anything the old ones look more like old Stormcast models with worse proportions, with their more pronounced spiky helmets along with the wings.
@@kookooburu they have a better save which is a big deal cause BG's die alot to low ap firepower. And they move twice as fast which IS a big deal. Also S6 instead of S5 which matters sometimes. Finally AP-3 is a big upgrade. They are not on the same level
@MattDer-ff2us 6 BGV, a judiciar/captain in an impulsor will out compete them every time for less points than a unit of 6 SG with a character. Any ap 2 shooting picks these guys up the same as bgv. All detachments have access to advance + charge so I'm not worried about getting into melee. Jump intercessors and van vets already move 12" which is more relevant for secondaries, that you don't want a ~400pt unit doing. For reference, exalted 8 bound are 50ppm and they are worth it, but they make these guys look like bitches, and they don't need to pay the character tax for their abilities.
@@kookooburu Terminators are 35. These guys have termy defence, but better offence, and much, much better mobility(the big termy downside). I think they can't be less than 40ppm.
Someone get those boys some redbull.
and nipples and axes
As most probably will, i plan on getting 6 and throwing Dante or a Captain in the squad. "Flying Bladeguard Veterans" with even better melee profiles is pretty wild and generally very useful.
GW need to errata that in 6 man units you can take at least 2 Inferno pistols, not just 1...which is just stupid based on what everyone will model from the box! 😓
Damn these guys look cool, they should give them some wings or something...
See those tiny little things on the jump pack? They are wings 🤣😂
Mom said it was my turn to jump on the bandwagon
Naah that would make them look terrible, like some sort of 2000s first born trash
@@stevethegeckotv Sounds an awful lot like Heresy.
@@Serviner that’s what a heretic would say
They'd look ten times better with the wings.
Still miss the wings, but these look super scary in combat with the detachment rules.
I think the best character to attach them to is a Thunder Hammer+Storm Shield Jump Captain. It’s a unit that WANTS to be in melee, has some added durability and a strong weapon. So the defense buffs really help out.
You made a bit of a mistake, Auspex. The thumbnail clearly shows an old Stormcast.
Honestly, the new SG are perfectly fine, BUT they would be great IF THEY HAD THE WINGS!
When's the next Field Manual? I'd like to know the Blood Angels actual points vs the Codex
Not until the regular coxed is released.
We all do. None of this matters until we know the points.
150p is valid for what they can do.
I might be entirely alone in this, but.. I actually prefer the SG without wings, if only for personal bias; see, my favorite unit Editions past was the Honour Guard, those gold-plated fly boys I kitted out and had with my HQs, and when those went out of favor or altogether, the new (annoying to assemble) SG just didn't fill that void for me.
I totally get the feelings on the wings being clipped, or the "downgrade" in embellishments fans feel, but for me? I come from older times when the models weren't blinged out, so I guess I'm just more comfortable?
Either way, I respect the stances, and respect the Primarch level of effort you always give Auspex, I come here for news and info because it's always so swift and reliable! Thank you! :)
“Angelic” - if you say so Auspex…
And yet space marines are the angels of death
We couldn't make the Spears damage 3 or something? Cause apparently it's forbidden that one of the best Melee armies isn't allowed any Damage 3 weapons on its unique units.
Or characters either
Happened to dark angels too
@@TheCoremeltdownI mean at least Azrael gets -4 AP I was asking for that at least. But seriously what the Hell? Why is almost every Infantry Space Marines unit 2 damage?!
@@stripeybag6977same with Grey knights
Because most space marines are 2 wounds or 3-4 for elites. If anything they should nerf all other armies who still have access to dmg3 weapons to even the field.
Las time I was this early, Sanguinary Guard still had wings...
And nipples 😂
And nips. And personality
Last time I was this early, Sanguinius was still alive
Wings or no wings don’t matter to me, I don’t care.
