3:39 "I feel like this movie would have been easier is Snow White Herself was CG" I agree! Actually, while we are at it why not just make everything 2D animated!
I do not understand Disney's current obsession with live action remakes of classic animated films. Why live action? Why not go the Pixar route and do a cgi animated remake if they just have to do a reboot? You lose a lot of the charm and go into this creepy uncanny-valley when switching from stylized animation to live action. They are setting themselves up for failure because even if the cgi is perfect the cartoony designs and photo realistic ones clash.
You guys should have an end of year visual effect award show - from all of the reacted videos specifically to that year. Awards can be like “the most jankiest cgi of 2024”, “the most visually stunning cgi of 2024”, etc. That’s something I’d watch! 😊
“I feel like this movie would have been easier if Snow White herself was full cg” yeah it’s crazy almost like the movie should be animated or something lol
for the Snow White portion, did you guys notice the sun coming through 3 sides of the cabin? It's like there's 3 different suns, each shining through one side of the cabin. Weird, weird
@@stevemuzak8526 Yah, I don't get why they went that route. If you must revisit an old IP, just redo it. Don't try to turn a classic fairy tale into a highly divisive wokefest. And don't let your star say stupid crap in interviews. Give them contractually-mandated talking points and stay off culture war crud.
I know the trailer (and probably the movie) is dumb but this take is ridiculous. Every cinematographers use that technique for artistic and aesthetic reasons. Not every shots should be lit realistically.
15:33 That "thud" of the bridge structure has a visible weight to it. The force with which part of the bus is crumpled gives it such a nice, realistic effect.
There is this shot in the 1983 movie Twilight Zone. A kid hits the back of a moving car on a bike. I watched it 30 times trying to figure out how they did it. Please check it out!!
@@freemanwithoutthephd639 I remember them reacting to the LA destruction scene but the movie also had multiple huge tsunami scenes as they roll through the Himalayas
Also the scene in Godzilla 2014 in Hawaii I think, when he provoke a tsunami by just approach the coast I thought it was pretty cool and realistic (ignoring the giant lizard walking around)
When a huge tsunami hits landfall, the worst damage will be in low places like Florida. Could you imagine a disaster film where Mar-a-Lago gets torn apart and engulfed? All those poor spray- tanned people. The blood-curdling screams of horror, the Depends undergarments immediately filling up at the sight of their impending demise! What a thrilling movie!
The Wave (Norwegian disaster film) would have been a good one to do alongside San Andreas. It also came out in 2015, it has a completely different scale (and budget) and it's great fun.
The uncanny valley was deeeep. But I wonder if it will be like Battle Angel Alita. Where my mind just shifted after 5 minutes and it was fine. Since it was a robot, not a human.
My pet peeve about movie tsunamis is that the water is always clean and clear. If you watch video of a real tsunami, like the one in 2011 in Japan, The water is utterly dirty - absolute chocolate milk.
That’s because there’s a difference between a tsunami and a title wave. A title wave is going to look clean because it’s coming directly from the ocean itself. A real tsunami is just a quick rising of the water level and that’s why it’s going to pick up all the dirt and debris of everything around it.
@@willow-pm1zr I disagree. I think part of it is the smoke/mist and other particle effects that don't look right (and don't interact with the camera). There's that blurry shadow thing going on too that makes the lighting seem off too. The outlandish part doesn't help either of course as the physics don't seem right either, and even if they were it's so outlandish that nobody has a good reference frame to compare to
@@niceguy191 wtf do you even mean? Which shot in the entirety of cinema history has interacted with the camera? The entire point is to pretend that there's not a camera there
Right? It's even weirder because normally when that happens it's because a sequence got split up amongst different companies. A really solid example of that is Black Panther. But in this case I'm fairly certain it was just the one company handling that whole sequence. Maybe they broke it up amongst different teams but still, that's what VFX supervisors are for. I'm sure the supe saw it and was like, "This is WAY too cool not to have!" While completely ignoring that it looks like something from a totally different movie. 😅
@@JohnMarston-lo5qk I can think of many comedy and action films where blood or dirt hit the screen as a visual gag, so acting like no film has ever done it is ridiculous, and most good action and monster films, such as the first Pacific Rim, use the camera placement to enhance the effects of the action or to make the monster seem more intimidating, most good filmmakers are very aware of where there camera is in a given scene. The point is not, in fact, to 'pretend theres not a camera there.'
12:41 “They didn't even have the terminology for voxels back then.” Voxels had been a thing in computer graphics since at least 1992, where they were used extensively in a PC helicopter game called “Comanche: Maximum Overkill” (1990s video game titles had no restraint).
Can you react to "His Dark Materials" how in season 2 rifts to other worlds are displayed? Can you compare it to the (weak and unpolished) movie with a great cast but a terrible implementation
Please do react to "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.". Lots of robots, spaceships, time travel, gravitonium, Inhumans and of course more importantly Ghost Rider, Lola etc. It's got quite some stuff to get its own episode.
I hate what they did to Ghost Rider, it's good, don't get me wrong, but if you compare it to the movies, it looks horrible. It's good CGI, it took a lot of effort, it just doesn't look good.
All controversy aside, the whole snow white live action concept is creatively bankrupt. It's not utilizing the strengths of the medium of live action. They are just forcing in a live actor b/c they want to sell to ppl who prefer live action. It's insulting to the medium, to the source material, and to those who cherish the story itself.
It isn’t even about demand for live action movies. Screenings of the original animation would bring more people in than the remakes do. It’s about keeping intellectual properties but reducing royalty payments to the original creators.
I grew up hating Disney with a passion, what an evil greedy soulless corporation that cannot make art and is just a product. ITS INSANE TO ME that people are just NOW fucking angry about it! GIVE ME A BREAK, it's always been weak corporate art. but we still gobble it up people, so stop your bitching because I actually liked the Little Mermaid remake more than the original.
