The juror who showed how to use the switch blade has two fantastic TV series that you might want to try an episode of: The comedic series, The Odd Couple, and the dramatic series Quincy. Also, one of the 12 jurors had a major role in an episode of TOS Star Trek! You didn’t mention it so maybe you didn’t notice? He looks and sounds exactly the same. If you want to ponder on it, I will answer below. Juror 2, the nerdy juror, played Jack the Ripper in Wolf in the Fold.
12 Angry Men is, without doubt a great movie, with a phenomenal cast! If you get the chance (between TNG's, of course) I'd love to see your reactions to 1970's techno-thriller, "Colossus The Forbin Project". With all the talk of AI lately, you'll find it oddly prescient. Enjoy!
Henry Fonda REALLY wanted this movie to be made, to the point that he helped produce it. He also never actually got paid for it. But he still considered it one of his best, and favourite roles.
My favorite courtroom drama is 1982’s “The Verdict” directed by Sidney Lumet and starring Paul Newman, Charlotte Rampling, Jack Warden and James Mason. Newman plays an alcoholic, down on his luck Boston attorney who takes on a Catholic hospital in a medical malpractice case. It’s one of those movies that I’ll watch whenever it comes on TV. The scene where the maternity ward nurse breaks down on the stand always gives me the chills. Every actor is just phenomenal.
I still consider this the best courtroom film. Best war film? Bridge on the River Kwai. If you want another classic film that will challenge your top 10 list, this is one.
This was a movie I’ve avoided my entire life for some reason (I’m 60 years old now). I watched it for the first time about a year or so ago and I loved it. It’s such a powerful film with great cinematography and great performances all around. There’s a 1997 made for TV version directed by William Friedkin (“The Exorcist”) starring George C Scott, Ossie Davis, James Gandolfini and more. It’s almost as good as the original.
This was written for TV and performed by Robert Cummings for CBS in the role Fonda took when he produced it for theaters. Juror 2 was Jack the Ripper on TOS and the voice of Piglet. The last holdout, Juror 3, was the homicide detective in The Exorcist. Juror 1 was the private detective in Psycho.
Jack Klugman was great in everything he did. Lots of great Twilight Zone episodes. He really deserved to be in more films but seemed used mostly in TV.
You guys need to watch more old movies. :) This is not to say that all old movies are good but that the ones that survive the test of time are exceptional. I hope your patreons have also suggested the likes of "The Searchers", "Casablanca", "Spartacus", "The Maltese Falcon", "To Be or Not to Be" (either version)... I could go on. :)
I like how you have different people from different backgrounds - how we can all see the same thing but don't SEE things. The eyeglass notches - how to use a switchblade. Things that others didn't see or didn't know about
this is a movie that can inform people about the current American political debate that's one way you know this is true art....it is both a product of its time and timeless this is a movie about AMERICA, about how AMERICA "works" how we can all get along, even if we can't stand to be near each other THAT'S AMERICA
They’re not jury movies, but some other classic black and white movies I’d like to recommend Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, Seven Samurai, Rashomon (heh, I’m doubling up on my Bogart and Kurosawa), Dr Strangelove, off the top of my head.
A Great B/W Courtroom Drama that should be seen by everyone "Inherit the Wind"! Where "12 Angry Men" is about the fate of one young man, "Inherit the Wind" is about some pretty titanic issues! It's definitely worth a review!
There are several great court dramas from this period, all in black and white. This one of course. "Witness for the Prosecution" (1957), "Anatomy of a Murder" (1959), "Inherit the Wind" (1960)" and "Judgement at Nuremberg" (1961).
My 10th grade English teacher was kinda based. She had us read the Teleplay for this, then we read "Fahrenheit 451" a great civics lesson if anything. I hadn't watched the film in the 10yrs since then, but alot of the scenes were vert memorable
12 Angry Men was shown in a college class I was in. I grew up on classics and knew it well, but I wondered how the other students, much younger than I was, would respond. They were riveted, and groaned when it was shut off too soon because time had run out. I keep hearing people imply that movies before the 90's are not worth their notice, and it's tragic. If you haven't seen them: To Kill A Mockingbird ('63) - Breaking Away ('79) - Sullivan's Travels ('41) - The Apartment ('60)
What makes 12 Angry Men superior is how listening and respect are important to intellectual progress. Imo, Reasonable Doubt could have prevented numerous false guilty verdicts. Alex and Josh I enjoy your channel because of the Siskel/Ebert style of listening to opposing opinion, while respecting your viewers and each other.
I am a lawyer, though I don’t do a lot of criminal defense work. Public defender is a good way for a new lawyer that wants to do criminal defense to get experience and meet the DA’s, judges, etc. Public defenders are not bad lawyers, the ones that have been there a while know the system very well, but they are very overloaded with work, and they don’t have a lot of time to spend on each defendant. They don’t have a lot of time to come up with great or novel arguments that are not clear from the evidence or unless the defendant directs them to make such arguments.
