They had the a show with the same premise in Germany and they actually gave the final two the option of either getting a pretty large sum of money or being with the guy, before they did the reveal. One finalist even took the money saying she would rather date another contestant and use the money for a shared vacation. Of course the show couldn’t top that ending and subsequently ended after that season…
@@hommefataltaemin It was called Catch the Millionaire and it happened in the second season. I don’t think it’s on RUclips, but there are some sites that have the full episodes (all in German tough) and yeah it was pretty entertaining especially, because the other contestant was also one of the finalists and they even kissed in front of the guy, while the final girl was holding a plate of money.
I mean, she did tell him to date the other women and then complained about him doing exactly that and having another woman sitting on his lap, while she sat on Steves lap etc. She was dramatic, but he did her wrong still.
It's funny that Steven sent Jenny home because she was TOO into the idea of getting married and having kids really soon and then sent Whitney home for not being ready to get married and have a family.
@@demi3329 I think that's a little unfair. Like you can want the middle ground. Someone who's super into let's get married and have kids right now is probably going to fast for some people, and someone who isn't even thinking about it and what they want regarding family life is probably going to slow for someone who is actively thinking about it. Being on the same page means going neither too fast nor too slow
My one little insight- as someone who worked in reality tv for a couple of years, people 100% forget they are mic'ed up. I've heard bathroom breaks, talks about illegal activity, deeply personal traumatic anecdotes from people who are off camera talking but they've left the lav on, ect. after the first like 10-15 minutes most people forget about it. like they know they have a mic on, but its like they forget the connotations of what that means- that everyone can hear you and you are being recorded.
I totally agree about how good of a host Martin was! I don’t think you mentioned but in that scene with Brianna, I recall him telling her something like “My advice is don’t talk to the men for the rest of the night” basically he saw she was a wreck and didn’t want her to ruin her chances, as she was one the men repeatedly said was a great person but lacked confidence and was kind of a mess. She was sweet but def agree with that. But I just loved Martin!
Kurt doesn't seem like he's hurting for money at all. Like, his family seems solidly upper middle class, he is still the CEO of a business and his net worth is more than $1mil... So even if he doesn't have a literal million in liquid cash, neither of the men have average income. Median net worth for a 30 something is only $35,000. Millennials are out here trying to afford basics and rent. I just looked up the original Joe Millionaire, and he was working class construction worker. I would have preferred the alternative to be working class / not a CEO at least.
@stancharlinow I can't believe how lazy this was. Find a salt of the earth, stoic, extremely handsome, well built dude who doesn't realize his worth-- get HIM on the show with women who will pour themselves into his cup, let's see THAT love story, not yet another well-to-do douchey duo who don't actually want to get to know someone as much as "find someone good enough for them" I'm over it
Historically the idea has been tried and someone very working class usually gives the game away when compared to someone really rich because well they don't know the intricacies of being rich. But yeah the show felt a bit hollow because the question was "Here are 2 rich dudes, one is just ultra rich" lol.
@@nailinthefashion honestly your whole comment about "doesn't know his worth" is cringe and wouldn't t make for good tv. no one wants an insecure partner. plus it's not women's jobs to "pour into them so he realizes his worth"
Right?? I kept forgetting which was supposed to be the poor one because both have more money than I'll ever have, which kind of made the entire thing seem vain and lavish.
I think it would be fun to find women willing to go on this show who DON'T want to date a millionaire as well. Like... Cast a few socialist women who believe millionaires shouldn't exist. It will add another layer of tension to the mix as we, the audience, get to watch someone morally opposed to hoarding wealth maybe fall in love with generational wealth.
YESSSSS!!!!! And please make sure they are well versed in economics and policy; too often when they DO have socialists or at the very least other progressive-minded (read: progressive, NOT just liberal) people on big media shows they always pick the ones who will make the whole movement look as bad as possible. I want to see some women who REALLY know the struggle that the average american family goes through just to get by. I'm sick of 99% of reality TV stars being people who have never had to worry about how they are going to eat that night or how they are going to afford to go get medical care.
"No show me your tax returns, are you dodging those?" "Idgaf about some foundation with your name on it, that's just pretty tax sheltering, show me how you help your community" just get an insanely hot girl who is a socialist and watch them squirm under scrutiny ajdhskdhak
I think the biggest hurdle is that you often have to be in a comfortable financial situation to start with in order to get on a glamorized show like this. The women especially often do a lot of pre-show spending to get their looks on par with what's wanted, and I'm guessing that isn't funded by the show itself. If you look up some Bachelor contestants, they talk about getting $5k worth of work done and stuff like remortgaging their homes to afford it. So largely you're going to get people who can afford to spend thousands of dollars to be on TV or people in an influencer type situation who can potentially write it off as a business expense.
I've watched you for a while now and I gotta say- You need to become a producer. Or be a manager or some sort of director. You have an extremely good eye and mind for this section of the entertainment industry. You'd clearly be very good at showrunning. Especially your understanding of both the marketing/production/financial/"industry" part of shows AND the creative integrity quality entertainment creative part of making content. You're a natural executive
Amanda would make a _swell_ producer. I know she's mostly interested in acting right now so she should focus on that, but later in life (she's so young still, like damn I'm jealous) she should start taking a bigger role in the production side of things. Or maybe life will lead her there even sooner and she finds her true passion.
