The one I bought in 2011 was made in 2003 but has exactly the same contact positions. Really, it's six on/off switches built into single body, three in position one and three in position two with nothing contacting in zero position.. As soon as you know that you can wire various contacts as on/off to turn on two sets of three components simultaneously, (using common ground)) or add jumpers to reverse polarity, etc
if you have two loads to one source, or one load to two sources, how to you jumper together the extra position? do you run two wires in one position to the extra? or is there a way to add a jumper of some kind? Hope my question makes sense.
Not sure anyone will answer. But in position 1 - you have one source and one destination. In position 2 you have one source and one destination. Those two destinations, on 1 and 2, are not the same? So if I wanted two power sources (shore power or generator), I need to jumper the two outputs? Is that correct? Why would it be built this way?
You are on the right track with your connections. As far as why this is built this way I suspect is flexibility, you can jumper if needed or completely shut down one system and connect another. One shore power going to a panel and one battery going to only essentials.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Have been searching for someone that speaks English to describe this switch. So, I read on Amazon reviews for this switch that someone was able to use it to switch between 120 volts ac between two different supplies from grid and off grid(solar) power to their workshop. So there would be three wires going to the switch, two lines and a load. All three wires would have a ground, neutral and hot wire or bare, black, and white wire, therefore 9 individual wires altogether going to the switch. With all those terminal points that your were talking about 2-5,4-7, etc., how would you wire these terminals with the 6 line wires and the three load wires in order to be able to supply a workshop with either grid power or solar power? You had mentioned at the end of the video contacting an electrician. Save me a trip please, you can speak hypothetically on how you would do it, if you were trying to do this.
I will start with the assumption that you are asking about doing one circuit not the whole house panel. So let us assume that you have a 20 amp circuit running to the garage and you also have solar panel array with batteries and an inverter. The way you would have to have this wired is something like this: The black, white and bare coming from the panel would have to be connected to 1, 5 and 9. The black, white and bare from the ac/dc inverter would have to go to 3,7 and 11. Then you would have 2 black wires coming from 2 and 4 connected together with the black going to the outlets. 2 whites from 6 and 8 connected with the white line going to the outlets and 2 bare coming from 10 and 12 connected with the bare going to the outlet. I am currently using the switch to control the output of my VFD, the reverse of what you are contemplating. I may take some video if I get a chance.
I have placed one of those switches in my shopping cart on Amazon. Was afraid to pull the trigger because of the complexity. You have helped me with this and for that I am grateful.
@@asquaregarden Thanks so much for this. I am doing a similar thing in my RV and your explanation helped me do it correctly. These rotary switches are like a rubix cube to newbie like me.
@@asquaregarden Hey! Thank you for the video and comments I've searched everywhere for this. I just have one question if you can help about how the outlet wires are connected. I want to use the switch for the same purpose as Jeff Lahman. But I'm a bit confused when you say 2&4 are connected together with the black going to the outlets. For example with the black wire: - 1&2 have two separate black wires coming from the two separate power sources. - Is 2 then connected to 4 with another separate black wire? and then one black wire from 2 or 4 connected to the outlet?
I have this exact switch and am trying to figure out how to reverse a 3 phase motor. How would I have to hook up the wires on this switch in order to do this?
You need to look at the plate of the motor first as it will generally tell you what you need to do to reverse it. You will likely just need to switch two of the supply phases xyz goes to yxz. So just wire one side of the switch in one phase direction and the other with the lines switched. Then take power to the motor from both sides of the switch.
@@asquaregarden My brain is starting to hurt a little. I've wired up my whole shop, but switches and stuff mix up my mind. Knowing I have the three wires (plus ground), those three wires need to be hooked up a certain way on one side of the switch and a certain way on the other. Which numbers do I have to put the wires in so that I can reverse the motor? Thanks!
If you can’t read the instructions, because of another language Use GOOGLE TRANSLATE I use it to translate and I have no problems reading the instructions after that
so I'm assuming, once you figure out the continuity, you go 3 wires (hot, neutral and ground) in the position 1, and the other set of 3 wires (hot neutral ground) in position 2. 0 is being off for everything. Also, is it able to switch during load or does it arc like crazy?
There is no joint numbers! For example switch one generator and main breaker Second switch building and again main breaker. You can not main breaker in the rotary twice. I have tried all the combinations but did not work!
The one I bought in 2011 was made in 2003 but has exactly the same contact positions. Really, it's six on/off switches built into single body, three in position one and three in position two with nothing contacting in zero position.. As soon as you know that you can wire various contacts as on/off to turn on two sets of three components simultaneously, (using common ground)) or add jumpers to reverse polarity, etc
if you have two loads to one source, or one load to two sources, how to you jumper together the extra position? do you run two wires in one position to the extra? or is there a way to add a jumper of some kind? Hope my question makes sense.
