Why didn’t they just give Taiki’s two friends Xros Loaders at the beginning? They get them at the end and get partner digimon too, so why didn’t they just do it in the beginning to make them actually useful, non-deadweight characters?
Well actually Jeremy(The boy with the green shirt) was useful because he actually had a sword made of pickmon that he would use to fight other digimon and he even took up the role of the leader one episode so he was a bit more useful but the girl was useless(I think)
Aiman Imran digimon hunter was trash they should have kept it with the first two season. Taigeru was worst than Davis no character development whatsoever
To be perfectly honest I loved this series despite it’s flaws, though I perfectly understand why it’s not well liked by the community. A lot of people can agree with me here but to watch and enjoy to the fullest would be to see the subbed versions. Especially for the soundtrack, that was replaced in the English version, We are Xros Heart, The Guardian, X5’s themes were a few examples of really good music for the franchise.
Weirdly enough I enjoy this series more than I thought I would. Tamers was my most favorite of the series. As a kid never really got into the series but tamers grabbed my attention cause guilmon was freaking epic. After that lost interest again. Kinda got curious with frontier and enjoyed a bit of it. I enjoyed the beginning of data squad/savers at the beginning (English dub) but it got boring fast for me. Xwars was actually enjoy that I stuck with watching it every week when it released.
I'll admit this show has its flaws but I still enjoyed it. Unlike most people I'm willing to overlook most flaws so I can actually enjoy what I'm watching. Or I use said flaws to make jokes instead of complain.
I personally really loved Xros Wars. It is one of my favourite seasons for a few reasons, one being the music in the original for example, but I also really loved Taiki/Mikey's character. Others may hate him or find him boring, but he reminded me of Hikari/Kari who I looked up to as a kid. The previous leaders were blockheads, stubborn, lacked leadership skills, etc, but now we had a true leader who was not only brave and intelligent, but also really caring and selfless. He was willing to sacrifice himself for others without hesitation, he believed in others when no one else did, and he always tried to stay positive despite everyone's negative spirits. Of course his character is unrealistic in a sense, but it is a TV show after all, though, I am sure there are people like him. People who are so giving, people who can't say no when others ask, and it can be draining, but I love his outlook and reasoning on it. It would suck to turn away someone who asked you for help, just for something to later happen to them. He doesn't want to feel that guilt knowing he could have done something when he had the chance. Because of his personality, his team grew, and he was able to unite the other kids and defeat the enemy, so I think it's really sweet. ^_^
@@shoutmondx8740 Maybe not a god, but it's my favourite season besides Frontier. Of course Adventure is amazing and nostalgic, but there's so much charm in those two. What did you like about the season? 😄
I enjoyed Xros Wars. For me the second...series? It was kinda broken up into 3 for some reason. But the 2nd one about the Death Generals was really great. The pacing was nearly perfect. By far the best part of it.
What I hated about it was how LAZY the fusions were. The whole point of fusion was to become stronger, and form something new and or like they are something combined. They are literally all just Shoutmon but bigger with more leg or more armor and a few little details added on. He doesnt have anything special about unlike Omnimon or Imperialdramon
That’s the dub’s fault, in the original the “fusing” part is called “digi xross” it’s a different kind of fusion where the digimon doesn’t digivolve when fusing, it’s like they just combine powers, where in the other series digimon fusing would allow them to unlock a new level of power digivolving into a higher level digimon like above mega level like omnimon. That’s why the “digixross” digimon doesn’t have ranks like ultimate or mega. It’s weird
Xros vs fusion is meant to be that Xros is basically the other digimon only Armor around the digimon to make itself stronger, its like to give a simple example legos, You have 1 block and all your doing with xros is adding more blocks to that block to make it bigger and more stronger, especially with this you get the previous digimons attacks and features they would have, its not fusion where actually you fuse two or more digimon and get a whole new digimon. all Xros is is not evolving just a increase in strength and giving that digimon features and moves the digimon before had (Example later on Shoutmon meets a Beelzemon and he gets black wings in this Xros) Tbh Xros is how i say a quicker fusion but less powerful as for fusion you need a bond etc vs Xros where you don't really need that you just kinda need them to be your digimon.
Stil bad as it's based too heavily on Shoutmon, not the many other Digimon they partnered with. They added last minute combinations in the final fight for that reason, showcasing how OP Wisemon and Knightmon were
How I feel about fusion evolutions (mostly on Shoutmon's fusions) 7 years ago:- this is the most awesome thing evaaaaaap Nowadays:- this is not a digimon. Its a fcking *MEGAZORD*
Well, Super Sentai and Digimon are two Bandai + Toei franchises whose English localisations were owned by Saban, Disney, and Hasbro at the same times, although I'm not 100% sure if Hasbro really can localise Digimon now.
Appmon basically took the fusion element and fixed it, they actually combine and make actual new monsters based on both monsters instead of uncreatively slapping random parts from other digimon onto shoutmon's body and call it a fusion, appmon is a lot more creative in that regard.
Appmon is a really good spin-off if you ask me, i unironically cried in some scenes, the story is consistent and the appmons had a really cool design, but i still can't figure out if Gatchmon is a mammal or a reptile
They changed Yuu's backstory so his goldfish died instead of his grandma....It's like the people who dubbed Digimon Fusion genuinely hate the franchise and wanted it to die.
Don't forget that Dub Taiki says that dub Akari is useful for making sandwiches as a reason for her to stay rather than supporting the team and the infamous "you don't know Japanese!" moment.
honestly, even though xros wars is a huge hit or miss since it changed soo much stuff about how digimon works, i actually enjoyed it, and the fact that this is the first digimon anime that actually had animation quality that wasnt always flat and boring like it was made with a 2dollar budget like the previous ones, made atleast more fun to look at
i liked xros wars i didn't like boys who jump threw time baalmon was best part for me atleast for good reason ''coughtamersnestolgia'' and i still loved the idea of islands of lands in sky and stuff and the easier travel so much good but like frontier there was good and bad frontier i didn't like last 20-25 eps cause it went from team work to needing only two people to do everything and xross wars shelves some of the more fun characters too fast
The animation was exactly what put me off. All the previous seasons had this beautiful, elegant style that made it look almost like a painting, especially for the world and the backgrounds but also leaking into the character and Digimon designs. It's what set it apart from many other modern ugly shows. But then Xros Wars came around and suddenly that charme was lost and instead Digimon now also looked like someone had a giant pot of butter, a polishing rag and way too much time at their hands to smear said butter on everything. So suddenly, everything looks hyper stylized and shining like a sweaty face in the spotlight who forgot to apply face powder. I could have maybe put up with the bad characters and the new concepts I didn't like story-wise, but ON TOP of that horrible new look? Nope.
I personally enjoyed appli mon. The concept was more about the fact that everything can be done through your phone with an app, and the digimon franchise decided to "digivolve" it's concept to the more modern moment (thus the name). Both theme songs were quite decent, the characters do have a great development throughout the series and the villain actually had a person that is more relatable to our current lifestyle.
Not to mention it utilized the digital / technological aspect the most out of all Digimon anime series. The technology is more involved than just "Here are the world made of data - forest, mountains, seas, etc are made of data even though they look just like normal world's ones. The creatures are also made of data as well." For a series that is based on technology, the tech aspect surprisingly (and ironically) just played minimal role in Digimon anime series until Appmon where it was more involved.
Applimon was actually pretty good and had a unique plot with an ending I did not expect. It seemed quite more popular than Xros Wars I believe. It was also the first time a digimon property aired in TV Tokyo I think, which probably helped since a lot of the bigtime Japanese cartoons aired there
Wait, Applimon did well? Huh. I couldn’t make it through 5 episodes, the Digimon all felt too gimmicky. Like, Digimon have always had overlap in their designs and evolutions, and the evolution methods might have gotten gimmicky, but the Digimon themselves never served one specific purpose the way they seem to in Applimon.
@@AshtonMonitor Yeah, I'm also surprised that Appmon is better liked than Xros Wars. Xros Wars, while not as deep as the older seasons and has the tendency to be 'childish', I was still entertained by it (at least the first 2 arcs, we don't talk about Hunters). Appmon was boring and way too childish. It was the only Digimon season that I was very close to abandoning, which is surprising to me because there are other seasons that I disliked way more than Appmon.
16:18 - "Even though it makes no sense canonically" - Because this was a fanservice season. Waaaay back when Tamers first aired, fans noticed a pattern and came up with a crazy prediction - which as of Digimon Hunters, mostly came true. Ryu in Tamers is actually from the Adventure universe. He was the protagonist of at least one Wonderswan game, and at the end of one of the endings, decided to not go back to his own universe, choosing to go to a different one. He's also shown as one of the kids watching the Diaboromon battle over the internet in the movie. That was the first proof that the universes were connected. Thanks to the card game and other media, we knew how many Royal Knights existed in the Digimon universe, and as of Tamers the attentive fans realized a pattern: Since only a couple new Royal Knights appeared in each series, somewhere around the 6-8th season all 12 (Maybe 13 if the founder counted) would have shown up. This led to the fan theory that upon all of them being revealed in the anime, there would be some big cross-universe event where every storyline got tied into one. It's just unfortunate that Hunters handled it so badly.
I hate to be that guy, but the Japanese Digimon Xros Wars was way better than the American Digimon Fusion. I watched fan subs of Xros Wars each week as a new episode came out and it was amazing. There were flaws but they weren't as blatant as they were in the dub. I watched half of the dub before I gave up, it felt so phoned in and watered down. Even the emotion that was conjured by custom music in the original had been stripped away entirely!
Why you should hate yourself? Fusion is literally the worst dubbed Digimon series, with horrible alteration of story, dialogues and names (also that dumb censorship). I have a headache when someone actually says they like Fusion more than original Xros Wars.
Hunters' flaws were inoffensive? Bro. 23 episodes of waiting for something to progress and then 2 episodes of pants-on-head nonsense to end the series with hype. Hunters made me mad at how badly they wasted the excitement I'd had from the second season of Xros Wars.
You guys can argue about Hunters. All I care about is the dub that might be coming... Oh wait, it's not coming? Okay, time to build pixel art of digimon in minecraft and burn it.
“Digimon fusion is what it’s widely known as” Really? Because I’ve never even heard of “Digimon Fusion” a whole year after this came out. I’ve heard of Xros Wars tho...
Literally everyone I know has called it Xros Wars for years and years now. Billiam is the only person I have ever seen call it Fusion. He's probably just going with the English version because he has an easier time pronoucing English names.
The manga acts as a more complete product, I recommend reading that. All the characters feel more involved and more fun. It also gives the actual backstory for our MC.
Plus it includes lore from other seasons and media as well as give us super evolution for other digimon partners like Dorulumon, Ballistamon, Sparrowmon, and Starmon. Also as a bonus, Digimon gijinkas.
the anime makes ppl hated Bagramon without reasons coz he's pure evil. The manga instead makes people sympathized towards Bagramon coz he had a tragic and understandable background.
ADV: Kids save the world 02: Kids save the world. . . Again Tamers: Kids win against crippling depression, just to suffer by losing their digital friends Frontier: Kids defeat the devil himself Savers: Angst Teen kills GOD Xros wars: Kids play a mega complex chess game against an Edgelord and win with the power of friendship
I enjoyed Xros Wars. It's so simple, doesn't need thinking, plenty of dumb slap-stick comedy (which I love) - I had a good time with it. Also, Apollomon Whispered has Doflamingos voice. That really was a surprising yet positive highlight to me!
