I drove my truck exactly the way he talked about in this video and he's correct. Using cruise control does save money. My mpg is around 8.5 to 9 every time I do this.
I've been doing this for years with my car and now that I drive a truck I implemented the same technique and it worked as well. I'm glad he brought this up and you actually tried it for yourself. 👊🏽
Great video! I agree with what you are saying but I get paid by the load and if I drive at 61 mph I probably would lose a load a week. I have a 2020 Cascadia with a DD15. I run 70-75mph and I get 8-8.5 mph (I get less when I run the west coast). I watch my turbo psi vs rpm. If my turbo goes above 20 I back off the accelerator or cruise control.
Same I always ran at 70 in the cascadia dd15 still got 8 to 8.5 mpg. It's that dt12 transmission it's so good for mpg as long as you're in cruise and don't stop very often.
The irony of me watching this while driving down the road at 75 mph in my 389 with 605 on the cummins hauling 47k beer load with avg of 6 .5 mpg trying to cover 320 miles in 4 hrs. Choo choo
In that truck you can also decrease the speed by 5, so if the Jake starts at 5mph above your cruise set speed you do this going down hills wanna go 45mph set cruise to 40mph. You can literally drive this truck with your thumb
Just got my CDL and im about to start my first job at a company that offers substantial quarterly bonuses to drivers in the top 40%, 25%, and 10% of the fleet. I'm definitely paying attention to these videos and will be actively using these methods to earn those bonuses
Brian says he reads all the comments 🙄, let's see if he gets this one. I agree with you fully on your driving style. In the past I was a trainer and I would teach my students the "old man Sunday driving style," it saves fuel and shakes the truck less in team driving. Waiting on a 2022 Cascadia for myself, I normally do 70 mph in company trucks but I want to slow down to 65 or less and these videos encourage me.
@@NickC876 wait till the 1-box craps out ...or u waiting for a sensor for 3weeks 🤣 .... U gonna hate that "new" truck ... Also blowby does not exist if you route the hose to the back of the under cab... U must have been driving a truck with leaky exhaust system (easy fix) ..
@@vroor32 I do agree most likely my older trucks had leaky exhaust but I never noticed any soot marks on the exhaust joints. I didn't try to run the blow by tube behind the cab, though about it and asked but was told repeatedly it's not a good idea so I left it. If the 1 box goes out or I need some sensor for weeks I just take vacation, have been practicing that for over 12 years so far it works for me and my family. I noticed that the dealership fixes the new trucks under warranty faster than old truck where I am paying cash. Normally 3 days for a new truck and about 7 to 10 days for old, that's just my personal experience. I normally plan my repairs and drop the truck off while at home so the dealer is the one calling and telling me the truck is ready, not me calling and stressing.
@@NickC876 I run the blowby (extreme high temp) hose to the back .... Just make sure it's slanted at an angle that way, any oil does not settle. Haven't had a problem with pressure build-up. W.r.t newer trucks, this market is going to be bad for trucks needing work. Lack of sensors/ parts is making trucks sit for weeks. I expect pre-emission trucks to become extremely valuable in next few years
There is another advantage of driving slow, it puts less wear and tear on that vehicle.....over here in Malaysia Im driving a Chinese truck and pulling gross nearly 75tons and my another buddy same year truck with me constantly claiming it's these Chinese junk that constantly breakdown but I rather said the driving method that saves fuel and put less strain on the vehicle....one day of entering into the workshop or services center I would surpass him and I got paid too...so drive slowly and your vehicle do last longer. It's all depends on the application you doing. Stay safe everybody
My cruise control on my suv works the same way however, I normally set it at 20mph and kick it on for those school zones. It also slows me down when I engage it and does it really quick. Great video Brian.
@@wheelburnerexpress you'll get no argument from me. I'm always trying to explain to the drivers that some how get talked into a C.R. England lease purchase, slow down stupid, you think your truck payment is crazy, wait until you see what you spend on fuel. I'm all about fuel economy, I've been driving 57 mph. for many years.
If you do actual real driving calculations time savings for higher speeds usually are fairly negligible. For example, running 60 MPH over a 50 mile stretch of road and running 80 MPH over that same stretch, you will gain a whopping 90 seconds on average. Remember faster driving is not linear. You have other traffic that comes into play at higher speeds causing you to vary speed more often. Then at higher speeds, you will experience higher levels of driver fatigue due to having to be more alert for quicker reaction times and longer stopping distances. I recall a story told me when I was a teenager many years ago and used to drive fast all the time that two drivers started on a 500-mile drive at the same time. One drove the legal posted speed limits and the other drove as fast as he could at speeds up to 100 MPH. The slower driver arrived at the final destination less than fifteen minutes after the guy going all out. The guy driving all out was exhausted and wanted to rest. The other driver went on to have a wonderful meal with his friends. Don't even get me started on the physics of fuel consumption calculated by mass and speed over distance. You will find that it takes far more energy to move the same mass at a higher speed for the same distance. Then factor in inertia as mass at higher speed requires more energy and distance to bring to a stop. A stopping distance differential of 50 meters could be the difference between the life and death of the passengers in the vehicles impacted.
The added miles are only a benefit if you're pressed for time and trying to make it to a stop or 10/34 hr place.. or if you are able to fit another load in, AND it can offset the added fuel cost.
What about idol time…..? Especially in extreme temperatures when must of these companies are to cheap to install APU’s? As a driver, what should we do?
I'm surprised you're only getting 9mpg with that 2.64 rear end. That's made for flat highways . Let's see what you get going across I 80 and 90 loaded at 80k.
So just my experience as a bus driver... Who drives without cruse control???? Your making way to much extra work for yourself. Never knew about it saving fuel because I'm not buying it. But the cruise control saves so much work. I won't even drive a rig without it working.
I'm interested what kind of mpg you get when driving 70mph because with elds, driving 61mph is not all that great. You will loose close to 100 miles a shift driving 61. My goal is to get home a day faster rather then getting 9mpg. Because then your sacrificing home time over few hundred bucks on fuel
At around 68 the mpg starts to take a nose dive. 70mph you'll likely see around 7.5 which is still good and only about a 40 gallon difference on a 2500 mile work week... But, by the end of the year it is 7000 dollars that could of been saved. It's the price I'm willing to pay for my sanity
My last load was from Buda TX to Casa Grande AZ. I averaged over 9.5 MPG for the trip. I am stuck until tomorrow with a load from Phoenix AZ to Saratoga Springs NY. While I was four thousand feet above sea level. I was getting over nine miles to the gallon while still doing 75 Mph this past week.
I know I'm sending this June 22, 2023, but I feel I need to say this. During my load from AZ to Saratoga Springs NY I averaged 9.3 MPG from the 75 Mph sign on the East side of Flagstaff til I got to Amarillo TX, and that's driving the speed limit whether 75 or a reduced limit in a construction zone. In March of this year I deadheaded from Kingman AZ to Spartanburg SC because my dad was put in hospice. I drove 65 Mph or slower the whole way from Kingman back to the house. I averaged 10.55 mpg from Kingman til I was near Henryetta OK with prevailing tailwinds. I still ran 65 or the speed limit back to the SC but with only seeing 9.7 mpg for the rest of the trip. Before delivering in Kingman on the 14th of March I had topped off my tanks in Albuquerque NM on Sunday morning and driven to the Petro in Kingman. On the drive home I topped off again in Grants NM and Hamilton AL. After being home for Dad's funeral etc for two and a half weeks I picked up another load heading to Garden City KS. I didn't hit a fuel stop until I got to Russellville AR.
