DF - is the only youtube channel where I watch every video. I don't like football (soccer?) and not interested in it, BUT I like to see how game engine works and how it scales through different platforms. Thank you, DF!
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The developers should really think about adding game types to these games, something like an NBA Jam mode or Megaman Soccer where the player count is reduce and you could use ridiculous power ups and shots on a smaller field. Or maybe a forge mode were the gamers can create their own gametypes and fields that can drastically change the experience
Excellent vid, id definitely recommend picking Fifa up on Console, the PC port has a very small player base, delayed dev support with patches/updates and problems with hackers and cheaters. Origin is also causing numerous problems for users not allowing them to download the port lol
Yeah is a small player base in comparison to consoles but still you can get matches easily, day one squad updates came first for pc today so don`t know where you are getting that from, hackers and cheaters get banned like every game so not really a problem. Also mods, having an ultra lod for gameplay camera is beautiful, new boots and kits textures already in fifa 17 so definitely coming for 18.
Fifa 18 = fifa 17 - volumetric lighting Fifa 19 = fifa 17 - shadows Fifa 20 = fifa 17 - ambient occlusion Fifa 21 = fifa 17 + more volumetric effects And people says wow EA did a great job on graphics. Of course EA is not robbing fan kids.
Is it the volumetric lighting that makes fifa 17 look better than fifa 21 on my ps5? What a lovely game! Even the shooting mechanics and animations are a gen apart from all other fifas. I permanently uninstalled my fifa 21 because of this game. I'm very sure EA accidentally made this game so good.
I was able to run the game on my old laptop using the Nvidia GT 750M running the game on 720p medium at 60fps only getting frame drops during the intro. This is by far the best frostbite engine game in terms of performance to run on my old laptop.
+Day grass looks better. +Lighting looks better. -Night grass color is still horrible. -Night Overcast is still horrible. -Volumetric lighting is dead.
You would think that the PC and PS4 Pro would do 60fps even with the replays, I remember on a version of Fifa about 2 or so years ago where you could force it to do 60fps for replays and it didn't really use that much power, I can understand 30fps for the base consoles but the PC and PS4 Pro should really have 60fps replays in this day and age. Will be interesting to see how the Switch version holds up to these.
I hope PS4 pro has option to use 1080p resolution as well. On not so powerful pc, if i reduced graphic setting, the gameplay will become much more lively. It’s not about fps. I am not sure why since i dont have technical explanation for this. Probably with lower graphic setting, Fifa can utilize processor more? For Fifa 17 on ps4 pro, i feel the gameplay is not as lively as on decent pc at 1080p.
GameMasterpg They are only looking at current relevant consoles, the 360 and PS3 are STILL getting games but they are more than a decade old so they dont review it
Dear DigitalFoundry It's a common issue when I turn HDR on ( Samsung KS9000) the colors become faded on PS4 Pro, even if I switch color space to Auto. What do you think about this problem? Have you experienced it yet? It's really annoying.
hi mate i got same tv colours look great on fifa my colours setting is 65 and backlight 18 contrast 95 brightness 45 mine is also on auto colour space black level normal make sure the ps4 is on rgb it will switch when in 4k mode anyway to yuv422 mode just leave it in rgb its is also on warm 1 and in game mode hope this helps
Guys many of you understand from pc I assume, so maybe you can tell me a solution to a problem that Im having. I have a AMD 6850 overclocked 870/1150 stock voltage (I know its old dont kill me yet) while I was playing a game screen froze in a very different way, like colors were mixed together, so I reboot the pc. But now, after windows logo, black screen appears and doesnt go away so I can not reach to my desktop screen. Just constant black screen everytime after windows logo. I can open windows in safe mode, no problem. And when I delete drivers I can boot the pc without a problem. But you know I cant use my gpu this way. So something wrong with GPU itself as hardware ? or is it because of drivers, software ? and what do I do in this case other than buying a new card. But I must tell I was using the same driver just fine until this problem has occured. Thanks.
