If you're wondering why I only have RX 7700 XT results in this video and none for the RX 7800 XT, it's because I was only sent the 7700XT to test and review for before embargo. Regarding my choice of side by side comparisons with other cards, I chose the 6700XT because I like to show generation-to-generation performance uplifts for the same tier cards. On Nvidia's side, I chose the 4060 Ti because they (both the 8GB and 16GB) the direct current gen competition at it's price point, I only tested the 8GB model because the 16GB model's performance in most games are within single digit % differences. I wanted to include the RTX 4070 in this comparison because traditionally the RX -700XT cards competed head to head with the RTX --70 cards.
Maybe the 4060 Ti crashed in Hogwarts Legacy because of insufficient VRAM? My friend with a 3060 Ti also experiences crashes when enabling RT in 1440p.
I wanted to note that the 3070 competed with the RX 6800 at launch (and the RX 6800 was $50 dollars cheaper than the 3070 at launch). After the 6800 showed that it wiped the floor with the 3070, NV came out with the 3070 Ti model afterwards. The 6700XT competed with the 3060 ti from the get go.
I personally have been eyeing the 7800xt since Price compared to the competition looks like a larger bang for my buck. Also I am a stickler for larger bus and can't see spending $400+ for a card with less than a 256-bit bus, that is my bottom - now for something $399- I will consider 192-bit.
Really good! Straight to the point and raster performance comparison and information on the starting screen was incredibly helpful too, wanted to know if SAM and Rebar was enabled or not, and it was right on the starting screen! AMAZING!
Any nerd on a budget can clearly see how this makes the RX 6700XT shine! Especially when picking it up used! I'm sure I'll see a video by Danny, where he's getting that card for $200, like he did when the GTX 1070 had been out for only a little while, and he was shaking with nervousness getting the money for that adventure!
That GTX 1070 was such an OG pick up, and still remains one of the best pickups I've had. Maybe not from a "how much money was saved vs how much it would have cost normally or new" but from a holy crap, the GTX 1070 released only 9 months prior to that point at an MSRP of $380, and for me to get it at $200 just felt amazing!
The results are pretty much what I expected, though I was a bit surprised at how often it was fairly close to the 4070 and even though it lost most of the time, there were also a few times when the 1% lows were actually better at least as an %. It's a shame this card will be overlooked (most likely) because of the 7800xt only being $50 more. It's not a bad increase in performance over the 6700xt, but not so drastic that you need to go and upgrade if you already have the 6700xt...and if you're on a budget, it also makes more sense to just buy the 6700xt because it's about $120 less right now...or a 6750xt for like $80 less...If only AMD had priced the new card about $50 lower it would have made more sense. Still, not bad compared to the NVIDIA options and even still a decent improvement over last gen with some added features (AV1 with more features on the way...eventually).
@@notwhatitwasbefore 70€ in europe tho, if Im not mistaken. Thats quite the difference for me at least, since I live in Portugal where 70€ is more than 10% of the minimum wage, and probably around 8% of the average wage here. In the US I dont see the point in buying the 7700xt tho, yeah
Man, I have an RTX 3070, and I don't care anything about ray tracing. It might be cool down the road, but right now it just tanks performance so much no matter what the card is. I might hop to the red team in the future.
After seeing how so many reviewers slated the 7700 xt I ordered one anyway because in my region it was all I could afford while still being way above what I consider a good price. I've got a 5600x, so not expecting miracles (also at 1080p for now), but if the 1% lows are anything to go by this card will be good for quite a while into the future. Thanks for the video man. Just found the channel and I appreciate the realistic content.
The Rx 7700XT sits well between the Rx 6750XT and Rx 6800 but often is on the Rx 6800 level and honestly it seems like a ok upgrade from last gen but the price is a lil odd but id still pick it up and seeing how history will repeat itself the 7700xt will be a forgotten card
I just ordered a 4060ti and that is after seeing the initial impressions of the rx 7700xt (and 7800). Almost all review are about the 1440p performance for the price. HOWEVER, for me its about the size of my case/cooling and power consumption. I want to keep my power supply under 550w, and do not want an oversized case and/or cooling problems. Basically that is my criteria and I want the best performance to fit that criteria. The 4060ti is clearly the best option for what I want/need.