Good summation of the difficulties faced by a public defender. I was one for several years. I represented over 1,000 defendants each year (including over 100 trials each year) which was, and is, an average public defender caseload. I had no investigator to gather evidence and had to depend on the defendant to obtain witnesses/evidence. The individuals accused of crimes and unable to afford more focused and resourced representation are not well served by the very minimal system afforded them.
Great discussion guys. I like this twist of yours where you just discuss rather than show the reaction. I've seen multiple reactions to this excellent movie so I don't need to see another one to appreciate your discussion. But you were talking about the multiple eye witness testimonies stacking the deck against the defendant, and it made me me think of the movie My Cousin Vinny. If you've never seen that one it is REALLY worth reacting to. It's a great courtroom drama, and it's got some hilarious comedic scenes in it as well. And a topnotch cast as well.
first of all LOVE the black and white - agree this is an excellent movie for so many reasons - for me the cast is so stellar - my fav is jack warden, juror number 7 - committed to almost nothing but making his living and watching the game - somehow to me he represents so many in our country who don't understand the importance of our privileges and why they make us who we aspire to be - i once had a judge say juror duty is only slightly better than paying taxes but equally necessary for America to be the best we can - thanks for your review
As a person in my 60s I didn't see this until later in life BUT I recognized at least 10 of the actors from other roles. A great cast and a great story. I also appreciate that they didn't wrap up the story. It was told from the POV of jury members and clarified their role in the process.
I had always heard of this movie, but when I finally saw it all the way through, it lived up to its praises. A rarity. That said, I'm pretty sure this is that movie I started to watch midway through one weekend on TV as a kid thinking it was a Twilight Zone rerun (because of Jack Klugman) I hadn't seen and when I fanally realized there wasn't any sci fi twist coming, I turned the channel is disgust. Probably for the best; I don't kniw that I could've fully appreciated it then and it'd have spoiled the ending.
@@targetaudience As I mentioned on Patreon, five of the twelve jurors appeared on The Twilight Zone. Jack Klugman was the one you recognized immediately, probably because he did four Twilight Zone episodes.
I was forced to watch this movie in high school, early 90s, in a 'Criminal & Civil Law' elective class. It's been in my top movies of all time list since then. It's practically perfect. There are a couple other versions that exist, the original 50s teleplay/TV version that is about an hour long, and the TV movie version from the late 90s. All three are great, but this original theatrical version is easily the best.
I loved this movie, until it was ruined for me by an essay written by a lawyer. He points out that if the defendant is actually innocent, he’s the unluckiest SOB who ever lived. It just so happens that he had a fight with his father on the night he was murdered? And he coincidentally lost his knife, which is identical to the murder weapon? And he has no alibi? No ticket stub for the movie? Can’t remember who was in it or what it was about?
I'm glad you appreciated the movie. I was concerned the younger generation wouldn't appreciate a movie without all the special effects flashiness and super fast pacing. As an older person I sometimes think there is so much going on in a short amount of time in newer movies that I can't find or appreciate nuance or sit with an idea. It seems to me that newer movies are more about an adrenaline rush. But I also noticed that my brain. has changed watching newer movies. After not watching old movies and only watching newer movies for an extended time, I find myself being impatient with older entertainment when I go back to it.
My favorite juror is #11, the immigrant. He is so sweet, principled, and truly devoted to the ideals of justice and fairness, and yet he can really deliver a snarky cutdown that is barely veiled in politeness.
I encourage you guys to react to more movies from the technicolor and B&W era! I recommend "Rear Window" and "Rope" if you want a "12 Angry Men" nearly all filmed in one room experience! I also recommend "North by Northwest" (odd, these are all him Alfred Hitchcock movies🤔)!
I worked for public defender attorneys for 30 years They worked their butts off for their clients. I was asked many questions about defense attorneys and why they represent these defendants. Many people don’t understand the role that defense attorneys play in the judicial system. Defense attorneys keep the police in check, they keep the prosecutors in check, and the keep the courts in check. Without defense attorneys, the police, the prosecutors and the courts could do whatever they want. Defense attorneys are there to make sure that people’s constitutional rights are protected and to preserve everything needed for the appellate courts.
I am thrilled that you guys liked this film. I became aware of it when I was attending film school. I was blown away to see a brilliant movie that used basically one location. This film changed my entire mindset about movie making.
I was aware of this movie for a long time. About 10 years ago, I watched it on a whim on regular broadcast TV. Loved it. Bought a physical copy of the movie. As soon it arrived, watched it again. Just a great, infinitely rewatchable movie. I don't know if you noticed, but the camera angle starts out above the characters and slowly moves lower until it is looking up at the characters towards the end.
