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- Today we will look at a completely new LoRa board. A new Semtech LoRa chip series (SX1261, SX1262, SX1268) and new ASR6501 microprocessor. Is it the best LoRa board ever? And what about the new LoRa chip? Let’s have a closer look.
The current LoRa chips from Semtech came to the market in 2013. Earlier this year, they finally announced new chips. So far, we did not see them often on the market. Most used boards still are based on the old chips. Recently, Heltec built this new board using one of these new LoRa chips. To find out if this is the best LoRa board ever, we will:
Compare the new and the old LoRa chips
Look at this new module used on this Heltec board
Check if and how good the Arduino IDE supports it
Measure the output power of the LoRa chip
Measure the power consumption and check if it really is “low power”
And finally, you will get my verdict
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You're amaizing. Thank you for your contributions to the world of DIY. You're a blessing to the entire world.
Thank you for your nice words! It is like a Christmas gift :-)
TCXO are NOT heated.. They simply have an integrated temperature sensor and compensation circuit that attempts to keep the output stable across a specified temperature band. An OCXO or oven-controlled XO has insulated enclosure and heating element to keep the quartz crystal at the same temperature regardless of external environmental conditions .
You are right. I made a mistake!
@@AndreasSpiess u should pin this comment for others to notice.
@@KuntalGhosh I like your thumbnail 😀
@@polik971 you mean profile picture?
Yes, sorry
The number of pitfalls that u have prevented me from falling into is amazingly high. So good, on point information, I love it!!!
Glad it was helpful!
@@AndreasSpiess You actually replied to such a old video. Keep up the good work brother. Love from Pakistan.
Thanks for the information. As a newbe to LoRa, I found your evaluation helpful as I make a decision on what to purchase.
You are welcome!
Dear Mr Spiess, i wish you a very merry Christmas and a happy new year!
Thank you. I also wish you Happy Holidays!
Thank you, Andreas! I remember asking you for this review exactly a couple of weeks before this. This helps us quite a lot.
You see, sometimes I listen to my viewers ;-)
"Especially if you shoot them into orbit" lmao I thought you were leading up to that, glad you said it. Their launch is pretty hilarious to watch.
Maybe we will see another launch in the near future...
Hi Andreas! Great video as always. I've read on the TTN forum that Heltec is planning to release a Platformio IDE package and I think this would be really helpful with development. Arduino IDE has some big limitations with external cores still today. I also think they are going to add some documentation since they are still working on it!
Merry Christmas and happy new year!
I had to do a double take to realize the name, is NOT "Lube Lell".
Ownedyou I came to the comments to post that too. Unfortunate design choice...
I have a crying lady - white cat meme ready with the same joke :)
Are you from Luxemburg? Google say the word Lell is from it.
50" inch plasma. Had it since 2010 and still have it :P Phone was either a Galaxy S4 active or a Galaxy S2. We haven't progressed THAT much :P
Maybe as the LoRa chips ;-)
Bonus point fur die alter catze. Always an essential addition to the workbench.
Agreed!
Many thanks Andreas. 🎄I wish you a Merry Christmas. 😘
Merry Christmas to you, too!
Good video. Heltec seem to have taken the need for low power sleep operation seriously. One point to note, SF6 from the LoRa SX126x devices is not compatible with SF6 from the SX127x devices.
Thank you for the information about SF6. I was not aware of that fact.
A little mistake at 13:41. About 650,000 messages. Thanks for a video!
Thank you for the correction so I really calculated wrongly:-(
If you round generously you're in the same order of magnitude. For an engineer, that is precise enough! :)
The TCXO has no heating element, it measures the temperature and adjusts the crystal drive to stay more accurate. This means, no power overhead, but higher costs. For higher spreading factors and lower bandwidth a TCXO can help, usually it is not needed, because most people use the 125kHz bandwidth.
Regarding the power, our Heltec-Turtle board needs 2µA in deep sleep mode, our Radioshuttle ESP32 ECO Power board uses about 8µA in deep sleep. The Turtle board has 2 x Flash, 4 x SARM, the ESP32 even much more.
I don’t like the CubeCell module because it has too many resource limits with only 128kB Flash and 16 kB SRAM. This limits applications and debugging capabilities, e.g. the software with debugging symbols compiled does not fit into the flash.
Thank you for this great video, regards from Hannover, Germany.
