To me what's really cool about this setup is that if you hide the Mac mini away, it almost seems like macOS is running as an App on the iPad. Pretty amazing.
You know how I’m envisioning this for my small apartment? I keep a Mac Mini at home, since I rarely use the computer anyway. For times I do need the computer I have access to one by pulling out my iPad! This way I can still do things like download files to flash drives. Omg this setup will work great for me!!
If you’re going to go this route, there’s also a setting in MacOS to unlock with Apple Watch, rather than a password. It does require you to be very deep into the apple ecosystem, but there are some use cases where that might work for you. Great video, Jonathan!
TheTechPerson Other option is to keep improving iOS for iPad like they have. iOS 12 on iPad is leaps and bounds better than iOS 4 on iPad 1. I think they will continue to this path.
The thing is that mac os is build to work only on x86 processor which is different than mobile processor architure ARM. Hance if you see a geekbench score you might see a12 is faster than the i7 or i5 but thats not the case they are not even comparable as their whole architure on which they are build is different. And if apple wants to put macos on the ipad it simply wont work they would have to put in a x86 processor inside the tablet for it to work.
@@nadeemshaikh7863 do know about if thats true then that wont be macos cause x86 and arm are totally different api even if that is true it would be a stripped down version of macos i imagine
iJustine Love your videos iJ, my favorite one is your original 300 page iPhone bill! Crazy how much technology has changed over time and you and other tech RUclipsrs have been the ones to tell us about tech.
Derek Jonez wrong, a10x is slower than a12 in both cpu vs gpu...yes , not much but still lost...and with a12x is way way more powerful than a12...and a10x is way way more powerful than a10....a huge gap of difference there
@@NamelessPassenger who tf fuck cares about thr power tho, as it is restricted to a bare bones os, the a10x and a12x are gonna perform alnost the same in ios, just like the iphone xs, even if it has the most powerful chip but app opening is still faster on the android will a worse chip, there's no point bragging about the power of the chip if it's not fully utilized
It looks great, and how you're using it really hits home how much better the iPad Pro experience would be with Mac OS. I think it's time for Apple to take iPad down the route of the Surface Pro. As a first gen iPad Pro owner who LOVES the device, the biggest thing holding it back is iOS. Either create a harmonized iOS/Mac OS hybrid solution, or bridge the gap entirely with Mac OS, and THEN we can talk about replacing our computers.
Broseph Stalin read my reply. I tested this years back and Mac OS do not give any extra production value used with touch compared to used with mouse or touch pad. Let MacOS be used how it was designed and let iOS be used as it was designed If you really want a touch screen for MacOS well buy a touch screen for your MacOS device. No need to get an iPad for that.
I’ve been doing this for years. I use an iPad Pro as a 3rd monitor (when needed), with the USB 3 connection of the 12.9” iPad Pro to my Mac Pro’s USB 3 card. All you need is the Duet Display app. It can mirror and use the Apple Pencil like a Wacom tablet, or it can be used as a 3rd separate desktop. It also places the MacBook’s Touch Bar on the iPad screen if you want it. It also works with Windows. I’m kinda missing the excitement of this video. Thought this was common knowledge. He’s not getting much use out of the A12x either, btw.
Programs and capacity of MacOs with the speed, haptic and gestures of iOS combined with an iPad ( Touch Display, Apple Pencil, Mouse, Keyboard, Storage)!!! Apple should do this!
J‘s003 10_1 I swear I have a 11in pro with a portable usb c dongle a apple Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. All I need is MacOS on it my old surface 3 died but it ran full windows and I could dock it to my tv.
Why dont we asked for both...ios inside macos....come on, macos still limited to mac, and ios is limited to mobile device...with 2k bucks, we sure can asked for software tho...i am sure if apple do it, windows will lose a huge match...specially if valve support steam on macos probably
Apple is probaly working for years on mac for arm, with billions and billions.. the thing is that just isn't that simple.. 40 years of legacy software...
This has been around for 3yrs or more. You don’t just need internet connection to use it. By plugging the ipad with the mac will do it as well and its actually smoother that way
In its most simple discription it is a ‘Virtual Two-way KVM’. It reminds me alot of an application I used around 2009 that allowed a user to semesly switch the mouse and keyboard between multiple Mac computers. It is also a misnomer to say ‘Mac OS is running on an iPad’. The respective OSes are still running on their respective HW. Not belittling it, it is truly awsome and useful!
I don’t understand the hype about this. He used an expensive iPad as a display and it’s not natively supported and relies on a solid WiFi network to support it. So it won’t work anywhere, but your house or a friends house or at work if your office has WiFi and then what extra functionality do you get for the $800-$1000? A touch screen and stylus? Have you seen the Surface Studio? Or any surface product? The $500 Surface go has a touch screen and can be connected to another display and one that costs substantially less than an iPad and Mac Mini together.
@@GarretWhiteee with that wonderful sdudio ,i pad, wallpaper screen on the wall...he just need to have a hologram screen and he is gonna be living like iron man
I didn't quite get it either, but after looking through the comment section, maybe the Final Cut Pro part is useful? Cuz I've heard ppl who did editing, it's far easier to have touchscreen sometimes when editing
Touchscreen. It's a small screen compared to your average monitor but if someone has the Mini and the iPad already then *some people* are going to work better on a touchscreen than with a mouse.
@@alreadyusedname112" it's a cheap, high quality display." Cheap!? You're paying as much as $1500 for that "display". You can get a better one for less than $400
@ Danny Winget I wish I had the money to buy things like Apple computers. >_< Sadly the most I can buy with Apple is an iPhone every 2 or 3 years (give or take).
I enjoy your video’s. Have you ever tried using a utility like Jump Desktop. It allowed me to only carry around an iPad Pro for the last year and half to do all my work. Whenever, I need to do something that I can’t do natively on IOS (or is less efficient), I’ll use jump which allows me to connect and mirror, much like Luna display, although you don’t have to be on the same wireless, just being able to connect to your network or PC or Mac. FYI, keep up the good work and happy holidays!
I wish there was a more practical version of this as a product. iOS isn't ready to replace the desktop yet but it would be really nice to have a fully mobile mac desktop experience blended with the touch/pencil functionality of the iPad.
But the display is portable and can be used on the go. Do some light work at a coffee shop, then return to the mini for the rest. Mobility and portability. Better than buying a mac pro or desktop.
