Yes, they took all of the blue out of their outfits to make super Saiyan blue stand out. But then they went back to their old outfits which especially on Vegeta just looked odd. Goku looked alright though, I actually rather his og look more anyway.
@@vegetashairline3060 I don't have anything against Goku's old look, he suffers much less than Vegeta does, but if gave me GT vibes of them getting whole new outfits that felt familiar but new. Just set the vibes for the series to me.
I like the Whis Gi for Vegeta but Goku’s Whis Gi was far too baggy for my taste. The belt on his old Gi actually tightens the look together but with the Whis Gi his tunic and belt just flow
Bruh a mfer can tech a throw after whiffing an ult...the stuff you talk about as far as defense goes in this game, I agree with you 100%. Some of these mechanics don't make sense😂
@@tubbymontana7090 You can break their ki to guarantee a ton of damage, but the issue is that the game regens ki stupidly fast if you have less than a bar
When playing Androids who regenerate Ki, I would reccomend skipping out on the beams and instead using the extra Ki to chase and pressure them with Ki Blasts. These Androids allow for an extremely aggressive playstyle which keeps the opponent on the backfoot while you progressively get stronger. Of course, running behind on Ki is much worse for you than it is for them, so it's best just to keep them low on Ki and cash out when swapping or killing (pretty sure their Ki regenerates when they're off-field as well).
Bardock, 18 and Trunks. This lineup brings back so many memories man I low-key miss see you run em in DBFZ. Too bad the state of the game is just not it atm
You have to constantly pressure using androids, don’t let them charge, transform, fuse, or instant spark, literally just stay in their face the entire fight
Hey lotus, idk if you know, trunks has sway tech. Offensive, if someone vanished your attack, you can actually step behind them by double tapping X in their direction. Or us X+O in their direction. While ssj he can only do this defensively. Hope it help ❤️
Pov: you come across someone playing android 19 Trunks with the rest of the sparking community: if they set that android off it’ll be the end of all of us!!!! NOOOOO😂
As for androids in this game, it's heavy rewarded for rush attacks, the ki gain is huge and don't finish combo's on a special, instead either immediately charge them or if you have enough ki, sparking and rush them down
Quick tech for the trash lock on system: if a new fighter comes in, you can switch to a different character and it locks on immediately no matter where they are
My brother in Christ, this whole thing where you dash in instead of sidestepping happened to me the other day too. Thought I was going CRAZY. Good to know it's not just me
There are arguments to be made that certain types of balancing is MORE important in a Casual game than a Competitive game. Wanting to be able to play the game in a different way is much more legitimate a sentiment in a game where "casual fun" is meant to be a higher priority than winning. Like playing Smash Bros with Items On - You don't need to play with ALL items on, it is understood and legitimate to turn off some items, not because you are trying to "balance" the game, but because you are trying to maximize the fun. The same argument can be made here, saying that certain things should be changed - not to make the game "competitively balanced", but to make it more fun.
100% Super is its own thing, it ain't Z and it ain’t GT, Vegeta and Goku should have kept those new fits from Resurrection F Though my favorite looks for them are the End of Z fits, I NEED those
When playing an Android you gotta play way more aggressively since you don't need to charge ki you can prevent your opponent from charging ki by always attacking never letting them rest, transform, or switch out is the strength of an Android since you'll be charging ki the entire time it only benefits you to get in there
Yeah I don't know that they should have done other than a way better UI better use of capsules and make it worth it like last time. The story mode was pretty cool when it was more like a board game or something like budokai 2. We need an ultimate tower as well.
I love playing this game no doubt about it. But I gotta say, people just don’t rematch in this game. I always rematch no matter the outcome of the previous round because I can only get better at the game as I keep playing. When someone actually rematches, I know they a real one. I’m playing dbs broly in singles rn.
5:15 FOR REAL, this is literally my biggest complaint in the game. After playing so much SF6 and throwing parry happy opponents this just feels so wrong. If you throw someone who is doing perception it should do extra damage and take some ki, not get teched. You can literally spam guard while holding perception (and vice versa, but that's another conversation). More generally, I think there are way too many situations where throws SHOULD be untechable, but for some reason are, like on a big recovery or stun. On the plus side, one time I accidentally threw somebody out of their Rush Super, like they flew right into my hand and it felt godly. Just as an aside, I kinda wish that Ki Blast Cannon Rush Chain should read as a projectile against perception. It just kinda looks awkward to me to see them block and counter it like it was a punch. Looked super weird when Hit was just standing in Trunks energy blast in a karate stance.