@@ragmanathat's just flat out wrong, they have done screenings of their original 2d movies (most recently for the disney 100th anniversary) and they don't pull anywhere near the same numbers as a live action remake. People go to see these live action remakes because they have nostalgia for the original film, but there is still this huge cultural stigma that 'animation is for kids' (ironically almost 100% of these new films are cg animated beside the real life actors). Throw in some marketable actors and you've got your next billion dollar movie. It's really that simple. People like familiarity, they'd rather see the new lion king with Beyonce in because they know the lion king and oh hey I like Beyonce rather than an original film with an actor they don't know.
@@DruNature Its insane to me how many people still PAY for their product. Disney plus streaming etc. Disney would change if people stopped buying but they dont. Even in 2024 their garbage still turns a profit
@@yakb.7690”There is no accounting for taste” is a notion that’s older than CGI, older than you and me, older than Disney, older than cinema, and older than modern English. People like things other people don’t like. That’s entertainment! Trying to assert one group is right and other is wrong is a fool’s errand.
The hair on cartoon Sam on those t-shirts is REALLY generous. His Simpsons character needs to look more like Homer. 3 or 4 last hairs just hanging on for dear life.
I know they were focusing on "city sized" tsunamis, but one of the most realistic depictions of tsunamis that always made me, and still makes me question "How did they shoot that?" was the tsunami scene from The Impossible (2012)
I don't remember the exact episode but they already covered that movie, if I remember it right one of the guys who worked in the movie was in the couch with them
Apparently there are 3 suns in the sky outside the cottage. Also, why is the cottage built for human size inhabitants WTF happened to the original occupants
Honestly the original "live action" Lion King was a miss because plenty of animals have very expressive faces. My cat shouldn't be a better actor than Mufasa.
@@KugleeKuglee all I'm saying is that it was a hit with a large audience whatever your own standards or measure is for quality. I can say Titanic and Avatar were garbage, but obviously still a hit.
@@button9 Your analogy is wrong, because Titanic and Avatar are not adaptations, they are not re-chewed bones. Moreover, they were both innovative in their time. It's the name (predecessor's fame) that sold the film and of course it's always easy to line the pockets of parents. Was it a lot cheaper to produce this than if they had to create a 3D visual like the old one? Yes. Because it was enough to scan and capture, as if all the models had to be created manually by 3D graphics artists and then animated by animators. By the way, it's funny that even with this method it would be cheaper than the old traditional technique. Moreover, compared to that, even today's 2D is cheaper.... So this is a technophile tech-demo than a true art.
That bridge shot!!! I got so memorized specifically by the cable from the bridge landing because it has such impact. The way it crushes the bus *at* the edge of it and sort sends its own shockwave around it ect. Wow. Watching it in slo-mo there's actually an incredible amount of detail. I wonder (I couldn't hazard a guess) how much of the shot is the core simulation and how much of it is elements and like which elements are which and how much stitching between them is going on.
For Snow White, it's ironic how the producers wanted to make up their own story and changed the dwarves into something else and also talked about inclusivity and whatever. Then they get backlashed for it, even Peter Dinklage the actor who portrays Tyrion in Game of Thrones called out Disney. After that backlash they replaced whatever they were originally go to do with CG dwarves instead of casting real dwarf actors. I dont know how much more hypocrisy you can get with it. And with all these controversies surrounding the film, it's going to be review bombed on release
You have it backwards, Dinklage was upset that they would be casting little people to play "dwarves" (which actually pissed off a LOT of Little actors who wanted to be in the movie but who don't have the cache that Dinklage has), so then they pivoted to the magical beings, but then people got mad at that, so that's why we have... whatever that is now.
That's the age we're currently in: damned if you do and damned if you don't. I consider myself a part of a progressive crowd, but sometimes it's a whole lot of cutting off the nose to spite the face and I can see why people backlash and resist progressiveness when it gets ridiculous trying to satisfy a small percentage of people who aren't even the audience for these things.
You're confused. Disney doesn't believe in anything but money so there's no hypocrisy. They thought they would make more money doing one thing then decided they would make more. Money doing another. That's not hypocritical. It's only hypocritical if you believe Disney actually gives a shit, which they don't.
The giant main cable on the bridge in the San Andreas scene really felt like it had weight when it slammed down into the bridge deck and smashed the cars and especially that bus. Great shot.
The like snap and shudder of the bridge in San Andreas and then the suspension cable coming down. Holy cow what a good shot. Looks exactly like how I'd expect it to.
@@Suman-t5v Some of the controversy is justified. The actress who plays Snow White in the film is turbo woke, like she hates the idea of the original Snow White film. The idea that the original was focused on a love story where she gets saved by a prince bothers her. So now this new Snow White is going to be "independent" and won't need no man. The other controversy with Gal Gadot is just silly though. All the "free palestine" people are trying to cancel Gal Gadot because she was in the Israeli army before. But all Israeli citizens have to serve in the Israeli army. It's law. So they're canceling her for something she never even had a choice in.
@@RealEllenDeGeneres Thats fine with me, I'm not a cry baby, I don't fucking care about an actress in a kids movie cash grab remake of a kids movie cash grab, maybe it's just free publicity for the movie that we are just gonna put on 500 times for our kids on disney plus anyway, regardless of how much they make or spent and regardless of the actresses tweets. It's really not that deep. It's hilarious to think about dudes getting mad at Disney lead female characters, nothing important to talk or think about?
12:00 "Dang! What would you do?" 11:55 Either accept your fate and enjoy your last moment with your loved one, or 13:57 Risk it all, and take a chance on fate. On a side note, as Halloween is around the corner, can you look at the movie "Annihilation" from 2018? Mutated Bear and the Lighthouse scene in particular...
It's bizarre. He seems to be pretty much the only person with dwarfism who thinks it's offensive for short people to play short characters. Warwick Davis literally runs an agency for dwarf actors.
@@andybrice2711 That's only partially true. He thinks it's offensive for short people to play 'short characters', not 'characters that happen to be short'. He hates it even more when people don't understand the difference. I am not particularly bothered by that. Everyone has their hill, and I have seen worse hills than that.
@@andybrice2711 It feels like gatekeeping to me. He "made it" thanks to being in Game of Thrones and has had steady work since, maybe he was afraid if someone or others get recognition for their acting abilities it would potentially take away roles for him. Or maybe he's just upset after being replaced in Destiny or "That Wizard came from the moon."
