Thanks for sharing these ancient sites with us and also for not disclosing their locations. Some of the petroglyphs have been defaced by those that cannot see past their own pleasure. There is a group of people here in Nevada that catalog, photograph and sketch the ancient drawings in an effort to preserve and protect them from the disrespectful.
I looked into it and the glyphs are only about 2 hours from where I live, but even if people were to go to them you aren't allowed to see them, it's on a reservation and only tribe members are allowed to see them in person.
I'm a Cherokee indian from Oklahoma. Things like this makes me sad. Because I've always wondered what it would have been like to have lived like my ancestors. Looking out from those dwellings onto the valley us so beautiful. Imagine looking out and seeing as far as you can see the buffalo and other wild game grazing. Must have been breath taking. Thanks for the video.
Roverman, thanks for watching and your comments. I also share your sense of wonder of the beauty of the lands as I trek through the wilderness visiting these ancient sites.............alex
I wonder though. By their standards of the day would they consider modern Indian peoples rich? Imagine going down to the beautiful lake that was once there and if you could not capture game or fish that day your family would go hungry. This is a great video. The symbols are CARVED into the rock instead of painted. Very time consuming.
I'm in northern Michigan and feel the same way! We are blind to technology and greed is consuming the earth! I wish I could just hunt, fish and grow food and make my own time schedule
Look into an Out Bound program, (if it still exists). Try it for a week, then evaluate your ideas. Canada is full of undeveloped areas, so the opportunity is there if you want it. Good luck.
This was so completely honest, straightforward and lacking in the usual false-dramatization that accompanies so called scholarly productions these days. Thank you very much. No doubt the ice age left a more habitable Nevada than we now see.
Very amazing and interesting. A modern day countertop and grinding stone from way back. Loved the flute sounding as a way gone time adding to the enlightened ways from those before us in this modern day. ♥️♥️
I took a tour with an archaeologist and a historian, in Utah. They were involved in a survey of ancient native American sites. In addition to the petroglyphs and pictographs that were out in the open, they showed me many hidden pictographs that were several thousands of years old. It was awe inspiring to realize just how long these drawings had survived.
Loved this. I got to go back in time again and imagine how the shelters might have looked with grass mats and cooking fires, hides being scrapped and hanging.
Very good that you don't give up the precise location of this national treasure. I used to live in Nevada and I found many spots where the Old Ones who used to live in the desert used for chipping flakes from the obsidian and flint to make points for their weapons and tools. Literally waist high heaps of flakes and other debris from the manufacturing of their stone cutlery... Most of these places are covered by tire tracks and broken glass as well as other trash people who have no respect for the ancient sites, have left behind...I personally didn't tell anyone else about the places I found, but obviously others had been frequenting the same areas and using it as a partying location.. I was living in the Armagosa area around the old Bullfrog mines and whatever was left of the town of Rhyolite,near the little hole called Beatty. Much more exist outside that area from the distant pre white man prospecting invasion during the late 1800's and still goes on today,.. Some of these sites are on privately owned land and well managed and protected... Much more is on the Free Range public lands fair game to all who have four wheeler transportation... Beware if you decide to go out there.There are very deep mine shafts that are in unexpected places, camouflaged by brush and other debris.. People who are not aware of the dangerous territory have been lost by driving into some open pits...Many people who have gone missing out there have never been found.Some of those pits are over 200 feet deep.. I haven't been back in the area for over 40years,and since finding out how seriously radioactive that whole section of the wilderness is, I'll never go back... It's local common knowledge that from The Beatty area stretching north and east through the government test site, it's seriously"hot"...
West of Beatty NV and spread across the vast onthe desert pavement adjacent to the hwy leading across Armagosa valley to daylight pass are open air sites of great antiquity. No sleeping circles or other identifiable occupational sites, but the pavement holds some incredible examples of large stones that have been knapped like they were being tested for their quality. so maybe an ancient surface quarry as all the stones embedded in the desert pavement are cobbles of all sizes fist size to basketball size. so the test flutes really stand out, I have found some what I would consider finished or near finished tools, usually unifacial and crude yet of obvious human manufacture/ alteration with very thick & heavy surface patina, some of the cobbles are semi precious gemstone or fine quartzite that are literally black with patina and very dark brown patina where they have been fluted, the bottom sides often are bright natural color of the stone or stained orange like so many cobbles on these ancient cobble covered desert pavements that usually are found at the terminus of defunct alluvial fans leading to Pleistocene /pluvial lakes and river terraces.
Thank you Alex. The last time I saw anything even remotely like this was at the summit of Haleakala on Maui. There are shelters at the summit where the ancient Hawaiian warriors sheltered while making stone tools and there are flint pieces that have been worked, but weren't quite right so were abandoned. I didn't see any petroglyphs, but I have seen them elsewhere on Maui, O'ahu and Big Island. These in Nevada are so striking. They remind me of carvings on Aztec pyramids. This lake wasn't always dry so climate change affected their life there.
That is a great rock shelter. You're out of the rain and wind in many directions. Australian Aboriginals used them until very recently. Probably still do. Petraglyhs of fish from the lake. Awesome.
I sure hope you had permission to go on our reservation, but I think not since our Tribe is trying to protect this location. Please exclude this if you haven't.
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. By far the most inspiring video I have seen in a while! This has made my week, these shelter sites look like there from another planet. It's so interesting to me to think about sites like this and what life was like for Ancient Man, I would love to travel in time and sit around for a night by the fire with these Ancient Men and Women.
0:56 - the giant fish is truly amazing. Especially since it resembles a carp. The eye, fin and scales are clearly visible, and it is HUGE! I also think there are big fins facing vertically on the rocks next to it. The lake disappeared in the 1930s. Must have been good fishing.
that moment, at 5:50 where you are coming up to the red paintings, theres something about that whole rock facing that makes it POP out almost like its 3D, it almost gave me motion sickness looking at it the first time.
