I just got bored if him. Just a lier.. imagine he says he doesn't know shi sha yet he is an MP but still go ahead to tell us to register to what we are not clear
All politicians are HYPOCRITE!!! You see him that way because Kenya has been moulded into a very sophisticated political terrain by none other than Tinga.
The fight is between ordinary kenyans and the elite politicians. The politicians will use the ordinary kenyans to further and solidify their political ambitions. Washenzi sisi!!!!
This guy is the greatest coward you will ever encounter..,,, they a following Ruto kama fisi waiting for his hand to fall down so they can eat!!! Nonsense!!!!!
So what will you do? Carry on with your tribalistic insults and drive them deeper in their support for Ruto? Carry on with your unintended campaign for Ruto. You are doing very well.
Who has chained to to Spicefm? If you don't like the programe being then you can switch to another station or just take a walk in the park. Ala! Ala! Ala!
We should address the fundamental issues on the new model of health insurance. Which changes have been made and what is being addressed in moving from NHIF to SHIF. What are the benefits of NHIF vis a vis SHIF. Once we are clear on this, then we can focus on implementation and other arising issues.
@dukakisomondi8552 I did not say that will make them stop since they have been programmed like robots to worship Raila without consent and without common sense. Omondi, I said it's quite unbelievable!
Your comment of bitterness against communities alone justifies their support for the alternative. I have never heard Ruto referring to other communities as cows. It is your insulting arrogance that provides route to the alternative. That's how human spirit works. Support for Ruto will definitely grow stronger in communities that didn't have much appreciation for him a few days ago. Wewe endelea tu.
I wish they made adjustments to NHIF instead of bringing in new names to confuse everybody while certain individuals in certain quarters benefit from it.
Opondo Kaluma has some nerves accusing Kenyans of not being patriotic........ A member of the house of the absurd suffering from William's disease. Shame on you
We have ID1075 in parliament. It is difficult to legislate on equality of outcome. If people were appointed based on merit and integrity, nobody would care about the ethnicity government employees so long as there is service delivery.
You are wrong. It is a constitutional requirement that public and state appointments be reflective of the face of Kenya. Meritocracy comes after that consideration.
Poorly introduced programs to the public will obviously cause suspicions. Member of Parliament know that the majority of citizens need serious guidance which is never done because your haste to change everything and all things at a short notice.
Why do so many HATE Luos? Judging from All the negative comments........ We DESERVE that position! Let the Jaluo also lead & eat!!! We are tired of Kikuyu & Kalenjin who feel entitled!!
That's what is called positive discrimination,there is no problem with that. The problem is with negative discrimination. If you give quarter's to disadvantaged people you are discriminating them positively, but if you discriminate others negatively it's viewed negatively.
From this time on the person to watch is RAIRA JADUONG. THIS TIME 👒 HATS OFF. Kenyans are yet to grasp his Machiavellian scheme this time around. And its really sophisticated.
Why can’t docs /info on these things be just published for all to read and educate themselves first of all without relying on politicians to explain to them? That way new innovations can be implemented faster
I thought this guy is a smart so he belong to hypothesis, just image he is arguing people to register to this she/ shah what happens to a ordinary person visit the service nothing to be done, then he say to ask system, (shame on yu)
i like how Du ask critical question, @spiceFm @latif GUEST is on record of walking out of interview if truth is asked. mps has failed 100% all they fight is self interesst and tumbocracy
I liked Opondo Kaluma bill on marriage and succession, though, I differ on Gachagua issue where they hide behind less known Kibwezi legislature , Mtuse
But out of the 281 MPs who voted for Gachagua's impeachment, a whole 40MPs were from Gachagua's murima. Do you agree with those 40 MPs from murima who voted to impeach Gachagua? ODM has only about 80 MPs in the current Parliament. Why are you having issues with how they voted yet you are silent on how the rest of the balance 200 MPs voted? It was most normal to vote for Gachagua's impeachment because that's where the overwhelming majority, including Gachagua's MP was. Those who voted against his impeachment was a very small minority. One doesn't need to hide when in the company of the overwhelming majority.
Excessively tribalistic tribes are very few. They are Kikuyus, Luos and Kalenjins in that order. Kikuyus are the originators of tribalism. Luos and Kalenjins have been socialized into it in reaction to Kikuyu originated tribalism. This is where extreme "Them vs us" framework of thinking is found is found.
