I had appreciated Van Eyck on a surface level before, but I was absolutely blown away with the information presented on this documentary. The textures of what he paints are so real, it almost looks like a photograph when close up. The colors, too, are extremely vibrant and alive. It's even more astonishing when placed in context with other works of the time, giving a sense of the true magnitude of his genius.
hm, anybody excited about the Van Eyck painting? Of the Arnolfini couple? This is something amazing @ 49:00 I am totally impressed... this theory by Koerner's wife (then fiancé), Dr. Margaret L Koster is as beautiful as "heretic". True, and truly amazing... a great finding in art history... This painting has been misunderstood for ages.... but now we can see it for what it really is... Amazing, the finding that Dr. Margaret L Koster made is just HUGE :)
Excellent coverage! This isn't just a slide show of great Northern European art, but digs into how the paint was made and much more. I appreciate the effort made to point out the details. I'm having my high school students watch it. It is sad that folks watch nearly an hour of a well done documentary and only comment on what they don't like (which doesn't have anything to do with the actual information covered).
How amazingly did Van Eyck capture the true personality and wishes of the sitter, no matter how dignified and perfect the sitter wished to appear. Most likely, he did not dare show what he truly saw or thought of his sitter and had to bring out magnificence and perfect piety in the portrait. Yet Van Eyck did not allow the perfection of his technique to hide the impious greed, self-aggrandizement and or other flaw.
A privilege recalling these documentaries - not all is correct, but the images rather than the comments burn a renewed candle. And that is where merit lies.
For Joseph Koerner, I agree with your wife's theory on the Arnofini portrait. My question is, did she die in the later stages of pregnancy? Does the record say how she died along with the date? Ever since I first saw this portrait, All I could think was that she was pregnant. Giovanni's gaze is keeping her abdomen in his peripheral, as if not just mourning her loss, but that of an almost term, unborn child, as if he can't bear to look directly at her. I do think it is a memorial panting, but of his wife and the child he was waiting for.
At 18:43, that's not Philip the Good's Isabella of Portugal, and that painting is not by Van Eick. That woman is also named Isabella of Portugal all right, but she was born 100 years after her namesake and great-grand aunt, was betrothed and married to Charles V of the Holy Roman Empire, and that painting of hers shown at 18:46 is by Titian.
But was the Northern Renaissance actually a renaissance. What was revived? They did not look back to the classical art of Greece and Rome, but to the future .
You are right. It was not really a Renaissance like that in Italy. It was more a steady development. I think the use of the term Renaissance is just to indicate the 1400s coinciding with the Italian Renaissance, sounds better than Late Medieval I suppose.
Its always the musical background which ruins these otherwise interesting programs for me. The visuals are saturated in the the period, yet the sound is modern or several centuries off. With all the research on the period's music why are the producers so reluctant to match correct music with the period? Very odd.
It's not a perfect world that's why. They aren't obligated to match up the music. It's not a documentary about the music. It's about art. The music is inconsequential
This is a WONDERFUL DOCUMENTARY but I would like to point out: Wrong painting; wrong Isabella of Portugal. The portrait shown here is a Titan and is of Charles V 's wife, not the Duke of Burgundy's.
Mel Danvers I noticed that too. But hey at least there’s a bunch of people gettin riled up about the northern renaissance. U know the important stuff ;)
Of course that the "isabella Princess of Portugal" he's showing is by Titian from maybe 100 years later. It's sad... if he (the presenter) was in Ghent as we see he is, and watching the portraits of Philip, for sure he saw those from the "real" Isabella that he talks about too, no? Such HUGE mistake :(
hello fellow struggler. In this dark and unfair world, i just thought i'd let you know that God loves you and to never stop loving yourself and pursuing happiness.
Beyond the acting the imperial government was irrelevant to local culture through out its borders , u should know the “empire” was made Of almost totally autonomous areas , it wasn’t an empire like Germany circa 1900 etc.