I lived in Nevada for 22 + years we used to go off reading almost every weekend, and we would come across petroglyphs quite frequently. These are spectacular he best ones I think I’ve ever scene! There are quite a collection in Southern Nevada too, while they are all in one area, hundreds of them, they don’t compare to the intricate designs I’m seeing here. Are these feathers or fish scales? What do you see?
If you did the drugs they did, you’d see similar designs. The swirls and spirals are common throughout the world. The visual perspective effects of certain drugs on the brain is universal.
Felt as though I were in Petra of No America. So fascinating and with your wonderful narration the feeling of wonderment is enhanced ten-fold. Thanks for keeping the location discrete Alex. There aren't many visitors into the NV outback and those who do go generally appreciate the environment. The past year has been oddly kind to the NV desert region in supplying more water than normal. Have really enjoyed the added color. Very well done!
Always curious when people say this is older ,oldest this is this many years old or that many years old.When I research dating techniques they always involve assumption s and questionable "facts".Remain skeptical of things that are not based on eyewitness accounts.
What happened to the Native People was not an accident die to weather or climate change. The government diverted their water sources, starving and hunting them out with the Relocation Act of 1863. They had a $5 bounty for a Native scalp. Most man-made lakes are hiding Native camps and villages. The Calvary used dynamite and high-pressure water cannons to try to erase the existence of the Indigenous People. Watch "60 Minutes, Iran's Garden of Eden". It shows the extent people went through to erase people they considered undesirable.
Have you been to the sky rock petroglyph in the Bishop CA area? It took me a while and lots if searching but I have finally found it. Would be interesting if you knew any thing about what they might mean.
Someone was a good artist. One thing that sort of irritates me about Native American relics is the assumption that they're holy somehow. I'm a Native American. Sometimes they are holy, but sometimes they're not. The Native Americans I know are playful. They like to have fun. It's possible that this guy was a really good graffiti artist. He/she clearly liked their cave. He/she decorated it beautifully. Thank you for preserving it.
I grew up in this region and there's been a large degree of vandalism in recent decades, people shooting the petroglyphs, stealing artifacts, basically just being terrible. I'll not divulge where these are, but it is close to a town where going out to shoot, drink, and 4-wheel (all combined) it's very common. I was a local, but most locals really didn't care about these amazing sites. They're not protected or secured in any way and that needs to change before they're gone.
"where roads are made i lose my way" - tagore hearing "i don't know" was awesome. epistemology has always done me better than knowing. where there is certainty, consideration is absent. without knowing, its much easier to observe what you don't know about, seeing all the faces at points i was unsurprised to see the grinder find your hand. :)
What is your opinion when he has scientific proof of it being an estimated 14,000 years old. It’s literally the oldest known Petroglyph site in North America. Are you feeling okay?
agreed. the proof is study the Safire Project and instant vitrification. when using “standard” dating methods, they assume (incorrectly) that there is a steady rate of decay whereby you can trust that certain isotopes will take X number of years to breakdown. this assumption ignores that intense electrical bombardment or a solar micronova or other external source can create an instantaneous isotopic change, rendering most if not all of these techs functionally useless.
I will try to find more on the dating. Keep in mind the age of the carbonates does not give the age of the petroglyphs combined with it would have been continued to be used for along period and the items laying around could be the last habitation not the first. I will look into it-I know where it is of course.
Nevada is also where they found Spirit Cave Man. During the Ice Age, most of Nevada was covered by vast lakes, now dry. At that time, Nevada was not desert, but wetlands teaming with game animals.
The same x-pattern (or zig-zag-pattern) and spirals can be found in Newgrange in Ireland (about 5000 years old). If there was no direct, physical connection between these people than these petroglyphs must have had common spiritual sources.
Many of these "symbols," as we have interpreted them, have been identified as atmospheric plasma shapes that would accompany a major CME event. That suggests that rather than a "spiritual" connection, the cave dwellers were describing the atmospheric disturbances that drove them into the caves in the first place... the connection? Global catastrophe.
It's proposed that the recurrence of the same styled rock around the world are because various cultures throughout history used psychogenic mushrooms for their vision quests. Here's a great article about hallucinogens and Rock Art... Hallucinogens and Rock Art - Altered states of consciousness in the Palaeolithic period By Eva Hopman www.academia.edu/download/9018665/jagersverzamelaars_essay_ECHopman.doc
I often wonder if sites like this were possibly places where tribal members were banished to for a while - say, if they had to be isolated due to illness or punishment. Or maybe just camping out there waiting for game. I wonder if most petroglyphs were made by people who simply had a lot of time on their hands and not much to do while waiting for something.
Yeah, makes you wonder about the ultimate meaning and circumstances of these individuals so long ago...it had to take quite a while to sit there with a stone and peck in these amazing petroglyphs...
I get where you are coming from but I think you view it too much from today's world. I mean even nowadays some people have lots of free time (work part time or are millionaire) but spent time online or surfing or golfing etc. But that is now. And 10,000 years ago there were no office or walmart of mc donalds jobs. Just living in nature. If people had found a prey they would have food for days and yes maybe have a day off just walking around making paintings. Also, climate/rain circumstances has changed in some areas over the last 10,000 years. You can't assume the weather then was the same. But yes it is fascinating to think about this :)
@@RIXRADvidz im not talking about land ownership bro !!!! im talking about SQUATTER MAN or STICK MAN what ever u want to call it its carved into stone all around the world and its very ancient
At about 9:33 next to the large flat stone there is a little round stone with a hole in it. Could it be part of a necklace or bracelet someone was making? Or is just a round stone with a hole in it? Thanks for not telling exactly where your locations are.
I know this is one of your older videos but I just saw it. Wow! I've never seen that style of petroglypf before. Do you know of the petroglyphs just east of Lone Pine? They are on the old high water stand of Owens Lake on the north side.
storiesbyalex Alex, if you have a non public way to contact you I can tell you how to get there. Its been vandalized already and it should stay as secret as possible. Thanks!