PS4 and xbox one exactly same graphics. The extra 50% GPU speed of PS4 is clearly not used Also, PS4 pro does not have enough power to run games with 4 times as much pixel as PS4 even you if drop anti-aliasing. The game is clearly not using the full power of PS4. Other 1080p games on PS4 usually runs only 1440p or checkerboard 1800p/2160p on PS4 pro. So, it very clear that base PS4 version is not using it full power in this game.
What did I ignore ?! What is the difference between xbox one and base PS4 version ? The video clearly mention that it is identical between the two PS4 pro can't runs 4 times pixel as PS4 unless the game is not using base PS4 full power like fifa 17 (the fact that PS4 and Xbox one are identical is proof that PS4 GPU extra power is not being used)
Beats, Games, Life -ZimM804 Ps4 pro is weak it can't do 4k only Checkboard rending or Super sampling lol 😂😂😂 Xbox one X can do some games in native 4k 60 fps other's use Checkboard rending but it's just coming out
Well, not sure why YOU would build a PC, but the rest of the population? Options. They exist. Not everyone is a die hard Sony fan, nor a die hard MS fan. Some just want to play a game on their preferred hardware.
I use PC because of it's flexibility in allowing me to play games the way I want too and not be forced to play them how the developers tell us to play them like on consoles.
DF - is the only youtube channel where I watch every video. I don't like football (soccer?) and not interested in it, BUT I like to see how game engine works and how it scales through different platforms. Thank you, DF!
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50% chance of one of the replies to that comment - "You were a mistake"
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Proper in-depth as always by Digital Foundry impressive stuff. Keep up the brilliant work. I second a look at the Switch version vs PS4 Pro/XBone.
The developers should really think about adding game types to these games, something like an NBA Jam mode or Megaman Soccer where the player count is reduce and you could use ridiculous power ups and shots on a smaller field. Or maybe a forge mode were the gamers can create their own gametypes and fields that can drastically change the experience
They need a Rocket League mode as well. With walls!
Excellent vid, id definitely recommend picking Fifa up on Console, the PC port has a very small player base, delayed dev support with patches/updates and problems with hackers and cheaters. Origin is also causing numerous problems for users not allowing them to download the port lol
And I wouldn't recommend buying any Ubisoft/EA/Activision games ever. Except Titanfall 2 and Garden Warfare 2.
For the first time ever dizzy, i agree with you.
Same goes for COD
Yeah is a small player base in comparison to consoles but still you can get matches easily, day one squad updates came first for pc today so don`t know where you are getting that from, hackers and cheaters get banned like every game so not really a problem.
Also mods, having an ultra lod for gameplay camera is beautiful, new boots and kits textures already in fifa 17 so definitely coming for 18.
cheese
Sane people do not play fps on console.
The first Fifa I played was back in 2005. Looking back at it and what we have today just shows how far the series has come :)
my first fifa was back in 1994, even more of a difference lol
Is Marvel vs Capcom coming soon. P.S Welcome back DigitalFoundry
As a non sports gamer...I'm always curious why people buy installment every year?
Dave where is Richard. Is he working on something delicious for us fans.
Enabling comments under these videos WAS A MISTAKE.
But that's the only reason people come, lol. If they disabled comments i guarantee they would get 50% or more less views.
Nejc
Stop denying that 90% of us, maybe even you, get a kick out of these comment wars.
No nintendo switch comp?
I don't think you'd really need much AA at 4k, since the PPI of 4K screens are generally close to the limits of what we can discern as pixels.
Give the switch its own video please
just played a couple of games on my switch I'm very impressed it plays very well
I have been a pes fan since FIFA 12. I bought FIFA on switch yesterday and was really impressed by how well it plays.
Why? So people have some laugh?
Nobody cares about the switch. Can’t even buy it
In Australia they didn't stock many copies. I think it sold out on switch within first weekend
As always, PC, PS4 Pro, PS4 and... you know what console is in last place.
Ouya?
The last one is always pc
Hamad Alsayed MacBook?
C'mon guys, Shitbox One!!
Hamad Alsayed, you could at least come up with a better, not so overused insult for the console name.
Where's the switch version?