The Renaissance is supposed to mean a deliberate re-birth of the vanished culture, arts and sciences of greco-roman antiquity. Just as the carolingian renaissance, the (so-called) northern renaissance wasn't a renaissance of anything - that's the way I'd always been taught. People need a brand and if ones phantasy doesn't spawn enough ideas for naming a brand... ...well then you'll take an obvious choice and disqualify it by an opaque qualifyer.
It’s an astonishing movements that held our deepest beliefs about artists . These breakthrough created a new Northern renaissance that changed art forever . In the year 1420 plague had wiped out more than a third of the entire population. Meanwhile the old politics powers of the North .Flanders in present day Belgium in holiday a profound artistic revolution spread out across the continent. At bhqves carreras in cheap holds the pairing that started the revolution.
when viewing these Northern Renaissance masters paintings think of the level of "achievement" before your eyes & senses. The composition, the skill of transforming pigment into the illusion of three dimensional solid objects. Now move forward 400 yrs to the early 20thc. Cubism, abstract , abstract expressionism, fauvism etc. etc. what is the level of "achievement" before your eyes & senses ? What is really there to "view" ????
The achievement lies in the evolving nature of art, new concepts being introduced. The technical skill required to take paint and transform it into a vivid, realistic portrait has stayed stagnant over the past few hundred years because there really isn't anything that can be done better. It has reached its peak, therefore, art must evolve in a different way.
Some people only see paintings some people see the secrets of the universe. It's all about geometry of the human body, the feminine and the masculine, adem or eve, day and night, ying or yang. The feminine is the right side of the body and the left side the feminine. Below your heart is earth or hell and some all the human instincts and ego and the physical universe. Above the heart is heaven. It's all about geometry and how to reach enlightenment or christ consciousness the road to freedom of suffering and trapped in this physical world. You see it how they build churches, temples, pyramids, ancient greece, altars, paintings, the renaissance architect, victorian art. It's the road inwards and releasing yourself from hate and fear. The kingdom of heaven is within you, the tree of life is not something you find in the woods but your spine and nervous system.
Is a shame that the producers of this other wise good presentation were tone deaf. Accurate music scores are available, as well as accurate or at least very good educated summations of performance practices, of music of the period discussed, are easily accessed. The music which was selected is not bad but its coming from periods hundreds of years later than that which is being discussed, is annoying, and weakens what could have been a great program.
Totally agree - so often this happens and the scores chosen fail to support the images, in fact they detract from the experience by failing to provide suitable atmosphere, historical or geographical placing. Well known pieces of music usually distract a lot of viewers.
it's so great that you point this out... commercial projects respect no superior entity... audience is just amass of "users" for them... I appreciate that you reveal: the fact that the lecture is great does not mean that all details are made at the same level of quality....
Okay. I have seen this before.. but I agreed with the point you were making :) BUT .. I have to say I find the choice of the music perfect... Schubert? Why not? Who told us that a lecture has to have music of the same period from which the subject of the lecture is? The use of Schubert's unfinished symphony -- straight off -- hits a "tone" that is out of the normal, out of what's expected... and also, revolutionary... cause it emphasizes that we, the viewers, come from a different time... Schubert is like "depeche mode", but it's cool.. cause that's what our age is... I like your critique, I totally do, but I love how it starts... (and I'm not saying "sorry" cause I know it's obvious that it's not against you :) )
Really? Tchaikovsky as background music for series on the Renaissance? Durer being “the first world famous artist” when the world means only what lies between London and Vienna?
Well, Mr. (Dr.?) Koerner feels that painting was the “ultimate art,” but I have to disagree, in favor of music, mostly because it’s more abstract than the other arts….it’s the language of sound, with its own mathematics, it’s own physics. That’s my opinion!
