Ready to Test Your Get-Home Plan? See What Happens When We Do!!
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Trying to figure out a get-home plan in case of a SHTF event? Well, you're in the right place! In this video, Jason tests the effectiveness of a pre-planned get-home strategy. See what happens when he uses his plan to get home in case of an emergency.
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Best example of training I’ve seen in a long time. It’s rather refreshing to see someone not pushing overpriced gear.
I would also add a set of camouflage clothes for you to change into, and use whatever clothes you have on to sleep in
I have a get-home bag in my car. I live nearly 30 miles from work, I would have to traverse the inner city, then the suburbs, then finally trees and farmland to my house. I have maps of the area, some supplies but not sure I could do a real dry run where I abandon my car and walk. Not sure how realistic it would be, currently no chaos going on. I have a somewhat disabled wife at home, alone, so getting home is absolutely imperative. One of the things I love about alcohol stoves is they’re so quiet!
Hmmm, could you fit a mountain bike into your vehicle/SUV? That would be a game changer
@@JohnB-dr8skdepends if you can get to your car. If you leave the bike and the bag in your car in a car park you may lose both!
@@johncrouch8988 I would stash a small, folding luggage cart plus a small backup bag at your work if possible if theft is that much of a problem there. I would also add a Club steering wheel lock to your vehicle to deter lower level thieves.
I would suggest a larger tarp/cover/shelter. Whatever you want to call it. Mainly because of blowing rain or snow or ice. Not much protection from sideways rain. Can't get warm without being dry. Sil nylon is Uber light. And a person can use the poncho over their back and sides leaving the front open for ventilation and to keep you cooler as well as dry. Imho staying dry is very important because of chaffing. Even a small folding umbrella would be helpful to keep a person mostly dry. It can be discarded if it breaks. A wider brimmed hat would provide shade in hot weather and better rain protection as well. Just my 2 cents worth lol which is all it's probably worth
New to this channel and I like it. Being a "survivalist" or "prepper" is fun until it's time to do the hard physical work. I like how you show the realism with that. When I was in the Military I always told people "all the gear looks cool and we look tough, but it's super uncomfortable and we're super tired lol".
Welcome aboard!! Thanks so much for watching!
Last September I went elk hunting in Colorado. It was a self guided bow hunt and we back packed into the back country. Had one day it rained which tested my gear. I wore a poncho that went over me and my pack. It worked great. Wasn’t hot like in the past when I used a gore tex jacket. Just a thought. Loved the video!
I am going to re-assess the items in my get home bags. Things I'll likely add are spare clothes, poncho/tent stakes, inflatable bed and a little more cordage. Great video!
I like the Scenario jason. i think we all need to do a press check on our gear more often
Here's a crazy idea; when you're out rucking and the rain starts coming down hard, instead of continuing to hike and getting your pack soaked and your clothes drenched, simply cover yourself and your ruck with your poncho that you had in your pack!
Great video. My Buddies and I Dedicate the last weekend of every month to do this. 20 miles out, Rain,sleet,Snow or blistering heat and we still go. Sometimes absolutely miserable but always fun. Thanks for sharing
Another thing that you just touched on that I think about it I agree with is that it's a good idea to carry a bigger tarp or an extra canteen or things like a fuel light wake up sore Maybe a few extra space blankets because you might end up with somebody or finding somebody and you'd be able to help them and you can make yourself more comfortable. I would partake in WWII reenactments and we did with soldiers had done which is to combine our tents and each one of my friends carried to shelter halves so we can have a little extra space
This vid is entertaining in it's simplicity but also very informative in the small things we forget about when we leave our get-home-bag alone for too long. Thanks, Jason. Keep it up!
Much respect for making a video to actually showing testing/using your gear!
One item that I think was overlooked was how much emphasis should be placed on footwear. You did great in demonstrating taking care of your feet by keeping them dry. Mentioning merino wool was excellent. Getting a good broken in pair of get-home shoes is probably the most important consideration especially if the distance to home is many miles. “A good pair of tennis shoes “ probably won’t cut it and even with the care you displayed in this video will end up with painful blisters from hot spots.
Quality footwear is very very important. Solid point!
Something I’ve picked up having spent a limited amount of time training in damp/swampy environments is keeping a small bottle of hand sanitizer in my pack. I put a small layer on my feet (when they get wet) before I bed down and they dry out much quicker than simply air drying them. I hope this helps.
Great video man. The only time I have seen someone with one of these bags actually use it
one thought I had was maybe pack up the poncho last but thats nothing
reminds me I need to get back out and do some hiking lol
I think no matter how stealthy you're trying to be, you gotta prepare for interactions with strangers in advance. Especially if you carry some supplies with you. Stash them overnight at the location you are bivouacking at, hide them away for the night? Pull them up on a tree?
Somewhere other than close by or on you, very good point.
One can read books, and buy all the gear but until you need to use the items or test the knowledge it's all hypothetical. Being able to see how some things are done due to not being able o do them oneself is very advantageous. I live in a city, and to do the type of things you do here would involve so many logistics it is hard to do more than maybe twice a year so these videos are fantastic to see the things I cannot do or just never had the occasion to do, Please keep up the good work, and I hope that you or anyone else do not have to use these tips and tricks in anger, so to speak.
The last place you want to be when things go south is in a city. The first 24 hours will be chaos. More people raising hell than anything. You need to be focused on one thing early on. Getting out.
You may live in a city, but you can still prepare physically. Setup your rucksack and carry it with you. Get use to carrying it heavily loaded. A piece of advice about your pack. It might be the best thing since slice bread ... until you spent 15 minutes on your back fully loaded. Then you start to realize that the pack as short comings. No waist strap or center chest strap. Too small or too big. Awkward adjustments. Etc. And what works for you might not work for somebody else because everybody's body is a little bit different. But every pack needs three tools. A full tang quality knife, a hatchet, and an entrenching tool. Many people also swear by multi-tools but to each their own.
@@superdave8248 Thanks for the advice. Everything and anything I can learn is helpful.
I know what you mean I’m 5000 miles from home with a desert and ocean in the way. 😢I guess I’ll be staying put and riding the SHTF in place.
I suggest having a small folding trowel instead of a full size entrenching tool. Good for a fire pit, trenching a shelter and burying waste. A very old style broadblade tomahawk is a good variation of a camp axe. They can be used two handed if necessary.