Thanks for watching and your comments. The petroglyphs are actually placed onto boulders know as tufa, which is a form of limestone. Pre- lake Lahontan would make them 75,000 years old, which is not the case according to scientific testing........................alex
I think that it was a fire pit, and that is the place that where the were staying for an extended length of time. A fire pit in that spot would allow the heat to be held in that area, with probably a man-made structure on the other side, to hold heat in, as well as a good protection against animals coming up on them at night. A fire pit would be that large around if they were trying to stop the fire from spreading to the dry grass near it, they would have had to dig up the grass on the inside of the round circle, and try to make sure that it was wide enough where the grass was pulled up by the fire to keep it from getting out of the fire ring. The rocks were probably used to prop up wood with meat on it getting it ready to eat, or smoking it.
That would be a good way to utilize this area as a campground. There would be the potential for thousands of birds migrating to and from the this area when the water levels could support them.
If you want to know what the pictographs are depicting, look into Anthony Peratt and his discovery of petroglyphs and their relationship to plasma physics.
@@GAVACHO5150 watch revalation of the pyramids,or viper tv,sumerian tablets. we,were created by an alien race,,not god.. hindu vedas talk of 3 alien races fighting for possession of earth. 2 against 1 bad race. the asteroid belt,was,,a planet.. mars was nuked,same as sodom & gomorrah. viper tv vids,tell of 7 nuke weapons hidden in the mountains,as defence against invaders,but used to ''cleanse'' earth.. we,as a species,are not meant to be here..also watch brian foersters vids.. the pyramids,were power generators. not,built by the egyptians..
Please check out Black Canyon, Colorado. There are many strange things there that can be seen from photos provided on the tourist site. I tried to find anything that could be related, regarding ancient dwellings in that area. But found nothing. Although I can see many huge carved stones, walls, stairways and a few carved heads. It looks like an ancient site that has crumbled away. But still remains to be explored.
Hello I.C.U, thanks for watching and your comments. I have seen photographs of Black Canyon and it certainly is spectacular. Perhaps, one day I will trek out there.......alex
The ages you have put on them pre date anything I have heard of and the craftsmanship is bar none. I have a theory of the Grand Canyon formation you might find interesting interesting Alex. I'd love to hear your thoughts of it.
OK. Thanks for getting back to me on that. Do you ever plan to visit them or is there sites of more interest for you? There's petroglyphs also at Mt. Diablo I understand. How are these sites protected? sad to see the bullet holes. This site, the landscape views would be cool via drone too. I participated in the last/Peru GlobalXplorer sourcing so kinda got a crave for aerial views. btw, I have designed aerial infographics for property marketing for at least a decade, and thanks to Globalxplorer, it makes it hard to concentrate on my work as I tend to stray off scanning the ground for possible signs of long gone habitats instead of work related stuff. Thanks for the nice vids.
I thank you deeply, that was a well done video. The petroglyphs and the pictograms were incredible, they made me ponder the beginning of human perception. Do you sell any digital fotos? If so I am very interested.
Thank you for watching the video and your comment. I do not sell images, but you are free to copy/download any image on my channel for your use. My regards..................................alex
@@storiesbyalex I was wondering what was your reason for enhancing the images that you did enhance. I would love to have seen some more enhanced images. I am especially interested in spirals, whorls, circular formas any that are triple repetitions. I would like to send you an email. Sincerely G.
The reason to enhance pictograph images is related to color Wavelength and the Visible Spectrum of the human eye (it is limited). So, to see beyond what the eye cannot see we can manipulate a photograph to bring out certain colors. In several of my films I use a process called d-Stretch which enhances the light spectrum beyond what a human eye can see. As an example, see my Golden Hills Pictograph film. ruclips.net/video/bkKvzIk-quE/видео.html
@@storiesbyalex that is an informative reply and I can see the reasoning. But, my question, rather, was why did you chose certain images. Or do you enhance them all but only include certain enhancements in your videos. I am going to watch all pf your productions/field trips I find. Cheers G.
I do not enhance all my images as many are within our visible spectrum. However, even those within our color spectrum can be enhanced to bring them to a level as to what they looked liked when created..................alex
I just found your videos today, and wow. I am really enjoying them. I absolutely love your musical selections, as well. I recognize a few of them. :) However, I have tried to look them up from you list, and come up empty. Can you please tell me what the last music score is on this video? Would love to do reading/studying to it.
@@melanieanne2066 That final track was emailed to me from the artist who produced it and I am not sure if that exact theme is available. However, there is a very similiar recording which you can find on RUclips by running a search on RUclips using the following search parameter, "Ambient Backing Track (G) - MegaBackingTracks".........alex
Look the first Stone constelation in this doku min. 0:58 after chek Art Picture from Röhrich( Röhrichpact and the 3 Points) Same thing! Waht is go in on?
These petrographs seem to be deeper than most petrographs. They look almost chiseled into the rock rather than pecked into the rock. I absolutly love this
So amazing! Thankful for your videos and lessons about our ancestors. I learn from them. I think if I were to be stranded in a place a cave would make the perfect home. They had stunning views from where they could watch for herds for hunting or potential enemies, and the caves would give much shelter and protection from the elements obviously, than just about any other abode. Look how long they have lasted! 10K and more years! My next home will be made of stone! Just amazing you held that stone that was held by an ancient persons hands. You are blessed sir!
During the ice ages innumerable massive lakes filled the high plains valleys and depressions, in Oregon, Nevada,Utah,New Mexico. The vegetation would have been vastly different as well. Nomadic travelers frequented these lands far back earlier than realized.
Hey!!! we have those same glyhs here on Vancouver Island on sproat Lake I have not seen the ones located in great central Lake but it has a bunch too Glyph
Jenn Jenny, thanks for watching and your comments. One explanation is that as ancient people migrated into the Americas from Siberia and breaking off into groups they often left behind their symbols...............alex
I grew up in this area, circles like those you claimed are shamanic possibly at the beginning are actually fairly common. I've personally found about a dozen such sites with debutage in sometimes large piles. Likely they just occupied these sites and worked/ lived just like everyone does every day. Just because a location has a circle doesn't mean it's shamanic, probably just a spot with people surviving. There's so many of them in this area with 10,000 year old fire pits just sitting on the surface to be tripped over.