Been saying this about her and Grace of Beyond the Trailer for years now... imagine a reality show by Amanda, and a comic book related one by Grace... they'd be S tier, instant classics.
@@imaginekudryavka9485 this is literally the plot of GLOW Main character dreams of acting, gets involved in a project and slowly figures out that she works best behind the scenes as a producer than in front of the cameras. Too bad it got cancelled.
How about season 2 have the same "one is rich, one is poor" but also the same applies to the women - some of the women are heiresses, some are just regular woman struggling to survive. So everybody going into it knows that one guy is rich, and they all know some of the women are rich, but nobody knows which ones. I think it would be fun if the audience also wasn't told who were the "rich" contestants and the not-rich ones until they got eliminated.
In a German dating show (M.O.M) one of the girls fell in love with the producer and they got married. It was the big twist at the reunion, especially because the producer was a woman. Now they choose a donor and are having a baby.
I was studying TV production and one of our lecturers was a producer on reality TV. She told us there was once a case of a contestant falling in love with a camera man rather than one of the guys she was supposed to, and it turned into a whole dramatic thing. o-o
We need a swell bachelor show. Have a group of smaller unknown youtubers or twitch streamers fighting for actual love. Call it idk The swell seduction or something lol. Swell can be the host on the ground.
i think you’re right, they def should have chosen which woman they wanted to date after the money reveal bc who in their right mind would say “actually no, he’s poor, i’m not interested” after they know they’ve been chosen lol
I felt bad for Jenny because she just used the coin for what it was supposed to be used for. Especially after Steven was comforting Kurt because he felt guilty about talking to other women, AKA using the show for what it was supposed to be used for.
it was just bad timing. it seems steven was really into the conversation he was having and then here comes jenny. I think in an earlier episode we got to see another girl annoy steven when he was already working his charms on someone. don't think jenny was there to pick up on this though
Omg this needed a really flashy reveal, something like hell's kitchen with the doors, or both Joes have a giant ball above them and they both open at the count of 3... One has golden confetti, the other newspapers shreds...
@13:02 Jennie was sent home because when she pulls him away they talk about the same things they already went over. He felt like the relationship was going no where and felt like she used that coin but said nothing new
I cant watch any reality tv show - especially a dating show - without constantly thinking about lifetimes unREAL. It was obviously sensationalized but pulling back the curtain on how producers get reactions from contestants blew my MIND. Also love the trope of a producer contestant fling :)
I actually kind of hate dating shows because it’s basically “which beautiful blonde white woman will win” the tv show. If there’s a black woman I know she won’t win. We never win. But she’ll stay around juuuuust long enough to make you THINK she could. It’s so token. 😢 The world has so many negative feelings about us that’s not even conscious. I don’t even watch them anymore cause like… blah.
Same! I think the first and only time I've ever seen a black woman portrayed as a catch is on The Real World: Cancun (not a dating show, I know) when literally every single dude was falling over themselves for Jonna. That was like 10 years ago and it still sticks out in my mind because we just don't see that on TV
I was actually thinking the same thing lol. Well more or less- I was more like: "wait, who's who again?" I'm sorry but they all look extremely similar (even without talking about POC): beautiful thin white women with bleached/colored hair and tanned skin (but not too tan). With a few "token" black women (and no API girls ofc). Thanks guys. Because it's well known that POC only date each other, right? /s. Anyway, the only "dating" show with POC where it *SEEMS* it doesn't really matter is Love is Blind. Well I mean I've never watched it but I did see some commentary RUclipsrs talking about it and it seems like the last cast was a bit more diverse. But again, I think that's because that’s the concept of the show lol. (Rambling for a bit but: Amber is beautiful just saying. And wtf is that: sending her home because they "were not having enough fun"? Like you can have fun later. I get wanting to have fun but if you only spend time goofing off, you don’t really get to know someone. And at some point, if you don't actually connect on a deeper level, it will never last. Wtf dude.)
oml watch the Courtship! Miss Remy is amazing she's the one choosing so she's not leaving, but not only that she has the BEST personality out of anyone I've ever seen on a reality show before. She's so genuine and kind, like we're only 4 episodes in, but you can see that all the guys see that about her as well.
@@SisselSasha it might be because Steven is a millionaire so doesn't even consider the serious stuff and just wants to "have fun". I'm kind of glad she went home bc girl dodged a bullet.
I don't know if anyone else felt this way, but the way they edited Carolyn is what made me think she wasn't going to end up with Kurt. They really emphasized how much she thought they were going to be together, almost making her come off a bit too much on that front (I think it's the editing not her) which does make for a more dramatic ending when he doesn't pick her, but she was just edited too strong in her certainty to be the final pick for me.
I tried watching the show after your first review and I couldn't make it through the first episode because I realized you describe things in a way more interesting and nuanced way that humanized them far more than the actual show did. I'm guessing it'll be the same with the ending but damn the way you talk about this show makes me want to watch it!
I've actually heard this tip from a lot of older women to p much say exactly what Carolyn said to Kurt "I want you to be sure when you choose me so date around" I've heard a lot of older women say that saying this will make the dude CRAZY about you, so I feel like it was more of a tactic and her playing the game than sincerity in that moment.
@@Roblox-jb2vf thinking about that as a dude, I don't see a female romance interest saying that as something that'd make any "dude crazy about you," but it has a coolness factor appeal, where it shows the woman's secure in herself, and a nice change from the typical woman who's pushy about long term romance after one good date when we barely know each other.
