Oldest Petroglyphs In North America - Nevada
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Trek with me to Nevada and see North America's oldest/dated petroglyphs.
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I'm a Cherokee indian from Oklahoma. Things like this makes me sad. Because I've always wondered what it would have been like to have lived like my ancestors. Looking out from those dwellings onto the valley us so beautiful. Imagine looking out and seeing as far as you can see the buffalo and other wild game grazing. Must have been breath taking. Thanks for the video.
Roverman, thanks for watching and your comments. I also share your sense of wonder of the beauty of the lands as I trek through the wilderness visiting these ancient sites.............alex
I feel the same way as I make my way across the Southwest.
I wonder though. By their standards of the day would they consider modern Indian peoples rich? Imagine going down to the beautiful lake that was once there and if you could not capture game or fish that day your family would go hungry. This is a great video. The symbols are CARVED into the rock instead of painted. Very time consuming.
I'm in northern Michigan and feel the same way! We are blind to technology and greed is consuming the earth! I wish I could just hunt, fish and grow food and make my own time schedule
Look into an Out Bound program, (if it still exists). Try it for a week, then evaluate your ideas. Canada is full of undeveloped areas, so the opportunity is there if you want it. Good luck.
Thanks for sharing these ancient sites with us and also for not disclosing their locations. Some of the petroglyphs have been defaced by those that cannot see past their own pleasure. There is a group of people here in Nevada that catalog, photograph and sketch the ancient drawings in an effort to preserve and protect them from the disrespectful.
And I thank the great spirit for that, and you sir
@@nikkimetalchick8860 Moronic statement...
I looked into it and the glyphs are only about 2 hours from where I live, but even if people were to go to them you aren't allowed to see them, it's on a reservation and only tribe members are allowed to see them in person.
There is now someone guarding the site all the time. Access is not permitted. Due to vandalism.
@@robinday2137 Yes, it's sad. People today are so frickin' thoughtless.
I took a tour with an archaeologist and a historian, in Utah. They were involved in a survey of ancient native American sites. In addition to the petroglyphs and pictographs that were out in the open, they showed me many hidden pictographs that were several thousands of years old. It was awe inspiring to realize just how long these drawings had survived.
This was so completely honest, straightforward and lacking in the usual false-dramatization that accompanies so called scholarly productions these days. Thank you very much. No doubt the ice age left a more habitable Nevada than we now see.
Very amazing and interesting. A modern day countertop and grinding stone from way back. Loved the flute sounding as a way gone time adding to the enlightened ways from those before us in this modern day. ♥️♥️
Loved this. I got to go back in time again and imagine how the shelters might have looked with grass mats and cooking fires, hides being scrapped and hanging.
As soon as I get my first time machine, I'm inviting Alex along to visit all these interesting sights back when they were still active!
Very good that you don't give up the precise location of this national treasure.
I used to live in Nevada and I found many spots where the Old Ones who used to live in the desert used for chipping flakes from the obsidian and flint to make points for their weapons and tools.
Literally waist high heaps of flakes and other debris from the manufacturing of their stone cutlery...
Most of these places are covered by tire tracks and broken glass as well as other trash people who have no respect for the ancient sites, have left behind...I personally didn't tell anyone else about the places I found, but obviously others had been frequenting the same areas and using it as a partying location..
I was living in the Armagosa area around the old Bullfrog mines and whatever was left of the town of Rhyolite,near the little hole called Beatty.
Much more exist outside that area from the distant pre white man prospecting invasion during the late 1800's and still goes on today,..
Some of these sites are on privately owned land and well managed and protected... Much more is on the Free Range public lands fair game to all who have four wheeler transportation... Beware if you decide to go out there.There are very deep mine shafts that are in unexpected places, camouflaged by brush and other debris.. People who are not aware of the dangerous territory have been lost by driving into some open pits...Many people who have gone missing out there have never been found.Some of those pits are over 200 feet deep..
