I have been following stories of people who have left this organisation and have been struggling to understand how anyone can get caught up in something so shady,downright confusing and borderline illegal.Thank you for this great video because you have answered most of my questions.I wish more people saw this video.
Chris! You are a dream come true, a long term Sea Org member, veteran, who took the system seriously, who had/has the skills to communicate and put into a video, an excellent (best I've ever seen) explanation of the Sea Org Scientology management problems and history these last 40 years. It's way deep into the weeds, but the best video/power point explanation ever, to date! Chuck Beatty ex Sea Org 1975-2003
So interesting to get such a detailed rundown of the Scientology bureaucracy and an explanation of how Miscavige seized and maintains power. Great video.
Wow! Chris, you have a truly astonishing ability. To put together this much complex information, and then to explain it so clearly! You have an amazing mind! Thank you so much for your hard work and integrity!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOW........excellent presentation Chris! I haven't heard anyone explain Scientology this well as you did! I'm saving this to share with people who need to watch it. This was awesome! Thank you!
Chris, that was a fine exposition that made sense of Miscavige's power grab. I thought he was quite insightful about himself when he said in his interview with Ted Koppel that power is assumed and is based on the fact that people listen to you. The corollary being that those who listen or follow have knowingly or unknowingly handed over their power to him or Hubbard or the ideals of the movement. The sense of return of your own power... and love... is shown in your "I am an Ex-Scientologist" video. Similar wake up for me when I left. For a time I almost had to pinch myself to know I wasn't dreaming, so long I'd been asleep.
Great job in providing not only a significant historical account of Scientology, but also a detailed overview of the upper management structure. This may be your best work. A great reference for anyone interested in this subject.
Wake up anyone still in. People like Chris are trying to educate and help you. He KNOWS what he is talking about. Please please look for yourselves. Just watching this or reading information not provided by and censored by Scientology is NOT A CRIME. Great job Chris- I know how hard you are working to try to educate and help people when you have already sacrificed so much of your life to scientology. You are a true humanist.
Chris Shelton - Thank you for teaching those of us who were sane enough to not get roped into Scientology all the in & outs of this so called religion. I appreciate how you teach w/o all the screaming & shouting. Have you ever thought of branching out & covering over sects & cults? I know Scientology gives you enough hilarity that you could stay busy forever but your style is so perfect I could listen endlessly!
I learned more from watching this Chris than I did as a teen in the Sea Org in the 80s and 90s. Thank for your doing this so that hopefully more will get out and fewer will go in!
How important is the UK headquarters in East Grinstead in the scheme of things? It all seems to be focused on the US. I know someone who was in it and moved to East Grinstead.
A great summary. I didn't know that so much was known about Scientology outside of the church today. This Miscavige fellow makes one formidable villain.
The whole Miscavige coup strongly reminds me of what is going on in the White House and Federal Government right now. Utter chaos. I left CoS in 1977 before most of this happened. There was plenty of corruption and power struggle going on then. Can't imagine how bad it has gotten with the Narcissist CEO. Great video, Chris, thank you.
Chris, your videos are just excellent. I took a Scientology "personality test" in the late 1970s as a teenager. I'm so glad I didn't get sucked into the cult, and I'm glad you got out and are on a skeptical path to a rational life.
Fantastic, Chris! Thank you so much for explaining and demonstrating the insanities of $cientology. As many videos as I've heard, from many different people, this IS THE best in describing HOW they (the organization known as the "church of Scientology") are supposed to function. As we know, they fail, over and over, as "They can't do their jobs because of all the by-passes"...as well as the hidden management system. Great job! :) Tory/Magoo
Thank you for the outstanding video. I was the Director of Communications of the Founding Church in Washington DC. I realized exactly what was going on when I was sent to NY to join the Sea Org.
+SurvivingScientology Karon, listen to the part at 32:47 and tell me what he said. not what he ment but what he said. try and spell it??? just a bit of FUN!!! Same goes for anyone else..... expec you Chris.... lol
Best video on Scientology I have seen. Most documentaries play up the sensational side of the organization, rather than actually explain the inner workings.
Thank you, Chris. I have great respect for your dedication to truth advocacy. You back up everything you say with evidence, and still the few who flock to your page, strictly for the purpose of bashing you, or detracting others from listening to you, make themselves look foolish. They demonstrate this time and again, when they resort to bull-baiting any and all critics who disagree with them.
Of all the people speak against this cult, Chris is the easiest and best speaker I gave come across. Maybe the others just got to ducked up in the cult. Keep making videos Chris and thank you.
That was freaking brilliant. I am only an observer and I've heard stories including some of these details, but your explanation put a great deal of that in context. I really hope they introduce this video in to evidence in the Monique Rathbun trial as it completely blows the idea that DM is not the leader out of the water. Boy! It proves once again, I'd rather have people like you and Tory on my side. Amazing! Thank you!
I am hoping that this video will be of help to lawyers and anyone else who wants to understand and take on this corrupt organization. I wanted to help unravel the purposefully confusing labyrinth.