The BBC is no longer accurate: van Eyck belonged to an area comprising not only Holland but parts of Belgium, and the altar in Ghent is not only attributed to van Eyck but his son as well. Shame on you
It's "Bogoroditse Devo" by Rachmaninoff - beautiful piece, but I have no idea why they put Orthodox Church music in the documentary about north europe. Anyway I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has problem with it ;)
Getting baked and watching these bbc art doc's is so relaxing!!
amen
Yes it makes the art feel so 3-D And Important. Really immersive into the time and place
Hell yeah.
Amen lol same here
amen bro! chilli bean chilliinnn
I had appreciated Van Eyck on a surface level before, but I was absolutely blown away with the information presented on this documentary. The textures of what he paints are so real, it almost looks like a photograph when close up. The colors, too, are extremely vibrant and alive. It's even more astonishing when placed in context with other works of the time, giving a sense of the true magnitude of his genius.
Required to watch this for an Art History class. Beats the heck out of reading the textbook!
The northern Renaissance is the most stunning rebirth and the painter was the greatest painter who ever lived
Proud to be Flemish.
hm, anybody excited about the Van Eyck painting? Of the Arnolfini couple? This is something amazing @ 49:00
I am totally impressed... this theory by Koerner's wife (then fiancé), Dr. Margaret L Koster is as beautiful as "heretic". True, and truly amazing... a great finding in art history... This painting has been misunderstood for ages.... but now we can see it for what it really is... Amazing, the finding that Dr. Margaret L Koster made is just HUGE :)
How amazing. People haven't desire deep in their soul to create things and some people just create the most magnificent things
Jan Van Eyck period
Thank you for creating this video.
Excellent coverage! This isn't just a slide show of great Northern European art, but digs into how the paint was made and much more. I appreciate the effort made to point out the details. I'm having my high school students watch it. It is sad that folks watch nearly an hour of a well done documentary and only comment on what they don't like (which doesn't have anything to do with the actual information covered).
Many thanks marvellous programme. !!! How I wish someone would present a programme on 15 century English and Flemish music !!! Warren
I have seen this video several times and each time I discover new things, thanks to the inspiring teaching of Joseph Leo Koerner.
Fantastic Documentary. Dense with interesting and enlightening info, I love it !
How amazingly did Van Eyck capture the true personality and wishes of the sitter, no matter how dignified and perfect the sitter wished to appear. Most likely, he did not dare show what he truly saw or thought of his sitter and had to bring out magnificence and perfect piety in the portrait. Yet Van Eyck did not allow the perfection of his technique to hide the impious greed, self-aggrandizement and or other flaw.
Absolutely amazing documentary. I've learned so much and plus, it's constructive and informative!
Am I the only one who needs to stop every two minutes to take notes? It’s so dense with information!
53:20 things like this prove that documentaries themselves can be works of art
These presentations support periods of history in flames with constant war or describes a favoured culture group with super hyperbolic plus language.
Very informational, great music great examples !
And this change took root in the most
A privilege recalling these documentaries - not all is correct, but the images rather than the comments burn a renewed candle. And that is where merit lies.
José Alexandre comments made by the narrator or the Comment section
The northern renaissance had a more naturalistic approach. Depictions of people feel more real in the northern renaissance
For Joseph Koerner, I agree with your wife's theory on the Arnofini portrait. My question is, did she die in the later stages of pregnancy? Does the record say how she died along with the date? Ever since I first saw this portrait, All I could think was that she was pregnant. Giovanni's gaze is keeping her abdomen in his peripheral, as if not just mourning her loss, but that of an almost term, unborn child, as if he can't bear to look directly at her. I do think it is a memorial panting, but of his wife and the child he was waiting for.
38:19 So Van Eyck invented the selfie?
That old guide points so close to the Ghent Altar with his stock, then touches it with his fingers, lol.
My appreciation for Waldemar Januszczak grows and grows.
