Arsenal fans and most neutrals think the ref was shambolic today. City fans think he got the decisions right. But we can all agree Arsenal were fantastic today before the red card and held out brilliantly after it, without even talking about the refs.
i honestly can see brighton only getting better and better and even push for european football next season , interesting team to watch , and considering their ''sister team'' is absolutely bonkers currently they can bring in good players from that team to , im sure 2 of em would fit in the prem very well brightons future is bright
That's our problem to a tee. When we brought in Welbz we thought he was going to help us convincingly push for Europe which we mightve done if he wasn't injured. The bissouma trouble hasn't helped either. If we can get someone like an Abraham or Toney etc etc we can do really well especially with Potters style of play
@@nathanchappell9572 It’s funny. My stepdad said we should’ve gotten Toney when he was at Peterborough in league 1 (could’ve been league 2). That was a couple years ago. Imagine we got him early on 🤩
@@dvorse_2719 he seems as if he is saving your squad because he is the pivot and he should be saving the team being there. But the problem with that is that it removes the qualities of the other member of the team. Being a messi fan boy doesnt retract the fact in what a person sees
@@abTOTY yea for them Ronaldo is the defender, midfielder and attacker. All at the same time. Players at the back are shambolic for example like maguire who can't even defend, is slow, poor at everything. We don't have a defensive mid which is crucial. Ofc it would have made a difference. Hopefully we sign them in January for Godsake. Fred and mctominay are not dm's. Matic is old and he is the only one we have rn. That's why we need something in that area.
@@dvorse_2719 just because he is a Messi fan , doesn't mean that he is going to talk bad about Ronaldo,I am a Messi fan doesn't mean I will always antagonize Ronaldo. He is just speaking the bitter truth about the club.
I'm a chelsea fan and theo is speaking facts cuz lukaku I thought that he'll be one of the signings in a while but the fact that lukaku is disrespecting the club like the is insane
If Leeds sell Raphinia they will go down as he is there only source of creativity, Bielsa should go at the end of the season as I think he has done really well there but can’t take them further
He has done the most he can with the squad he has at his disposal, I think he will leave at the end of the season but he could definitely do better with a better team
@@BobbyDB he hasn't though has he, failing to play gelhardt, bate, playing players who are out of form and playing players out of position, he can do better
I agree with some of your points with Ronaldo, I feel like all juventus had to do, which now Man U need to do now. Is Ralf needs to get it through their players heads is to not rely on Ronaldo
I’m just going to say ronaldo didn’t ruin Greenwood or Bruno they just haven’t been themselves lately you said ronaldo making cavani bad cavani has been outstanding
2 goals and no assists in 10 appearances playing centre forward, one of which is against a squad currently facing relegation? Thats considered outstanding? Hes also struggling to find game time, competing with ronaldo for the CF position most games, and having an injury for 2 months.
Look at benzema, juve. There's a reason ronaldo was benched at the last match and juve got to top 4 without him (everyone played superb without him). There's a reason no top managers want him because fanbois (waste of earth) always blame manager not their precious goat. Just focus on ronaldo and watch what he does for 90 mins (spoiler: nothing)
They didn't sack Hodgson though... he stepped down himself. He quoted: I just don't like that idea that you have a fanfare and retire from football as if retiring from life. I still have energy and enthusiasm to do other things but I don't have any plans or goals.
Timo can make the best runs but his finishing can let him down. I suspect he’ll be more involved with link up play instead of being the source of through balls.
Theo I understand your point with Ronaldo but do you think in attack all there thinking about is passing to Ronaldo? Last season Bruno was having shots from anywhere etc… you sont see him do that anymore!
Yeah, I totally agree with you Thogden. When lukaku left inter everybody thought it was the end of their glory. By signing cheep and good players, like Dumfries and Dzeko. Dzeko preformes even better than Lukaku, Inter are even through in CL!
How has ragnick got 13 points from 5 games? He's only managed 4 in the prem, 3W and a draw, and the only other game he managed was in CL which was a draw? So that would be 11 points in 5 in all comps? Correct me if wrong?
As a Liverpool fan I feel nothing but satisfaction when I watch these old vids when Liverpool were written off by everyone from the title and now we are just one point off Man City and we have the opportunity to surpass them this Sunday
Although I agree with the ronaldo taking away from players I generally don’t think that applies to Bruno fernanades. If you watch the passes those 2 make u can see their chemistry is incredible. I hope United find form soon because they’ve got the players to win the season (which btw isn’t gonna happen) so they can at least get top four with their potential.
I think you could finish anywhere from 4th to 8th. Realistically I can’t see united finishing outside the top 4. Then it’s a scrap between you, Tottenham and West Ham
@@jgtt5918 tbf United are struggling to beat Newcastle and Norwich, if it was arsenal, everyone would be talking about relegation. Having good players is one thing, playing well as a team is another.