11 minutes from work I a relatively small town, a couple minutes from the angry American… great content! Keep going!
Great video… thanks for the simulated experience. It’s very meaningful to see the actual process!
If you have the money, I'd recommend you get a dedicated ultralight tent. I have a similar "get home bag" style setup for survival challenges that's 10lbs total without food+water (base weight). It's essentially a 22L drybag, this thing is smaller than most schoolbags and I'd fit a full tent + sleep system + cooking and water filtration + bushcraft gear. I'll post an exact packing list if anyone is interested.
We’d love to see your list of items.
@@SurvivalDispatch 1. Big agnes fly creek tent (2lbs) 2. Silky saw (6oz) 3. Tarred bank line (enough to hoist my bodyweight+gear, 6oz) 4. Bic lighters and ferro rod (2oz) 5. Sawyer mini filter + iodine tabs + bag (8oz) 6. Old marmot sleeping bag (1lb 30F rated or 3lbs -15F rated) 7. Sleeping pad (1lb) 8. Knife (6oz) 9. Headlamp (4oz) 10. GPS (2-6oz) 10. MSR pocketrocket stove + titanium cup (8oz) 11. All inside: Matador Freerain22 (10oz). TOTAL: 7.725lbs-10.474lbs.
Disposable items and things like spare clothes typically add less than 4lbs, typically I'm carrying around 12lbs. I'll add a 1.5lb shovel, maybe a 10oz radio, a fishing setup etc, all depends on the trip.
@@banannadb2213 Awesome list. Thank you!
@@banannadb2213 what sleeping pad? like an EVA foam one?
I'll use a tent too but mine isn't ultralight. It's a Eureka Midori 2 person tent. It weighs about 5.5 lbs with everything - tent, fly, poles, stakes, guy lines, case and the footprint. I live in the deep south so I like the mesh inner tent so I can use it by itself when it's hot. I also use a 2 person tent because I want plenty of room for me and my gear. I don't want to leave my pack and shoes outside the tent and on the ground mainly because bugs, especially ants and spiders, can and will get into them if they can. I can put food away from my tent if I think it's necessary, however. My bugout bag and camping gear are basically the same. For an emergency bag I'd change out the tent for a tarp or two. I carry a Pathfinder survival blanket in addition to my tent in my current setup so I would use another Pathfinder survival blanket or something like a DD tarp instead of the tent in an emergency bag.
getting home is getting home as fast as possible IMO. I always tell people to talk to trail hikers. I live in an AT town. I hike often enough, and interview.. interrogate... as many through hikers as I can every year to catch up on the new gear and 'trends'. That said, a lot of the new trends rely on on technology so you have to filter that out.
Don't get any more wet than you need to... put on a cheap ass frogg toggs poncho... water adds weight, SPECIALLY to packs. Weight wrecks you and burns calories. Packs WILL soak through even 'waterproof' packs and rain covers only work for a while. Best to get a dry bag or hikers use trash compactor bags or heavy duty trash bags to keep all the important stuff dry inside the pack or just poncho over the pack and you. That Frogg Toggs poncho weighs and costs nothing. You DO NOT want to be rush hiking and trying to sleep in a wet bag or putting on cold wet top layers in the morning.
Easy solution to help with the tarp profile would be to just toss leaves over it. Get a branch, rake the leaves from your sleep area (avoid ticks) and use those
If you poke around on amazon you can find single person bugnet that ties up under a tarp. I think I paid 30 bucks for the one I have now.
The shelter you built is in a hole lol... hope it stays dry in the rain...
Everyone should do a 3 day 2 night hike with their 'get home bag' You'll figure out really quick what's important and what isn't. Specially in bad weather.
Okay matey, here's is our 2cent worth. Firstly some light weight rain pants & coat will be ideal especially when you have to walk for miles. Distance is not an issue but your mental & physical well being will be tested. If it's not raining, you can still use the rain weather gear to keep you warm at night, just wear it over your dry underclothes. A little trick we learned from grandma. Don't guess, find out how much weght you're carrying before any kind of trekking. Simple shelter could be better, there are light weight tarp that is on the market that is lighter than your military poncho, we use shower curtain, just make sure they're not reflective (stealth camping). We use elastic/bungy cord for the shelter retainer which can also double as torniquet etc. Location of your shelter is crucial. If it rains all night then water will flow downhill & not to mention that cold air flows downhill as well. You did say you waterproof your backpack, you might as well do the same with your cap/hat & shoes. Also some safety eye wear & masks wouldn't go a stray. There's no harm in carrying a telescopic lady umbrella.!! Some eucalyptus oil is a great insect repellant. It's better if you can get it in a spray can. Spray some on yourself, clothes, feet & an outline of your body where you lay on the insulation mat. Last but never the least is water. Good clean water. We carry some lozenges (menthol + eucalyptus) it's good for in the morning while you pack up. Another tip we learned from grandma. Grandma would have given you 10 pages of suggestion but we summarized it for you. We also mean no disrespect as you are a professional. We watched your show & other that's affiliated to your channel. Anyway grandma reckon you're cute..! We watch your show as a family & we seen your lovely family. We do remember that walk you had with your grandma. It was a wonderful segment & thank you. So matey, that's our 2cent worth. Stray safe. Keep it true & god bless you & your family. Warm greetings from Australia. So when are you & the other boys going to get together & have a chat on the tube?
I've all but quit vacations I'd hate to be 500 miles away from home and the shtf.
Man, this is one of my worst nightmares as I work over 600 miles from home!
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Why so far. Just get an AI to do it.
Thats what everyone else is doing
I thought my 85 mile walk was far
Start a new life where you are when the event happens.
This may be the first video I’ve seen of yours, but I absolutely loved it! great idea, we should all be testing our kits!
Thanks so much for watching!!
Bridges/overpasses are a security hazard, especially if they're compromised. Might have to back track or use alternative routes; having extra gear might be a good thing. I try to have year round stuff in my bag, especially living up in MN; the winters can be unforgiving.
Hilarious comment on the constant packing and unpacking. I feel your pain man....lol. All good and helps keep those drills efficient if under contact. Cheers from a still very cold Alberta!