@@cmccollum51 i mean it make sense considering cell saga 18 wouldnt know the move yet alot of characters have different moves and ults depending on outfits to line up with what they used when they had that fit on
man i just wish that they would experiment with giving characters different kinds of outfits! Like badman Vegeta, postboy Piccolo, or Goku's jacket fit! they gotta bring the Dragon Ball Drip
I love playing this game no doubt about it. But I gotta say, people just don’t rematch in this game. I always rematch no matter the outcome of the previous round because I can only get better at the game as I keep playing. When someone actually rematches, I know they a real one.
Nothing more hype then hitting 5 super counters straight that makes me feel like I'm playing dbz how they did in the show when they was locked in y'all buggin bout it imo but we all have different opinions
I actually like Vegeta's sayian armor from the cell saga but for some reason the way it's designed now doesn't hit like it did back then. Maybe the way the art is rendered now, I don't know but I do agree that the Whis armor is superior
You gotta keep up the aggression with hands with androids. Most of the time I never out of ki it's also why easier to throw out regular ki blast in your game plan to stagger enemy's for more combos. My main team is usually 18 19 gero and videl
i can actually fit my main team with just enough space for a hercule to fit on there I mained Hit (8DP), Roshi (2DP, I use max power version), and Tien (4DP). i might even run this team now and again
I agree with the whole defense problem. It feels like you're safe on anything and everything which just encourages spamming. Even worse when I'm punching them, they're flinching and being hit, and yet they perform a sonic sway mid ass beat. Very cool. (Hate unblockables btw. Why does Goku Black have a 3 bar unblockable super?! Ultimates, fine. But why a basic super that still deals hefty damage?) My main problem is the timer. I often find my matches running out of time, and sometimes its not even because my opponent is running. We're just scrapping normally, and even in a 3v3 format, that time will start ticking and lead to an unsatisfying W or an annoying L.
Good matches but the more I play ranked the more I hate this game. The online is gonna tank and by tank I mean soon it’ll be nothing but sweaty players having vanishing wars with full ki bars so it takes forever and using every cheap exploit in the book. And then of course the best combo strategy is hitting people from behind. And people thought this trash was gonna dominate the fgc. You see people who never rage quit in other fighting games rage quitting in this. Or having such a bad time they take breaks for days before coming back to it. No way will this have dlc support as long as XV2, not unless the dlc is mainly more single player story missions and what ifs along with extra fighters. If it’s just more fighters they need to nerf a whole lot of stuff.
stepping needs to be what perception is right now, i think its way cooler to be flipping and zooming everywhere like in Kakarot than just pose looping and getting an auto block with little payoff :\ stepping needs to spend less or no ki and it need to ACTUALLY dodge ki blasts, so many times when im thinking Oh ill dodge this but just get smacked in the face by a kamemeha. after that, super counter and R counter need to switch (super being front only and R being back and front but costs skill), getting behind your opponent should be the one thing that cant be countered so easily, spending skill points (that need to generate WAY faster btw) that you get from vanish wars to break out of a vanish war or back attack, in turn resetting to neutral should be the loop. getting behind your opponent should be a huge reward of damage or full combo, still vansihable at the right moments but you need some kind of reward. its bullshit doing all this work to get a lil damage but someone just super counters and vanishes into free super feels bad man was only a casual on tenkaichi back when i was a kid so i dont really get the mechanics lol so i definitely find games like fighterz way more fun ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Speaking of outfits I’m real upset Gokus end of Z outfit isn’t in the game easily my favourite goku fit I was really looking forward to playing that when the game came out and unfortunately it wasn’t there
Hey lotus how do feel about charge and supers being on the same button because I've been playing since early access as well and I can't help but not like it
Gonna have to disagree, worst Vegeta fit is for sure Buu arc. Literally just his android fit but without the armor so he's just a blue guy with fancy shoes.
i get that BD (brainde) thing yknow its the same thing why i dont fw using like "gay" as a insult or at least along relative principles it just fucks with me and makes me a lil uncomfortable yknow
When I am playing an android and I get in those situations with no KI. I either swap out, or just fly toward them spacing out KI blasts to stop them from charging or getting skills off
Yo lotus, bitrate on your stream is so bad that you can't make out your face at some points, at max res too, for whatever that's worth, wasn't the best viewing experience, your actual videos look great tho
I think DBFZ's defensive mechanics are more balanced than Sparking Zero's right now. It's supposed to be that way though. I'd be surprised if it wasn't the case.