The knife reveal is a great movie moment...but unfortunately, it also creates a big problem. Juries are not supposed to do their own research during trials, and are specifically told not to do so. After all, what do we know about this knife? Is it one of only two such knives in the whole city? Did the store owner buy it from the suspect? The attorneys don't have the opportunity to investigate this evidence introduced outside of trial. Juror #8, by bringing in the knife, could trigger a mistrial.
I was quite surprised to see this video on such a classic film. I had watched this movie quite some time ago. It's a brilliant film and very well acted. I'm so glad you found this movie so interesting and enjoyable.
it would be a mistake to suppose that all of us old coots only like safe quaint movies. From the dawn of cinema, we have loved gripping, moving, challenging films -- perhaps too rarely, but we have, so I hope we can help grow your lists of favorites. By the by, you may notice Lee J. Cobb's completely different role as the police detective in The Exorcist, and Fonda ... Fonda has been in so many great movies. Incidentally, my mother served as a juror in a murder case, and she found it all to be sad, just sad.
Before watching, the title of this video made me think there was a super short cut of 12 Angry Men and i was like WHAT??? NO!!. Great discussion. They showed this movie in school back when i was a kid, it mostly kept everyone's attention im pretty sure. Absolute Classic
Thank you for liking this movie. I mean really liking it. It's one of my top five movies. I appreciate that Alex re-watched the movie by himself and could catch all the intricacies missed while watching the first time and talking through the movie. I have to show how much I appreciate that rewatch.
Originally written by Reginald Rose for a 1954 live broadcast television play for the anthology series "Studio 1." This is one of the best adaptations of a television play into a Hollywood film. Henry Fonda was the star, but this is filled with other great character actors and actors, like Jack Klugman, known mainly for television.
I think RUclips's algorithm is playing games with me. It just added this to my Home screen: Used Helicopter Sales Skit - from 1993 (Big Bob looks familiar)
12 Angry Men, Sherlock Holmes in a jury room. For me, this classic teaches the importance of logic and critical thlnking. Also, it teaches why we need to accept personal responsibility for each.other
Sidney Lumet (whose first film this was) made a career out of examining the American justice system. He directed such films as Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, The Verdict (a stunning performance by Paul Newman), Before the Devil Knows Your Dead, and Find Me Guilty, a fact-based film with a wonderful performance by (of all people) Vin Diesel.
So glad you watched this, and enjoyed it as much as you had. Always a lot of fun watching people discover it. *Recommendations I make every now and again:* *_The Fisher King_* (1991) Directed by _Terry Gilliam,_ with _Robin Williams_ & _Jeff Bridges._ *Spy Game* (2001) with *Brad Pitt* and *Robert Redford.* 🤠 The western *_Silverado_* (1985) is a *fun* western with a very young _Kevin Costner, Scott Glenn, Danny Glover, John Cleese, Jeff Goldblum, Kevin Kline_ and more. Written and directed by *_Lawrence Kasdan.¹_* Another Western worth watching IMO is *The Quick and the Dead* (1995) starring _Leonardo DiCaprio, Russell Crowe, Sharon Stone_ and _Gene Hackman._ Be well! 🙋🏼♂️ ··•●✺●•·· ¹ ─ Co-writer of the _Star Wars_ films _The Empire Strikes Back_ (1980), _Return of the Jedi_ (1983), and _The Force Awakens_ (2015). He also co-wrote _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ (1981).
Henry Fonda starred in another law-based drama: a 1980 made-for-tv movie called "Gideon's Trumpet." From Wikipedia - Gideon's Trumpet is a 1980 American made-for-television historical drama film based on the biographical book of the same name written by Anthony Lewis. The film depicts the historical events before and during the 1963 United States Supreme Court case of Gideon v. Wainwright that brought the right of an attorney to criminal defendants who could not afford it and did not meet special requirements to get one for free.
This movie is fantastic! The tv show The Dead Zone did a quite impressive episode that was basically their version of 12 Angry Men (the MC is a psychic who KNOWS the kid didn't do it but trying to figure out how to convince the others based on the evidence in front of them)
Another recommendation for Sidney Lumet's 1982 film, The Verdict, starring Paul Newman. It also features Juror Number 7, Jack Warden, in a strong supporting role.
Its A Wonderful Life - Poor George saves his brother, Savings and Loan, Uncle but about to go to jail. Casablanca. Sing Les Marseilles louder than the Germans visiting Vichy Morocco. Citizen Kane. Amalgamated biography of 3 newspaper publishers. Wizard Of Oz. Troubled girl knocked out by tornado dreams of Somewhere Over The Rainbow.
I love this movie! Just an odd piece of trivia. I watched the Exorcist many times. I just realized this week that Juror 3 is the detective in the Exorcist.