@@SwingArmCity You either don't read or you just aren't very smart. Tell me what card would be better for the situation I described in my post? No, let me answer for me. None would. But I hope your post gave you the mental victory lap your ego must so need to support your point of view that you don't like the card that does the job I need the best of any available card for me.
@@SwingArmCity I see once again you absolutely have to post without answering the question. What would be a better card to use if your entire system has to stay at 500 to 550 w or under... And you are just looking for the best bang for the buck and best performance for that power requirement? Oh, you are already too deep into making your stupid comments so you can't actually answer the question.
Good video. You either have an ultra rare golden sample or the 4000mt/s ram is hurting your performance, you want to keep the infinity fabric to memory 1:1. Anything above 3733mt/s and the ration goes to 2:1 on the vast majority of AM4 cpu's. I've seen 3800nt/s work at 1:1 but never any higher.
In my experience 1:1 4000mt/s works best with 2 sticks on AM4, I had to bump down to 1:1 3800mt/s to have 32GB of RAM with 4 sticks. At the end of the day the performance uplift is probably super marginal anyway.
Talk to us. A little narration would be appreciated. There are plenty of channels that do this type of video. I subscribe to your channel instead, because I like your narrative style.
Yea sorry about that, originally I planned to release a standard review during embargo, but less than 24 hrs ago I found out that all of my data was bad due to my test bench configuration and had to retest EVERYTHING at the last moment. That resulted in me pulling an all nighter to get the testing redone as well as re-edited to release on embargo morning, I plan to discuss the cards on tonight's stream as well as in a future video, but wanted to get the benchmarks out for people who like the numbers since most of the other channels only show charts and numbers and not actual gameplay with metric overlays
@@nerdonabudget I was looking at the 6700xt because the next best the which was the 3070 just didn’t provide enough performance to justify the price difference. But the 7700xt looks pretty compelling for only 100 dollars more idk might return mine I gotta think about it
its a cut down 3060ti and performs like it while sipping 50-70 watts less making it a choice for new nvidia fan boys but completly usless for people who have 3060ti and dont use nvidias dlss. tldr dotn buy it, if you only game rn you sould not go near nvidia unless you get a deal for thoose cards. +8gb vram is a handcuff, in so many games i have to turn down settings while the card has the power, you gte stutters cause of that, so imma switch to amd. + new consoles all use 10 gb vram + so you can expect that to be the minimum.
@@lastnamechico I'm looking for upgrade from 3060 for competitive fps games at 1080p. I have 5800x3d and 360hz 1080p monitor. My main purposes are solid 300 fps on apex legends and decent fps on warzone 2,both are competitive settings. That's why I'd like to see 1080p benchmarks. Is 7700xt enough for these or should I buy 7800xt? Or do you recommend any other card?
@@CandanceTR Hmmm... The 7800 XT is about 15% faster because of the VRAM bandwidth (256 bit vs 192 bit) and has more CUs, than the 7700 XT. But you can search for it. ;)
Why are the AMD 7000s drain so much power? Same with 7600. +20% fps compared to 6600 but 50-70% more power consumption. I mean i Europe the electricity bills sky rocket.
I Would wait and see what FSR 3.0 has to offer, RX 6800 is a hell of a good card, depending on the results it can last you one more generation (AKA 8000 series AMD and 5000 NVIDIA) series before needing to be replaced. I have a 6700xt and depending on the results of the said FSR 3.0 i will also wait to upgrade.
@@diegolopes7849 Why wait for FSR 3.0? No matter the case, the relative performance will remain the same. The 7800XT is clearly the better upgrade at the moment for someone looking at that price range. Anyone who can afford 450, should be able to afford 500. Specially when the 7800XT appears to be around 20/25% faster for just 11% more money. Same applies to the 6800 and 6800XT.
Really poor performance for 7700xt considering per Watt. 4070 does a way better job with that on similar price plus a far better RT performance. AMD is in a tough spot with 7700xt. I think 7800xt makes more sense. Also both Nvidia and AMD underperform this generation with overpriced crap cards with not that much of a big leap as they promised versus previous generation. This is a mess really.