Everyone saying PS4 Pro is a mistake obviously didn’t watch the video
Obviously. They just commented before even reading the full title
Fifa 18 = fifa 17 - volumetric lighting
Fifa 19 = fifa 17 - shadows
Fifa 20 = fifa 17 - ambient occlusion
Fifa 21 = fifa 17 + more volumetric effects
And people says wow EA did a great job on graphics. Of course EA is not robbing fan kids.
Is it the volumetric lighting that makes fifa 17 look better than fifa 21 on my ps5? What a lovely game! Even the shooting mechanics and animations are a gen apart from all other fifas. I permanently uninstalled my fifa 21 because of this game. I'm very sure EA accidentally made this game so good.
Having read the comments at all , but I do hope all versions are good and working. Videogames should just be enjoyed period
I was able to run the game on my old laptop using the Nvidia GT 750M
running the game on 720p medium at 60fps only getting frame drops during the intro.
This is by far the best frostbite engine game in terms of performance to run on my old laptop.
Basically, a review comparing FIFA 17 and FIFA 18, using the PS$ ad PS4 Pro. Not much was said about the Xbox one but, a great review nonetheless.
time to sit back, put my feet up, grab some popcorn, and read the comment section, wish me luck!
Oh yea they bring back the comperesing music, I really missed that.
I remerber back than I clicked on a compresing just for the music.
When showing the PC version it would make a lot more sense if you used Origin logo instead of Windows 10.
+Day grass looks better.
+Lighting looks better.
-Night grass color is still horrible.
-Night Overcast is still horrible.
-Volumetric lighting is dead.
You would think that the PC and PS4 Pro would do 60fps even with the replays, I remember on a version of Fifa about 2 or so years ago where you could force it to do 60fps for replays and it didn't really use that much power, I can understand 30fps for the base consoles but the PC and PS4 Pro should really have 60fps replays in this day and age.
Will be interesting to see how the Switch version holds up to these.
Can you guys do switch vs ps4 for fifa 2018 please? Im in doubt which version to get...
they charge 3 or 4 times for the same game unbelievable!! plus I've never been to a football match that moves that slowly.
I wonder what's taking frostbite 4 so long, there was only like 2 years between frostbite 2 and 3
+DigitalFoundry - does the Xbox One version still feature slight screen tearing at the top of the screen during (some) close-ups?
I can’t believe people are still buying this game year in year out
Native 4k 60fps on Pro, nice.
Native 4K on game that runs max out on mid ranged PC ?!
The PC version is still better because you can use higher anti-aliasing
ps4 pro is 400$
330 euro
Plus 60fps on replays which look good.
PS4 Pro is $350
With $350, you could barely buy a GTX 1060 in most countries.
Fifa 18 = Same game you play every year with minor difference. Why people pay for this trash ?!
Because sheeple.
I still play FIFA 2002 on my GameCube sometimes when my friends come over and we get drunk.
Still have my Fifa 96 Copy for PS1 :D
Please do Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 Switch vs PS4 analysis comparision next!!!
We all came to see the Switch comparisson... *STEP UP YOUR GAME DF!!!*
Why don't you guys do videos for other EA Sports titles like Madden or NHL?
Where is the Swtich version?
KING true
Disable comments on anything you gonna compare to ps4 n xbox please dont feed the war
There is no such thing as "ps4 fans versus xbox fans"
There is *braindead pc peasants versus everyone, especially ps4*
19HajimeSaitou91i got to agree haha thats for sure
19HajimeSaitou91, I completely disagree. I see PS4 fans fighting Xbox fans all the time.
I hope PS4 pro has option to use 1080p resolution as well. On not so powerful pc, if i reduced graphic setting, the gameplay will become much more lively. It’s not about fps. I am not sure why since i dont have technical explanation for this. Probably with lower graphic setting, Fifa can utilize processor more? For Fifa 17 on ps4 pro, i feel the gameplay is not as lively as on decent pc at 1080p.
Have u completely forgotten about the Switch? Where your Nba2k18 comparison?
If you ever wondered how fifa 17 would look with better graphics and a different cover, here's your answer.