Not sure anyone will answer. But in position 1 - you have one source and one destination. In position 2 you have one source and one destination. Those two destinations, on 1 and 2, are not the same? So if I wanted two power sources (shore power or generator), I need to jumper the two outputs? Is that correct? Why would it be built this way?
You are on the right track with your connections. As far as why this is built this way I suspect is flexibility, you can jumper if needed or completely shut down one system and connect another. One shore power going to a panel and one battery going to only essentials.
Great video! where is the connection for the ground wire!?
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Have been searching for someone that speaks English to describe this switch. So, I read on Amazon reviews for this switch that someone was able to use it to switch between 120 volts ac between two different supplies from grid and off grid(solar) power to their workshop. So there would be three wires going to the switch, two lines and a load. All three wires would have a ground, neutral and hot wire or bare, black, and white wire, therefore 9 individual wires altogether going to the switch. With all those terminal points that your were talking about 2-5,4-7, etc., how would you wire these terminals with the 6 line wires and the three load wires in order to be able to supply a workshop with either grid power or solar power? You had mentioned at the end of the video contacting an electrician. Save me a trip please, you can speak hypothetically on how you would do it, if you were trying to do this.
I will start with the assumption that you are asking about doing one circuit not the whole house panel. So let us assume that you have a 20 amp circuit running to the garage and you also have solar panel array with batteries and an inverter. The way you would have to have this wired is something like this: The black, white and bare coming from the panel would have to be connected to 1, 5 and 9. The black, white and bare from the ac/dc inverter would have to go to 3,7 and 11. Then you would have 2 black wires coming from 2 and 4 connected together with the black going to the outlets. 2 whites from 6 and 8 connected with the white line going to the outlets and 2 bare coming from 10 and 12 connected with the bare going to the outlet. I am currently using the switch to control the output of my VFD, the reverse of what you are contemplating. I may take some video if I get a chance.
Here is the video I was talking about . ruclips.net/video/NBnVht7qq1Q/видео.html
I have placed one of those switches in my shopping cart on Amazon. Was afraid to pull the trigger because of the complexity. You have helped me with this and for that I am grateful.
@@asquaregarden Thanks so much for this. I am doing a similar thing in my RV and your explanation helped me do it correctly. These rotary switches are like a rubix cube to newbie like me.
@@asquaregarden Hey! Thank you for the video and comments I've searched everywhere for this. I just have one question if you can help about how the outlet wires are connected.
I want to use the switch for the same purpose as Jeff Lahman. But I'm a bit confused when you say 2&4 are connected together with the black going to the outlets.
For example with the black wire:
- 1&2 have two separate black wires coming from the two separate power sources.
- Is 2 then connected to 4 with another separate black wire? and then one black wire from 2 or 4 connected to the outlet?
Thank you very much for this video
stxmariner you are welcome. I hope it helps.
I have this exact switch and am trying to figure out how to reverse a 3 phase motor. How would I have to hook up the wires on this switch in order to do this?
You need to look at the plate of the motor first as it will generally tell you what you need to do to reverse it. You will likely just need to switch two of the supply phases xyz goes to yxz. So just wire one side of the switch in one phase direction and the other with the lines switched. Then take power to the motor from both sides of the switch.
@@asquaregarden My brain is starting to hurt a little. I've wired up my whole shop, but switches and stuff mix up my mind. Knowing I have the three wires (plus ground), those three wires need to be hooked up a certain way on one side of the switch and a certain way on the other. Which numbers do I have to put the wires in so that I can reverse the motor? Thanks!
Nice video. Can you explain what terminals are used to connect a generator, Power from the street and power to the panel.
thanksssssssssssss from my heart man
Bill David I am happy that the video helped.
Can i see 6 position 12 terminal
If you can’t read the instructions, because of another language
Use GOOGLE TRANSLATE
I use it to translate and I have no problems reading the instructions after that
Thank you!
You are welcome!
so I'm assuming, once you figure out the continuity, you go 3 wires (hot, neutral and ground) in the position 1, and the other set of 3 wires (hot neutral ground) in position 2. 0 is being off for everything. Also, is it able to switch during load or does it arc like crazy?
You got it. I have not tried to switch during load so I can’t really answer.
I need 1 piece. How can i buy?
So you check contuity 1-2 5-6
Do one with wireing
There is no joint numbers! For example switch one generator and main breaker
Second switch building and again main breaker. You can not main breaker in the rotary twice. I have tried all the combinations but did not work!
I wouldn't use a switch that is not a known quality brand. unless I am using it to play with it!