If you're wondering why I only have RX 7700 XT results in this video and none for the RX 7800 XT, it's because I was only sent the 7700XT to test and review for before embargo. Regarding my choice of side by side comparisons with other cards, I chose the 6700XT because I like to show generation-to-generation performance uplifts for the same tier cards. On Nvidia's side, I chose the 4060 Ti because they (both the 8GB and 16GB) the direct current gen competition at it's price point, I only tested the 8GB model because the 16GB model's performance in most games are within single digit % differences. I wanted to include the RTX 4070 in this comparison because traditionally the RX -700XT cards competed head to head with the RTX --70 cards.
Maybe the 4060 Ti crashed in Hogwarts Legacy because of insufficient VRAM? My friend with a 3060 Ti also experiences crashes when enabling RT in 1440p.
Good video. The 7700xt seems like a great card.. The problem is the 7800xt is only $50 more.
I wanted to note that the 3070 competed with the RX 6800 at launch (and the RX 6800 was $50 dollars cheaper than the 3070 at launch). After the 6800 showed that it wiped the floor with the 3070, NV came out with the 3070 Ti model afterwards. The 6700XT competed with the 3060 ti from the get go.
I personally have been eyeing the 7800xt since Price compared to the competition looks like a larger bang for my buck. Also I am a stickler for larger bus and can't see spending $400+ for a card with less than a 256-bit bus, that is my bottom - now for something $399- I will consider 192-bit.
Really good! Straight to the point and raster performance comparison and information on the starting screen was incredibly helpful too, wanted to know if SAM and Rebar was enabled or not, and it was right on the starting screen! AMAZING!
Any nerd on a budget can clearly see how this makes the RX 6700XT shine! Especially when picking it up used! I'm sure I'll see a video by Danny, where he's getting that card for $200, like he did when the GTX 1070 had been out for only a little while, and he was shaking with nervousness getting the money for that adventure!
That GTX 1070 was such an OG pick up, and still remains one of the best pickups I've had. Maybe not from a "how much money was saved vs how much it would have cost normally or new" but from a holy crap, the GTX 1070 released only 9 months prior to that point at an MSRP of $380, and for me to get it at $200 just felt amazing!
I just got a hellhound rx6700xt used for $187usd! Steal of my life, the seller kept it in great condition and it's running great.
@@JosephC9 Considering the performance of that card, that's the steal of the century!
I sold my 1070 ti for 170$ and bought a used rx 6700 xt msi mech x2 oc for 200$. I can say that I'm very proud of my acquisition 👍
I just sold my 1070 for £80 and bought a brand new 6700xt for £230. It's my first AMD card, and I can't fault it.
The results are pretty much what I expected, though I was a bit surprised at how often it was fairly close to the 4070 and even though it lost most of the time, there were also a few times when the 1% lows were actually better at least as an %. It's a shame this card will be overlooked (most likely) because of the 7800xt only being $50 more. It's not a bad increase in performance over the 6700xt, but not so drastic that you need to go and upgrade if you already have the 6700xt...and if you're on a budget, it also makes more sense to just buy the 6700xt because it's about $120 less right now...or a 6750xt for like $80 less...If only AMD had priced the new card about $50 lower it would have made more sense. Still, not bad compared to the NVIDIA options and even still a decent improvement over last gen with some added features (AV1 with more features on the way...eventually).
I just got one for 860aud and I'm upgrading from my 3060
4070 is a shit card...its only 6 to 8 % faster than a 3070
@@johnyseimah229 you mean 3080?
7700 XT looks really good.
look at those temperatures too
7800xt smashes it for only 50 bucks extra.
@@notwhatitwasbefore 70€ in europe tho, if Im not mistaken. Thats quite the difference for me at least, since I live in Portugal where 70€ is more than 10% of the minimum wage, and probably around 8% of the average wage here. In the US I dont see the point in buying the 7700xt tho, yeah
What card is he using? which brand ?
Not for initial price of 450$. It's an upsaler for 7800XT right now.
Man, I have an RTX 3070, and I don't care anything about ray tracing. It might be cool down the road, but right now it just tanks performance so much no matter what the card is. I might hop to the red team in the future.
Get rx 6950 xt instead, 3090 level performance
After seeing how so many reviewers slated the 7700 xt I ordered one anyway because in my region it was all I could afford while still being way above what I consider a good price. I've got a 5600x, so not expecting miracles (also at 1080p for now), but if the 1% lows are anything to go by this card will be good for quite a while into the future. Thanks for the video man. Just found the channel and I appreciate the realistic content.