Lots of good points. Simple hiking vids also lend good info. We do 5 day treks with 25lb packs. Freeze dried food is light and the stoves available are super light. You should also have some sort of water purification system. After 48 hrs without water, the body will begin to shut down. DON'T drink straight rain water especially in the event of an EMP, because if that EMP came from a nuclear detonation, the rain water will be contaminated with radioactivity. Boil non-detonation water for 2 minutes. If it's a nuclear detonation, it probably won't matter anyway.
i have heard that emp bombs are set off way up almost to space not at ground level. if that is the case what is the time frame for radioactivity to hit our water or can it even get down to earth?
@@jeffpaul8260 Depending on weather patterns, a couple days. You'd have time to secure clean water for storage from city water. City water may last a few weeks because it's already been processed. A run on bottled water would be frantic and ugly.
unless its solar emp
which is not an if question but a when question
Love your vids. This has to be one of your best vids. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
great video!!! test it before you need it!!!! several years ago several like minded people got together on friday after work, picked up our BOBs & walked in to a local farm (with permission) and lived out of our bags for the weekend!! only what you could pack in your pack & no going back to the trucks!!! it was 100 degrees plus & we had to walk & accomplish tasks till sunday evening!!! it showed all of us what we had to much of or not enough of!! it was a great learning experience, we had 1 guy get overheated & got him cooled down & hydrated!! everyone should do this every year for 1 weekend.....its worth it to prove to yourself that you can do it!!!
Love this!!!
Obviously suspending the poncho from the middle works and that’s what we did in the Army as well. However I like having a couple of the tarp buddy’s fasteners. You can use one for the center but if you’re needing more room you can use a couple of them and a stick with trimmed ends to create structure to your tarp or poncho. They are made to accept tent poles but a stick with trimmed ends works as well. A couple of them are pretty light and just gives some more versatility. Just another option to think about. Love the vids as always, thanks!
What are tarp buddies? Like the things from niteize? The things that bite down and have a hole in the back?
They are different from niteize they are one piece with a coin shaped base and a cylinder out one side with a hole through it. You should be able to Google tarp buddy and find it. Thanks!
Tarp buddies are round and have a hole on the middle. Found them on RUclips but think I ordered them maybe from Survival Resources or similar site.
Thank you for all you do man these videos are awesome and you really can’t critique anything because every situation is different. Everybody has it in their head what they would do or what could happen but until it does happen the only thing you could do is let your training kick in be vigilant make good decisions and get home for your next plan of survival.
Great content. I like this type of real scenario testing.
Having the proper gear is one thing, but testing it in every weather condition is another. You never know what the weather will be like when TSHTF
I’d love to see a similar video incorporating more people in a group like setting. I’ve seen one of just a husband and wife team traveling post EMP but a slightly larger group would add interesting dynamics that I think a mix of this video and the other video (I believe on this channel but I could be mistaken, if I am, I’m sorry) could start to expand upon and generate discussion of incorporating family into the equation. Great video. Thank you!
Noted!
Being able to get warm dry and rested will get you a long way
Great video, thanks for the run-through (I would say dry run, but...rain canceled that one)😊 As always Jason your humor makes for a fun experience👌 ❤️it
Yes answer to yer question! Actively training, once per week simulating a get home 2.5 hour fast paced hike in an urban metro area of a huge capital city in S.America as well as leading a new rucking club here.
Outstanding video brother. You do a great job w practice what you preach. All respect.
I appreciate that
I don't think you did anything wrong!!!!!I think you gave us many diff things to think about!!!! Thank you!!!!God bless you
THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS VALUABLE INFORMATION!
-Stephen, Lancaster (Amish Country) Pennsylvania.
While having the comfort of a larger tarp or larger rest area is awesome.... which takes up a much larger foot print.....its amazing what can be done with minimal gear or much smaller lighter gear... thanks for showing us that you REALLY don't need 50 pounds of gear to survive a night or 3 in the woods..... just the will to survive common sense and some good quality practical gear is all you need!!!!!!
As long as you are not injured,have water and avoid hypothermia you can get by with very little in your get home bag.
Thanks man, you've made me reconsider what's in my get home bag. Need to reconfigure it some. Thanks brother, God bless.
Maybe also practice a scenario where you'd have to pack up in an ultra hurry? Good vid👍
Kudos for the information! Hope I never have to get in that situation. Question what you think about deep woods off. To detour bugs. And head net. Small snack( with protein)
Shows that you not only need to test your gear, you need to periodically, test yourself!
I do appreciate the guys who make these videos, because it helps to keep me fresh on the basic principles. That said, I would not be doing push-ups, and I probably wouldn’t be running unless I had solid intel that bombs weren’t about to drop.
If you have a long commute to work as I do planning your route is key. In my state I've identified a highway corridor that takes me through mostly state parks and wealthy areas where encounters with groups of panicked desperate people is dramatically diminished.
its also an area of entitled people who might have more problems with you walking "in their neighborhood" The rich are used to buying what they need now, you have perhaps two days before they start running out. They are used to getting there way so avoid them.
Paralleling the road by a few feet is a good way to get ambushed. Paralleling a road by a quarter mile will likely be fairly safe
Depending on where you are, paralleling by a quarter mile (400 yards) may put you on another road.
Situation dictates. I’ve paralleled some pretty rough roads overseas in operational situations. And we were probably 5-10 yards out from the road. Remember, ambushes go both ways as well.
Playing DayZ will teach you all about roads and ambushes. People are people, and they work the same there as they do in real life. Noobs travel roads so they don't get lost. Ambushers stay close enough to see the road. Because that's where the money is at. So travel at least far enough from the road that you can see where the bad guys have to be to see it.
I doubt anyone is going to be ambushing immediately after shtf I wouldn’t worry about it day 1 stay strapped and march home
i am not sure that the gangs and marauders would be out that fast though. his area looked remote. my area is remote and mostly dirt roads. i would do fast walking on the roads and move off at sounds. also i do carry for protection now and would have something then as well.
I'm pretty lucky as my get home route is less than 5 miles, and there is a railroad track that I will use for all but 300 yards!
Good job. I'm going to do this practice scenario this spring.