I'm glad your channel is doing so well, Chris. You put a ton of work into it and it shows. And you *never* half-ass anything. I wish everyone on RUclips were as diligent as you. I want to suggest a topic to you, one coincidentally well-suited to Halloween. (Though it's actually quite serious.) Recently on some ex-Scientologist/ex-Sea Org message boards I've been reading about a fascinating, tragic phenomenon that I'd never encountered before. (Isn't "fascinating and tragic" the official Scientology motto?) It might be termed "Widespread Psychosis in the Sea Org." We all know about Lisa McPherson's Scientology-flavored break with reality. (She babbled to the police about how she was an OT but no one knew it, stripped off her clothes, etc--just like Hubbard did every afternoon.) And there are the many suicides, even several murder-suicides. (Including the guy from Sons of Anarchy.) Plus Jon Atack's speech for psychiatric workers in the UK (at the big hospital they used to call Bedlam), where he was told "we get about three OTIIIs a year as patients." But weirdest, and most fascinating, is the psychosis which is apparently well established among active Sea Org workers. According to what I read, "magical thinking" is common, and in particular there's a belief in telepathic contact with gods (some), the devil and demons (more), and even with other Sea Org workers who are considered frightening and vaguely evil (even more). This actually amounts to a belief that certain people in your life are *fucking demons in human disguise*! I would have written this claim off as one person's mentally-unwell experience, but many other alumni of the SO (and especially Big Blue) knew much about this. Something about the style and astonishing level of mind control people are subjected to seems to put them at increased risk of things like this. As a reader and avowed critical thinker, I'm sure you're aware of the dangers of magical thinking. And when Satan himself is acting as your life coach, shit can get dark real fast. (Hubbard's numerous claims to be Satan incarnate, not to mention his attempts to create a "Moonchild," aka the Antichrist, to do his bidding, and his "very good friend" Aleistar Crowley, were Very Good Indicators of where he stood on the God-Satan meter. Rock slam!) It's not the Sea Org member's fault in the slightest, but many of them are apparently quite affected mentally and emotionally, by they do seem to distribute this folié a deux to the Sea Org. Anyway, I wanted to make that suggestion, and express my admiration. Best of luck to you. Andy
finally a intelligent explanation of the goings on in this cultish org, My heart goes out to all those people who have lost there lives savings and its my wish that some day these crooks will be forced to pay some of the people back? good day and great job. Tim
Could Scientology simply be a secret experiment evaluating human gullibility, tolerance to lies and the need to belong... to anything???? Stunning presentation, thank you. “It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” - Mark Twain
Excellent presentation Chris! You've de-mystified and laid out the organization very well. The only suggestion I would make would be regarding the title. The "madness" term in title won't throw off everyday people but is likely to deter most scientologists "in good standing" from watching. Unfortunately, those are the people who most need to see it.
+Chris Shelton (Critical Thinker at Large) Yeah, if anything because they can't avoid hearing people talk about it, it's bound to stir their interest and for many they won't be able to help themselves, they'll feel they just have to see what this video is all about. If for some reason this video had one of your lowest views, Tim Lobb might've been right. But at the end of the day people who are Scientologists are still human, and humans are curious, they want to know what's being said about them and about something they care about and/or have a connection to. I guess we can conclude that negatively loaded words in the title - when the video concerns Scientology (because of the stigma it has build over the years) - is a good tactic to draw traffic. And of course it also doesn't hurt when the person who creates, writes, presents and narrates the video is a well known highly talented person like yourself. :) Thank you for doing what you're doing. I have no ties to Scientology (though they know of me because I once paid them a visit and have been on their mailing list ever since), but I have a strong aversion towards abuse, particularly emotional abuse of the kind that we see Scientology is dealing with - and has been dealing with since the start because L. Ron Hubbard designed it that way with the specific intention of profiting off people's insecurities and wish to understand themselves and the world around them better. The reason why I've become so particularly interested in Scientology may be that I live in a country, Denmark - which happens to house the European Headquarter of Scientology - which has perfected the art of pacifying and controlling almost in minute detail how people think and behave. As someone who has never been passively inclined and who has always had a strong ambitious drive towards doing something worthwhile with my life and be the very best I can be (the very epitome of what is NOT welcomed or liked in my country) I have been met with very heavy amounts of obstacles, doors being closed, shunning, and social isolation (as well as having unlawful records made by the police about illegal acts that I never committed, but I'm being denied any opportunity to prove my innocence wherefore the possibility for me to ever have a career in this country is nil). While I've always been passionate about supporting people who put effort into doing something about injustice and malicious control and abuse of other people, I'm now even more than ever decisive about helping out if and where I can, and now I have an advantage I didn't have to begin with: I've got nothing to loose because everything has already been taken away from me. This is why I think I can safely say - on behalf of the many who have been or who still are being abused by Scientology - thank you for being who you are and for doing what you do, Mr. Shelton.