I haven't been back in the area for over 40years,and since finding out how seriously radioactive that whole section of the wilderness is, I'll never go back...
It's local common knowledge that from The Beatty area stretching north and east through the government test site, it's seriously"hot"...
Making everything about race as usual
West of Beatty NV and spread across the vast onthe desert pavement adjacent to the hwy leading across Armagosa valley to daylight pass are open air sites of great antiquity. No sleeping circles or other identifiable occupational sites, but the pavement holds some incredible examples of large stones that have been knapped like they were being tested for their quality. so maybe an ancient surface quarry as all the stones embedded in the desert pavement are cobbles of all sizes fist size to basketball size. so the test flutes really stand out, I have found some what I would consider finished or near finished tools, usually unifacial and crude yet of obvious human manufacture/ alteration with very thick & heavy surface patina, some of the cobbles are semi precious gemstone or fine quartzite that are literally black with patina and very dark brown patina where they have been fluted, the bottom sides often are bright natural color of the stone or stained orange like so many cobbles on these ancient cobble covered desert pavements that usually are found at the terminus of defunct alluvial fans leading to Pleistocene /pluvial lakes and river terraces.
Thank you Alex. The last time I saw anything even remotely like this was at the summit of Haleakala on Maui. There are shelters at the summit where the ancient Hawaiian warriors sheltered while making stone tools and there are flint pieces that have been worked, but weren't quite right so were abandoned. I didn't see any petroglyphs, but I have seen them elsewhere on Maui, O'ahu and Big Island. These in Nevada are so striking. They remind me of carvings on Aztec pyramids. This lake wasn't always dry so climate change affected their life there.
That is a great rock shelter. You're out of the rain and wind in many directions. Australian Aboriginals used them until very recently. Probably still do. Petraglyhs of fish from the lake. Awesome.
I'm from & live in No. Nevada..I glad you didn't disclose the location.. although I do know where it is
Felt as though I were in Petra of No America. So fascinating and with your wonderful narration the feeling of wonderment is enhanced ten-fold. Thanks for keeping the location discrete Alex. There aren't many visitors into the NV outback and those who do go generally appreciate the environment. The past year has been oddly kind to the NV desert region in supplying more water than normal. Have really enjoyed the added color. Very well done!
+folmonty Thanks for watching and the kind words. It was a fun journey......alex
My WAG is: the vast area out yonder was once a life-supporting, massive lake. Natural climate changes changed everything.
An asteroid changed everything
What happened to the Native People was not an accident die to weather or climate change. The government diverted their water sources, starving and hunting them out with the Relocation Act of 1863. They had a $5 bounty for a Native scalp. Most man-made lakes are hiding Native camps and villages. The Calvary used dynamite and high-pressure water cannons to try to erase the existence of the Indigenous People. Watch "60 Minutes, Iran's Garden of Eden". It shows the extent people went through to erase people they considered undesirable.
Nevada is also where they found Spirit Cave Man. During the Ice Age, most of Nevada was covered by vast lakes, now dry. At that time, Nevada was not desert, but wetlands teaming with game animals.
These petrographs seem to be deeper than most petrographs. They look almost chiseled into the rock rather than pecked into the rock. I absolutly love this
thank you for the respect you show to this art form and its fist americans or firstnation etc.you are a a very old soul and very wise.
Pictographs of the future are the thousands of tagged boxcars that are in RR yards today.
You can thank the Mexicans for that....
I have seen some works of art rolling down the tracks.
Something to look at waiting for the train
@@guyglot And quite good art to boot. As long as they don’t paint over any ID codes of the cars, the RR gets free maintenance. At least half way up!🤣
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video. By far the most inspiring video I have seen in a while! This has made my week, these shelter sites look like there from another planet. It's so interesting to me to think about sites like this and what life was like for Ancient Man, I would love to travel in time and sit around for a night by the fire with these Ancient Men and Women.