@@AngelofDeath333
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Ubridled Ardour is re-roll all hits AND all wounds. Quite nasty if used correctly, basically sacrifice some JAIs units to a key enemy unit and have full re-rolls with san guard.
Deffinitly over-pointed with the codex, hopefully that will be sorted soon. Not sure there is a great deal of point in just 3, if ya gonna spend the over-inflated points, may as well be a full 6. Think Dante works quite nicely in LaG and a jump pack captain if taking in AH. Think we have generally done okay out of the codex as a competitive force, though many of us will have lost a lot of our collection to the cuts, DC, SG potentially, liby dread, etc, which sucks.
More positively though, I like the balance of detachments. 1 solid fairly easy to make use of, 1 tougher to use well, but maybe a high sealing if you can and 1 more fluffy one for the hell of it.
Super happy with the dex, sad I got back in during 9th and bought tonnes of first born cause speeder,DC,Guard, assault jump guys were all great. For the 2 yrs I've had em
I genuinely like them and love the spears even if they’re not really the best choice
I agree 💯, the spears are dope
i thought the angelus boltgun was gonna be better than your standard pistol, and i do miss the wings. They could have gotten smaller wings like the chaplain with jumpack got.
Look how they massacred my boys
Better than the sanguinor or gaberiel(the black winged fellow?) imo. Their pose is extremely fucking awkward.
@@keyanklupacs6333that’s astorath
@@keyanklupacs6333The guy with wings is Astorath.
These seem pretty terrifying - especially on the terrain-heavy pariah boards. Synergies with the chapter-specific detachment rules too! They just don't seem to have any downsides - at least Deathwing Knights are slow and only 1OC! Gonna be very points-dependent, though.
Greytide studio backpacks problem solved
That'd be great if they didn't come out from kickstarter late October. Honestly they really missed the mark with their release
Sure if you want GW to think
"Wow we don't have to do shit with these models people will just buy them anyway"
6:08 huh it's been changed from only the warlord to any character. so on the whole thing of which captain to have leading them. Que los dos? have a 3 man with dante and another with the captain
One thing that isn’t really clear yet is if a squad with sword can actually take the banner, based on the community article.
“There is also the choice to swap one of the Sanguinary Guard’s angelus boltgun to an inferno pistol, while another can upgrade their encarmine spear with a Sanguinary Banner - one of a number of rare pennants usually stored in the Blood Angels’ vaults on Baal.”
That seems to indicate that you must take all spears to take the banner, but seems contradictory based on their photos and the codex doesn’t clear this up either. And if you ca take the banner with swords, does the banner bear count as a spear or sword for combat? They really should have added something like ‘One model can be equipped with 1 Sanguinary banner. This model’s Encarmine Sword must be replaced by an Encarmine Spear.’
Annoying ey?
Or: The encarmine spear is the default weapon, instead of swapping one with a sword, you swap woth the banner... if y ou can swap all the spears with the sword, you have all swords + banner... or all spear + banner, or any combination squad size can give...
@@thedevastator1994 Having a bit of a hard time trying to figure out what you are trying to say there. Even if the default weapons were spears, that doesn’t allow the swords to have a banner as the banner is physically mounted on the spear, not a separate piece of gear. So if mixed weapons aren’t allowed in some fashion, the swords can’t take a banner at all.
I'm looking through some (apparently legit) leaked photos of the Codex right now. On the Sanguinary Guard datasheet, it says "One model can be equipped with 1 Sanguinary banner". So it seems to be totally independent of loadout choice.
@@aheroforfun6401 Technically as written, it should be independent as the banner line doesn’t specify a requirement . The problem arises in that the community article say specifically the banner is on a spear and they never show a model equipped with the banner and a sword. So if you were to go off the whole “no model, no rules” or WYSIWYG, then you can’t take the banner with the swords because of the first line making it that you can’t mix weapons. Basically what I’m saying is they will either need to clarify this either in an article or errata.