Truth be told; Scientology's *biggest* enemy, is themselves. Their own paranoia and fear mongering, along with avarice, have brought them to this place, and will bring them down.
I've been watching a bunch of your videos for a while. I just simply want to say thank you and keep up the good work. if it helps just one person it worth it.
22:00 -- a problem with this argument is by saying Hubbard was in "a lot of legal trouble" for evading taxes is Shelton condones the act of taxation. Taxation is theft at gun point.
Great videos Mr. Shelton...I am really Glad you are getting countless people at least to think this is a scam which it is...The planting of seeds to think are vital...And You are doing a supper job doing It....Chris Shelton....I solute you....)
Chris Shelton Very welcome .......It's great to see people being informed of this insidious cult And many should thank you for your effort to stop it.......I salute you Sr. ... Keep up the great work...)
Hi Chris I was wondering whether I could use some of your videos for a school assignment about cults. I think your videos are very interesting and informative, and I would like to show some of them during our presentation.
Thanks, Chris. I had been wanting to ask what the organizational structure is. BTW, it's funny that at 4:30 Ken's name is off in "Earned Rank" and throws off that line. Needs more proof reading.
By 17:00 in, it's clear to this outsider not only THAT this setup is systematically abusive (which is apparent from sworn testimony from former members), but also HOW. The requirement of power differential (for "abuse," vs. simply "bad behavior") is clearly met, with an orchestrated chaos built in to undermine the predictability necessary for strong, healthy attachments. No wonder Scientology is imploding -- and with significant pain and vitriol from many victims.... 😔
Very thorough. Thank you! One question -- As litigious as Scientology obviously is, aren't you concerned that they will turn their overwhelming attention toward you and drag you into court in an attempt to try to shut you up? Just concerned. Take care!!
I've thought about. And they may well try that some time. I have a lot of friends. I don't think they'd succeed. And they will certainly never, ever shut me up. The days of me being quiet because of the Church of Scientology ended last December when they took my fiance from me and declared me a Suppressive Person. If they want to know why I'm doing this, they only need to look in a mirror.
That's how they have operated for years- through fear. They can't do that forever and it takes brave people like Chris to speak out to stop their corruption and censorship. If we all stay silent, then evil wins. When you cease to be afraid, there is very little they can do to silence you and more people need to realise that. Chris has a vast amount of support outside scientology, and a great deal of respect. They cannot crush or silence that.
jupitersdreaming Oh you. Thanks for your show of support. We need to take this corrupt organization down. Every voice that contributes to the fight moves us that much closer to our goal of abolishing Miscavige's corrupt regime and removing this threat to free thought and free speech from society.
Amazingly informative video! I love it! It's wayyy too much information to process all at once if you're new at this like me, but hey, I'll just watch it couple of more times :)
This video is awesome, well explained and makes total sense. the one questions I've always had on my mind was. exactly what is Miscavige's training or case level? Since he has access to everything and can tell how an auditor is faulty etc. one would assume he did it all himself no? Did LRH train him? maybe the base for another great video!
Excellent. I've been following this topic for many years but this video really cleared up some things for me. Do you think you could tackle an explanation of CST (Church of Spiritual Technology) as it relates to RTC etc.?
Yeah, I need to do that. Explain the big corporate scam going on behind the scenes. For now, you can find some good references to this on The Underground Bunker which give clear explanations of CST and what that's all about.
Excellent video, Chris. You are so right that current members need to leave. If they still want to do the Bridge, it is available in the Independent Field.
24:11 David Miscavige used to be the Action Chief CMO Int. That's why he was running those two missions you then lay out. Janis Grady has written, I think on the XSO chat site, that is private only to ex Sea Org members, of David Miscavige's years when he was Action Chief CMO Int. Paul Grady, Janis' husband today, both are out, Paul will hopefully go public to smart researchers and explain also that period. Paul later became a long term Action Chief CMO Int. I hope Janis and Paul get interviewed by smart researchers and their history info added. Masterful best ever talk Chris! Janis and Paul ought to be sought out by some ghost writers and do a book of Janis and Paul's and Janis' sister Terri Gamboa's stories. Terri was even higher up the totem pole, Terri was with David Misavige all through these years, and when Miscavige rose up to be Chairman of the Board Author Services Int, that's when Terri Gamboa became the first Executive Director of Author Services Int, and Terri witnessed firsthand ALL of the Hubbard traffic from that whole period to after Hubbard's death. For the serious interested researchers, Paul, Janis, Terri are easily reachable, and will talk with the right questions asked by informed and understanding researchers/writers/journalists.