I would have never know about this show if it wasn’t for you but dang watching you discuss this as been so fun and so entertaining. Hopefully you get casted is they have a season 2 lol
I totally watched this show solely because of your video. I don't watch much reality TV, and I would never have even known about the show without your first video. I also loved Carolyn's "can I go now" moment. It was perfect. I hope you get cast in season 2, I would love to see you on the show.
I mean, Amanda- the "dumping on reality" podcast idea is great, you should do it yourself. It can be a segment of the Swell Shenanigans podcast! A few videos ago you talked about trademarking business ideas and not sharing them publicly etc, and then you go and offer these guys a free idea? Nooooo waaaay. I would only watch it if *YOU* were doing it, not them. Plus they have bias since they were dumped and were on the show- you stay a 3rd party and can ask questions the audience asks!
your ending is so much better😅 i think if the start of the final day they did the big reveal and then the tension inside of everyone either questioning their choices and whether they want to change their choices and even the joes getting nervous about does this money thing still matter after going through the whole process with their final 2 like yeh, totally agree theres better ways to get more genuine answers to the does money matter question
i also think doing the money reveal before the final dates could be interesting too, like to see of it makes more of a difference and also we get to see them finally being able to open up about their daily lives and also if the conversation of that date only revolves around money or if they just chat like they have prior to knowing
I know the logistics would be a pain, but I want to see them bring all of the women back for the reveal, I want the crowd reaction! And I agree the reveal has to become before the final choices.
Your idea for the ending reveal made way more sense than what we actually got. Best of luck on season 2 ;) Also I couldn't find a video from you on it, so not sure if you ever watched, but I recently binged Fboy Island and I think you would greatly enjoy that show! It was on HBO Max last summer. I know it got renewed for a second season, but idk when that's coming.
I literally binged this show in a day yesterday after you mentioned it in The Courtship vid and watched your recap of the first two eps. I was hoping you’d revisit it and woke up to the notif. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
Lol telling someone you've known for a few weeks that you don't want to answer their questions/address their concerns because your love/connection should be enough is literally insane behaviour. "If he's insecure about everything he's not for me" while she's right, he's literally insecure because *she won't tell him anything* so all he has is his fears and anxieties
I can't lie, I have known and been a fan of Anne from her pageant days so I wanted her to win Steven. But I did both think this was trashy and good at the same time. Loved your video as always Amanda!
Me and my roommates blazed through the show in like half a week. It's just so gosh darn entertaining, every episode has more then a healthy dose of drama.
Showing the confessionals to them as a movie is such a cool idea for drama. I mean also for transparency but the idea is great. It's also cool how open the guys are about their feelings and how they're leaning on each other. Feels kinda sexist the way Kurt kept calling Carolyn dramatic. I get it was weird between them, but some people don't want to be friends after a breakup and it seems like she was hurt because they had such an attachment to each other.
Please keep doing this, make the videos longer if you need but I greatly appreciate your many hours just watching these shows plus everything else. You are great to listen to thank you
I’ve started writing a book where the heroine gets dumped on a Love Is Blind-type reality show in the prologue and then wants to just fade into oblivion but finds that a tad hard since everyone saw her get her heart broken on a worldwide reality show. 🤣
@@DinoSarma, have you read a romance novel lately? Drama is half the plot. Also, if you watch Love Is Blind, they’re absolutely convinced they’re in love. But either way, I believe the phrase I used in the first chapter was, “dumped” not “heart broken”. 😘
I watched it all the way through and felt like Amanda's mom kinda ruined it by telling Kurt she was loaded. I felt like Steven chose the blonde over Anne solely based on her looks. I didn't feel like either man was really looking for a wife. The announcement at the end could not have been more underwhelming. I was just glad Carolyn was gone she was torture. I was super bummed about Annie I liked her way more than Calla. Calla was a fence sitter.
Love this show! Really liked your ending reveal more. I wanted to see Carolyn react to Kurt being not rich because she talked about how sure he was the entire process! I’m curious if that was a factor in if she would of continued to pursue him so heavily
PLEASE DO A REVIEW of the final three episodes of The Bachelor: Clayton season. I just want to hear you expound on all the ways Clay was a bad choice for The Bachelor. Pretty please and thank you.
Manda, no offense I would watch the batch-lure clone with you as a contender and I’m sure it would be top notch entertainment but I feel like you would absolute own it as a producer - you totally understand it better than most of them out there.
I watched this show because of your first review and I was also surprised by how weak the end was compared to the rest of the season. Completely agree with you on how the reveal should have gone down.
This was so interesting and fun to watch. I watched the first episode of the show but that's as far as I got because it was just too weird - I went to high school with Steven and already knew he had the money 😂 It was too surreal to watch someone I had an impression of when we were younger be on reality t.v. But now I might have to get into it for the drama of it all. Idk how this came across my feed but thanks for the fun time lol.
I watched this all the way through solely because of your videos on it and I agree, the ending was disappointing. Then again, Carolyn kinda concerned me so I was happy she wasn't chosen.
this reminds me of a book I read yeeears ago, where a woman finds out her recently-dead partner was screwing tons of other women. And instead of it becoming negative, they all just become friends and have movie nights. Which is a good time, but a dating show probably shouldn't remind me of that lol.