I really appreciated the discussion about shelter size. A lot of the survival gear is designed around either a military poncho or a 5'x7' emergency blanket, but that is only good for one person with limited gear and very limited supplies (thinking wood trying to get or keep dry for "next fire" mentality). I think your comment about keeping a 10'x10' in the truck for a group situation makes sense, as you would have the poncho for personal use and the 10'x10' for one or more people in a group. From your discussion it seemed really a close call whether you should carry a poncho PLUS a tarp/emergency blanket as something could be set up as a shelter and the poncho for you or someone in the group working in the rain, if necessary.
As far as mylar space blankets, I'd probably keep at least in the truck one for each person at maximum capacity plus maybe one in the ruck. They are very light and quite handy in a number of situations. They are much maligned, but used properly can make an unexpected overnight much better than otherwise. They can be used for an emergency shelter, for keeping in body heat wrapped around a person, for reflecting warmth from a fire into a shelter area, among other uses.
In a grid down situation you’ll need to avoid fires or anything else that attracts attention from others.
Having a get home bag or bug out bag is great, but if you never take it out like this and put it to the test, finding out what shortcomings there may be in your system during a real emergency will be uncomfortable at best, and deadly at worst. Thanks for sharing1
A 21 mile backpack trip will set you straight. Learned what I needed and didn’t. Was an awesome trip up to 13000 ft. / Wheeler Peak and Gold Hill/Goose Lake NM
GREAT video man!!! Was also glad to see you were not wearing sandals to get home. LOL (sorry I had to). Would love to see a longer version that takes a couple of days.
Thanks Jason !
Really good information 👌 I wish I could find equipment that is made for tall people like me at 6'7" it's difficult!!
Obrigado por compartilhar!
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You need a couple more pairs of socks. Also wouldn't hurt to have a dive bag/dry bag either inside your pack rolled up or placed inside the pack and your items secured in it. You lose some volume to your pack but in my experience it's worth it when you are in a severe environment/weather where crossing water or hours in heavy rain is a possibility. You don't want anything slowing you down.
Thanks for the nice review! I go much lighter with gear designed for thru-hiking (think Appalachian Trail and PCT), with a base weight of around 10 to 12 lbs (not including food, stove fuel, & water). I want to be really low drag, less identifiable as someone with gear (much smaller pack signature), fast and mobile. However, I think you've chosen, or will modify to, what works best for you. Thank you, again, for your perspective!
Yes you can learn a lot from those ultralight backpacking guys.
Great video...and if I could think of one thing possibly wrong, but worked, was having your campsite built in a small valley of the tree ball where if it rained much more you might get flooded out.
I know it would add weight... but I wonder if you could sew on little paracord attachment points to the under side of your poncho and have a net or line you could string through it where you could potentially hang your wet clothes to?? Like something that's low profile right next to the under side of the poncho?? Even along one or two sides that allows you to hang up a shirt or socks or a pair of pants or something.....
I loved the video.. .thanks for that. However, I would never catch water from my poncho or tent since it is highly treated with water-repellent spray. But of course in an SHTF situation, you drink what you get.
one of main reasons why i carry 10by10 tarp even if going solo is to have enough space. if stealth isnt necessary, 3 sided, fully enclosed pyramid tent is imho best option.for rest; more or less spot on. i carry kelly kettle instead of alcohol stove ( i know its bigger and bulkier, but its sooo damn effective) and 2 , 1.5L nalgene bottles instead of camelbak.
Done this a couple of times (involuntarily), had less stuff as I was on a bike ( broken) Besides general stuff like water container, bike and general multitool, energy bars, first aid kit (with chlorine pills), extra and waterproof clothing I had two cheap tarps the first time, a tarp and poncho the second plus a small brew kit. The big difference is I only stopped when I absolutely had to, might sleep from say 2 to 4am, coffee, hit the road again. If the weather was fine I just rolled up in tarp/poncho but made shelter if it was raining, maybe more of a realistic scenario because you'd be frantic to get back to your family. Keeping my feet in good shape was the most difficult part.
Excellent! I especially liked you showing changing into the base layer. However the one thing I rarely, if ever, hear is someone talk about time, speed and distance. (1) if a person travels for one hour at 60 MPH, how many days will it take them to walk home and do you truly believe you can survive for that long with a 20 lb pack? (2) If you have to walk for three days and all you have is one quart of water what do you think you’ll be spending more time doing; walking home or searching for water?
60 mph?
60 MPH for one hour is 60 miles. There are numerous factors to include how fit you are. The average person walks 13 minutes per mile, and at a brisk pace, it can be done in about 11 minutes per mile. A lot of it also has to do with your footwear. I don't forsee a woman in high heels capable of doing that treck, but a good pair of boots that are broken in can be done in two to three days. Another factor is your state of mind. The first step in succeeding is clearing your mind of doubt. If you don't have the mentality of I can and will do it, it will be very difficult to accomplish your goal.
@@mikek001 - one hour at 60 miles per hour means you need to walk 60 miles. How many days will that take? Now change it to three hours averaging 70 mph and you have your wife and two small children with you. That’s 210 miles. Now what? You think that 20 pound pack is going to save you? My longest drive is four hours averaging 70 miles per hour. (Edit - typo, sorry. 60 MPH) My pack weighs 55 pounds wet and my wife’s pack weighs 30 pounds wet. I won’t have to hunt or scrounge for food and can walk from water to water. If all you’ve got to go is a days walk, all you need is dress appropriately, water and self protection.
IMHO, the average person only walks about 3-4 miles per hour, and in the area he's in with the rain and wet ground/leaves, you should only figure about three miles per hour. So a 60 mile hike, would require about 20 hours of hiking, two fairly long days since hiking at night is too hazardous and too easy to get turned around. Yes, you could follow a compass heading but what if your compass gets lost? I try to carry at least 2000 calories per day with at least an extra full days worth because you may be delayed by obstacles or your destination may turn out to be untenable when you get there! I carry at least one gallon of water (along with a water filter and extra collapsable 1 1/2 gallon water jug)) because where I live it is semi-arid (just one step from a desert) and sometimes water sources can be fairly rare! I prefer a small tent because the weather can change pretty quickly and a tarp-style shelter doesn't provide much help in poor weather!
Water depends on where you live, In western Oregon you will spend a lot less time looking for water and more trying to find a way across rivers. (depending on how far you have to go) In AZ water can be a problem. which is why you have good maps and scout the routes.