13:54 Actually I found out about digimon fusion when looking up weregarurumon and wargreymon just to live in the nostalgia for a bit and continued just typing in random names for digimons like... idk stuff like trashmon, bluemon, and I just so happened to type shoutmon and was amazed that it was an actual digimon and that there was a whole new season I had never heard of
5:38 You should re-watch Frontier, you think he's the "I'm going my own path" kinda dude, but it's actually only for the first few episodes, he becomes a better Matt then Matt, actually caring about the group and willingly sacrificing for Takuya after Takuya's super safe plan to beat Duskmon (Kochi tells him before that it won't work and is way to dangerous for everyone) fails. Takuya literally accepts death and Kochi jumps in without any hesitation
“It’s just clean, light-hearted fun” is the perfect description for Hunters and it’s why I enjoy the season so much. The writing’s not great and there’s very little character development (except for the conclusion to Yuu’s character arc which admittedly did make me pretty emotional) but it was bright and fun and I was perfectly okay with that, especially since it was a short season. As for Xros Wars, I liked it a lot but I have to admit it does have issues and you pretty much nailed them. I was nervous about Appmon but it honestly became my favorite Digimon series, I highly recommend giving it a chance at least! Either way, I’ve really enjoyed these Digimon reviews
Appmon is totally not a spin-off, it literally has Digimon in it, and it hits the Digimon theming perfectly, it also has dark tones that really work and you can tell ghost game definitely took inspection from it
I enjoyed Xros Wars. I didn’t enjoy Fusion. The English adaptation of this show butchered what the Japanese version actually was. They took out well timed jokes in favor for one-liners that were relevant to today’s kids but ultimately not funny (like a line said by Taiki/Mikey’s guy friend who I can’t remember the name of about other kids in the digital world having phones that they could play games on). For the first two seasons of Xros Wars, the show was good. Nowhere near the level that previous seasons of Digimon were, but still enjoyable. Young Hunters, though, was an abomination and we should just forget that exists. Only redeeming factor of that season was the final battle bringing all the Digimon leads from past seasons into one final battle. That was a nice treat for old fans.
Ehh... That "nice treat" was a missed opportunity for dimension-hopping so the new protagonists could get strong enough to win. There was even a perfect "we're pinned down" moment for them to retreat, since the digimon that did the dimension-hopping was with them. Maybe it was good they didn't do it though. They dropped a lot of stuff they could have done better, so who knows how badly the dimension-hopping would have been done. For example the "leapt through time" reference in the title had me for a while convinced that the DigiQuartz was actually the future, where the digital and real worlds had somehow gotten fused.
Hunters only existed because the new saint seiya was delayed and Toei was too stubborn to let go of their TV slot on TV tokyo, so they rushed a new batch of digimon episodes so thy could keep the slot
Applimon is actually really good! I wasn't sure at first since I.... didn't enjoy Xros Wars a lot, but Applimon felt like a different take on Digimon that followed the same spirit. It was original, the main characters were good, and it was very fun. Not every episode was amazing but it had some cool twists and cool moments
Appmon have some of the most beloved characters. They sometimes might like in Eri or Tora/Astra's case, but they make you feel empathy towards them in terms of their character development.
The main characters are Kazuki, Haru, Yujinn, Ai, Torajiro and Kumiko And their partner digimon and appmon are Pheasantmon(a digimon Kazuki drew when he was a kid when his phone turned on by bootmon the drawings and the digimon universe are now turned into an app, and created the digimon world also brought him to life), Gatchmon(who has longer horns on his helmet and a yellow cape), Agumon, Offmon, Gabumon(Yujinn's digimon partner who is gentle for offmon and the others), Musimon, tentomon(Torajiro's partner digimon and also Torajiro's number 1 fan), Wizardmon(he was once a candlemon an appmon who was trained by mirrormon but bullied by other appmon, he later leaves mirrormon's dojo and set off on a lonely journey, when he discovers the digimon world he rested there until he later digivolved into wizardmon, when he was exploring he saw Ai Kashiki who was one of the victims of the human application project, he saw and he thinks she's going to be shredded, so he saved her from becoming an appmon chip, when she's back to the real world she has no memory of him, until now when she sees him again, Wizardmon became her partner), and Bushbabymon(Kumiko's digimon who has a little stink problem)
I remember watching Xros Wars weekly and posting in a forum about it. Wasn't the best, but I still had fun with the series as a whole. Though Xros Hunters, the series that came after, was pretty bad. While Xros Wars was on the verge of being canceled, Xros Hunters just got its time slot immediately taken away, which meant they had to rush the ending. Also, while the collecting aspect seemed cool, there wasn't much done with it, and Tagiru probably only uses three or so of his extramons. The ending even just kind of shoves the main character role to him, when he admits he did nothing to earn it. The fact that it doesn't have its own review and is just taped onto the end of this one shows that it's just "there".
Goose Dawson hunters in my opinion I watch all digimon and the last episode is the best spoilers all digimon season main characters came back in one episode
Xros Wars 1st Arc:Slow & rather boring with a few exceptions (Shoutmon x4 vs Neptunemon for example) until they get to the SandZone. Here we're introduced to Sparrowmon (Shiny Latias) just before Beelzemon joins the Fusion Fighters. Then the 2nd half of the 1st Arc is rather low quality. The 2nd Arc where they fight the 7 Generals though was great & about what you would expect a Digimon series to be like. Young Hunters wasn't dubbed for good reason. Xros Wars/Fusion is clearly the worst Digimon series, although it had some awesome parts here & there. Also I thought Nene was going for Mysterious in 1st Arc, then Beautiful in 2nd Arc, as she isn't mysterious anymore by the point they decided to make her attractive.
Red Alpha Nah. Zexal killed the fan base for a short time, and by short I mean a good ass 3 years ☠️ Vrains is actually really good right now, and might be the best Yugioh Series if it ends strongly and doesn’t pull a Arc-V. ( meaning having amazing high potential and dropping to shit .)
Hey Jaden your right Digimon fusion is the Yugioh zexal Mikey and Shoutmon are Yuma and Astral while Davis is the Jaden to be honest don't hate me Davis kind of grew on me his moment was helping Ken Mikey has none nor Shoutmon I prefer Digimon 02 than Digimon fusion
oh digi-fusion exist. look like ma boy paildramon. silphymon and all of gen-3's mega form. the issue isn't xros war has fusion, its the fact they fucked it up. digimon isn't fucken transformer, if you are going to do fusion. give us actual fucken digifusions. as in give us something new and exciting, and not just, you put shoutmon on top of _____mon, and here you have it, fusion.
People like before xros wars "we want something new" but after xros wars "I hate new things" I mean come on if it looks like transformers than what's wrong, we have all those old concept of digimon evolving into rookie to mega or SU in previous season and xros wars included something new and people hate it because they just wanted to see power levels. I mean digimon is literally a data with life form and data can be mixed with other data so digi xros/fusion is nothing surprising
I love how you did admit that maybe it was nostalgia that made the earlier Digimon series seem less childlike. And to be fair, for a kid, Mikey would look quite cool. And frankly, I think it should be noted that a large part of the reason for WHY lots of Digimon games failed... was because they SUCK AT MARKETING... I mean, seriously, Pokemon, Dragon Ball Super and so many franchises actually make sure people know they are coming out. I do remember that Digimon did announce a game and it got a lot of views... but then MONTHS go by and it just gets forgotten. Hell, even Tri got the same marketing disasters. People can't buy games if you don't tell them about it, and you shouldn't expect a person to remember an announcement from MONTHS ago... That said, my favorite Digimon was actually Digimon Savers (or Data Squad). The characters were awesome and fun, though I do wish they just did more. It was cool, but it was also a HUGE waste of potential.
I was actually relieved that the digimon story series game(like cyber sleuth,re digitized,next order) are doing pretty well,and those game are aimed at adult.
...actually I watched liek 1 clip of Adventure 01 in japanese and was like "wow, I can't handle this. They just all said 'it's shining!' over and over for a whole minute or so..." at least that's what I think I remember I think that watching the dub made it probably very different... I rewatched an ep of Adventure 02 after I had grown up and realized just how rapid fire they talked in it, probably loading up extra dialogue or something. I know that DBZ had a ton of extra dialogue added into it that was not in the original I'm not about to claim one is better than the other, but I think that the time I attempted to watch Xros Wars, it was sub only and I did indeed feel like it was "so childish I could only last 5 minutes" (probably not a fair assessment considering I watched 5 whole minutes) I am watching Ghost Game right now and am almost up to date in japanese, and it also Definitely feels like a childrens show to me, but with added "almost very good horror elements for a few minutes before it goes back to being a kids show" ......the logic in the show is just hella ALL OVER THE PLACE but I still enjoy it. Half the fun comes from lampshading it, and oh my god if I don't want a hug from Angoramon. Best boy. oh my god yeah also I played Digimon Dawn or whatever, and boy was it addicting. Literally only knew Digimon had videogames from... being a digimon fan and being on the internet looking for fan content and on wikis, idk. Why are they so trash at marketing lol. Also I want Digimon Survive already XD ...also man, yeah I need to continue Data Squad, I was pretty into it for a bit but I think what happened was I couldn't find any more episodes online way back years ago.
@@tsunfish9443 Something I had noticed in old dubs (I first took note of it in Yu-Gi-Oh) is that they added in so much extra dialogue in any scene where they could get away with it. I assume they figured kids would get bored with calm moments, or scene establishing shots, so they threw in more people talking to keep attention.
@@WolforNuva wow, even though I also listed DBZ as an example, I didn't realize this was a thing across the board for old dubs... Yeah, adults sure think a lot of things for how to entertain kids, so that sounds really plausible
"Digimon doesn't have to reinvent itself" But Digimon Tamers, the season you and I know to be the best, reinvented not just Digimon, but the whole 'mon genre, brutally deconstructing it even. I'm not the biggest fan of Digimon Savers, but I still appreciate it tried to do something different. The reason I stuck with that season but not Xros Wars was because Xros Wars didn't reinvent itself, period. I hate cliches and repetitive formula, so a rehashed storyline is a big turn-off for me.
Tamers actually was the only of the 2 anime products who get close to the lore and use some of the RL elements from all the products (including V-Pets , cards and even the manga). The other is X Evolution who was the one WHO SAVE the franchise. Also the guy here seems to didn't even look up all the info since Digimon AMOST died way back as a franchise with Frontier instead.
@@Raisen_ch That was actually the planned ending for Digimon until fans pressured them to make a sequel, which was Savers/Data Squad. THAT'S where Digimon nearly died worldwide. Only a few games were released during the gap between Savers and Xros Wars. Nothing else.
@@GaomonAndLucario yeah! i knew that too , amost forgot to mentioned who X Evolution was ment to be that "the ending" of Digimon as a franchise. Yeah! it was considerated a little dead until recently.
@@GaomonAndLucario If it was dead after Savers was released, Xros Wars wouldn't have been made, neither would that MMO based on Savers' characters (can't remember the name). Anyway, why does it even matter? At least Savers tried. There was effort put into shaking things up with a different setting, not cash-in on a decade old franchise with some lazy rehash.