Concerning the TCXO: My mistake. You are right. Concerning the current consumption: Thank you for your information. That is amazing! Concerning the board: I see it for a sensor node where not too much logic is on the node. Then it is ok because you get a working node with very low power consumption right from the shelf.
@@AndreasSpiess I fully agree that this is a nice board for many use cases where many Arduino users just copy/paste example code. For me as an engineer I need to use debugger tools and then the flash resources are too limiting. I am more on the professional side of this and not being able to debug is a no-go for me.
Andreas, the difference between SX1261 and SX1262 and is price and output power. You cannot use more than +14dBm in EU, therefore it is no go to use the higher price higher power SX1262, but only SX1261. SX1262 is best for north america region
Tomislav
As you saw in my tests it is very easy to lose a few dB on these frequencies. So I do not fear having too much power at the antenna ;-) How much is the price difference?
The difference in price is not extremly big, around 20c. If designed well, nothing gets lost ;-) does this module have FCC?
I do not know about FCC. But in the USA they have higher power limitations.
still very interesting for radio amateurs.
@@tommihommi1 yep but need to have good external band pass filters as the harmonics are terrible.
Great video, thanks! Especially the cat at the end purring.
Thank you! Since a few days she decided to sit in front of the monitor that I caress here more...
Merci Andreas. Interesting product. I wait the library are more stable.
Good decision!
Happy Christmas and a happy new year from London England
Merry Christmas to you too!
your videos are precise as a Swiss clockwork - 73 from Berlin
I use a US function for a timed release;-). Frohe Weihnachten!
@@AndreasSpiess my post was about content and not release time - hi
There's a HUGE difference between a TCXO and an OCXO. Your verbal description was of an OCXO which does indeed include a heater, but a TCXO traditionally does NOT have a heater.
You are right, made a mistake. It seems that the TCXO still needs power. In the datasheet is stated that all currents are measured without TCXO.
It's a VERY rare day that you make a mistake on YT sir.. (so I should mark this date in my calendar? LOL)
For everyone else out there in YT-land, an OCXO (Oven Controlled Xtal Osc) will commonly draw many WATTS of power until the 'oven' reaches it's operating temperature.
By comparison, a TCXO (Temp Compensated Xtal Osc) 'senses' the temperature and 'pulls' the oscillator frequency as applicable.
A typical OCXO is capable of 2-3 orders of magnitude more 'stability' than a TCXO (and a TCXO is typically a lot more stable than a non-compensated oscillator).
You'll find an OXCO in almost ANY high-end metrology device requiring a precise / stable frequency and in such cases, the best performance is maintained by NEVER powering down the oven. For example, my both my frequency counter _and_ my spectrum analyser keep the osc running even when the rest of the unit is switched off.
The next level up from an OXCO is probably Rubidium based, but that's beyond my requirements.
Thank Andreas for all the videos this year!!! I wish you, your family and channel colleges Merry Christmas an excellent 2020!!
Thank you and best wishes to you and your family, too!
Meme confused cat at 00:01
-Cube Cell
-Lube Lell
:-))
I'm glad i'm not the only one to read it as Lube Lell, sounds like a sex toy!
Great vid as always! A bit off-topic: you might want to have a glimpse at the Kendryte K210 Boards such as Sipeed MAiX BIT and MAiXduino. These things are awesome and offer tons of power and possibilities such as AI EDGE Computing. Ideal for machine Vision and Hearing. For 30$ they come with Display and Camera and a KPU cappable of 230 Gflops. In Short: MINDBLOWING STUFF - cheers!!! Keep the execellent vids coming ... happy Christmas 😀
I have some K210 boards around but need some time to do something with them... Merry Christmas to you, too!
Andreas Spiess thank you very much. Looking forward to it. This is the next big revolution since ESP32. 👍
Just Purchased the Heltec Cubecell. Had issues using it with the Arduino IDE , and so now programming it with Visual studio Code. Best thing about the Heltec board is it remembers variables during deep sleep. Unlike esp32 where variables are lost unless stored in static memory first. Also easy sleep and wake coding of duty cycle. Heltec have made a good lora device. But Arduino IDE has problems at the moment. But actually now prefer the challenge of coding these devices , with a lack of documentation,as i have to look under the hood more. There is also a good forum group that can help resolve issues.
Thank you for the information. I plan to use one of those for my next LoRa project.
wonderful work Andreas.