Hon. Kaluma, never ever talk of people who are not patriotic in Kenya because you and majority of MPs are not patriotic. All you care is for the president to allow you to be corrupt and anything that benefits you and fellow corrupt mps. You don't care about your country and the people. You don't care even losing your respect from places you keep borrowing money. If it were not for the hypocrisy, corrupt, selfish leaders etc. in Kenya, we would not be Bergers. Thanks to all good for nothing mps and the president Kenya is in this situation.
The constitution is our document through which Kenyans donate some of their sovereign power to the rulers who govern us. It is binding on all of us The bible is a different subject and is not binding on all of us. That's the difference.
@georgeodhiambo598 Thanks you so much. That's the real mean. However, I'm concerned with the people who talks about it appearing to be so Kenyan than others (i.e. intellectually superior...... etc), paid so much money by just running around on channels telling us blah blah... article here, blah blah... article there and yet, they are the same folks who do not do what those article they refer. As if reading and comprehending the documents is like preparing a space rocket 🚀 to fly to the sun 🌞. Please let's make Kenya and Kenyans GREAT! We have enough for everyone. These constitution conmens should be out fashioned. Just observed this mans body language, you could think that the document was not written in Kenya by Kenyans.But they went for it in heaven...!! Ma fala tu..!!
Back to the originals, Nilotes and Bantus, remember the first world 🌎 Kingdom was constituted by a Nilote, Hamite King NIMROD. And he destroyed the Kingdom of Bantus which split into two, Northern Kingdom and Southern Kingdom. History vicious circle, Kaluma is talking deep and we get it not.
Peter Kaluma was crying like a baby when Ruto massacred kids in Kisumu. You would think he was crying for justice, only to find out he is the biggest sycophant out there
Which presidency has not massacred Luos? Luos have to make choices between 2 evils and move on with the lesser evil. Oooh yes! Gachietha used to take pride in reporting to his office in the dead of the night and arranging for the massacre of demonstrators the following day! Ruto is evil but Gachagua is worse. So hiyo line of argument usituletee!
Firewood bar when it’s neat wet for me I think one firewood is wet. The other one is due on the power waiting for the sun after a few months or one year. The other one goes to the fire. DP is gone. What about if one year the president impeachment.
Is that what Kaluma said or is it what you heard or is it what you understood by what Kaluma said? Communication between Kaluma and you appeared to have broken down due to one of those factors.
Gachagua wasn't occupying the position you and I occupy. The presidency is the symbol of national unity. A DP has no business spewing out tribal sentiments just because the other millions of Kenyans are doing the same. Indeed he should be at the forefront of driving tribalism out of Kenya.
Luos don't allow any chance of misses when it comes to personal dressing and grooming etal.why is this mheshimiwa wearing an oversized shirt.?anachomea wajango bana
Section of your discussion is terrible! Especially where you were discussing this guy's text. He is trying to be cleverly, him and rest like him are the problem.
You can't run away from a constitutional requirement unless you change the Constitution. The constitution recognizes the existence of ethnic groups. And it states that public and state appointments must reflect the face of Kenya with all its diversities including ethnicities.
A high level of hypocrisy in this guy is paramount 😅
I just got bored if him. Just a lier.. imagine he says he doesn't know shi sha yet he is an MP but still go ahead to tell us to register to what we are not clear
In every politician
All politicians are HYPOCRITE!!! You see him that way because Kenya has been moulded into a very sophisticated political terrain by none other than Tinga.
Uweeeh! God knows I cannot have the patience to deal with people of this caliber!! Hats off to the hosts!!
i know right
Total madness does he even know what he is talking about?!!!!
@@IsabellaGathoni they looked pained but sarcastically attentive
True hypocrisy what a shame!!!
Hehehe can you believe ODM was once in the streets advocating for better governance!!!?
The fight is between ordinary kenyans and the elite politicians. The politicians will use the ordinary kenyans to further and solidify their political ambitions. Washenzi sisi!!!!
They were just hungry
Yes I can. And I have no doubt about their commitment to better governance.
😂😂😂😂😂
I love listening to Muga, Eric & Ndu💯 but I've gone tone deaf .
God is the ONLY hope for ordinary mwanaichi we Kenyans.
Alloguency doesn't mean truthfulness.
Karuma has two tongues.
This guy is the greatest coward you will ever encounter..,,, they a following Ruto kama fisi waiting for his hand to fall down so they can eat!!! Nonsense!!!!!