What tribe was in this area and using this land would be your best bet to understand what you are looking at & who it really belongs 2! We still use obsidian
My understanding is that the native people who placed these symbols at this site preceded the arrival, by several thousand years, of the Paiute who now live in this area. And so their history and the true meaning of the symbols seems to have been lost in time.........alex
I think you are wrong about dating the site. The broken rocks and unusual layers if the carvings make them appear as if they were done while rock(s) were one face. Disrupted by ground/hills moved under moving continents. Smudges from fires are newer. Hmmm...
Has anyone ever tried to put those pieces together through a picture with all those glyphs? It looks like a structure that crumbled or a prehistoric tree that petrified.
Scott, thanks for watching and your comment. From my perspective moving that stone in that circumstance did not impact the archaeological context of that site............................alex
Hits the nail in the head, undisturbed. All of your questions have answers with all the remaining northern Paiute tribes, if anyone would bother to ask.
Amazing site. Whenever I've found something like this there is always modern graffiti present. I wonder if the site was ever archeologically excavated?
I do firmly believe that the history we've been taught is not an accurate depiction of the past. However I find it extremely unlikely that thing's such as the stones you pointed out used for grinding grain have been untouched for 10k year's. One thing that I'm uncertain of is the colors over the petroglyphs. Was that used to highlight the carvings or were they discovered as in this video?
Thank you for watching the video. The images in the video are what the eye would see and are not manipulated. Also, the age of the grinding stone is actually undetermined. It could be several hundred years old or more………alex
Why does it seem that everything concerning ancient sites are interpreted as relating to spiritual beliefs. Could it be more often than not just structures of ordinary use.
8:24 the shaped stone. Immediately I saw track marks, as if the stone was moved, or had been moving. Logically how many people do you think would just slide a rock for about about 15 inches to two feet? Not very likely to happen. It’s easy enough to lift, a person might lift but not slide it. Just food for thought.
Fascinating..these areas are extremely dry today-was Nevada wetter and greener 12,000 years ago? These same style petroglyphs are seen in NE brazil-yet academic archaeologists seem to have little interest in them..why?
Thanks for sharing these ancient sites with us and also for not disclosing their locations. Some of the petroglyphs have been defaced by those that cannot see past their own pleasure. There is a group of people here in Nevada that catalog, photograph and sketch the ancient drawings in an effort to preserve and protect them from the disrespectful.
And I thank the great spirit for that, and you sir
@@nikkimetalchick8860 Moronic statement...
I looked into it and the glyphs are only about 2 hours from where I live, but even if people were to go to them you aren't allowed to see them, it's on a reservation and only tribe members are allowed to see them in person.
There is now someone guarding the site all the time. Access is not permitted. Due to vandalism.
@@robinday2137 Yes, it's sad. People today are so frickin' thoughtless.
I'm a Cherokee indian from Oklahoma. Things like this makes me sad. Because I've always wondered what it would have been like to have lived like my ancestors. Looking out from those dwellings onto the valley us so beautiful. Imagine looking out and seeing as far as you can see the buffalo and other wild game grazing. Must have been breath taking. Thanks for the video.
Roverman, thanks for watching and your comments. I also share your sense of wonder of the beauty of the lands as I trek through the wilderness visiting these ancient sites.............alex
I feel the same way as I make my way across the Southwest.
I wonder though. By their standards of the day would they consider modern Indian peoples rich? Imagine going down to the beautiful lake that was once there and if you could not capture game or fish that day your family would go hungry. This is a great video. The symbols are CARVED into the rock instead of painted. Very time consuming.
I'm in northern Michigan and feel the same way! We are blind to technology and greed is consuming the earth! I wish I could just hunt, fish and grow food and make my own time schedule
Look into an Out Bound program, (if it still exists). Try it for a week, then evaluate your ideas. Canada is full of undeveloped areas, so the opportunity is there if you want it. Good luck.
This was so completely honest, straightforward and lacking in the usual false-dramatization that accompanies so called scholarly productions these days. Thank you very much. No doubt the ice age left a more habitable Nevada than we now see.
Very amazing and interesting. A modern day countertop and grinding stone from way back. Loved the flute sounding as a way gone time adding to the enlightened ways from those before us in this modern day. ♥️♥️
I took a tour with an archaeologist and a historian, in Utah. They were involved in a survey of ancient native American sites. In addition to the petroglyphs and pictographs that were out in the open, they showed me many hidden pictographs that were several thousands of years old. It was awe inspiring to realize just how long these drawings had survived.
Loved this. I got to go back in time again and imagine how the shelters might have looked with grass mats and cooking fires, hides being scrapped and hanging.
As soon as I get my first time machine, I'm inviting Alex along to visit all these interesting sights back when they were still active!
Very good that you don't give up the precise location of this national treasure.
I used to live in Nevada and I found many spots where the Old Ones who used to live in the desert used for chipping flakes from the obsidian and flint to make points for their weapons and tools.
Literally waist high heaps of flakes and other debris from the manufacturing of their stone cutlery...
Most of these places are covered by tire tracks and broken glass as well as other trash people who have no respect for the ancient sites, have left behind...I personally didn't tell anyone else about the places I found, but obviously others had been frequenting the same areas and using it as a partying location..
I was living in the Armagosa area around the old Bullfrog mines and whatever was left of the town of Rhyolite,near the little hole called Beatty.
Much more exist outside that area from the distant pre white man prospecting invasion during the late 1800's and still goes on today,..
Some of these sites are on privately owned land and well managed and protected... Much more is on the Free Range public lands fair game to all who have four wheeler transportation... Beware if you decide to go out there.There are very deep mine shafts that are in unexpected places, camouflaged by brush and other debris.. People who are not aware of the dangerous territory have been lost by driving into some open pits...Many people who have gone missing out there have never been found.Some of those pits are over 200 feet deep..