Thank you!
Wow! Just what i was looking for ! You are great
Thank you!
Excellent. Please do more!
Thank you!
Interesting, and a good presentation. Having something that could operate for 30 days or more on an 18650 would be a big plus. We need long range low power. I'm always looking for that. It's interesting that we used to turn to these devices to resolve a problem. Now we have solutions looking for a problem. Have a Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you, too!
great information. i always wanted to know a few things about lora but still having issue understand it, even after watching a few of your videos of lora... i think i need to find some way to boost some brain cells of mind. thank you
eI am sure you will get behind it. I hope you found my introductory video...
Thanks for sharing and happy holidays !
You are welcome!
thank you Andreas, greetings from Argentina
You are welcome!
Merry Christmas to you and your family from a damp North Lincolnshire England.
Thank you, I also wish you Happy Holidays!
Just finished evaluating NUCLEO-WL55C1/C2 (US915/EU433) STM32WL55JCI7 + Embedded SX126x - With STOP mode 2 and 10 minute sensor cycles a summer without changing the battery. Using M0+ for the radio and M4 for the sensors, no vendor is currently selling a dual core version of the device.
My problem is that they do not support the Arduino IDE…
Nice explanation again Andreas! I'm amazed how much stuff you know and you also admit what you don't know, that is nice to know! Merry Christmas and happy NEW YEAR for you and your family Andreas!
Most of the things I do not know. But I am still learning... Also Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family!
@@AndreasSpiess You are such a nice person and honest! I would love to bee your friend and neighbor! Thank you and enjoy the Christmas Day with your friends and family! Thank you for your kind words and stuff you are sharing with all of us. I also love to tell all of the viewers Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Very nice explanation 👌 thanks 😊
You are welcome!
Nice little 3D printed pointer hand
Thank you!
Hi Andreas, another helpful video, thanks. I've been waiting for you to put the OneThinX module which you unpacked 6 months ago through its paces. It was your reference to it which alerted me, and it looks very impressive. I bought one but am still having a few problems with the VSCode tooling so it would be really useful to have a video from you as well.
Keep up the excellent work and best wishes for the 20s decade.
So far I did not invest the needed time :-(
@@AndreasSpiess Thanks for the update. I suspected this might be the case but it looks an excellent solution for LoRa device with ARM PSA pre-certification. I'm keen to hear your opinion of the Semtech 1261 output power efficiency.
AT mode probably see it up so data can be pushed to the module over serial using AT commands like an old modem.
That's what I was thinking.
You are right. But I do not know how this works in conjunction with the Arduino programmable chip.
Mr. Fluffers at the end😸
:-)
@@AndreasSpiess 🎄🎁😸
5:22 oh i definitely will be considering it before launching them to orbit, thanks
I know people who did not do that ;-)
@4m05s: TCXO is not temperature controlled, but temperature compensated. Oven Controlled Crystal Oscillators (OCXO) are the ones that use heaters to stabilize the temperature.
You are right. I made a mistake :-(
I know its probably supposed to be read as 'Cube Cell' but I keep reading it as 'Lube Lell' which makes no sense.
Same here.
Thank you so much
You're welcome!
Excellent. Thanks for sharing.
You are welcome!
Really interesting ! Very usefull information !
Thank you. And Merry Christmas!
@@AndreasSpiess Thnxs ! Also for you happy holidays and best wishes !
Fortunately the LoRaWAN world does not revolve around TTN so things like TCXOs and low receive energy ARE very important
The LoRa protocol is not too frequency sensitive because of the chirps. This helps also with the Doppler in satellites. At least this is what i heard.
Andreas Spiess We already see problems for non-TCXO modules at higher spreading factors like SF12. Long transmission times see frequency drift which impacts the data especially near the end - the CRC field. I understand long transmissions / high SF are frowned upon on public networks like TTN but definitely have their place on private ones.
This is especially true for ESP32 boards because those chips run hot when doing stuff (like driving the radio chip!) , if near the LoRa transceiver crystal you’ll have a bad time for sure
TCXO is always a requirement for us. For satellites too I’m sure because they tend to use bandwidths < 125khz. I”Not sure about Doppler effects, I hear that’s being addressed in a new LoRa modulation altogether - LoRa Evolution
I am in contact with Lacuna and they develop some better stuff for satellites together with Semtech. They use the 1262 chip.