Lotus preaching to the choir, I am constantly mad they made Goku and Vegeta go back to their old styles. Those new fits hit.
Yes, they took all of the blue out of their outfits to make super Saiyan blue stand out. But then they went back to their old outfits which especially on Vegeta just looked odd. Goku looked alright though, I actually rather his og look more anyway.
@@vegetashairline3060 I don't have anything against Goku's old look, he suffers much less than Vegeta does, but if gave me GT vibes of them getting whole new outfits that felt familiar but new. Just set the vibes for the series to me.
Majin Buu Saga Vegeta is ROCKING that jumpsuit! The blue really corresponds with Goku’s orange. Plus he looks great in SSJ1 & 2 in it.
I like the Whis Gi for Vegeta but Goku’s Whis Gi was far too baggy for my taste. The belt on his old Gi actually tightens the look together but with the Whis Gi his tunic and belt just flow
I always felt like goku without his undershirt on was super weird i feel like it only works on certain occasions
Bruh a mfer can tech a throw after whiffing an ult...the stuff you talk about as far as defense goes in this game, I agree with you 100%. Some of these mechanics don't make sense😂
Like damn I can't get a guaranteed throw punish on ANYTHING? Lmfaooo. It's kinda crazy at times.
I’m surprised there’s no punishes in the game what happened to ki sickness people out here playing dragon ball spamming zero
@@tubbymontana7090You can break ki guages and get a guaranteed combo until they recover
I agree 😂😂
@@tubbymontana7090 You can break their ki to guarantee a ton of damage, but the issue is that the game regens ki stupidly fast if you have less than a bar
When playing Androids who regenerate Ki, I would reccomend skipping out on the beams and instead using the extra Ki to chase and pressure them with Ki Blasts.
These Androids allow for an extremely aggressive playstyle which keeps the opponent on the backfoot while you progressively get stronger. Of course, running behind on Ki is much worse for you than it is for them, so it's best just to keep them low on Ki and cash out when swapping or killing (pretty sure their Ki regenerates when they're off-field as well).
Yeah androids are rushdown characters fundamentally ppl gotta understand that
yayyyyyy, been wanting to see you play 18, even have her theme running in the back. thanks for the video 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Glad you noticed ~
Fun Fact: Android 18 has an outfit that gives her Destructo Disk as a super, which is unblockable
Outfit 4
Bardock, 18 and Trunks. This lineup brings back so many memories man I low-key miss see you run em in DBFZ. Too bad the state of the game is just not it atm
Android 18 main here I highly recommend equipping her buu saga fit it makes her second skill unblockalble
Chain destro baby
it’s so good i got to top 20 with her last night
Lotus u right on vegetas outfits. His cell outfit is iconic but the whis gi, the second form cloth, the namek and saiyan saga armor is all better ngl
I will die on this Hill….But his Majin Buu Sega outfit slaps! I don’t care. I know it’s just a blue sleeveless jumpsuit but he got that thing on!
It’s not whis gi though bulma made it for him
@ yea but it was for training with whis and had his symbol
You have to constantly pressure using androids, don’t let them charge, transform, fuse, or instant spark, literally just stay in their face the entire fight
Especially don't let dr gero and 19 charge. They'll just spam the health steal move 😭
@ androids can’t charge fam
@@Notfakeultra 😱
@@jeremyjohnson9609 Or you can learn how to guard the most obvious grabs you'll see in the game
@@Notfakeultra Cell entered the chat. Lol
Hey lotus, idk if you know, trunks has sway tech. Offensive, if someone vanished your attack, you can actually step behind them by double tapping X in their direction. Or us X+O in their direction. While ssj he can only do this defensively. Hope it help ❤️
Pov: you come across someone playing android 19
Trunks with the rest of the sparking community: if they set that android off it’ll be the end of all of us!!!! NOOOOO😂
As for androids in this game, it's heavy rewarded for rush attacks, the ki gain is huge and don't finish combo's on a special, instead either immediately charge them or if you have enough ki, sparking and rush them down
Quick tech for the trash lock on system: if a new fighter comes in, you can switch to a different character and it locks on immediately no matter where they are
GGs!! I felt like I’ve gotten demolished whole match lmao, but I was so shocked to come across you 😭
My brother in Christ, this whole thing where you dash in instead of sidestepping happened to me the other day too. Thought I was going CRAZY. Good to know it's not just me
Another thing I'd like added: cinematic finish. That sadistic 18 ult is begging for a cinematic win screen that I can screenshot
18, Turles, Syn Shenron, Bergamo, Caulifla, and Kefla are my mains so far.