Why do I keep seeing soccer & not Madden...Would like to get some PS4 Pro info on Madden...Resolution / Performance and HDR quality please
*PS4:*
*OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU*
*PC:*
*NANI?!*
SWITCH:
ORE MO IRU YO
LMAO,who still laughing on rise of the tomb raider run 21fps on xbox one x
OG JOHN it's true?
Woooow... Just wow...
Grow up.
OG JOHN only you kid
Xbox one X was a mistake
Is Phil Spencer your dad?how did you get Xbox one x? it is not even released yet
Ps4 Pro was a mistake
*Waits for his playground insults*
Does it downsample On pro to full HD?
Kaiser - Blog + yes
Lots of aliasing around the field, i don't think there is supersampling
why I still saw a little bit laggy at 60fps of FIFA 18?? =(
Wow FIFA 18 looks way more realistic
How bout some vids of rise of the tomb raider?
Seems you never make vids for that game.......
No switch? Come on yall.
Doctre81 that doesn't count
Fifa 12 was the last one I bought. If you get them with a 2 year delay even, you can get them for a fiver. No point buying new Fifa games :D
i would love to see a xenoverse 2 on switch performance comparison to ps4
PC is a placeholder for X.B.O.X until its releases
Remember kids, fifa 18 got cracked within 24hrs...damn you Pc gamers
Could have at least mention upcoming Xbox one x version coming soon. Technically should be equal to PC or ps4 pro
I'm not sure if I want to buy the PC version after all the .Net error pop ups in FIFA 17
I was just mowing the GRAWSS.
Not that anyone cares anymore but this game is also on XBox360
GameMasterpg Probably runs at 720p60
I know but if they are looking at all version they shouldn't leave out X360.
GameMasterpg They are only looking at current relevant consoles, the 360 and PS3 are STILL getting games but they are more than a decade old so they dont review it
they didnt bother with the switch version either, which is current, but then again that one looks like utter trash
DigitailFoundry just Reviewed Switch vs X360
Did he say native 4k on ps4 pro. .wow..am impressed. Well done pro..your not a complete waste of the word upgrade
Orlanzo Telfer mid range pcs runs it native 4k 60fps even at the cutscenes
Can you Guys do 1 on Madden 17 and Madden 18
Xbox One X is too OP to be listed oh, and it's not out yet
Dear DigitalFoundry
It's a common issue when I turn HDR on ( Samsung KS9000) the colors become faded on PS4 Pro, even if I switch color space to Auto. What do you think about this problem? Have you experienced it yet? It's really annoying.
hi mate i got same tv colours look great on fifa my colours setting is 65 and backlight 18 contrast 95 brightness 45 mine is also on auto colour space black level normal make sure the ps4 is on rgb it will switch when in 4k mode anyway to yuv422 mode just leave it in rgb its is also on warm 1 and in game mode hope this helps
Clive K ill check it out. Thanks 😊
PS4 Pro run at 4K! In your face Xbox fan boys that said this game only runs at 4K on Xbox One X
GameMasterpg This game isnt even demanding lmao
No one said that.
both pro 2018 and this got slightly downgrades compared to their 2017 iteration
Gameplay look fantastic and realistic
STAR FOX 2 ANALYSIS PLEASE.
Review the Switch version please
Whoever narrates this video sounds like he’s really depressed.
Where's the snes Classic review?
NO Switch? ???
Oh wait
J Riibz switch it off
J Riibz stop it. Get some help
That's right, FIFA 17 didn't come out for the Switch last year, mainly because the system wasn't out.
It's about to release lol
Lol I'm so dumb. Switch didn't exist 2017
Not much left to improve now.
If ps4 pro handle this in native 4k
Xbox one x can reach native 6k
native 4k rock solid 60fps at ultra well done ps4 pro
Please put a deesser on the vo tracks. It’s really distracting
I want this for my Atari Jaguar
U just said 60 FPS on PS4 ?!