I drive in Denmark. I'm usually getting between 9.9 to 10.3 MPG, but I'm ofcourse running at lower speeds than you do in USA. Loads are usually around 17 tons. The comment about using the cruise control to accelerate the truck onto a highway is absolutely correct. The computer knows how to modulate the engine load and shifting to most efficiently accelerate you up to the set speed. When you need to focus on precision and safety, use the gas pedal. When you need to get moving or cruise, use the computer.
Hi I run a Scania in 🇬🇧 it has active Cruze control which means it has a mapping of all the hills and decents Build in to the truck once on the highway it does it all for you it even lets off the gas before the top of the hill and costs then on the decent it automatically engages the engine brake and it saves a lot of Fule it’s doing 9 mpg it’s a 16 litre v8 730 bhp
I run 63 mph and never over. No idling. Cruise does help. Tire pressure is critical. Very light braking. Pick the lightest loads possible but that is not always what happens. I hit best fuel savings in the fleet I signed onto several times doing this.
All of these guys crowing about the money they're making at 75 and catching that mythical Friday load home should watch ET's rich driver poor driver part 1,2, and 3.
In my 2019 Kenworth t680 at these speeds I average 7.4 mpg. Which is 1.5 less bet I gain 400 to 500 miles more per week paying me around an extra 1000 to 1500 dollars a week. I am not convinced that going 61 mph saves money it the long run, unless the load you are hauling has more time to deliver than you need, then obviously you should use this technique. Time is money this is also a factor.
I've got a 2020 cascadia with a 10spd Eaton. It has a lifetime average fuel mileage of 8.3mpg. Only issue ive had with it is the damn injector pass thru seals
They must have really improved the cruise, because when I drove a 2016 FL, I was able to beat it by a couple tenths in my mpg. On moderate or large hills, I would gently tilt onto the throttle at the bottom, just cracking the throttle and keeping speed up. By getting a *bit* more speed and reducing the loss, I would carry speed/momentum further up the hill and could wait longer for full throttle. The cruise would wait a fair bit longer, then hammer the throttle to full all the way up. On gentle hills or nearly flat, cruise wins all the way.
These are good numbers, but this only applies if you're the one paying for fuel. Believe it or not, I tried to get my boss more involved with saving fuel, he wasn't all that interested. I've been trying all the things Brian talked about, turns out I was only hurting my paycheck.
Here is the other side of that coin. I have the same setup but my truck is set for 75MPH. I use the cruise control but not like he stated. Anyway I'm getting 7mpg average. So doing the math if we both run 3000 miles and average $3 per gallon he's saving $285 weekly or $13,680 running 48weeks. Old habits are hard to break and I'm too stubborn to change but to all you guys starting out do it his way and put that extra money in your pocket.
It depends on your situation. I get between 5.5 and 6.5mpg. No truck payments. Oil changes are more expensive, def is another problem, a $3,000 payment every month. Yes I know mpg is one big expense but what about the rest. That is what works for me rightnow.
But wait, i'm pretty sure def consumption is in accordance with diesel consumption. So, the less diesel you burn, the less def you need. In addition, the less diesel you burn, the less you afterthreatment system is clogged.
My experience with a 2022 DD15 is similar. The dashboard MPG readout always rounds up. But this Detroit is very accurate on fuel usage. In the first 30,000 miles, actual gallons used it’s reading within 1 gallon of what’s actually gone in the tank. A friend’s 2020 Volvo is off by at least 10%. He’s putting in more than it says.
@@memyself7419 he parks it in a shop when home and it’s been consistently of by 10% for over 2 years. It’s not fuel theft. Do you have personal experience with a newer Volvo to suggest something is amiss? He’s taken it up with the dealer to no resolution. I’m told Detroit is the only engine manufacturer that has an accurate reading because it’s the only one that includes idling time. I can’t say one way or another.
On my 2011 Volvo D13 how I drove the truck would make a difference in how close the actual fuel vs what the computer thought fuel should be. If I feather footed around 20 psi boost the actual fuel taken would be about 1 - 2% less than the truck thought it should be. If I drove more "normally" actual fuel taken would be 3 - 7 % more than the truck thought it should be.
It varies from truck to truck, but you just want your highest gear at the lowest RPM that you can consistently hold without having to downshift for small hills. On Cascadias geared for fuel efficiency this is generally going to be 58 to 62mph, but if you're running really light loads and relatively flat terrain you can put it even lower without much difficulty.
Good vid, I have the same trick just a year older. Iv been getting 7.1 to 8.0 mpg. After this video I'll try your set up and see if it improves my fuel efficiency.
It's all physics. Drag, or the air resistance from trying to push a huge box down the road, increases with the square of the velocity. So it takes a lot more energy to maintain 70 mph than it takes to maintain 65 or 61 mph. Aerodynamic devices can help a bit, however this works only if you own the trailer you are hauling or somehow negotiate drop and hooks only with trailers that have these devices. Drivetrain losses increase with increased rpm and increased speed. Engine frictional losses are higher at higher rpm, and faster tires produce more heat even though the actual rolling resistance is unchanged by speed. That frictional heat from the engine all the way to the tires is nothing more than wasted engine power. We burned fuel to make horsepower to make heat. In general, once you get beyond the sweet spot for the engine's rpm the faster you go, the more fuel you will burn to cover the same distance. However, going too slow can also harm fuel economy if you are either lugging the engine or running at too high rpms in lower gears, which you covered well talking about accelerating. Then there is stop-and-go traffic, which absolutely kills fuel economy.
@@brahadeeshsuresh500 The manufacturer will typically tell you where you should be keeping the rpm for maximum engine efficiency. I know my tractor has a green band for engine rpm for this. If you have extra gears to keep it there then you only need to worry about all of the other factors (drag due to air resistance, frictional losses from tires, traffic, etc.). Most modern tractors have some sort of fuel economy display, so even if you are not calculating all of the other factors you could run for a couple hundred miles on level ground at one speed and compare to a similar distance at another speed (presuming the same loading).
I drive a 2022 freight cas governed at 75mph. In the beginning I’d fly passed most truckers at 75 wondering why they are going to slow. Wasn’t until a week or 2 before I got extremely upset with fuel efficiency. Fast forward a bit I tested out 65-70range with nonstop cruise control and I went from 5.7mpg average across 5k miles to about 8.2mpg. With 190g tanks, that 5mph difference saved you like $600 in fuel. Some extra info; I’m otr 4 weeks in all 48. So that includes all types of roads and hills. I’ll never drive 75mph or without cruise control again. ALSO!! Use eCoast!!! For the love of your wallet, it’s game changer!
Yeah so far you're beating me. I'm pretty certain you've got an apu on that truck, and that's definitely an advantage over my Kenworth T680 NG 2022. 7.9 average currently in the last three weeks going 65-70 (depending on the load and location). Idling at night when I'm back in Texas or Florida, yeah it doesn't help. Trying to get the boss to mount an apu or diesel powered generator or something, it's got all that room on the frame on both sides, and it'll pay for itself within a year.
Hunter, check out another video from Ronan at ET on their Fuel Mileage Challenge. In it, Ronan shows what 20 drivers who accepted the challenge got for fuel economy over a one month period (Aug 2021). One driver who finished in the bottom 4 (17th) in overall mileage also finished top 4 in idle time (approx 3.3% of engine running). Running the prime mover might not make as big a difference as some think. That said, even using 1 gal/hour on your prime mover at idle is 10 gal. per day, which at current prices you're correct, the APU that burns 1 gal every 10 hours will pay for itself in a year. In case you're wondering and haven't yet checked it out, the top driver won $2500 Canadian, and the next driver won $1000 Canadian. Try slowing down a bit to about 61-62 mph and I think you'll come closer to Brian's overall 8.9 mpg.