Lord, nasty conditions. Take a lot to get out and do it when you yo don't have to. Thanks
I did a 30 day road trip last year trying to rough it as much as I could. I thought I would be fancy like those famous youtubers that like to do pour over coffee while overlanding...I quickly figured out that I'll never do pour over coffee again....give me quick instant packs LOL. I need to re-evaluate my bug out bag as I have no extra dry clothes in it currently. Good stuff!
Good on you for testing yourself and your gear. That’s the best way to see what works or doesn’t.
Just my two cents. Boots socks over athletic socks. Swap them out each day. And wash your feet prior to putting on the "clean" socks. Out in the bush the best you can probably hope to do is soak them, ring them out, and let them dry over the next day. But boot socks are thicker. Yes, they will make you sweat more, but they will take more abuse. I wouldn't give athletic socks even a week of hard use before they start to get holes.
A tube tent is a good option; light, compact, quick setup, and integral ground sheet.
Seems like a brisk walk would be better on the knees than a slow jog, especially with a pack on.
I'm 13 miles from the town that I regularly have to drive to on a daily basis. It's 90% open farm country between my place and there. If I gotta walk there's gonna be no hiding lol.
I have get home pack in my car. In most cases I'm only few miles from my house, but I could go for a couple of days.
I also have a 3 day pack , with shelter, water and food. And then I have my GI joe purse with everything in it, I'm not coming home !! thanks
Great video and example of getting out and doing things.
On this channel we do the Titan 10 mile Challenge where we go on 10 mile rucks with the kits to make sure we can carry it and all the items are useful
Man you made some great points, but I would have love to seen you use one of those field stones as a base for your cook system. Especially with an alcohol stove, if that thing tipped, it could create a serious situation for your gear. Just looked super sketch with the tall pot and gave me the heebeegeebees.
Wet clothes, muddy gear, I remember those times. SCOUTS OUT 👍
Gary Owen!
I love the Darn Tough socks. I have a few pairs myself.
Started hiking again a few weeks ago (tarmac).
This was a useful video.
Great to hear!
I would say always carry the larger tarp instead of poncho. It also allows you more protection from the elements and more space to dry out your gear. I also suggest military gortex bivy as opposed to those disposable light weight ones. I'd also suggest using your little stove not just for cooking but also a mini heat source
frog toggs poncho weight SO little and is cheap AF. Carry both lol.
No, for survival, a poncho is much better. Trying wearing a large tarp when you walk around in the rain. It has no hole for your head, so you will have to jury rig and it will not work well at sealing out the elements. A GI poncho is the best option for small bug out pack. Backpacking? Different story. But you have only so much room in a bugout pack.
I'm glad you are doing this exercise It's important to experience the crisis before hand I always learn something I didn't last time and I change it up like if it gets dark thair are unfriendly forces out and you have to stop and stay the night 🌃, also I would sometimes have to hunt and dress it and cook it, that's a whole new level of skills.usualy it was squirrels that was most plentiful.
I'm a college kid in my early 20s, my school is over 500 miles away from home so I ain't entirely sure what I'm gonna do if something happens while I'm at school. Just hope if something like this happens I'm home during a break. Got a small survival cache in my car but that's it, definitely ain't enough for a 1 to 2 week trek back home, over a mountain range
Ww should all be practicing like this. Take your pack and live out of it for 2 or 3 days. Now that is a wake up call and your weaknesses will reveal themselves. Awesome job buddy. God Bless
The one thing missing in your backpack that I consider essential is the lowly entrenching tool/small collapsible shovel... need to to funnel off water from where you shelter... need it to build a simple latrine or bury poo and to have a seat to do such ..if it is cool to dig in or move dirt around your tarp... if incline to dig roots to eat or use it to cut/scrap things ..endless reasons... a flashlight/headlamp even though not essential of some sort would be the other thing as a nice to have.
I love the special forces shovels! Super handy. I always keep a flashlight in my pocket and spare batteries in my pack.
Great tips! Thanks for putting it out.
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I'd second guess setting up your shelter in that ditch. Seems like it would become a large puddle in any substantial rain. It's great for camouflage, but without some sort of raised bed, everything you brought would get drenched in a downpour because water always seeks the low ground.
Gear-wise, though, I think you did very well. So many people don't bring a simple inflatable sleeping mat, which is light weight and quite insulating. I'd recommend a larger ground cover than that trash bag. It can do in a pinch, but if you've got the space, a tarp, footprint, or even a sizable piece of tyvek will help much more in wet conditions. Make sure you don't store your down jacket compressed with your clothing long term. Keeping down compressed limits its ability to loft and provide the best insulation. I'm still working out how to store my down items for my get home bag. The best I've come up with is uncompressed in a trash bag next to my GHB, then I can use the trash bag as a waterproof compression sack to quickly add them to the GHB when needed. If anyone has a better idea, I'd love to hear it! And I always treat my down items with a Nikwax DWR wash-in treatment. It makes both the down and the shell a little more water-resistant, which is immensely helpful in a light sprinkle or damp, humid conditions. Speaking of which, Nikwax makes spray on waterproofing designed for gear that might work better than Scotchguard, which isn't really meant for that.
Thank you, your a great leader.
I appreciate that!
Thanks Jason... excellent and helpful as usual!
I'm curious about the water that is probably running down that little bank at the back of your shelter. Spent a lot of time in the boonies so I know what it's like to be wet.
Sleeping in that low point… especially if it’s on a slope, is just asking for run off and waking up in a puddle. Least where I’m from, ground only holds so much water
Jason's stuff is always good. Im throwing down a challenge. I keep a few tarp clips in my get home bag. I have hung wet socks from them on the outside of my pack. You could obviously use them to set up shelters. What else does the Survival Dispatch community use them for?
Love the effort, but I have to ask:
1. If we all agree GHB’s should be ready to go in your vehicle stocked with enough light and fast gear + H2O + food (nothing cotton) to cover your needs getting home if you’re caught out locally (extra provisions based on extended travel and seasonal changes), why then during summer’s heat would your bag’s contents not include a compact umbrella?
2. I don’t know if you’re advertising for primitive wilderness survival company or just one of those gear head guys who derives pleasure from dropping needless mounds of cash on your stuff, but I’m curious if you’re aware that Ace Hardware (any hardware store or amazon) has a super absorbent quick dry synthetic chamois big enough for indoor fort building for exactly 1/4 the price of your pws cloth?