I haven't been back in the area for over 40years,and since finding out how seriously radioactive that whole section of the wilderness is, I'll never go back...
It's local common knowledge that from The Beatty area stretching north and east through the government test site, it's seriously"hot"...
West of Beatty NV and spread across the vast onthe desert pavement adjacent to the hwy leading across Armagosa valley to daylight pass are open air sites of great antiquity. No sleeping circles or other identifiable occupational sites, but the pavement holds some incredible examples of large stones that have been knapped like they were being tested for their quality. so maybe an ancient surface quarry as all the stones embedded in the desert pavement are cobbles of all sizes fist size to basketball size. so the test flutes really stand out, I have found some what I would consider finished or near finished tools, usually unifacial and crude yet of obvious human manufacture/ alteration with very thick & heavy surface patina, some of the cobbles are semi precious gemstone or fine quartzite that are literally black with patina and very dark brown patina where they have been fluted, the bottom sides often are bright natural color of the stone or stained orange like so many cobbles on these ancient cobble covered desert pavements that usually are found at the terminus of defunct alluvial fans leading to Pleistocene /pluvial lakes and river terraces.
Thank you Alex. The last time I saw anything even remotely like this was at the summit of Haleakala on Maui. There are shelters at the summit where the ancient Hawaiian warriors sheltered while making stone tools and there are flint pieces that have been worked, but weren't quite right so were abandoned. I didn't see any petroglyphs, but I have seen them elsewhere on Maui, O'ahu and Big Island. These in Nevada are so striking. They remind me of carvings on Aztec pyramids. This lake wasn't always dry so climate change affected their life there.
That is a great rock shelter. You're out of the rain and wind in many directions. Australian Aboriginals used them until very recently. Probably still do. Petraglyhs of fish from the lake. Awesome.
I sure hope you had permission to go on our reservation, but I think not since our Tribe is trying to protect this location. Please exclude this if you haven't.
I'm from & live in No. Nevada..I glad you didn't disclose the location.. although I do know where it is
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. By far the most inspiring video I have seen in a while! This has made my week, these shelter sites look like there from another planet. It's so interesting to me to think about sites like this and what life was like for Ancient Man, I would love to travel in time and sit around for a night by the fire with these Ancient Men and Women.
0:56 - the giant fish is truly amazing.
Especially since it resembles a carp. The eye, fin and scales are clearly visible, and it is HUGE!
I also think there are big fins facing vertically on the rocks next to it.
The lake disappeared in the 1930s.
Must have been good fishing.
that moment, at 5:50 where you are coming up to the red paintings, theres something about that whole rock facing that makes it POP out almost like its 3D, it almost gave me motion sickness looking at it the first time.
I lived in Nevada for 22 + years we used to go off reading almost every weekend, and we would come across petroglyphs quite frequently. These are spectacular he best ones I think I’ve ever scene! There are quite a collection in Southern Nevada too, while they are all in one area, hundreds of them, they don’t compare to the intricate designs I’m seeing here. Are these feathers or fish scales? What do you see?
If you did the drugs they did, you’d see similar designs. The swirls and spirals are common throughout the world. The visual perspective effects of certain drugs on the brain is universal.
I saw ferns, giant leaves, foliage
Felt as though I were in Petra of No America. So fascinating and with your wonderful narration the feeling of wonderment is enhanced ten-fold. Thanks for keeping the location discrete Alex. There aren't many visitors into the NV outback and those who do go generally appreciate the environment. The past year has been oddly kind to the NV desert region in supplying more water than normal. Have really enjoyed the added color. Very well done!
+folmonty Thanks for watching and the kind words. It was a fun journey......alex
Always curious when people say this is older ,oldest this is this many years old or that many years old.When I research dating techniques they always involve assumption s and questionable "facts".Remain skeptical of things that are not based on eyewitness accounts.
They fit everything to their preconceived beliefs, bias and money making opportunities.
He said oldest known...what is there to be skeptical about?
Everything
It is a delicious revisit to this video. I love Nevada, lived there 17 years.
A special place.
My WAG is: the vast area out yonder was once a life-supporting, massive lake. Natural climate changes changed everything.
An asteroid changed everything
What happened to the Native People was not an accident die to weather or climate change. The government diverted their water sources, starving and hunting them out with the Relocation Act of 1863. They had a $5 bounty for a Native scalp. Most man-made lakes are hiding Native camps and villages. The Calvary used dynamite and high-pressure water cannons to try to erase the existence of the Indigenous People. Watch "60 Minutes, Iran's Garden of Eden". It shows the extent people went through to erase people they considered undesirable.
Have you been to the sky rock petroglyph in the Bishop CA area? It took me a while and lots if searching but I have finally found it. Would be interesting if you knew any thing about what they might mean.
This is one of the most important videos on YT on one of the most important channels.
thank you for the respect you show to this art form and its fist americans or firstnation etc.you are a a very old soul and very wise.
Pictographs of the future are the thousands of tagged boxcars that are in RR yards today.
You can thank the Mexicans for that....
I have seen some works of art rolling down the tracks.
Something to look at waiting for the train
@@guyglot And quite good art to boot. As long as they don’t paint over any ID codes of the cars, the RR gets free maintenance. At least half way up!🤣
4:45 This is a medicine wheel, a circle within a circle with four directions
Mark, thanks for watching and your comment.................alex
@4:50..
Not all tribes had those, and this is probably pre-dating the few that did. The eastern tribes didn't have that, and they may not have either.
Someone was a good artist.
One thing that sort of irritates me about Native American relics is the assumption that they're holy somehow. I'm a Native American. Sometimes they are holy, but sometimes they're not. The Native Americans I know are playful. They like to have fun. It's possible that this guy was a really good graffiti artist. He/she clearly liked their cave. He/she decorated it beautifully.
Thank you for preserving it.
Outstanding! Thank you for showing.