@@Montisaquadeis -True. I use an old CPU with my flat screen Tv. But I think the issue was that that new iPad USB-c turned out useless, ex. hard rive. Maybe we are trying too hard to make the new iPad work ..when we should be bashing Apple for their useless "large screen iOS phone."
There are apps for doing this exact thing. Such as Duet Display or iDisplay. They work over USB a whole lot better than wifi. For anyone who has a ipad+mac of some sort weither its a mini or type of macbook. Just stay clear of such apps if your on Android/Windows tho as those are forced to use wifi and the latency sucks MAJORLY. You litterally have to drop them to the lowest resolution and picture quality to the vbare minimun just to get usable latency out of them and then the picture is just a blocky mess. Anything higher and the latency is litterally secs and just unusable.
My point being this is NOTHING new and has been around for LITERAL YEARS no special dongle needed if you just use the USB/Lightning cable that came with your iPad.
My 10-year-old MacBook Pro finally needed to be replaced, and in my opinion, the circumstances involving the timing for shopping for a new Apple computer couldn’t be more challenging. With the introduction of the 2018 iPad Pro 12.9, it has created a never-before-seen comparison model to the standard laptop. In fact, regarding the hardware, it’s not merely comparable, but dominating, based on benchmark scores, screen quality, touch interface, and form factor. So the SOLE drawback, is not being able to run MacOS. There is no doubt in my mind that the iPad Pro represents the future of mobile computing, and I’m positive that iOS 13 for the iPad, will be one more step forward in bridging the gap between iOS and MacOS. But there are just certain tasks, like configuring my home NAS, file directories, media server, etc., that either can’t be done on iOS, or just require too many workarounds to make it a pleasant experience. So, after an exhausting degree of research and internal debate, I made the tough decision to just stick with purchasing the $1800 13" MacBook Pro, as I could not hedge my bet that future software updates would make the iPad Pro everything that I need. Even though 90% of my day-to-day tasks could be handled by the iPad, I just couldn’t do without that remaining 10% MacOS functionality. ….then I happened to catch YOUR RUclips video, describing the Luna Display…..and to be completely honest, my brain IMPLODED🤯. My entire strategy changed instantly, due also in part to the recent update to the Mac Mini, which even with the base $799 configuration, surpasses the 2018 13” MacBook Pro benchmark Single-Core score, and is very comparable on the Multi-Core Score. It has the more powerful DDR4 SDRAM since it’s a desktop, and is pretty easy to upgrade. Before I got too excited, the next comparison came down to price: 2018 13” MacBook Pro with Touch Bar $1799 + Apple Care+ $269 = $2068 2018 12.9 iPad Pro 256GB $1149 + Apple Care+ $129 + 2018 Mac Mini $799 + IVSO Keyboard Folio case $50 = $2127 (I excluded the cost of the Apple Pencil in the direct cost comparison, since it’s not an accessory that can be utilized by the MacBook) Bottom line…this turned my decision from a challenge, to a no-brainer. The iPad Pro/Mac Mini Combo provides me the following advantages over the MacBook Pro: • Better Screen • Better Processor x(2) • Better battery life • Future Proofing • Better Portability • Touch Screen operability • All-in-one functionality in productivity, combining simultaneous iOS and MacOS operability on the same device • Apple Pencil support I cannot emphasize enough, that this is ALL credited to the Luna Display. I am currently typing this out on my my iPad’s connected keyboard in MacOS, while sitting outside on my patio, using a bluetooth mouse that is connected via USB to my MacMini sitting inside. This is the dream setup. In the immortal words from LOTR….“Even the smallest dongle can change the course of the future”.
For all you saying this is impractical it depends on what you are doing. If you dominantly want the iPad but have the occasional need for a “real” computer for certain functions, processing power, or certain desktop only programs this is a potentially logical set up. It is not just using the iPad as a monitor and not a tablet, it is allowing for the use of both in their proper situations. Is this for everyone? Definitely not. Will it work for some? Theoretically yes.
the iOS app Duet let's you do this as well with pretty much any somewhat recent ipad/iphone (with the cable that connects the ipad/iphone to the mac) it costs but does not require you to get any additional gadgets
DMZ500 I’m sure they will warm up to it, they can’t say no to the future of tech. It’s coming it’s just a matter of time and apple putting there own little twist on it.
OK. This is why i love touchscreen PCs. It is very intuitive and addictive. Many times I use combination, mouse, keyboard, pen, touch on a Microsoft Surface or touchscreen Allinone. :)
Seriously. I use one keyboard that connects to 3PCs running 3 different OSes with 2 displays each. And have been doing that for over a decade now. And this guy is bragging about running a vnc server over wifi. See: github.com/brahma-dev/synergy-stable-builds
So can Macs/ipads. There have been apps for YEARS that do this exact smae thing and even use a USB cable if you have iOS/Mac OSX otherwise they rely on wifi which as he said sucks for terrible LAtency. Look up Duet Display/iDisplay fore example apps.
Yeah I can't see how this weird dongle is supposed to be superior to a normal remote desktop connection. I literally have my workstation in another country and connect to it on my phone, laptop or iPad. The workstation is only hooked up to Ethernet and power and you can remote start it via WakeOnLan. Of course the sound comes out of the device connected to it remotely, not the workstation. You obviously don't have to be in the same WiFi, can be 4g, Ethernet, whatever
This is what Apple should have done from the start! I mean they even said the new iPads can replace your laptop/computer, but yet the iPads are using a mobile OS with limited functions comparing to computers/laptops. Apple should realise if they want iPads to replace people’s laptops/computers they need to have Mac OS on the iPad. Plus the top iPad model costs 1700 you can buy a gaming PC with good specs for that amount.
@@themedleb Nah Definitely PadOS, or just give the iPad a much different iOS experience, though it already has its own features, i don't think they need to call it a different os, just give the iPad more capabilities
but then why would you buy any of their laptops when you can buy a more sleek, cheaper, touch screen version? Its difficult for the iPad to become anything more than it is because it makes a lot of their baseline laptops obsolete. Way easier to just make money off laptops and then a separate touchscreen device :D
You're excited because it works well with this setup. Too much hastle for me as an Engineer. My macbook pro hooked up to a 4k monitor is still the best bet in terms of practicality. This setup is still dope though considering the 'coolness' factor.