@@afcshem I agree but they’ve took 12 from 15 and things can only really get better for them under ragnick. The quality of players will always help them get points
@@jgtt5918 not against Newcastle it didn’t 🤷♂️ sure the only way is up from here for them, but no necessarily up into the top 4 imo. I think Tottenham are the current favourites at the minute alongside arsenal. 🤔
Ronaldo is the only player in the history of the sport that can get 17 G+A in 21 matches and is still accused of being “the problem” on the team. That’s why he’s the goat. I mean, Theo basically said it himself. Ronaldo is just too good for everyone. His standards for himself are so high that his teammates can’t keep up. What a player🇵🇹🐐
All he does is sit in the penalty box and tap in goals that were created by his teammates, and take penalties. He doesn't provide anything defensively, he doesn't even create space when attacking. Ronaldo is aging, he's nothing like the deadly winger he used to be a decade ago, and he isnt what man united need.
What you said about ronaldo is bizarre. Your basically saying you wouldn’t want ronaldo In your team. I’m not even a ronaldo fan as I prefer messi. When ronaldo was at Real Madrid that team won champions leagues , la liga, the Spanish cup.Also look at his goal involvement’s for Juventus and this season for man united. Football is a team game you saw that when he was at Juventus and this season at Man United.
On the CR7 thing my opinion is no one in the Man Utd team is better than Ronaldo and everyone else gets worse simply because they think they don't have to try as hard as they had to before!! Ppl will blame their bad form on "Everything has to go to CR7" but the reality is Real Madrid's success was because their players didn't care if the focus was Ronaldo and they kept working as hard as they can! I've seen the "Ronaldo is a bad team player because he doesn't press" BS when almost no one in that team presses, and even when you press you need to do it as a team which Man Utd don't!! If you know about football you know it's waste of energy pressing by yourself unless there's a mistake from the opponent! Personally I think the Man Utd players do want to work hard and it's about fixing tactics and teamwork and I also think CR7 criticism is based on a myth that Man U were world class before when they couldn't even win UEL last season
Instead of focusing in the attack for Manchester United, the problem to solve is their tragic defence... Maguire is very inconsistent, Lindelof and Bailly are decent and Varane is world class but be needs to improve his form... They need a defensive midfielder as well, bc you cannot go anywhere with Mcfred. Instead of blaming Ronaldo for getting all the attention up front (which is not wrong but also not entirely right) try and focus on more important things that Ralf has to solve than him. Its not about getting all the attention, its about playing well and being in form, no world class player gets outshined by any teammate of his.
Mc Fred are defo not champions league quality , totally agree. McTominay has one good game in every eight, Fred simply is not good enough . Matic is too laboured and slow in his passing .
You're point with Ronaldo making Man U worse, I feel the same with the Swedish national team and Zlatan Ibrahimovic. I won't deny that he is an incredible footballer and a Swedish sports icon, but the national team is better of without him
Although I think Ronaldo’s the best player ever and I am a man united fan I believe that Ronaldo has made United worse because this time last season we were first I think. Also Bruno and Greenwood and Rashford were all doing brilliant but now Ronaldo is in he’s the only player who’s really performing. But since Rangick has been manager Ronnie has scored 2 goals in like 5 or 6 games so yeah I think the 2nd half of the season will be better. Happy new year.
Personally I feel like when David raya comes back in goal for Brentford they could honestly push for top 10 when he returns because in his 9 games this season before injury he had 3 clean sheets compared to Fernandez 1 clean sheet in 10 games. So he could be the difference of Brentford not losing crucial points
Stop causing Drama with Lukaku the Media twisted his words and if you don’t bekeive me watch Tuchel Interview he said Lukaku feels the opposite and loves chelsea and Tuchel
You lot love ronaldo over your own club, and as a liverpool fan i absolutely love it. You are sacrifising the other qualities if your side for a sui celebration😂😂
I'm a Liverpool fan and i have to say Liverpool are disgraceful these days should be second and going toe to toe with city disgraceful for our standards how we have fallen 😐😕😡
Although I love Ronaldo , I agree with thogden as in juventus they were on a monstrous win streak in serie a before Ronaldo came . I’m not hating on Ronaldo he is the best footballer in the world along side messi but he should have gone to a club that is struggling
Ronaldo gets hate after having loads of contributions about making utd worse and yet almost nobody talks about Messi strolling about on the pitch every game for psg.
@@Ay44n192 and u think that's not to do with the manager or terrible performances from our midfield and defence? Ronaldo is 36 and now his role is as a world class striker. When he gets chances he will decide games, as you have seen on a number of occasions this season.
It’s not Ronaldo’s fault that he has lazy teammates that aren’t willing to put in the work to improve their game. You talked about Ronaldo “making Greenwood worse”. Hell, Greenwood should be the most grateful player on the team. He literally has one of the greatest players in the history of the sport as a teammate and instead of learning from him and improving, he’s just becoming lazy. Ronaldo is the last person you should be blaming for United’s shit season.