I like getting good fuel mileage, and I usually rank near the top of the fleet, but the IPM cruise feature on these Cascadias is the most hateful thing ever !!
"hateful?" that's colorful. I like it. please elaborate. In my experience all these "intelligent" systems they're implementing serve only to make a driver's job more tedious. Not only do you have to be mindful of traffic, the bulk and dimension of the vehicle, terrain, "traffic control devices" and a host of other issues, now you have to anticipate the actions of these automatic systems they're building in such as IPM. I see where it comes from though. The majority of the drivers large trucking companies recruit aren't skilled machine operators and don't know how to shift a manual transmission, operate the throttle for efficiency, be easy with braking, etc. It REALLY makes me ill though that ET Transport talks to their audience like we're all unskilled idiots. Ronan needs to shut his stupid mouth and address the issue with HIS unskilled workers - and probably his recruiting department too.
The wide range of speed that IPM allows on a cruise setting, is the problem. With a 60 mph setting , mine was ranging anywhere from 50 to 68 mph , without making an attempt to correct the speed. In places with a low speed limit, and a lot of hills ( California is the worst) this can cause problems, as far as potentially getting a huge ticket. Having said that , mine was set so the plus minus numbers were +5 / -4 , which was where I was getting the above variations in speed. A few months ago it was adjusted , with settings of +2/ -2 , and now is much better. I've also been getting better fuel mileage with the current narrower parameters on that setting
The problem here is your companies locking you out of your options. You are supposed to be able to change the +/- settings on the fly with the little option button on the bottom right of the cruise control buttons.
I don't get it. I'm trucking in Europe. If I drive 80km/h truck cosume 29-30 liters per 100 km and I can drive in 10 hours about 800 km. But if I drive 90 km/h truck consume 33 liters but I will drive 900 km that day. So what would I do if I would drive slow, save fuel but drive less km?? In that case I will only waste time. These numbers are only for easy calculation because in Europe we drive max 9 hours per day, and it is allowed 10 only 2 times per week
I'm getting 9.1 kw t680 2022 cruse set 71 12 speed auto cummins x15 I set cruse to 71 and keep it on the floor and I manually drop it in 11 BEFORE I go uphill. Shift at 12 and 16 hundred rpm. In the hills it uses more however it is not as long ... I'm telling you fast approaching the hill is about the same efficiency in fuel HOWEVER I am going 675 to 725 miles daily I'm getting 800 dollar mileage bonus every month
Wait till the opposed piston achates they will get twice that!! I saw 2.7l f150 get 42mpg avg on diesel instead of 24 on ram 3.0l diesel!! Thats over 75 percent!! Thats like getting close to 17 to 20 mpg!!! While towing a trailer!!!!
My AKA is " Truckers Coach " can I work for your company and get a special deal ? Please let me know right away because my special deal with the Comies over at GP Transco is falling apart.
61mph or 75mph? It's about time or money, which is more important to you? Let's do the math. @61 u can do 630 miles a day, @75 can do 750 miles. Will take @61 two hours more to cover 750 miles than @75. Question is how much fuel do each burn to travel 750 miles. I don't have the figure but an educated guess will do, @61 get 8 miles per gallon and @75 get 6.5 miles per gallon. So 750/8 burn through 94 gallons of fuel and 750/6.5 burn 115 gallons. Difference of 21 gallons saving for @ 61. Cost per gallon is approximately $3.50 x 21gallons = $73.5 in saving. Don't forget it take two hours longer to travel 750 miles for @61, so 73.5/2 hrs. Is getting paid $36.75/ hour worth the time behind the wheel? For owner operators, probably not, that's why they zipping by me @75 or more
I'm a little confused about what my dealership is telling me. I'm told with the paccar engine 12 speed auto 264 rears I'll be at 1100 rpm at 70. I'm wondering if the paccar 12 speed has a double over drive or is my dealership wrong. And I hate people that don't use cruise. I constantly have to race them. Half way by and the race begins.
I tried out the lease program at RTI using this same concept and consistently got 9mpg minimum and more like 10mpg driving slow and shutting down at the fuel pump with a manual transmission 2020 Cascadia DD15. I'm going to be getting into a Volvo D13 Ishift with some easier work doing the same thing. I am hoping to break 10mpg.
Hey Brian I love watching this challenge videos the most.I would like to add that I drive 2019 Cascadia and it has intelligence power management IPM that makes an amazing job and helps to get fuel mileage up to 9mpg. But not all the cruise controls are that smart since they don’t have IPM. I have driven a 2019 Volvo and that particular truck was not good with cruise control at all. I was making better without it. Here is why; A regular cruise control using much more power while climbing up hill to be able to catch the speed that driver asking to. But IPM technology understands about the hills and letting truck to slow down a little bit (-4mph), costing down hills also it’s letting truck to get faster(+5mph).
At the end of the video Russian plates on the truck)) Ronan you need to promote Brian's channel! If you not do this, I will move to Canada from Russia soon and do it by myself on your channel! :D
Hi countryman! There is a lot of footage with Russian trucks on ET's videos and I'm curious if Mr.Ronen has some relation to that part of the world. (Although i realize that it's more easy to use it, cuz you barely have to comply with copyrights 😄)
I just recently got assigned a 21 Cascadia in my first gig and my first week was 8.6mpg. I cruise at 63 and im kind of curious to see is 61 makes a big difference. Though I don't use cruise control on ramps to get up to speed so im very curious to see the effect on my mpg if I try that change this week. I feel like it accelerates more aggressively than I do but I haven't thought about gear shift points. Really good video!
Or you can buy a new 389 and sell it for +100k on the open market after 4 years. And when you get that 100k put it towards your next 389. Now you defeated the fuel milage costs with a lower payment. And a much bigger trade in. Particularly on a four year cycle. I quit listening to this guy once he said the truck optimizes at 61mph. Why bother then? Aerodynamics only come into play at above 65mph. The only way these aerodynamic trucks are worth anything is on a lease deal. And bought in number. Where they don't keep them. So yeah big companies set up their business model on aerodynamic trucks. Because that's their biggest varible. Peterbilt 359/379/389 has been a recipe for success for the singular O/O for a long time.
@@nirlambghumman7398 You mean higher rear end ratio? Higher gear lower RPM. You can if you drive slow. Aerodynamics don't come into play until you are past 65mph. Once past 65mph. It's a brick going down the road. It doesn't matter much. Peterbilt 389's and Kenworth W900's are a thing of the past. EPA's stupid fuel mandates. I'm a fan of the wider cabs and better interiors anyway. So I'm not to terribly upset.
@@DutchK75 No I mean let’s say you have a 389 with a 3.73 or 3.91 or 4.11 rear end ratio it won’t have good fuel economy but if you a 3.07, 3.08 or a 2.93 rear end ratio then you will have decent fuel economy. I have a friend who a 389 flattop sleeper with a Paccar engine, a 10 speed manual overdrive transmission and a 3.08 rear end ratio and he gets fuel economy in the 7’s
@@nirlambghumman7398 3.08 is a HIGHER gear ratio than like 3.73. But yes. You'll get better fuel economy with gear sets like 3.08. I'm in a 2022 579. It's getting around 8.8mpg with 3.08's and a 13spd. But I drive 68mph mostly.
My tip... Buy an electric blanket, and put it under you in marginally cold temperature and put a decent blanket above you. It traps the heat in with very little drain of the batteries. At maximum output it burns 150 w an hour and I set it at 3 out of 10. I've had to use the APU a whole lot less, which does burn diesel.