The Rx 7700XT sits well between the Rx 6750XT and Rx 6800 but often is on the Rx 6800 level and honestly it seems like a ok upgrade from last gen but the price is a lil odd but id still pick it up and seeing how history will repeat itself the 7700xt will be a forgotten card
Thanks for the video. Very informative. Cheers! 😃🙌🏽
Best side by side comparisons I've seen! Continue!
Make the gpu font a little bigger , that’s it good bud comparison nvidia leading the pack with amd 15 to 30% behind but catching up with chip quality
that 7700xt botta be crazy on second hand market
Man Starfield's optimization really is dogshit huh? Thx for this video, 7700XT looks like a really nice upgrade from my 2070S.
I just ordered a 4060ti and that is after seeing the initial impressions of the rx 7700xt (and 7800). Almost all review are about the 1440p performance for the price.
HOWEVER, for me its about the size of my case/cooling and power consumption. I want to keep my power supply under 550w, and do not want an oversized case and/or cooling problems. Basically that is my criteria and I want the best performance to fit that criteria. The 4060ti is clearly the best option for what I want/need.
for me it was my 2080 ti dying, the increase in electricity price and me being worried for any compatibility issues for my future job xD
congrats for getting a terribly priced redundant card.
@@SwingArmCity You either don't read or you just aren't very smart. Tell me what card would be better for the situation I described in my post? No, let me answer for me. None would. But I hope your post gave you the mental victory lap your ego must so need to support your point of view that you don't like the card that does the job I need the best of any available card for me.
@MikeD1101a whatever you have to say to yourself to justify your blunder.
@@SwingArmCity I see once again you absolutely have to post without answering the question. What would be a better card to use if your entire system has to stay at 500 to 550 w or under... And you are just looking for the best bang for the buck and best performance for that power requirement? Oh, you are already too deep into making your stupid comments so you can't actually answer the question.
It's crazy, the 7700xt out preforms the 4070 in Cyberpunk! For $200 cheaper! This card is a contender. Thanks NOAB for the benchmarks.
Good video. You either have an ultra rare golden sample or the 4000mt/s ram is hurting your performance, you want to keep the infinity fabric to memory 1:1. Anything above 3733mt/s and the ration goes to 2:1 on the vast majority of AM4 cpu's. I've seen 3800nt/s work at 1:1 but never any higher.
In my experience 1:1 4000mt/s works best with 2 sticks on AM4, I had to bump down to 1:1 3800mt/s to have 32GB of RAM with 4 sticks. At the end of the day the performance uplift is probably super marginal anyway.
*Great video, think the 6700XT is a decent card still, will get a used one fkr around £200* :yt:
It is, I got the 6700xt for 320€ while the 7700xt is currently 480€. 50% higher price for 20-30% better performance.
Keep it Up Brother 💪
Talk to us. A little narration would be appreciated. There are plenty of channels that do this type of video. I subscribe to your channel instead, because I like your narrative style.
Yea sorry about that, originally I planned to release a standard review during embargo, but less than 24 hrs ago I found out that all of my data was bad due to my test bench configuration and had to retest EVERYTHING at the last moment. That resulted in me pulling an all nighter to get the testing redone as well as re-edited to release on embargo morning, I plan to discuss the cards on tonight's stream as well as in a future video, but wanted to get the benchmarks out for people who like the numbers since most of the other channels only show charts and numbers and not actual gameplay with metric overlays
@@nerdonabudget Don't worry... I am just having a bad day. I should not have taken it out on you. My sincere apology.
Am I just seeing things or is the image a bit sharper on the Nvidia cards?
A suprise to be sure but a welcome one.(talking about RT)
Rx 7700xt costs 200$ less;as per the price it is one of the best gpu
@nvidia a lot of sims and physics still be rendered in real time instead of a best use prior to save on frame time
Looks like I will be keeping my 6700XT for a while, When prices are cheap I will move to the 6800XT and give my daughter my card.
Same bro 🤜🤛
Same minus the daughter because kids suck
What is the best price for 4060ti for it to be considered good? Considering its tdp and bus, it performs well.
$250
Amd 90% + usable chips per wafer / Nvidia 40% to 60% chips usable per wafer
Mad asf the 7700xt drop the day after I buy the 6700xt shoulda bought that one ngl
Were you in the market for a $450-$500 card? If so, why not get the 6800 or 6800 XT which would have been in that same performance bracket?
msrp of 7700xt is not same as 6700xt lmfao.