Back when I was a kid it was always fun watching digimon but now that I'm older I realized how good the japanese music was. Like I watched every season up to the end of digimon fusion but all of it was in dub. But once I checked out the subbed versions I realized how freaking good the songs were. While I was listening to one guy say "Digimon digital monsters" for who knows how many episodes the people who watched the subbed version got to listen to butterfly.
Same thing with me. I'm from Brazil and our dub ruined the Digimon Adventure's opening, worse they had the presenter from the "Cartoon Hour" sing it and I always hated when they put a presenter that wasted time where one more cartoon could be aired.
It doesn't help that the franchise has _loads_ of songs to choose from. Season 3 alone has like 50 songs including character songs and op/ed. All of them are good too.
I liked the manga better. It made villains like Lilithmon an actual threat who actually wasnt afraid to get her hands dirty and fight. In the anime she was literally forgettable and all I can remember is how much she reminded me of team rocket but instead of being likable shes just horrible in every sense. It's my least favorite season. But I did enjoy its manga adaptation marginally more then the anime
Plus it gave Lord Bagramon a backstory, which made him very sympathetic than the anime incarnation, in which there was reason for his ambitions over his plan.
The one thing I liked best in the manga is how Mikey/Taiki is given a reason for how he is due to feeling like his actions causing a friend, Tatsuya, to be hurt just because he thinks it's because of one of his dreams and just felt he didn't deserve a dream.
Its really amazing how Pokémon can keep releasing the same game/anime with the first 151 Pokémon and does fine but Digimon tries to do something different and no one cares.
That's becuase Pokemon does little changes in each game/anime while Digimon makes completely different changes. It's a similar situatiion with Mario keep things similar while Sonic struggles despite changing it up in each game.
I actually liked Applimon for what it was It has some familiarity to digimon but uses the apps to try something new. Some characters were a bit annoying at first but i really grew to like them and their quirks (even Cho noneru norenai oddly enough). They manage to put kid moments along with some more serious moments pretty well
I'll be real, I have no issue with kids dubs for younger anime. I loved the original Digimon Xros Wars, it's one of my favorite seasons unironically. I whole heartedly blame the dub for a majority of the hate Xros Wars receives. And it has nothing to do with me being older, as I loved the dub for Yokai Watch which is even newer than Xros Wars. I've found a lot of newer dubs for kids anime have been making them even MORE kiddy than the older kids dubs did. Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-Vs dub does the same thing, even more censorship than in older seasons except in Arc-Vs case even the voice acting was kind of ass. Newer kids dubs seem to be going waaaayyyy down hill for whatever reason.
I wholeheartedly agree that Xros Wars is better than Fusion. I mean there's inconsistent edits, cuts, and weird dub changes that really confused. Some of dub changes I hate are Dub Akari's line of not being Japanese, bad dub names like: Reapmon, Axeknightmon( I know DeadlyAxemon is one of his component Digimon,but Darkknightmon sounds cooler), Laylamon, Marusumon, Arukadhimon, Lord Bagra, Mikey, Omnishoutmon( should be Omegashoutmon because of the Omega symbol), and the digixros name change for digifusion.
It's what got me into the series as a kid, so I have deep nostalgia for it. Though because of the deep decline it had in Europe briefly afterward, it's more memories of a show I'd just stumble across if I was lucky
@@davidwaller3541 realy appmom is good i mean i realy like hacker dude but aside from that att best the other caracthers are passable and the pacing is horrible, not as bad as hunters trough.
Leap Through Time was not Xros Wars. It was a bastardisation of it that didn't even respect it's own characters. [EG: Nene does anything to save Yuu. Now she can't be asked to help Yuu even when he's in depression because **she's a model!**]
It's always so weird to me that Xros Wars was so unpopular. I can understand the dub wasn't great, but I watched only the sub, and it's my favorite Digimon series! The story and characters were great, to me at least, and the music in particular is some of my favorite anime music. Even the background music, not just the songs and stuff, it's just fantastic! I suggest giving it a listen, folks have playlists of the whole soundtrack here on RUclips. The idea of Xros Wars was that Bagramon was bringing child prodigies to the Digital World, trying to get one that would allow him to unlock certain powers, and that was Nene's brother. But that's also why Kiriha and Nene were brought there, though Nene mostly went along with it to rescue her brother. Taiki is also a child prodigy. He's not just really good at sports, he's good at everything, like the others. They show off the sports, but mention other things in passing, and he and the others are meant to be generals of various digimon armies trying to conquer and unite the world. Of course, Taiki does this primarily by making friends with the various digimon and helping them defend themselves against the other armies that are just trying to subjugate them. The rivalry between Taiki and Yuu as two genius tacticians was a pretty central idea, and Kiriha was also meant to be a rival in there. All of them fighting eachother was also meant to hone their skills and power, for Bagramon's plan. With so few human characters, there was also a lot of emphasis put on the digimon and their relationships, so that was pretty interesting. I was surprised you didn't mention Cutemon even once! Pardon the spoiler for anyone reading who hasn't watched it yet, but their big reveal "I'M A BOY!" was really impactful for me. All through the series, folks were treating them like a kid and using either gender-neutral or female descriptors, but it was really impacting their pride. They're also as important as any of the human characters at the very least, since they're outside of the Xrosloader most of the time, hanging out with Dorulumon. I'm really curious why it was so unpopular in Japan. Do you happen to know? I might guess that making all the main characters child prodigies would make them hard to relate to, but I'm not sure if it was that or something else. Like I said, I loved it! It was my favorite by far, even though I was well into adulthood when I watched it. It's hard to see what folks wouldn't like about it, from my perspective, and your coverage mostly seems to show the flaws in the dub, even though you also watched the sub and said they had many of the same flaws. I just don't get it? Anyways thanks for reading my super long RUclips comment. As one final note, you mentioned how 'attractive' many of the female type digimon look. Maybe you're just straight and didn't notice, but the male digimon are also super hot. The main designer for Digimon is Gay with a capital G. It's a big part of their identity and culture, and they like thick muscley guys in dramatic military inspired outfits. Also belts! He really likes belts. I'm actually impressed he's able to make hot lady digimon at the same time. Getting both sides covered is really nice.
What do you think if the writers should have done right in Xros wars for me is to improve the story, character personality, character design, and get rid of dead weight characters that don't do much in the story.
@Jack Bat Season 3's strong point is in its adult characters who actually does _something important_ rather than letting children do the job. Don't know about the pokemon though. Do you even watch pokemon? I mean, the three Tamer kids do fight each other early on but that's it. If there's anything bad about it is the cards that is forgotten halfway through the series... and Ryo. I hate how he appears out of nowhere yet still is on the same level as the three kids with no explanation whatsoever. Just... no.
@@Antyla Jack Bat didn't mean Season 3 to be Tamers. Xros Wars with Taiki/Mikey was split into two seasons, and "Season 3" would be the Young Hunters /Tagiru part.
Subscribed. Also, as someone who watched Appli Monsters on his 20s, I can fully say, that once you’re ready... Don’t sleep on it. It’s got far more value than some think.
I hope we would have Mervamon in the digimon games one day. I know certain group of people don't want her because of her "appeal", but I look past that (Like I wish most people would on most things).
@@wargreysama actually latias was originally the same pokemon as Blaziken, before they got unique designs. Latios was then designed as a doubles counterpart to latias
Funny thing with the finale of Hunters is that it actually does make canonical sense since Digimon is established to exist within an infinite multiverse which means that the past characters who show up can be an infinite number of versions. Also you really should check out Appmon. It’s surprisingly good.
John Balkin Taiki’s been shown to be far more powerful than most other digimon tamers in the multiverse. So the Digimon Kaiser would be no threat to him. Bagramon (Darknessbagramon) is one of the most powerful digimon period. In the Xros Wars anime Bagramon’s goal was to replace the God of the digimon multiverse and it’s implied he could have possibly succeeded if it weren’t for Shoutmon X7 superior mode. The digimon multiverse is in fact well established in the lore. The digimon wonderswan games explore it and ends up crossing over the Adventure and Tamers universes; which the events of the games are referenced in the anime. The Xros Wars manga and Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth both go into great depth about it. Next and V-Tamer also briefly explore it. So yes, the infinite multiverse is canon.
Yes Taiki is powerful, but the Kaiser could definitely help take him down. Also Bagramon could not defeat Quartzmon or Black Knightmon. His goal was not to replace Yggdrasill and later Homeostasis, it was to show how unfair the world is to virus type Digimon. The wonderswan games (Brave Tamer) had ENIAC who exist in both Tamers and Adventure so It can't be a multiverse. The Xros Manga heavily implied it was a sequel to V tamer and Savers and that Zero is a Royal Knight, the same one in Savers if it's a sequel how can it be a multiverse. The V-Tamer manga just had the 02, Frontier and V-Tamer MC come to Taichi and Zero aid. 02 was via Parallelmon who has the ability to travel parallel worlds and parallel worlds are not a multiverse V-Tamer had ENIAC Frontier... was a bit weird has both Zero and Taichi were sent to someplace, they had nothing to do with Frontier or V-Tamer. I am yet to play Cyber Sleuth. Also how does Guilmon and Kimeramon exist in the multiple digimon games and anime if there is a multiverse?
John Balkin Bagramon couldn’t beat Quartzmon due to being severely weakened from his fight with Taiki. When I say he wanted to replace God, I don’t mean Yggdrasil, Homeostasis, or ENIAC. I mean the God that was briefly mentioned in Digimon Next who’s said to be the supreme deity. Cyber Sleuth blatantly states that the multiverse is infinite. Also in the Wonderswan games, it’s established that Zeedmilenniamon had already destroyed hundreds of universes and makes Ryou fight evil versions of Taichi, Daisuke, and Takato all being their EOS versions despite the fact that Brave Tamer is set after Adventure, during 02, and before Tamers. Also parallel worlds are a multiverse. It’s just that in V-Tamer they never establish its size. If you want to know more this is a great article about the cosmology of the digital worlds and real worlds of the Digimon franchise vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Executor_N0/Digimon_Franchise:_Digimon_Cosmology.
@@maxfightmaster4832Bagramon had One Year to recover and he was in the Digital World during that time, I doubt it would take him that long to be back in full strength. We don't know anything about Digimon God, as far as we know Yggdrasil, Homeostasis, or ENIAC are much more powerful. Bagramon was once an Angel now a fallen Angel so he already was a supreme deity. I really need to play Cyber Sleuth and get myself a PS4 or maybe a Vita. I can't comment on that. The Wonderswan games needs a remake, we only ever see Tamer and 02 worlds... nothing from Tri or Frontier or even V-Tamer (I am aware they didn't exist, but V-Tamer did), just different variations of those 2 worlds. The destroyed hundreds of universes, could just be variations of Adventure, 02 and Tamers. The Wonderswan games needs a remake. Parallel Worlds are not a multiverse, if they were then every single story with Time Travel is a multiverse. I'll read the article later, I need to play Cyber Sleuth first, I don't want spoilers.