Excellent
Thank you!
One note from the SX1262 datasheet: the output power may be significantly lower in case of even a "reasonable" antenna mismatch, as this chip lowers the supply voltage for the PA section. There is a suggested workaround, however.
I thought I measured the real power of the module and it was ok (for Europe, at least).
Hello Edin, could you elaborate on this? I have a problem with my recently purchased LilyGo T3S3 v1.1 boards with the SX1262. The original arduino firmware on the boards out of the box showed good operation; I set one board to send, the other to receive and they could ping with RSSI as good as -33 when right next to each other; this lowered to -80 at about 2 meters. I did not try longer distances.
Then, I flashed the boards to use micropython and managed to get basic messaging working with some tinkering to a driver I found on github. But now I see that even when the boards are at 1 cm away, the best RSSI I get is -80, this decreases to -110 at 1 meter, then at about 2 meters, the signal is lost completely.
My guess is that there is something wrong with how I program the SX chip to configure the power amplifier. I read through my code, the driver code, and the datasheet and everything should be correct set. I tried different settings regarding power level, PA ramp time, etc, but no improvements.
Any tips? I would be grateful for some help here. Is it possible that the chips I got are missing the power amplifier?
@@MrLampafeny Hello. It's been a long time since I wrote this, and it was some info from the Web, but I have actually not yet had experience with any Semtech chips to be able to tell you.
Based on my other, limited experiences, that is just too weak and it might be that you have a solder bridge somewhere around the radio section, short-circuiting your signal. Also could be one of your capacitors either shorting or maybe you need one for decoupling supply rails.
Very good power consumption...)
Yes!
Thanks for the info
You are welcome!
Thank you for another video. Unfortunately unwatchable with Chromecast on my TV. (Yes, I have a TV) It's watchable on other devices so it looks like on hand of Google doesn't know what the other is doing... a new level of competence 😑
Have a Merry Christmas.
Strange. I recently changed to 60fps. Maybe this is the problem?
You might just wait until the other formats have been produced by RUclips I guess.
At 11:50, that pip is the second harmonic. Nice comparison though and I still covet the spectrum analyser! (and the cat)
I know, but I do not like this definition. I do not think it is understandable for a "layman". That is why I did not use the correct denomination.
Andreas Spiess So the third harmonic is four times the fundamental in your system???
Yes. Very simple. I just count: 1st peak: Fundamental. Second peak: First harmonic etc... Quite obvious for a noob like me ;-)
Marketing may have intentionally suggested the lower model number because they probably want to sell the huge stocks of the previous chips before the new ones catch on.
:-)
Andreas, your videos on LoRa technology are a very significant contribution to the community of makers and the value extends far beyond imho. Has your experience changed over time with regard to the documentation and support for the SX1262 chip ..? I am working on deploying a network of sensors employing the BATMAN strategy and I was wondering whether the MCU onboard the Heltech board is overkill to implement this algorithm..? I am also struggling to source the IC itself..at an affordable price...any ideas..?
I never used the SX1262 chip. Maybe you go to www.meshtastic.org/ . They use LoRa for meshes with a similar protocol like BATMAN
I would kill to have a nice spectrum analyzer like that. Maybe I’m too dramatic. But I definitely covet this analyzer.
It was my dream since I was a young man. ;-)
As always, great overview of the promises of this new chip and board. Thank you. Looking into them more and will watch the development of these as this development board and the uses of this chip get matured. What's your cats name by the way?
She is called Dishka.
@@AndreasSpiess great name. Keep up the work and thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I have learned a lot from you.
Hello Andreas. Thank you very much for all your videos. Thanks to you I have some LORA devices that work in point to point. I wanted to test these heltec equipments with TTN. I tried some of their examples, I could get only a join connection with TTN, but no data seems to come up. Did you manage to get any data up?
Yes. I had one working. Maybe you check the keys.
Great video, as always. Could we get it to work easily with a 1-wire sensor, such as the 18B20?
I do not know. Maybe you try it?
Well these are still too new but the nice thing is the old LoRa boards used to be a similar price to the new ones but now they're only about $3-4 a board, so they're way more affordable now.
You are right.
This is over my head.