Facts! He "makes" everyone else worse because they think they don't have to work as hard as they did before when their mentality should be to work just as hard because CR7 does make your team better!! I think Man Utd players do want to work hard but they haven't because of disappointing results so clearly tactics & teamwork needs to be focused in training
I think that's his point... That they wouldn't be in the position of almost losing in the first place if they didn't have Ronaldo. Not saying that i agree, but im pretty sure that's what he meant.
No I think he knows what he brings, I mean its Ronaldo ffs, but everything is around him, compared to how lots of players were contributing last season, like Bruno, Greenwood, Cavani etc. And about Bruno - he's shit for Portugal time and time again because of Ronaldo - he takes all of the resposibility away from him and he doesn't like that. He needs to be the focal point of the team and others can feed off him
I get what he's saying but the biggest problem is the midfield and the defence. Its not like united are struggling at the attack, and its not like Ronaldo is not scoring the chances hes getting. U can just watch any of the past 5 united matches then u will understand the problems.
He's speaking facts tho. Ronaldo can score the odd tap ins and pens against your Burnleys but ultimately man utd have declined massively from last season. Their system has changed to 'pass to Ronaldo the whingebag'
Top boys but always get it slightly wrong with leeds. Sean dyche wouldn’t have ever got 9th place with our team last season and bielsa has tactically outclassed him since leeds got promoted (3 wins, 1 draw). Not enough attention made towards our injuries which have killed our season so far, Phillips, rodrigo, bamford, llorente, cooper, koch, firpo, Shackleton, Ayling, strujik, forshaw, etc all key players for us and have missed large amounts of the season. Any team would be a shadow of themselves with so many injury issues. With reference to city, this proves my point, last season our full team vs city - 2-1 win and 1-1 draw, this season less than half our team - 7-0
May I just correct the Leeds United situation, first of all, its not just a "few" inuries, its loads, and im talking the longest list in the prem, and yes, the do have good squad depth just not the same quality as the first team. Now robberies also come into play, games like Spurs, Newcastle, West Ham, etc. theyve all robbed Leeds a few points, so my predicition is that when Leeds sign 2 to 3 players in January and players start to get fit theyll fight for top 10 again, no second season syndrome bullshit, you need to cut them some slack, and it would also help if VAR sort theyre shit out as well, no more Dean Smith and Anthony Taylor being refs for Leeds games. Oh BTW, Meslier > Ramsdale any day of the week. Meslier top 3 best keepers in the league easily
mate how about talking about psg they have gone from best to their worst with just the addition of one player but their its the managers fault whereas with manchester united its ronaldo's fault
Its about the PL not CL m8 and its a fact that CR7 wants to score every chance even tho somebody else might have a better chance and PSG signed Messi, Ramos, Winaldum, Nuno Mendes, Donnarumma and Hakimi United signed Sancho and Cr7
Thogden bro when united don’t have Ronaldo in their side they’ve lost I understand what u mean cause the pressure and attention Ronaldo makes but that isn’t Ronaldo’s fault he’s the goat 🐐☺️
@@Zack_410 True, I'm not saying it's his fault that other players fail under the pressure of playing with him. It's just sad to see a team like United struggle. With Ronaldo on the pitch players like Greenwood and Rashford can't play how they used to do, same goes for Bruno. They have a lot of worldclass players but it doesn't really work out. But I'm sure United will be back on top one day
I don't think Ronaldo ruined man Utd it's just that when he goes to a team the spotlights on him and he is the main man of the team where ever he goes that's the problem
He destroys the team playing style and makes other world class players average. Look at benzema, juve. There's a reason goal hanger was benched in the last juve match otherwise they wouldn't be in top 4. No managers wanted him except ole 😂. He gives a lot of burden to managers too because fanbois just blame managers for Ronaldo's playstyle (spoiler: his playstyle is just sit in front of goal and he is guaranteed a goal)
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Fanbois never blame Ronaldo 😂. They always blame managers that's why no managers wanted him. Ole didn't tell ronaldo to play bad and just look for penalty, rebounds, tap ins. Ole's tactics were right but ronaldo was not qualified to do it , he is horrible at pressing and teamwork. When ronaldo attemps a press, midfielders try to support him, causing the defenders to change their positions too to support the pressing but since ronaldo almost always fails at pressing the tactics never work and defense gets vulnerable.
Facts regarding Ronaldo... if I was in a spot where I needed a 90+ goal to get a win... I would want him. Most other times I would take someone else who is considered one of the best in the world (lets say Messi) over him without a seconds thought.
3:14 may I point out we filmed this before Watford vs Tottenham too 👀
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What’s the point? Unless ur gonna watch only ur teams prediction this is pountless
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@@cjstudios1467 thanks
Thanks for the apology as well. Arsenal have been very good this season and that game against city we played outstanding but just got so unlucky
We’ll go again my fellow gooner lets get 4th COYG 🔴⚪️
No you played really well but because arteta wasn't there all the players lost there heads and made stupid fouls
Arsenal fans and most neutrals think the ref was shambolic today. City fans think he got the decisions right. But we can all agree Arsenal were fantastic today before the red card and held out brilliantly after it, without even talking about the refs.