"where roads are made i lose my way" - tagore
hearing "i don't know" was awesome. epistemology has always done me better than knowing. where there is certainty, consideration is absent. without knowing, its much easier to observe what you don't know about, seeing all the faces at points i was unsurprised to see the grinder find your hand. :)
I grew up in this region and there's been a large degree of vandalism in recent decades, people shooting the petroglyphs, stealing artifacts, basically just being terrible. I'll not divulge where these are, but it is close to a town where going out to shoot, drink, and 4-wheel (all combined) it's very common. I was a local, but most locals really didn't care about these amazing sites. They're not protected or secured in any way and that needs to change before they're gone.
Always curious when people say this is older ,oldest this is this many years old or that many years old.When I research dating techniques they always involve assumption s and questionable "facts".Remain skeptical of things that are not based on eyewitness accounts.
They fit everything to their preconceived beliefs, bias and money making opportunities.
He said oldest known...what is there to be skeptical about?
Everything
This is very wonderful ,thank you for bringing this to U Tube watcher . You are the only person who shows us these ancient sites . Thank you
Dena, thank you for the kind words and watching the series...........alex
brian foerster vids. time before man. when our creators walked the earth..not us.
I lived in Nevada for 22 + years we used to go off reading almost every weekend, and we would come across petroglyphs quite frequently. These are spectacular he best ones I think I’ve ever scene! There are quite a collection in Southern Nevada too, while they are all in one area, hundreds of them, they don’t compare to the intricate designs I’m seeing here. Are these feathers or fish scales? What do you see?
If you did the drugs they did, you’d see similar designs. The swirls and spirals are common throughout the world. The visual perspective effects of certain drugs on the brain is universal.
I saw ferns, giant leaves, foliage
Wow, very cool stuff! Thanks for taking the time to bring us this!😀
It is a delicious revisit to this video. I love Nevada, lived there 17 years.
A special place.
So amazing! Thankful for your videos and lessons about our ancestors. I learn from them. I think if I were to be stranded in a place a cave would make the perfect home. They had stunning views from where they could watch for herds for hunting or potential enemies, and the caves would give much shelter and protection from the elements obviously, than just about any other abode. Look how long they have lasted! 10K and more years! My next home will be made of stone! Just amazing you held that stone that was held by an ancient persons hands. You are blessed sir!
Amazing longhorn sheep. Great comments. Thanks for the video. Greatings from Norway!
Ingvar, thanks for watching........alex
4:45 This is a medicine wheel, a circle within a circle with four directions
Mark, thanks for watching and your comment.................alex
@4:50..
Not all tribes had those, and this is probably pre-dating the few that did. The eastern tribes didn't have that, and they may not have either.
that moment, at 5:50 where you are coming up to the red paintings, theres something about that whole rock facing that makes it POP out almost like its 3D, it almost gave me motion sickness looking at it the first time.
beautiful commentary and music! what a site!
They r not 10,000 yrs old they r approximately 3,000...
@@jerilynjonez9230 Glad you were there 3,000 years ago to enlighten us all...
Inappropriate music for the Great Basin area.
This is one of the most important videos on YT on one of the most important channels.
Also the stone probably wasn’t for “eating” like how we prepare a meal, due to the site it was probably for preparing ceremonial substances
Thanks Alex for the trek through this site. What an excellent job. I will be watching more. Thanks, Scott Allen
+Scott Thomas Allen Thanks for the kind words - it was a fascinating journey.....alex
He respected the place 👍
I sure hope you had permission to go on our reservation, but I think not since our Tribe is trying to protect this location. Please exclude this if you haven't.
Hits the nail in the head, undisturbed. All of your questions have answers with all the remaining northern Paiute tribes, if anyone would bother to ask.