Great review. What is the cat's name? I bought the LoRa-E5 mini (STM32WLE5JC) and am trying to use it as a receiver for LoRa 1276 in a simple serial link application without going through the TTN website, but it's going so slow as I am too stupid to understand the protocols (I'm an EE with lots of Arduino ESP8266 experience but LoRa is new to me). I'll view more of your LoRa videos, but I'd love if you do one with the mini hosted by a Linux server. I agree with others who think your work is a godsend to the world!
Thank you for your kind words. LoRa is a very slow protocol. So do not expect anything else. SF7 is the fastest.
Maybe you use the LoRa library and its examples if not already done.
Her name is Dishka, BTW
Hi, greetings from Aesch, BL
Neat Videos
Thank you!
I don't know whether you will see this, but it is 2022, and SBCs are not to be had for love or money. But used Intel computers are cheap and plentiful. Could you do a video on building a LoRaWAn gateway using an old PC?
These days you get ready-made gateways, for example from Mikrotik, and they should be available. So I do not foresee a video about this topic.
@@AndreasSpiess Thanks
liked because cat
:-)
I just got some E32 modules up and running, im building a big project which needs longer range than wifi. I did try to use some bare SX1276 board which I could never get to communicate with my ESP32 for some reason, gave up and moved onto E32 instead
Which ones do you have? The ones with Uart or spi?
Andreas Spiess - the modules I got working are the UART ones, the ones I couldn’t get working are SPI, I purchased about 12 of them, even tried a different board in case the one I was trying to get going was a faulty one... maybe a collaboration is in order to get these working!
Andreas Spiess - this is the module I couldn’t get going: 2pcs lorawan transceiver RF LoRa module SX1276 chip nrf52832 radio
a.aliexpress.com/kRbLhFTE
It seems they are normal rfm95 modules which should work ok with the LoRaWAN library. But you have to define the pins correctly.
I spent a couple of days trying to get them to even be recognised, the ESP32 couldn't even see they were there, all very odd.
As this was the first time I've tried using LoRa it was a bit confusing, as I still don't know if it is something wrong with the modules themselves, or if I am doing something really really stupid...
Like I mentioned, I am now using E32 modules instead and they are working fine, and are obviously a lot simpler to setup compared to the others, I did have to use your trick to remap the serial1 connections tough as I need 3 serial ports for all the modules and interfaces, in fact I did more research and found a simpler way posted of how to remap them, by putting this code in: Serial1.begin(loraSerialSpeed, SERIAL_8N1, 13, 12); // serial speed, com type, RX, TX
I’ve tried using Heltec’s Arduino package for the board, but it comes with a proprietary flashing tool (they provide you with a binary and have stated that they’re not planning to release the source code) and even with a custom, binary-only, China-hosted version of gcc. Since the flashing tool does some kind of encryption, I doubt that there will be an open alternative available. Also, their tools are not available for ARM architectures, so you can’t use them in the Arduino IDE on e.g. a Raspberry Pi.
Strange. The Arduino IDE worked when I made the video.
@@AndreasSpiess Yes, if you're using an Intel-based computer it's not a problem. But when your machine is running on ARM, you're out of luck, because their tools are not available for that architecture. And since they don't make the source code available, you can't even compile it yourself.
Mine is still on order but I would hazard a guess that the AT stuff is AT modem command support?
They are similar to the old modem commands, yes.
what it the max distance transmitted? I was expecting that too
gee whiz... with all these chip changes, it must be mind bugling to pick chips for outer space... Mmmm captain Kirk...:) WS. great info video thanks for a new Arduino project idea
HELL_2_tech..............😀...:/
Good luck with your project!
Your my widdle micro buddy.
:-)
Cube Cell and not Lube Lell. Someone had very interesting interpretation of the letter "C" lol
I cannot write one letter in Chinese and I am glad they use English words at least ;-)
Now the LILYGO TTGO T-Beam V1.1 with SX1262 is available. Maybe there is a new satellite start coming up?
I heard rumors that it will start in autumn...
Schönes Video, so ein Spektrumanalyser ist natürlich ein Traum. Bei 434mhz scheint der Chip nahezu die 22dB zu bringen. Ich habe zwei t-motion von lilygo zum Test, kann ihnen einen vorbei bringen bei Bedarf. Ist ein acsip s76g drauf aber kein wifi.