@@worsel555 Dinklage spent years turning down roles that he felt were demeaning. Other people took those roles, presumably sometimes not believing them to be demeaning but at least some have been quoted as saying they hated selling out but they 'needed' the work. Dinklage's stance on this subject long pre-dates his big success. That doesn't necessarily mean he's right and indeed I hope he would agree that he does not speak for all dwarfs, but you are being very unfair to him, and misleading to your readers, when you suggest his motivation is selfish.
I don't like the changes in style on Mufasa. Yes, previous movie looks like a natgeo documentary, but it has a consistent style. Now it clears look like they are forcing something that doesn't belong in there. Some expressions look like they were made with photoshop liquify on top of a real lion photo.
My weird take is that they shouldn't have made Scars birth name being Taka cannon. It's mentioned in the newest trailor. The name cones from a side anthology series, and Taka is Swahili for trash. Like that's somehow better than Scar. And at least in the book, they were actual siblings instead of Mufasa apparently just floating in half-conscious.
The joke with tsunamis in NYC is that what they show of Manhattan would never happen, it would have to come in straight at Raritan Bay and then make a 90 degree right hand turn and head north through the Narrows. Also two very large breakpoints of Staten Island and Brooklyn.
The dwarves were never life size people, I am almost 100% sure that the photo of the “magical creatures” are completely different characters. I’m pretty sure the plan from the start was cg dwarves.
I got so exited about the new merch drop that I ran out my room and caught my finger in my door and it almost broke my finger 😭😭 I love the new merch though. I've always loved the channel I love what you guys do and you guys have inspired me to start getting into VFX and sound design and I just want to say thank you
This analyzation of tsunami scenes in movies made me immediately think of The Impossible. Every part of that movie looked/felt so real. I also recommend the three best "disaster" movies I've ever seen: The Wave, The Quake, and The Burning Sea. All of these would be worth a spotlight on the show.
I am such a big fan! I also I love it when you guys talk about shots I worked on. San Andreas was my 3rd film doing water at Scanline vfx. That show was so much fun to work on. And a lot of cool simulation. But just to correct. All the fx at Scanline are done in 3dsmax using their proprietary software Flowline for all fluid simulation. The rigid bodies on San Andreas were all done in thinking particle
Honestly, the only real issue I have with the Snow White movie is how "Snow White" doesn't have pale white skin, the one thing that Snow White is literally canonically known for...
Haha, nice, you have no idea how many complaints I've heard about Disney not staying true to the animated characters on my Louis the Alligator live action video. Still honored and happy Jordan had a look!🎉
Would love to see your opinion on the amazing practical effects used to make Little Shop of Horrors... the larger Audrey II scenes were filmed at half speed so the puppeteers could keep up with the needs of syncing to the music... then the film was sped up... beautifully done, but the only tell is looking at the physical actors sway a little too fast. Also... the alternate ending is AMAZING and I dunno what the budget was for that, but it was a spectacular sequence that never got a theatrical release! I appreciate the content you guys produce! Keep it up!
17:05 Wren: "It's not like a giant wall of water coming through the city." The Day After Tomorrow voice on the bus drivers radio: "A wall of water coming toward New York City!"
It's a little crazy that the angle they took was Gal Godot being the "controversial figure" when the BIGGEST problem in this movie's peoduction has been rachel ziegler
Yea. She had clear contempt and hostility for the source material and basically thought she was doing the world a favor by updating a sexist/racist/ableist movie. “That’s Hollywood, baby!”
The reason people hate Snow White is because Rachel Ziegler went on a tour of hating on the original movie, and just being extremely unlikable and snooty
Couldn't agree more. The expressive faces in this style of animation looks so so creepy and weird. Surprised they didn't say more about just how freaky they look.
The dwarf actors are very pissed off at Dinklage because he's the only person in the town who gets jobs, and he goes and craps on the possibility of hiring 7 people who could use a change in their careers. Shees.
Too bad for him then. I'm an 80's kid and if you ask me to name a dwarf actor the first name that comes to mind is Warwick Davis. Peter is a great actor and he did a great job as Tyrion Lannister, but Warwick has been in many things I've seen (Willow, the Leprechaun, Wicket and more recently Professor Flitwick/Griphook) he will always be the OG iconic dwarf actor to me.
@@wallythewondercorncake8657 She’s the one who pretentiously started pronouncing it with a silent t during press tours, knowing full well that’s not how it’s pronounced. So that’s most other people pronounce it that way.
Totally off topic but I just rewatched LotR trilogy and was super impressed with how they all held up. The effects definitely have some rough edges at time but it blends into the overall color, grit, feel, whatever of the film so it really works. I think. Also I would love to see y’all geek out about the scenes with the orcs under Isengard, and the final scene of the tower exploding.
Disney and everyone else needs to stop calling the remake of the lion King live action. Nothing during the whole run time was ever captured on a real camera. It is realistically animated and nothing else.
I love Peter Dinklage but I think he's a little too salty on the subject. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs isn't a movie about a woman and seven other human beings with dwarfism, it's a movie about a woman with seven Fictional beings called dwarves who happen to be short. Sorry Peter, gotta call you out on this one.
@@joechapman8208 ^^^^ Always that one person who thinks they're being the "champion" defending someone they are not like, but think they can speak for everyone.
@@joechapman8208 Except it doesnt affect Dinklage in the slightest, he just complained on social media and literally ruined a chance of any other dwarf actor to ever get this role. We respect the opinions of those dwarf actors who were actually affected by this nonsense, the ones who were angry with Dinklage's comment, the ones who actually NEED work to pay their bills, and were more than happy to star in Snow White as a dwarf. Because unlike Dinklage other dwarf actors aren't precious little snowflakes who blow every mention of a word "dwarf" out of propotion, and dont find fictional dwarves in a fairytale offensive.
@@joechapman8208 I appreciate rickitynick4463 defending people like my brother, who played Dopey in runs of Snow White throughout the pacific region. Dinklage is wrong on this, those roles are a big pay check and a big chance to break into other movies.