I think that it was a fire pit, and that is the place that where the were staying for an extended length of time. A fire pit in that spot would allow the heat to be held in that area, with probably a man-made structure on the other side, to hold heat in, as well as a good protection against animals coming up on them at night. A fire pit would be that large around if they were trying to stop the fire from spreading to the dry grass near it, they would have had to dig up the grass on the inside of the round circle, and try to make sure that it was wide enough where the grass was pulled up by the fire to keep it from getting out of the fire ring. The rocks were probably used to prop up wood with meat on it getting it ready to eat, or smoking it.
That would be a good way to utilize this area as a campground. There would be the potential for thousands of birds migrating to and from the this area when the water levels could support them.
Thank you for posting these videos! Amazing!
+phantom12311976 Thanks for watching. It was a fun trek. My Regards - Alex
No problem
Thank you for all your hard work, very informative!!
0:56 - the giant fish is truly amazing.
Especially since it resembles a carp. The eye, fin and scales are clearly visible, and it is HUGE!
I also think there are big fins facing vertically on the rocks next to it.
The lake disappeared in the 1930s.
Must have been good fishing.
The same x-pattern (or zig-zag-pattern) and spirals can be found in Newgrange in Ireland (about 5000 years old). If there was no direct, physical connection between these people than these petroglyphs must have had common spiritual sources.
Adam, thanks for watching. The spiral symbol can be found in all cultures throughout the world where petroglyphs are located......alex
look closely you can see ogham script
Petroglyphs explained
ruclips.net/video/6meaU1QcSdA/видео.html
Many of these "symbols," as we have interpreted them, have been identified as atmospheric plasma shapes that would accompany a major CME event. That suggests that rather than a "spiritual" connection, the cave dwellers were describing the atmospheric disturbances that drove them into the caves in the first place... the connection? Global catastrophe.
It's proposed that the recurrence of the same styled rock around the world are because various cultures throughout history used psychogenic mushrooms for their vision quests. Here's a great article about hallucinogens and Rock Art...
Hallucinogens and Rock Art - Altered states of consciousness in the Palaeolithic period By Eva Hopman
www.academia.edu/download/9018665/jagersverzamelaars_essay_ECHopman.doc
Squatter man in all of its various forms is universal as well
nobody 'owned' anything 14000 years ago, nothing to squat, it's free open land to be shared with the rest of Nature. until you all had to OWN it.
@@RIXRADvidz im not talking about land ownership bro !!!! im talking about SQUATTER MAN or STICK MAN what ever u want to call it its carved into stone all around the world and its very ancient
Have you been to the sky rock petroglyph in the Bishop CA area? It took me a while and lots if searching but I have finally found it. Would be interesting if you knew any thing about what they might mean.
Awesome!And as a bonus, the wild mustang. Thanks for sharing.
Circle of rocks looks like where a shelter was built or a teepee. There is one spot in the circle with no rocks, like an entrance to said shelter.
These sites bordering lakes were often hunting encampments. Thus your finding of the tool production.
One of my favorite places, now blocked off.
I always wanted to see this site up close. It’s a shame it’s blocked off, but probably best because ppl don’t have respect
If it's blocked off to block off blockheads I support it...no excuse for disrespect...
this place is pretty amazing, the petroglyphs need to be recorded because they are not going to last and look really good design-wise it may have discernible messaging
I’ve always wanted to know what the oldest archeological sites are in North America, thanks homie
I’ve came across a lot of that in southern Oregon desert. A lot more people inhabited this land than we know.
I often wonder if sites like this were possibly places where tribal members were banished to for a while - say, if they had to be isolated due to illness or punishment. Or maybe just camping out there waiting for game. I wonder if most petroglyphs were made by people who simply had a lot of time on their hands and not much to do while waiting for something.
Yeah, makes you wonder about the ultimate meaning and circumstances of these individuals so long ago...it had to take quite a while to sit there with a stone and peck in these amazing petroglyphs...