Price is going to be the most important aspect really. I think anywhere close to the codex 50ppm they are not going to be good, somewhere in the 40-45ppm they should be playable.
Definitely getting these boys and throwing on some 3d printed wings
I played a game with them last night and with the 150 points for 3 as printed in the codex they are terrible. They are basically terminators that trade 1toughness for better move so I would like to see their points be more in line with assault terms. Hopefully 120 for 3
Definetly not. They are too good for being anything less than 140
I would definitely prefer 3 fast moving flying termies compared to 5 slow moving ones. One the biggest problems with terminators is their mobility. Sang guard fixes that. Not to mention all the detachment bonuses. You’re going to see these guys on the table at 150 or not.
@@j.k.prufrock5605The kitchen table maybe. We have advance and charge, regular termies are a much better point investment. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
I would love if they happened to be 40 PPM, but seeing as they're essentially baby Custodes, I'll take 45
Models look great, gonna try just painting normal heads gold in an attempt to not have to use the stormcast heads lmao
Overall, very excited about this unit
They should be OC2 base and the Banner makes them OC3 each...
They look great in Ultramarine blue. Wouldn’t mind running them as Vanguard Vets
Lore fitting, since all Marines aspire to be Ultramarines.
First of I must say I miss the nipple armour. I liked it. And where are the wings? Very bad. That beeing said the model looks good. (But could have been better.)
People say swords are better. I think if you have a second unit you could do spears on them. Use stratagem for lance on the first one. The second one gets lance build in.
Green stuff fixes the nipple dilemma 😂
Kinda hard to see how strong they are without points tho
Yeah I dont understand why the swords got ap-3 and the spears got ap-2. Wouldnt it be the other way around? I feel the book mightve been as rushed as our models
The spears need to be base Str 8 to be even considered over the swords sadly... 😢
Thanks for the video
Nipples were holding them back
Ther teared them from their chestplates and threw them away, like Rock Lee threw his body weights in that Naruto tournament arc
They are a complete down grade
Angelus Boltguns need AP1 back desperately...potentially even AP2!
Boltguns in GENERAL need a bump in AP.
GROUND MARINES, CHAAAAAAAARGE!
I would love if the points went down just a smidge and the spears were a bit more usable compared to the swords
I really like them, but man I wish they would have buffed their shooting stats a bit, maybe to liken 2 shots of an absolvor bolt pistol or at least a heavy bolt pistol.
BA received better rules for their 3 man unit as a nerf than DA got for their 3 man unit as a buff. Talking about inner circle companions who doesnt even get 2+ armor or invulnerable save even though the iron halo is on the models lol
Hey it could be worse. Could be Dex Marines xD
@@basteala525 but we are running dex marines :D
Seems pretty balanced. Basically a jump pack bodyguard unit rather than a foot slogging one like Bladeguard.
Mate, they're 66% more expensive than bgv. I agree they're slightly better, but not 66% better. Any ap2 shooting kills them just the same as bgv. 6 Bgv, a Judiciar and an impulsor will do better than a unit of 6 sg with a character every time for less points.
@@chriswinsryg2336 Sure I guess. You're just splitting hairs at that point. Sang guard don't need a giant transport for mobility You're paying for the mobility built into the unit.
let´s say they will be at 150points per 3. They are a bit to weak in my Opinion. I would give atleast 1 Inferno Pistol per 3 models so could have 2 in a 6 man group. The BOLTGUN (should be named Boltpistol) for me if hitting on 3s it should have like S5 with -1AP. Other Idea 1A BS2 S5 AP-1 D1.
Melee :
The Blades are Good as they are BUT the Spears are whatever. Spears should be something similar to Custodes Axes. like 2-3 Attacks WS 3, S7, AP-1, Dmg 3 with Lance.
I still like the new models
Me too. I like them more actually. The old wings seemed too small and derpy and the old heads were way too big.