Lets goo back to classic Lotus content
That Kevin Hart reference was on point😂😂 don’t worry, we can be Uncs together gang
There are arguments to be made that certain types of balancing is MORE important in a Casual game than a Competitive game.
Wanting to be able to play the game in a different way is much more legitimate a sentiment in a game where "casual fun" is meant to be a higher priority than winning. Like playing Smash Bros with Items On - You don't need to play with ALL items on, it is understood and legitimate to turn off some items, not because you are trying to "balance" the game, but because you are trying to maximize the fun. The same argument can be made here, saying that certain things should be changed - not to make the game "competitively balanced", but to make it more fun.
The worst decision ever made by super is changing thier whis Gi. So happy lotus understands.
I love Android 18, I can constantly pressure the opponent and not have to put too much into defense
Lotis ain’t wrong vegeta attire looked clean af sad they changed it but good thing they always change so we got a lot of vegeta looks
Yeah, I like there Whis Outfits too. Personally, I think they represents the "New age" of Dragon ball quite well.
100%
Super is its own thing, it ain't Z and it ain’t GT, Vegeta and Goku should have kept those new fits from Resurrection F
Though my favorite looks for them are the End of Z fits, I NEED those
When playing an Android you gotta play way more aggressively since you don't need to charge ki you can prevent your opponent from charging ki by always attacking never letting them rest, transform, or switch out is the strength of an Android since you'll be charging ki the entire time it only benefits you to get in there
Cutscene ultimates would be so dope in a dragon ball game 💯🔥🔥🥶
I really liked the capsule corp outfits from Heroes
Yeah I don't know that they should have done other than a way better UI better use of capsules and make it worth it like last time. The story mode was pretty cool when it was more like a board game or something like budokai 2. We need an ultimate tower as well.
I love playing this game no doubt about it. But I gotta say, people just don’t rematch in this game. I always rematch no matter the outcome of the previous round because I can only get better at the game as I keep playing. When someone actually rematches, I know they a real one. I’m playing dbs broly in singles rn.
5:15 FOR REAL, this is literally my biggest complaint in the game. After playing so much SF6 and throwing parry happy opponents this just feels so wrong. If you throw someone who is doing perception it should do extra damage and take some ki, not get teched. You can literally spam guard while holding perception (and vice versa, but that's another conversation). More generally, I think there are way too many situations where throws SHOULD be untechable, but for some reason are, like on a big recovery or stun. On the plus side, one time I accidentally threw somebody out of their Rush Super, like they flew right into my hand and it felt godly.
Just as an aside, I kinda wish that Ki Blast Cannon Rush Chain should read as a projectile against perception. It just kinda looks awkward to me to see them block and counter it like it was a punch. Looked super weird when Hit was just standing in Trunks energy blast in a karate stance.
Also you came blink with directional with circle, would make it easier to behind someone while sparked up
A tip lotus that you probably already know if you change 18 outfit you get the unblockable distructo disc
You don’t have to change the outfit to get distructo disc. Just jump and charge ki blast
@@cmccollum51 yes you do destructo disc replaces energy wave when she's in outfit 4.