I get where you are coming from but I think you view it too much from today's world. I mean even nowadays some people have lots of free time (work part time or are millionaire) but spent time online or surfing or golfing etc. But that is now. And 10,000 years ago there were no office or walmart of mc donalds jobs. Just living in nature. If people had found a prey they would have food for days and yes maybe have a day off just walking around making paintings. Also, climate/rain circumstances has changed in some areas over the last 10,000 years. You can't assume the weather then was the same. But yes it is fascinating to think about this :)
Beautiful! Thank you!
You need to look at death valley and Valley of Fire, these were areas of ancient atomic blasts! Your history goes back million of years.
@@GAVACHO5150 yep, few times i hear about civilizations getting strucked by nuclear war heads
@@GAVACHO5150 watch revalation of the pyramids,or viper tv,sumerian tablets. we,were created by an alien race,,not god.. hindu vedas talk of 3 alien races fighting for possession of earth. 2 against 1 bad race. the asteroid belt,was,,a planet.. mars was nuked,same as sodom & gomorrah. viper tv vids,tell of 7 nuke weapons hidden in the mountains,as defence against invaders,but used to ''cleanse'' earth.. we,as a species,are not meant to be here..also watch brian foersters vids.. the pyramids,were power generators. not,built by the egyptians..
The music makes me imagine native americans hunting buffalo and saber tooth tigers. This stuff is from great flood age. 15000 years ago
Your channel is amazing. Blessings from Norcal
GREAT JOB BROTHER !!! THANK YOU.
Dezert-Owl
Thanks for watching and the kind words.............alex
You are great job VR from BC 💓🙏🌾🌾🙏
Outstanding! Thank you for showing.
We did a video concerning this site a couple of years ago. Very interesting area. Thank you for the video.
The ages you have put on them pre date anything I have heard of and the craftsmanship is bar none. I have a theory of the Grand Canyon formation you might find interesting interesting Alex. I'd love to hear your thoughts of it.
That looks like a structure that fell apart, I think they are of the last Apocalypse...
Could be, evidence shows that the earth was struck by a massive object around the area of Greenland about 10-12,000 years ago.
Fantastic - thank you!
14,000 years old... πολύ παλαιός
Image the stars in the night sky from that place 10,000 years ago.
Very cool thanks
The habitation sites are serrounded by pillow lava, that means it formed under water. All of these valleys were an inland sea after the great flood.
Another wonderful excursion ... Thank you
I'm laughing at myself for imagining what life was like here, then I looked up the location and it's where I was born and spent my childhood. I remember driving out here a few times.
Awesome. I know it's just an illusion, but it almost looks like (@ 10:58) a pyramid or mound at 12o'clock, across the lake bed, with the darker hills and shadows. I can imagine a time there when water flowed, and the elders thrived. 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Oh I love this so much! Thank you for sharing.
that looks like an ancient lake (bonneville?) AND THE DUGOUT SITES WERE UNDERWATER BUT SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS OF USE AS LAKE SIDE SHELTERS.
They record a cataclysm involving the sun.
YES! I believe thats what was being recorded at the site I found.
Can it be another of the same Solar give us our heat, space gives us our cooling. Ice is the last resort of water becoming dominant to Earth dwellers. No clean water , no cooling, no food. No Humanity to bear its results. Seeds grow if conditions are right. Our seed is from us the tree of Life.
the longer this is on you tube the more powerful it becomes
Binging prior footage as I find your videos quite educational and thoroughly enjoy the Native American flute music. 🦅 🎶 🪶
Someone was a good artist.
One thing that sort of irritates me about Native American relics is the assumption that they're holy somehow. I'm a Native American. Sometimes they are holy, but sometimes they're not. The Native Americans I know are playful. They like to have fun. It's possible that this guy was a really good graffiti artist. He/she clearly liked their cave. He/she decorated it beautifully.
Thank you for preserving it.