I watched this show when it aired (and got really into it lol) and while I get what you mean about Carolyn not wanting to feed into Kurt's fears, it really seemed like from the moment she got a private date with him she was full-on territorial and encouraging Kurt to disregard his own rational reservations, instead of doing anything to make him feel more comfortable about the idea of being together. I don't know how much of this was the edit, but the things she said to Kurt were very manipulative, and I got the sense that he was only keeping her on because the producers wanted to add drama to the finale. Suzanne was my underrated fave but I knew she'd be sent home, they tended to go for the women with more "traditional" interests. As much as they might be the alpha type, both guys seemed very intimidated by women whose interests or backgrounds they didn't already understand.
I was clinging, til the end, to the idea that "one is definitely not" meant that Kurt was worth HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS (billions is unrealistic, we'd know him already) but mostly I'm glad you did this because this was a low-key enough show that I had a lot of "I know I streamed this but did I imagine it" moments. Much like when the original Joe Millionaire aired.
Like other have said, I’m not sure I have the patience to watch the show but I do enjoy your reviews. It feels like a friend telling you juicy gossip about people you don’t know lol.
I know it’s an ancient reality show, but it would be hilarious to see you cover the “Of Love” shows. (Flavor of Love, Rock of Love, I Love New York, Daisy of Love)
I would say, tell the four women separately from the guys, have the host tell them the truth, then tell each pair of women who the men each picked, and tell them they can go out and meet them or they can leave.
What they should REALLY do is when they make the final pick for which man they like best, they should also have to say who they think has money - because it would be interesting if they think the one they picked has money and that plays a factor, or if they DONT but like them anyway
Omg that whole thing when they were in the theatre and he was having a mental breakdown because he was doing what she asked but it felt wrong? I've never felt so sorry for a man in my life this show is good
i wonder if Rachel leaving was planned by the producers? like, maybe she had something to deal with at home so they have her an out to leave without being kicked off?
They had the a show with the same premise in Germany and they actually gave the final two the option of either getting a pretty large sum of money or being with the guy, before they did the reveal. One finalist even took the money saying she would rather date another contestant and use the money for a shared vacation. Of course the show couldn’t top that ending and subsequently ended after that season…
What‘s it called? I would love to watch that scene
Omg that show sounds great what is it called ? What an insane ending!!
@@hommefataltaemin It was called Catch the Millionaire and it happened in the second season. I don’t think it’s on RUclips, but there are some sites that have the full episodes (all in German tough) and yeah it was pretty entertaining especially, because the other contestant was also one of the finalists and they even kissed in front of the guy, while the final girl was holding a plate of money.
@@lauraschnetzer8383 Oh my god that is hilarious and awesome!
Laura Schnetzer That’s so hilarious and unfortunate for the man who went on that show to find a girlfriend lol.
Carolyn: chooses to be civil and focus on her son.
Kurt: "ShE iS bEiNg DrAmAtIc."
She dodged a bullet
I mean, she did tell him to date the other women and then complained about him doing exactly that and having another woman sitting on his lap, while she sat on Steves lap etc. She was dramatic, but he did her wrong still.
It's funny that Steven sent Jenny home because she was TOO into the idea of getting married and having kids really soon and then sent Whitney home for not being ready to get married and have a family.
Basically proves people will use anything rather than saying they just don't like you that much or they like someone else more than you
Just shows men shouldn't be the chooses! They don't know what they want!!
@@demi3329 I think that's a little unfair. Like you can want the middle ground. Someone who's super into let's get married and have kids right now is probably going to fast for some people, and someone who isn't even thinking about it and what they want regarding family life is probably going to slow for someone who is actively thinking about it. Being on the same page means going neither too fast nor too slow
@Albinojackrussel everyone wants their Goldilocks porridge and everyone likes theirs at different temperatures.. it's sad how people demonize that
lol @ funny. nah its a shows hi jinx hahaha
Steven just gives me rich guy energy because he seems to care so little about some of the serious things people talk about.
I went to high school with him - he doesn't lol.
Yes!!!
My one little insight- as someone who worked in reality tv for a couple of years, people 100% forget they are mic'ed up. I've heard bathroom breaks, talks about illegal activity, deeply personal traumatic anecdotes from people who are off camera talking but they've left the lav on, ect. after the first like 10-15 minutes most people forget about it. like they know they have a mic on, but its like they forget the connotations of what that means- that everyone can hear you and you are being recorded.
I totally agree about how good of a host Martin was! I don’t think you mentioned but in that scene with Brianna, I recall him telling her something like “My advice is don’t talk to the men for the rest of the night” basically he saw she was a wreck and didn’t want her to ruin her chances, as she was one the men repeatedly said was a great person but lacked confidence and was kind of a mess. She was sweet but def agree with that. But I just loved Martin!
That actually sounds like a wonderful person.
Martin needs to host other shows. I loved him more than the two guys.
Kurt doesn't seem like he's hurting for money at all. Like, his family seems solidly upper middle class, he is still the CEO of a business and his net worth is more than $1mil... So even if he doesn't have a literal million in liquid cash, neither of the men have average income. Median net worth for a 30 something is only $35,000. Millennials are out here trying to afford basics and rent. I just looked up the original Joe Millionaire, and he was working class construction worker. I would have preferred the alternative to be working class / not a CEO at least.
well that's kinda the problem with them being friends irl; the concept is fun but most rich guys don't have poor friends
@stancharlinow I can't believe how lazy this was. Find a salt of the earth, stoic, extremely handsome, well built dude who doesn't realize his worth-- get HIM on the show with women who will pour themselves into his cup, let's see THAT love story, not yet another well-to-do douchey duo who don't actually want to get to know someone as much as "find someone good enough for them"
I'm over it
Historically the idea has been tried and someone very working class usually gives the game away when compared to someone really rich because well they don't know the intricacies of being rich. But yeah the show felt a bit hollow because the question was "Here are 2 rich dudes, one is just ultra rich" lol.