What's disturbing about Snow White now is no announcement has been made about who is voice acting the dwarves, will they even bother to hire little people for voicing them in a recording studio?
Not to hark on the other crew members but only when dean does an ad/sponsor segment of some kind is when I watch the whole thing. Dude has got a perfect way to showing off stuff. At least to me. Dude would make a great realtor lol
The bridge platform shakes so violently that all cars and people should be flying away, but luckily they all have magnetic properties that keeps them in contact with with the bridge
3:39 "I feel like this movie would have been easier is Snow White Herself was CG" I agree! Actually, while we are at it why not just make everything 2D animated!
And I guess while we're ate it, just keep the original lmao.
Silly Billy the live action Lion King is also all CG that doesn't stop them
@@kingoftherevolution4855dumb Danny they’re talking about Snow White
@@elib7502what happened to the original???
I that way, they could easily fix the skin color...
I do not understand Disney's current obsession with live action remakes of classic animated films. Why live action? Why not go the Pixar route and do a cgi animated remake if they just have to do a reboot? You lose a lot of the charm and go into this creepy uncanny-valley when switching from stylized animation to live action.
They are setting themselves up for failure because even if the cgi is perfect the cartoony designs and photo realistic ones clash.
Why even remake them at all? It's not the original movies are bad just because they're old
Money and a drastically different look. Don’t worry, they’ll go back and Pixar up some of them too.
Just went back and rewatched the og Snow White awhile ago and can confirm it’s a banger, doesn’t need a remake lol
@@BadgerStyler its to hold onto ownership of these titles so they dont enter public domain I think?
The unfortunate answer is even though all the remakes suck, they make billions of dollars off them because so many people see them anyway.
You guys should have an end of year visual effect award show - from all of the reacted videos specifically to that year.
Awards can be like “the most jankiest cgi of 2024”, “the most visually stunning cgi of 2024”, etc.
That’s something I’d watch! 😊
great idea !
Name it the Grouch Awards.😉
And the cgi hall of fame
Like what deadmeat does.
Great idea ngl
The Tsunami sequences in The Impossible are incredible. Definitely worth a watch and breakdown.
This right here though! It may not be super flashy but it’s super real
I was coming to the comments to say this.
14:55 "Wow! Yum...my eyes are eating gooood!" I have never, everrrr in my life, heard someone utter than that phrase until right now.
Came here to say this. New vocal stim unlocked
“I feel like this movie would have been easier if Snow White herself was full cg” yeah it’s crazy almost like the movie should be animated or something lol
CG doesn't fulfill their diversity quotas
Yeah - imagine a Snow White movie that was fully Animated! I wonder what that would look like? Hmmmmmmm
"CG in a better lead actor"
fully animated you say ! you mean like the entire Lion King remake ? and upcoming "Mufasa" movie.
@@chainsov Such as casting actual dwarves instead of making them CG?
for the Snow White portion, did you guys notice the sun coming through 3 sides of the cabin? It's like there's 3 different suns, each shining through one side of the cabin. Weird, weird
Oh I see what you did there😂 Weird? Weird!
This movie was a mess from the beginning. They went full woke and people hate it. Now they trying to fix it but it's already too late.
@@stevemuzak8526 Yah, I don't get why they went that route. If you must revisit an old IP, just redo it. Don't try to turn a classic fairy tale into a highly divisive wokefest. And don't let your star say stupid crap in interviews. Give them contractually-mandated talking points and stay off culture war crud.
I know the trailer (and probably the movie) is dumb but this take is ridiculous. Every cinematographers use that technique for artistic and aesthetic reasons. Not every shots should be lit realistically.
@@stevemuzak8526 lol, they didn't go woke. Woke would mean actually hiring little people, and not hiring Gal Gadot.
15:33 That "thud" of the bridge structure has a visible weight to it. The force with which part of the bus is crumpled gives it such a nice, realistic effect.
Speaking of excellent water shots, have you guys ever looked at a penguin movie called Surf's Up? Those water shots had me gawking.
There is this shot in the 1983 movie Twilight Zone. A kid hits the back of a moving car on a bike. I watched it 30 times trying to figure out how they did it. Please check it out!!
Yooo!!
The movie "2012" also has a tsunami scene
Right? I thought for sure they'd look at that one too.
I ”think“ they did that a couple years ago, but I’m probably wrong
They reacted to that movie like 3 years ago
@@freemanwithoutthephd639 I remember them reacting to the LA destruction scene but the movie also had multiple huge tsunami scenes as they roll through the Himalayas
Also the scene in Godzilla 2014 in Hawaii I think, when he provoke a tsunami by just approach the coast I thought it was pretty cool and realistic (ignoring the giant lizard walking around)
How did you guy talk about Tsunami in films without even a mention of 2012's ''The Impossible'' it is where my mind goes when I think Tsunami in films
They’ve talked about it in detail in other episodes.
@@AndWillywhat episodes?
They already talked about "The Impossible". This episode was about much bigger tidal waves than the ones we've seen in real life.
Agreed. The Impossible is "THE" tsunami movie.
When a huge tsunami hits landfall, the worst damage will be in low places like Florida. Could you imagine a disaster film where Mar-a-Lago gets torn apart and engulfed? All those poor spray- tanned people. The blood-curdling screams of horror, the Depends undergarments immediately filling up at the sight of their impending demise! What a thrilling movie!
The bridge shot is indeed freaking incredible!
San Andreas' rooftop pool sloshing with perfect earthquake harmonics. That was impressive water SFX.
San Andreas instead of 2012 is crazy, lol
The Wave (Norwegian disaster film) would have been a good one to do alongside San Andreas. It also came out in 2015, it has a completely different scale (and budget) and it's great fun.
right 😭
i think they already react to 2012. maybe around 2 years ago
The worst uncanny valley part of the Dwarfs is Dopey looking like Alfred E. Neuman.
Madness !
What, me worry?
its not that deep. everyone grow up
The uncanny valley was deeeep. But I wonder if it will be like Battle Angel Alita. Where my mind just shifted after 5 minutes and it was fine. Since it was a robot, not a human.
I dont get uncanny valley at all since the proportions are so out there.