Guys many of you understand from pc I assume, so maybe you can tell me a solution to a problem that Im having. I have a AMD 6850 overclocked 870/1150 stock voltage (I know its old dont kill me yet) while I was playing a game screen froze in a very different way, like colors were mixed together, so I reboot the pc. But now, after windows logo, black screen appears and doesnt go away so I can not reach to my desktop screen. Just constant black screen everytime after windows logo. I can open windows in safe mode, no problem. And when I delete drivers I can boot the pc without a problem. But you know I cant use my gpu this way. So something wrong with GPU itself as hardware ? or is it because of drivers, software ? and what do I do in this case other than buying a new card. But I must tell I was using the same driver just fine until this problem has occured. Thanks.
PS4 and xbox one exactly same graphics. The extra 50% GPU speed of PS4 is clearly not used
Also, PS4 pro does not have enough power to run games with 4 times as much pixel as PS4 even you if drop anti-aliasing. The game is clearly not using the full power of PS4. Other 1080p games on PS4 usually runs only 1440p or checkerboard 1800p/2160p on PS4 pro. So, it very clear that base PS4 version is not using it full power in this game.
What did I ignore ?! What is the difference between xbox one and base PS4 version ? The video clearly mention that it is identical between the two
PS4 pro can't runs 4 times pixel as PS4 unless the game is not using base PS4 full power like fifa 17 (the fact that PS4 and Xbox one are identical is proof that PS4 GPU extra power is not being used)
maroom1 Yeah, because the PS4 can only go up to 1080p60, it doesnt support 1440p so it cant go higher
Does fifa 18 support HDR on PC?
Why can't I watch netflix on my sony z5?
PS4 Pro players been playing in Native 4k 60fps for about a year now. And they have true exclusives like Horizon Zero Dawn & God of War.
4k 60fps *snort* on ps4 pro.
blunt 420 Yeah, 4k is old news. Let's get to the new IPs now.
Beats, Games, Life -ZimM804 ps4 pro can only run games at 4k that iphones can play Fifa madden and 2k lmao
Beats, Games, Life -ZimM804 Ps4 pro is weak it can't do 4k only Checkboard rending or Super sampling lol 😂😂😂 Xbox one X can do some games in native 4k 60 fps other's use Checkboard rending but it's just coming out
John Smith What's funny is that Xbox has more enhanced games at launch than the Pro has in a year. Also consider how 9/10 of them are native 4K.
The old music 😀
What about the Xbox One X?
Whats the purpose of this video comparison without Switch?
DigitalNow hence the idea of a comparison making sense - to show the difference.
Fifa 17 looks better
17 looks good!
No Switch???
We want pro vs one x vs pc everything else is irrelevant
same game every year. people just got Alzheimer's disease
Switch?
Where is NBA 2K18?
Pc is win
hey where is the switch xD?
The EA sports games are such a rip-off. They charge the price of a new game for what is merely of a patch of the previous years game.
Why are the shadows X's???? WTF LOL
The Legend34 stadiums have lights on all 4 sides. 4 sources of light = 4 shadows.
Native 4k for the pro and the best EXSCLUSIVES why would I build a pc??
To play early access indies?
To play the rest of the games with acceptable frame rates.
Well, not sure why YOU would build a PC, but the rest of the population? Options. They exist. Not everyone is a die hard Sony fan, nor a die hard MS fan. Some just want to play a game on their preferred hardware.
HD emulation itself should sell me a PC.
I use PC because of it's flexibility in allowing me to play games the way I want too and not be forced to play them how the developers tell us to play them like on consoles.
Just to let you guys know fifa 18 is also available for x360 and ps3 XD XD
looks the same to me.
PS4 Pro was a mistake . VR is dead 💀
gorgonitesX Mike NX Yawn 😵 Let me see if another unimaginative idiot put “PS4pro was a mistake” in the comments... Yup - Check ✅
Why did they give this EMO a job?
Fifa 17 is better , i have ps4 pro, Fifa 17 in pro is amazing. Fifa 18 not realist like fifa 17 , i think i save my money and wait for next year.
Fifa 17 is better in all areas than fifa 21. I uninstalled my fifa 21 next level (my ass) and installed fifa 17 on my ps5. Fantastic game.