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Thanks for the response! I never thought about the APU bunk heater burning diesel when I was only running the heat or the cooling.... until I did yard duty for 4 days in a row not driving at all...just staying warm.. I saw the fuel gauge drop significantly, and didn't drive a mile... and it dawned on me.... That's one way I was losing MPGs. I also use those silver windshield sun reflectors to avoid having to run bunk cooling as much... which again does burn diesel...if I'm correct.. My company has a standard of at least 8.31 miles per gallon average.
I’m not a truck drive, my dad is, but I just enjoy watching videos and learning about the industry. I love watching Brian become a true believer in the newer trucks. I remember watching his why he bought his Kenworth video. Now I’m watching him give credit where credit, where credit is do, to Cascadia. Great video man, enjoy seeing you and your operations manager work together to maximize your profit.
My 2019 was running the same powertrain but turned down to 400hp and I was getting 9.5mpg out of it. Mostly the same aero package as yours but I had the AeroX bumper and Michelin super singles without the wheel covers running about 58mph.
9 mpg seem to me really good but I'm curious as to what kind of terrain and average weight you typically haul?! I'm typically between 45k lbs to 60k pounds. I'm a big cruise control user and I don't get much better than 7 mpg with a rig that's the same as ET's Cascadia. Though I am in hills que a bit.
my company 2024 dd15 with same specs cruise slows down before the hills, that is the opposite of efficient. I can beat any cruise with my foot, it only makes sense on flatter ground. im so good i can run my foot off the sound of the turbo slowing down up hills at 8mpg averaging 8.2 in the winter, with winds, and no cover in open flat lands and yeah at about 61. summer 9.2. when it get real cold its gonna be impossible to get 8 in MN/WI/IA/NE. get me in the 94/90 corridor and 9 is easy. catch me out in IA and southern MN cross/headwinds I was pulling empty getting 6-7 at 60mph.
I don't think the cruise is as efficient in a 579 Pete while accelerating. The computer gives it more throttle to get up to speed sooner than necessary. If I'm not impeding traffic, I accelerate like a turtle with my foot. I stay off the cruise until I'm up to speed then run 62-64 as long as I have enough time. Getting 9.0 mpg, measured over 310,000 miles hauling mostly reefer. But this is an interesting experiment I'm going to try. Maybe I'm wrong that my foot and brain are doing better than the computer can. I'll try using cruise at all times over the next 4 weeks and share the results.
Hello my name is Andrey and I’m trying to figure out what is the sweet spot for my 2016 Kenwoth T680 15L Cummins 500 horsepower Drives 2.64 10 speed Eaton Fuller advantage transmission. On RPM gauge I have two green lights (1200-1400RPM) which I believe indicates sweet spot but I don’t know how accurate is it. To keep it in that sweet spot I need to drive in 9th gear 57mph or 10th 67mph 🤷🏽 When I drive 61 mph my rpm is at 1060 kinda low feels like the engine is working on their stress.
@@nashblue1855 definitely could save time, but can eat up a lot more fuel depending on how the truck is geared, and how much weight you have! I would love to be able to run 70-75 MPH but so far I’ve never had an issue making timely deliveries.
Your math is not adding up, you are driving about 100 miles less than a person with 71 mph speed. So, if your load is paying $3 per mile, you are losing about $200 per day. In trucking, fuel is not not scarce, your time is (eld), use it wisely…
At the truck stops I here from drivers with the new trucks... im doing 75 to 80 mph and my mpg suck 5 to 6 mph... I usually laugh at them ... my series 60 at62 mph I get 7.1
had someone claim this on another post. "my truck gets 7.5 mpg and does at 55 65 or 75 mph". lmao he claim he gets the same milage at 55 as 75... how do thee people exist? lmao he told me math was bs when i pointed out the nonsense.
You don't even have proper gallons in Murica lol. It's a short gallon. I didn't think the Republic would be using Mercedes engines with a different badge on. What happened to MAGA?
That is awesome video and it is true. My question is however.... is it worth it ? If I go 70mph this allows me to complete an extra 90 miles per day on a 10 hour day. This is 540 in 6 days. An extra 1400$ a week in pay. Thank you for your video. Great information, and I will use it if my load has extra time for delivery.
freightliner aka break your back ride comfort is horrible compare to pete kenvorth or volvo even internatinal only good thing is mpg and turning radios
61 mph wears out your clock and yourself and creates traffic. No thanks. At the end of the month that 1k you saved in fuel are miles lost where you could have booked another load and made a couple more grand.
I drove my truck exactly the way he talked about in this video and he's correct. Using cruise control does save money. My mpg is around 8.5 to 9 every time I do this.
I've been doing this for years with my car and now that I drive a truck I implemented the same technique and it worked as well. I'm glad he brought this up and you actually tried it for yourself. 👊🏽
Yeah I found that same thing gained a mile pre gallon
I do the same but I run at 58 mph and I average 9.5-9.7
I can't do that driving a w900 but I can get about 7 mpg with it taking it easy and going slow
@@Feistygoat1 60 mph is way too fast because you burn fuel just to fight the drag
Great video! I agree with what you are saying but I get paid by the load and if I drive at 61 mph I probably would lose a load a week. I have a 2020 Cascadia with a DD15. I run 70-75mph and I get 8-8.5 mph (I get less when I run the west coast). I watch my turbo psi vs rpm. If my turbo goes above 20 I back off the accelerator or cruise control.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing Ricky!
Wow that’s awesome mpg at those speeds!!
What's the setup on your truck? Gears and tires?
Same I always ran at 70 in the cascadia dd15 still got 8 to 8.5 mpg. It's that dt12 transmission it's so good for mpg as long as you're in cruise and don't stop very often.
I’ve been on top of my tire pressures, and they can have a surprising impact on mpg.
The irony of me watching this while driving down the road at 75 mph in my 389 with 605 on the cummins hauling 47k beer load with avg of 6 .5 mpg trying to cover 320 miles in 4 hrs. Choo choo
lol man hauling beer? cheap ass freight. i hope you pulling a refer, nothing worst than seeing a nice 389 pulling a dry van 😂😂😂🤡🤡
Lol
Nice bs)))
In that truck you can also decrease the speed by 5, so if the Jake starts at 5mph above your cruise set speed you do this going down hills wanna go 45mph set cruise to 40mph. You can literally drive this truck with your thumb
Just got my CDL and im about to start my first job at a company that offers substantial quarterly bonuses to drivers in the top 40%, 25%, and 10% of the fleet. I'm definitely paying attention to these videos and will be actively using these methods to earn those bonuses
Technology is great huh brian
Brian says he reads all the comments 🙄, let's see if he gets this one.
I agree with you fully on your driving style. In the past I was a trainer and I would teach my students the "old man Sunday driving style," it saves fuel and shakes the truck less in team driving.
Waiting on a 2022 Cascadia for myself, I normally do 70 mph in company trucks but I want to slow down to 65 or less and these videos encourage me.
@@NickC876 wait till the 1-box craps out ...or u waiting for a sensor for 3weeks 🤣 .... U gonna hate that "new" truck ...
Also blowby does not exist if you route the hose to the back of the under cab... U must have been driving a truck with leaky exhaust system (easy fix) ..
@@vroor32 I do agree most likely my older trucks had leaky exhaust but I never noticed any soot marks on the exhaust joints. I didn't try to run the blow by tube behind the cab, though about it and asked but was told repeatedly it's not a good idea so I left it.
If the 1 box goes out or I need some sensor for weeks I just take vacation, have been practicing that for over 12 years so far it works for me and my family. I noticed that the dealership fixes the new trucks under warranty faster than old truck where I am paying cash. Normally 3 days for a new truck and about 7 to 10 days for old, that's just my personal experience. I normally plan my repairs and drop the truck off while at home so the dealer is the one calling and telling me the truck is ready, not me calling and stressing.