I grew up in this region and there's been a large degree of vandalism in recent decades, people shooting the petroglyphs, stealing artifacts, basically just being terrible. I'll not divulge where these are, but it is close to a town where going out to shoot, drink, and 4-wheel (all combined) it's very common. I was a local, but most locals really didn't care about these amazing sites. They're not protected or secured in any way and that needs to change before they're gone.
You are great job VR from BC 💓🙏🌾🌾🙏
This is very wonderful ,thank you for bringing this to U Tube watcher . You are the only person who shows us these ancient sites . Thank you
Dena, thank you for the kind words and watching the series...........alex
brian foerster vids. time before man. when our creators walked the earth..not us.
Alex...why no music credits?
He should be playing ROCK music instead
Thank you for all your hard work, very informative!!
Your channel is amazing. Blessings from Norcal
"where roads are made i lose my way" - tagore
hearing "i don't know" was awesome. epistemology has always done me better than knowing. where there is certainty, consideration is absent. without knowing, its much easier to observe what you don't know about, seeing all the faces at points i was unsurprised to see the grinder find your hand. :)
Circle of rocks looks like where a shelter was built or a teepee. There is one spot in the circle with no rocks, like an entrance to said shelter.
Those habitation sites were probably used not that long ago, couple hundred years ago.
What is your opinion when he has scientific proof of it being an estimated 14,000 years old. It’s literally the oldest known Petroglyph site in North America. Are you feeling okay?
agreed. the proof is study the Safire Project and instant vitrification. when using “standard” dating methods, they assume (incorrectly) that there is a steady rate of decay whereby you can trust that certain isotopes will take X number of years to breakdown. this assumption ignores that intense electrical bombardment or a solar micronova or other external source can create an instantaneous isotopic change, rendering most if not all of these techs functionally useless.
@@samuelhammondcoble420 Plasma apocalypse
Wow, very cool stuff! Thanks for taking the time to bring us this!😀
I will try to find more on the dating. Keep in mind the age of the carbonates does not give the age of the petroglyphs combined with it would have been continued to be used for along period and the items laying around could be the last habitation not the first. I will look into it-I know where it is of course.
I checked the various methods and they multiple types of testing on carbonates and sediments and other things-it was a big mix of methods.
Do you know if there is public access or tours of this ???
Nevada is also where they found Spirit Cave Man. During the Ice Age, most of Nevada was covered by vast lakes, now dry. At that time, Nevada was not desert, but wetlands teaming with game animals.
The same x-pattern (or zig-zag-pattern) and spirals can be found in Newgrange in Ireland (about 5000 years old). If there was no direct, physical connection between these people than these petroglyphs must have had common spiritual sources.
Adam, thanks for watching. The spiral symbol can be found in all cultures throughout the world where petroglyphs are located......alex
look closely you can see ogham script
Petroglyphs explained
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Many of these "symbols," as we have interpreted them, have been identified as atmospheric plasma shapes that would accompany a major CME event. That suggests that rather than a "spiritual" connection, the cave dwellers were describing the atmospheric disturbances that drove them into the caves in the first place... the connection? Global catastrophe.
It's proposed that the recurrence of the same styled rock around the world are because various cultures throughout history used psychogenic mushrooms for their vision quests. Here's a great article about hallucinogens and Rock Art...
Hallucinogens and Rock Art - Altered states of consciousness in the Palaeolithic period By Eva Hopman
www.academia.edu/download/9018665/jagersverzamelaars_essay_ECHopman.doc
I often wonder if sites like this were possibly places where tribal members were banished to for a while - say, if they had to be isolated due to illness or punishment. Or maybe just camping out there waiting for game. I wonder if most petroglyphs were made by people who simply had a lot of time on their hands and not much to do while waiting for something.
Yeah, makes you wonder about the ultimate meaning and circumstances of these individuals so long ago...it had to take quite a while to sit there with a stone and peck in these amazing petroglyphs...
I get where you are coming from but I think you view it too much from today's world. I mean even nowadays some people have lots of free time (work part time or are millionaire) but spent time online or surfing or golfing etc. But that is now. And 10,000 years ago there were no office or walmart of mc donalds jobs. Just living in nature. If people had found a prey they would have food for days and yes maybe have a day off just walking around making paintings. Also, climate/rain circumstances has changed in some areas over the last 10,000 years. You can't assume the weather then was the same. But yes it is fascinating to think about this :)
beautiful commentary and music! what a site!
They r not 10,000 yrs old they r approximately 3,000...
@@jerilynjonez9230 Glad you were there 3,000 years ago to enlighten us all...
Inappropriate music for the Great Basin area.
Also the stone probably wasn’t for “eating” like how we prepare a meal, due to the site it was probably for preparing ceremonial substances
We did a video concerning this site a couple of years ago. Very interesting area. Thank you for the video.
Beautiful! Thank you!
Squatter man in all of its various forms is universal as well
nobody 'owned' anything 14000 years ago, nothing to squat, it's free open land to be shared with the rest of Nature. until you all had to OWN it.
@@RIXRADvidz im not talking about land ownership bro !!!! im talking about SQUATTER MAN or STICK MAN what ever u want to call it its carved into stone all around the world and its very ancient
At about 9:33 next to the large flat stone there is a little round stone with a hole in it. Could it be part of a necklace or bracelet someone was making? Or is just a round stone with a hole in it?
Thanks for not telling exactly where your locations are.
Thank you for posting these videos! Amazing!
+phantom12311976 Thanks for watching. It was a fun trek. My Regards - Alex
No problem
I know this is one of your older videos but I just saw it. Wow! I've never seen that style of petroglypf before. Do you know of the petroglyphs just east of Lone Pine? They are on the old high water stand of Owens Lake on the north side.
Bluke Blue, thanks for watching the series. I have not been to the site you mentioned. Hopefully, one day I will trek out there........alex
storiesbyalex Alex, if you have a non public way to contact you I can tell you how to get there. Its been vandalized already and it should stay as secret as possible. Thanks!