Yeah the time is slowly coming where iOS on iPad needs to become PadOS because the software is now holding back the hardware in a ton of cases. Your video with Lumia Fusion made me realize that it needs its own OS or MacOS needs a huge overhaul to embrace touch because if developers care, they can pull a ton out of these machines and completely shake up the creative workflow
Amazing concept. Very nice to see us get a little sneak peak of what Apple might implement in the future. This really looks like the future of computing.
@@ginomendez9531 thanks 💕💕 the internet is really bad here and its so expensive on top of that. Being a middle class student in quarantine in the philippines is a struggle. Imagine how the lower class people are doing 😢😢 its sad.
Mac users to Windows: "Why would you need a touchscreen for your Windows laptop? Sounds like a useless idea" ** iPad Pro touchscreen Mac Mini video drops **
I remember trying to do this a few years ago with a similar app. It was HORRIBLE! This seems to be smooth as silk with a good connection. Looks, like I may try this type of set up again. (:
I think this setup is amazing but you can do this with an iMac or iMac pro as well if you already own one using VNC, the iPad would essentially just work as a portable touchscreen... when I’m away from home but need to work with MacOS applications I just connect to my desktop through the iPad (pretty much the same thing he’s doing in this video just another option) the only difference is you won’t have the trackpad/mouse which the touchscreen/Apple Pencil would be replacing
It is practical if someone would rather use a touchscreen interface with a stylus rather than a mouse, if that's what they want to do. Expensive, sure, but if someone has a Mac Mini and an iPad Pro already then why wouldnt they do this if the touchscreen better suits their work style?
ChrisJ Fox better buy a surface studio man !!!! The price of this setup will abandon it in seconds! Don’t defend this shittiest in the world and overexpensive setup
I disagree, this is a monitor and an iPad in one, also iPad has 600 nits of brightness and 120hz refresh rate. Wanna watch a show just unplug iPad from Mac mini and go watch show in bedroom. You could also hook up e gpu with 5700xt to Mac mini and boot camp into windows and do 120 FPS gaming. Need to go somewhere but need to be able to type then just unhook iPad and use Bluetooth keyboard for on the go experience.
so, technically the Luna display doesn't work on "pc's" yet.. but what if you're dual booting Windows, on a Mac? will it work if you start the dual display while booted into Mac, and then reboot into Windows..???
Define as best of both worlds. If one of them is portability, which is what the iPad is for, then it is taken away. You'll need the mac, cables, and a strong wlan.
I use the same kind of setup everyday only except I’m using Windows...a PC running 24/7 at home and I’ll use RDP with mobile LTE anywhere else. Works great actually.
For those seeing this video now five years after its release, Luna Display works on Windows, and supports wired connections via USB for even less lag than a wireless connection.
I can't believe you're calling the iPad a mere display. Not only could you use it outside it being just a display, the iPad's screen is better than most screens out there, 2k res, 120hz refresh rate, multi-touch screen + Apple pencil, something you couldn't use on a Mac before, even though a touchscreen Mac is worth it, you still have the full iOS experience as well, you literally the best of both worlds and an incredible mix of the two, this truly makes it the in-between device it should've been all along. So no, it's not just a display.
+Miguel Rodriguez I rather pay 1k for an iPad that already has an incredible screen and benefit from its many functions than to pay the same amount for a slightly larger display that has no other functions than being a mere display.
He states "...don't go out and buy and iPad just to use as a monitor for your mac mini". The video is just showcasing an interesting product that many might find useful if they already have both devices.
Yeah it’s cool that you can use Final Cut on it but really, you’re just using the iPad as a VERY expensive display. Will be exciting to see if the iPad gets a revised OS, I have a feeling that iOS 13 is going to be a bit of a game changer.
I bought this device based on what I saw in this video, and there is a drawback you don't mention. If you have a main monitor and want to mirror that display, the resolution must match on both devices, which is highly unlikely. So you will either end up with a weird looking ipad screen, or a weird looking monitor. The only solution is to mirror it at the ipad resolution and just plan on not using the other display (for example using in another room). Still debating on whether or not to keep it...
Well the power could easily be outdated. All the cores and processors inside the iPad could easily become obsolete in a few years. The guts of this thing arent user replacable. At least not very easily done by tech experts. Macs are easily accessible and upgradable. So you kind of get both worlds if you got money.
Assuming you're talking about this particular set up, it better not be the reason for buying an iPad. It's kind of like having powerful robots on their own that comes together and become Voltron when needed.
@@SVINT6 right. Though just being a display does not require much power. So having an octacore ultra blazing super fast could is useless in that use case. Although using a tablet as a Mac screen is useful, I won't go against that
I don't hate Jon, I love his videos but I can clearly see him biased towards Apple products even when it's not justified which from a reviewer point of view sucks.
Same, I think he could be a great reviewer if he took a more centered approach. Even AppleExplained criticizes Apple from time to time. With Jon I feel like there is an, "Apple can do no wrong," attitude. He doesn't review Apple products, he advertises them.
You don't need to say "sorry PC boys" coz there's nothing to be sorry about. PC users don't need this gimmick as Windows devices have this in-built. Sorry iPad Pro Boys as u have to go through this to achieve what the Surface Pro does natively.
What +Derek Jonez said. It almost seems like Jon doesn't understand what is happening. Nothing is running on the iPad except a screen mirror and input relay app. The only thing the ipad is doing is action like a monitor without speakers. Why wouldn't Final Cut Pro work? It doesn't really need a separate video.
@@RUclipsOwl I guess he wants to.see how smooth it runs. Hopefully he will run some benchmarks. I'm sure it all.comes.down to the iMac mini not the ipad but I guess it could be fun to watch. I hope so
this is not anything new or innovative. The mini is doing all the work, so MacOS is not on the ipad at all... in any way... I did this on an iphone 5C!!!! .. in 2014 !
Vnc has been around since the early 2000's. And remote desktop around that time too. I guess the earliest you could use this on a smartphone would be like around 2008. It's now... 2018. It's not exactly new stuff
Just tell us how much is apple paying you or how much are you invested in apple. At this point your channel is basically an unofficial advertisement channel for apple.
@@ArturKwaszyn Yeah I know but you have to understand that these guys are wowed by this because they want to use MacOS. I'm a Windows guy myself but this is like saying "This was already available in English" when some German dude is amazed he can use Windows 10 now :-)
@@robertp457 Yes. Even accepts touch input, the thing people have been asking for on Macintosh laptops for a while which is the direct comparison to a Surface laptop. Maybe watch the video.