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Happy new year Thogden and Thogdad , and I'm overjoyed by West Hams progress this year, Jarrod Bowen has been smashing it
Come on you irons ⚒
he is my fav player! He is insane!
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@Charlie Lamacraft Have a day off mate. Cheers xx
@Charlie Lamacraft we the 2nd only team to beat both mmanchesters in one english cup, beat almost all top 6 teams like you having a laugh
Can we just appreciate these two. Thogdad with the ball experience and Thogden with the ball knowledge both with some great predictions
Their ball Knowledge is horrific 😂
Thogden has no ball knowledge
the greenwood thing didnt end well
Brighton play incredible attacking football, they just need more decisiveness and better finishing in the final third
factos👀
i honestly can see brighton only getting better and better and even push for european football next season , interesting team to watch , and considering their ''sister team'' is absolutely bonkers currently they can bring in good players from that team to , im sure 2 of em would fit in the prem very well
brightons future is bright
That's our problem to a tee. When we brought in Welbz we thought he was going to help us convincingly push for Europe which we mightve done if he wasn't injured. The bissouma trouble hasn't helped either. If we can get someone like an Abraham or Toney etc etc we can do really well especially with Potters style of play
@@nathanchappell9572 It’s funny. My stepdad said we should’ve gotten Toney when he was at Peterborough in league 1 (could’ve been league 2). That was a couple years ago. Imagine we got him early on 🤩
I agree, love them! as a neutral.
Theo's anger opening up in this video lol, right points imo about ronaldo and lukaku tho
He Is a Messi Fan boy of course He Is going to talk shit about Ronaldo Even tho he Is saving the team
@@dvorse_2719 he seems as if he is saving your squad because he is the pivot and he should be saving the team being there. But the problem with that is that it removes the qualities of the other member of the team. Being a messi fan boy doesnt retract the fact in what a person sees
@@perswaysive so we are concededing because of ronaldo ?
@@abTOTY yea for them Ronaldo is the defender, midfielder and attacker. All at the same time. Players at the back are shambolic for example like maguire who can't even defend, is slow, poor at everything. We don't have a defensive mid which is crucial. Ofc it would have made a difference. Hopefully we sign them in January for Godsake. Fred and mctominay are not dm's. Matic is old and he is the only one we have rn. That's why we need something in that area.
@@dvorse_2719 just because he is a Messi fan , doesn't mean that he is going to talk bad about Ronaldo,I am a Messi fan doesn't mean I will always antagonize Ronaldo. He is just speaking the bitter truth about the club.
Theo spitting absolute facts this vid
Completely right!
Thogden facts
He was not afraid to say ronaldo negatively affects his teammates 😂
Thank you thogden and thogdad for being so kind to Southampton my team 😁😁
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I'm a chelsea fan and theo is speaking facts cuz lukaku I thought that he'll be one of the signings in a while but the fact that lukaku is disrespecting the club like the is insane
It’s one thing to play poor but a whole another to say you wanna go back soon🤣🤣
ofc its gonna hurt leaving a club like Inter. Inter are a much bigger club than Chelsea, chelsea are like man city and psg. Oil club smh.
How many chances are created for him every game most games he doesn't even touch the ball in the box
@@ivarpihlblad5142 🤡🤡 how many trophies as Inter won in the last 10years🙄. PS Abramovich is not an oil mogul, he's business mogul
@@MogajiMohammed you were crap before he came to your club so 🤫
If Leeds sell Raphinia they will go down as he is there only source of creativity, Bielsa should go at the end of the season as I think he has done really well there but can’t take them further
Bielsa is out of his depth imo hands down the most overrated mangers Ive ever come across
No one else will with that horrific injury list, even without raphinia those below would still struggle to get above leeds
He has done the most he can with the squad he has at his disposal, I think he will leave at the end of the season but he could definitely do better with a better team
@@BobbyDB he hasn't though has he, failing to play gelhardt, bate, playing players who are out of form and playing players out of position, he can do better
To be honest we was shit with a full team start of season .
Palace didn’t sack hodson he retired🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭
The most wild thing about West Ham is the fact that currently both our starting centre backs are injured
I agree with some of your points with Ronaldo, I feel like all juventus had to do, which now Man U need to do now. Is Ralf needs to get it through their players heads is to not rely on Ronaldo
He isn't a problem though. The players over relying on him are the problem.
I’m just going to say ronaldo didn’t ruin Greenwood or Bruno they just haven’t been themselves lately you said ronaldo making cavani bad cavani has been outstanding
2 goals and no assists in 10 appearances playing centre forward, one of which is against a squad currently facing relegation? Thats considered outstanding? Hes also struggling to find game time, competing with ronaldo for the CF position most games, and having an injury for 2 months.