3. I seriously love your frugal thinking concerning your ground cloth, but I’m curious if you learned that unless your trash bag is on absolutely level ground and like 30 mils thick then they’re like trying to sleep on a greased up pi$$d off porcupine or not? Just stop by any building site and ask them if you can have an end roll of Tyvek that they’re ultimately going to have to pay $ to throw away; not one puncture in the same piece I’ve used on two thruhikes & three gravel bike-packing rides across the US trips and I’ve slept on rocks, seashells, broken glass, logging roads, concrete, etc. Additionally, with all that land I saw behind your open air hobbit hole, why would you EVER choose a steep very small depression (otherwise known as a surface water collection bowl) as your spot to sleep and dry gear? Maybe, maybe if you literally had armed thugs actively hot on your tail and you were about to pass out from exhaustion should you pick a hole in the ground to sleep in during a pouring rain. Otherwise, you ALWAYS pick the exact opposite tent/tarp site (bumped/elevated), even a level or slightly angled site will have you cussing your head off freezing in the middle of the night getting soaked as you’re cutting a diversion trench ditch around your camp during a thunderstorm.
Not criticizing, just gifting wisdom earned from decades and many thousands of miles of self sustained outdoor adventures in and out of the wild by foot, bike and kayak. Keep up the good work and I applaud you; knowledge and wisdom are only gained by putting yourself out there and making mistakes. Thanks for sharing your journey.
Good points.
Great video. Not so much what you did wrong, just my thoughts. Given your scenario, time is critical. When the lights go out, we probably have about 72 hours before people truly panic. Speed and darkness are your friends. Humans have an inherent fear of the dark, and seek shelter at night. That’s why military forces conduct so many operations at night. If I’m trying to get home, I’m definitely taking advantage of the night, to move quickly and quietly to my objective. If it takes several days to make it home, I’m using the daytime to find a secluded location to rest, recover, then move out again soon after dusk. All this is weather and terrain dependent.
True, but hiking at night is much dangerous and opens you up to injury. All it takes is one misstep on a rock because your headlamp doesn't illuminate enough compared to daylight and now you have a very serious situation. If the path is smooth enough then yeah, night time could work well. But if the path is unfamiliar or rocky, it could be big trouble.
That's my plan also, use the darkness as cover.
I have a huge pack. I only take what I need from the plant it's a 2 hour walk. I'm just taking a water bottle. But If I'm away on a work drive, the longest it would take me to get home is 5 to 9 days I take everything and whatever I think I'll need in-between. I should say it changes for the season as well still have to try my winter pack it's almost the same as my winter camping bag though and it works well. Writing this out makes me remember I have to update my topo maps if nothing else there good for finding water. I also mark some interesting spots on them that I have checked out before hand everything from temporary shelter to anything else I might need
Awesome video...stay motivated ....stay dry ....stay blessed from the u.k
a really good book to read for this scenario is called "one second after" . its on audible if you dont like reading but its supposed to be fiction, supposed to be...
the SOL Escape Bivi is what I use and it really saved my butt. You are gonna love it, if you fit into it.
What did he do wrong? Well… nothing! Jason’s the man that’s why!
I just bought me what looks like the same pack. US Army issue, built rugged, and quite affordable. Am surprised you didn't use your poncho In the rain. It doubles as a tarp. I got a woombie that doubles as a blanket and a liner for the poncho/tarp. Both afford you great camouflage, and though the woombie is not super warm, every little bit helps! Your pants and shoes would have still gotten wet at your ankles, but it would have insulated from driving rain.
My first issue was something he waited to the very end of the video to even bring up. Road or backwoods?
The initial scenario was that an EMP has gone off. So you are basically traveling on the open road just like everybody else unless this event caught you while hiking. You have a maximum of three days. Three days before things get really ugly to cover as much ground as humanly possible. That means you are taking the roads.
Now here is the thing. A "in shape" person can walk about four miles an hour. Odds are, that isn't you. You will be lucky to make 2.5 - 3 miles an hour unless you have access to a bicycle. Which you will probably lose to the first group who corners you on the road. So the first thing is to do the simple math. How far is it to home. Odds are, you are probably less than an hour's drive away. Which unless you spend most of your time on the interstate, means you are probably 40 - 50 miles from home. 40 miles / 2.5 = 16 hours. So a day and a half if you push it. Two days if you don't. But lets be for real. You are going to push it.
Your next step is to clean out your vehicle of anything you can feel is important. Take a moment to jot down a note to let your family know what your plan is. In case they find your car but not you. Anything else of use? Find a way to take it. Now if you are like me, I always have a backpack in my truck. There is also survival equipment, first aid kit, and supplies. Give me 15 minutes and my only problem will be what to take to keep the weight down to maximize speed.
Hopefully you have a road map or atlas on you. You have a general idea where you headed and your destination. Next question is, go it alone or make some friends? The only people I'd suggest going lone wolf are the alpha male types. People who not only have the fitness to hard charge it, but have the experience too to pull it off. Everybody else? You are going to want to make some friends. That leads to who do you team up with? Elderly? No. Mothers with children? No. Women in general? No. (Sorry ladies, but when yall leave the house it is in dress clothes and the wrong footwear. You got victim written all over you if something bad goes down. When the average woman leaves the house dressed like the average man, I'll apologise for that previous statement.) What you are looking for is another single male. No older than 40. Hopefully headed in the same direction as you and who is walking with more than just the clothes on his back.
My second issue with his video is dealing with the rain. You need fresh water. Mother nature is giving it to you on silver platter. Take advantage of it. You should have a thin poncho in your vehicle. Something to just keep the wet off you and your clothes. But when it is raining, you need to do the following: gather fresh water, clean yourself, and clean your clothes. Heavy rain is not the time to be pushing miles unless you have to. Also, for you brief wearers out there, lose the briefs. A day and change of hard exercise and you are going to sweat like a pig. This is going to cause chaffing because those briefs are going to turn into sandpaper from the salt in your sweat and your back and forth motion. Just some friendly advise. Go commando. You need about a gallon of water a day if you are exercising. Two gallons if you are out of shape. So how to stay hydrated needs to be part of your plan on getting home.
