When I see that only 9% of the self-proclaimed Christians hold a biblical world view, I know that narrow is the gate to salvation. If I try to evangelize, I'd get and have gotten viciously attacked, cancelled, and censored.😭 Maranatha!🙏
If you are getting your data from Barna, that number is down to 4% from 6% preCOVID. Worse only 37% of clergy have a biblical worldview. The numbers are scary. 9% is the number who might be saved. But that was when 6% had a biblical worldview.
The video cited the survey results that 60% of Gen Z said the October 7 massacre by Hamas was justified. That seems to go beyond criticizing, doesn't it?
The thing I don’t understand is the definition of antisemitism as “not supporting the state of Israel”. I would think the definition would be racism against the Jewish people, not support for a government…
But denying their right to have a state is also attacking the people who are the people of that nation. Especially if you read the Bible. The majority of the Bible from Joshua on through at least the Gospels are within the borders of modern Israel. The rest of the Bible happens within the regions we know as the Middle East and Southern Europe (Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, Greece, and Italy)
Without a country the Jews are not safe, since forever we have been targeted around the world. The idea of living in Israel is having a safe space. Therefore, saying Jews shouldn’t have a safe space in their own country is antisemitism.
Exercising nuance in specific policy is fine. Supporting positions that do not allow Israel to defend her borders and civilians, and positions that threaten Israel's existence are antisemitic.
@@jackcarraway4707 The Jews have no home but Israel. There are so many Arab states and vast land the Arabs have. What the Jews have is a fraction of their ancestoral homeland. Jews in other countries are victimized and told to go home. Lastly Arab Israelis have the same rights as their fellow Jews. Arabs can stay in Israel but it needs to be a Jewish state. I can't go to Japan and demand that they make it South African where I come from and that is what is happening with this conflict in Israel where they want the Jewish state to cease to exist. Germans, French, English, Irish have they own state. Why is it a problem for the Jew??
Israeli viewer. Thank you so much for this interview Alisa and Dr. Jeff. Of all the points Dr. Jeff made I want to affirm what he said about how the IDF identifies Hamas, as those who shoot at them. This is so true and its not lost on the population, moms in particular, that we have a higher fatality rate in the IDF because of this. I appreciate so much that he just outrightly told everyone here. I can't praise this interview enough.
I wouldn't say this is a Gen Z thing but just a younger generation thing after more people from Islamic countries have been in America Like a post 9/11, realize the war in Iraq was a mistake, distrust any involvement in the Middle East effect
I usually agree with your concerns, but you are labeling an issue antisemitism when it's really about an apartheid and human rights. I was raised Catholic, then Born Again in college. I learned the Baptist teaching for years, specifically dispensationalism. I've learned since from good preachers that the New Covenant theology is biblical. It does teach that Jews were God's chosen people in the old testament/ covenant. But when Jesus came, died and resurrected he taught his apostles that the chosen people were the Christians, that is anyone who trusted Jesus as savior. It says in the Bible that the NT there is no difference between Jew or Gentile. So how can Jews be a chosen people any longer. If they trust Jesus, then they are part of the royal priesthood. Jesus said in the NT that he would take away the nation from the Jews and give it to a people producing fruit. That would be Christians, the new Israel and Jews and any race can be a part of the faith promise of salvation as Abraham was in Genesis. The reason evangelicals think antisemitism is a thing, is because they don't want to take their focus off of the modern state of Israel and focus on Jesus the NT Israel of God. Also thousands of Jews and Holocaust survivors don't support the modern state of Israel. They say it is zionism which does not even believe in God. AIPAC American Israel Public Affairs Committee has all to do with the promotion of Israel in this country. The Congress is paid off, except for some. Thomas Massie is an admirable Republican representative who doesn't support Israel and has no AIPAC buddy. You really need to research and study your Bible and not listen to the popular evangelical and MSM narrative. I didn't realize all this til I read the Bible just as Jesus Christ words were on the page. Not with a bias Israel slant. Scofield and Darby twisted theology with their dispensational false teaching. All the faithful preachers interpreted the Bible up til the 1800 century as the new covenant theology and didn't focus on a modern Israel.
You are as biased as everyone else you accused to be biased. You realise that, right? You are biased against Israel and it’s as bad as the other party, if you will. Read also your Bible. Jesus ever cried for Jerusalem representing the Israelites. He loved them the same from time immemorial until today. Unlike humans, God can love people the same while having His choosing. God has chosen you to do things that you do. I don’t see any contradiction in God’s word. But you did
@@blusky7 not antisemitism. Tearing down the idol is not nessecarily a hatred of what the idol represents but rather the love of the idol over God. Luke 14:7-24 Mathew 3 :7-12 Hebrews 11 Jonah 3 Galatians 3 Romans 4:1-18 Gen 3:14-15 Scripture is clear, from the beggining we are saved by faith. Jesus was prophesied in Genesis. Romans 11:25-26 does not mean that all of Israel will be saved in the end. Read the whole chapter more clearly and plainly and its meaning is much simpler. God has not abandoned or forgotten Israel nor any covenant, the stubborness of Isrsel has worked unto thier nation a stubborness for generations that will be lifted just before the day of judgement. There is no need to worship any nation, rather always pray for thier repentance. This is what saddens me, christians going to Israel for vacations rather than mission trips as if they are in the land of saints when in reality they are surrounded by the lost.