@@nailinthefashion honestly your whole comment about "doesn't know his worth" is cringe and wouldn't t make for good tv. no one wants an insecure partner. plus it's not women's jobs to "pour into them so he realizes his worth"
Right?? I kept forgetting which was supposed to be the poor one because both have more money than I'll ever have, which kind of made the entire thing seem vain and lavish.
I think it would be fun to find women willing to go on this show who DON'T want to date a millionaire as well. Like... Cast a few socialist women who believe millionaires shouldn't exist. It will add another layer of tension to the mix as we, the audience, get to watch someone morally opposed to hoarding wealth maybe fall in love with generational wealth.
Yes
That is genius. Someone make that happen immediately
YESSSSS!!!!! And please make sure they are well versed in economics and policy; too often when they DO have socialists or at the very least other progressive-minded (read: progressive, NOT just liberal) people on big media shows they always pick the ones who will make the whole movement look as bad as possible. I want to see some women who REALLY know the struggle that the average american family goes through just to get by. I'm sick of 99% of reality TV stars being people who have never had to worry about how they are going to eat that night or how they are going to afford to go get medical care.
"No show me your tax returns, are you dodging those?" "Idgaf about some foundation with your name on it, that's just pretty tax sheltering, show me how you help your community" just get an insanely hot girl who is a socialist and watch them squirm under scrutiny ajdhskdhak
I think the biggest hurdle is that you often have to be in a comfortable financial situation to start with in order to get on a glamorized show like this. The women especially often do a lot of pre-show spending to get their looks on par with what's wanted, and I'm guessing that isn't funded by the show itself. If you look up some Bachelor contestants, they talk about getting $5k worth of work done and stuff like remortgaging their homes to afford it. So largely you're going to get people who can afford to spend thousands of dollars to be on TV or people in an influencer type situation who can potentially write it off as a business expense.
I've watched you for a while now and I gotta say-
You need to become a producer. Or be a manager or some sort of director. You have an extremely good eye and mind for this section of the entertainment industry. You'd clearly be very good at showrunning. Especially your understanding of both the marketing/production/financial/"industry" part of shows AND the creative integrity quality entertainment creative part of making content. You're a natural executive
Seconded
Amanda would make a _swell_ producer. I know she's mostly interested in acting right now so she should focus on that, but later in life (she's so young still, like damn I'm jealous) she should start taking a bigger role in the production side of things. Or maybe life will lead her there even sooner and she finds her true passion.
Been saying this about her and Grace of Beyond the Trailer for years now... imagine a reality show by Amanda, and a comic book related one by Grace... they'd be S tier, instant classics.
@@imaginekudryavka9485 this is literally the plot of GLOW
Main character dreams of acting, gets involved in a project and slowly figures out that she works best behind the scenes as a producer than in front of the cameras. Too bad it got cancelled.
true but or she can avoid all the abuse in that industry and just stay in her home producing her own stuff like she is already doing
I'm not a big fan of reality TV. I don't have the patience to watch it, but I always appreciate your synopsis of shows like this!
If you want a show that's reality TV ish but very good I recommend the first season of the circle
I love to watch reality tv through the eyes of others because they edit out all the boring parts and recap (omg the recap)
@@Grace-er9ep And ALL the commercial breaks. Lol!
@@unknownLC so true! Between the breaks and the recap it's a wonder there's any time left for the actual show at all lol!
Same, but that's why I watch Amanda talk about it instead xD Her passion makes it fun to listen to.
How about season 2 have the same "one is rich, one is poor" but also the same applies to the women - some of the women are heiresses, some are just regular woman struggling to survive. So everybody going into it knows that one guy is rich, and they all know some of the women are rich, but nobody knows which ones. I think it would be fun if the audience also wasn't told who were the "rich" contestants and the not-rich ones until they got eliminated.
yes!!! i love this premise.
Why aren’t you a producer? You genuinely know how shows should be run, you’d be great at it
In a German dating show (M.O.M) one of the girls fell in love with the producer and they got married. It was the big twist at the reunion, especially because the producer was a woman. Now they choose a donor and are having a baby.
I was studying TV production and one of our lecturers was a producer on reality TV. She told us there was once a case of a contestant falling in love with a camera man rather than one of the guys she was supposed to, and it turned into a whole dramatic thing. o-o
I really want to watch the reunion episode now!
Aw yay! Happy twist endings are so fun! Gotta watch this now
We need a swell bachelor show. Have a group of smaller unknown youtubers or twitch streamers fighting for actual love. Call it idk The swell seduction or something lol. Swell can be the host on the ground.
Yeah but it's actual kickboxing and not just games
pls this sounds so fun
Look up Love or Host for something similar to that!
@@superlolgal555 no. I'm aware of love or host and all the twitch dating stream. It has to be like the bachelor not a virtual fake date
Wow id actually buy youtube red
i think you’re right, they def should have chosen which woman they wanted to date after the money reveal bc who in their right mind would say “actually no, he’s poor, i’m not interested” after they know they’ve been chosen lol
I felt bad for Jenny because she just used the coin for what it was supposed to be used for. Especially after Steven was comforting Kurt because he felt guilty about talking to other women, AKA using the show for what it was supposed to be used for.