So next thing to ask yourself. Do you assist others? You got one job. To get home. Sooner rather than later. The more people you help, the longer it is going to take to get there. The more likely the "damsel in distress" is a rouge to get you to stop. You lose your gear, you are probably going to lose your life. This needs to be a decision you and your entire group needs to decide on very early on. The good samaritans are going to get you held up, robbed, and possibly killed.
Last advice is about fire. Use it only when you have to. You need to keep yourself and your clothes clean and odds are you will need fire to do that. I do not recommend using fire at night. I also don't recommend it for cooking food. Espeically processed foods. Cook food smells carry. And hungry people are going to find your camp. The old saying I recall from my military days is that a lit cigarette can be seen from 1/4 a mile away at night. I actually think it is further than that. So imagine how far your camp fire will be seen? If you are still traveling after a day or two, you probably will want to switch to traveling at night. More stealth approach. Gray man approach can only carry you so far.
The longer you have to travel, the more likely it is you won't have a home to travel back to. After about day three, looting is going to get serious. Any homes that appear to be vacant will be quick and easy targets. After an EMP you can pretty much forget about first responders, emergency response, or public safety officials doing their jobs. They will be focused on protecting their family and property over yours. And if it is going to take you more than five days to get home, you really even need to question going. You need to come up with a Plan B. Maybe that Plan B is to stick with your new friends made on the road. Maybe it is to head out into the woods until you are at least ten miles from signs of civilization. Maybe it is to stop at the first "Mayberry" town you come to and make yourself invaluable to them. But in this scenario we aren't talking a few days, a few weeks, or even a few months. Depending on how wide spread it is, it may not return to normal.
I agree with just about everything you said, but I think you're overlooking the advantage potential of scavenging gear along the way. If you happen to be in company with ladies in heels, you herd them into the nearest mini-mall and hustle them toward the shoe shop or sporting goods store to find hiking shoes or boots and socks. Even if you're in a bedroom community neighborhood and all you can find is 99-cent store flip-flops, that's better than heels and you can get them walking to the nearest place with shoes. Best bet is to find the nearest sporting-goods store. You can get them all wearing hiking boots or sandals (in Summer) and also outfit them all with some really good get-home gear and packs and a tent and sleeping bags. (I mentioned some of this stuff in another comment.)
Whle you have them there you can snag solar preps and small-game hunting gear (slingshots, ammo, bands), along with camping stove, cookware, etc. Have everyone in your group grab collapsible cups, bowls and sporks, etc.
Obtain whatever hunting gear you can get, along with whatever defensive gear is available. Don't forget the telescoping fishing rods and reels and line and hooks and lures...
About that solar gear: If there's enough in stock, grab a small jackery (or similar) and panels for each backpack. TEST the jackery. Hit the power button to see if it turns on. At the very least, have each person grab a power bank and small folding panels. If you can carry it, get a bigger solar rig. If they have solar blankets, grab, grab, grab!!
Scavenge for survival and teach them what to grab for themselves. Have everyone grab backpacks and load them with their new personal gear. Shopping carts are your friends, at least in the beginning. Remember that you're still in that first 3-day window... in theory, things won't really begin to go completely 'The Road' until after that.
Post shtf, scavenging is a survival tactic that should not be overlooked and you should take full advantage at every opportunity (without being evil).
Inform the ladies that, NO, we are not going "Glamping". We are Going Home.
@@OhPervyOne Reasonable suggestions for sure. But my experience, women have only one approach to survival. Sex appeal and cohersion of men to do the work for them.
Part of the "grey man" approach for women is to not to even look like women. And to be fair, nothing sucks worse than breaking in new footwear. Especially boots. Those ladies feet are going to be blister central before the day is out. They are better off in walking shoes than boots to get them home in.
I have no idea how people will react initially if the phones don't work or are straight up dead. The electricity is out. And the cars won't start. Will they just gather around like sheep talking nonsense? Will they head home? Will they abondon their jobs immediately or just hang out thinking easy paycheck? People who are use to Uncle Sam saving the day aren't going to be open to the idea that their lives just got turned upside down and I wouldn't want to team with people who can't make decisive decisions because the alternative of being self supportive when you got $%^& with you is too hard to consider.
But although the possibility of scavanging on the open road is very real, you don't want to have to make huge detours to get even basic supplies. This will drag out your time on the road even more. You got one job. To get home. As quickly as possible. And that trip to Wally World might lead to very negative interactions with other people.
Just me, but if I know I can make it home in 16 hours of hard walking I'm going to walk with breaks until I get there. I'm not sleeping that night. I'm pushing through. I'll crash and burn once I'm back at the house.
And hopefully people have a house to come to and not an apartment. Because if you are going home to a one room apartment, you probably are no better off than being on the road. You just have a roof over your head now and nothing more. A roof that isn't even yours.
@@superdave8248 Yeah.
I strongly suspect the vast majority of people are in the dark (ironically) about the potential effects of an EMP.
What that means is, in the immediate aftermath, there will be no immediate aftermath. The clueless masses will be confused and unreactive.
At this moment... PAY ATTENTION to the people around you, as you begin your automatic watch and cell phone check. As you begin to react and move, WATCH the people around you and make note of the people who check their watch and cell phone (devices), mutter a quiet expletive and begin moving.
THESE people are Preppers. These 'first responders' are your potential MAG, if you're intent on getting cross-country fast.
Remember that we're talking about our own get-home scenario. We'll be leaving right away, because we know what just happened.
IF any of these aware persons are women, cherish them. They are preppers, too. They will be leaving fast, too... and they will likely be an asset.
Those who fail to react are ignorant and will not be looking to join you in your cross-country Get-Home trek. They haven't figured it out yet and likely never will, so leave them behind with no worries and little guilt.
MY first trick, after checking devices will be to look for a tall-ish parking garage or shopping center (I'm in L.A. near the Beverly Center), climb up to the very tippy-top and look around to see ALL of the city. If I see the entire city lights are out, then I know it's not just local.
AT THIS POINT, scavenging is entirely NON-Problematic, for the reasons mentioned above. The vast majority of ignorant masses will not recognize what just happened, much less understand its importance. The few who, like us, are aware, are busy with their own process of getting-going. Some of us will be scavenging at that point, but at that point (the very beginning), resources will not be thin enough to prompt conflicts.