Guys, I’ve already mentioned to you that this is one of my all-time favorite classic movies. I hope you do the other favorite black-and-white movies of mine what’s funny is I don’t have any of my favorite black-and-white movies in my video library and I have quite an extensive big video library but I spend most of my time picking up current or classic television series And I only see myself I’m going to pick up my favorites eventually and I pick a day to do it and then I go in to the place where I buy most of my videos and I get distracted and I don’t end up buying. what are you going to buy? I got to stop that habit but I’m glad you guys enjoyed this one. It’s an all star cast , it was an all star cast when it was made and as it gets older and gets better look forward to seeing what you guys do next never heard of the one you’re going to review next, but that doesn’t mean anything to me I’ll give it a go and see if it’s as good as you guys say it is
LEE 👏 J 👏 COBB This man is Top Five in 20th century theater actors, but his films? Here ya go: Brothers Karamazov On the Waterfront Our Man Flint and the friggin EXORCIST!!
I really like the 1997 remake of this movie as well. The 1957 will always be the better of the two, but i have serious nostalgia for the one I saw when I was a kid. Plus, you get some awesome Edward James Olmos action, from my beloved Battlestar Galactica. Along with some other great actors as well ( not you Tony Danza lmao).
I like you guys having these discussions. It’s a cool Coda to seeing the movie. A question I had for you. I’ve never heard any reactors to this movie say they’ve seen this, so I wonder if you did. At the end, when Macardle and Davis introduce themselves and everyone is leaving, just before the fade out, on the far set of stairs you can see Juror number 3 walking slowly down the stairs, alone, with his head down. Not a big point, I just thought it was interesting to show that.
Great review! I don't think black and white was a choice at this point in time, or was it? I thought color was a thing of the late sixties... Anyway, have a great day!
Public defenders do become politicians so you may know some of them but as govenors and senators. I agree with everyone else the other court room drama filmed about this time is Inherit the Wind. Amazing performances.
One of the all time greats, glad you guys enjoyed it so much... wait, it didn’t break into Josh’s top 10 of all time?? Wth, man!! You’re a terrible person and you should feel bad! 😝 Also, loved the black and white for your own video. Really liking the little touches you’ve added in them.
Why do some people specifically younger people automatically assume any film made before the 1990s will automatically be of inferior quality? I suppose most schools don't teach Shakespeare or Charles Dickens or HG Wells or even Bible stories like Samson and Delilah or Cain and Abel. Regardless of modern technology or special effects if the STORY OR WRITING ARE INFERIOR then modern language or popular current trendy Slang or special effects technology CANNOT SAVE A CRAPPY POOR OR INFERIOR WRITTEN STORY. Doesn’t work like that. But don't pay me any mind. Gotta have great CGI to be a well written story according to many I suppose.
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The juror who showed how to use the switch blade has two fantastic TV series that you might want to try an episode of:
The comedic series, The Odd Couple, and the dramatic series Quincy.
Also, one of the 12 jurors had a major role in an episode of TOS Star Trek! You didn’t mention it so maybe you didn’t notice? He looks and sounds exactly the same. If you want to ponder on it, I will answer below.
Juror 2, the nerdy juror, played Jack the Ripper in Wolf in the Fold.
12 Angry Men is, without doubt a great movie, with a phenomenal cast!
If you get the chance (between TNG's, of course) I'd love to see your reactions to 1970's techno-thriller, "Colossus The Forbin Project". With all the talk of AI lately, you'll find it oddly prescient. Enjoy!
Henry Fonda REALLY wanted this movie to be made, to the point that he helped produce it. He also never actually got paid for it. But he still considered it one of his best, and favourite roles.
12 Angry Men (1957) is a masterpiece.
My favorite courtroom drama is 1982’s “The Verdict” directed by Sidney Lumet and starring Paul Newman, Charlotte Rampling, Jack Warden and James Mason. Newman plays an alcoholic, down on his luck Boston attorney who takes on a Catholic hospital in a medical malpractice case. It’s one of those movies that I’ll watch whenever it comes on TV. The scene where the maternity ward nurse breaks down on the stand always gives me the chills. Every actor is just phenomenal.
I would love to see Josh and Alex review "The Verdict."
The nurse was played by Lindsey Crouse, who was at the time married to David Mamet, who wrote the screenplay.
This should be required viewing for anyone who serves on a jury.
I still consider this the best courtroom film. Best war film? Bridge on the River Kwai. If you want another classic film that will challenge your top 10 list, this is one.
This was a movie I’ve avoided my entire life for some reason (I’m 60 years old now). I watched it for the first time about a year or so ago and I loved it. It’s such a powerful film with great cinematography and great performances all around. There’s a 1997 made for TV version directed by William Friedkin (“The Exorcist”) starring George C Scott, Ossie Davis, James Gandolfini and more. It’s almost as good as the original.
This was written for TV and performed by Robert Cummings for CBS in the role Fonda took when he produced it for theaters.
Juror 2 was Jack the Ripper on TOS and the voice of Piglet.
The last holdout, Juror 3, was the homicide detective in The Exorcist.
Juror 1 was the private detective in Psycho.
Jack Klugman was great in everything he did. Lots of great Twilight Zone episodes. He really deserved to be in more films but seemed used mostly in TV.