Der Spectrum Analyzer war ein "Bubentraum" den ich mir im Alter erfüllen konnte. Andere träumen von einem Porsche... Betreffend Tests von anderen Modulen: Im Moment plane ich nichts in diesem Bereich. Vielen Dank für dein Angebot. Du kannst auch gerne mal so vorbei kommen...
The letters AT in combination with network... what could it possibly be... something with modem AT commands (dialstrings) maybe? Is the only thing that comes to my mind.
For sure it has to do with the modem AT commands and I even have a list of them. But I do not know if I have to flash a particular software to use them, for example.
Wow that font on the chip is terrible. Actually read that as “LubeCell” at first. lol
Harnessing the power of K-Y Jelly to improve signal stability ;-)
Keep in mind they are Chinese and probably not used to our letters...
@@AndreasSpiess Heltec.display->setFont(ArialMT_Plain_10); is at least a good choice
I still have my mobile phone from 2013. New battery but other than that it's still the same one.
Very good! The batteries usually are the weak spot (with the displays for some people...)
Nice video Andreas! What do you use to measure the current consumption? Where could I buy it?
I used this one: www.qoitech.com/
I never looked at the SX1262, I thought it was an ancient part, lower number right?
It is the newer chip. I do not know the marketing director. But I am not sure he is capable ;-)
I'm thinking about getting some lora boards for playing around with friends while camping. Would you purchase this board, or would you go with one of the ttgo boards? I am also a licensed amateur radio operator (from Canada), so I understand most of your tests regarding output power and swr. Thanks for all you do, 73.
They all use the same LoRa chips. So it does not matter too much. Maybe you have a look at the video about Meshtastic, if you are with friends.
Since when do we measure throughput in kHz?
And also kHz lowercase k = Kilo
Sorry for the nitpicking :P
Hope this is helpful!
You are right. Typo...
Andreas, thanks for your videos!
Do you know if in the meantime there has been a sw library released that works well with the sx1262?
Preferrably not an arduino library
I am using the NXP lpc55s69 Arm m33 mcu with the rfsolutions lambda62 sx1262 lora board
I only use the Arduino IDE (maybe to avoid problems like you describe ;-) )
AT support is the AT command set of standard modems surely?
I assume every modem has its own flavor of AT commands.
@@AndreasSpiess Well I do notice on the Chinese market many microcontrollers are preloaded with software so you can just use it as a modem. The ESP modules tend to come like this. Many of the old Hayes commands are now redundant, but in looking at the ESP series there are 88 AT commands.
Basic AT Commands
WiFi AT Commands
TCP/IP AT Commands
Perhaps start with these. The Chinese tend to like standards so i expect there is a modern microcontroller standard core of them. I tried to find some data on the ASR6501 and a Chinaman says the data sheet is "confidential" but he has a copy. Looking a little further i did find it on the web. It will give you some better understanding of the inner workings. I think the chip itself is their own custom chip.
Hi Andreas, thanks for the great video! Have you tried reading PWM input from a sensor and sending it using LoRa in the same script?
It seems like LoRa library is disabling PWM function somehow, as I was able to read PWM input in a separate script but it gives false readings when combined with LoRa code. All sensors+LoRa examples provided by the library mainly use I2C, none of them is using PWM. Just wondering if you came across this weir behaviour?
No, I never used PWM input.
Make tutorial on Lora sattelite use sir
Maybe, if it works... Maybe you want to watch my last video (if not already done)
Hi Andreas, nice evaluation, is this Module for sale anywhere?, couldent find it with this chip on their page BR / A.... -> ahh found it it´s the Cube cell dev board right
You should find a link in the video description
Good
Thank you!
So I conclude that the TTGo is a good choice for a future Fossasat 2/3 Ground station as it provide WiFi link and SX127x is capable to do the job and without feasable advantage for using a SX126x. Is it right?
I hope so. At least Julian wrote that they will test the TTGO boards before their next launch...
Hello sir, I have a few questions on LORA which I could not found on the net. Hope the comment section provides me with answers😀
First thing is - are sx12xx based devices capable of having different channels to receive messages at different duty cycles?
2nd - I have been using sx1278 for prototype but getting very poor range, just a few centi-metres - any suggestions on how can I improve that?
1. Only gateway chips offer more than one channel and SF in parallel. All others have to choose one channel for a particular time.