Right, like was she just suppose to keep the coin and not use it?
I think its the specific situation she used the coin for that rubbed him the wrong way
Yea I think it really came to the girl's looks and ages. She was older and I think that was the actual reason.
it was just bad timing. it seems steven was really into the conversation he was having and then here comes jenny. I think in an earlier episode we got to see another girl annoy steven when he was already working his charms on someone. don't think jenny was there to pick up on this though
Omg this needed a really flashy reveal, something like hell's kitchen with the doors, or both Joes have a giant ball above them and they both open at the count of 3... One has golden confetti, the other newspapers shreds...
Wait, so it ended that one guy was rich and the other guy was. ... slightly less rich?
yes 🤣 so ridiculous
@13:02 Jennie was sent home because when she pulls him away they talk about the same things they already went over. He felt like the relationship was going no where and felt like she used that coin but said nothing new
I cant watch any reality tv show - especially a dating show - without constantly thinking about lifetimes unREAL. It was obviously sensationalized but pulling back the curtain on how producers get reactions from contestants blew my MIND. Also love the trope of a producer contestant fling :)
Same here! That show is so underrated
I wish she would give her review of that show!
I think the "in the moments" you mentioned are generally called "talking heads." Because they only show the head and shoulders.
some people also call them confessionals
I actually kind of hate dating shows because it’s basically “which beautiful blonde white woman will win” the tv show. If there’s a black woman I know she won’t win. We never win. But she’ll stay around juuuuust long enough to make you THINK she could. It’s so token. 😢 The world has so many negative feelings about us that’s not even conscious. I don’t even watch them anymore cause like… blah.
Same! I think the first and only time I've ever seen a black woman portrayed as a catch is on The Real World: Cancun (not a dating show, I know) when literally every single dude was falling over themselves for Jonna. That was like 10 years ago and it still sticks out in my mind because we just don't see that on TV
I was actually thinking the same thing lol. Well more or less- I was more like: "wait, who's who again?" I'm sorry but they all look extremely similar (even without talking about POC): beautiful thin white women with bleached/colored hair and tanned skin (but not too tan). With a few "token" black women (and no API girls ofc). Thanks guys. Because it's well known that POC only date each other, right? /s. Anyway, the only "dating" show with POC where it *SEEMS* it doesn't really matter is Love is Blind. Well I mean I've never watched it but I did see some commentary RUclipsrs talking about it and it seems like the last cast was a bit more diverse. But again, I think that's because that’s the concept of the show lol.
(Rambling for a bit but: Amber is beautiful just saying. And wtf is that: sending her home because they "were not having enough fun"? Like you can have fun later. I get wanting to have fun but if you only spend time goofing off, you don’t really get to know someone. And at some point, if you don't actually connect on a deeper level, it will never last. Wtf dude.)
oml watch the Courtship! Miss Remy is amazing she's the one choosing so she's not leaving, but not only that she has the BEST personality out of anyone I've ever seen on a reality show before. She's so genuine and kind, like we're only 4 episodes in, but you can see that all the guys see that about her as well.
@@SisselSasha it might be because Steven is a millionaire so doesn't even consider the serious stuff and just wants to "have fun". I'm kind of glad she went home bc girl dodged a bullet.
@@BijouxBianco I looked that up just now and I'm like....is this supposed to be a black woman?...
I don't know if anyone else felt this way, but the way they edited Carolyn is what made me think she wasn't going to end up with Kurt. They really emphasized how much she thought they were going to be together, almost making her come off a bit too much on that front (I think it's the editing not her) which does make for a more dramatic ending when he doesn't pick her, but she was just edited too strong in her certainty to be the final pick for me.
I agree that your idea for the reveal would work much better, it puts a spanner in the works but still gives the women a choice in their response
I have not watched a single second of this show but I loved your recaps. Reality tv just isn't for me but hearing the drama is a lot of fun.
I tried watching the show after your first review and I couldn't make it through the first episode because I realized you describe things in a way more interesting and nuanced way that humanized them far more than the actual show did. I'm guessing it'll be the same with the ending but damn the way you talk about this show makes me want to watch it!
8:19 how is Carolyn getting possessive when she told him to date other women 😭
I've actually heard this tip from a lot of older women to p much say exactly what Carolyn said to Kurt "I want you to be sure when you choose me so date around" I've heard a lot of older women say that saying this will make the dude CRAZY about you, so I feel like it was more of a tactic and her playing the game than sincerity in that moment.
@@Roblox-jb2vf thinking about that as a dude, I don't see a female romance interest saying that as something that'd make any "dude crazy about you," but it has a coolness factor appeal, where it shows the woman's secure in herself, and a nice change from the typical woman who's pushy about long term romance after one good date when we barely know each other.
I would have never know about this show if it wasn’t for you but dang watching you discuss this as been so fun and so entertaining. Hopefully you get casted is they have a season 2 lol
Oh I REALLY love the twist of having the contestants get to vote on how well the tv show portrayed each other.
I totally watched this show solely because of your video. I don't watch much reality TV, and I would never have even known about the show without your first video.
I also loved Carolyn's "can I go now" moment. It was perfect.