True. He was underrated.
Yay black and white 😊 Really happy we can show you some stuff you love. Hoping some future Star Trek episodes or movies will join the club :)
No explosions, no car chases, no CGI. Just a well written script performed by a great cast. Back when cinema was great and produced memorable films.
Cinema is still great and produces memorable films, there’s just more forgettable ones piled on top of them.
You guys need to watch more old movies. :) This is not to say that all old movies are good but that the ones that survive the test of time are exceptional. I hope your patreons have also suggested the likes of "The Searchers", "Casablanca", "Spartacus", "The Maltese Falcon", "To Be or Not to Be" (either version)... I could go on. :)
I like how you have different people from different backgrounds - how we can all see the same thing but don't SEE things. The eyeglass notches - how to use a switchblade. Things that others didn't see or didn't know about
this is a movie that can inform people about the current American political debate
that's one way you know this is true art....it is both a product of its time and timeless
this is a movie about AMERICA, about how AMERICA "works"
how we can all get along, even if we can't stand to be near each other
THAT'S AMERICA
They’re not jury movies, but some other classic black and white movies I’d like to recommend Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, Seven Samurai, Rashomon (heh, I’m doubling up on my Bogart and Kurosawa), Dr Strangelove, off the top of my head.
A Great B/W Courtroom Drama that should be seen by everyone "Inherit the Wind"! Where "12 Angry Men" is about the fate of one young man, "Inherit the Wind" is about some pretty titanic issues! It's definitely worth a review!
There are several great court dramas from this period, all in black and white.
This one of course. "Witness for the Prosecution" (1957), "Anatomy of a Murder" (1959), "Inherit the Wind" (1960)" and "Judgement at Nuremberg" (1961).
Thanks for the recommendations!
Yeah a personal fav of mine is Inherit the Wind. Good call on these.
@@IceKnight81 It's my favorite film of all time. Been a Spencer Tracy fan since I was a kid.
I’d put “To Kill A Mockingbird” on the list too.
@@targetaudience You'll recognize one of the supporting actors in "Judgment at Nuremberg."
My 10th grade English teacher was kinda based. She had us read the Teleplay for this, then we read "Fahrenheit 451" a great civics lesson if anything. I hadn't watched the film in the 10yrs since then, but alot of the scenes were vert memorable
12 Angry Men was shown in a college class I was in. I grew up on classics and knew it well, but I wondered how the other students, much younger than I was, would respond. They were riveted, and groaned when it was shut off too soon because time had run out. I keep hearing people imply that movies before the 90's are not worth their notice, and it's tragic. If you haven't seen them: To Kill A Mockingbird ('63) - Breaking Away ('79) - Sullivan's Travels ('41) - The Apartment ('60)
What makes 12 Angry Men superior is how listening and respect are important to intellectual progress. Imo, Reasonable Doubt could have prevented numerous false guilty verdicts. Alex and Josh I enjoy your channel because of the Siskel/Ebert style of listening to opposing opinion, while respecting your viewers and each other.
I am a lawyer, though I don’t do a lot of criminal defense work. Public defender is a good way for a new lawyer that wants to do criminal defense to get experience and meet the DA’s, judges, etc. Public defenders are not bad lawyers, the ones that have been there a while know the system very well, but they are very overloaded with work, and they don’t have a lot of time to spend on each defendant. They don’t have a lot of time to come up with great or novel arguments that are not clear from the evidence or unless the defendant directs them to make such arguments.
Good to know!
Good summation of the difficulties faced by a public defender. I was one for several years. I represented over 1,000 defendants each year (including over 100 trials each year) which was, and is, an average public defender caseload. I had no investigator to gather evidence and had to depend on the defendant to obtain witnesses/evidence. The individuals accused of crimes and unable to afford more focused and resourced representation are not well served by the very minimal system afforded them.
Great discussion guys. I like this twist of yours where you just discuss rather than show the reaction. I've seen multiple reactions to this excellent movie so I don't need to see another one to appreciate your discussion. But you were talking about the multiple eye witness testimonies stacking the deck against the defendant, and it made me me think of the movie My Cousin Vinny. If you've never seen that one it is REALLY worth reacting to. It's a great courtroom drama, and it's got some hilarious comedic scenes in it as well. And a topnotch cast as well.
first of all LOVE the black and white - agree this is an excellent movie for so many reasons - for me the cast is so stellar - my fav is jack warden, juror number 7 - committed to almost nothing but making his living and watching the game - somehow to me he represents so many in our country who don't understand the importance of our privileges and why they make us who we aspire to be - i once had a judge say juror duty is only slightly better than paying taxes but equally necessary for America to be the best we can - thanks for your review
As a person in my 60s I didn't see this until later in life BUT I recognized at least 10 of the actors from other roles. A great cast and a great story. I also appreciate that they didn't wrap up the story. It was told from the POV of jury members and clarified their role in the process.