I can smell hell from this architecture bro🥺
Its looks scary🥺
At 18:43, that's not Philip the Good's Isabella of Portugal, and that painting is not by Van Eick. That woman is also named Isabella of Portugal all right, but she was born 100 years after her namesake and great-grand aunt, was betrothed and married to Charles V of the Holy Roman Empire, and that painting of hers shown at 18:46 is by Titian.
Love the documentary. But got absolutely lost at min 30:37. Tried to listen it 3-4 times, too twisted!
But was the Northern Renaissance actually a renaissance. What was revived? They did not look back to the classical art of Greece and Rome, but to the future .
It was a renaissance of the arts in general, not in "styles" or "waves" of a certain art.
You are right. It was not really a Renaissance like that in Italy. It was more a steady development. I think the use of the term Renaissance is just to indicate the 1400s coinciding with the Italian Renaissance, sounds better than Late Medieval I suppose.
Did this documentary have a part II about Hieronymous Bosch, Pieter Brueghel the Elder nd the late Dutch renaissance?
Wasnt it two peopl who painted the Ghent altarpiece
The Ghent Altarpiece was painted by both the van Eyck brothers, Huybrecht (or Hubert) and Jan van Eyck
I'm just annoyed that he says "vin yards" not vineyards
Who can tell me. What is the name of picture at 2:27 or name of the artist
Bosch.
Garden of earthly delights.
@@gavinreid8351 Thanks a lot dear!
Superb! thankyou.
Of huge precious tapestries enough
Its always the musical background which ruins these otherwise interesting programs for me. The visuals are saturated in the the period, yet the sound is modern or several centuries off. With all the research on the period's music why are the producers so reluctant to match correct music with the period? Very odd.
It's not a perfect world that's why. They aren't obligated to match up the music. It's not a documentary about the music. It's about art. The music is inconsequential
@@picassoboy52 Right, said the non-artist.
This is a WONDERFUL DOCUMENTARY but I would like to point out: Wrong painting; wrong Isabella of Portugal. The portrait shown here is a Titan and is of Charles V 's wife, not the Duke of Burgundy's.
Yes, exactly, I thought that myself.
35:24 Dennis Hopper
"The eagle is plucked. He will not rise again." - Our Lady, July 15, 1970
I hope you don't live in America if you actually believe the kind of nonsense you posted.
seethe
This cant be watched in 360p ya ding
I love the music it feels like I hear heaven singing like birds chirping, pls tell me the music I love it
The music is from the second track of Meatloaf's 1993 album "Bat Out of Hell II: Back into Hell". Youre welcome 🤗
Of silk thread individually entwined and silver and gold
Hopefully, this documentary enabled Mr. Koerner to buy a second suit.
for those of you who feel this presentation is not your idea of perfection, visually, audibly
>>>>GO FISH
I swear the Dutch were the greatest painters! i'm so infatuated with them!!!
Ostentatiously luxurious objects
Can someone summarize this for me omfg
Dude, Great doc but I can’t not hate this guy.
Such as tapestry
I see the the condescending snobs are out in full force.
Mel Danvers I noticed that too. But hey at least there’s a bunch of people gettin riled up about the northern renaissance. U know the important stuff ;)
To cover their many residences
Style adveraros es the persons belonging to a certain life style it distingues nocljs and they consisted the more expensive materials
Of course that the "isabella Princess of Portugal" he's showing is by Titian from maybe 100 years later. It's sad... if he (the presenter) was in Ghent as we see he is, and watching the portraits of Philip, for sure he saw those from the "real" Isabella that he talks about too, no? Such HUGE mistake :(
I noticed that too. It made me stop watching the series.
hello fellow struggler. In this dark and unfair world, i just thought i'd let you know that God loves you and to never stop loving yourself and pursuing happiness.
There is no god
Must make atheists feel insecure seeing the artistic work of christians, knowing how paltry their own slop is in comparison
See 50:18. Beautiful AND intelligent -- a dangerous combination.