If you want an actual computer with a full file browser and mouse support which also can work as a tablet get the Surface Pro/Go. iPad is a big iPhone.
I love the concept...and why Apple should just make a 2-in-1, running full Mac OS and call it a day. It sounds like what everybody wants...the touch screen and portability of the iPad Pro with the power of OS to run full programs...and I’m sure Apple would do a better job of making that happen than the Surface.
Yo 🙋🏻♂️ Just dropped a video on creating music on the iPad Pro! 🔥 ruclips.net/video/dItCj676GmA/видео.html
What’s up Jonathan! Are you still going to drop this monster IPad Pro review?
I guess not..
How well does this work with Sidecar? Any 2020 updates?
@JESUS is Real Have you got the solution?
iPad Mini + Apple Watch Ultra + Mac Mini (with Luna Display) = PERFECTION
Jonathan living in 2138...gonna be telling the boys “Just copped the new iMac pro mini!” 🖥👌
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To me what's really cool about this setup is that if you hide the Mac mini away, it almost seems like macOS is running as an App on the iPad. Pretty amazing.
You know how I’m envisioning this for my small apartment? I keep a Mac Mini at home, since I rarely use the computer anyway. For times I do need the computer I have access to one by pulling out my iPad! This way I can still do things like download files to flash drives.
Omg this setup will work great for me!!
If you’re going to go this route, there’s also a setting in MacOS to unlock with Apple Watch, rather than a password. It does require you to be very deep into the apple ecosystem, but there are some use cases where that might work for you. Great video, Jonathan!
I feel like Apple should just bring macOS to the iPad but magnified bigger so that you can tap things with your finger.
TheTechPerson Other option is to keep improving iOS for iPad like they have. iOS 12 on iPad is leaps and bounds better than iOS 4 on iPad 1. I think they will continue to this path.
The thing is that mac os is build to work only on x86 processor which is different than mobile processor architure ARM. Hance if you see a geekbench score you might see a12 is faster than the i7 or i5 but thats not the case they are not even comparable as their whole architure on which they are build is different.
And if apple wants to put macos on the ipad it simply wont work they would have to put in a x86 processor inside the tablet for it to work.
@@gitarthsonowal6703 Apple is rumored to planning on releasing their mobile macs on ARM as early as 2020
@@nadeemshaikh7863 do know about if thats true then that wont be macos cause x86 and arm are totally different api even if that is true it would be a stripped down version of macos i imagine
@@gitarthsonowal6703 let's see what happens
So.. essentially you’re just using the expensive iPad Pro as a small external display.
Not to mention you need an equally expensive Mac Mini/iMac/Macbook.
Yeah and the hidden folding technology of the ipad. It would be very sick
Tourean except it’s not running MacOS. The Mac mini is running MacOS. None of the iPads processing power is being used, as other people mentioned.
Why can’t you be positive?
Well, if you hook up the Mac Mini to the TV, you've got yourself an interesting remote control.
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Heh, the point was to have MacOS on iPad Hardware, not the other way around. BUT this is pretty neat regardless!
Damn a whole 1 year and still no comment and only 1 like on it lmao.
FINAL CUT ON THE IPAD I AM WEAK
You gotta try LumaFusion! It’s so close to FCPX on iPad!
iJustine Love your videos iJ, my favorite one is your original 300 page iPhone bill! Crazy how much technology has changed over time and you and other tech RUclipsrs have been the ones to tell us about tech.
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emmerghad I need an iPad Pro now
Congratulations on the dumbest comment of the day
Why on earth would you use fcpx on iPad
Definitely need to see you use Final Cut on the iPad Pro! Awesome video my dude!
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You can't... Too much money to spend for a 12 inch monitor...
Wtf is that icon next to your name?
Why? The iPad is just acting as a display. The only difference is the display will be very small.
Kinda cool, but the biggest thing is the power of the A12, which isn't even used here.
But the A12 doesn't do anything the A10 in the previous version couldn't do.
Derek Jonez wrong, a10x is slower than a12 in both cpu vs gpu...yes , not much but still lost...and with a12x is way way more powerful than a12...and a10x is way way more powerful than a10....a huge gap of difference there
A12x you mean, it’s much better than A12 in iPhones
@@meowzersy Yep, I know, just referencing the generation.
@@NamelessPassenger who tf fuck cares about thr power tho, as it is restricted to a bare bones os, the a10x and a12x are gonna perform alnost the same in ios, just like the iphone xs, even if it has the most powerful chip but app opening is still faster on the android will a worse chip, there's no point bragging about the power of the chip if it's not fully utilized
It looks great, and how you're using it really hits home how much better the iPad Pro experience would be with Mac OS. I think it's time for Apple to take iPad down the route of the Surface Pro. As a first gen iPad Pro owner who LOVES the device, the biggest thing holding it back is iOS. Either create a harmonized iOS/Mac OS hybrid solution, or bridge the gap entirely with Mac OS, and THEN we can talk about replacing our computers.
Broseph Stalin read my reply. I tested this years back and Mac OS do not give any extra production value used with touch compared to used with mouse or touch pad.
Let MacOS be used how it was designed and let iOS be used as it was designed
If you really want a touch screen for MacOS well buy a touch screen for your MacOS device. No need to get an iPad for that.
I’ve been doing this for years. I use an iPad Pro as a 3rd monitor (when needed), with the USB 3 connection of the 12.9” iPad Pro to my Mac Pro’s USB 3 card. All you need is the Duet Display app. It can mirror and use the Apple Pencil like a Wacom tablet, or it can be used as a 3rd separate desktop. It also places the MacBook’s Touch Bar on the iPad screen if you want it. It also works with Windows. I’m kinda missing the excitement of this video. Thought this was common knowledge. He’s not getting much use out of the A12x either, btw.
Programs and capacity of MacOs with the speed, haptic and gestures of iOS combined with an iPad ( Touch Display, Apple Pencil, Mouse, Keyboard, Storage)!!!
Apple should do this!
J‘s003 10_1 I swear I have a 11in pro with a portable usb c dongle a apple Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad. All I need is MacOS on it my old surface 3 died but it ran full windows and I could dock it to my tv.
That moment when Jonathan rips you a new one. Haha, definitely have to try this.
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Nah. Rather buy a Surface Pro or 28" Surface Studio than this expensive setup.
There should be an option to get an iPad Pro with MacOS or iOS installed.