The big eyes was a feature of the marsians. If you look at her memory flashbacks, all marsians had big eyes.
Alita was supersweet. I like that movie in 3d.
Technically full-prosthetic cyborg...
@@iridescentgherkin oh. I was very unspecific. You are ofc 100% correct. Brain (and spine?) is human. But the body/face isnt.
14:57 I love how wren and jordan are losing their shit, and Sam just raises his eyebrows haha
15:19 I feel like we need an episode dedicated to shots of the golden gate bridge and other famous monuments getting destroyed.
My pet peeve about movie tsunamis is that the water is always clean and clear. If you watch video of a real tsunami, like the one in 2011 in Japan, The water is utterly dirty - absolute chocolate milk.
That’s because there’s a difference between a tsunami and a title wave. A title wave is going to look clean because it’s coming directly from the ocean itself. A real tsunami is just a quick rising of the water level and that’s why it’s going to pick up all the dirt and debris of everything around it.
That San Andreas clip looks so fake and bad and then suddenly that wiggly bridge shot looks so real it's crazy
it only looks fake because it's so outlandish
@@willow-pm1zr I disagree. I think part of it is the smoke/mist and other particle effects that don't look right (and don't interact with the camera). There's that blurry shadow thing going on too that makes the lighting seem off too. The outlandish part doesn't help either of course as the physics don't seem right either, and even if they were it's so outlandish that nobody has a good reference frame to compare to
@@niceguy191 wtf do you even mean? Which shot in the entirety of cinema history has interacted with the camera? The entire point is to pretend that there's not a camera there
Right? It's even weirder because normally when that happens it's because a sequence got split up amongst different companies. A really solid example of that is Black Panther. But in this case I'm fairly certain it was just the one company handling that whole sequence. Maybe they broke it up amongst different teams but still, that's what VFX supervisors are for. I'm sure the supe saw it and was like, "This is WAY too cool not to have!" While completely ignoring that it looks like something from a totally different movie. 😅
@@JohnMarston-lo5qk I can think of many comedy and action films where blood or dirt hit the screen as a visual gag, so acting like no film has ever done it is ridiculous, and most good action and monster films, such as the first Pacific Rim, use the camera placement to enhance the effects of the action or to make the monster seem more intimidating, most good filmmakers are very aware of where there camera is in a given scene. The point is not, in fact, to 'pretend theres not a camera there.'
Why do we need a new Snow White movie?
We dont. Disney wants money tho
Money
Once Trump becomes president, he’ll save companies like Disney because “the American economy is more important than immoral film making”
We don't. Disney does.
It's gonna Bomb 💣
Oh, you should have added the Tsunami from the (5 million USD total budget) Norwegian movie "Bølgen" (The Wave) from 2015.
Definitely! Don't know why they didn't because they did include a shot from that movie at 11:26
12:41 “They didn't even have the terminology for voxels back then.” Voxels had been a thing in computer graphics since at least 1992, where they were used extensively in a PC helicopter game called “Comanche: Maximum Overkill” (1990s video game titles had no restraint).
They are so right about that San Andreas shot. When the main cable hits the bus! Damn... So many little details to look at.
Can you react to "His Dark Materials" how in season 2 rifts to other worlds are displayed?
Can you compare it to the (weak and unpolished) movie with a great cast but a terrible implementation
The have compared season 1 with the movie
The movie had solid effects for its time, it won an Oscar for best visual effects. Comparing it to something decades apart is unfair.
Please do react to "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.". Lots of robots, spaceships, time travel, gravitonium, Inhumans and of course more importantly Ghost Rider, Lola etc.
It's got quite some stuff to get its own episode.
Some nice stuff, actually.
Hive had great effects as well. Not many scenes, obviously, but dope character
And with a wide range in quality. Would be interesting for them to talk about both the good and the bad effects of the show :)
I want them to also react to stunts, especially Skye vs Hydra one take.
I hate what they did to Ghost Rider, it's good, don't get me wrong, but if you compare it to the movies, it looks horrible. It's good CGI, it took a lot of effort, it just doesn't look good.
You guys should react to dragon slayer (1981). 25% of the budget was spent on the go-motion dragon
That still holds up pretty well
Great film and the dragon animation from Dragonslayer clearly inspired so many dragons in today’s films / TV
love Sam's take on things and him not being afraid to say his mind about how things look
14:08 the guy in the white that looks back half way when the lines go. The love that went into that.
All controversy aside, the whole snow white live action concept is creatively bankrupt. It's not utilizing the strengths of the medium of live action. They are just forcing in a live actor b/c they want to sell to ppl who prefer live action. It's insulting to the medium, to the source material, and to those who cherish the story itself.
It isn’t even about demand for live action movies. Screenings of the original animation would bring more people in than the remakes do. It’s about keeping intellectual properties but reducing royalty payments to the original creators.
I grew up hating Disney with a passion, what an evil greedy soulless corporation that cannot make art and is just a product. ITS INSANE TO ME that people are just NOW fucking angry about it! GIVE ME A BREAK, it's always been weak corporate art. but we still gobble it up people, so stop your bitching because I actually liked the Little Mermaid remake more than the original.
@@ragmanathat's just flat out wrong, they have done screenings of their original 2d movies (most recently for the disney 100th anniversary) and they don't pull anywhere near the same numbers as a live action remake.
People go to see these live action remakes because they have nostalgia for the original film, but there is still this huge cultural stigma that 'animation is for kids' (ironically almost 100% of these new films are cg animated beside the real life actors). Throw in some marketable actors and you've got your next billion dollar movie. It's really that simple. People like familiarity, they'd rather see the new lion king with Beyonce in because they know the lion king and oh hey I like Beyonce rather than an original film with an actor they don't know.
@@DruNature Its insane to me how many people still PAY for their product. Disney plus streaming etc. Disney would change if people stopped buying but they dont. Even in 2024 their garbage still turns a profit
@@yakb.7690”There is no accounting for taste” is a notion that’s older than CGI, older than you and me, older than Disney, older than cinema, and older than modern English.
People like things other people don’t like. That’s entertainment! Trying to assert one group is right and other is wrong is a fool’s errand.