26:14 very important list of people, who ALL, some of them have, written of their histories. I wish to heck that especially the CMO people and ASI people, and the old Class 12s still alive, DO write their histories. Very important list of persons, hope they all write their biographies and put them on the internet for future serious Scientology history researchers. The great books, like Jon Atack's "Piece of Blue Sky" and Bent Corydon's book and Russell Miller's book, have lots of important history, as does Stuart Lamon'ts "Religion Inc. " book which has some one of a kind history of this same period Chris talks of. The "John Zegal" tapes are illuminating and must listen to for experts of this period of Scientology history. John Zegal being the step father of Marc Yager who was a later long term Commanding Officer CMO Int, and Yager was an infamous punching bad yes-man, dismally and tragically, to David Miscavige's psychopathic behavior as cult boss once Hubbard died. Layers of Hubbard's own pathological bad practices that the heirs of Scientology management were stuck perpetrating on each other. It takes years to unwind from the complexities of Hubbard's idiocies that people were lead to perpetrate on each other vying for Hubbard's praise and acceptance. 37:40 IN fact it is impossible to get out of Scientology what Hubbard promised, since Hubbard promises blue sky.
Ad on this video, plus I had started watching in past and still showed ad. Also, I've see other channels which have ads throughout 1 video. Now, I wonder how that's done??? Beth (also known as dog who won't give up bone! Or however that saying is, dog without a bone I think). I think I'm going to try re watching ur 1st vid
These nutjobs are dangerous and need to be stopped! Talk about crazy. There is way to much money and power in the hands of the lunatics! Anyone who doesn't recognize this as a cult needs their head examined or audited as the crazies would say.
Ironically, the smiling face of Mr M appears in an advert panel right next to your video; in which my attention was absorbed for its duration. Yes, the video section of the David M website (not COS labelled) is populated by members stating how much he’s micromanaged their work. Of course they see it as being helpful to their mission and couldn’t do it without him. Perhaps through many historic examples, other leaders, who thought they were equally indispensable, prove that strategy is bound to fail.
Thanks for the explanation! Question : What actual ''religious'' activity does the organization do aside from create a system of suffering for its members?
Daniel Jørgensen Yep. Has been there since the late 60s or early 70s in Copenhagen. No big surprise - there's money to be made n Denmark just like there is anywhere else regardless of religious recognition.
39:03 They have a prison system? Well.... Isn't that uhhhh illegal? I mean if you are kept prisoner against your will? Has that ever been an issue? Legally I mean?
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Chris Shelton would be a dream professor. I don't know how anyone could put this together so beautifully and so concise. Hats off.
Oh you! :-)
Maybe that’s what he learned in Scientology
He makes things a little easier to understand ☺
Do you ever intend to listen to what he is saying instead of the way he is saying it?
So true!! I’ve learned so much from Chris’ videos.
I have been following stories of people who have left this organisation and have been struggling to understand how anyone can get caught up in something so shady,downright confusing and borderline illegal.Thank you for this great video because you have answered most of my questions.I wish more people saw this video.
If you're following stories, you know they were born into it. What weird ideas were you born into? Christianity can fit all of those criteria.
Chris! You are a dream come true, a long term Sea Org member, veteran, who took the system seriously, who had/has the skills to communicate and put into a video, an excellent (best I've ever seen) explanation of the Sea Org Scientology management problems and history these last 40 years.
It's way deep into the weeds, but the best video/power point explanation ever, to date!
Chuck Beatty
ex Sea Org 1975-2003
You're doing the world a service by exposing this brutal scam. Thank you, Chris.
Dave Miscavidge is clearing the planet of scientologists.
So interesting to get such a detailed rundown of the Scientology bureaucracy and an explanation of how Miscavige seized and maintains power. Great video.
Wow! Chris, you have a truly astonishing ability. To put together this much complex information, and then to explain it so clearly! You have an amazing mind! Thank you so much for your hard work and integrity!!!
Well thank you!
I still frequently refer back to this video, and have come to the conclusion that it's one of the best ever made about Scientology.
Thank you!
Hakudohshi yes, I agree completely!! Everything you need to know in a nutshell; nothing else matters regarding Scientology.
Great Stuff Chris....Subbed :-)
Chris is like a forensic investigator, logically breaking down Scientology in a clear and easy to understand manner. Keep up the good work.
WOOOOOOOOOOOW........excellent presentation Chris! I haven't heard anyone explain Scientology this well as you did! I'm saving this to share with people who need to watch it. This was awesome! Thank you!
Chris, that was a fine exposition that made sense of Miscavige's power grab. I thought he was quite insightful about himself when he said in his interview with Ted Koppel that power is assumed and is based on the fact that people listen to you. The corollary being that those who listen or follow have knowingly or unknowingly handed over their power to him or Hubbard or the ideals of the movement.
The sense of return of your own power... and love... is shown in your "I am an Ex-Scientologist" video. Similar wake up for me when I left. For a time I almost had to pinch myself to know I wasn't dreaming, so long I'd been asleep.
Great job in providing not only a significant historical account of Scientology, but also a detailed overview of the upper management structure. This may be your best work. A great reference for anyone interested in this subject.
Wake up anyone still in. People like Chris are trying to educate and help you. He KNOWS what he is talking about. Please please look for yourselves. Just watching this or reading information not provided by and censored by Scientology is NOT A CRIME. Great job Chris- I know how hard you are working to try to educate and help people when you have already sacrificed so much of your life to scientology. You are a true humanist.