@@NickC876 I run the blowby (extreme high temp) hose to the back .... Just make sure it's slanted at an angle that way, any oil does not settle. Haven't had a problem with pressure build-up.
W.r.t newer trucks, this market is going to be bad for trucks needing work. Lack of sensors/ parts is making trucks sit for weeks. I expect pre-emission trucks to become extremely valuable in next few years
There is another advantage of driving slow, it puts less wear and tear on that vehicle.....over here in Malaysia Im driving a Chinese truck and pulling gross nearly 75tons and my another buddy same year truck with me constantly claiming it's these Chinese junk that constantly breakdown but I rather said the driving method that saves fuel and put less strain on the vehicle....one day of entering into the workshop or services center I would surpass him and I got paid too...so drive slowly and your vehicle do last longer. It's all depends on the application you doing. Stay safe everybody
@Thomas B yes 75tons some even more..Chinese do make trucks that can haul them but reliability is out of the question lol..
Meanwhile there me company driver, I see a big hill and heavy load I pin the throttle 😅
My cruise control on my suv works the same way however, I normally set it at 20mph and kick it on for those school zones. It also slows me down when I engage it and does it really quick. Great video Brian.
Thanks Rob, we appreciate your feedback!
Man.. he's giving an priceless experience is for free. Don't forget to give it a like.
Well if an old dawg like Brian can learn new tricks, then I can give it a try.
@@wheelburnerexpress you'll get no argument from me. I'm always trying to explain to the drivers that some how get talked into a C.R. England lease purchase, slow down stupid, you think your truck payment is crazy, wait until you see what you spend on fuel. I'm all about fuel economy, I've been driving 57 mph. for many years.
I like saving money on fuel and use cruise in the 80% range. But I aint running 61mph. I like to run 725-750 miles per day.
Brian were you the winner of the mpg challenge? 8.9 was the winning number. :)
If you do actual real driving calculations time savings for higher speeds usually are fairly negligible. For example, running 60 MPH over a 50 mile stretch of road and running 80 MPH over that same stretch, you will gain a whopping 90 seconds on average. Remember faster driving is not linear. You have other traffic that comes into play at higher speeds causing you to vary speed more often. Then at higher speeds, you will experience higher levels of driver fatigue due to having to be more alert for quicker reaction times and longer stopping distances. I recall a story told me when I was a teenager many years ago and used to drive fast all the time that two drivers started on a 500-mile drive at the same time. One drove the legal posted speed limits and the other drove as fast as he could at speeds up to 100 MPH. The slower driver arrived at the final destination less than fifteen minutes after the guy going all out. The guy driving all out was exhausted and wanted to rest. The other driver went on to have a wonderful meal with his friends.
Don't even get me started on the physics of fuel consumption calculated by mass and speed over distance. You will find that it takes far more energy to move the same mass at a higher speed for the same distance. Then factor in inertia as mass at higher speed requires more energy and distance to bring to a stop. A stopping distance differential of 50 meters could be the difference between the life and death of the passengers in the vehicles impacted.
60 mph driving 11 hours per day = 660 miles
65 mph driving 11 hours per day = 715 miles
55 mile difference per day, in 7 days = 385 miles
Well said.
What a great comment. Very informative! Thanks for sharing Jim!
The added miles are only a benefit if you're pressed for time and trying to make it to a stop or 10/34 hr place.. or if you are able to fit another load in, AND it can offset the added fuel cost.
Awesome comment! Not many people factor this in
What about idol time…..? Especially in extreme temperatures when must of these companies are to cheap to install APU’s? As a driver, what should we do?
8.9 mpg is mind blowing to me, back in the '90s if I was getting 6.3 I felt like I was driving a Prius and should be company driver of the year!
I'm surprised you're only getting 9mpg with that 2.64 rear end. That's made for flat highways . Let's see what you get going across I 80 and 90 loaded at 80k.
Very informative and entertaining video, this guy should have his own YT channel.
I got here from his channel
So just my experience as a bus driver... Who drives without cruse control???? Your making way to much extra work for yourself. Never knew about it saving fuel because I'm not buying it. But the cruise control saves so much work. I won't even drive a rig without it working.
I'm interested what kind of mpg you get when driving 70mph because with elds, driving 61mph is not all that great. You will loose close to 100 miles a shift driving 61. My goal is to get home a day faster rather then getting 9mpg. Because then your sacrificing home time over few hundred bucks on fuel
8.3 at 68
8.2 at 70mph average. Even better when you have light loads.
At around 68 the mpg starts to take a nose dive. 70mph you'll likely see around 7.5 which is still good and only about a 40 gallon difference on a 2500 mile work week... But, by the end of the year it is 7000 dollars that could of been saved. It's the price I'm willing to pay for my sanity
Thanks for the tip on using the cruise control to merge.
I have a 19, same truck. I use cruise A LOT as well. At 75mph I average 8.1mpg. Better than my 4.5mpg Prostar..... I'm not complaining
My last load was from Buda TX to Casa Grande AZ. I averaged over 9.5 MPG for the trip. I am stuck until tomorrow with a load from Phoenix AZ to Saratoga Springs NY. While I was four thousand feet above sea level. I was getting over nine miles to the gallon while still doing 75 Mph this past week.
How many mountains did you climb?
Saratoga Springs, NY. Don't want you to get lost.
@@jdm1039Ha! It is April 4 2023 and I just read that. Thanks for the correction.
I know I'm sending this June 22, 2023, but I feel I need to say this. During my load from AZ to Saratoga Springs NY I averaged 9.3 MPG from the 75 Mph sign on the East side of Flagstaff til I got to Amarillo TX, and that's driving the speed limit whether 75 or a reduced limit in a construction zone. In March of this year I deadheaded from Kingman AZ to Spartanburg SC because my dad was put in hospice. I drove 65 Mph or slower the whole way from Kingman back to the house. I averaged 10.55 mpg from Kingman til I was near Henryetta OK with prevailing tailwinds. I still ran 65 or the speed limit back to the SC but with only seeing 9.7 mpg for the rest of the trip. Before delivering in Kingman on the 14th of March I had topped off my tanks in Albuquerque NM on Sunday morning and driven to the Petro in Kingman. On the drive home I topped off again in Grants NM and Hamilton AL. After being home for Dad's funeral etc for two and a half weeks I picked up another load heading to Garden City KS. I didn't hit a fuel stop until I got to Russellville AR.
Brian is like a crazy uncle who you can't help but love.... I love his videos.
Slowly but surely he's being brought into the 21st century.
Haha! We’re glad you like our content. He sure is the best crazy uncle!
Good video Brian!!
Can I ask what kind of terrain you're running on?
I drive a2019 cascadia configured the same way. Basically do the samev as you for cruise at 61. I stay in the low 9s most of the time
I drive in Denmark. I'm usually getting between 9.9 to 10.3 MPG, but I'm ofcourse running at lower speeds than you do in USA. Loads are usually around 17 tons.
The comment about using the cruise control to accelerate the truck onto a highway is absolutely correct. The computer knows how to modulate the engine load and shifting to most efficiently accelerate you up to the set speed. When you need to focus on precision and safety, use the gas pedal. When you need to get moving or cruise, use the computer.
What is the average weight of the loads you haul?
Hi I run a Scania in 🇬🇧 it has active Cruze control which means it has a mapping of all the hills and decents
Build in to the truck once on the highway it does it all for you it even lets off the gas before the top of the hill and costs then on the decent it automatically engages the engine brake and it saves a lot of Fule it’s doing 9 mpg it’s a 16 litre v8 730 bhp
I run 63 mph and never over. No idling. Cruise does help. Tire pressure is critical. Very light braking. Pick the lightest loads possible but that is not always what happens. I hit best fuel savings in the fleet I signed onto several times doing this.