Marcos Rodriguez it would have to be called the iPad Mac or the Mac mini Pro
That would make it into an Apple Surface, which is heresy beyond imagination.
I think they can't right now because of some type of deal with Intel, when (not if) they drop them I think we'll get to see MacOS for iPad
Why dont we asked for both...ios inside macos....come on, macos still limited to mac, and ios is limited to mobile device...with 2k bucks, we sure can asked for software tho...i am sure if apple do it, windows will lose a huge match...specially if valve support steam on macos probably
Apple is probaly working for years on mac for arm, with billions and billions.. the thing is that just isn't that simple.. 40 years of legacy software...
Even apple will be surprised
watch them make an update to stop the dongle from working LOL. Then miraculously in 2 years time it will be an app on iPad Pro by default "AppleCast".
Surprised because...
It was not meant to be blocked from being exploited?
Or that Apple feels ripped off...?
Nah. Rather buy a "touchscreen" Surface Pro or 28" Surface Studio than this expensive setup.
This has been around for 3yrs or more. You don’t just need internet connection to use it. By plugging the ipad with the mac will do it as well and its actually smoother that way
In its most simple discription it is a ‘Virtual Two-way KVM’. It reminds me alot of an application I used around 2009 that allowed a user to semesly switch the mouse and keyboard between multiple Mac computers.
It is also a misnomer to say ‘Mac OS is running on an iPad’. The respective OSes are still running on their respective HW.
Not belittling it, it is truly awsome and useful!
This man is living in 2100 😅😅
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I don’t understand the hype about this. He used an expensive iPad as a display and it’s not natively supported and relies on a solid WiFi network to support it. So it won’t work anywhere, but your house or a friends house or at work if your office has WiFi and then what extra functionality do you get for the $800-$1000? A touch screen and stylus? Have you seen the Surface Studio? Or any surface product? The $500 Surface go has a touch screen and can be connected to another display and one that costs substantially less than an iPad and Mac Mini together.
@@GarretWhiteee with that wonderful sdudio ,i pad, wallpaper screen on the wall...he just need to have a hologram screen and he is gonna be living like iron man
I love how good is the design of the iPad with that mobile display stand 👌🏼
so you have... a really small monitor that is touch screen? I'm not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be excited about. What did I miss?
This is for mac users who already own a mac device, not for nerd pc users
I didn't quite get it either, but after looking through the comment section, maybe the Final Cut Pro part is useful? Cuz I've heard ppl who did editing, it's far easier to have touchscreen sometimes when editing
Apple Pencil support and a full file system on the same device. That’s what you missed.
Touchscreen. It's a small screen compared to your average monitor but if someone has the Mini and the iPad already then *some people* are going to work better on a touchscreen than with a mouse.
@@alreadyusedname112" it's a cheap, high quality display."
Cheap!? You're paying as much as $1500 for that "display". You can get a better one for less than $400
See an iPad with MacOS is actually magical
Had dis for more than 4 years with My surface PRO... Apple is finally giving you tech that is old...
This is AWESOME!!!😍😍😍😍 And the music!👌🏼👌🏼
iTechAwan what is it called
Can’t wait to try this! Haven’t gotten mine yet.
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Danny Winget
I wish I had the money to buy things like Apple computers. >_<
Sadly the most I can buy with Apple is an iPhone every 2 or 3 years (give or take).
Hook the Mac Mini up to your TV and kickback and relax on the couch with your tablet.
this is a crazy expensive setup. just get a surface pro or studio. better choice.
Neat concept for sure, but it just doesn't seem that practical.
And the power of the iPad pro is never used, like what's the point of the A12, I could definitely buy a better display ways cheaper.
It is pretty practical. But as people said before. It’s not really anything with the iPad Pro. It’s just iPad Pro “loaning” is screen nothing else.
@@mr.anonymous3103 Its still an Ipad . You can move it.
@BTICronox yup
@@cang559 what about the wi-fi? bring router everywhere?
I enjoy your video’s. Have you ever tried using a utility like Jump Desktop. It allowed me to only carry around an iPad Pro for the last year and half to do all my work. Whenever, I need to do something that I can’t do natively on IOS (or is less efficient), I’ll use jump which allows me to connect and mirror, much like Luna display, although you don’t have to be on the same wireless, just being able to connect to your network or PC or Mac. FYI, keep up the good work and happy holidays!
I wish there was a more practical version of this as a product. iOS isn't ready to replace the desktop yet but it would be really nice to have a fully mobile mac desktop experience blended with the touch/pencil functionality of the iPad.
That's one hell of an expensive display.
Haha it sure is. That display also benchmarks ludicrously high on Geekbench #nobigdeal
@@matthewsjardine You do realize none of that processing power is being used on this setup, right?
But the display is portable and can be used on the go. Do some light work at a coffee shop, then return to the mini for the rest. Mobility and portability. Better than buying a mac pro or desktop.
Any iPad even the older ones can be used via something like iDisplay or Duet Display to get the exact same setup over either USB or wifi.
@@Montisaquadeis -True. I use an old CPU with my flat screen Tv. But I think the issue was that that new iPad USB-c turned out useless, ex. hard rive. Maybe we are trying too hard to make the new iPad work ..when we should be bashing Apple for their useless "large screen iOS phone."
I love it how he says "This is only for macbook, sorry Pc boys" even tho windows introduced this wireless-display feature years ago. Lol
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Jonathan Morrison when is the giveaway? ❤️
Have you heard of duet? Its like the same thing but wired
There are apps for doing this exact thing. Such as Duet Display or iDisplay. They work over USB a whole lot better than wifi. For anyone who has a ipad+mac of some sort weither its a mini or type of macbook. Just stay clear of such apps if your on Android/Windows tho as those are forced to use wifi and the latency sucks MAJORLY. You litterally have to drop them to the lowest resolution and picture quality to the vbare minimun just to get usable latency out of them and then the picture is just a blocky mess. Anything higher and the latency is litterally secs and just unusable.
Jonathan Morrison when is the iPhone XR giveaway
My point being this is NOTHING new and has been around for LITERAL YEARS no special dongle needed if you just use the USB/Lightning cable that came with your iPad.
My 10-year-old MacBook Pro finally needed to be replaced, and in my opinion, the circumstances involving the timing for shopping for a new Apple computer couldn’t be more challenging.