Please check out Black Canyon, Colorado. There are many strange things there that can be seen from photos provided on the tourist site. I tried to find anything that could be related, regarding ancient dwellings in that area. But found nothing. Although I can see many huge carved stones, walls, stairways and a few carved heads. It looks like an ancient site that has crumbled away. But still remains to be explored.
Hello I.C.U, thanks for watching and your comments. I have seen photographs of Black Canyon and it certainly is spectacular. Perhaps, one day I will trek out there.......alex
Fascinating rock formations and history.
Those habitation sites were probably used not that long ago, couple hundred years ago.
What is your opinion when he has scientific proof of it being an estimated 14,000 years old. It’s literally the oldest known Petroglyph site in North America. Are you feeling okay?
agreed. the proof is study the Safire Project and instant vitrification. when using “standard” dating methods, they assume (incorrectly) that there is a steady rate of decay whereby you can trust that certain isotopes will take X number of years to breakdown. this assumption ignores that intense electrical bombardment or a solar micronova or other external source can create an instantaneous isotopic change, rendering most if not all of these techs functionally useless.
@@samuelhammondcoble420 Plasma apocalypse
I grew up in this area, circles like those you claimed are shamanic possibly at the beginning are actually fairly common. I've personally found about a dozen such sites with debutage in sometimes large piles. Likely they just occupied these sites and worked/ lived just like everyone does every day. Just because a location has a circle doesn't mean it's shamanic, probably just a spot with people surviving. There's so many of them in this area with 10,000 year old fire pits just sitting on the surface to be tripped over.
If you want to know what the pictographs are depicting, look into Anthony Peratt and his discovery of petroglyphs and their relationship to plasma physics.
yes! and read the works of Velikovsky
I wish you had some people with you that cleared out the tumble weeds and I thought I saw something sitting on the wall near the area when you were going towards the tumble weeds. This is so cool. I'm so disappointed that my native heritage is lost. I want to go back, I want to reconnect. I have no information, paper trails aren't strong enough to follow. My great-great-grandmother was ashamed she was full-blood native and erased all trace to live as white with her white husband, and her son, my great-grandfather, was an Indian scout for the U.S. I want to accuse him of being a traitor, probably because he died of old age a few months before I was born and I never met him. My family spoke highly of him and he was well liked and I wouldn't be alive today if things hadn't had happened as they did and all that. But I've tried to trace my heritage, desperately so after being told by my mother that she thought we were of the Cherokee tribe because (back then, at least) they were excepting any amount of blood with paper-trail proof to Cherokee Nation and I found that exciting. But as I've searched so hard and the locations I've followed, I find it hard to say for sure that Cherokee would have been the right tribe. It doesn't help when territories were constantly changing and natives were being pushed around to different areas and what was one territory then is no where near what is one state now, etc. I have no native family heirlooms, no nothing of anything. I watched a documentary here on RUclips this morning I think it was called "Native America before Columbus arrived" or something similar. But it had such beautiful visuals of this country before that time and it went beyond the title description and also talked about what happened as they arrived and how things slowly (and also quickly) changed after their arrival and so on. It made me sad. While I have far less Native American blood (supposedly, blood doesn't exactly taper - off in everyone's DNA at the same rate) than I do the traces of mixes of other races, deep down I identify more with the history, culture, and spirituality of Natives and I was born unto this land, so I am still Native to this land whether by blood of the original Natives or not. This land is in my blood and my soul (if we possess such a thing). I'm not religious abs hold no religious beliefs, but something about the Natives respect for nature and mother earth and only using what you need, not destroying her for greed and profits, that sits right with me. I wish I could be welcomed by a tribe and learn from them first-hand, any of them. Hell, I'd love to join their tribe and live their way. I think it would be amazing. I wish I could go back to that time with the knowledge I have now, before the European invasions and help to save this land and is people, animals, and land from what's is become today. I often wonder how much more beautiful these two continents would