Must suck to be governed at 59mph.
Lmao.
All of these guys crowing about the money they're making at 75 and catching that mythical Friday load home should watch ET's rich driver poor driver part 1,2, and 3.
hey Brian i saw you on tuesday sep 14 on 401 close to 194 or something
i said hi with my horn 🎺🎺🎺
but you didn’t see me lol
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Wonder how much would you average going 65-70mph?
In my 2019 Kenworth t680 at these speeds I average 7.4 mpg. Which is 1.5 less bet I gain 400 to 500 miles more per week paying me around an extra 1000 to 1500 dollars a week. I am not convinced that going 61 mph saves money it the long run, unless the load you are hauling has more time to deliver than you need, then obviously you should use this technique. Time is money this is also a factor.
I got a 2022 freightshaker I run 65mph no cruise control have put 30k on the truck so far the dash says I’m getting 9.5 avg mpg
I've got a 2020 cascadia with a 10spd Eaton. It has a lifetime average fuel mileage of 8.3mpg. Only issue ive had with it is the damn injector pass thru seals
They must have really improved the cruise, because when I drove a 2016 FL, I was able to beat it by a couple tenths in my mpg. On moderate or large hills, I would gently tilt onto the throttle at the bottom, just cracking the throttle and keeping speed up. By getting a *bit* more speed and reducing the loss, I would carry speed/momentum further up the hill and could wait longer for full throttle. The cruise would wait a fair bit longer, then hammer the throttle to full all the way up.
On gentle hills or nearly flat, cruise wins all the way.
These are good numbers, but this only applies if you're the one paying for fuel. Believe it or not, I tried to get my boss more involved with saving fuel, he wasn't all that interested. I've been trying all the things Brian talked about, turns out I was only hurting my paycheck.
Here is the other side of that coin.
I have the same setup but my truck is set for 75MPH. I use the cruise control but not like he stated. Anyway I'm getting 7mpg average. So doing the math if we both run 3000 miles and average $3 per gallon he's saving $285 weekly or $13,680 running 48weeks.
Old habits are hard to break and I'm too stubborn to change but to all you guys starting out do it his way and put that extra money in your pocket.
Jct truck 2021 frightliner ev 285 dd15 dt12 overdrive i can go 70mph getting 7.6 mpg
It depends on your situation. I get between 5.5 and 6.5mpg. No truck payments. Oil changes are more expensive, def is another problem, a $3,000 payment every month. Yes I know mpg is one big expense but what about the rest.
That is what works for me rightnow.
But wait, i'm pretty sure def consumption is in accordance with diesel consumption. So, the less diesel you burn, the less def you need. In addition, the less diesel you burn, the less you afterthreatment system is clogged.
do the math over a 12-24 month time. the payment will equal to the extra fuel consumption, repairs, and down time.
I don’t know if we talk about same truck and engine. That’s impossible? Maybe power only.
My experience with a 2022 DD15 is similar. The dashboard MPG readout always rounds up. But this Detroit is very accurate on fuel usage. In the first 30,000 miles, actual gallons used it’s reading within 1 gallon of what’s actually gone in the tank.
A friend’s 2020 Volvo is off by at least 10%. He’s putting in more than it says.
10% off is way too much. I am thinking fuel theft somewhere.
@@memyself7419 he parks it in a shop when home and it’s been consistently of by 10% for over 2 years. It’s not fuel theft.
Do you have personal experience with a newer Volvo to suggest something is amiss?
He’s taken it up with the dealer to no resolution.
I’m told Detroit is the only engine manufacturer that has an accurate reading because it’s the only one that includes idling time. I can’t say one way or another.
On my 2011 Volvo D13 how I drove the truck would make a difference in how close the actual fuel vs what the computer thought fuel should be. If I feather footed around 20 psi boost the actual fuel taken would be about 1 - 2% less than the truck thought it should be. If I drove more "normally" actual fuel taken would be 3 - 7 % more than the truck thought it should be.
How did you determine the sweet spot of 61, I use 60 but m open to change, please explain.
It varies from truck to truck, but you just want your highest gear at the lowest RPM that you can consistently hold without having to downshift for small hills. On Cascadias geared for fuel efficiency this is generally going to be 58 to 62mph, but if you're running really light loads and relatively flat terrain you can put it even lower without much difficulty.
Good vid, I have the same trick just a year older. Iv been getting 7.1 to 8.0 mpg. After this video I'll try your set up and see if it improves my fuel efficiency.
Thanks Aleina. Let us know how that goes for you!
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-Newsyou guys looking for more O/O’s outta Chicago 😅
It's all physics. Drag, or the air resistance from trying to push a huge box down the road, increases with the square of the velocity. So it takes a lot more energy to maintain 70 mph than it takes to maintain 65 or 61 mph. Aerodynamic devices can help a bit, however this works only if you own the trailer you are hauling or somehow negotiate drop and hooks only with trailers that have these devices. Drivetrain losses increase with increased rpm and increased speed. Engine frictional losses are higher at higher rpm, and faster tires produce more heat even though the actual rolling resistance is unchanged by speed. That frictional heat from the engine all the way to the tires is nothing more than wasted engine power. We burned fuel to make horsepower to make heat. In general, once you get beyond the sweet spot for the engine's rpm the faster you go, the more fuel you will burn to cover the same distance. However, going too slow can also harm fuel economy if you are either lugging the engine or running at too high rpms in lower gears, which you covered well talking about accelerating. Then there is stop-and-go traffic, which absolutely kills fuel economy.
How do you calculate this sweet-spot?
@@brahadeeshsuresh500 The manufacturer will typically tell you where you should be keeping the rpm for maximum engine efficiency. I know my tractor has a green band for engine rpm for this. If you have extra gears to keep it there then you only need to worry about all of the other factors (drag due to air resistance, frictional losses from tires, traffic, etc.). Most modern tractors have some sort of fuel economy display, so even if you are not calculating all of the other factors you could run for a couple hundred miles on level ground at one speed and compare to a similar distance at another speed (presuming the same loading).
I drive a 2022 freight cas governed at 75mph. In the beginning I’d fly passed most truckers at 75 wondering why they are going to slow. Wasn’t until a week or 2 before I got extremely upset with fuel efficiency. Fast forward a bit I tested out 65-70range with nonstop cruise control and I went from 5.7mpg average across 5k miles to about 8.2mpg. With 190g tanks, that 5mph difference saved you like $600 in fuel. Some extra info; I’m otr 4 weeks in all 48. So that includes all types of roads and hills. I’ll never drive 75mph or without cruise control again. ALSO!! Use eCoast!!! For the love of your wallet, it’s game changer!
Yeah so far you're beating me. I'm pretty certain you've got an apu on that truck, and that's definitely an advantage over my Kenworth T680 NG 2022. 7.9 average currently in the last three weeks going 65-70 (depending on the load and location). Idling at night when I'm back in Texas or Florida, yeah it doesn't help. Trying to get the boss to mount an apu or diesel powered generator or something, it's got all that room on the frame on both sides, and it'll pay for itself within a year.
Hunter, check out another video from Ronan at ET on their Fuel Mileage Challenge. In it, Ronan shows what 20 drivers who accepted the challenge got for fuel economy over a one month period (Aug 2021). One driver who finished in the bottom 4 (17th) in overall mileage also finished top 4 in idle time (approx 3.3% of engine running). Running the prime mover might not make as big a difference as some think. That said, even using 1 gal/hour on your prime mover at idle is 10 gal. per day, which at current prices you're correct, the APU that burns 1 gal every 10 hours will pay for itself in a year.