With the introduction of the 2018 iPad Pro 12.9, it has created a never-before-seen comparison model to the standard laptop. In fact, regarding the hardware, it’s not merely comparable, but dominating, based on benchmark scores, screen quality, touch interface, and form factor. So the SOLE drawback, is not being able to run MacOS. There is no doubt in my mind that the iPad Pro represents the future of mobile computing, and I’m positive that iOS 13 for the iPad, will be one more step forward in bridging the gap between iOS and MacOS. But there are just certain tasks, like configuring my home NAS, file directories, media server, etc., that either can’t be done on iOS, or just require too many workarounds to make it a pleasant experience.
So, after an exhausting degree of research and internal debate, I made the tough decision to just stick with purchasing the $1800 13" MacBook Pro, as I could not hedge my bet that future software updates would make the iPad Pro everything that I need. Even though 90% of my day-to-day tasks could be handled by the iPad, I just couldn’t do without that remaining 10% MacOS functionality.
….then I happened to catch YOUR RUclips video, describing the Luna Display…..and to be completely honest, my brain IMPLODED🤯.
My entire strategy changed instantly, due also in part to the recent update to the Mac Mini, which even with the base $799 configuration, surpasses the 2018 13” MacBook Pro benchmark Single-Core score, and is very comparable on the Multi-Core Score. It has the more powerful DDR4 SDRAM since it’s a desktop, and is pretty easy to upgrade.
Before I got too excited, the next comparison came down to price:
2018 13” MacBook Pro with Touch Bar $1799
+ Apple Care+ $269
= $2068
2018 12.9 iPad Pro 256GB $1149
+ Apple Care+ $129
+ 2018 Mac Mini $799
+ IVSO Keyboard Folio case $50
= $2127
(I excluded the cost of the Apple Pencil in the direct cost comparison, since it’s not an accessory that can be utilized by the MacBook)
Bottom line…this turned my decision from a challenge, to a no-brainer.
The iPad Pro/Mac Mini Combo provides me the following advantages over the MacBook Pro:
• Better Screen
• Better Processor x(2)
• Better battery life
• Future Proofing
• Better Portability
• Touch Screen operability
• All-in-one functionality in productivity, combining simultaneous iOS and MacOS operability on the same device
• Apple Pencil support
I cannot emphasize enough, that this is ALL credited to the Luna Display. I am currently typing this out on my my iPad’s connected keyboard in MacOS, while sitting outside on my patio, using a bluetooth mouse that is connected via USB to my MacMini sitting inside. This is the dream setup. In the immortal words from LOTR….“Even the smallest dongle can change the course of the future”.
For all you saying this is impractical it depends on what you are doing. If you dominantly want the iPad but have the occasional need for a “real” computer for certain functions, processing power, or certain desktop only programs this is a potentially logical set up. It is not just using the iPad as a monitor and not a tablet, it is allowing for the use of both in their proper situations. Is this for everyone? Definitely not. Will it work for some? Theoretically yes.
the iOS app Duet let's you do this as well with pretty much any somewhat recent ipad/iphone (with the cable that connects the ipad/iphone to the mac) it costs but does not require you to get any additional gadgets
macOS would be amazing on iPads. Apple you must do this!
Wilson Silva
Then it would just be a laptop with no keyboard and apple does not like touchscreen laptops
Wilson Silva just buy a galaxy tab s6, it has Samsung dex and mouse support
Startingbark 035 don’t like Android I can’t seem to have a good experience from them. Apple does everything I want perfectly with no extra hassle.
DMZ500 I’m sure they will warm up to it, they can’t say no to the future of tech. It’s coming it’s just a matter of time and apple putting there own little twist on it.
iPad os
This is awesome! Still waiting on that full iPad Pro video!
OK. This is why i love touchscreen PCs. It is very intuitive and addictive. Many times I use combination, mouse, keyboard, pen, touch on a Microsoft Surface or touchscreen Allinone. :)
Prime content Johnathan. We need you back.
lol "pc boys" can actually do it without that expensive dongle XD
Özün Çağan Altun and It works with Mac os
Seriously. I use one keyboard that connects to 3PCs running 3 different OSes with 2 displays each. And have been doing that for over a decade now. And this guy is bragging about running a vnc server over wifi.
See: github.com/brahma-dev/synergy-stable-builds
So can Macs/ipads. There have been apps for YEARS that do this exact smae thing and even use a USB cable if you have iOS/Mac OSX otherwise they rely on wifi which as he said sucks for terrible LAtency. Look up Duet Display/iDisplay fore example apps.
Term in a tor a decade!? I know it is a joke but, i that is too far buddy since, 2008 still limited in software...
Yeah I can't see how this weird dongle is supposed to be superior to a normal remote desktop connection. I literally have my workstation in another country and connect to it on my phone, laptop or iPad. The workstation is only hooked up to Ethernet and power and you can remote start it via WakeOnLan. Of course the sound comes out of the device connected to it remotely, not the workstation. You obviously don't have to be in the same WiFi, can be 4g, Ethernet, whatever
This is what Apple should have done from the start! I mean they even said the new iPads can replace your laptop/computer, but yet the iPads are using a mobile OS with limited functions comparing to computers/laptops. Apple should realise if they want iPads to replace people’s laptops/computers they need to have Mac OS on the iPad. Plus the top iPad model costs 1700 you can buy a gaming PC with good specs for that amount.
Harpreet Sanghera and still too much apps are not optimized for iPad
Apple should merge MacOS and iOS together and call it iPadOS!
Or iMacOS
@@themedleb Nah Definitely PadOS, or just give the iPad a much different iOS experience, though it already has its own features, i don't think they need to call it a different os, just give the iPad more capabilities
Yeah, but you'll need a lot more RAM, 2 Gig is not enough.
+Tommy Andrews The iPad has 6.
but then why would you buy any of their laptops when you can buy a more sleek, cheaper, touch screen version? Its difficult for the iPad to become anything more than it is because it makes a lot of their baseline laptops obsolete. Way easier to just make money off laptops and then a separate touchscreen device :D
You're excited because it works well with this setup. Too much hastle for me as an Engineer. My macbook pro hooked up to a 4k monitor is still the best bet in terms of practicality. This setup is still dope though considering the 'coolness' factor.
Yeah the time is slowly coming where iOS on iPad needs to become PadOS because the software is now holding back the hardware in a ton of cases. Your video with Lumia Fusion made me realize that it needs its own OS or MacOS needs a huge overhaul to embrace touch because if developers care, they can pull a ton out of these machines and completely shake up the creative workflow
Is mkhd still sleeping☝️🙏
probably trying to fix his car
Probably!