So what will you do? Carry on with your tribalistic insults and drive them deeper in their support for Ruto? Carry on with your unintended campaign for Ruto. You are doing very well.
You miss it, these dudes have dug rutos grave politically.
Spice FM.. please don’t bring us these kind of brains again. We value our time with you.
Who has chained to to Spicefm? If you don't like the programe being then you can switch to another station or just take a walk in the park. Ala! Ala! Ala!
@are you now Spicefm spokesperson?
Birds of the same feather
We should address the fundamental issues on the new model of health insurance. Which changes have been made and what is being addressed in moving from NHIF to SHIF. What are the benefits of NHIF vis a vis SHIF. Once we are clear on this, then we can focus on implementation and other arising issues.
It is quite unbelievable that ODM cows are now praising Ruto the madman.
What makes you think that by calling them cows you will make them stop supporting Ruto?
@dukakisomondi8552 I did not say that will make them stop since they have been programmed like robots to worship Raila without consent and without common sense. Omondi, I said it's quite unbelievable!
The people who voted this government messed up all of us.
Your comment of bitterness against communities alone justifies their support for the alternative. I have never heard Ruto referring to other communities as cows. It is your insulting arrogance that provides route to the alternative. That's how human spirit works. Support for Ruto will definitely grow stronger in communities that didn't have much appreciation for him a few days ago. Wewe endelea tu.
@@georgeodhiambo598 cow
Great conversation...the presenters asking the necessary questions. Keep it up!
We will not be lectured about tribalism by KKODM.
The lecture is going on very well and you are following dutifully.
a sitting member of parliament is asking us why Agakhan hospital has better facilities than Kenyatta. A sitting member of parliament!
I think some ritual is done to these people the moment the take the positions they forget to take their brains with them or they choose ignorance
The arrogance he doesnt know if its SHI or SHA and is a whole MPIG who is representing the citizens. What a shame
Imagine
I wish they made adjustments to NHIF instead of bringing in new names to confuse everybody while certain individuals in certain quarters benefit from it.
Truth be told, Gachagua was nothing much but just some election vehicle that could not have gone any further than that.
Give us a break please. Focus on CREATIVE PEOPLE , BOOKS, AUFTHORS, SCIENTISTS, THINKERS, ARTISTS, BUSINESS IDEAS. SICK OF TRIBAL POLITUCS.
Kudos! Latiff and the other hosts I like your neutrality and asking good questions .I like this show.
for me i can tell them kudos kwa kuvumilia ujinga za huyu MP
Opondo Kaluma has some nerves accusing Kenyans of not being patriotic........ A member of the house of the absurd suffering from William's disease. Shame on you
We have ID1075 in parliament. It is difficult to legislate on equality of outcome. If people were appointed based on merit and integrity, nobody would care about the ethnicity government employees so long as there is service delivery.
You are wrong. It is a constitutional requirement that public and state appointments be reflective of the face of Kenya. Meritocracy comes after that consideration.
When it comes to basing arguments on tribes, the conversation becomes very useless. These are the type of people that devide Kenyans on tribal lines.
Poorly introduced programs to the public will obviously cause suspicions. Member of Parliament know that the majority of citizens need serious guidance which is never done because your haste to change everything and all things at a short notice.
No difference with RigG😢 Why not talk of qualified Kenyan??? That it has to be luo, what a shame😢
Why do so many HATE Luos? Judging from All the negative comments........
We DESERVE that position! Let the Jaluo also lead & eat!!!
We are tired of Kikuyu & Kalenjin who feel entitled!!
Kaluma time will tell,we are wise.....than you can put in english
That's what is called positive discrimination,there is no problem with that. The problem is with negative discrimination. If you give quarter's to disadvantaged people you are discriminating them positively, but if you discriminate others negatively it's viewed negatively.
Kenyans don't have problems with the new health system, but the process is a sham. Period!!!
From this time on the person to watch is RAIRA JADUONG. THIS TIME 👒 HATS OFF. Kenyans are yet to grasp his Machiavellian scheme this time around. And its really sophisticated.
I am not a luo but I think I support kaluma🎉❤😂
From Riggy G to Abra K power is transient nothing is permanent.!!!
Arsenal mentality you won’t win anything
Nice teeth naona umeimprove kudos
This is a great hypocrite
Is it possible to call Mheshimiwa Koigi wamwere to appear on the situation room and hear his views on kenya.