I will be blunt it was the editing to Laylamon and Mervamon that made me change back to the sub even though I found some of the dubbed voices hilarious, Mostly Ballistamon, Starmon, Cutemon and some of the villain digimon like Tactimon, Neptunemon, IceDevimon and Matadormon
I watched Xros Wars as it was airing and I remember loving the Seven Generals arc the most mainly because Taiki, Kiriha and NeNe were the main characters and the storyline was a lot more consistent. Hunters however I couldn’t get behind, Digimon has always had an overarching story and Hunters just goes NOWHERE until the last 2 episodes because their time slot got pulled and they had to rush to finish it. I also saw concepts for where the series was gonna go if it had continued with one storyline being that Tagiru wasn’t human and he had been created by Quartzmon to understand the relationship between Humans and Digimon for Quartzmon to figure out a way to utilise that power or something, I saw that somewhere right after it ended but haven’t been able to find it since then. If it was honestly where it was going then Hunters could have been saved because the rival hunters and everything were just so pointless. But yeah Xros Wars I liked, Hunters I did not. You should give Applimon a try, I’m watching it just now and I’m really liking it because of how different it is, it feels more original and funnily enough concepts from Hunters are present, a parallel dimension, appmon and captured and then used in later episodes etc.
Fusion will always have a special place in my heart. I remembered watching this show whenever I tuned into Disney XD, and when it left, I anxiously waited for it to come back.
Completely wrong. Digimon Xros Wars's views were really good for it's timeslot with the toy sales being really well. Source: I was on a few Digimon forums back when Xros Wars aired with their own sources on broadcast viewership and toy sales. Hunters mostly sucked, save for the crossover in the last couple of episodes as it being the only good part of that season. Now HUNTERS is the guilty series with lackluster broadcast views and zero toy sales. Hunters only exists because Xros Wars did very well, and because it was around Digimon's 15th anniversary as a celebration. That being said, Hunters should not be part of Xros Wars since it's not even part of the exact same story, it's like Adventure 2 in that sense. Hunters is season 7 and not part of season 6 (and you can't convince me otherwise). Fun fact: Taiki's voice actress is Pit's from Kid Icarus Uprising and Smash Bros.
the thing about dubs vers subs is nowadays subs is an absolute- for fidelity sake. however due to how they changed the product in the 80s and 90s and leading into the 2000s I think you can realistically criticize the products as two completely different entities. Especially 4kids productions. as pokemon was really the only one they didnt heavily change the context for. *also imagine being the company that wasted such success by ruining good dubbing opportunities.*
Yeah, this is the series that killed my joy for Digimon when I was a kid. I dredged through over 80 episodes of this before I stopped. The thing that got me was the complete disregard of the powerlevels that the franchise has used for so long. Seeing Megas getting their butts kicked by champions or rookies beating ultimates was like spitting in the face of the franchise that made up so much of my childhood.
The reason Fusion's Digimon look like they were designed to be toys first has a very simple explanation. They were. It was the first time they really wanted to make it a toyline with supporting fiction first, because the fusion element had to work both in-universe and as a play pattern. The only other time they designed the toys before the animation models was the Warp Digivolving Agumon and Gabumon figures. For exactly the same reason, even - it had to work as a toy first, or the toys would either be too inaccurate or too complex for the price point.
It lacked the substance and depth in characters to really draw you in. Say what you will about Fronteir and Data Squad but within the first few episodes you could see some depth in characters.
kids?? wasnt the original for kids if you actually watch the whole thing in sub and get further in the story it actually gets pretty dark just like the original
This was the first Digimon season I watched, because it was on Netflix and the I went to watch the third part of this on internet. Now six years later I watched the entirety of Digimon Adventure in one month.
Hope y’all enjoy the TYPO in my thumbnail!!!
Gotta love Digmon
What typo? I didn't see a typo?
Was just about to tell you
@@tykamen5588 it says digmon
spider spartian 2006 Productions r/woosh
You snake knew exactly what to do when you said Fuse! That was a very amusing moment.
But then hes like fuck you cuz he just wrapped his arm lol
Why didn’t they just give Taiki’s two friends Xros Loaders at the beginning? They get them at the end and get partner digimon too, so why didn’t they just do it in the beginning to make them actually useful, non-deadweight characters?
@David Silverman how bout ala every other digimon show
Well actually Jeremy(The boy with the green shirt) was useful because he actually had a sword made of pickmon that he would use to fight other digimon and he even took up the role of the leader one episode so he was a bit more useful but the girl was useless(I think)
@@wilkinscoffee7166 Angie was there to be there and complain
They do it in the manga
I never knew they had digimon in the manga @@basurama555 what digimon did they give Jermie and Angie
Fun Fact: The only reason of why Hunters exists was to fill timeslot until the release of Saint Seiya Omega, no joke
TBH hunters is my second favourite digimon series behind adventures.
@@zebimicio5204 Hunters was supposed to be a full season, the production just collapsed
@@leonardofarias8843 Well that's sad
Aiman Imran digimon hunter was trash they should have kept it with the first two season. Taigeru was worst than Davis no character development whatsoever
Or it’s probably because Saban ruined the show.
To be perfectly honest I loved this series despite it’s flaws, though I perfectly understand why it’s not well liked by the community.
A lot of people can agree with me here but to watch and enjoy to the fullest would be to see the subbed versions.
Especially for the soundtrack, that was replaced in the English version, We are Xros Heart, The Guardian, X5’s themes were a few examples of really good music for the franchise.
Weirdly enough I enjoy this series more than I thought I would. Tamers was my most favorite of the series.
As a kid never really got into the series but tamers grabbed my attention cause guilmon was freaking epic. After that lost interest again.
Kinda got curious with frontier and enjoyed a bit of it.
I enjoyed the beginning of data squad/savers at the beginning (English dub) but it got boring fast for me.
Xwars was actually enjoy that I stuck with watching it every week when it released.
@@amvlegended I just what to to say digimon fuiso was the beat in my opinion it the reason why where all here
xros wars has some of the best music in digimon periodt. fuck Fusion all my homies hate fusion
I'll admit this show has its flaws but I still enjoyed it. Unlike most people I'm willing to overlook most flaws so I can actually enjoy what I'm watching. Or I use said flaws to make jokes instead of complain.
10000% agree
I don’t care what everyone think of me but this series got me into digimon so I love this anime so much.
I am glad you enjoyed it. As someone older, I prefer the earlier season.
@@melissamurray8307 and I respect you for that
Guess im not the only one, BROTHA
Same
It used to be my favorite until I watched tamers I can't find fusion anywhere anymore 😔
I personally really loved Xros Wars. It is one of my favourite seasons for a few reasons, one being the music in the original for example, but I also really loved Taiki/Mikey's character. Others may hate him or find him boring, but he reminded me of Hikari/Kari who I looked up to as a kid. The previous leaders were blockheads, stubborn, lacked leadership skills, etc, but now we had a true leader who was not only brave and intelligent, but also really caring and selfless. He was willing to sacrifice himself for others without hesitation, he believed in others when no one else did, and he always tried to stay positive despite everyone's negative spirits. Of course his character is unrealistic in a sense, but it is a TV show after all, though, I am sure there are people like him. People who are so giving, people who can't say no when others ask, and it can be draining, but I love his outlook and reasoning on it. It would suck to turn away someone who asked you for help, just for something to later happen to them. He doesn't want to feel that guilt knowing he could have done something when he had the chance. Because of his personality, his team grew, and he was able to unite the other kids and defeat the enemy, so I think it's really sweet. ^_^
You are a digimon fusion GOD!!!!!
@@shoutmondx8740 Maybe not a god, but it's my favourite season besides Frontier. Of course Adventure is amazing and nostalgic, but there's so much charm in those two. What did you like about the season? 😄
Well I've never watched season 3/xros wars but my favorite season in fusion was season 2
Same
Same
I enjoyed Xros Wars. For me the second...series? It was kinda broken up into 3 for some reason. But the 2nd one about the Death Generals was really great. The pacing was nearly perfect. By far the best part of it.
I think I stopped watching partway through the second, but that was mainly because that was when the dub was announced. But uh... *oof.*
I know it was awesome
Also, it becomes much darker like I cry at deckerdramon, beelzemon, and damemon deaths
I watched fusion when I was 4
What I hated about it was how LAZY the fusions were. The whole point of fusion was to become stronger, and form something new and or like they are something combined. They are literally all just Shoutmon but bigger with more leg or more armor and a few little details added on. He doesnt have anything special about unlike Omnimon or Imperialdramon
That’s the dub’s fault, in the original the “fusing” part is called “digi xross” it’s a different kind of fusion where the digimon doesn’t digivolve when fusing, it’s like they just combine powers, where in the other series digimon fusing would allow them to unlock a new level of power digivolving into a higher level digimon like above mega level like omnimon. That’s why the “digixross” digimon doesn’t have ranks like ultimate or mega. It’s weird
@@Lloyd991P Combining there powers together is still fusion
Xros vs fusion is meant to be that Xros is basically the other digimon only Armor around the digimon to make itself stronger, its like to give a simple example legos, You have 1 block and all your doing with xros is adding more blocks to that block to make it bigger and more stronger, especially with this you get the previous digimons attacks and features they would have, its not fusion where actually you fuse two or more digimon and get a whole new digimon. all Xros is is not evolving just a increase in strength and giving that digimon features and moves the digimon before had (Example later on Shoutmon meets a Beelzemon and he gets black wings in this Xros) Tbh Xros is how i say a quicker fusion but less powerful as for fusion you need a bond etc vs Xros where you don't really need that you just kinda need them to be your digimon.
Stil bad as it's based too heavily on Shoutmon, not the many other Digimon they partnered with. They added last minute combinations in the final fight for that reason, showcasing how OP Wisemon and Knightmon were
@@kai_824
A sacrifice for the toys various combinations.
Renamon is still the reigning queen till this day.
-and I am glad. Staple furry waifu for sure.
Renamon is the reason why digimon is shit
Excuse me da fuk did you just say
We all saw the gamers video, and we know why 😉
Mervamon is better
You cannot kill what was almost already dead
Yo justin I just saw you on the hacksmith's channnel how you be everywhere at once?
@@aquatail753 *You're
Omae wa mou shindeiru means you are already dead
Na-Nani?
@@aquatail753 nani
How I feel about fusion evolutions (mostly on Shoutmon's fusions)
7 years ago:- this is the most awesome thing evaaaaaap
Nowadays:- this is not a digimon. Its a fcking *MEGAZORD*
Actually they are not technically fusions per se, but rather digixros. Digifusion, or fusion evolution in your case, means something else.
Well, Super Sentai and Digimon are two Bandai + Toei franchises whose English localisations were owned by Saban, Disney, and Hasbro at the same times, although I'm not 100% sure if Hasbro really can localise Digimon now.
Shoutmon X7 is like a fucking Gundam
*cough* Omegamon *cough*
Android Dude Thingy _Mobile Suits_ (not “Gundam”) are real robots.
Shoutmon X7 is a friggin Super Robot.
Appmon basically took the fusion element and fixed it, they actually combine and make actual new monsters based on both monsters instead of uncreatively slapping random parts from other digimon onto shoutmon's body and call it a fusion, appmon is a lot more creative in that regard.
Appmon is a really good spin-off if you ask me, i unironically cried in some scenes, the story is consistent and the appmons had a really cool design, but i still can't figure out if Gatchmon is a mammal or a reptile
@@70Lu07
Gatchmon is a cat though... ain't he?