His car is wrecked there is no way he is sleeping tonight.
Uhhh *MKBHD
Jamison Donoho thank you! That misspelling was annoying me, too. MKBHD says his name in nearly every video how could anyone get it wrong?
Amazing concept. Very nice to see us get a little sneak peak of what Apple might implement in the future. This really looks like the future of computing.
jon: you have to have good wifi connection
me, from the Philippines: okay bye!
Omg Mr beast needs to start a foundation to get WiFi to you guys! Y'all are so kind and y'all deserve it!
@@ginomendez9531 thanks 💕💕 the internet is really bad here and its so expensive on top of that. Being a middle class student in quarantine in the philippines is a struggle. Imagine how the lower class people are doing 😢😢 its sad.
@@lexie2382 use fiber for only one device.
@@lexie2382 and netgear triband
Bro, this guy still makes original content
Too little. Too late. Already bought a black Surface Pro 6....It looks FANTASTIC esp when plugged into my 32" Samsung 4K Monitor...
Mac users to Windows: "Why would you need a touchscreen for your Windows laptop? Sounds like a useless idea"
** iPad Pro touchscreen Mac Mini video drops **
Another banger of a video. Great work Johnathon 😀
Tyler Melbourne-smith 🙌🏼
I remember trying to do this a few years ago with a similar app. It was HORRIBLE! This seems to be smooth as silk with a good connection. Looks, like I may try this type of set up again. (:
I think this setup is amazing but you can do this with an iMac or iMac pro as well if you already own one using VNC, the iPad would essentially just work as a portable touchscreen... when I’m away from home but need to work with MacOS applications I just connect to my desktop through the iPad (pretty much the same thing he’s doing in this video just another option) the only difference is you won’t have the trackpad/mouse which the touchscreen/Apple Pencil would be replacing
if only there was a product that was a tablet AND a full pc with pen support. A man can dream.
iPad Pro + Mac Mini = 🔥
HOPING TO WIN THE MACBOOK AIR 2018 SPACEGREY OR GOLD! 🖤💛
Introducing MACPad! The future of apple 😅😇
Looking forward into it tbh 😂😂
There’s also an app called Duet display that works really well for extending a MacBook or windows display to an iPad Pro.
Robert Girdner you got it from unbox therapy didn't u
IP Proxy bro why do you think that you can just find it your self
Pretty cool setup... just using the lightning cable (duet display) is a lot more reliable and versatile than over wifi
Please remake this with the new mac mini and ipad pros woaaa thatd a solid experience!!!
It just looks cool and all, not practical at all
Unpractical and expensive.
Nah. Rather buy a Surface Pro or 28" Surface Studio than this expensive setup.
It is practical if someone would rather use a touchscreen interface with a stylus rather than a mouse, if that's what they want to do. Expensive, sure, but if someone has a Mac Mini and an iPad Pro already then why wouldnt they do this if the touchscreen better suits their work style?
ChrisJ Fox better buy a surface studio man !!!! The price of this setup will abandon it in seconds! Don’t defend this shittiest in the world and overexpensive setup
I disagree, this is a monitor and an iPad in one, also iPad has 600 nits of brightness and 120hz refresh rate. Wanna watch a show just unplug iPad from Mac mini and go watch show in bedroom. You could also hook up e gpu with 5700xt to Mac mini and boot camp into windows and do 120 FPS gaming. Need to go somewhere but need to be able to type then just unhook iPad and use Bluetooth keyboard for on the go experience.
so, technically the Luna display doesn't work on "pc's" yet.. but what if you're dual booting Windows, on a Mac? will it work if you start the dual display while booted into Mac, and then reboot into Windows..???
darbs brown I don’t think it works that’s way, when you dual boot from boot camp you are running independently from macOS
That will almost be feasible with sidecar in September
Yes
This is a neat setup. Best of both worlds. I'd buy both devices just to build this setup. Thanks for sharing Jon!
Define as best of both worlds. If one of them is portability, which is what the iPad is for, then it is taken away. You'll need the mac, cables, and a strong wlan.
Dude, you should check the Surface Studio. It's kind of what you've emulated, but in a professional fashion
Bit of a stretch but great to know the possibilities.
Ok....now if Apple just put the same OS in the iPad....there ya go
What if people want iOS instead of macOS?
Wait. Apple should give people the choice of iOS and macOS.
Drops mic
"So Cold" by Static X playing at the end? NIIICE :)
I'm still obsessed with the song destroyer
I use the same kind of setup everyday only except I’m using Windows...a PC running 24/7 at home and I’ll use RDP with mobile LTE anywhere else. Works great actually.
This is so amazing! I'm surprised Apple doesn't do something like this. I know it basically undercuts their MacBooks, but it's just so cool!
Hey, they stole your idea
How can anyone get surprised? Team viewer and many other remote desktop app have been around for years. This is just it in a better packaging
What did you expect from apple users...
You’re one of my favourite youtubers. I aspire to make content as good as yours. Can’t wait for the next video :)
Andy-K 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This video is amazing amazing amazing
Edward Sanchez Productions 😂😂😂
i think that jonathan Morrison is hands down the best youtuber out there. Like my videos arent even close to the quality........mostly the mic
For those seeing this video now five years after its release, Luna Display works on Windows, and supports wired connections via USB for even less lag than a wireless connection.
So basically pay 1,000$ for an 11 inch display? This is stupid! Lol
I can't believe you're calling the iPad a mere display.
Not only could you use it outside it being just a display, the iPad's screen is better than most screens out there, 2k res, 120hz refresh rate, multi-touch screen + Apple pencil, something you couldn't use on a Mac before, even though a touchscreen Mac is worth it, you still have the full iOS experience as well, you literally the best of both worlds and an incredible mix of the two, this truly makes it the in-between device it should've been all along.
So no, it's not just a display.
RealSupaHotFireVEVO I own an iPad I simply don’t see a need of this might just buy a better display for 1,000
+Miguel Rodriguez I rather pay 1k for an iPad that already has an incredible screen and benefit from its many functions than to pay the same amount for a slightly larger display that has no other functions than being a mere display.
He states "...don't go out and buy and iPad just to use as a monitor for your mac mini". The video is just showcasing an interesting product that many might find useful if they already have both devices.