Thanks Hayley. :-)
Chris Shelton - Thank you for teaching those of us who were sane enough to not get roped into Scientology all the in & outs of this so called religion. I appreciate how you teach w/o all the screaming & shouting. Have you ever thought of branching out & covering over sects & cults? I know Scientology gives you enough hilarity that you could stay busy forever but your style is so perfect I could listen endlessly!
I have! Check out my channel and you'll find all kinds of other content than just Scientology.
I learned more from watching this Chris than I did as a teen in the Sea Org in the 80s and 90s. Thank for your doing this so that hopefully more will get out and fewer will go in!
How important is the UK headquarters in East Grinstead in the scheme of things? It all seems to be focused on the US. I know someone who was in it and moved to East Grinstead.
A great summary. I didn't know that so much was known about Scientology outside of the church today.
This Miscavige fellow makes one formidable villain.
The whole Miscavige coup strongly reminds me of what is going on in the White House and Federal Government right now. Utter chaos. I left CoS in 1977 before most of this happened. There was plenty of corruption and power struggle going on then. Can't imagine how bad it has gotten with the Narcissist CEO. Great video, Chris, thank you.
Curious what u think of the current clowns in the WhiteHouse
Fantastic job, it is going right into my faves.
The message about Denise was very touching. We owe much to brave souls like her.
Chris, your videos are just excellent. I took a Scientology "personality test" in the late 1970s as a teenager. I'm so glad I didn't get sucked into the cult, and I'm glad you got out and are on a skeptical path to a rational life.
This video is very helpful for me to understand Kafka's stories.
Fantastic, Chris! Thank you so much for explaining and demonstrating
the insanities of $cientology. As many videos as I've heard, from many different
people, this IS THE best in describing HOW they (the organization known as the "church of Scientology") are supposed to function. As we know,
they fail, over and over, as "They can't do their jobs because of all the by-passes"...as well as the hidden management system. Great job! :) Tory/Magoo
You have quite the grasp on it yourself Tory!
I never thought that I would enjoy a video about bureaucracy so much! I thoroughly enjoyed it great job!
Thank you for the outstanding video. I was the Director of Communications of the Founding Church in Washington DC. I realized exactly what was going on when I was sent to NY to join the Sea Org.
An absolute wealth of info, presented wonderfully. Thanks for all you do!
Chris, this is my all-time favorite Scientology video! ❤❤❤
Glad you enjoyed it! It's still one of my favs too.
Excellent information I haven't seen anywhere else. Thanks Chris!
Thanks Chris. Well done.
That was the fastest 39 minutes I've spent in quite some time.
You have done a masterful job.
May I express the wish that this becomes the " Debbie Cook letter" of whistleblower videos.
***** So True!
+SurvivingScientology
Karon, listen to the part at 32:47 and tell me what he said. not what he ment but what he said. try and spell it??? just a bit of FUN!!!
Same goes for anyone else..... expec you Chris.... lol
+alan hall
NNYAH.... that's my best shot
Was he saying it in roman numerals??? just made up ones!!!~??? :~)
Best video on Scientology I have seen. Most documentaries play up the sensational side of the organization, rather than actually explain the inner workings.
Thank you, Chris. I have great respect for your dedication to truth advocacy. You back up everything you say with evidence, and still the few who flock to your page, strictly for the purpose of bashing you, or detracting others from listening to you, make themselves look foolish. They demonstrate this time and again, when they resort to bull-baiting any and all critics who disagree with them.
Bravo! A exact understanding of the management of this organization. Madness to be sure! This is vital, concise information for attorneys.
This is one of the best explanatory videos you will ever watch about the inner workings of scientology.
Wow Chris, great video... gosh I'm sharing everywhere I can.
Thanks again, Chris! Excellent as always.
Of all the people speak against this cult, Chris is the easiest and best speaker I gave come across. Maybe the others just got to ducked up in the cult. Keep making videos Chris and thank you.
This is an excellent production. Very balanced and sticks to the organizational design (and failings). Very well done. Thank you.
You're very welcome. :-)
This is very interesting and well organized, laid-out, and presented.
That was freaking brilliant. I am only an observer and I've heard stories including some of these details, but your explanation put a great deal of that in context.
I really hope they introduce this video in to evidence in the Monique Rathbun trial as it completely blows the idea that DM is not the leader out of the water.
Boy! It proves once again, I'd rather have people like you and Tory on my side.
Amazing! Thank you!
I am hoping that this video will be of help to lawyers and anyone else who wants to understand and take on this corrupt organization. I wanted to help unravel the purposefully confusing labyrinth.
Great detailed video. Learned a lot. Thanks for taking the time to make this for thousands that have watched this
This was one of the best Scientology vids I've seen so far. Very well done.
I'm glad your channel is doing so well, Chris. You put a ton of work into it and it shows. And you *never* half-ass anything. I wish everyone on RUclips were as diligent as you.