I had always heard of this movie, but when I finally saw it all the way through, it lived up to its praises. A rarity. That said, I'm pretty sure this is that movie I started to watch midway through one weekend on TV as a kid thinking it was a Twilight Zone rerun (because of Jack Klugman) I hadn't seen and when I fanally realized there wasn't any sci fi twist coming, I turned the channel is disgust. Probably for the best; I don't kniw that I could've fully appreciated it then and it'd have spoiled the ending.
We commented while watching the movie that we recognized many of the actors from The Twilight Zone so that makes sense!
@@targetaudience As I mentioned on Patreon, five of the twelve jurors appeared on The Twilight Zone. Jack Klugman was the one you recognized immediately, probably because he did four Twilight Zone episodes.
I was forced to watch this movie in high school, early 90s, in a 'Criminal & Civil Law' elective class. It's been in my top movies of all time list since then. It's practically perfect. There are a couple other versions that exist, the original 50s teleplay/TV version that is about an hour long, and the TV movie version from the late 90s. All three are great, but this original theatrical version is easily the best.
I hope there are some TNG episodes that show a trial or courtroom drama that is as exciting as this. 🖖
I... I want to say something so terribly.
@@Vulcanerd Me Too! ..... But No!
No comment 😂🤣
One of the films I like and I am glad you two have seen it and enjoy it as well.
Quality writing, acting and cinematography.
The TV movie remake with Jack Lemmon and George C. Scott is worth a watch.
Great movie choice, and I agree 100% with your reaction. Keep up the good work.
I dig it for the chase scenes, and the explosions. Definitely the explosions.
Also, the musical numbers are fantastic.
I loved this movie, until it was ruined for me by an essay written by a lawyer. He points out that if the defendant is actually innocent, he’s the unluckiest SOB who ever lived. It just so happens that he had a fight with his father on the night he was murdered? And he coincidentally lost his knife, which is identical to the murder weapon? And he has no alibi? No ticket stub for the movie? Can’t remember who was in it or what it was about?
I'm glad you appreciated the movie. I was concerned the younger generation wouldn't appreciate a movie without all the special effects flashiness and super fast pacing.
As an older person I sometimes think there is so much going on in a short amount of time in newer movies that I can't find or appreciate nuance or sit with an idea. It seems to me that newer movies are more about an adrenaline rush.
But I also noticed that my brain. has changed watching newer movies. After not watching old movies and only watching newer movies for an extended time, I find myself being impatient with older entertainment when I go back to it.
My favorite juror is #11, the immigrant. He is so sweet, principled, and truly devoted to the ideals of justice and fairness, and yet he can really deliver a snarky cutdown that is barely veiled in politeness.
I encourage you guys to react to more movies from the technicolor and B&W era! I recommend "Rear Window" and "Rope" if you want a "12 Angry Men" nearly all filmed in one room experience! I also recommend "North by Northwest" (odd, these are all him Alfred Hitchcock movies🤔)!
I worked for public defender attorneys for 30 years They worked their butts off for their clients. I was asked many questions about defense attorneys and why they represent these defendants. Many people don’t understand the role that defense attorneys play in the judicial system. Defense attorneys keep the police in check, they keep the prosecutors in check, and the keep the courts in check. Without defense attorneys, the police, the prosecutors and the courts could do whatever they want. Defense attorneys are there to make sure that people’s constitutional rights are protected and to preserve everything needed for the appellate courts.
Bringing outside evidence into the deliberations is textbook juror misconduct and must not be condoned.😂😂
I am thrilled that you guys liked this film. I became aware of it when I was attending film school. I was blown away to see a brilliant movie that used basically one location. This film changed my entire mindset about movie making.
I was aware of this movie for a long time. About 10 years ago, I watched it on a whim on regular broadcast TV. Loved it. Bought a physical copy of the movie. As soon it arrived, watched it again. Just a great, infinitely rewatchable movie. I don't know if you noticed, but the camera angle starts out above the characters and slowly moves lower until it is looking up at the characters towards the end.
The knife reveal is a great movie moment...but unfortunately, it also creates a big problem. Juries are not supposed to do their own research during trials, and are specifically told not to do so. After all, what do we know about this knife? Is it one of only two such knives in the whole city? Did the store owner buy it from the suspect? The attorneys don't have the opportunity to investigate this evidence introduced outside of trial. Juror #8, by bringing in the knife, could trigger a mistrial.
The Ed Wood joke at the start: 👏👏👏🤣😂
pure Strasberg Method Acting
every actor has a head cannon for his character
they are behaving instead of acting
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I was quite surprised to see this video on such a classic film. I had watched this movie quite some time ago. It's a brilliant film and very well acted. I'm so glad you found this movie so interesting and enjoyable.
it would be a mistake to suppose that all of us old coots only like safe quaint movies. From the dawn of cinema, we have loved gripping, moving, challenging films -- perhaps too rarely, but we have, so I hope we can help grow your lists of favorites. By the by, you may notice Lee J. Cobb's completely different role as the police detective in The Exorcist, and Fonda ... Fonda has been in so many great movies. Incidentally, my mother served as a juror in a murder case, and she found it all to be sad, just sad.