Outstanding 😂😂
Your speaking facts about Ronaldo totally agree 👍
No he isn't. The defense is the problem. You know just as much about football as him.
@@Zack_410 Look at united beating leeds 6-1 whatever it was they was good without Ronaldo and Ronaldo comes changes the attitude
Look at benzema, juve. There's a reason ronaldo was benched at the last match and juve got to top 4 without him (everyone played superb without him). There's a reason no top managers want him because fanbois (waste of earth) always blame manager not their precious goat. Just focus on ronaldo and watch what he does for 90 mins (spoiler: nothing)
They didn't sack Hodgson though... he stepped down himself. He quoted: I just don't like that idea that you have a fanfare and retire from football as if retiring from life. I still have energy and enthusiasm to do other things but I don't have any plans or goals.
As a Chelsea fan I felt the exact same way Theo expressed himself about Rom tbh I hope tuchel plays timo instead of rom against Liverpool
Timo can make the best runs but his finishing can let him down. I suspect he’ll be more involved with link up play instead of being the source of through balls.
Theo I understand your point with Ronaldo but do you think in attack all there thinking about is passing to Ronaldo? Last season Bruno was having shots from anywhere etc… you sont see him do that anymore!
The defense is the problem.
Will you do this for other leagues???
Like the championship
No
Yeah, I totally agree with you Thogden. When lukaku left inter everybody thought it was the end of their glory. By signing cheep and good players, like Dumfries and Dzeko. Dzeko preformes even better than Lukaku, Inter are even through in CL!
How has ragnick got 13 points from 5 games? He's only managed 4 in the prem, 3W and a draw, and the only other game he managed was in CL which was a draw? So that would be 11 points in 5 in all comps? Correct me if wrong?
As a Liverpool fan I feel nothing but satisfaction when I watch these old vids when Liverpool were written off by everyone from the title and now we are just one point off Man City and we have the opportunity to surpass them this Sunday
This is gonna be a great year especially with the World Cup. Can’t wait! 🏆
Although I agree with the ronaldo taking away from players I generally don’t think that applies to Bruno fernanades. If you watch the passes those 2 make u can see their chemistry is incredible. I hope United find form soon because they’ve got the players to win the season (which btw isn’t gonna happen) so they can at least get top four with their potential.
If you agree with that you're really talking out of your ass just like he is.
Jesus alright, what about Cavani last season? Better than this. Fernandes last season, better than this.
Theo being typical Messi fan boy. Imagine saying Ronaldo is the problem while he is the only reason Man Utd is still in UCL.
Yep. His takes have gotten horrible over the past months.
As an Arsenal fan I predicted we would finish 5th. I think 4th is on the table we just need to keep going and focus on ourselves
I think you could finish anywhere from 4th to 8th. Realistically I can’t see united finishing outside the top 4. Then it’s a scrap between you, Tottenham and West Ham
@@jgtt5918 tbf United are struggling to beat Newcastle and Norwich, if it was arsenal, everyone would be talking about relegation. Having good players is one thing, playing well as a team is another.
@@afcshem I agree but they’ve took 12 from 15 and things can only really get better for them under ragnick. The quality of players will always help them get points
@@jgtt5918 not against Newcastle it didn’t 🤷♂️ sure the only way is up from here for them, but no necessarily up into the top 4 imo. I think Tottenham are the current favourites at the minute alongside arsenal. 🤔
@@afcshem maybe so we’ll just have to wait and see. If I’m not wrong spurs will go 4th and united 5 th after their games in hand
Ronaldo is the only player in the history of the sport that can get 17 G+A in 21 matches and is still accused of being “the problem” on the team. That’s why he’s the goat. I mean, Theo basically said it himself. Ronaldo is just too good for everyone. His standards for himself are so high that his teammates can’t keep up. What a player🇵🇹🐐
Ok CRsimp
What a load of bullshitt
its not all about goals and assists m8
@@CubeUP049 your saying that like he actually have been great he have performed for sporting nothing else so far and he is not gonna get better
All he does is sit in the penalty box and tap in goals that were created by his teammates, and take penalties. He doesn't provide anything defensively, he doesn't even create space when attacking. Ronaldo is aging, he's nothing like the deadly winger he used to be a decade ago, and he isnt what man united need.
Chiesa’s g/a is even worse now tho. His partnership with Ronaldo was phenomenal and had 20+ g/a last season.
Really enjoyed the mid-season review, especially the randomised order. It makes it less predictable and you spend longer on each club. Great job! 👍⚽️
Palace didn’t sack Hodgson he retired
You said Josa sa and ramesdale but what about De gea 😭😭🥺
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by your logic messi has made mbappe and neymar worse aswell bcs both dont seem to be racking up as much g/a as last season
Well mbappe is playing really good at the moment and Neymar is injured so I don’t know what you are on about mate
Mbappe is getting better and Neymar rarely plays, what weeds are u on?