The hair on cartoon Sam on those t-shirts is REALLY generous. His Simpsons character needs to look more like Homer. 3 or 4 last hairs just hanging on for dear life.
the face that sam makes 5:15 is legendary
Omg I had the same thought and I didn’t even notice Sam’s face 😅
I know they were focusing on "city sized" tsunamis, but one of the most realistic depictions of tsunamis that always made me, and still makes me question "How did they shoot that?" was the tsunami scene from The Impossible (2012)
I don't remember the exact episode but they already covered that movie, if I remember it right one of the guys who worked in the movie was in the couch with them
The tsunami scenes in The Impossible and The Hereafter are great, too. Smaller scale but even more incredible VFX
Apparently there are 3 suns in the sky outside the cottage. Also, why is the cottage built for human size inhabitants WTF happened to the original occupants
Eaten by the dwarfs.
I never noticed the ceiling is high enough for a human. 😂
They should react to the rest of the movie 2012 and not just the Yellowstone scene
Honestly the original "live action" Lion King was a miss because plenty of animals have very expressive faces. My cat shouldn't be a better actor than Mufasa.
Couldn't have been that much of a miss with a $1.6B box office
@@button9 Money is never the measure of quality. If flies swarm onto a pile of crap, it still remains crap.
@@KugleeKuglee all I'm saying is that it was a hit with a large audience whatever your own standards or measure is for quality. I can say Titanic and Avatar were garbage, but obviously still a hit.
@@button9 Your analogy is wrong, because Titanic and Avatar are not adaptations, they are not re-chewed bones. Moreover, they were both innovative in their time.
It's the name (predecessor's fame) that sold the film and of course it's always easy to line the pockets of parents.
Was it a lot cheaper to produce this than if they had to create a 3D visual like the old one? Yes. Because it was enough to scan and capture, as if all the models had to be created manually by 3D graphics artists and then animated by animators. By the way, it's funny that even with this method it would be cheaper than the old traditional technique. Moreover, compared to that, even today's 2D is cheaper....
So this is a technophile tech-demo than a true art.
I can’t imagine the dwarves looking good just standing still and talking
That bridge shot!!! I got so memorized specifically by the cable from the bridge landing because it has such impact. The way it crushes the bus *at* the edge of it and sort sends its own shockwave around it ect. Wow. Watching it in slo-mo there's actually an incredible amount of detail. I wonder (I couldn't hazard a guess) how much of the shot is the core simulation and how much of it is elements and like which elements are which and how much stitching between them is going on.
For Snow White, it's ironic how the producers wanted to make up their own story and changed the dwarves into something else and also talked about inclusivity and whatever. Then they get backlashed for it, even Peter Dinklage the actor who portrays Tyrion in Game of Thrones called out Disney. After that backlash they replaced whatever they were originally go to do with CG dwarves instead of casting real dwarf actors. I dont know how much more hypocrisy you can get with it. And with all these controversies surrounding the film, it's going to be review bombed on release
You have it backwards, Dinklage was upset that they would be casting little people to play "dwarves" (which actually pissed off a LOT of Little actors who wanted to be in the movie but who don't have the cache that Dinklage has), so then they pivoted to the magical beings, but then people got mad at that, so that's why we have... whatever that is now.
That's the age we're currently in: damned if you do and damned if you don't. I consider myself a part of a progressive crowd, but sometimes it's a whole lot of cutting off the nose to spite the face and I can see why people backlash and resist progressiveness when it gets ridiculous trying to satisfy a small percentage of people who aren't even the audience for these things.
Woke is just another word for hypocrisy.
You're confused. Disney doesn't believe in anything but money so there's no hypocrisy. They thought they would make more money doing one thing then decided they would make more. Money doing another. That's not hypocritical. It's only hypocritical if you believe Disney actually gives a shit, which they don't.
@@Tensen01 I still don't get the problem. Cast little guys to play Dwarfs sounds perfect. Typecasts are a normal thing.
When Was "Mufasa: The Lion King" a thing?
Disney
I don’t think that movie is even out yet.
Who cares I can't wait for Sonic 3. Where the CGI characters actually have expressive faces.
@@liamphibia How embarrassing.
@@Jessica18010 the release is in december
Now the weekend has started!!
The giant main cable on the bridge in the San Andreas scene really felt like it had weight when it slammed down into the bridge deck and smashed the cars and especially that bus. Great shot.
The like snap and shudder of the bridge in San Andreas and then the suspension cable coming down. Holy cow what a good shot. Looks exactly like how I'd expect it to.
12:00 I would die Jordan.. I would die...
Not much else one could do.
I just loved when Sam gave such a dismissive eye roll at 5:15 when they were talking about the backlash and controversies about the Snow White remake.
why though?
"Don't think, consume product and get excited for next product"
@@Suman-t5v Some of the controversy is justified. The actress who plays Snow White in the film is turbo woke, like she hates the idea of the original Snow White film. The idea that the original was focused on a love story where she gets saved by a prince bothers her. So now this new Snow White is going to be "independent" and won't need no man. The other controversy with Gal Gadot is just silly though. All the "free palestine" people are trying to cancel Gal Gadot because she was in the Israeli army before. But all Israeli citizens have to serve in the Israeli army. It's law. So they're canceling her for something she never even had a choice in.
@@RealEllenDeGeneres Thank you for the explanation. ❤
@@RealEllenDeGeneres Thats fine with me, I'm not a cry baby, I don't fucking care about an actress in a kids movie cash grab remake of a kids movie cash grab, maybe it's just free publicity for the movie that we are just gonna put on 500 times for our kids on disney plus anyway, regardless of how much they make or spent and regardless of the actresses tweets. It's really not that deep. It's hilarious to think about dudes getting mad at Disney lead female characters, nothing important to talk or think about?
12:00 "Dang! What would you do?"
11:55 Either accept your fate and enjoy your last moment with your loved one,
or 13:57 Risk it all, and take a chance on fate.
On a side note, as Halloween is around the corner, can you look at the movie "Annihilation" from 2018? Mutated Bear and the Lighthouse scene in particular...