In case you're wondering and haven't yet checked it out, the top driver won $2500 Canadian, and the next driver won $1000 Canadian.
Try slowing down a bit to about 61-62 mph and I think you'll come closer to Brian's overall 8.9 mpg.
I like getting good fuel mileage, and I usually rank near the top of the fleet, but the IPM cruise feature on these Cascadias is the most hateful thing ever !!
"hateful?" that's colorful. I like it. please elaborate. In my experience all these "intelligent" systems they're implementing serve only to make a driver's job more tedious. Not only do you have to be mindful of traffic, the bulk and dimension of the vehicle, terrain, "traffic control devices" and a host of other issues, now you have to anticipate the actions of these automatic systems they're building in such as IPM. I see where it comes from though. The majority of the drivers large trucking companies recruit aren't skilled machine operators and don't know how to shift a manual transmission, operate the throttle for efficiency, be easy with braking, etc. It REALLY makes me ill though that ET Transport talks to their audience like we're all unskilled idiots. Ronan needs to shut his stupid mouth and address the issue with HIS unskilled workers - and probably his recruiting department too.
The wide range of speed that IPM allows on a cruise setting, is the problem. With a 60 mph setting , mine was ranging anywhere from 50 to 68 mph , without making an attempt to correct the speed. In places with a low speed limit, and a lot of hills ( California is the worst) this can cause problems, as far as potentially getting a huge ticket.
Having said that , mine was set so the plus minus numbers were +5 / -4 , which was where I was getting the above variations in speed. A few months ago it was adjusted , with settings of +2/ -2 , and now is much better.
I've also been getting better fuel mileage with the current narrower parameters on that setting
The problem here is your companies locking you out of your options. You are supposed to be able to change the +/- settings on the fly with the little option button on the bottom right of the cruise control buttons.
I don't get it. I'm trucking in Europe. If I drive 80km/h truck cosume 29-30 liters per 100 km and I can drive in 10 hours about 800 km. But if I drive 90 km/h truck consume 33 liters but I will drive 900 km that day. So what would I do if I would drive slow, save fuel but drive less km?? In that case I will only waste time. These numbers are only for easy calculation because in Europe we drive max 9 hours per day, and it is allowed 10 only 2 times per week
I'm getting 9.1 kw t680 2022 cruse set 71 12 speed auto cummins x15
I set cruse to 71 and keep it on the floor and I manually drop it in 11 BEFORE I go uphill. Shift at 12 and 16 hundred rpm. In the hills it uses more however it is not as long ... I'm telling you fast approaching the hill is about the same efficiency in fuel HOWEVER I am going 675 to 725 miles daily
I'm getting 800 dollar mileage bonus every month
Wait till the opposed piston achates they will get twice that!! I saw 2.7l f150 get 42mpg avg on diesel instead of 24 on ram 3.0l diesel!! Thats over 75 percent!! Thats like getting close to 17 to 20 mpg!!! While towing a trailer!!!!
I’m at 8.6 mpg @65 mph 505 hp DD 13 speed manual 3.08 rears cuisine as much as possible and idle as little as needed almost broken in @ 50k
U r hilarious. Stand up comedy, done right, will make u more money.
you get about the same as here in uk with are cab overs but we can haul more
My AKA is " Truckers Coach " can I work for your company and get a special deal ? Please let me know right away because my special deal with the Comies over at GP Transco is falling apart.
61mph or 75mph? It's about time or money, which is more important to you? Let's do the math. @61 u can do 630 miles a day, @75 can do 750 miles. Will take @61 two hours more to cover 750 miles than @75. Question is how much fuel do each burn to travel 750 miles. I don't have the figure but an educated guess will do, @61 get 8 miles per gallon and @75 get 6.5 miles per gallon. So 750/8 burn through 94 gallons of fuel and 750/6.5 burn 115 gallons. Difference of 21 gallons saving for @ 61. Cost per gallon is approximately $3.50 x 21gallons = $73.5 in saving. Don't forget it take two hours longer to travel 750 miles for @61, so 73.5/2 hrs. Is getting paid $36.75/ hour worth the time behind the wheel? For owner operators, probably not, that's why they zipping by me @75 or more
Tire pressure is super important, when the tires are low the engine has to work harder to spin the tires.
Yeah.... I drive a Prius so I'm very MPG conscience.
And I do keep those tires pumped up even just a few pounds over.
I'm a little confused about what my dealership is telling me. I'm told with the paccar engine 12 speed auto 264 rears I'll be at 1100 rpm at 70. I'm wondering if the paccar 12 speed has a double over drive or is my dealership wrong. And I hate people that don't use cruise. I constantly have to race them. Half way by and the race begins.
Don't listen to him. Take a test ride 😉
Dt12 is available with 2 different final ratios I believe.
@@malyshevvasiliy9541 problem is there is nothing to test drive can't even find one to look inside of lol.
@@NBHank thanks that makes sense. I'm having him double check it just incase.
@@pepsonautotransport1322 Sorry, I didn't notice you were looking at a paccar, although theirs may have more than 1 ratio also.
when it comes to flatbed, 61mph or 75mph can be the difference of picking up that good load or not or sitting all weekend.
My paid for 2015 gets 0$ per mnth truck payments...
I tried out the lease program at RTI using this same concept and consistently got 9mpg minimum and more like 10mpg driving slow and shutting down at the fuel pump with a manual transmission 2020 Cascadia DD15. I'm going to be getting into a Volvo D13 Ishift with some easier work doing the same thing. I am hoping to break 10mpg.
Depositing my comment to help your channel
Awesome! Thanks!
I've observed Bees are attracted to trucks. Is there reason why that is? 🤔
Hey Brian I love watching this challenge videos the most.I would like to add that
I drive 2019 Cascadia and it has intelligence power management IPM that makes an amazing job and helps to get fuel mileage up to 9mpg.
But not all the cruise controls are that smart since they don’t have IPM. I have driven a 2019 Volvo and that particular truck was not good with cruise control at all. I was making better without it.
Here is why; A regular cruise control using much more power while climbing up hill to be able to catch the speed that driver asking to. But IPM technology understands about the hills and letting truck to slow down a little bit (-4mph), costing down hills also it’s letting truck to get faster(+5mph).
At the end of the video Russian plates on the truck)) Ronan you need to promote Brian's channel! If you not do this, I will move to Canada from Russia soon and do it by myself on your channel! :D
Hi countryman! There is a lot of footage with Russian trucks on ET's videos and I'm curious if Mr.Ronen has some relation to that part of the world. (Although i realize that it's more easy to use it, cuz you barely have to comply with copyrights 😄)
@@malyshevvasiliy9541 Heey! Maybe he has Russian roots or something like that)
At what rpm does it shift ?
Plastic 🙃 truck
What is the fuel mileage for the truck if you were running 65mph? I always enjoy Y’alls videos, but I was just curious on the comparison. Thanks!
Awesome job with the 9mpg very good job love cruise
Great points
the only way to calculate accurately is when doing the quarterly IFTA
I just recently got assigned a 21 Cascadia in my first gig and my first week was 8.6mpg. I cruise at 63 and im kind of curious to see is 61 makes a big difference. Though I don't use cruise control on ramps to get up to speed so im very curious to see the effect on my mpg if I try that change this week. I feel like it accelerates more aggressively than I do but I haven't thought about gear shift points. Really good video!
Fuel mileage is great. The only problem is after 5 years that truck is not worth much.
Or you can buy a new 389 and sell it for +100k on the open market after 4 years. And when you get that 100k put it towards your next 389. Now you defeated the fuel milage costs with a lower payment. And a much bigger trade in. Particularly on a four year cycle.