@ that’s wild to tie that to an outfit
@@cmccollum51 i mean it make sense considering cell saga 18 wouldnt know the move yet alot of characters have different moves and ults depending on outfits to line up with what they used when they had that fit on
@ I guess, most fighting games outfits are purely cosmetic. But as lotus said; this isn’t most fighting games I know
The defensive mechanics are perplexing and within the realm of criticism in my humble opinion
I rock the 18 with the duel Destructo disk outfit
man i just wish that they would experiment with giving characters different kinds of outfits! Like badman Vegeta, postboy Piccolo, or Goku's jacket fit! they gotta bring the Dragon Ball Drip
I love playing this game no doubt about it. But I gotta say, people just don’t rematch in this game. I always rematch no matter the outcome of the previous round because I can only get better at the game as I keep playing. When someone actually rematches, I know they a real one.
I would lose to Janemba everytime because I cant stop laughing at him 😂
Nothing more hype then hitting 5 super counters straight that makes me feel like I'm playing dbz how they did in the show when they was locked in y'all buggin bout it imo but we all have different opinions
I actually like Vegeta's sayian armor from the cell saga but for some reason the way it's designed now doesn't hit like it did back then. Maybe the way the art is rendered now, I don't know but I do agree that the Whis armor is superior
Lotus try android 18 in the costume where her super turns to chain destructo disc. It's broken. It's unblockable and great for giants
kevin hearts a crazy refrence
I agreed on that take about the outfits for goku and vegeta
I still think Vegetas best fit is the one he fought Frieza in Z with
The old armour
I really like that one too. Whis Gi is my favorite but that honestly might be my 2nd.
Lol interesting idea! Love the content ❤
You gotta keep up the aggression with hands with androids. Most of the time I never out of ki it's also why easier to throw out regular ki blast in your game plan to stagger enemy's for more combos. My main team is usually 18 19 gero and videl
Sadly I can't do this because 21 isn't in the game
The best thing about Android 18 in Sparking Zero is her ki spam game 😌
Why haven’t i thought of this idea?😅 my team of Teen Gohan, Roshi, Super Broly would probably be pretty good in this game
The continuous vanish needs to take bar so it doesnt take too long
U need to get 18 4th custom so you get her unblockable destructo disc with sparking makes her stronger. Use more short dashes to keep more ki.
I think the cheese is way more annoying, but I do agree there should be should adjustments to the defensive mechanics in some way
DESTRUCTO DISC OUTFIT IN THE SHOP! Costs a grip, but worth it.
i can actually fit my main team with just enough space for a hercule to fit on there
I mained Hit (8DP), Roshi (2DP, I use max power version), and Tien (4DP). i might even run this team now and again
I agree with the whole defense problem. It feels like you're safe on anything and everything which just encourages spamming. Even worse when I'm punching them, they're flinching and being hit, and yet they perform a sonic sway mid ass beat. Very cool. (Hate unblockables btw. Why does Goku Black have a 3 bar unblockable super?! Ultimates, fine. But why a basic super that still deals hefty damage?)
My main problem is the timer. I often find my matches running out of time, and sometimes its not even because my opponent is running. We're just scrapping normally, and even in a 3v3 format, that time will start ticking and lead to an unsatisfying W or an annoying L.
Lotus, you should get the destructo disc outfit on Android 18. It's a more consistent super
I agree with you on the Whis fit for Vegeta, but for some reason i cant stand the Whis Gi Goku wears
Good matches but the more I play ranked the more I hate this game.
The online is gonna tank and by tank I mean soon it’ll be nothing but sweaty players having vanishing wars with full ki bars so it takes forever and using every cheap exploit in the book.
And then of course the best combo strategy is hitting people from behind.
And people thought this trash was gonna dominate the fgc.
You see people who never rage quit in other fighting games rage quitting in this. Or having such a bad time they take breaks for days before coming back to it.
No way will this have dlc support as long as XV2, not unless the dlc is mainly more single player story missions and what ifs along with extra fighters.
If it’s just more fighters they need to nerf a whole lot of stuff.
stepping needs to be what perception is right now, i think its way cooler to be flipping and zooming everywhere like in Kakarot than just pose looping and getting an auto block with little payoff :\
stepping needs to spend less or no ki and it need to ACTUALLY dodge ki blasts, so many times when im thinking Oh ill dodge this but just get smacked in the face by a kamemeha.