Any idea when Blood Angels get their points ?
Personally for their points I feel as though they aren’t worth 50 points, to be reasonable they should be around 40-45 points, more so the latter probably. They are good in melee but still struggle against ranged attacks
So much waiting for a new Jetpack Veterans. i'm starting a Raven guard arùy and it ùakes me really sad that lightning almost does not exist anymore.
I feel like they will be in the 11th edition launch box since we got Blades in 9th and Sterns in 10th.
Where are these for sale?
In a game where there is so much access to anti-infantry 4+ guns, theyre hardly better than terminators.
So much better to just take 10 jump pack intercessors and call it a day.
Honestly I like them
Van Vets are probably gone from competitive considering the Sang Priest can't join them anymore
The new models should be called Sans-Wingery Guard!
Oh that's way more clever than my Stormguinary Guard 😂
@@carysage it came to me a few days ago and i had to tell the people!
Something kinda worth considering when getting these guys: their kit can basically also be built, with only minor convertion, and painted as 3 blood angels jump pack captains, or 3 blood angel captains on foot if you have spare backpacks and don't mind the poses. That makes them a very versatile kit
Sanguinary Stormcast Eternals
Stormguinary Guard 😂😂😂😂
Wow…those spears are Bizarrely underwhelming
New models aside, I wish the lances were stronger and that the angelous boltguns felt more special. They have unique ammo in the lore.
The only way to make the spears stronger is to increase the AP which is then no different from the sword or to make the Custodian spears which is absurd.
@@thorscape3879 just saying there is hardly a reason to take them over the swords. Lots of ways to fiddle with them to make them balanced against each other.
@@kristoforperkola6923 Not really. The base profile is too good to do anything else to without making one the default go to.
Small differences are the only thing reasonable on a profile that good.
@@thorscape3879 A reasonable take.
Why do swords have higher AP then spears that should be reversed
Damn, never been this early before
Have a set of the old sanguinary guard... might keep them. Cause man the downgrade is real. :/
Same. Just gonna re-base mine.
I have already pulled the wings and helmets from my old ones to put on the new ones
With such an iconic looking unit why GW went so lazy with the design is frustrating.
They really need to stop making Stormcast Space Marines. I don't like the Stormcast look, and it looks really bad when incorporated into marine (or inquisitor) designs.
I've been worried about these guys. Its not just the sculpts, GW seems to see the lore and think the rules they wrote are better than they are. They've been overcosted for so long.
Yeah the models still look like down grades.
I understand that they don't have wings. But the wings can go as new models have better proportions now. I like the new models more. I like the primaris versions of each models than the 1st borns. Why? because when you observe the 1st born models their proportion is whack they have big upper bodies small legs which looks stupid for me. I like the new sanguinary guards because of proportions like the primaris, they look more badass. Sorry not sorry.
"new Sanguinary guard"? I'm confused, the SG got axed due to lack of Artificer in the chapters......never heard of a new one
I don't think giving them wings would even save these models tbh
it would be stronger if they where not just flying stormcast custodian guard rejects.
Like their new look, but.. let's see what points they get.
They took the axes, the wings, and the helmets. L models
Even the power fist
Hopefully they eventually get pointed properly, man they just look so bad 😭
I need some 40mm bases now lol
#notmysangguard
Can someone please explain to me why the Dante model is generally loved but the new Sanguinary Guard are generally despised?
It's the exact same armor so what's the problem?
Dante never had wings. It's a stupid reason, but that's the reason.
@@thorscape3879 Ahhh. Thanks!
It's also not the same armor at all. Dante has better sculpting on his arms and legs and isn't a resculpted jump assault intercessor with a recycled stormcast mask.
God their death masks are so incredibly ugly.
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I do not care how good they on on tabletop, i am not buying those models
I Amwhile they currently suck it’s nothing afew fixes can’t help
Those who hate the wings I don’t care about y’all’s opinions, I’ll still be buying these models
Thanks for making the hobbie worse.