Before watching, the title of this video made me think there was a super short cut of 12 Angry Men and i was like WHAT??? NO!!. Great discussion.
They showed this movie in school back when i was a kid, it mostly kept everyone's attention im pretty sure. Absolute Classic
A masterful movie. It know when’s enough.
Next best courtroom movie: My Cousin Vinny
Thank you for liking this movie. I mean really liking it. It's one of my top five movies. I appreciate that Alex re-watched the movie by himself and could catch all the intricacies missed while watching the first time and talking through the movie. I have to show how much I appreciate that rewatch.
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You need to see Judgement at Nuremberg. Best acted movie of all time! Even the bit actors like Judy Garland were amazing!
If you like Lee J. Cobb, have you checked out On The Waterfront?
Originally written by Reginald Rose for a 1954 live broadcast television play for the anthology series "Studio 1." This is one of the best adaptations of a television play into a Hollywood film. Henry Fonda was the star, but this is filled with other great character actors and actors, like Jack Klugman, known mainly for television.
I think RUclips's algorithm is playing games with me. It just added this to my Home screen: Used Helicopter Sales Skit - from 1993 (Big Bob looks familiar)
ya'll would probably like alfred hitchock's "Rope" too, very good
12 Angry Men, Sherlock Holmes in a jury room. For me, this classic teaches the importance of logic and critical thlnking. Also, it teaches why we need to accept personal responsibility for each.other
Sidney Lumet (whose first film this was) made a career out of examining the American justice system. He directed such films as Serpico, Dog Day Afternoon, The Verdict (a stunning performance by Paul Newman), Before the Devil Knows Your Dead, and Find Me Guilty, a fact-based film with a wonderful performance by (of all people) Vin Diesel.
So glad you watched this, and enjoyed it as much as you had. Always a lot of fun watching people discover it.
*Recommendations I make every now and again:*
*_The Fisher King_* (1991) Directed by _Terry Gilliam,_ with _Robin Williams_ & _Jeff Bridges._
*Spy Game* (2001) with *Brad Pitt* and *Robert Redford.*
🤠 The western *_Silverado_* (1985) is a *fun* western with a very young _Kevin Costner, Scott Glenn, Danny Glover, John Cleese, Jeff Goldblum, Kevin Kline_ and more. Written and directed by *_Lawrence Kasdan.¹_*
Another Western worth watching IMO is *The Quick and the Dead* (1995) starring _Leonardo DiCaprio, Russell Crowe, Sharon Stone_ and _Gene Hackman._
Be well! 🙋🏼♂️
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¹ ─ Co-writer of the _Star Wars_ films _The Empire Strikes Back_ (1980), _Return of the Jedi_ (1983), and _The Force Awakens_ (2015). He also co-wrote _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ (1981).
Another great Black and white movie for a good discussion is.
The Oxbow Incident (1943)
Love this movie AND Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. Also To Kill a Mockingbird.
Both of those are classics!
Excellent movie. Check out Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Cool Hand Luke and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Probably my top three.
Great video on an all time great movie ,love Lee J cobb, highly recommend on the waterfront for anyone that's not seen it
The 1997 remake is excellent, too. All star cast including Jack Lemmon and George C Scott. Highly recommend.
This is my third-favorite movie of all time. It's pretty hard to beat this one
Henry Fonda starred in another law-based drama: a 1980 made-for-tv movie called "Gideon's Trumpet."
From Wikipedia -
Gideon's Trumpet is a 1980 American made-for-television historical drama film based on the biographical book of the same name written by Anthony Lewis. The film depicts the historical events before and during the 1963 United States Supreme Court case of Gideon v. Wainwright that brought the right of an attorney to criminal defendants who could not afford it and did not meet special requirements to get one for free.
This movie is fantastic! The tv show The Dead Zone did a quite impressive episode that was basically their version of 12 Angry Men (the MC is a psychic who KNOWS the kid didn't do it but trying to figure out how to convince the others based on the evidence in front of them)
Henry Fonda's foil is juror #4. NOT #3. Juror #3 is the Antagonist. There's a difference. There's a difference between an antagonist and a foil.
Another recommendation for Sidney Lumet's 1982 film, The Verdict, starring Paul Newman. It also features Juror Number 7, Jack Warden, in a strong supporting role.
Certainly not watching the discussion without a reaction.
Good for you 👍🏻
Its A Wonderful Life - Poor George saves his brother, Savings and Loan, Uncle but about to go to jail.
Casablanca. Sing Les Marseilles louder than the Germans visiting Vichy Morocco.
Citizen Kane. Amalgamated biography of 3 newspaper publishers.