Sure
Sure
Raila and his ODM will never be the same again, very unfortunate
Why can’t docs /info on these things be just published for all to read and educate themselves first of all without relying on politicians to explain to them? That way new innovations can be implemented faster
Latif kaluma is a member of parliament and gachagua was a deputy president
You are useless, why is he advocating for Luo community then?😃😃😃
How about we the Taitas, are'nt we able to run that docket.....?
Kaluma twisting this way and that way trying to gaslight on why good for the goose is not good for the gander
How many communities are at mt kenya. About ,5.
This guy is worse than the so called tribalist
I thought this guy is a smart so he belong to hypothesis, just image he is arguing people to register to this she/ shah what happens to a ordinary person visit the service nothing to be done, then he say to ask system, (shame on yu)
If I were the interviewer I would have walked out
That's why you are not an interviewer and you will probably never be one.
i like how Du ask critical question, @spiceFm @latif GUEST is on record of walking out of interview if truth is asked. mps has failed 100% all they fight is self interesst and tumbocracy
Lies waste of time.
Ask him , how many Luis were in the initial cabinet and how many are there now. What is the difference it is still 1 CS in both cases
This guy is literally practicing what he is accusing Riggy for, double standards.
Isn’t that the truth?: “charity begins at home”. Gachagua was not wrong on that note.
Let us see what difference pHD leadership will do.🤔😎
Abrakadabrah
Wangemuita "Kick" just the sound of KiKi. AbraK so close to abracadabra even worse if it's in Hebrew.
Very useless MP… very confused!
I liked Opondo Kaluma bill on marriage and succession, though, I differ on Gachagua issue where they hide behind less known Kibwezi legislature , Mtuse
But out of the 281 MPs who voted for Gachagua's impeachment, a whole 40MPs were from Gachagua's murima. Do you agree with those 40 MPs from murima who voted to impeach Gachagua? ODM has only about 80 MPs in the current Parliament. Why are you having issues with how they voted yet you are silent on how the rest of the balance 200 MPs voted? It was most normal to vote for Gachagua's impeachment because that's where the overwhelming majority, including Gachagua's MP was. Those who voted against his impeachment was a very small minority. One doesn't need to hide when in the company of the overwhelming majority.
Tribalism will never end in Kenya
Excessively tribalistic tribes are very few. They are Kikuyus, Luos and Kalenjins in that order. Kikuyus are the originators of tribalism. Luos and Kalenjins have been socialized into it in reaction to Kikuyu originated tribalism. This is where extreme "Them vs us" framework of thinking is found is found.
So he wants shares....
Kaluma the ole sapit lookalike
Suba North MP Junet Muhammad is a Somali, living in Nyanza ,
He should not access Power sine Cs Aden Duale is in Power
Hon. Kaluma, never ever talk of people who are not patriotic in Kenya because you and majority of MPs are not patriotic. All you care is for the president to allow you to be corrupt and anything that benefits you and fellow corrupt mps. You don't care about your country and the people. You don't care even losing your respect from places you keep borrowing money. If it were not for the hypocrisy, corrupt, selfish leaders etc. in Kenya, we would not be Bergers. Thanks to all good for nothing mps and the president Kenya is in this situation.
Nonsense!!! Please end the show
I will stand by Gachagua to the end he was mob lynched,Kaluma stop the nonsense
His end came a few days ago. He is already in a conciliatory mood apart from instructing his noisy foot soldiers to go mute. The earth is hard.
If you look at article blah blah of our constitution...Is there any difference from pastors who would say verse blah blah...?!
The constitution is our document through which Kenyans donate some of their sovereign power to the rulers who govern us. It is binding on all of us
The bible is a different subject and is not binding on all of us. That's the difference.
@georgeodhiambo598 Thanks you so much. That's the real mean. However, I'm concerned with the people who talks about it appearing to be so Kenyan than others (i.e. intellectually superior...... etc), paid so much money by just running around on channels telling us blah blah... article here, blah blah... article there and yet, they are the same folks who do not do what those article they refer. As if reading and comprehending the documents is like preparing a space rocket 🚀 to fly to the sun 🌞. Please let's make Kenya and Kenyans GREAT! We have enough for everyone. These constitution conmens should be out fashioned. Just observed this mans body language, you could think that the document was not written in Kenya by Kenyans.But they went for it in heaven...!! Ma fala tu..!!