Surfing
@@Boyinthecircle 🏄🏄🏄
14:45, this is peak thinking Particles right there. Will Wallace doing all the bridge and car dynamics.
I wish they would react to all the different CGI in the movie “2012”; it’s still my favorite “end of the world” movies! The effects are fantastic! 🤞🏻
The dwarfs look "Weird, weird!!!".
Thankfully for all of us, it seems like Zeigler's career will die before Snow White even comes out. She's made herself unhireable.
The dwarf actors couldn't get hired. Who knows? It's Hollywood, baby!
The CG dwarf have little to no specular reflections on their eyes, that's why we kinda don't get the feeling of life from them!
That totally should have made this video.
@LeftJoystick why would you want that? She's a young woman, she deserves to have a nice career.
I love how Peter Dinklage just kept 7 dwarf actors from getting a HUGE payday.
I doubt it would have been huge. But it would have been work.
It's bizarre. He seems to be pretty much the only person with dwarfism who thinks it's offensive for short people to play short characters. Warwick Davis literally runs an agency for dwarf actors.
@@andybrice2711 That's only partially true. He thinks it's offensive for short people to play 'short characters', not 'characters that happen to be short'. He hates it even more when people don't understand the difference. I am not particularly bothered by that. Everyone has their hill, and I have seen worse hills than that.
@@andybrice2711 It feels like gatekeeping to me. He "made it" thanks to being in Game of Thrones and has had steady work since, maybe he was afraid if someone or others get recognition for their acting abilities it would potentially take away roles for him. Or maybe he's just upset after being replaced in Destiny or "That Wizard came from the moon."
@@worsel555 Dinklage spent years turning down roles that he felt were demeaning. Other people took those roles, presumably sometimes not believing them to be demeaning but at least some have been quoted as saying they hated selling out but they 'needed' the work. Dinklage's stance on this subject long pre-dates his big success. That doesn't necessarily mean he's right and indeed I hope he would agree that he does not speak for all dwarfs, but you are being very unfair to him, and misleading to your readers, when you suggest his motivation is selfish.
I don't like the changes in style on Mufasa. Yes, previous movie looks like a natgeo documentary, but it has a consistent style. Now it clears look like they are forcing something that doesn't belong in there. Some expressions look like they were made with photoshop liquify on top of a real lion photo.
My weird take is that they shouldn't have made Scars birth name being Taka cannon. It's mentioned in the newest trailor. The name cones from a side anthology series, and Taka is Swahili for trash. Like that's somehow better than Scar. And at least in the book, they were actual siblings instead of Mufasa apparently just floating in half-conscious.
It's like uncanny valley for animals.
The joke with tsunamis in NYC is that what they show of Manhattan would never happen, it would have to come in straight at Raritan Bay and then make a 90 degree right hand turn and head north through the Narrows. Also two very large breakpoints of Staten Island and Brooklyn.
I had to watch that San Andreas bridge shot over and over. Each time I noticed a new little detail that made it even better.
14:33 bro said it's a shipping container. lol
wren: just one..
The dwarves were never life size people, I am almost 100% sure that the photo of the “magical creatures” are completely different characters. I’m pretty sure the plan from the start was cg dwarves.
How about the tsunami from The Impossible 2012?
6:11 the editor matching the knocks on the tables with music ,is just 🤌
The flooded river in The Good Dinosaur blew me away. Photorealistic and above and beyond the film's general cartoony style.
Disney needs to stop with "Live action" remakes and start with Muppet remakes.
I couldn't agree more
Good call. I've been waiting to hear from people cry that muppets remakes aren't necessary.
Hell yes!
React to more of the Pirates of the Caribbean, or at the very least the 5th one where they part the sea.
They already have. There was something very wrong with it-- no shadows or something.
At least we didn't get Snow White and the 7 homeless people
I think "Snow White and the Seven Baristas" was the best description.
..yet! 😆
Y'all are so far gone
You mean temporarily unhoused? 🤔🤔
Honestly, I'm surprised there isn't a Dwarf in a wheelchair. With an emotional support peacock.
@15:31 That bus getting SMASHED by the cables... *chefs kiss*
I got so exited about the new merch drop that I ran out my room and caught my finger in my door and it almost broke my finger 😭😭 I love the new merch though. I've always loved the channel I love what you guys do and you guys have inspired me to start getting into VFX and sound design and I just want to say thank you
Guys please please please react to District 9 if you haven’t already. The cgi was pretty considering the film came out in 2009
Pretty good ***
@@maiyadecena-chinn9089 they did. way back in episode 38.
At 17:50 , what is Wheel Water? 😂😂
PLEASE DO ARTISTS REACT TO BEATLE JUICE 2 compared to their first movie - so many sick effects!
This analyzation of tsunami scenes in movies made me immediately think of The Impossible. Every part of that movie looked/felt so real. I also recommend the three best "disaster" movies I've ever seen: The Wave, The Quake, and The Burning Sea. All of these would be worth a spotlight on the show.
I am such a big fan! I also I love it when you guys talk about shots I worked on.
San Andreas was my 3rd film doing water at Scanline vfx. That show was so much fun to work on. And a lot of cool simulation.
But just to correct. All the fx at Scanline are done in 3dsmax using their proprietary software Flowline for all fluid simulation.
The rigid bodies on San Andreas were all done in thinking particle
Honestly, the only real issue I have with the Snow White movie is how "Snow White" doesn't have pale white skin, the one thing that Snow White is literally canonically known for...
WAAAAAIIIIIIT???!!!=!?!?!?"the lack of dwarf actors???? thats not why people were upset. BRO!
It was one of the reasons. Among many others
Haha, nice, you have no idea how many complaints I've heard about Disney not staying true to the animated characters on my Louis the Alligator live action video. Still honored and happy Jordan had a look!🎉
Very good job removing the timer on sponser timing whoa 😂
Would love to see your opinion on the amazing practical effects used to make Little Shop of Horrors... the larger Audrey II scenes were filmed at half speed so the puppeteers could keep up with the needs of syncing to the music... then the film was sped up... beautifully done, but the only tell is looking at the physical actors sway a little too fast. Also... the alternate ending is AMAZING and I dunno what the budget was for that, but it was a spectacular sequence that never got a theatrical release! I appreciate the content you guys produce! Keep it up!