Definitely intelligent. As far as beauty goes, the more you drink the prettier she becomes 🤷🏻♂️
29:24 Almost translucent? It is perfectly translucent although it is almost transparent
lol noob
The works the dukes composed included hundreds
northern renaissance or holy german empire renaissance...whatewher northern renaissance you pick ,it was part of holy german empire
Beyond the acting the imperial government was irrelevant to local culture through out its borders , u should know the “empire” was made
Of almost totally autonomous areas , it wasn’t an empire like Germany circa 1900 etc.
Great documentary indeed. Does anybody knows what music track starts around minute 50? Thank you.
I found it myself. Laura´s theme by Craig Armstrong. Wonderful!
The Renaissance is supposed to mean a deliberate re-birth of the vanished culture, arts and sciences of greco-roman antiquity. Just as the carolingian renaissance, the (so-called) northern renaissance wasn't a renaissance of anything - that's the way I'd always been taught.
People need a brand and if ones phantasy doesn't spawn enough ideas for naming a brand...
...well then you'll take an obvious choice and disqualify it by an opaque qualifyer.
The inscription above Van Eycks self portrait means,”the best I can do”. It’s humorous false humility.
Inside and out
It’s an astonishing movements that held our deepest beliefs about artists . These breakthrough created a new Northern renaissance that changed art forever . In the year 1420 plague had wiped out more than a third of the entire population. Meanwhile the old politics powers of the North .Flanders in present day Belgium in holiday a profound artistic revolution spread out across the continent. At bhqves carreras in cheap holds the pairing that started the revolution.
Eyrixk was the prince of the pinters in all many wonders the most single out out for praise is the picture of Adam
Adam’s hands
And face is visibly tanned by the son
The toe seems even to stick out the stone niche
He was stepping into our world
This artist pretty much triggered the renaissance and everything that came after.
Al Green - Light Through Glass good boy
Holy shit his wife is gorgeous.
He certainly over-achieved...
y
She looks a little manly .
Why can't a woman appear on a video without her appearance being commented on? You know?
Madam Smellypits Why can't people quit whining about people that make an observation of someone , holy fucking sjw .
when viewing these Northern Renaissance masters paintings think of the level of "achievement" before your eyes & senses. The composition, the skill of transforming pigment into the illusion of three dimensional solid objects. Now move forward 400 yrs to
the early 20thc. Cubism, abstract , abstract expressionism, fauvism etc. etc. what is the
level of "achievement" before your eyes & senses ? What is really there to "view" ????
The achievement lies in the evolving nature of art, new concepts being introduced. The technical skill required to take paint and transform it into a vivid, realistic portrait has stayed stagnant over the past few hundred years because there really isn't anything that can be done better. It has reached its peak, therefore, art must evolve in a different way.
@@RatHeadxxx No it's called subversion of culture to praise the ugly and look how ugly society is today.
3:21
Some people only see paintings some people see the secrets of the universe. It's all about geometry of the human body, the feminine and the masculine, adem or eve, day and night, ying or yang. The feminine is the right side of the body and the left side the feminine. Below your heart is earth or hell and some all the human instincts and ego and the physical universe. Above the heart is heaven. It's all about geometry and how to reach enlightenment or christ consciousness the road to freedom of suffering and trapped in this physical world. You see it how they build churches, temples, pyramids, ancient greece, altars, paintings, the renaissance architect, victorian art. It's the road inwards and releasing yourself from hate and fear. The kingdom of heaven is within you, the tree of life is not something you find in the woods but your spine and nervous system.
Is it ok to touch the illuminations with your bare fingers? Wouldn't he have to wear cotton gloves normally?
27:45 mhm
Lots of ads!
The irony of the commentary here is that Whistler was a super art elitest LOL
40:10 Adam Driver!?
okay wait wait that shit about adam was super dope
Who is the Duke of Burgundy?