@@blukeblue1235 , I would appreciate the info. My email is alex@storiesbyalex.com .............alex
The corral has covered over much of the art! Thats got to be pre lake lahonton?
Thanks for watching and your comments. The petroglyphs are actually placed onto boulders know as tufa, which is a form of limestone. Pre- lake Lahontan would make them 75,000 years old, which is not the case according to scientific testing........................alex
You can feel the medicine and history in those symbols... Is there an illustration mapping the images some where?
Hatter, thanks for watching. If you "google" oldest petroglyphs in the USA you will find much information about the site....................alex
I think that it was a fire pit, and that is the place that where the were staying for an extended length of time. A fire pit in that spot would allow the heat to be held in that area, with probably a man-made structure on the other side, to hold heat in, as well as a good protection against animals coming up on them at night. A fire pit would be that large around if they were trying to stop the fire from spreading to the dry grass near it, they would have had to dig up the grass on the inside of the round circle, and try to make sure that it was wide enough where the grass was pulled up by the fire to keep it from getting out of the fire ring. The rocks were probably used to prop up wood with meat on it getting it ready to eat, or smoking it.
That would be a good way to utilize this area as a campground. There would be the potential for thousands of birds migrating to and from the this area when the water levels could support them.
If you want to know what the pictographs are depicting, look into Anthony Peratt and his discovery of petroglyphs and their relationship to plasma physics.
yes! and read the works of Velikovsky
One of my favorite places, now blocked off.
I always wanted to see this site up close. It’s a shame it’s blocked off, but probably best because ppl don’t have respect
If it's blocked off to block off blockheads I support it...no excuse for disrespect...
These sites bordering lakes were often hunting encampments. Thus your finding of the tool production.
You need to look at death valley and Valley of Fire, these were areas of ancient atomic blasts! Your history goes back million of years.
@@GAVACHO5150 yep, few times i hear about civilizations getting strucked by nuclear war heads
@@GAVACHO5150 watch revalation of the pyramids,or viper tv,sumerian tablets. we,were created by an alien race,,not god.. hindu vedas talk of 3 alien races fighting for possession of earth. 2 against 1 bad race. the asteroid belt,was,,a planet.. mars was nuked,same as sodom & gomorrah. viper tv vids,tell of 7 nuke weapons hidden in the mountains,as defence against invaders,but used to ''cleanse'' earth.. we,as a species,are not meant to be here..also watch brian foersters vids.. the pyramids,were power generators. not,built by the egyptians..
I’ve came across a lot of that in southern Oregon desert. A lot more people inhabited this land than we know.
Please check out Black Canyon, Colorado. There are many strange things there that can be seen from photos provided on the tourist site. I tried to find anything that could be related, regarding ancient dwellings in that area. But found nothing. Although I can see many huge carved stones, walls, stairways and a few carved heads. It looks like an ancient site that has crumbled away. But still remains to be explored.
Hello I.C.U, thanks for watching and your comments. I have seen photographs of Black Canyon and it certainly is spectacular. Perhaps, one day I will trek out there.......alex
The ages you have put on them pre date anything I have heard of and the craftsmanship is bar none. I have a theory of the Grand Canyon formation you might find interesting interesting Alex. I'd love to hear your thoughts of it.
Do you know anything about the Mt. Diablo/East Bay, Yuba City, Shasta etc walls?
Hello, I am aware of the walls, but have not studied or filmed them..........alex
OK. Thanks for getting back to me on that. Do you ever plan to visit them or is there sites of more interest for you? There's petroglyphs also at Mt. Diablo I understand. How are these sites protected? sad to see the bullet holes. This site, the landscape views would be cool via drone too. I participated in the last/Peru GlobalXplorer sourcing so kinda got a crave for aerial views. btw, I have designed aerial infographics for property marketing for at least a decade, and thanks to Globalxplorer, it makes it hard to concentrate on my work as I tend to stray off scanning the ground for possible signs of long gone habitats instead of work related stuff. Thanks for the nice vids.
I’ve always wanted to know what the oldest archeological sites are in North America, thanks homie
I thank you deeply, that was a well done video. The petroglyphs and the pictograms were incredible, they made me ponder the beginning of human perception. Do you sell any digital fotos? If so I am very interested.
Thank you for watching the video and your comment. I do not sell images, but you are free to copy/download any image on my channel for your use. My regards..................................alex
@@storiesbyalex I was wondering what was your reason for enhancing the images that you did enhance. I would love to have seen some more enhanced images. I am especially interested in spirals, whorls, circular formas any that are triple repetitions. I would like to send you an email. Sincerely G.
The reason to enhance pictograph images is related to color Wavelength and the Visible Spectrum of the human eye (it is limited). So, to see beyond what the eye cannot see we can manipulate a photograph to bring out certain colors. In several of my films I use a process called d-Stretch which enhances the light spectrum beyond what a human eye can see. As an example, see my Golden Hills Pictograph film.
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@@storiesbyalex that is an informative reply and I can see the reasoning. But, my question, rather, was why did you chose certain images. Or do you enhance them all but only include certain enhancements in your videos. I am going to watch all pf your productions/field trips I find. Cheers G.
I do not enhance all my images as many are within our visible spectrum. However, even those within our color spectrum can be enhanced to bring them to a level as to what they looked liked when created..................alex
I just found your videos today, and wow. I am really enjoying them. I absolutely love your musical selections, as well. I recognize a few of them. :) However, I have tried to look them up from you list, and come up empty. Can you please tell me what the last music score is on this video? Would love to do reading/studying to it.
Hello Melanie, are you referring to the very last track during the credits?.......................alex
@@storiesbyalex Yes sir! :)
@@melanieanne2066 That final track was emailed to me from the artist who produced it and I am not sure if that exact theme is available. However, there is a very similiar recording which you can find on RUclips by running a search on RUclips using the following search parameter, "Ambient Backing Track (G) - MegaBackingTracks".........alex
Have you been to Goshute Caves in North White Pine County Nevada?