@@Antyla he may beeeeeeeeee a triple part of reptile and mammal and cat......... maybe?
cats are mamals
@@70Lu07 there were some emotional sences but didn't cry (mostly because I don't what to cry for simple things) but almost cry...almost -_-
That missionary joke tho.
That one hit too close for comfort...
Wow its a crossover lol
I don't get it
Missionary.........work 🤣
Darbursa has the best chance to be the first player in a series.
If you decide to, I'm eager to see you review Cyber Sleuth!!
Why? He'd just make bull shit up this dude knows nothing and does no research
@@jaygardner6639 He was streaming it at one point.
@@jaygardner6639 Billiam's a cool dude, and he's really nice.
And hopefully Hacker’s Memory too
J.J. Gardner and yet you can’t provide evidence of such? That just proves your lying
They changed Yuu's backstory so his goldfish died instead of his grandma....It's like the people who dubbed Digimon Fusion genuinely hate the franchise and wanted it to die.
Don't forget that Dub Taiki says that dub Akari is useful for making sandwiches as a reason for her to stay rather than supporting the team and the infamous "you don't know Japanese!" moment.
honestly, even though xros wars is a huge hit or miss since it changed soo much stuff about how digimon works,
i actually enjoyed it, and the fact that this is the first digimon anime that actually had animation quality that wasnt always flat and boring like it was made with a 2dollar budget like the previous ones, made atleast more fun to look at
Exactly my thoughts
I loved that.
@@ultralucario9152
I loved Lilithmon and Mervamon!
i liked xros wars i didn't like boys who jump threw time baalmon was best part for me atleast for good reason ''coughtamersnestolgia'' and i still loved the idea of islands of lands in sky and stuff and the easier travel so much good but like frontier there was good and bad frontier i didn't like last 20-25 eps cause it went from team work to needing only two people to do everything and xross wars shelves some of the more fun characters too fast
The animation was exactly what put me off. All the previous seasons had this beautiful, elegant style that made it look almost like a painting, especially for the world and the backgrounds but also leaking into the character and Digimon designs. It's what set it apart from many other modern ugly shows. But then Xros Wars came around and suddenly that charme was lost and instead Digimon now also looked like someone had a giant pot of butter, a polishing rag and way too much time at their hands to smear said butter on everything. So suddenly, everything looks hyper stylized and shining like a sweaty face in the spotlight who forgot to apply face powder. I could have maybe put up with the bad characters and the new concepts I didn't like story-wise, but ON TOP of that horrible new look? Nope.
I personally enjoyed appli mon. The concept was more about the fact that everything can be done through your phone with an app, and the digimon franchise decided to "digivolve" it's concept to the more modern moment (thus the name). Both theme songs were quite decent, the characters do have a great development throughout the series and the villain actually had a person that is more relatable to our current lifestyle.
Not to mention it utilized the digital / technological aspect the most out of all Digimon anime series. The technology is more involved than just "Here are the world made of data - forest, mountains, seas, etc are made of data even though they look just like normal world's ones. The creatures are also made of data as well." For a series that is based on technology, the tech aspect surprisingly (and ironically) just played minimal role in Digimon anime series until Appmon where it was more involved.
Appmon had very interesting premise, sadly it was badly executed.
Honestly loved applimon, had a great arc, executed the missing brother aspect, and had a very satisfying final battle.
Applimon's finale was one of the best in the franchise. The emotional moments throughout the series reminded me of Tamers.
Applimon was actually pretty good and had a unique plot with an ending I did not expect. It seemed quite more popular than Xros Wars I believe. It was also the first time a digimon property aired in TV Tokyo I think, which probably helped since a lot of the bigtime Japanese cartoons aired there
Wait, Applimon did well? Huh. I couldn’t make it through 5 episodes, the Digimon all felt too gimmicky. Like, Digimon have always had overlap in their designs and evolutions, and the evolution methods might have gotten gimmicky, but the Digimon themselves never served one specific purpose the way they seem to in Applimon.
@@AshtonMonitor Yeah, I'm also surprised that Appmon is better liked than Xros Wars.
Xros Wars, while not as deep as the older seasons and has the tendency to be 'childish', I was still entertained by it (at least the first 2 arcs, we don't talk about Hunters).
Appmon was boring and way too childish. It was the only Digimon season that I was very close to abandoning, which is surprising to me because there are other seasons that I disliked way more than Appmon.
Normal digimon fan: hmmmmm I wonder what the fusion fandom is like .
Later
OH GOD NO MORE HENTAI OF MERVAMON
*DEEP CONCERN*
Me:*hugs* cmon let’s go ship Kari and tk together
@@counttheclock3318 ew no
Anyone else like the Takato and Jeri ship?
Just me?
Okay.....
What about lilithmon?
16:18 - "Even though it makes no sense canonically" - Because this was a fanservice season.
Waaaay back when Tamers first aired, fans noticed a pattern and came up with a crazy prediction - which as of Digimon Hunters, mostly came true.
Ryu in Tamers is actually from the Adventure universe. He was the protagonist of at least one Wonderswan game, and at the end of one of the endings, decided to not go back to his own universe, choosing to go to a different one. He's also shown as one of the kids watching the Diaboromon battle over the internet in the movie. That was the first proof that the universes were connected.
Thanks to the card game and other media, we knew how many Royal Knights existed in the Digimon universe, and as of Tamers the attentive fans realized a pattern: Since only a couple new Royal Knights appeared in each series, somewhere around the 6-8th season all 12 (Maybe 13 if the founder counted) would have shown up.
This led to the fan theory that upon all of them being revealed in the anime, there would be some big cross-universe event where every storyline got tied into one.
It's just unfortunate that Hunters handled it so badly.
The past digimon protagonists were pulled from their own dimensions it was explained in the episode
SusurraSpellshield Ah yes, Ryo “Fuck Continuity and only there for Fanservice” Akiyama.
Snake: This is my Angewoman now, hooman!!
Me :Sees snake wrap on the figure
My mind : *Grinns*
Me : Don't even think about it.
I love that he has a banana ball python!!
Angewomon
I hate to be that guy, but the Japanese Digimon Xros Wars was way better than the American Digimon Fusion. I watched fan subs of Xros Wars each week as a new episode came out and it was amazing. There were flaws but they weren't as blatant as they were in the dub. I watched half of the dub before I gave up, it felt so phoned in and watered down. Even the emotion that was conjured by custom music in the original had been stripped away entirely!
Why you should hate yourself? Fusion is literally the worst dubbed Digimon series, with horrible alteration of story, dialogues and names (also that dumb censorship). I have a headache when someone actually says they like Fusion more than original Xros Wars.
@@how1tzer12 People have said they like Fusion over Xros Wars!?
@@bchcomix that would be me
@@bchcomix Well there idiot xros war season 2 is great mostly when he old leader return
@@painvillegaming4119 I can't argue with that, The Legendary Heroes battle was awesome for nostalgic reasons!
Hunters' flaws were inoffensive?
Bro.
23 episodes of waiting for something to progress and then 2 episodes of pants-on-head nonsense to end the series with hype. Hunters made me mad at how badly they wasted the excitement I'd had from the second season of Xros Wars.
At least, the post-credit twist was a VERY nice development for a character I though was done with his arc ;7
Hunter was a mistake that should have never been made. It was the most boring season and the finally was a cringe fest.
Every time someone defends Hunters I get legitimately upset.
You guys can argue about Hunters. All I care about is the dub that might be coming...
Oh wait, it's not coming? Okay, time to build pixel art of digimon in minecraft and burn it.
Mystic Digi Or even better, manga Taiki.
“Digimon fusion is what it’s widely known as”
Really? Because I’ve never even heard of “Digimon Fusion” a whole year after this came out. I’ve heard of Xros Wars tho...
Literally everyone I know has called it Xros Wars for years and years now. Billiam is the only person I have ever seen call it Fusion. He's probably just going with the English version because he has an easier time pronoucing English names.
@Based Eagle Stfu kid
"I need to save people"
SHIROU EMIYA, DIGIDESTINED
DED
Next he will say " people die when they are killed"
Oh man, if only.
DIGIMON DIE WHEN THEY ARE KIL-Wait. What do you mean they respawn?
Excuse me, that's Izuku Midoriya, to you.
Applimon has a well done Agumon cameo.
Wat about Hackmon
@@mattok101digitaltamer9 Appmon Hackmon is a different monster, actually. Hackmon Digimon and Hackmon Appmo are seperate entities.
@@jazzytunester But the lines look similar if you compare em
@@itsyaboiziko2062 Yeah, actually.
Mattok The YTer applimon was trash
Billiam: plays Digimon fusion English op
Me: *Incomprehensibly loud screeching*
The manga acts as a more complete product, I recommend reading that. All the characters feel more involved and more fun. It also gives the actual backstory for our MC.
And we actually get a backstory for the villain!
Plus, the appearance of a certain UlforceVeedramon connects it to a larger Digimon canon.
Plus it includes lore from other seasons and media as well as give us super evolution for other digimon partners like Dorulumon, Ballistamon, Sparrowmon, and Starmon. Also as a bonus, Digimon gijinkas.
the anime makes ppl hated Bagramon without reasons coz he's pure evil. The manga instead makes people sympathized towards Bagramon coz he had a tragic and understandable background.
This is on Netflix and it said that Mikey is 7 years old 😂
lmao
Yeah I remember seeing that description when I was 8 and I was like “No way”
Let's send the baby into the war
Hi frre
69 Likes Are No More!
ADV: Kids save the world
02: Kids save the world. . . Again
Tamers: Kids win against crippling depression, just to suffer by losing their digital friends
Frontier: Kids defeat the devil himself
Savers: Angst Teen kills GOD
Xros wars: Kids play a mega complex chess game against an Edgelord and win with the power of friendship
I enjoyed Xros Wars. It's so simple, doesn't need thinking, plenty of dumb slap-stick comedy (which I love) - I had a good time with it. Also, Apollomon Whispered has Doflamingos voice. That really was a surprising yet positive highlight to me!
13:54 Actually I found out about digimon fusion when looking up weregarurumon and wargreymon just to live in the nostalgia for a bit and continued just typing in random names for digimons like... idk stuff like trashmon, bluemon, and I just so happened to type shoutmon and was amazed that it was an actual digimon and that there was a whole new season I had never heard of
5:38 You should re-watch Frontier, you think he's the "I'm going my own path" kinda dude, but it's actually only for the first few episodes, he becomes a better Matt then Matt, actually caring about the group and willingly sacrificing for Takuya after Takuya's super safe plan to beat Duskmon (Kochi tells him before that it won't work and is way to dangerous for everyone) fails.
Takuya literally accepts death and Kochi jumps in without any hesitation
Those were the days when digimons digivolved to the next level lol
Right
Evolutions took longer than Power Rangers transformation
@@chosenjuan0252 with cool bg music
“It’s just clean, light-hearted fun” is the perfect description for Hunters and it’s why I enjoy the season so much. The writing’s not great and there’s very little character development (except for the conclusion to Yuu’s character arc which admittedly did make me pretty emotional) but it was bright and fun and I was perfectly okay with that, especially since it was a short season.
As for Xros Wars, I liked it a lot but I have to admit it does have issues and you pretty much nailed them.