Wizard Of Oz. Troubled girl knocked out by tornado dreams of Somewhere Over The Rainbow.
I love this movie! Just an odd piece of trivia. I watched the Exorcist many times. I just realized this week that Juror 3 is the detective in the Exorcist.
A great take is the remake, George C Scott and Jack Lemon are top tier in it !
Guys, I’ve already mentioned to you that this is one of my all-time favorite classic movies. I hope you do the other favorite black-and-white movies of mine what’s funny is I don’t have any of my favorite black-and-white movies in my video library and I have quite an extensive big video library but I spend most of my time picking up current or classic television series And I only see myself I’m going to pick up my favorites eventually and I pick a day to do it and then I go in to the place where I buy most of my videos and I get distracted and I don’t end up buying. what are you going to buy? I got to stop that habit but I’m glad you guys enjoyed this one. It’s an all star cast , it was an all star cast when it was made and as it gets older and gets better look forward to seeing what you guys do next never heard of the one you’re going to review next, but that doesn’t mean anything to me I’ll give it a go and see if it’s as good as you guys say it is
Yay more Mike Flanagan next?!
Can't wait!
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This man is Top Five in 20th century theater actors, but his films? Here ya go:
Brothers Karamazov
On the Waterfront
Our Man Flint
and the friggin EXORCIST!!
This is a really good movie. It's like "the Breakfast Club," but for even older people.😂
Hilarious comparison but I see what you mean
When are you going to review the original Planet of the Apes in 1968 with Charleston Heston. You will be impressed.
I really like the 1997 remake of this movie as well. The 1957 will always be the better of the two, but i have serious nostalgia for the one I saw when I was a kid. Plus, you get some awesome Edward James Olmos action, from my beloved Battlestar Galactica. Along with some other great actors as well ( not you Tony Danza lmao).
The film holds up.
One person can make a difference.
I like you guys having these discussions. It’s a cool Coda to seeing the movie. A question I had for you. I’ve never heard any reactors to this movie say they’ve seen this, so I wonder if you did. At the end, when Macardle and Davis introduce themselves and everyone is leaving, just before the fade out, on the far set of stairs you can see Juror number 3 walking slowly down the stairs, alone, with his head down. Not a big point, I just thought it was interesting to show that.
Did you say Star Trek? John Fiedler played Hengist in Wolf in the Fold.
If you loved this one, I hope you'll watch To Kill a Mockingbird, if you haven't already. My favorite book and such a classic movie!
Read it and watched it in high school. A classic!
Juror number 3 was the original Willy Loman in Death of a Salesman
A Comedy/Romance that you may like is The Quiet Man by John Ford starring John Wayne and Maureen O'Hare.
There's a book called The Devil and Daniel Webster. My favorite courtroom drama. Not sure if there's a movie adaptation
There is! (sometimes titled 'All That Money Can Buy') Walter Huston is great in the role of Scratch.
Great review!
I don't think black and white was a choice at this point in time, or was it? I thought color was a thing of the late sixties...
Anyway, have a great day!
Public defenders do become politicians so you may know some of them but as govenors and senators.
I agree with everyone else the other court room drama filmed about this time is Inherit the Wind. Amazing performances.
If you liked the character points of view of the film you should watch Rashamon as well
How about a great Hitchcock movie.... "Rear Window" (1954) ... "Vertigo" (1958).... "North By Northwest" (1959) ... "The Birds" (1963) Classics all.
Try Marty(1955).
I prefer the dark grey one too
Without an Eye Witness everything else is circumstantial.
You might like to try 'Breaker Morant' another great 'trial' movie.
I’m not a fan. I feel like the jury was making up its own evidence and could not buy that a jury would, or would be allowed to, act like they do.
One of the all time greats, glad you guys enjoyed it so much... wait, it didn’t break into Josh’s top 10 of all time?? Wth, man!! You’re a terrible person and you should feel bad!
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Also, loved the black and white for your own video. Really liking the little touches you’ve added in them.
Unpopular opinion I like the sequel, 12 Angry Men and a Baby
And the T.V. sitcom adaptation...12 1/2 Angry Men.
Wacky Fun!
You won't believe who directed 12 Angry Men and a Baby...
Really for your channy 2001 A spar Odessey
Why do some people specifically younger people automatically assume any film made before the 1990s will automatically be of inferior quality? I suppose most schools don't teach Shakespeare or Charles Dickens or HG Wells or even Bible stories like Samson and Delilah or Cain and Abel. Regardless of modern technology or special effects if the STORY OR WRITING ARE INFERIOR then modern language or popular current trendy Slang or special effects technology CANNOT SAVE A CRAPPY POOR OR INFERIOR WRITTEN STORY. Doesn’t work like that.
But don't pay me any mind. Gotta have great CGI to be a well written story according to many I suppose.
Sci fi genre Bladerunner dirictors cut 1982
The little git was as guilty as sin.
They are pretty angry 😠 😡