I want to suggest a topic to you, one coincidentally well-suited to Halloween. (Though it's actually quite serious.) Recently on some ex-Scientologist/ex-Sea Org message boards I've been reading about a fascinating, tragic phenomenon that I'd never encountered before. (Isn't "fascinating and tragic" the official Scientology motto?) It might be termed "Widespread Psychosis in the Sea Org."
We all know about Lisa McPherson's Scientology-flavored break with reality. (She babbled to the police about how she was an OT but no one knew it, stripped off her clothes, etc--just like Hubbard did every afternoon.) And there are the many suicides, even several murder-suicides. (Including the guy from Sons of Anarchy.) Plus Jon Atack's speech for psychiatric workers in the UK (at the big hospital they used to call Bedlam), where he was told "we get about three OTIIIs a year as patients."
But weirdest, and most fascinating, is the psychosis which is apparently well established among active Sea Org workers. According to what I read, "magical thinking" is common, and in particular there's a belief in telepathic contact with gods (some), the devil and demons (more), and even with other Sea Org workers who are considered frightening and vaguely evil (even more). This actually amounts to a belief that certain people in your life are *fucking demons in human disguise*! I would have written this claim off as one person's mentally-unwell experience, but many other alumni of the SO (and especially Big Blue) knew much about this. Something about the style and astonishing level of mind control people are subjected to seems to put them at increased risk of things like this. As a reader and avowed critical thinker, I'm sure you're aware of the dangers of magical thinking. And when Satan himself is acting as your life coach, shit can get dark real fast. (Hubbard's numerous claims to be Satan incarnate, not to mention his attempts to create a "Moonchild," aka the Antichrist, to do his bidding, and his "very good friend" Aleistar Crowley, were Very Good Indicators of where he stood on the God-Satan meter. Rock slam!)
It's not the Sea Org member's fault in the slightest, but many of them are apparently quite affected mentally and emotionally, by they do seem to distribute this folié a deux to the Sea Org.
Anyway, I wanted to make that suggestion, and express my admiration. Best of luck to you.
Andy
This talk is so well done in addition to being informative
I have been fascinated by how the church of Scientology works. Thanks for posting.
finally a intelligent explanation of the goings on in this cultish org, My heart goes out to all those people who have lost there lives savings and its my wish that some day these crooks will be forced to pay some of the people back? good day and great job. Tim
Thank you. I worked very hard to make it as easy to understand as possible.
Best one yet Chris!
Well done Chris. Very informative,clear and concise. Kudos!!
Could Scientology simply be a secret experiment evaluating human gullibility, tolerance to lies and the need to belong... to anything???? Stunning presentation, thank you.
“It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
- Mark Twain
Very informative and a fantastic background, a must watch for anyone interested in the topic
I love listening to your videos! Good work!
To draw comparisons; Ron L Hubbard is'Lenin' and David Miscavige is 'Stalin'.
I would draw another. Ron L Hubbard is Trump and David Miscavage is Matt Gates
Excellent presentation Chris! You've de-mystified and laid out the organization very well. The only suggestion I would make would be regarding the title. The "madness" term in title won't throw off everyday people but is likely to deter most scientologists "in good standing" from watching. Unfortunately, those are the people who most need to see it.
+Tim Lobb Maybe. It's my most watched video ever, so I think if anything has the best chance of being seen by existing Scientologists, it's this one.
+Chris Shelton (Critical Thinker at Large)
Yeah, if anything because they can't avoid hearing people talk about it, it's bound to stir their interest and for many they won't be able to help themselves, they'll feel they just have to see what this video is all about.
If for some reason this video had one of your lowest views, Tim Lobb might've been right. But at the end of the day people who are Scientologists are still human, and humans are curious, they want to know what's being said about them and about something they care about and/or have a connection to.
I guess we can conclude that negatively loaded words in the title - when the video concerns Scientology (because of the stigma it has build over the years) - is a good tactic to draw traffic. And of course it also doesn't hurt when the person who creates, writes, presents and narrates the video is a well known highly talented person like yourself. :)
Thank you for doing what you're doing. I have no ties to Scientology (though they know of me because I once paid them a visit and have been on their mailing list ever since), but I have a strong aversion towards abuse, particularly emotional abuse of the kind that we see Scientology is dealing with - and has been dealing with since the start because L. Ron Hubbard designed it that way with the specific intention of profiting off people's insecurities and wish to understand themselves and the world around them better.
The reason why I've become so particularly interested in Scientology may be that I live in a country, Denmark - which happens to house the European Headquarter of Scientology - which has perfected the art of pacifying and controlling almost in minute detail how people think and behave. As someone who has never been passively inclined and who has always had a strong ambitious drive towards doing something worthwhile with my life and be the very best I can be (the very epitome of what is NOT welcomed or liked in my country) I have been met with very heavy amounts of obstacles, doors being closed, shunning, and social isolation (as well as having unlawful records made by the police about illegal acts that I never committed, but I'm being denied any opportunity to prove my innocence wherefore the possibility for me to ever have a career in this country is nil).