@@sagacity1071 I don’t care about your opinion
#SethWasRight
I have the Lt Titus model and thought he'd make a good BA Captain.
I was about to start shaving off the Ultramarine icons but I decided I'd just leave them on, paint him red and name him Captain Sethwaas Wright 😂😂😂
The rules are great, but the models are too bland and bloated, the pouches on their belts making them look like potatoes. As it stands, the kit is only good for bits harvesting and acting as a platform to put the old Sanguinary Guard parts onto to make a proper winged, Angelic bodyguard unit. Man, they really blew it with these guys.
"How Strong are They"? Who cares, they are awful single pose models. These look like trash. To me, this is like arguing about how many mario karts primaris armies should bring with their floating tanks.
Look especially worse when you put them alongside Sword Brethen and Inner Circle Co.
Man everyone keeps talking about the missing wings. I own the old models. The wings break off and get lost constantly. Not worth it.
It’s almost like a newer model could fix that by design
Granted I’ve had the old ones since they came out
And the only time the wings came off is when I took them off to find away to put them on the new ones
Ugly out of 10.
Actually the ugliest damn kit they've released in years. Apart from Coteaz. God GW have sucked this year
You know, to those who say the new sanguinary guard look like Stormcast… if anything the old ones look more like old Stormcast models with worse proportions, with their more pronounced spiky helmets along with the wings.
Hot take: Sanguinary guard without wings look way better and Blood Angels fans disagree because they like tacky designs like the rest of the range.
New models definitely look better.
So much better. Those wings were goofy af.
No these model are just stormcast GW couldn’t sell the old ones are better in every way except scale
Granted they are a a good base and can be fixed
All the whinny boys in the comments xD ... the Honour Guard of Dante!
another victim of the WOKEhammer movement
Yeah, I don't understand nipple removal.
Removing nipples is woke ? Lmao, what you smoking man?
They had to remove the nipples to desexualize them for female Space Marines. That way the Femguinary Guard don't draw the male gaze.
Mainly a victim of the phoning it in, corporate greed, stifling of talent, sanitisation movement
We'll all miss them sexy nips
At 50ppm modles their overcoasted.
If they were 30-35 maybe.
30 is the same as bladeguard… and they’re way better than bg
I think 40 ppm would make them good
@@Youschnoob649idk about way better, they're pretty similar. They'd be fine at 35 imo
@@kookooburu they have a better save which is a big deal cause BG's die alot to low ap firepower. And they move twice as fast which IS a big deal. Also S6 instead of S5 which matters sometimes. Finally AP-3 is a big upgrade. They are not on the same level
@MattDer-ff2us 6 BGV, a judiciar/captain in an impulsor will out compete them every time for less points than a unit of 6 SG with a character. Any ap 2 shooting picks these guys up the same as bgv. All detachments have access to advance + charge so I'm not worried about getting into melee. Jump intercessors and van vets already move 12" which is more relevant for secondaries, that you don't want a ~400pt unit doing. For reference, exalted 8 bound are 50ppm and they are worth it, but they make these guys look like bitches, and they don't need to pay the character tax for their abilities.
@@kookooburu Terminators are 35. These guys have termy defence, but better offence, and much, much better mobility(the big termy downside). I think they can't be less than 40ppm.
You cannot have meaningful discussions because people who own no blood angels models are upset at them again😂
Except plenty of us own thousands of points of BA and are beyond disappointed
I can assure you people who own blood angels are the most upset about this garbage slop
9k of BA collected over 14 years in the hobby, can confirm this release sucks total shit, the kit is horrendous
You're allowed to be wrong mate, just don't go announcing it publicly
Found the guy that works at GW. Did James Workshop have a gun to your head when you wrote this
Spears should have been s7.
Really don't like them do won't be buying any. Much prefer my old guard 🪽