Looting will begin, but while I'm grabbing a garden cart and live critter traps, everyone else in the city will be looting televisions and other electronics. While I'm grabbing water filters, a tent and solar preps, others will be looting basketballs, golf clubs, etc. Yes, there will be looting of fire-arms.
However, even the looting will take a little time to get into full swing. I'll have a free hand at my survival scavenging for some time before the real looting starts.
A NOTE on Morality:
I do make a substantial distinction between looting and scavenging. Stealing a television to sell on the street (or to use in your home) is looting. Stealing a case of toilet paper to supply your home thru an emergency is a matter of Survival. THAT is the important difference. Food/water, clothing, shelter, fuel, toiletries for living a normal clean healthy life for the duration are all about Survival. NOT about profit.
Is this stealing? Yes. But in a world in which normal business operation in not going to be happening for a long while, stealing from a warehouse business corporation is less than evil.
I speak of scavenging, which is obtaining unclaimed resources, because taking survival resources from other people (Marauder Prepper model) IS evil. I just won't do it.
Home De Pot, however... Fair Game. Once the EMP hit, the for-profit corporation just became irrelevant to me.
ANYwho... when it happens, pay attention to the people around you to see who is in the know. You'll know them by their reaction to the loss of their precious social media. ("Is the wi-fi working?")
GRAY-MAN - If you don't want to stand out, make sure you don't react when it happens. OR try to act like you're just as ignorant when your phone is dead. Perhaps at Costco you should be the one to go to the Manager and ask the obvious Karen questions. ("Is the wi-fi working?" "Why are the lights out?") Don't just walk out of there... run like you're scared... ("I don't like this. I'M LEAVING!")... afraid of the dark. But load up on some more stuff and take your cart with you. Stand outside a few minutes until there is a crowd of other shoppers with you... then quietly drift away and bug out... get home.
If you're paying attention, you might see other preppers doing the same. Assess them well; You may be on the road with them and they may end up being your MAG.
A few months since this video (and most comments) posted. I was just shoring up my gear, and like to see what others are saying. See if there is anything I hadn't considered. You had a lot to say in yours. I tend to write a lot in my comments, so here I am commenting on yours.
Agreed, get moving right away. Dont wait. I figure that the first 24 hours will be the "easiest" and probably safest before the total freak out. I am immediately walking, not waiting. Every minute counts. I figure the first hour most will be 'deer in headlights'. I agree that people will be standing around, jabbering, collecting easy pay, or just confused thinking that it is temporary. Then they may consider just going out to their cars to head home. Those will be the ones that dont know about EMPs/Solar flares/other grid down issues. So yeh, first hour or so will be the best time to cover some miles. After that, it all crumbles as folks become aware and freak out. More than once when power has suddenly gone out while at work I have been primed to take off. Figured it was best to make sure it was just a temp power outage before doing so, haha,. but that is where my mind immediately goes. Always aware, always watching, listening, and having a plan. If can't actually do said plan as practice, then at least mentally go over it-- envision the details, taste it. I drive the route and have sussed out "camp" locations along the way.
As an avid hiker, and depending on conditions, the rate of travel can reduce greatly no matter what shape. With no gear on a smooth road, easily 5-6 miles per hour the first hour. Add in inclement weather, it slows. Ice,snow, wind, excessive heat? total crawl. Have to navigate hills, bushes or occasional hiding? that also reduces speed. Could reduce rate of travel down to 1-2 miles per hour. Even less if in terrible condition.
Moleskin and duct tape-- new foot ware or broken in faves, everyone's feet will be prone to blisters and irritations. Be prepared.
Pack water but pack electrolytes. Water will only hydrate so much. After that, body is diluted and still essentially dehydrated. Experienced this once on a mountain hike in very humid weather. Ate and drank well before, had plenty of water, but was feeling really ill. Occurred to me that my electrolyte balance was off. I dug out a tube of powder and added it to a tiny bit of water. Drank up. Within minutes I could feel the life force returning. Some years ago, and I never forgot that feeling.
No fires, keep it simple. Especially after the first 24 hours. Smell, see, detect fires and cooking for miles. If desperate, then dig down to reduce visual. Carry this forward- fires will not be good.
I have a route (or 3) and a pretty solid plan for EMP if I am at work. Things get a little more complicated if I am further out at appts and such. But there is a plan, and I have made sure that husband also has a plan. I'll likely be solo unless I encounter others along the way. Hubs will likely have others around him (employees and coworkers), and I encouraged him to make use of this "strength in numbers". More than once I have encouraged those he may be on foot with to have their own bags ready to go. Who knows if any have complied. Most of the women wear steel cut boots, but I still recommended adding in a lighter but still durable pair to swap into.
Prepper since my teens, so none of this is new, and everyone has their own version of what is best.
My attire is simple, comfortable, flexible, and that always includes footwear. I always have a BOB/GHB ready in my truck as well as a pretty good "EDC". I dont care much to carry a purse, but I make a point to carry a cross body bag with some basics, including a way to break into car if using unlock no longer works. Even simple power outage in a grocery store can freak people out. Not all have back up lighting. I search for exits and options at every establishment I go into.
Clothing.. hmm. Well, I like to be ready for anything, and womens clothing tends to be for the male gaze, and expected as such in terms of wearing something new and interesting every day. Not me, all about comfort and simplicity (and I still look cute AF)- my wardrobe doesnt vary much, and I rather enjoy a basic uniform of the sort. On rare occasion when I have needed to dress up, I am the only one among anyone (male or female) that have had better suited options to change into, and have always had gear. Please dont forget to recognize that women prep too, and often already consider the attire needed to get home. If they (and men) are not preppers, then yes foot wear and clothing will be bleak, with some advantage going to men as the typical attire is basic. I know I am much more prepared than many. I can see it as I look around and listen. Come with me if you want to live. Oh, but wait, I am a woman and "have only one approach to survival.. sex appeal and cohersion".
Which reminds me, don't forget self protection.
I never see a video dealing with getting home, but first you got to get the kids from school which are miles apart maybe even counties apart.
Wouldn't it just have been better to push through, not stop and rest and get home to your loved ones that much sooner? If shtf is really happening in this scenario, I wouldn't even be able to sleep knowing my family is out there without me..
Edit: I made this comment literally seconds before the part of the video where you sort of addressed my point 🤣
Great video, cheers.