@@RealSupaHotFireVEVO MacOS doesn't have touch functionality the pen is just emulating a mouse.
Using the pro as a glorified wireless touchscreen screen? C’mon!
Your comprehension is severely lacking
@@NineteenEightyFive / umm.
So basically an iPad that is streaming your iMac screen at the worst refresh rate possible, nice!
Yeah it’s cool that you can use Final Cut on it but really, you’re just using the iPad as a VERY expensive display. Will be exciting to see if the iPad gets a revised OS, I have a feeling that iOS 13 is going to be a bit of a game changer.
I bought this device based on what I saw in this video, and there is a drawback you don't mention. If you have a main monitor and want to mirror that display, the resolution must match on both devices, which is highly unlikely. So you will either end up with a weird looking ipad screen, or a weird looking monitor. The only solution is to mirror it at the ipad resolution and just plan on not using the other display (for example using in another room). Still debating on whether or not to keep it...
what's the point of having so much power in the ipad if you don't use it
Well the power could easily be outdated. All the cores and processors inside the iPad could easily become obsolete in a few years. The guts of this thing arent user replacable. At least not very easily done by tech experts. Macs are easily accessible and upgradable. So you kind of get both worlds if you got money.
Bullets InYoPP does it really have that much power since it doesn’t actually do anything the iPad Pro before it couldn’t do?
Assuming you're talking about this particular set up, it better not be the reason for buying an iPad. It's kind of like having powerful robots on their own that comes together and become Voltron when needed.
Why are you so dense?
@@SVINT6 right. Though just being a display does not require much power. So having an octacore ultra blazing super fast could is useless in that use case. Although using a tablet as a Mac screen is useful, I won't go against that
I don't hate Jon, I love his videos but I can clearly see him biased towards Apple products even when it's not justified which from a reviewer point of view sucks.
I couldn't imagine he could be any more biased.
He's on full fanboi mode since Xr and ipad pro release
Same, I think he could be a great reviewer if he took a more centered approach. Even AppleExplained criticizes Apple from time to time. With Jon I feel like there is an, "Apple can do no wrong," attitude. He doesn't review Apple products, he advertises them.
I really want macOS to be installed on iPad pros.
Now macOS is like iPadOS
Just buy DUET app and you can Mirror/extend your screen to your iPad Pro, it works with Microsoft as well MacOS.
It would be totally sick and awesome if Apple makes this feature native to MAC OS, especially on the MAC Mini!!!
You don't need to say "sorry PC boys" coz there's nothing to be sorry about. PC users don't need this gimmick as Windows devices have this in-built. Sorry iPad Pro Boys as u have to go through this to achieve what the Surface Pro does natively.
Or surface book, or surface laptop, or surface studio... Or even the surface go. Wow there's a lot of surface.
I have the Surface Pro at work and the new iPad Pro 12.9" at home. I love both and wouldn't live without either.
Google is the future. Screw those other 2 guys.
sammy's epic beyblade channel it does not have ios and their exclusive apps so sorry anyway
Ajn Odum Google sucks just like Apple
Please do. Final cut pro on iPad?. THE world is coming to an end. Oh my my ! Please make that video
A Family of 5 it’s not Final Cut Pro on an iPad its Final Cut Pro displayed on an iPad and run from a Mac Mini.
What +Derek Jonez said. It almost seems like Jon doesn't understand what is happening. Nothing is running on the iPad except a screen mirror and input relay app. The only thing the ipad is doing is action like a monitor without speakers. Why wouldn't Final Cut Pro work? It doesn't really need a separate video.
@@RUclipsOwl I guess he wants to.see how smooth it runs. Hopefully he will run some benchmarks. I'm sure it all.comes.down to the iMac mini not the ipad but I guess it could be fun to watch. I hope so
@@FamilyofTech I guess there already are some benchmarks for Final Cut on the mac mini, to much hype in this video.
@@ytabil haha. Thanks
Apple watches this video
In 2019: "Here is macOS on the iPad Pro!"
Here's sidecar
These videos are perfect for things I may never use in my life but definitely something I love to see
Interesting. Was considering the new Mac mini, already have an iPad Pro, seems to be a pretty solid setup for me. Thanks!!
this is not anything new or innovative. The mini is doing all the work, so MacOS is not on the ipad at all... in any way... I did this on an iphone 5C!!!! .. in 2014 !
it does make the mac touch screen... so I'll give you that. But Duet and Air Display have been doing this for like ever....
Vnc has been around since the early 2000's. And remote desktop around that time too. I guess the earliest you could use this on a smartphone would be like around 2008. It's now... 2018. It's not exactly new stuff
E Kirchman Mac OS High Sierra on a iPhone 3G ? Cool
I will never stop loving the memes Jonathan!
Stew can’t help it lol
The iPad Pro is so close to the ultimate tablet. I think there holding back to much
WOW taking ALL these steps to get an experience you can get with a basic Windows Touch Laptop!!
You can use the ipad pro as a secondary screen and mirror screen with the macbook... but for the mac mini, this adapter is awesome!!!
That Static-X clip at the end. 🤙🏽✌🏽
Cold we’re so cold 🥶
Just tell us how much is apple paying you or how much are you invested in apple. At this point your channel is basically an unofficial advertisement channel for apple.
So, basically, you're hyped and say that it's, quote, magic, while Surface had it a couple of years earlier? Yeah, well, good job.
Does the Surface run MacOS?
@@SebastianPeitsch no, it runs Windows 10, and that's a huge benefit for most of the users. :)
@@ArturKwaszyn Yeah I know but you have to understand that these guys are wowed by this because they want to use MacOS.
I'm a Windows guy myself but this is like saying "This was already available in English" when some German dude is amazed he can use Windows 10 now :-)
@@SebastianPeitsch "Does the Surface run MacOS? " Does the iPad?
@@robertp457 Yes. Even accepts touch input, the thing people have been asking for on Macintosh laptops for a while which is the direct comparison to a Surface laptop. Maybe watch the video.
If you want an actual computer with a full file browser and mouse support which also can work as a tablet get the Surface Pro/Go. iPad is a big iPhone.
I love the concept...and why Apple should just make a 2-in-1, running full Mac OS and call it a day. It sounds like what everybody wants...the touch screen and portability of the iPad Pro with the power of OS to run full programs...and I’m sure Apple would do a better job of making that happen than the Surface.