@@nerdonabudget I was looking at the 6700xt because the next best the which was the 3070 just didn’t provide enough performance to justify the price difference. But the 7700xt looks pretty compelling for only 100 dollars more idk might return mine I gotta think about it
4060ti being slower than a 6700 XT and being priced similarly to the 7700 XT is hilarious.
its a cut down 3060ti and performs like it while sipping 50-70 watts less making it a choice for new nvidia fan boys but completly usless for people who have 3060ti and dont use nvidias dlss. tldr dotn buy it, if you only game rn you sould not go near nvidia unless you get a deal for thoose cards. +8gb vram is a handcuff, in so many games i have to turn down settings while the card has the power, you gte stutters cause of that, so imma switch to amd. + new consoles all use 10 gb vram + so you can expect that to be the minimum.
It would be great to see 1080p performance difference of these cards.
Makes sense why but 1080p would be a bottleneck since these cards are more capable and higher resolutions make the GPUs do more
@@lastnamechico true, on 1080p cpu becomes more of a bottleneck
@@lastnamechico I'm looking for upgrade from 3060 for competitive fps games at 1080p. I have 5800x3d and 360hz 1080p monitor. My main purposes are solid 300 fps on apex legends and decent fps on warzone 2,both are competitive settings. That's why I'd like to see 1080p benchmarks. Is 7700xt enough for these or should I buy 7800xt? Or do you recommend any other card?
@@CandanceTR
Hmmm... The 7800 XT is about 15% faster because of the VRAM bandwidth (256 bit vs 192 bit) and has more CUs, than the 7700 XT. But you can search for it. ;)
meanwhile here iam with my 3060ti struggling to play the newest games on 1440p....
Bro, 6700 xt is already suppressing 4060 ti lmao
Why are the AMD 7000s drain so much power? Same with 7600. +20% fps compared to 6600 but 50-70% more power consumption. I mean i Europe the electricity bills sky rocket.
cause it shows the whole system power usage. not only the chip like in 6000 series
@@tokodanarrnisaSpmm Does RTX 4070 also shows only the GPU not whole system ? I want to buy either 4070 or 7700xt
@@resonmon 4070 is more preferable if you can afford it. I think 7700xt is still overpriced atm
4060Ti has VRam probelm in that one test...
I love how the RTX are still TRASH for ray tracing lol
The price difference isn´t justified at all. The 4070 RT only wins by 10fps xD
Should I upgrade to RX 7700 XT over RX 6800?
I'm more inclined to get the 6800 but idrk
The 7800 XT for just 50 buck extra is a much better value atm than both of those imo.
I Would wait and see what FSR 3.0 has to offer, RX 6800 is a hell of a good card, depending on the results it can last you one more generation (AKA 8000 series AMD and 5000 NVIDIA) series before needing to be replaced.
I have a 6700xt and depending on the results of the said FSR 3.0 i will also wait to upgrade.
@@diegolopes7849 Why wait for FSR 3.0? No matter the case, the relative performance will remain the same. The 7800XT is clearly the better upgrade at the moment for someone looking at that price range. Anyone who can afford 450, should be able to afford 500. Specially when the 7800XT appears to be around 20/25% faster for just 11% more money. Same applies to the 6800 and 6800XT.
Next gpu a PNY 3060 12gb when I did it , got it to 19gb but still 192bit but if I get it to 4x then it’s good
Power efficiency of the 4070 is good though
@@KnowNothing-n9j colors what do u mean
RYZEN 3600 CAN HANDLE THE NEW RX 7700XT ???
this is fake , ryzen 5800x3d in game 4450mhz 50 degree impossible
Nvidia has fallen down very far
4070 is a bard on its price and 4060ti is the worst card, wondering if it can recover, reminiscing of 3050 is the worst card at all time.
RX 7700 XT wins
6700xt 1080p imperator
Really poor performance for 7700xt considering per Watt. 4070 does a way better job with that on similar price plus a far better RT performance. AMD is in a tough spot with 7700xt. I think 7800xt makes more sense. Also both Nvidia and AMD underperform this generation with overpriced crap cards with not that much of a big leap as they promised versus previous generation. This is a mess really.
4060ti not for 1080p game
720р?😅
@@ryukuy yes🫢🤣🤣
4070 ❤️👍