Absolutely wonderful
Amazing longhorn sheep. Great comments. Thanks for the video. Greatings from Norway!
Ingvar, thanks for watching........alex
Look the first Stone constelation in this doku min. 0:58 after chek Art Picture from Röhrich( Röhrichpact and the 3 Points) Same thing! Waht is go in on?
Fascinating! Thank you!
that looks like an ancient lake (bonneville?) AND THE DUGOUT SITES WERE UNDERWATER BUT SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS OF USE AS LAKE SIDE SHELTERS.
These petrographs seem to be deeper than most petrographs. They look almost chiseled into the rock rather than pecked into the rock. I absolutly love this
At 3:20 it looks like someone was chasing a hen and someone in front of the hen was trying to put a net over it.
Thank you for your excellent educational videos.
Felix, thank you for watching the series........................alex
Fascinating rock formations and history.
So amazing! Thankful for your videos and lessons about our ancestors. I learn from them. I think if I were to be stranded in a place a cave would make the perfect home. They had stunning views from where they could watch for herds for hunting or potential enemies, and the caves would give much shelter and protection from the elements obviously, than just about any other abode. Look how long they have lasted! 10K and more years! My next home will be made of stone! Just amazing you held that stone that was held by an ancient persons hands. You are blessed sir!
During the ice ages innumerable massive lakes filled the high plains valleys and depressions, in Oregon, Nevada,Utah,New Mexico. The vegetation would have been vastly different as well. Nomadic travelers frequented these lands far back earlier than realized.
I have lived in Ecuador 25 years we see the same here in the Andes and on the coast 1012 Thousand Years here we call it Pacha mama
Pachamama and keeps you up is Mother Earth here we come from the Earth we go back to the Earth
How can you know which rock carvings are oldest? Did they include a date carved into the stone?
Tell me I have paredolia, but is that not a perfect petrified giant bird? I'm sure the carvers saw it hence the decoration.
Oh I love this so much! Thank you for sharing.
Hey!!! we have those same glyhs here on Vancouver Island on sproat Lake I have not seen the ones located in great central Lake but it has a bunch too
Glyph
Jenn Jenny, thanks for watching and your comments. One explanation is that as ancient people migrated into the Americas from Siberia and breaking off into groups they often left behind their symbols...............alex
That looks like a structure that fell apart, I think they are of the last Apocalypse...
Could be, evidence shows that the earth was struck by a massive object around the area of Greenland about 10-12,000 years ago.
I grew up in this area, circles like those you claimed are shamanic possibly at the beginning are actually fairly common. I've personally found about a dozen such sites with debutage in sometimes large piles. Likely they just occupied these sites and worked/ lived just like everyone does every day. Just because a location has a circle doesn't mean it's shamanic, probably just a spot with people surviving. There's so many of them in this area with 10,000 year old fire pits just sitting on the surface to be tripped over.
3:03 beside the spiral on he left side, looks like the side profile of an angel, with wings.
Could you please share the name of the CD? Soundhound does not recognize it :)
What tribe was in this area and using this land would be your best bet to understand what you are looking at & who it really belongs 2! We still use obsidian
My understanding is that the native people who placed these symbols at this site preceded the arrival, by several thousand years, of the Paiute who now live in this area. And so their history and the true meaning of the symbols seems to have been lost in time.........alex
I think you are wrong about dating the site. The broken rocks and unusual layers if the carvings make them appear as if they were done while rock(s) were one face. Disrupted by ground/hills moved under moving continents. Smudges from fires are newer. Hmmm...
Has anyone ever tried to put those pieces together through a picture with all those glyphs?
It looks like a structure that crumbled or a prehistoric tree that petrified.
are you shure.., thier some on cape alitak on kodiak that the Yupik made??
Do you think it was wise to have moved the larger stone in the manner that you did???
Scott, thanks for watching and your comment. From my perspective moving that stone in that circumstance did not impact the archaeological context of that site............................alex
Nice thank you.. Im learning from your videos.... What is the name of the song?
Another wonderful excursion ... Thank you
Hits the nail in the head, undisturbed. All of your questions have answers with all the remaining northern Paiute tribes, if anyone would bother to ask.
Alex, great video as always.
Please tell us where did you get the music at the end of this video ?
Amazing site. Whenever I've found something like this there is always modern graffiti present. I wonder if the site was ever archeologically excavated?
Thanks so much 🌾🚜🙏💓
The habitation sites are serrounded by pillow lava, that means it formed under water. All of these valleys were an inland sea after the great flood.
Was, this site East of Fallon, NV just ofc from Highway 50 ????!?
I am interested in what caused that entire rock structure it looks organic.And how did the people carve into the stone ?Was it soft?
I think it was probably a tufa formation so quite soft to be able to carve into.
I do firmly believe that the history we've been taught is not an accurate depiction of the past. However I find it extremely unlikely that thing's such as the stones you pointed out used for grinding grain have been untouched for 10k year's. One thing that I'm uncertain of is the colors over the petroglyphs. Was that used to highlight the carvings or were they discovered as in this video?
Thank you for watching the video. The images in the video are what the eye would see and are not manipulated. Also, the age of the grinding stone is actually undetermined. It could be several hundred years old or more………alex
Why does it seem that everything concerning ancient sites are interpreted as relating to spiritual beliefs. Could it be more often than not just structures of ordinary use.
Everything was spiritual to the natives because they lived in Harmony. All tribes mostly believed in a creator and Divine order.
8:24 the shaped stone. Immediately I saw track marks, as if the stone was moved, or had been moving. Logically how many people do you think would just slide a rock for about about 15 inches to two feet? Not very likely to happen. It’s easy enough to lift, a person might lift but not slide it.
Just food for thought.
Fascinating..these areas are extremely dry today-was Nevada wetter and greener 12,000 years ago? These same style petroglyphs are seen in NE brazil-yet academic archaeologists seem to have little interest in them..why?
probably all the perverted sex and ritual satanism i'd guess.