Back to the originals, Nilotes and Bantus, remember the first world 🌎 Kingdom was constituted by a Nilote, Hamite King NIMROD. And he destroyed the Kingdom of Bantus which split into two, Northern Kingdom and Southern Kingdom. History vicious circle, Kaluma is talking deep and we get it not.
This guy is shame, what happened to consistency? Another baba cow
Peter Kaluma was crying like a baby when Ruto massacred kids in Kisumu. You would think he was crying for justice, only to find out he is the biggest sycophant out there
Very sad...why is he defending SHA/SHIF? Is his boss involved in these Adan deals? Hypocrisy.
Which presidency has not massacred Luos? Luos have to make choices between 2 evils and move on with the lesser evil. Oooh yes! Gachietha used to take pride in reporting to his office in the dead of the night and arranging for the massacre of demonstrators the following day! Ruto is evil but Gachagua is worse. So hiyo line of argument usituletee!
@@georgeodhiambo598 you should join your Uganda Kinsfolk,Idi Amin would have saved you from all the suffering,Uganda was upto Naivasha.
@@bamboowarrior1833And you should head to Congo Forest because that where you belong.
@@bamboowarrior1833That will be after you have joined you kinsfolk in Congo Forest.
Hawa watu waende woooooote wabunge
Firewood bar when it’s neat wet for me I think one firewood is wet. The other one is due on the power waiting for the sun after a few months or one year. The other one goes to the fire. DP is gone. What about if one year the president impeachment.
Positions kenyans we are just cheated by coalitions agreement where thy pick positions
15:56 Hypocrisy, how is this nugu different from Gachietha
Abracadabra
Kaluma is a force in constitutional interpretation. I 🫡 salute you. 👒 hats off.
Contradicting yourself you are sir!! Someone tell him wajinga waliisha Kenya!
He's AK from 47 county
AK 47
so luo is all ethinic groups?
Is that what Kaluma said or is it what you heard or is it what you understood by what Kaluma said? Communication between Kaluma and you appeared to have broken down due to one of those factors.
Kenyans reason on tribal lines. You crucified Gachagua for nothing.
Gachagua wasn't occupying the position you and I occupy. The presidency is the symbol of national unity. A DP has no business spewing out tribal sentiments just because the other millions of Kenyans are doing the same. Indeed he should be at the forefront of driving tribalism out of Kenya.
Someone is already breaking one wing of the angel thus imbalancing him!
Nimwaigwa kahii😮
They crucified Gachagua for nothing .
Aliosha menu...anakenua
🤣🤣 walai
@nancykiberenge5597 Ngombe ya homabay
This level of idiocy in Peter kaluma is sickening
Talj about good governance
Governance includes adherence to the constitution in appointment to state and public offices.
The difference is very clear, rigijii was DP of the whole country not murima
Hi heli Ile kaluma the painkiller..this one here is a waste..nkt!
frogged by Duh ,politics has no principles
Abra kandabra
Luos don't allow any chance of misses when it comes to personal dressing and grooming etal.why is this mheshimiwa wearing an oversized shirt.?anachomea wajango bana
Kalamazoo is Telling lies amekula kitu kigodo shida ya wakenya gumbo yagu can we trust him no..?????
This guest has double standards…smartness, being ethical, loyal etc is not tribal.
Tha 'ABBRA K' is NAUSEATING.....🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮. I love kindiki so much, hopefullully he'll not adopt that cheeeesy name to being used to out do Riggy G!
Section of your discussion is terrible! Especially where you were discussing this guy's text. He is trying to be cleverly, him and rest like him are the problem.
the comment section is loud
I wanted to give mheshimiwa the benefit of doubt but turns out he is more dumber than I thought. I pity the electorate in Homa Bay Town.
We should just stop these ethnic conversations they are so annoying 😢
You can't run away from a constitutional requirement unless you change the Constitution. The constitution recognizes the existence of ethnic groups. And it states that public and state appointments must reflect the face of Kenya with all its diversities including ethnicities.
Niuukweliii...rigathiii had become Repetitive!!!!& Boring!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂 Mr.mitego statehse kila corner!!!
that guy is certified hypocrite
Ibrah kihii
Hahah mkate nusu mkeka nusu shenanigans 😢
There is nothing this mpig is saying. Such an hypocrite.
These guys are pretenders and hypocrites of the highest order
Is this arrogance or what 😮😮
Abra K haipambi unfortunately
Damn name better Abra Kadabra 😅
A charlatan 😢
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂this is more than a joke
ODM!!!!!hhhmmmmm.........