be today if the Natives had been able to hold onto everything and send the Europeans back with invitations to visit and trade only, not to conquer and bring disease. Could you imagine if the Americas were still inhabited solely by Natives and they had gained recognition of owners of all of its land and no foreigners were allowed to visit nor stay without permission and promises not to disturb mother nature? I wonder if they would continued to have loved as they always did or of they would have put up casinos or other tourist attractions or if none of that would have interested them if they had these continents to sustain them? It makes me sad to think about it. Because I love the Internet and I love and enjoy many things about the way we live these days, but I don't know that what we've given up and destroyed was worth it and I'm guessing it probably wasn't. It's too bad the Europeans didn't find their way of life more beautiful and instead of bringing their way of life here if they had instead adopted the Native's way of life. Or at least tried harder to! They not only went overboard, but they still continue to break treaties with the Natives to this day. There's no honour, no respect, nothing. It's sickening. They were bullies back then and they're bullies now. And they were murderous then and they are still murderers now, they just go about it differently. Instead of the old ways, now they poison the fresh water supply with bursting oil pipelines and erasing their history and ruining what land they have making it ever more complicated to be self-sufficient. See, this gets me all worked up. That documentary this morning really got to me! I want to drive out to my local Paiute territory and hug them all. They'd think I was a nutcase. I kind of am anyway though. Haha. I haven't been to one of their POW-WOWs in a long time. I need to try to go next time. Even if they weren't my tribe, most likely they weren't, it's still closer to the way life should have been in America than how it is now. Who knows, this ice age that's upon us may change things much closer back to how it was before, closer than anyone wants to believe is possible. If I can survive it, and it actually happens, I'll probably be thrilled for a while. Then I'd probably start reminiscing about the days of WiFi and computers and the world full of information at my fingertips (even if only about 50% of the information is the whole truth). The grass always looks greener on the other side. Ain't that the truth?! If you got this far, thanks for reading my ramblings. If you enjoyed my ramblings, you might want to subscribe to my channel. I'm trying to grow it. I haven't posted videos of me rambling like this though. I'm not planning to either. I don't think people would like that very much. I am trying to settle on a specific idea/concept for my channel though. I just haven't figured it out yet because I'm very passionate about so many things. I'm also bummed I didn't change my RUclips screenname before I set my channel address to this one. A lot of people are put-off by "Spite", rightfully so, but I've been using it for so long that it slipped my mind how unappealing it may seem. Hopefully people will look past it.
SpiteDISCOVERY, Thanks for watching the series and sharing your story and thoughts.....................alex
storiesbyalex thank you for the lesson in history and taking us along for your adventure into the history of this continent.
gonna go check out ur channel but first i wanted to tell u what i thought of ur name - despite discovery - i know it doesn't really make any sense but i like it and in my somewhat twisted way it makes sense to me. anyway do not worry about ur name - i have been accused of being a crackhead and i sure wouldn't have picked this name if i had been thinking what others would think - i just like meditating with crystals, visions, journeys - it's all good. :)
Thanks for watching and your comments - it was a fun journey.........alex
Jeez you need to get over it.
I will try to find more on the dating. Keep in mind the age of the carbonates does not give the age of the petroglyphs combined with it would have been continued to be used for along period and the items laying around could be the last habitation not the first. I will look into it-I know where it is of course.
I checked the various methods and they multiple types of testing on carbonates and sediments and other things-it was a big mix of methods.
Do you know if there is public access or tours of this ???
It's nice to see some are starting to recognize these sites. I've tried to talk to professor's at ISU about ancient burial grounds and sites like this and you would think they would listen or return my emails. It's like they are trying to keep people in the dark.
They don't like the fact that American Indians are not the true native Americans they claim they are. They have found skeletal remains in the US that are 10,000 with some as old as 15,000 years that are of Asian descent, they have worked hard to cover this info up also.