What Peter Dinklage did was some mastermind play you would only see in Game of Thrones... oh wait...
you should have shown the movie the impossible that tsunami is awesome
Or just stop with the unnecessary remakes and use this tech for original stuff with no baggage
None of the good creative writers want to work for these greedy tyrants anymore xD
Original? Disney? Those words don't go together. Not in decades, anyway.
17:05
Wren: "It's not like a giant wall of water coming through the city."
The Day After Tomorrow voice on the bus drivers radio: "A wall of water coming toward New York City!"
I could watch a whole multi-part series just about them dissecting and talking about the effects on disaster movies!
It's a little crazy that the angle they took was Gal Godot being the "controversial figure" when the BIGGEST problem in this movie's peoduction has been rachel ziegler
Yea. She had clear contempt and hostility for the source material and basically thought she was doing the world a favor by updating a sexist/racist/ableist movie. “That’s Hollywood, baby!”
@@choreomaniacshe’s not updating anything… she didnt make the movie
@@Seankichu to hear her in interviews, she wrote, directed, cast, did sfx snd cgi, color graded and marketed the movie.
Both are
The reason people hate Snow White is because Rachel Ziegler went on a tour of hating on the original movie, and just being extremely unlikable and snooty
I like her
People hate Rachel Zegler as Snow White because they are racist.
Nope. The Mufasa faces creeped me out immediately! They look terrifying on semi-photo-realistic bodies. Don’t like it!
Couldn't agree more. The expressive faces in this style of animation looks so so creepy and weird. Surprised they didn't say more about just how freaky they look.
its not that deep.everyone grow up
The dwarf actors are very pissed off at Dinklage because he's the only person in the town who gets jobs, and he goes and craps on the possibility of hiring 7 people who could use a change in their careers. Shees.
Earliest tidal wave sequence I can think of from Deluge in 1933, mostly just a clever use of miniatures and such, but still kind of fun to see.
Guys can you react to mars attacks? The cgi was way ahead of its time
I think they have. Not a focus for a whole episode tho
They already did
I couldn't point you to the specific episode, but I know I've seen it on here.
Peter Dinklage is just mad he cant clone himself six times so he can have a monopoly on being the only dwarf actor.
Too bad for him then. I'm an 80's kid and if you ask me to name a dwarf actor the first name that comes to mind is Warwick Davis. Peter is a great actor and he did a great job as Tyrion Lannister, but Warwick has been in many things I've seen (Willow, the Leprechaun, Wicket and more recently Professor Flitwick/Griphook) he will always be the OG iconic dwarf actor to me.
The fact that Dinklage apparently thinks they're supposed to be human little people and not a fantasy race like in The Lord of the Rings is hilarious.
@@thenecrosanct4906 There is only Verne Troyer for me!
The "t" in "Gadot" isn't silent, she's not French.
She’s not French, she’s pretentious.
@@daudimasinde6280 That has nothing to do with my comment.
@@wallythewondercorncake8657 She’s the one who pretentiously started pronouncing it with a silent t during press tours, knowing full well that’s not how it’s pronounced. So that’s most other people pronounce it that way.
@@daudimasinde6280 No, she doesn't say it with a silent t. She has stated in multiple interviews that the t isn't silent.
No she"s Czech and her real name is Greenstein
Some of my favourite comfort movies covered here. Thank you,
Totally off topic but I just rewatched LotR trilogy and was super impressed with how they all held up. The effects definitely have some rough edges at time but it blends into the overall color, grit, feel, whatever of the film so it really works. I think. Also I would love to see y’all geek out about the scenes with the orcs under Isengard, and the final scene of the tower exploding.
Make react on doctor strange in the mom and stargate
Disney and everyone else needs to stop calling the remake of the lion King live action. Nothing during the whole run time was ever captured on a real camera. It is realistically animated and nothing else.
I love Peter Dinklage but I think he's a little too salty on the subject. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs isn't a movie about a woman and seven other human beings with dwarfism, it's a movie about a woman with seven Fictional beings called dwarves who happen to be short.
Sorry Peter, gotta call you out on this one.
Maybe you ought to respect the opinion of people this actually affects. You don't have to agree with him, but you also don't "gotta call him out".
But realistically if your a dwarf actor this kind of films put u in the spotlight for more work. All he has done is taking jobs away from other dwarfs
@@joechapman8208
^^^^
Always that one person who thinks they're being the "champion" defending someone they are not like, but think they can speak for everyone.
@@joechapman8208 Except it doesnt affect Dinklage in the slightest, he just complained on social media and literally ruined a chance of any other dwarf actor to ever get this role. We respect the opinions of those dwarf actors who were actually affected by this nonsense, the ones who were angry with Dinklage's comment, the ones who actually NEED work to pay their bills, and were more than happy to star in Snow White as a dwarf. Because unlike Dinklage other dwarf actors aren't precious little snowflakes who blow every mention of a word "dwarf" out of propotion, and dont find fictional dwarves in a fairytale offensive.
@@joechapman8208 I appreciate rickitynick4463 defending people like my brother, who played Dopey in runs of Snow White throughout the pacific region.
Dinklage is wrong on this, those roles are a big pay check and a big chance to break into other movies.
Wren, though it didn't flood a city, you forgot the tidal waves in "The Abyss" (1989) Special Edition.
the suspension slamming through the bus *chefs kiss*
Cappuccino Brown and the 7 CGI Creatures
Classic Disney
What's disturbing about Snow White now is no announcement has been made about who is voice acting the dwarves, will they even bother to hire little people for voicing them in a recording studio?
There is no universe in which Gal Gadot is jealous of Rachel Zegler’s beauty.
Not to hark on the other crew members but only when dean does an ad/sponsor segment of some kind is when I watch the whole thing. Dude has got a perfect way to showing off stuff. At least to me. Dude would make a great realtor lol
The bridge platform shakes so violently that all cars and people should be flying away, but luckily they all have magnetic properties that keeps them in contact with with the bridge