He never said anything about Messi, why do you have to bring him into the conversation?
these ronaldo fanbois don't realise how bad ronaldo is. They should just focus on ronaldo and watch what he does (spoiler: nothing)
What you said about ronaldo is bizarre. Your basically saying you wouldn’t want ronaldo In your team. I’m not even a ronaldo fan as I prefer messi. When ronaldo was at Real Madrid that team won champions leagues , la liga, the Spanish cup.Also look at his goal involvement’s for Juventus and this season for man united. Football is a team game you saw that when he was at Juventus and this season at Man United.
You're a Messi fan whereas he's a fanboy. Big difference.
@@Zack_410 you don’t get what I’m saying open your eyes
Theo on the content grind💪
On the CR7 thing my opinion is no one in the Man Utd team is better than Ronaldo and everyone else gets worse simply because they think they don't have to try as hard as they had to before!! Ppl will blame their bad form on "Everything has to go to CR7" but the reality is Real Madrid's success was because their players didn't care if the focus was Ronaldo and they kept working as hard as they can!
I've seen the "Ronaldo is a bad team player because he doesn't press" BS when almost no one in that team presses, and even when you press you need to do it as a team which Man Utd don't!! If you know about football you know it's waste of energy pressing by yourself unless there's a mistake from the opponent!
Personally I think the Man Utd players do want to work hard and it's about fixing tactics and teamwork and I also think CR7 criticism is based on a myth that Man U were world class before when they couldn't even win UEL last season
Exactly
Instead of focusing in the attack for Manchester United, the problem to solve is their tragic defence... Maguire is very inconsistent, Lindelof and Bailly are decent and Varane is world class but be needs to improve his form... They need a defensive midfielder as well, bc you cannot go anywhere with Mcfred. Instead of blaming Ronaldo for getting all the attention up front (which is not wrong but also not entirely right) try and focus on more important things that Ralf has to solve than him. Its not about getting all the attention, its about playing well and being in form, no world class player gets outshined by any teammate of his.
Imo Fred has potential he just needs to find his consistent form where as mcshittinay needs to go
Mc Fred are defo not champions league quality , totally agree. McTominay has one good game in every eight, Fred simply is not good enough . Matic is too laboured and slow in his passing .
How ever they do in the back, Ronaldo will weaken whatever club he goes to and deserve to be mention as a factor to the problems.
@@Fonetiker by scoring 40 goals a season at least? Are you mad?
@@Fonetiker totally agree. His appearance at the club has completely upset the balance of the team anyone who can’t see that is not very clever.
You're point with Ronaldo making Man U worse, I feel the same with the Swedish national team and Zlatan Ibrahimovic. I won't deny that he is an incredible footballer and a Swedish sports icon, but the national team is better of without him
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Although I think Ronaldo’s the best player ever and I am a man united fan I believe that Ronaldo has made United worse because this time last season we were first I think. Also Bruno and Greenwood and Rashford were all doing brilliant but now Ronaldo is in he’s the only player who’s really performing. But since Rangick has been manager Ronnie has scored 2 goals in like 5 or 6 games so yeah I think the 2nd half of the season will be better. Happy new year.
The defense is the issue. Not Ronaldo.
Personally I feel like when David raya comes back in goal for Brentford they could honestly push for top 10 when he returns because in his 9 games this season before injury he had 3 clean sheets compared to Fernandez 1 clean sheet in 10 games. So he could be the difference of Brentford not losing crucial points
Also before the injury I was considering him as one of the most underrated players this season
Stop causing Drama with Lukaku the Media twisted his words and if you don’t bekeive me watch Tuchel Interview he said Lukaku feels the opposite and loves chelsea and Tuchel
Please do a Championship version :)
I had PL _ 1.Manchester City 2.Chelsea 3.Liverpool 4.Manchester United
Can go through
Ronaldo in most Man U games gets barely any of the ball and is there as a poacher idk what u lot r on about
You lot love ronaldo over your own club, and as a liverpool fan i absolutely love it. You are sacrifising the other qualities if your side for a sui celebration😂😂
U support your club or Ronaldo?
Guys remember that It’s not Ronaldo who is carrying United it’s McFred
I'd like a video about the italian serie A from you. You're absolutely great!
I'm a Liverpool fan and i have to say Liverpool are disgraceful these days should be second and going toe to toe with city disgraceful for our standards how we have fallen 😐😕😡
Blame F$G, they invest all their money into the shitty Red Sox while they leave Klopp with nothing at Liverpool
Ronaldo literally kept United in the champions league this season. Did the same for Juve last season when he kept them in the top 4.
Innit thogden is chatting pure bollocks
@@harrywalker5733 you lot really don`t understand how it works and why he makes his teams worse
@@emil_horn663 So CR7 is the reason the defence is shit, yeah??
@@emil_horn663 😑
@@RafaelSantos-di5yw It`s a team game and every player on the pitch is defending together as a team.