I hope you get cast in season 2, I would love to see you on the show.
I mean, Amanda- the "dumping on reality" podcast idea is great, you should do it yourself. It can be a segment of the Swell Shenanigans podcast! A few videos ago you talked about trademarking business ideas and not sharing them publicly etc, and then you go and offer these guys a free idea? Nooooo waaaay. I would only watch it if *YOU* were doing it, not them. Plus they have bias since they were dumped and were on the show- you stay a 3rd party and can ask questions the audience asks!
your ending is so much better😅 i think if the start of the final day they did the big reveal and then the tension inside of everyone either questioning their choices and whether they want to change their choices and even the joes getting nervous about does this money thing still matter after going through the whole process with their final 2 like yeh, totally agree theres better ways to get more genuine answers to the does money matter question
i also think doing the money reveal before the final dates could be interesting too, like to see of it makes more of a difference and also we get to see them finally being able to open up about their daily lives and also if the conversation of that date only revolves around money or if they just chat like they have prior to knowing
I know the logistics would be a pain, but I want to see them bring all of the women back for the reveal, I want the crowd reaction! And I agree the reveal has to become before the final choices.
Your idea for the ending reveal made way more sense than what we actually got. Best of luck on season 2 ;)
Also I couldn't find a video from you on it, so not sure if you ever watched, but I recently binged Fboy Island and I think you would greatly enjoy that show! It was on HBO Max last summer. I know it got renewed for a second season, but idk when that's coming.
I literally binged this show in a day yesterday after you mentioned it in The Courtship vid and watched your recap of the first two eps. I was hoping you’d revisit it and woke up to the notif. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
Lol telling someone you've known for a few weeks that you don't want to answer their questions/address their concerns because your love/connection should be enough is literally insane behaviour.
"If he's insecure about everything he's not for me" while she's right, he's literally insecure because *she won't tell him anything* so all he has is his fears and anxieties
I can't lie, I have known and been a fan of Anne from her pageant days so I wanted her to win Steven. But I did both think this was trashy and good at the same time. Loved your video as always Amanda!
Me and my roommates blazed through the show in like half a week. It's just so gosh darn entertaining, every episode has more then a healthy dose of drama.
OMG, i would see the show just to see you awkwardly interact with the crew. Also, your ending makes more sense. Finally, good idea for the podcast.
Showing the confessionals to them as a movie is such a cool idea for drama. I mean also for transparency but the idea is great. It's also cool how open the guys are about their feelings and how they're leaning on each other. Feels kinda sexist the way Kurt kept calling Carolyn dramatic. I get it was weird between them, but some people don't want to be friends after a breakup and it seems like she was hurt because they had such an attachment to each other.
Please keep doing this, make the videos longer if you need but I greatly appreciate your many hours just watching these shows plus everything else. You are great to listen to thank you
I’ve started writing a book where the heroine gets dumped on a Love Is Blind-type reality show in the prologue and then wants to just fade into oblivion but finds that a tad hard since everyone saw her get her heart broken on a worldwide reality show. 🤣
It’s a little dramatic to say “heart broken” when booted off a dating show on the first episode.
@@DinoSarma, have you read a romance novel lately? Drama is half the plot. Also, if you watch Love Is Blind, they’re absolutely convinced they’re in love. But either way, I believe the phrase I used in the first chapter was, “dumped” not “heart broken”. 😘
I watched it all the way through and felt like Amanda's mom kinda ruined it by telling Kurt she was loaded. I felt like Steven chose the blonde over Anne solely based on her looks. I didn't feel like either man was really looking for a wife. The announcement at the end could not have been more underwhelming. I was just glad Carolyn was gone she was torture. I was super bummed about Annie I liked her way more than Calla. Calla was a fence sitter.
wait, Anne looks amazing though. superficially, id choose her over Cailagh(?). Beauty is a lot subjective i guess.
I'm never going to watch a show like this, but I enjoy your summaries haha 😄
Kurt more attractive than anyone I would ever have a chance with so, no, it wouldn't bother me that he isn't rich lol
Love this show! Really liked your ending reveal more. I wanted to see Carolyn react to Kurt being not rich because she talked about how sure he was the entire process! I’m curious if that was a factor in if she would of continued to pursue him so heavily
A new video from Amanda! Yes! I had a long day and then to fall back on something you created with joy... thank you.
13:45 In her defence...he IS hot.
I was also thinking that 💀 the other guys aren’t my type at all, but Winston? Yes ma’am
Simping and commenting for Swell!
This is what life's all about! 🙆♀️
PLEASE DO A REVIEW of the final three episodes of The Bachelor: Clayton season. I just want to hear you expound on all the ways Clay was a bad choice for The Bachelor. Pretty please and thank you.
When’re we getting the show about who’s going to win Martin’s love?
Your first video introduced me to this show and I LOVED it omg I loved just about every messy aspect of it, it was gold so THANK YOU
this show actually seems really fun! i'd pay to see you in season 2 haha
Manda, no offense I would watch the batch-lure clone with you as a contender and I’m sure it would be top notch entertainment but I feel like you would absolute own it as a producer - you totally understand it better than most of them out there.
I watched this show because of your first review and I was also surprised by how weak the end was compared to the rest of the season. Completely agree with you on how the reveal should have gone down.
YAY!!!!!!!! I loved Amanda's first video on JM. I was hoping she would do another. Day just got so much better!