I was nervous about Appmon but it honestly became my favorite Digimon series, I highly recommend giving it a chance at least! Either way, I’ve really enjoyed these Digimon reviews
Appmon is totally not a spin-off, it literally has Digimon in it, and it hits the Digimon theming perfectly, it also has dark tones that really work and you can tell ghost game definitely took inspection from it
Dude it’s titled Digimon Universe: Applimonsters. And they call themselves Appmon not Digimon it’s a spin-off
You can't call anything digimon a spin-off because there is no main series.
@@slavishentity6705I kind of agree, but I headcannon that adventure and adventure 02 universe is main series
I enjoyed Xros Wars. I didn’t enjoy Fusion. The English adaptation of this show butchered what the Japanese version actually was. They took out well timed jokes in favor for one-liners that were relevant to today’s kids but ultimately not funny (like a line said by Taiki/Mikey’s guy friend who I can’t remember the name of about other kids in the digital world having phones that they could play games on). For the first two seasons of Xros Wars, the show was good. Nowhere near the level that previous seasons of Digimon were, but still enjoyable. Young Hunters, though, was an abomination and we should just forget that exists. Only redeeming factor of that season was the final battle bringing all the Digimon leads from past seasons into one final battle. That was a nice treat for old fans.
The last battle was like shove taogiru aside we need to see masaru punch devilmons
It's hard to ruin a season that was already bad.
Ehh... That "nice treat" was a missed opportunity for dimension-hopping so the new protagonists could get strong enough to win. There was even a perfect "we're pinned down" moment for them to retreat, since the digimon that did the dimension-hopping was with them.
Maybe it was good they didn't do it though. They dropped a lot of stuff they could have done better, so who knows how badly the dimension-hopping would have been done. For example the "leapt through time" reference in the title had me for a while convinced that the DigiQuartz was actually the future, where the digital and real worlds had somehow gotten fused.
Hunters only existed because the new saint seiya was delayed and Toei was too stubborn to let go of their TV slot on TV tokyo, so they rushed a new batch of digimon episodes so thy could keep the slot
The dub also ruined Savers
Applimon is actually really good! I wasn't sure at first since I.... didn't enjoy Xros Wars a lot, but Applimon felt like a different take on Digimon that followed the same spirit. It was original, the main characters were good, and it was very fun. Not every episode was amazing but it had some cool twists and cool moments
same feeling
Appmon have some of the most beloved characters. They sometimes might like in Eri or Tora/Astra's case, but they make you feel empathy towards them in terms of their character development.
@@jackycheung2781 that's why torajiro, Yujinn and Haru stays in the group in the sequel
The main characters are Kazuki, Haru, Yujinn, Ai, Torajiro and Kumiko
And their partner digimon and appmon are Pheasantmon(a digimon Kazuki drew when he was a kid when his phone turned on by bootmon the drawings and the digimon universe are now turned into an app, and created the digimon world also brought him to life), Gatchmon(who has longer horns on his helmet and a yellow cape), Agumon, Offmon, Gabumon(Yujinn's digimon partner who is gentle for offmon and the others), Musimon, tentomon(Torajiro's partner digimon and also Torajiro's number 1 fan), Wizardmon(he was once a candlemon an appmon who was trained by mirrormon but bullied by other appmon, he later leaves mirrormon's dojo and set off on a lonely journey, when he discovers the digimon world he rested there until he later digivolved into wizardmon, when he was exploring he saw Ai Kashiki who was one of the victims of the human application project, he saw and he thinks she's going to be shredded, so he saved her from becoming an appmon chip, when she's back to the real world she has no memory of him, until now when she sees him again, Wizardmon became her partner), and Bushbabymon(Kumiko's digimon who has a little stink problem)
I didn't really took that seriously because it look like arc v
Fusion was my childhood but going back it hasn’t aged well for me
I remember watching Xros Wars weekly and posting in a forum about it. Wasn't the best, but I still had fun with the series as a whole. Though Xros Hunters, the series that came after, was pretty bad. While Xros Wars was on the verge of being canceled, Xros Hunters just got its time slot immediately taken away, which meant they had to rush the ending. Also, while the collecting aspect seemed cool, there wasn't much done with it, and Tagiru probably only uses three or so of his extramons. The ending even just kind of shoves the main character role to him, when he admits he did nothing to earn it. The fact that it doesn't have its own review and is just taped onto the end of this one shows that it's just "there".
Pretty much.
Goose Dawson hunters in my opinion I watch all digimon and the last episode is the best spoilers all digimon season main characters came back in one episode
yo i think i've read that forum before,,, is it possible is was on a website called "digimon system restore"?
Xros Wars 1st Arc:Slow & rather boring with a few exceptions (Shoutmon x4 vs Neptunemon for example) until they get to the SandZone. Here we're introduced to Sparrowmon (Shiny Latias) just before Beelzemon joins the Fusion Fighters. Then the 2nd half of the 1st Arc is rather low quality. The 2nd Arc where they fight the 7 Generals though was great & about what you would expect a Digimon series to be like. Young Hunters wasn't dubbed for good reason. Xros Wars/Fusion is clearly the worst Digimon series, although it had some awesome parts here & there. Also I thought Nene was going for Mysterious in 1st Arc, then Beautiful in 2nd Arc, as she isn't mysterious anymore by the point they decided to make her attractive.
Great comment I liked Xros Wars as well not perfect but enjoyable which is what all Digimon needs to do
The Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal of Digimon
More like Digimon version of link summoning in Yu-Gi-Oh.
Hunters is Dragon Ball Super of Digimon
Red Alpha Nah. Zexal killed the fan base for a short time, and by short I mean a good ass 3 years ☠️ Vrains is actually really good right now, and might be the best Yugioh Series if it ends strongly and doesn’t pull a Arc-V. ( meaning having amazing high potential and dropping to shit .)
@@redalpha8924 At least YGO Vrains is a great show
Hey Jaden your right Digimon fusion is the Yugioh zexal Mikey and Shoutmon are Yuma and Astral while Davis is the Jaden to be honest don't hate me Davis kind of grew on me his moment was helping Ken Mikey has none nor Shoutmon I prefer Digimon 02 than Digimon fusion
And Netflix replaced the original three seasons of digimon with this trash
Me too
it’s sad
We have Hulu tho
adventure is on hulu
@@Joe_Megh And Tamers, and Frontier.
Mervamon is BEST GIRL
Stupid censorship. What are they, 4kids?!
Because they needed those boys to be glued to the screen when the story went to crap. Camel toe against the screen boys come and watch our show!
@@thesupershinymegagengar2034 uhhh, heck no. Its rosemon
@@Proxima505 Who's that? I didn't say anything about best girls.
I'll take Laylamon/lilithmon
Applimon is actually pretty good for what it's worth
We do not credit its existance
You might be mistaken on that one
I was laughing so hard at the digifusion between the snake and the Angewomon figure
Me :Sees snake wrap on the figure
My mind : Could it be the snake wrap her fo-
Me : Don't even think about it.
That Angewoman and Snake fusion was hilarious.
Really we all know Billiam will kill Digimon in the end
Implying that digimon can be killed.
I know he knows nothing about it he just makes shit up
@@jaygardner6639 how so?
@@jaygardner6639 How?
Top ten anime plot twists
Appli-monsters is really good though. It's semi-slow but has a very adult teaching theme
I think your first problem with Xros Wars is acknowledging that Fusion exists.
oh digi-fusion exist. look like ma boy paildramon. silphymon and all of gen-3's mega form. the issue isn't xros war has fusion, its the fact they fucked it up. digimon isn't fucken transformer, if you are going to do fusion. give us actual fucken digifusions. as in give us something new and exciting, and not just, you put shoutmon on top of _____mon, and here you have it, fusion.
ming chen that’s DNA Digivolution
@@mingchen7704 i agree with u
People like before xros wars "we want something new" but after xros wars "I hate new things" I mean come on if it looks like transformers than what's wrong, we have all those old concept of digimon evolving into rookie to mega or SU in previous season and xros wars included something new and people hate it because they just wanted to see power levels. I mean digimon is literally a data with life form and data can be mixed with other data so digi xros/fusion is nothing surprising
@@inamdaryasin you biased, nothing last forever,
I love how you did admit that maybe it was nostalgia that made the earlier Digimon series seem less childlike.
And to be fair, for a kid, Mikey would look quite cool.
And frankly, I think it should be noted that a large part of the reason for WHY lots of Digimon games failed... was because they SUCK AT MARKETING... I mean, seriously, Pokemon, Dragon Ball Super and so many franchises actually make sure people know they are coming out.
I do remember that Digimon did announce a game and it got a lot of views... but then MONTHS go by and it just gets forgotten.
Hell, even Tri got the same marketing disasters. People can't buy games if you don't tell them about it, and you shouldn't expect a person to remember an announcement from MONTHS ago...
That said, my favorite Digimon was actually Digimon Savers (or Data Squad). The characters were awesome and fun, though I do wish they just did more. It was cool, but it was also a HUGE waste of potential.
I was actually relieved that the digimon story series game(like cyber sleuth,re digitized,next order) are doing pretty well,and those game are aimed at adult.
Not maybe, for sure.
...actually I watched liek 1 clip of Adventure 01 in japanese and was like "wow, I can't handle this. They just all said 'it's shining!' over and over for a whole minute or so..." at least that's what I think I remember
I think that watching the dub made it probably very different... I rewatched an ep of Adventure 02 after I had grown up and realized just how rapid fire they talked in it, probably loading up extra dialogue or something. I know that DBZ had a ton of extra dialogue added into it that was not in the original
I'm not about to claim one is better than the other, but I think that the time I attempted to watch Xros Wars, it was sub only and I did indeed feel like it was "so childish I could only last 5 minutes" (probably not a fair assessment considering I watched 5 whole minutes)
I am watching Ghost Game right now and am almost up to date in japanese, and it also Definitely feels like a childrens show to me, but with added "almost very good horror elements for a few minutes before it goes back to being a kids show"
......the logic in the show is just hella ALL OVER THE PLACE but I still enjoy it. Half the fun comes from lampshading it, and oh my god if I don't want a hug from Angoramon. Best boy.
oh my god yeah also I played Digimon Dawn or whatever, and boy was it addicting. Literally only knew Digimon had videogames from... being a digimon fan and being on the internet looking for fan content and on wikis, idk. Why are they so trash at marketing lol. Also I want Digimon Survive already XD ...also man, yeah I need to continue Data Squad, I was pretty into it for a bit but I think what happened was I couldn't find any more episodes online way back years ago.
@@tsunfish9443 Something I had noticed in old dubs (I first took note of it in Yu-Gi-Oh) is that they added in so much extra dialogue in any scene where they could get away with it. I assume they figured kids would get bored with calm moments, or scene establishing shots, so they threw in more people talking to keep attention.
@@WolforNuva wow, even though I also listed DBZ as an example, I didn't realize this was a thing across the board for old dubs... Yeah, adults sure think a lot of things for how to entertain kids, so that sounds really plausible
"Digimon doesn't have to reinvent itself"
But Digimon Tamers, the season you and I know to be the best, reinvented not just Digimon, but the whole 'mon genre, brutally deconstructing it even.
I'm not the biggest fan of Digimon Savers, but I still appreciate it tried to do something different. The reason I stuck with that season but not Xros Wars was because Xros Wars didn't reinvent itself, period. I hate cliches and repetitive formula, so a rehashed storyline is a big turn-off for me.