Mason Greenwood's career wasn't ruined by Ronaldo, he ruined himself. Absolute horror how someone could do that.
Love a little bit of thogden before a cheeky beer
I support Newcastle and the time I’m saying this they just got out of the relegation zone
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Looks like thogdad got more of his prediction correct compared to thogden
As a Ronaldo fan, I agree with Thogden
Thanks for all the content
Happy new year
Keep it up
Although I love Ronaldo , I agree with thogden as in juventus they were on a monstrous win streak in serie a before Ronaldo came . I’m not hating on Ronaldo he is the best footballer in the world along side messi but he should have gone to a club that is struggling
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Ronaldo gets hate after having loads of contributions about making utd worse and yet almost nobody talks about Messi strolling about on the pitch every game for psg.
It’s not hate it’s a fact because they came 2nd last season now look there players have gone to waste
@@Ay44n192 and u think that's not to do with the manager or terrible performances from our midfield and defence? Ronaldo is 36 and now his role is as a world class striker. When he gets chances he will decide games, as you have seen on a number of occasions this season.
respect for the lukaku’s situation, Tuchel is class as always
As a united fan, i will agree with you
Is it only me or do u genuinely get happy when Thogden posts?
Only you
It’s not Ronaldo’s fault that he has lazy teammates that aren’t willing to put in the work to improve their game. You talked about Ronaldo “making Greenwood worse”. Hell, Greenwood should be the most grateful player on the team. He literally has one of the greatest players in the history of the sport as a teammate and instead of learning from him and improving, he’s just becoming lazy. Ronaldo is the last person you should be blaming for United’s shit season.
Facts! He "makes" everyone else worse because they think they don't have to work as hard as they did before when their mentality should be to work just as hard because CR7 does make your team better!! I think Man Utd players do want to work hard but they haven't because of disappointing results so clearly tactics & teamwork needs to be focused in training
I see ur point about Ronaldo, but think about the number of times he's bailed United out that no one else on the team would be able to do
I think that's his point... That they wouldn't be in the position of almost losing in the first place if they didn't have Ronaldo. Not saying that i agree, but im pretty sure that's what he meant.
@@plm6523 ya but it doesn't rly make sense. It's not like cr7 is bringing down the defence's standard, maguire has always been bad and stuff.
No I think he knows what he brings, I mean its Ronaldo ffs, but everything is around him, compared to how lots of players were contributing last season, like Bruno, Greenwood, Cavani etc. And about Bruno - he's shit for Portugal time and time again because of Ronaldo - he takes all of the resposibility away from him and he doesn't like that. He needs to be the focal point of the team and others can feed off him
I get what he's saying but the biggest problem is the midfield and the defence. Its not like united are struggling at the attack, and its not like Ronaldo is not scoring the chances hes getting. U can just watch any of the past 5 united matches then u will understand the problems.
@@plm6523 they definitely would
Funny how people hate Birney for being so defensive but like wolves even tho they are literally 5 at the back park the bus counter attack 😂
Happy new year guys, keep up the great work
Yep
Thogden the problem of man u is defence stop targeting Ronaldo you Messi fanboy
Ronaldo makes teams worse 😂 ~theo
Ronaldo makes teams worse -🤡
And then he thinks people that disagree are fanboys lol
He's speaking facts tho. Ronaldo can score the odd tap ins and pens against your Burnleys but ultimately man utd have declined massively from last season. Their system has changed to 'pass to Ronaldo the whingebag'
@@shuaybmiah7130 Theo has a point and so do u. But. The number of times he's bailed us out is mad, we'd be much worse off without him
@@zachoo7765 fax
@@idontkjaer9747 also true
You think you will succeed by targeting Ronaldo
U wouldn’t of got Liverpool right if it wasn’t for us being a game down due to covid but loving the content lad keep it up 👏🏽
not every game in hand is a guarunteed win. we have the best starting 11 itl but that doesn't mean we're guarunteed the win
@@alexjorga6412 Yes man city do have the best you’re correct
@@skiii1787 imo, liverpool have the best starting 11 but city have the best depth.
Ronaldo is ronaldo he lives of scraps get the midfield right before u question the attack
I refuse to believe Ronaldo has been negative. He is the reason united are in the champions league
True they are just looking for a scapegoat
He hasn't been negative at all.
Top boys but always get it slightly wrong with leeds. Sean dyche wouldn’t have ever got 9th place with our team last season and bielsa has tactically outclassed him since leeds got promoted (3 wins, 1 draw). Not enough attention made towards our injuries which have killed our season so far, Phillips, rodrigo, bamford, llorente, cooper, koch, firpo, Shackleton, Ayling, strujik, forshaw, etc all key players for us and have missed large amounts of the season. Any team would be a shadow of themselves with so many injury issues. With reference to city, this proves my point, last season our full team vs city - 2-1 win and 1-1 draw, this season less than half our team - 7-0
May I just correct the Leeds United situation, first of all, its not just a "few" inuries, its loads, and im talking the longest list in the prem, and yes, the do have good squad depth just not the same quality as the first team. Now robberies also come into play, games like Spurs, Newcastle, West Ham, etc. theyve all robbed Leeds a few points, so my predicition is that when Leeds sign 2 to 3 players in January and players start to get fit theyll fight for top 10 again, no second season syndrome bullshit, you need to cut them some slack, and it would also help if VAR sort theyre shit out as well, no more Dean Smith and Anthony Taylor being refs for Leeds games.