While I've always been passionate about supporting people who put effort into doing something about injustice and malicious control and abuse of other people, I'm now even more than ever decisive about helping out if and where I can, and now I have an advantage I didn't have to begin with: I've got nothing to loose because everything has already been taken away from me.
This is why I think I can safely say - on behalf of the many who have been or who still are being abused by Scientology - thank you for being who you are and for doing what you do, Mr. Shelton.
Outstanding video! The true enemy of scientology is the one who uses logic and critical thinking.
Truth be told; Scientology's *biggest* enemy, is themselves. Their own paranoia and fear mongering, along with avarice, have brought them to this place, and will bring them down.
Wow, very powerful and enjoyable! Thank you for all the hard work you put into this and your other videos.
Wow, thank you Chris!
My world is bigger.
Absolutely Superb! Thanx, Chris!
I've been watching a bunch of your videos for a while. I just simply want to say thank you and keep up the good work. if it helps just one person it worth it.
You're very welcome. Appreciated.
22:00 -- a problem with this argument is by saying Hubbard was in "a lot of legal trouble" for evading taxes is Shelton condones the act of taxation. Taxation is theft at gun point.
as an outsider this video explains so much of the nature of many stories that are out there. Thanks Chris!
This is your best video yet.
Great videos Mr. Shelton...I am really Glad you are getting countless people at least to think this is a scam which it is...The planting of seeds to think are vital...And You are doing a supper job doing It....Chris Shelton....I solute you....)
Maximum Soler Thank you so much :)
Chris Shelton Very welcome .......It's great to see people being informed of this insidious cult And many should thank you for your effort to stop it.......I salute you Sr. ... Keep up the great work...)
Hi Chris
I was wondering whether I could use some of your videos for a school assignment about cults. I think your videos are very interesting and informative, and I would like to show some of them during our presentation.
You may absolutely use them for your school assignment. That's the kind of thing I wanted done with these. Enjoy and good luck on your assignment.
How is this only getting 25 thousand plus views? This should be getting over one million.
Thanks, Chris. I had been wanting to ask what the organizational structure is. BTW, it's funny that at 4:30 Ken's name is off in "Earned Rank" and throws off that line. Needs more proof reading.
Great video, Chris! Thanks for posting it.
This was really good. Learned much from this! Thank you Chris.
that just summed up everything I needed to know. thanks so much!
John Wyndham did an interview on 📺 television as well approximately 60 year ago
Fascinating and insightful. Thanks for exposing in detail how the Scientology corporation is run.
Thank you Chris Shelton!
3:00 Looks like that poster was a bit influenced by A Few Good Men lol
By 17:00 in, it's clear to this outsider not only THAT this setup is systematically abusive (which is apparent from sworn testimony from former members), but also HOW. The requirement of power differential (for "abuse," vs. simply "bad behavior") is clearly met, with an orchestrated chaos built in to undermine the predictability necessary for strong, healthy attachments. No wonder Scientology is imploding -- and with significant pain and vitriol from many victims.... 😔
Very thorough. Thank you!
One question -- As litigious as Scientology obviously is, aren't you concerned that they will turn their overwhelming attention toward you and drag you into court in an attempt to try to shut you up? Just concerned. Take care!!
I've thought about. And they may well try that some time. I have a lot of friends. I don't think they'd succeed. And they will certainly never, ever shut me up. The days of me being quiet because of the Church of Scientology ended last December when they took my fiance from me and declared me a Suppressive Person. If they want to know why I'm doing this, they only need to look in a mirror.
Lee Jackson Thank you so much. :-)
That's how they have operated for years- through fear. They can't do that forever and it takes brave people like Chris to speak out to stop their corruption and censorship. If we all stay silent, then evil wins. When you cease to be afraid, there is very little they can do to silence you and more people need to realise that. Chris has a vast amount of support outside scientology, and a great deal of respect. They cannot crush or silence that.
jupitersdreaming - agreed
jupitersdreaming Oh you. Thanks for your show of support. We need to take this corrupt organization down. Every voice that contributes to the fight moves us that much closer to our goal of abolishing Miscavige's corrupt regime and removing this threat to free thought and free speech from society.
Hubbard reminds me of Hugo Drax.
Awesome exposé!
Good Job - Clear, Precise and straight to the point with no Bullshit.
Write a book. I will by a copy.
Chris starting on the bottom now he is here lol. I really love your videos they are very informative. Knowledge is really power!
Helps to know
Amazingly informative video! I love it! It's wayyy too much information to process all at once if you're new at this like me, but hey, I'll just watch it couple of more times :)
Thank you Chris, very informative.
So clarifying. So concise. Thank you so much.
This video proves Scientology works ! This guy is at lest OT X, impressive level of clarity, perfect intention, total emotional control...magic !
Great teacher!!! Very good explanation!!!!
This video is awesome, well explained and makes total sense. the one questions I've always had on my mind was. exactly what is Miscavige's training or case level? Since he has access to everything and can tell how an auditor is faulty etc. one would assume he did it all himself no? Did LRH train him? maybe the base for another great video!