XROS Wars/Fusion was pretty much a ripoff of Sentai shows and/or Humongous Mecha anime. Which was PARTLY why it seemed weird.
Tamers actually was the only of the 2 anime products who get close to the lore and use some of the RL elements from all the products (including V-Pets , cards and even the manga). The other is X Evolution who was the one WHO SAVE the franchise.
Also the guy here seems to didn't even look up all the info since Digimon AMOST died way back as a franchise with Frontier instead.
@@Raisen_ch That was actually the planned ending for Digimon until fans pressured them to make a sequel, which was Savers/Data Squad. THAT'S where Digimon nearly died worldwide. Only a few games were released during the gap between Savers and Xros Wars. Nothing else.
@@GaomonAndLucario yeah! i knew that too , amost forgot to mentioned who X Evolution was ment to be that "the ending" of Digimon as a franchise. Yeah! it was considerated a little dead until recently.
@@GaomonAndLucario If it was dead after Savers was released, Xros Wars wouldn't have been made, neither would that MMO based on Savers' characters (can't remember the name).
Anyway, why does it even matter? At least Savers tried. There was effort put into shaking things up with a different setting, not cash-in on a decade old franchise with some lazy rehash.
Back when I was a kid it was always fun watching digimon but now that I'm older I realized how good the japanese music was. Like I watched every season up to the end of digimon fusion but all of it was in dub. But once I checked out the subbed versions I realized how freaking good the songs were. While I was listening to one guy say "Digimon digital monsters" for who knows how many episodes the people who watched the subbed version got to listen to butterfly.
Same thing with me. I'm from Brazil and our dub ruined the Digimon Adventure's opening, worse they had the presenter from the "Cartoon Hour" sing it and I always hated when they put a presenter that wasted time where one more cartoon could be aired.
It doesn't help that the franchise has _loads_ of songs to choose from. Season 3 alone has like 50 songs including character songs and op/ed. All of them are good too.
I refuse to watch adventure in English I've always hated that "hey Digimon" song I remember getting really bad subs of the show from limewire
Latin Spanish dub keeps winning
Even the snake seems inordinately drawn to Angewomon...
The only thing good about fusion is the fact that Ben Diskin voices Shoutmon
Ben Diskin's voice is sheer bliss, and the scratchiness to it somehow makes it even better.
@@solierafromtheultrareconsquad Freakin' Numbuh 2!
Also Kyle Hebert.
Ban from seven deadly sins voiced shoutmon damn
Ben Diskin is the canon voice for Shoutmon in my head.
I liked the manga better.
It made villains like Lilithmon an actual threat who actually wasnt afraid to get her hands dirty and fight. In the anime she was literally forgettable and all I can remember is how much she reminded me of team rocket but instead of being likable shes just horrible in every sense.
It's my least favorite season. But I did enjoy its manga adaptation marginally more then the anime
Mr.Sloth Heck, Taiki doesn’t feel like a Gary Stu in the manga because he has a backstory.
Nene was also much more of a character in the manga. Hell she even references Tamers in a really cool way. I'm with you on the manga being way better.
Plus it gave Lord Bagramon a backstory, which made him very sympathetic than the anime incarnation, in which there was reason for his ambitions over his plan.
The manga gave Christopher and his digimon personality
The one thing I liked best in the manga is how Mikey/Taiki is given a reason for how he is due to feeling like his actions causing a friend, Tatsuya, to be hurt just because he thinks it's because of one of his dreams and just felt he didn't deserve a dream.
Fusion is the BEST! That was the first cartoon series I really followed and can't wait to watch it everyday after school
"they just become a sword over and over again"
~Billiam, 2019
I mean ofc
Its really amazing how Pokémon can keep releasing the same game/anime with the first 151 Pokémon and does fine but Digimon tries to do something different and no one cares.
This series is wah got me into digimon
But Pokemon has over 700 Pokemon and the games do change and add things over time. Mega Evolution in X&Y or the Island Trials in Sun & Moon.
That's becuase Pokemon does little changes in each game/anime while Digimon makes completely different changes. It's a similar situatiion with Mario keep things similar while Sonic struggles despite changing it up in each game.
@@crabby6617 digimon has over a 1000 digimon at least in pretty sure its closer to 10,000 to be honest
@@crabby6617
You're acting like Digimon never changed or didn't have a shit ton of creatures.
Your snake is a born actor, knows exactly what must be done to sell the scene. 5/5 video would watch again.
10:18 I see you have a classy snake
* Danger Noodle
Do not mess with snek's waifu.
@@EssexAggiegrad2011 cute danger noodle snek
Snek wants Waifu
I actually liked Applimon for what it was
It has some familiarity to digimon but uses the apps to try something new. Some characters were a bit annoying at first but i really grew to like them and their quirks (even Cho noneru norenai oddly enough). They manage to put kid moments along with some more serious moments pretty well
Honestly, the best part about Xros Wars was the Japanese soundtrack. Koji Wada always had the best songs.
I'll be real, I have no issue with kids dubs for younger anime. I loved the original Digimon Xros Wars, it's one of my favorite seasons unironically. I whole heartedly blame the dub for a majority of the hate Xros Wars receives. And it has nothing to do with me being older, as I loved the dub for Yokai Watch which is even newer than Xros Wars. I've found a lot of newer dubs for kids anime have been making them even MORE kiddy than the older kids dubs did. Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-Vs dub does the same thing, even more censorship than in older seasons except in Arc-Vs case even the voice acting was kind of ass. Newer kids dubs seem to be going waaaayyyy down hill for whatever reason.
It's their hidden plot to make kids join the Sub Master Race as early as possible. :)
i LOVED ygo arc v (even the end -.-) , tbh cant stand watching Vrains, i find it so boring
@@Charlosyt But VRAINS has a mature story like 5Ds :(
@@weltgeist2143 ...so did Arc-V???? All the seasons 5ds onward got more serious
I wholeheartedly agree that Xros Wars is better than Fusion. I mean there's inconsistent edits, cuts, and weird dub changes that really confused. Some of dub changes I hate are Dub Akari's line of not being Japanese, bad dub names like: Reapmon, Axeknightmon( I know DeadlyAxemon is one of his component Digimon,but Darkknightmon sounds cooler), Laylamon, Marusumon, Arukadhimon, Lord Bagra, Mikey, Omnishoutmon( should be Omegashoutmon because of the Omega symbol), and the digixros name change for digifusion.
The most common route digimon takes: whenever there’s a new addition to the main cast, they ALWAYS make them an enemy first
Kari was bad ?
Something else, they often make the new digimon stronger than the iconic classics
Everyone in comment section: Digimon Fusion sucks!!!!
Me: I kinda liked it.
Ronald Gladson me too
Me too
Xavier Fuentes same here, the dub was mediocre at best though
Nedu Egeh most dubs are but people still like em because they grew up with them
It's what got me into the series as a kid, so I have deep nostalgia for it. Though because of the deep decline it had in Europe briefly afterward, it's more memories of a show I'd just stumble across if I was lucky
Would you cover Code Lyoko?
I really liked that show
Did it ever finish
@@johnlawful2272 sorta
@@johnlawful2272
It's as done as it will ever will be
@@johnlawful2272 Yes it finished it had four complete seasons and the finally beat the sentient computer ai or whatever the thing was.
@@thomaswest2583 Good old X.A.N.A
Actually you should totally watch Applimon. I wasn't sure about it at first too but it is actually pretty good. Definitely pleasantly surprised by it.
Where, tho? Honestly asking. Curious about the show, but no one's streaming it as far as I know. (Well, no one legal, anyway, but whatever.)
@@davidwaller3541 realy appmom is good i mean i realy like hacker dude but aside from that att best the other caracthers are passable and the pacing is horrible, not as bad as hunters trough.
As someone who has read the manga, its amazing how the anime didn't even try to adapt some ideas from the manga
Best part for me was Shoutmon. I love his design and Omegashoutmon
Me too, he’s a funny character
Digimon fusion was great ngl no hate for the ones who dont like it
Just because it is "show for kids" does not mean it is only _show for kids._
---Zangief
I had a hard time sitting through the Leap Through Time, but the Seven Death Generals was easily the best of the bunch
Leap Through Time was not Xros Wars. It was a bastardisation of it that didn't even respect it's own characters. [EG: Nene does anything to save Yuu. Now she can't be asked to help Yuu even when he's in depression because **she's a model!**]
It's always so weird to me that Xros Wars was so unpopular. I can understand the dub wasn't great, but I watched only the sub, and it's my favorite Digimon series! The story and characters were great, to me at least, and the music in particular is some of my favorite anime music. Even the background music, not just the songs and stuff, it's just fantastic! I suggest giving it a listen, folks have playlists of the whole soundtrack here on RUclips.
The idea of Xros Wars was that Bagramon was bringing child prodigies to the Digital World, trying to get one that would allow him to unlock certain powers, and that was Nene's brother. But that's also why Kiriha and Nene were brought there, though Nene mostly went along with it to rescue her brother. Taiki is also a child prodigy. He's not just really good at sports, he's good at everything, like the others. They show off the sports, but mention other things in passing, and he and the others are meant to be generals of various digimon armies trying to conquer and unite the world. Of course, Taiki does this primarily by making friends with the various digimon and helping them defend themselves against the other armies that are just trying to subjugate them.
The rivalry between Taiki and Yuu as two genius tacticians was a pretty central idea, and Kiriha was also meant to be a rival in there. All of them fighting eachother was also meant to hone their skills and power, for Bagramon's plan.
With so few human characters, there was also a lot of emphasis put on the digimon and their relationships, so that was pretty interesting. I was surprised you didn't mention Cutemon even once! Pardon the spoiler for anyone reading who hasn't watched it yet, but their big reveal "I'M A BOY!" was really impactful for me. All through the series, folks were treating them like a kid and using either gender-neutral or female descriptors, but it was really impacting their pride. They're also as important as any of the human characters at the very least, since they're outside of the Xrosloader most of the time, hanging out with Dorulumon.
I'm really curious why it was so unpopular in Japan. Do you happen to know? I might guess that making all the main characters child prodigies would make them hard to relate to, but I'm not sure if it was that or something else. Like I said, I loved it! It was my favorite by far, even though I was well into adulthood when I watched it. It's hard to see what folks wouldn't like about it, from my perspective, and your coverage mostly seems to show the flaws in the dub, even though you also watched the sub and said they had many of the same flaws. I just don't get it?
Anyways thanks for reading my super long RUclips comment. As one final note, you mentioned how 'attractive' many of the female type digimon look. Maybe you're just straight and didn't notice, but the male digimon are also super hot. The main designer for Digimon is Gay with a capital G. It's a big part of their identity and culture, and they like thick muscley guys in dramatic military inspired outfits. Also belts! He really likes belts. I'm actually impressed he's able to make hot lady digimon at the same time. Getting both sides covered is really nice.
I only liked xros war because of the hype crossovers...
Digimon Xros Wars wasn't that bad I definitely think the worst part about it was Hunters. Although I think the manga is ten times better than it.
What do you think if the writers should have done right in Xros wars for me is to improve the story, character personality, character design, and get rid of dead weight characters that don't do much in the story.