Pookychan Kii there isn’t one anymore
Tan van eyck reinvented craft more high leveled. Art compared to another painters.
47:27 Putin & Churchill.
Is a shame that the producers of this other wise good presentation were tone deaf. Accurate music scores are available, as well as accurate or at least very good educated summations of performance practices, of music of the period discussed, are easily accessed.
The music which was selected is not bad but its coming from periods hundreds of years later than that which is being discussed,
is annoying, and weakens what could have been a great program.
Much of it just sounded like Hollywood movie music to me. Blah.
Totally agree - so often this happens and the scores chosen fail to support the images, in fact they detract from the experience by failing to provide suitable atmosphere, historical or geographical placing. Well known pieces of music usually distract a lot of viewers.
it's so great that you point this out... commercial projects respect no superior entity... audience is just amass of "users" for them...
I appreciate that you reveal: the fact that the lecture is great does not mean that all details are made at the same level of quality....
Okay. I have seen this before.. but I agreed with the point you were making :) BUT .. I have to say I find the choice of the music perfect... Schubert? Why not? Who told us that a lecture has to have music of the same period from which the subject of the lecture is? The use of Schubert's unfinished symphony -- straight off -- hits a "tone" that is out of the normal, out of what's expected... and also, revolutionary... cause it emphasizes that we, the viewers, come from a different time... Schubert is like "depeche mode", but it's cool.. cause that's what our age is...
I like your critique, I totally do, but I love how it starts... (and I'm not saying "sorry" cause I know it's obvious that it's not against you :) )
Chris Doeller dude focus on the art not the historically inaccurate background music
The hunger for
Lavish culture in Europe is the time the court of burgundy
Really? Tchaikovsky as background music for series on the Renaissance? Durer being “the first world famous artist” when the world means only what lies between London and Vienna?
That's Schubert, not Tchaikovsky.
They told stories commemorating famous stories or religious scenes
Briefly only to be melted down to make new confections
Why the fuck did you write like 10 comments
Well, Mr. (Dr.?) Koerner feels that painting was the “ultimate art,” but I have to disagree, in favor of music, mostly because it’s more abstract than the other arts….it’s the language of sound, with its own mathematics, it’s own physics. That’s my opinion!
Úsenles but staging costly objects were displayed br
The court of the duke of
Van Eyck and Durer... between them they perfected painting and drawing... technically nobody has ever reached that point again
Not entirely true. Hyperrealism is a thing if you are talking technique alone.
@@HaneeFannee that's copying photographs. Not really the same.
OMFG the intro music IS THIS MEANT TO BE PAINFUL!!??
You're free to switch to some of their video at any point you need to
But by the begging of the 15th century the
The man who launched it in Ghent was the
The BBC is no longer accurate: van Eyck belonged to an area comprising not only Holland but parts of Belgium, and the altar in Ghent is not only attributed to van Eyck but his son as well. Shame on you
Began by Hubert, completed by his brother,Jan.
African Art is the real art,without Education our father's made unique and priceless work of arts.
They had education, it was a different type it was there
Dumb idiot
face-palm
Every culture had different styles of art
I am very stoned out ~420
So two years later now, you don't remember shit. Doesn't sound worth it
The international market was introduced by royalty and nobility and
12:06 Horned Moses :))))
There is a book on this subject. Seems a mistranslation of rays of light.
The finest tapestries would be woven
Vin-yards seems to be a bit over-pronounced
It's not a perfect world
what an unsuitable choice of music for 15th century
It's "Bogoroditse Devo" by Rachmaninoff - beautiful piece, but I have no idea why they put Orthodox Church music in the documentary about north europe. Anyway I'm glad that I'm not the only one who has problem with it ;)
Shiny happy people by REM
Do you mean the piece that is playing in the beginning? No, that's Schubert's unfinished symphony (8th). Still not fitting.
It's not a perfect world
Sculpture ... Michaelangelo