This was so interesting and fun to watch. I watched the first episode of the show but that's as far as I got because it was just too weird - I went to high school with Steven and already knew he had the money 😂 It was too surreal to watch someone I had an impression of when we were younger be on reality t.v. But now I might have to get into it for the drama of it all. Idk how this came across my feed but thanks for the fun time lol.
wow!! super weird!!
I just realized the best way for this type of show to end would be for the two guys to get together hehe
You should give “married at first sight” a look it’s pretty full on. Love your content.
MAFS is out of controlllll I love it!!
I watched this all the way through solely because of your videos on it and I agree, the ending was disappointing. Then again, Carolyn kinda concerned me so I was happy she wasn't chosen.
What you call In The Moments I've always heard referred to as confessionals
I love when you talk about reality TV. Also from what I can see that top looks killer on you 🙌
The wiggle art in the bg!!!!!!!
Look at all those wiggles! 😆
Amanda, if you need someone on the show with you, I gotcha! I wouldn’t mind doing this! It seems like a lot of fun!
Are there any gay reality dating shows? I urgently need to find a millionaire helicopter pilot boyfriend just as attractive as Steven.
Seconded! Bonus points if Amanda is host.
If you haven't watched Prince Charming then you are missing out. That show only had one season I think but it still lives rent-free in my head.
@@nbucwa6621 Where can I watch it? I’ve been trying to find it everywhere, to no success.
@@genericgamefan6621 I sail the high seas of the internet my friend. I have no idea where you could legitimately watch it
this reminds me of a book I read yeeears ago, where a woman finds out her recently-dead partner was screwing tons of other women. And instead of it becoming negative, they all just become friends and have movie nights. Which is a good time, but a dating show probably shouldn't remind me of that lol.
Please tell me the book. I want to read it.
@@DinoSarma "Dogrun" by Arthur Nersessian
genuine enthusiasm and the electric smile, i had to sub lol
I really do not like reality tv, but I love your videos on it. Thanks for the Swell Entertainment
Martin was just so wholesome. He stole the show. 😌
the fit is serving. thank you for blessing my eyes
I watched this show when it aired (and got really into it lol) and while I get what you mean about Carolyn not wanting to feed into Kurt's fears, it really seemed like from the moment she got a private date with him she was full-on territorial and encouraging Kurt to disregard his own rational reservations, instead of doing anything to make him feel more comfortable about the idea of being together. I don't know how much of this was the edit, but the things she said to Kurt were very manipulative, and I got the sense that he was only keeping her on because the producers wanted to add drama to the finale. Suzanne was my underrated fave but I knew she'd be sent home, they tended to go for the women with more "traditional" interests. As much as they might be the alpha type, both guys seemed very intimidated by women whose interests or backgrounds they didn't already understand.
I was clinging, til the end, to the idea that "one is definitely not" meant that Kurt was worth HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS (billions is unrealistic, we'd know him already) but mostly I'm glad you did this because this was a low-key enough show that I had a lot of "I know I streamed this but did I imagine it" moments. Much like when the original Joe Millionaire aired.
Good for Carolyn, she's gotta protect her own emotions and who cares if that guy feels like she's being "dramatic"
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Like other have said, I’m not sure I have the patience to watch the show but I do enjoy your reviews. It feels like a friend telling you juicy gossip about people you don’t know lol.
I know it’s an ancient reality show, but it would be hilarious to see you cover the “Of Love” shows. (Flavor of Love, Rock of Love, I Love New York, Daisy of Love)
Your dress really makes your eyes pop it looks good. Also, love your dog. (Am only at the beginning of the video but needed to say it)
I'm so ready to see you on a realty show!
petition for swell not to be on a show but to host her own dating show
The problem with sharing the ITM's is now people won't be as open in future seasons.
Thank you William for keeping us fed with this content
I love how the "poor person" still owns their own fucking business
he's upper middle class at least
I watched the show bc of you and I also need a second season. They should take all your notes.
I desperately need one of these dating shows to end with some of the women getting together instead of with the guy the drama would be 10000000000/10
I'd never watch this show, but I love your commentary on it 🥰
Your reality show recaps are so good
i believe another term i've heard for "in the moment" sort of clips is "talking head" segments
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS UPDATE!
After your last video about the show, I started watching lol ... not gonna lie, was very entertaining 🤣
I just cannot watch reality shows but this I absolutely loved!! I have kept recommending it to everyone. lol
Why was it not called the millionnaire and the pauper?
I would say, tell the four women separately from the guys, have the host tell them the truth, then tell each pair of women who the men each picked, and tell them they can go out and meet them or they can leave.
this video is the most anticipated sequel of the century
What they should REALLY do is when they make the final pick for which man they like best, they should also have to say who they think has money - because it would be interesting if they think the one they picked has money and that plays a factor, or if they DONT but like them anyway
When you said they connected with the producer it reminded me of that one SNL sketch
As a Carolyn, we just get used to people calling us Caroline and stop correcting them lol
thank you for the clarification Caroline.
This is an underrated joke
Yess, I was waiting for another one of this!
you have such an eye of media i love it
YESSS i've been anticipating the follow up!
Omg that whole thing when they were in the theatre and he was having a mental breakdown because he was doing what she asked but it felt wrong? I've never felt so sorry for a man in my life this show is good
i wonder if Rachel leaving was planned by the producers? like, maybe she had something to deal with at home so they have her an out to leave without being kicked off?