@Jack Bat
Season 3's strong point is in its adult characters who actually does _something important_ rather than letting children do the job. Don't know about the pokemon though. Do you even watch pokemon? I mean, the three Tamer kids do fight each other early on but that's it. If there's anything bad about it is the cards that is forgotten halfway through the series... and Ryo. I hate how he appears out of nowhere yet still is on the same level as the three kids with no explanation whatsoever. Just... no.
Is there a Manga based on all of the digimon seasons?
@@Antyla Jack Bat didn't mean Season 3 to be Tamers. Xros Wars with Taiki/Mikey was split into two seasons, and "Season 3" would be the Young Hunters /Tagiru part.
@@PissedGrunty
Ah, the universally hated season. My bad
Subscribed.
Also, as someone who watched Appli Monsters on his 20s, I can fully say, that once you’re ready...
Don’t sleep on it. It’s got far more value than some think.
I hope we would have Mervamon in the digimon games one day. I know certain group of people don't want her because of her "appeal", but I look past that (Like I wish most people would on most things).
We have Minervamon in games. We dont neef mervamon.
@@dorugoramon0518 Doesn't hurt to have more options considering the amount of Digimon we have nowadays.
I hope we get to use Dorbickmon in some game too.(I am not sure if he is in any of the games yet)
@@nightshroud9671
Oh yeah, his design was awesome.
@@dorugoramon0518
Except as a digivolution/slide evolution for Minervamon.
I don’t care what people say Digimon Fusion is my favorite Digimon series
Weirdly I enjoy Appli-mon better than most previous Digimon series.
It feel grounded in a way that I can't explain.
I liked Digimon fusion as a little kid but I plan on rewatching it
The titanic Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode was super dope, yo.
Especially when you hear We are Xros Heart X7 in the background.
8:00 I would had described it as shiny Latios/Latias. XD
Pretty much
Sparrowmon is a shiny latias with guns and that's why its my favorite
I mean... both those Pokémon and this Digimon are literally based on F-16 Fighting Falcon
@@wargreysama actually latias was originally the same pokemon as Blaziken, before they got unique designs. Latios was then designed as a doubles counterpart to latias
@@tripled2096 That still doesn't change the fact that Latios and Latias designs are based on F-16.
Funny thing with the finale of Hunters is that it actually does make canonical sense since Digimon is established to exist within an infinite multiverse which means that the past characters who show up can be an infinite number of versions. Also you really should check out Appmon. It’s surprisingly good.
No, it can't be a multiverse otherwise Bagramon could have summoned the Digimon Kaiser to defeat Taiki back in Xros Wars.
John Balkin Taiki’s been shown to be far more powerful than most other digimon tamers in the multiverse. So the Digimon Kaiser would be no threat to him. Bagramon (Darknessbagramon) is one of the most powerful digimon period. In the Xros Wars anime Bagramon’s goal was to replace the God of the digimon multiverse and it’s implied he could have possibly succeeded if it weren’t for Shoutmon X7 superior mode. The digimon multiverse is in fact well established in the lore. The digimon wonderswan games explore it and ends up crossing over the Adventure and Tamers universes; which the events of the games are referenced in the anime. The Xros Wars manga and Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth both go into great depth about it. Next and V-Tamer also briefly explore it. So yes, the infinite multiverse is canon.
Yes Taiki is powerful, but the Kaiser could definitely help take him down.
Also Bagramon could not defeat Quartzmon or Black Knightmon.
His goal was not to replace Yggdrasill and later Homeostasis, it was to show how unfair the world is to virus type Digimon.
The wonderswan games (Brave Tamer) had ENIAC who exist in both Tamers and Adventure so It can't be a multiverse.
The Xros Manga heavily implied it was a sequel to V tamer and Savers and that Zero is a Royal Knight, the same one in Savers if it's a sequel how can it be a multiverse.
The V-Tamer manga just had the 02, Frontier and V-Tamer MC come to Taichi and Zero aid.
02 was via Parallelmon who has the ability to travel parallel worlds and parallel worlds are not a multiverse
V-Tamer had ENIAC
Frontier... was a bit weird has both Zero and Taichi were sent to someplace, they had nothing to do with Frontier or V-Tamer.
I am yet to play Cyber Sleuth.
Also how does Guilmon and Kimeramon exist in the multiple digimon games and anime if there is a multiverse?
John Balkin Bagramon couldn’t beat Quartzmon due to being severely weakened from his fight with Taiki. When I say he wanted to replace God, I don’t mean Yggdrasil, Homeostasis, or ENIAC. I mean the God that was briefly mentioned in Digimon Next who’s said to be the supreme deity. Cyber Sleuth blatantly states that the multiverse is infinite. Also in the Wonderswan games, it’s established that Zeedmilenniamon had already destroyed hundreds of universes and makes Ryou fight evil versions of Taichi, Daisuke, and Takato all being their EOS versions despite the fact that Brave Tamer is set after Adventure, during 02, and before Tamers. Also parallel worlds are a multiverse. It’s just that in V-Tamer they never establish its size. If you want to know more this is a great article about the cosmology of the digital worlds and real worlds of the Digimon franchise vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Executor_N0/Digimon_Franchise:_Digimon_Cosmology.
@@maxfightmaster4832Bagramon had One Year to recover and he was in the Digital World during that time, I doubt it would take him that long to be back in full strength.
We don't know anything about Digimon God, as far as we know Yggdrasil, Homeostasis, or ENIAC are much more powerful.
Bagramon was once an Angel now a fallen Angel so he already was a supreme deity.
I really need to play Cyber Sleuth and get myself a PS4 or maybe a Vita. I can't comment on that.
The Wonderswan games needs a remake, we only ever see Tamer and 02 worlds... nothing from Tri or Frontier or even V-Tamer (I am aware they didn't exist, but V-Tamer did), just different variations of those 2 worlds.
The destroyed hundreds of universes, could just be variations of Adventure, 02 and Tamers.
The Wonderswan games needs a remake.
Parallel Worlds are not a multiverse, if they were then every single story with Time Travel is a multiverse.
I'll read the article later, I need to play Cyber Sleuth first, I don't want spoilers.
I don’t care what ANYONE says, I LOVED this show as a kid. Sad that not many episodes are archived nowadays.
God Hunter's crossover scene was so good
Code lyoko
Why mention code lyoko?
Sprite Guy because billiam should talk abot that
agree
Hell yeah
That would be cool.
I will be blunt it was the editing to Laylamon and Mervamon that made me change back to the sub even though I found some of the dubbed voices hilarious, Mostly Ballistamon, Starmon, Cutemon and some of the villain digimon like Tactimon, Neptunemon, IceDevimon and Matadormon
The snake is the clearly the real protagonist of this video
I watched Xros Wars as it was airing and I remember loving the Seven Generals arc the most mainly because Taiki, Kiriha and NeNe were the main characters and the storyline was a lot more consistent. Hunters however I couldn’t get behind, Digimon has always had an overarching story and Hunters just goes NOWHERE until the last 2 episodes because their time slot got pulled and they had to rush to finish it. I also saw concepts for where the series was gonna go if it had continued with one storyline being that Tagiru wasn’t human and he had been created by Quartzmon to understand the relationship between Humans and Digimon for Quartzmon to figure out a way to utilise that power or something, I saw that somewhere right after it ended but haven’t been able to find it since then. If it was honestly where it was going then Hunters could have been saved because the rival hunters and everything were just so pointless.
But yeah Xros Wars I liked, Hunters I did not.
You should give Applimon a try, I’m watching it just now and I’m really liking it because of how different it is, it feels more original and funnily enough concepts from Hunters are present, a parallel dimension, appmon and captured and then used in later episodes etc.
I loved digimon fusion(Xros wars) and hope so that it'll come back.. With the same characters Nene, Mikey and Christopher
Digimon fusion was my heart I loved it buts its gone but one of the best shows ever >:)
The first thing I thought when I saw shoutmon in hunters to fusion was 'look how they massacred my boy'
NOT THE BOOYYYY
Sooo no mention of the second best music in the franchize that Xros Wars had? Alright then...
he's talking about fushion not XW. Which is a mistake in it's own.
@@GamerLord821 I'm asking cause I saw he used several clips with subs and that made me think he checked out some of the original episodes
XW had one of the best composed music ever in the whole series, since it was composed by Kousuke Yamashita.
Fusion will always have a special place in my heart. I remembered watching this show whenever I tuned into Disney XD, and when it left, I anxiously waited for it to come back.
Completely wrong. Digimon Xros Wars's views were really good for it's timeslot with the toy sales being really well. Source: I was on a few Digimon forums back when Xros Wars aired with their own sources on broadcast viewership and toy sales.
Hunters mostly sucked, save for the crossover in the last couple of episodes as it being the only good part of that season. Now HUNTERS is the guilty series with lackluster broadcast views and zero toy sales. Hunters only exists because Xros Wars did very well, and because it was around Digimon's 15th anniversary as a celebration. That being said, Hunters should not be part of Xros Wars since it's not even part of the exact same story, it's like Adventure 2 in that sense. Hunters is season 7 and not part of season 6 (and you can't convince me otherwise).
Fun fact: Taiki's voice actress is Pit's from Kid Icarus Uprising and Smash Bros.
i have also heard that taiki's voice actress is also mameo's (the protagonist of the 1st digimon world)
Wasn't Hunters schedule filler?
the thing about dubs vers subs is nowadays subs is an absolute- for fidelity sake. however due to how they changed the product in the 80s and 90s and leading into the 2000s I think you can realistically criticize the products as two completely different entities. Especially 4kids productions. as pokemon was really the only one they didnt heavily change the context for. *also imagine being the company that wasted such success by ruining good dubbing opportunities.*
Yugioh kept the dame context too, although they toned down all the violence
Yeah, this is the series that killed my joy for Digimon when I was a kid. I dredged through over 80 episodes of this before I stopped. The thing that got me was the complete disregard of the powerlevels that the franchise has used for so long. Seeing Megas getting their butts kicked by champions or rookies beating ultimates was like spitting in the face of the franchise that made up so much of my childhood.
i know 😭it turned me off the series SO much
The reason Fusion's Digimon look like they were designed to be toys first has a very simple explanation.
They were. It was the first time they really wanted to make it a toyline with supporting fiction first, because the fusion element had to work both in-universe and as a play pattern. The only other time they designed the toys before the animation models was the Warp Digivolving Agumon and Gabumon figures. For exactly the same reason, even - it had to work as a toy first, or the toys would either be too inaccurate or too complex for the price point.
I've tried to watch Fusion a few times, but I just couldn't do it. It just felt like it was aimed at younger kids than all the other Digimon series.
It lacked the substance and depth in characters to really draw you in. Say what you will about Fronteir and Data Squad but within the first few episodes you could see some depth in characters.
Eh, feel like that's debatable.
@@fightingmedialounge519 yeah I'd say my argument is a little weak with Data Squad. But I still feel it's objectively a better show then Fusion.
kids?? wasnt the original for kids if you actually watch the whole thing in sub and get further in the story it actually gets pretty dark just like the original
@@robloxsticknews1022 The problem is it took way too long to get to that point. And it kinda comes out of nowhere so it doesn't feel genuine.
This was the first Digimon season I watched, because it was on Netflix and the I went to watch the third part of this on internet. Now six years later I watched the entirety of Digimon Adventure in one month.
I watched fusion as a kid, so it was my favorite