after that, super counter and R counter need to switch (super being front only and R being back and front but costs skill), getting behind your opponent should be the one thing that cant be countered so easily, spending skill points (that need to generate WAY faster btw) that you get from vanish wars to break out of a vanish war or back attack, in turn resetting to neutral should be the loop. getting behind your opponent should be a huge reward of damage or full combo, still vansihable at the right moments but you need some kind of reward. its bullshit doing all this work to get a lil damage but someone just super counters and vanishes into free super feels bad man
was only a casual on tenkaichi back when i was a kid so i dont really get the mechanics lol so
i definitely find games like fighterz way more fun ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Speaking of outfits I’m real upset Gokus end of Z outfit isn’t in the game easily my favourite goku fit I was really looking forward to playing that when the game came out and unfortunately it wasn’t there
while i also hate the android saga armor for vegeta i dont like the whis armor either, i'm a fan of the buu saga outfit
namek saga armor is my 2nd favorite
Offense is braindead too in this game. Combos require no execution. So, to my way of thinking, it's fair that defense options are just as easy.
Bro said check my elo
I think to beat the bug swap where you cxnt move is to actually move w the left stick before you try anything. That glitch ALWAYS happens to me
I’m surprised the drink doesn’t cost 10 DP like beerus does. Kinda crazy
That intro though 🤣😂😆
Hey lotus how do feel about charge and supers being on the same button because I've been playing since early access as well and I can't help but not like it
5:19 naw you're 100% right
Dont worry seereax be making the same reference. So if you unc he unc fr fr.
Okay, I usually say skill issue, but Sonic Sway is a little TOO easy to get off. Lol
I went on a 37 streak D5-B3. Peak b1 DP, singles S5 rn. I can confidently say b rank in DP is the exact same as A-S in solos lol
That’s about what I figured lol
@@LotusAsakuragreat video, love to play you sometime if you do a video where you play viewers. We can run meta and give them what they want 😂
With androids just rush in and throw hands
You are getting ki the entire time.
Androids are good at rush down
Stream and video. We locked in
Gonna have to disagree, worst Vegeta fit is for sure Buu arc. Literally just his android fit but without the armor so he's just a blue guy with fancy shoes.
I feel like Super counter, perception, and sway should cost 1/4 of ur skill bar ngl.
Real talk Lo do you like the game or do you feel pressured to like?
i get that BD (brainde) thing yknow its the same thing why i dont fw using like "gay" as a insult or at least along relative principles it just fucks with me and makes me a lil uncomfortable yknow
Use outfit 4 with Android 18, she gets chain destructo disk as a super with it on
Infinite combo games🥱
We need ice stage
Also the trade off for 18s unblocka ke attack ks if it whiffs or doesnt land right you will get punished hard for it
When I am playing an android and I get in those situations with no KI. I either swap out, or just fly toward them spacing out KI blasts to stop them from charging or getting skills off
Fufu is tasty.
I wish I could but 21 ain’t here yet
Mashing perception should drain your ki
8:31 ????????? super went thru Janemba but did no damage ?????????
Seen that was just about to say something about it lol 💀
Yo lotus, bitrate on your stream is so bad that you can't make out your face at some points, at max res too, for whatever that's worth, wasn't the best viewing experience, your actual videos look great tho
No hate, just trynna help ya out
I hate the perception mashing in this game especially if it works when it shouldn’t.
I can't play my dbfz team because they cost too many points 😢
Here’s a question for lotus and whoever else sees this………. Now that some time has passed which game has the better defensive mechanics SZ or Dbfz?.
I think DBFZ's defensive mechanics are more balanced than Sparking Zero's right now. It's supposed to be that way though. I'd be surprised if it wasn't the case.
7:00 with androids you have to play like an android lol STAY AGGRO never let them charge ki because u only gain ki by landing hits on your opponent .
* with 17-18 grow passive but 19-20 you need to land hits
@@elcappa1167u need to land hits with both
@@Notfakeultrawatch when he used 18 watch his ki as it constantly go up when janemba came in
8:30 HOW do all those miss?
I havent been able to test it cause they never attempt it on me cause i am 18 17 and 13 but i do think 19 and gero cant absorb other androids
Goku ROF Gi is EASILY his best one. Vegeta’s would be better with black.
Z trunks looks way better in ssj than super trunks. They murder my goats look imo
Could have clipped it or saved replay and comment over it is always be down for that
Janemba backshots???
Fastest I pressed on a vid fr
I wish I could use my fighterz team but #21 isn't in this😢
FUU!!