I quit listening to this guy once he said the truck optimizes at 61mph. Why bother then? Aerodynamics only come into play at above 65mph.
The only way these aerodynamic trucks are worth anything is on a lease deal. And bought in number. Where they don't keep them. So yeah big companies set up their business model on aerodynamic trucks. Because that's their biggest varible.
Peterbilt 359/379/389 has been a recipe for success for the singular O/O for a long time.
@@DutchK75 if you opt for a lower differential ratio and get a Paccar engine then you can still get decent fuel economy out of a Peterbilt 389
@@nirlambghumman7398 You mean higher rear end ratio? Higher gear lower RPM.
You can if you drive slow. Aerodynamics don't come into play until you are past 65mph. Once past 65mph. It's a brick going down the road.
It doesn't matter much. Peterbilt 389's and Kenworth W900's are a thing of the past. EPA's stupid fuel mandates. I'm a fan of the wider cabs and better interiors anyway. So I'm not to terribly upset.
@@DutchK75 No I mean let’s say you have a 389 with a 3.73 or 3.91 or 4.11 rear end ratio it won’t have good fuel economy but if you a 3.07, 3.08 or a 2.93 rear end ratio then you will have decent fuel economy. I have a friend who a 389 flattop sleeper with a Paccar engine, a 10 speed manual overdrive transmission and a 3.08 rear end ratio and he gets fuel economy in the 7’s
@@nirlambghumman7398 3.08 is a HIGHER gear ratio than like 3.73. But yes. You'll get better fuel economy with gear sets like 3.08.
I'm in a 2022 579. It's getting around 8.8mpg with 3.08's and a 13spd. But I drive 68mph mostly.
My tip...
Buy an electric blanket, and put it under you in marginally cold temperature and put a decent blanket above you.
It traps the heat in with very little drain of the batteries.
At maximum output it burns 150 w an hour and I set it at 3 out of 10.
I've had to use the APU a whole lot less, which does burn diesel.
I like how you think. Gonna go buy myself an electric blanket right now...
@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News
Thanks for the response!
I never thought about the APU bunk heater burning diesel when I was only running the heat or the cooling....
until I did yard duty for 4 days in a row not driving at all...just staying warm..
I saw the fuel gauge drop significantly, and didn't drive a mile... and it dawned on me....
That's one way I was losing MPGs.
I also use those silver windshield sun reflectors to avoid having to run bunk cooling as much... which again does burn diesel...if I'm correct..
My company has a standard of at least 8.31 miles per gallon average.
All depends how heavy u haul empty miles speed terrain
I’m not a truck drive, my dad is, but I just enjoy watching videos and learning about the industry. I love watching Brian become a true believer in the newer trucks. I remember watching his why he bought his Kenworth video. Now I’m watching him give credit where credit, where credit is do, to Cascadia. Great video man, enjoy seeing you and your operations manager work together to maximize your profit.
We appreciate that! Thanks for sharing!
My 2019 was running the same powertrain but turned down to 400hp and I was getting 9.5mpg out of it. Mostly the same aero package as yours but I had the AeroX bumper and Michelin super singles without the wheel covers running about 58mph.
I don't see a loaded trailer behind your truck. So 8.9 MPG "Bobtail"?
9 mpg seem to me really good but I'm curious as to what kind of terrain and average weight you typically haul?! I'm typically between 45k lbs to 60k pounds. I'm a big cruise control user and I don't get much better than 7 mpg with a rig that's the same as ET's Cascadia. Though I am in hills que a bit.
These guys haul American GVW not Canadian GVW
You might convince us old school guys for better fuel mileage. Great information Brian thanks for sharing
my company 2024 dd15 with same specs cruise slows down before the hills, that is the opposite of efficient. I can beat any cruise with my foot, it only makes sense on flatter ground. im so good i can run my foot off the sound of the turbo slowing down up hills at 8mpg averaging 8.2 in the winter, with winds, and no cover in open flat lands and yeah at about 61. summer 9.2. when it get real cold its gonna be impossible to get 8 in MN/WI/IA/NE. get me in the 94/90 corridor and 9 is easy. catch me out in IA and southern MN cross/headwinds I was pulling empty getting 6-7 at 60mph.
do the math of that geniuses
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What about the user of Jake brake?
I don't think the cruise is as efficient in a 579 Pete while accelerating. The computer gives it more throttle to get up to speed sooner than necessary. If I'm not impeding traffic, I accelerate like a turtle with my foot. I stay off the cruise until I'm up to speed then run 62-64 as long as I have enough time. Getting 9.0 mpg, measured over 310,000 miles hauling mostly reefer. But this is an interesting experiment I'm going to try. Maybe I'm wrong that my foot and brain are doing better than the computer can. I'll try using cruise at all times over the next 4 weeks and share the results.
Hello my name is Andrey and I’m trying to figure out what is the sweet spot for my
2016 Kenwoth T680
15L Cummins
500 horsepower
Drives 2.64
10 speed Eaton Fuller advantage transmission.
On RPM gauge I have two green lights (1200-1400RPM) which I believe indicates sweet spot but I don’t know how accurate is it.
To keep it in that sweet spot I need to drive in 9th gear 57mph or 10th 67mph 🤷🏽
When I drive 61 mph my rpm is at 1060 kinda low feels like the engine is working on their stress.
Looking forward great 👍 truck 😊
That is true driving between 62 & 60 will allow you to save more in fuel however it won't get you to far :(
I average between 62-65MPH and I can go 650 miles a day 🤷♂️
@@joeyduffield2684 And the guy doing 75-80MPH (if permissible) could do 750 miles and up per day. Saving of 2 hours, it's your time vs. money
@@nashblue1855 definitely could save time, but can eat up a lot more fuel depending on how the truck is geared, and how much weight you have! I would love to be able to run 70-75 MPH but so far I’ve never had an issue making timely deliveries.
Your math is not adding up, you are driving about 100 miles less than a person with 71 mph speed. So, if your load is paying $3 per mile, you are losing about $200 per day. In trucking, fuel is not not scarce, your time is (eld), use it wisely…
What trailer and losd lbs range? What about dead head?
At the truck stops I here from drivers with the new trucks... im doing 75 to 80 mph and my mpg suck 5 to 6 mph... I usually laugh at them ... my series 60 at62 mph I get 7.1
had someone claim this on another post. "my truck gets 7.5 mpg and does at 55 65 or 75 mph". lmao he claim he gets the same milage at 55 as 75... how do thee people exist? lmao he told me math was bs when i pointed out the nonsense.
You don't even have proper gallons in Murica lol. It's a short gallon. I didn't think the Republic would be using Mercedes engines with a different badge on. What happened to MAGA?
That is awesome video and it is true. My question is however.... is it worth it ? If I go 70mph this allows me to complete an extra 90 miles per day on a 10 hour day. This is 540 in 6 days. An extra 1400$ a week in pay. Thank you for your video. Great information, and I will use it if my load has extra time for delivery.
freightliner aka break your back ride comfort is horrible compare to pete kenvorth or volvo even internatinal only good thing is mpg and turning radios
Haul 45955 both ways in ky wv pa then post video not on 15 or 20000 on flat road . I am also getting 9 on paccar if i go 63 mph with 20000 .
Slower you go on freeway higher chance someone will hit you from the back, but faster you go you will hit someone going slower on the front.
how is it fully loaded with hills up down especially down with engine breaking ?
61 mph wears out your clock and yourself and creates traffic. No thanks. At the end of the month that 1k you saved in fuel are miles lost where you could have booked another load and made a couple more grand.