I really enjoy your videos. They are all very well done. Thank you
outstanding factual based explanation.
thank you.
Excellent. I've been following this topic for many years but this video really cleared up some things for me. Do you think you could tackle an explanation of CST (Church of Spiritual Technology) as it relates to RTC etc.?
Yeah, I need to do that. Explain the big corporate scam going on behind the scenes. For now, you can find some good references to this on The Underground Bunker which give clear explanations of CST and what that's all about.
Really incredible work. Thank you so much for this.
Excellent video, Chris. You are so right that current members need to leave. If they still want to do the Bridge, it is available in the Independent Field.
Very well done video Chris! It sounds as if CMO was one of the, dare I say, "safer" places to be. At least, pre-Miscavige.
24:11 David Miscavige used to be the Action Chief CMO Int. That's why he was running those two missions you then lay out. Janis Grady has written, I think on the XSO chat site, that is private only to ex Sea Org members, of David Miscavige's years when he was Action Chief CMO Int. Paul Grady, Janis' husband today, both are out, Paul will hopefully go public to smart researchers and explain also that period. Paul later became a long term Action Chief CMO Int. I hope Janis and Paul get interviewed by smart researchers and their history info added.
Masterful best ever talk Chris!
Janis and Paul ought to be sought out by some ghost writers and do a book of Janis and Paul's and Janis' sister Terri Gamboa's stories. Terri was even higher up the totem pole, Terri was with David Misavige all through these years, and when Miscavige rose up to be Chairman of the Board Author Services Int, that's when Terri Gamboa became the first Executive Director of Author Services Int, and Terri witnessed firsthand ALL of the Hubbard traffic from that whole period to after Hubbard's death.
For the serious interested researchers, Paul, Janis, Terri are easily reachable, and will talk with the right questions asked by informed and understanding researchers/writers/journalists.
26:14 very important list of people, who ALL, some of them have, written of their histories.
I wish to heck that especially the CMO people and ASI people, and the old Class 12s still alive, DO write their histories.
Very important list of persons, hope they all write their biographies and put them on the internet for future serious Scientology history researchers.
The great books, like Jon Atack's "Piece of Blue Sky" and Bent Corydon's book and Russell Miller's book, have lots of important history, as does Stuart Lamon'ts "Religion Inc. " book which has some one of a kind history of this same period Chris talks of.
The "John Zegal" tapes are illuminating and must listen to for experts of this period of Scientology history. John Zegal being the step father of Marc Yager who was a later long term Commanding Officer CMO Int, and Yager was an infamous punching bad yes-man, dismally and tragically, to David Miscavige's psychopathic behavior as cult boss once Hubbard died.
Layers of Hubbard's own pathological bad practices that the heirs of Scientology management were stuck perpetrating on each other.
It takes years to unwind from the complexities of Hubbard's idiocies that people were lead to perpetrate on each other vying for Hubbard's praise and acceptance.
37:40 IN fact it is impossible to get out of Scientology what Hubbard promised, since Hubbard promises blue sky.
good vid, dude! since i dont live in US, its hard to notice scientology stuff goin on. pleased when i find sth. to inform myself.
I'm with Chris, I've always called this a money making scam only. This is NOT a religion.
Ad on this video, plus I had started watching in past and still showed ad. Also, I've see other channels which have ads throughout 1 video. Now, I wonder how that's done??? Beth (also known as dog who won't give up bone! Or however that saying is, dog without a bone I think). I think I'm going to try re watching ur 1st vid
Great Job Chris, congrats!!!!Keep it up buddy!!!
Very informative for those of us who are against anyone taking over our minds. ^i^
These nutjobs are dangerous and need to be stopped! Talk about crazy. There is way to much money and power in the hands of the lunatics! Anyone who doesn't recognize this as a cult needs their head examined or audited as the crazies would say.
Ironically, the smiling face of Mr M appears in an advert panel right next to your video; in which my attention was absorbed for its duration. Yes, the video section of the David M website (not COS labelled) is populated by members stating how much he’s micromanaged their work. Of course they see it as being helpful to their mission and couldn’t do it without him. Perhaps through many historic examples, other leaders, who thought they were equally indispensable, prove that strategy is bound to fail.
Thanks for the explanation! Question : What actual ''religious'' activity does the organization do aside from create a system of suffering for its members?
And, I am glad I checked to see if I was still subscribed....I just had to subscribe again. ARGH!!!
wait, There is a sea org base here in denmark?
that's a weird place to put one, seeing how it's not a recognized religion here
Daniel Jørgensen Yep. Has been there since the late 60s or early 70s in Copenhagen. No big surprise - there's money to be made n Denmark just like there is anywhere else regardless of religious recognition.
39:03 They have a prison system? Well.... Isn't that uhhhh illegal? I mean if you are kept prisoner against your will? Has that ever been an issue? Legally I mean?
'prison system' was a loose comparison. it's more like a labor camp.