Oh BTW, Meslier > Ramsdale any day of the week. Meslier top 3 best keepers in the league easily
extreme bias
@@user-xe1yb1fg6h how? Its facts not bias
BTW the reason they signed ronaldo is because they didn’t want city to have him
mate how about talking about psg they have gone from best to their worst with just the addition of one player but their its the managers fault whereas with manchester united its ronaldo's fault
Ikr Messi hasn't helped them play better at all!! It hasn't been his fault but he hasn't helped either
He’s just a Messi fanboy
Its about the PL not CL m8 and its a fact that CR7 wants to score every chance even tho somebody else might have a better chance and PSG signed Messi, Ramos, Winaldum, Nuno Mendes, Donnarumma and Hakimi United signed Sancho and Cr7
@@T.H1731 PSG were in UCL semis, Man U couldn't even get out in the same group
How is this PSG their worst? They couldn't even win the Ligue last season.
4:28 pretty sure Hodgson retired and he wasn’t sacked
Thogden bro when united don’t have Ronaldo in their side they’ve lost I understand what u mean cause the pressure and attention Ronaldo makes but that isn’t Ronaldo’s fault he’s the goat 🐐☺️
But to survive, you have to have someone like Ronaldo to score the goal and someone that is clinical in front of goal
Great content thogden keep it up
Thogden speaking fax about the saints UTS🔴⚪️
Gonna be a banger 💥
Martinez, Konsa, Mcginn and watkins are the Reason of our sucess
I'm a big Ronaldo fan, but you were spot on. He does make other attackers worse, look at my man Benzema since Ronaldo left.
Its not his problem they overly rely on him and can't handle the pressure of playing with him. Our defense is the issue.
@@Zack_410 True, I'm not saying it's his fault that other players fail under the pressure of playing with him. It's just sad to see a team like United struggle. With Ronaldo on the pitch players like Greenwood and Rashford can't play how they used to do, same goes for Bruno. They have a lot of worldclass players but it doesn't really work out. But I'm sure United will be back on top one day
If you say ronaldo drags united down im sorry but thats delusional
I don't think Ronaldo ruined man Utd it's just that when he goes to a team the spotlights on him and he is the main man of the team where ever he goes that's the problem
He destroys the team playing style and makes other world class players average. Look at benzema, juve. There's a reason goal hanger was benched in the last juve match otherwise they wouldn't be in top 4. No managers wanted him except ole 😂. He gives a lot of burden to managers too because fanbois just blame managers for Ronaldo's playstyle (spoiler: his playstyle is just sit in front of goal and he is guaranteed a goal)
If ronaldo makes the team worst, than wtf is messi doing with psg
I'd personally say Maguire is to blame for united, his price for his defending is shocking
Maguire is the biggest the biggest problem. Ronaldo has saved us so many times.
You should really come to Sweden and watch a Malmö ff game in 2022!
Best Malmö games:
Malmö - AIK
Malmö - Djurgården
Malmö - Hammarby
Malmö - Helsingborg (Derby)
Facts the hate for ronaldo is real it ain't his fault it's ole and Maguire been shocking
Fanbois never blame Ronaldo 😂. They always blame managers that's why no managers wanted him. Ole didn't tell ronaldo to play bad and just look for penalty, rebounds, tap ins. Ole's tactics were right but ronaldo was not qualified to do it , he is horrible at pressing and teamwork. When ronaldo attemps a press, midfielders try to support him, causing the defenders to change their positions too to support the pressing but since ronaldo almost always fails at pressing the tactics never work and defense gets vulnerable.
Do the Championship predictions next!!! Please
WE NEED MORE THOGDEN F1 TAKES!!!!!!!
I'm a united fan and I agree with them
Cool. You and him are dumb for thinking that then.
sign ronaldo: score goals = mistake
sign messi: doesn’t score = good signings
12:43 can I point out Mason Mount was the only one actually smiling 😂
Did I ask
Facts regarding Ronaldo... if I was in a spot where I needed a 90+ goal to get a win... I would want him. Most other times I would take someone else who is considered one of the best in the world (lets say Messi) over him without a seconds thought.
It isn't facts at all. If anything Messi has made PSG worse. Ronaldo amd De Gea have saved us this season. Our defense is the problem.
real united fans know that Ronaldo was a bad transfer
Keep doing these videos in a random order
just enjoying waiting till my team come up
I would say drop Ronaldo for game and see how United do
I agree