2. LoRa has a long range. So your setup definitively has a problem. Unfortunately, I cannot do remote debugging :-(
Hello Andreas, I got a Lilygo TTGO V1.1 with a SX1262 last month. I checked your video and the video about LoraWan and satellite (lacuna). But I did not get the TTGO to work with TTN. Do you have an update on "How to use SX1262". What lib to use, or even better a scatch to use?
Kind regards
Hans-Jürgen
The Arduino IDE should contain a library (search for SX126X by Bernd Giesecke).
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perfect, that was the hit I needed. thx
Dear Andreas, I got Ra-08-Kit - costs five dollars and it looks like HTCC-AB01 and does not want to be programmed by Arduino IDE :(
AFAIK the RA-08 offers a AT command interface and does the LoRaWAN protocol. So I assume it is used with an additional MCU if you do not want to bother with the LoRaWAN protocol. Search for "LORAWAN NODE APPLICATION: AI-THINKER RA-08/H MODULE" (RUclips deletes links)
great job!!! Thanks for your videos!. LoRa World would be thank you. When you will give us away a project? For example TTN MAPPER with this kind of device. Regards.
I do no giveaways because of the postage out of Switzerland. It is easily more expensive than the part itself.
Andreas Spiess ok. Maybe a documentation is enough
hi andreas, I also played with a cubecell board this weekend but struggled when it came to receive downlink messages from ttn. the messages were logged on the console but I couldn't figure out how to read them in the provided example sketch.. have you tried that?
This is what I meant with the lack of documentation...
Hi. Can cubecell be used with Meshtastic? Do they provide flashable fw?
You have to check their project.
Thanks for your interesting videos. I use a Heltec AB01v2 Board which works confidently. There's an used 1100mAh / 3.7V LiPo Battery attached to the Board which is charged by a solar panel. I evaluated the net about informations but I couldn't find anything valueable: Apparently, there is an overcurrent protection but in the schemetics I only see a "black box", so I am not really sure if I can simply connect this battery without trouble when using a 5V solar panel at Vs input. I measured the voltage & current, in the meantime it increased to 3.9V, at exact 100mA charging current. So I wonder if there is a current controller/reducer... Do you know something about this topic?
I made some videos about solar charging of Li-Ion batteries. If you read the specs of your board, it says that it works witth a solar panel up to 7V. So no issues if you stay inside these limits.
@@AndreasSpiess Thanx Andreas, could you send me a link about your Solar Charging Video.
A Cypress PSOC has an ARM CORTEX M0(+), M3 or M4 CORE with highly configurable peripherals that you can connect with each other or with the processor core. It's a bit Like a tiny fpga combined with an MCU. (If i'm correct you can write Verilog code for them to create your own peripheral). So would be very nice if someone could translate the code generated by PSOC Creator to Arduino...
You should definitely watch video's on youtube about this PSOC technology.
You are right. I know the advantages nad have a PSOC development board here. I just need the time to dig into it :-(
Good Morning,
I’m using some HTCC-AB01 like sender, I’m sending some value read from 5 sensors connected to their GPIO. I’m using also an HTCC-AB01 like receiver.
I need to know how many HTCC-AB01 used like sender can be handle by one HTCC-AB01 used like receiver.
Can you help me?
This depends on the programs you use. Often it is only 1:1.
Maybe you watch my LoRa introduction video if you want to understand LoRa networks with many nodes.
Hi Andreas "I bought the Heltec AB02 board. I want to connect it to chirpstack lorawan server. (As gateway, I connected dragino dlos8.) How can I do that?
I think so. I never used it.
Hi, I am from Colombia. The video seemed quite interesting to me. I am new working with LoRaWAN, I am developing a project which I need to use this protocol. I bought the 915 MHz band Heltec brand CubeCell HTCC-AB01 node. Since I'm new to this, I haven't literally uncovered the box. I would like you to explain to me from scratch, if it is not a nuisance. I would like you to indicate which pins should I connect, how should I connect them, how should I connect them to the gateway, how should I do the tests, how can I control a sensor remotely with the help of that node. The gateway I have is a UG87 Ursalink brand. Any information you can offer me will be very helpful. Thank you.
I am a RUclipsr, not a consultant ;-)
@@AndreasSpiess Ok I understand. Could you tell me where I can make that query? Thanks
@@juansebastianmejiarincon2344 Though it might be late for you, I will answer it for others; just ask in any forums or Q&A sites like EEVBLOG, StackExchange, etc.
More harmonics than my RPITX lol
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