About my hypothesis that the rocks with petroglyphs could be of extraterrestrial origin, what could be for many seen as crazy idea but this video shows the effect of the impact on the rock. This cluster of rocks don't look like belonging to the area. You are going to see the cracks caused by the impact and that the cracks happened after the petroglyphs have been made. These rocks could be remnants of a destroyed planet.
Good video and inspiring to see evidence of inhabitants in the area. How they survived must be quite a story.
I would have to guess this area
Is N.E. In regards to Pyramid Lake, the next valley over from
There. Those Tufa formations
Are unmistakably Pyramid Lake related. I spent a lot of time camping at Pyramid…
Your video was awesome!!
Has anyone ever tried to put those pieces together through a picture with all those glyphs?
It looks like a structure that crumbled or a prehistoric tree that petrified.
Thank you for your excellent educational videos.
Felix, thank you for watching the series........................alex
Baffling! Thank you for sharing, could be of my ancestor Puebloans.
Thanks for watching. It definitely was placed there by early ancestors..........alex
I have found things walking the waterways of Missouri that make me believe there were people in North America hundreds of thousands of years ago. I would like to see more archeological research done here. The findings could rewrite human history.
this is extremely old, more than 14 -10 000 years before this era
I think you are wrong about dating the site. The broken rocks and unusual layers if the carvings make them appear as if they were done while rock(s) were one face. Disrupted by ground/hills moved under moving continents. Smudges from fires are newer. Hmmm...
Great video man! My dog and I want to drive out that way to explore. Might have to make it a weekend trip in spring👍🏼
During the ice ages innumerable massive lakes filled the high plains valleys and depressions, in Oregon, Nevada,Utah,New Mexico. The vegetation would have been vastly different as well. Nomadic travelers frequented these lands far back earlier than realized.
I have lived in Ecuador 25 years we see the same here in the Andes and on the coast 1012 Thousand Years here we call it Pacha mama
Pachamama and keeps you up is Mother Earth here we come from the Earth we go back to the Earth
As a person from the PNW... Claiming that Nevada has the oldest known petroglyphs.... Is a bold statement.... There are ones on Vancouver Island that are far older....
Hello Jake, thanks for watching the video and your comment. In this case the age of the petroglyphs, which is very difficult to ascertain, was obtained through an analysis of the rise and fall of Pyramid lake, which left residue on the petroglyphs that be dated. The earliest archaeological remains in BC, known at present, are between 9,000 - 12,000 years Nevertheless, I am sure that a time progresses we will have older dates and at different locations. Which petroglyphs are you referring to? ..........................alex
3:03 beside the spiral on he left side, looks like the side profile of an angel, with wings.
The corral has covered over much of the art! Thats got to be pre lake lahonton?
Thanks for watching and your comments. The petroglyphs are actually placed onto boulders know as tufa, which is a form of limestone. Pre- lake Lahontan would make them 75,000 years old, which is not the case according to scientific testing........................alex
To think. If dating is correct. The oceans were 400 ft lower. When those were carved. There were mammoths, sabortooth, dire wolves, camels, horses, long horned bison, lions bigger than in Africa, giant sloths, short face bears, and even more. Even could have been a witness to whatever it was that ended the ice age. An killed off all the mega animals.
Alex, I know exactly where these sites are within a Reservation. My next return to my beloved Nevada, I will seek tribal permission to explore the area.
I would love to tag along.
I am not convinced any artifact, in the ancient sites of the west, were left by the original builders. Pottery, tools and weapons, would be the refuse, of the last inhabitants, not the original builders, or makers of the artwork. you would have to assume, every tribe, that ever lived in the area, used this place. It is amazing,
If you head to Nixon and visit the museum, they can tell you where you were and the history. I have been to those sites and hope you left everything as you found it. The Paiute are an amazing people.
I am presuming these are carved in, rather than surface art, because these are on open rock and not an overhang situation, like Newspaper Rock and others I have seen up in MOAB area...
At 3:20 it looks like someone was chasing a hen and someone in front of the hen was trying to put a net over it.