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below? Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. God is not now a "racist". He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son's blood at Calvary. There is no Plan B of salvation based on race in the New Testament. The Apostle Paul warned against using "genealogies" in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4 and Titus 3:9. Go to Gaza City and spend some time with our Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ, if you want to understand what it means to be threatened. Why were two unarmed Christian women shot by Israeli snipers while going to the toilet at their church in Gaza? Why were Christians killed while they were taking shelter at their 800-year-old church in Gaza City, when an IDF bomb hit beside their church? How many of their homes have been turned to rubble? How would you feel if armed drones were constantly flying overhead, while you are without food? Why was Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu-Akieh shot by the IDF before October 7th? These people were not killed by Hamas. Why have these people been ignored by most Christians in the U.S.? Are the Christians being killed in Gaza “Semites”?
@@americandropbear5081 because this is the longest religious war in all of history. Hamas' feelings towards Israel and religious Israels feelings towards Palestinians are equal. However if Israel behaves towards Palestinians the way that Hamas behaves towards Israel then they lose western support. It is the west that is protecting and arming Israel and they dare not risk losing that support so they are more careful because the entire middle east will destroy them the second that the west disowns them. The goal is cleanse the land of infidels, the problem of course is that infidels is a reletive term.
@@americandropbear5081 but, did they? Yes, I realize that Israeli media claimed they did, but Israeli media claims a great many things which are certainly not all true. That's no different than our own media.
I have a pet theory that older generations grew up seeing Israel as an underdog...a homeland for a people who had just been put through the holocaust and who had to spend years fighting against countries that wanted to destroy them. Younger generations grew up with Israel being the top dog (at least in the region), with a well-trained military and backed by the money and technology of the USA, which makes them less sympathetic.
SO disappointed that all of my comments in the Live Chat seem to have been censored. Alisa apparently prefers it that way, but she would learn a lot of things she didn't know.
I am a Gen Z but I have never hated Jewish people and I love them like Gentiles. Same thing with Palestinian Arabs. I am a Gentile. My Dad says I am wise beyond my years in this stuff.
I really appreciate that Jeff explained "The Man" tactic. It instantly resonated with me. This has been going on in our politics for SUCH a long time. I remember shortly after 9/11 watching a Democrat and a Republican talk about an issue and the Republican (typically) would give reasons for his argument and the Democrat, (again typically, not in every case) would respond with name calling. I remember being really confused and shocked at how childish it was to use that tactic, and befuddled why the Democrat didn't have a legitimate response that was based in logic. I'm definitely not trying to pit parties against each other with this statement, it's just something I've noticed. I do believe that our politics has been heavily infiltrated with this this thinking.
I’m an independent and I have noticed that both sides do that and both sides will accuse the other side of doing things like that while doing it themselves.
30:30 The idea that 50% of casualties are combatants seems to be a very far fetched claim unless one simply assumes that all males who are teenage or older are combatants. The primary causes of death by direct violence are bombs and artillery and bombs are notoriously indiscriminate. Yes you may hit a legitimate combat target but you also will hit the places around the target as well that means you hit a lot of not combatants since Gaza is basically one of the most population dense places in the world. Another reason to question just how much care IDF is giving to avoiding civilian casualties is the number of aid workers killed - over 200 hundred killed(most of them UNRWA). Several organizations have pulled their people out because of it. Aid workers coordinate their movements with IDF - tell them where they are, where they are going, how they plan to get from A to B, what they are driving, and so on. If they are really being very meticulous in their targeting why so many attacks on aid workers?
Could you give more detail about the sources of your data. It would be very hard to gather such data unless we personally visit the area. The other option is to use media services but these are definitely polarised. Getting an unbiased view is very difficult. One thing does remain as strong evidence. I am referring to the attack on Israeli lands, the attack that started this off. Somehow all of this has been forgotten in the same way that a number of other attacks made upon the people living in Israel. Trying to avoid that discussion by refocussing on the alleged IDF actions indicates a problem with looking at all the evidence.
They are not assuming based on age and sex, but on who is actively combatting them. As far as the bombs go we have video evidence of how accurate their bombs are. I saw a video of men with rocket launchers being pulled on a cart behind a donkey. The bomb hit the cart and vaporized the three men and the donkey just walked away with half a cart behind it. They have also demonstrated the ability to drop a bomb on a building and only hit one room in one floor with the delayed explosion.
@@BlueGiantMediawhile they have demonstrated that ability, they also demonstrated how they could level entire residential buildings, your point means nothing if they are only aiming for precision, they’re not
@@Giljrnuno The fact that buildings were destroyed proves nothing. The IDF gives ample advanced warning and people get out. Hamas chooses to set up weapons caches and bases of operation in these civilian locations hoping to cause collateral damage and garner support from people like you. Hamas also steals the food and medical aid and literally barricades people in so they can die as martyrs. In Islam the only way to be certain you go to heaven is to be a martyr, and martyrs also help with public support. Hamas is the cause of the suffering of Gazans. They can surrender any second now and Gazans will be better off.
@@markbowman2890atrocities there go back decades. I remember in the recent past when an Israeli media outlet mentioned how decades ago the IDF (or what passed for the IDF then) discussed how they had poisoned some of the Palestinians' wells. I was shocked to read that! Since then it has been put into Google's "pretend it doesn't exist" file and is not easily findable online. However the "Wayback machine" may be able to locate that article. Basically it became apparent that the Israelis wanted the Palestinians (ALL of them!) dead or gone, one way or another.
I’m not finding a link to the free copy of Dr. Myers’ book here or on the podcast links. Did I miss it somewhere? Great conversation! I just keep remembering the verse, “If the world hates you, remember it hated Me first.” The core issue is the same as it’s always been: a hatred of God himself.
Alisa mentions the trope, "Jesus is the word of God, not the bible." 5:15 I agree with her criticism there, but think it applies also to the equally common trope, "Jesus is the rest, i.e., we no longer need the Sabbath." I think the argument Alisa makes applies in the same way to this second case. Generally Alisa seems to support a fairly literal reading of the bible, and doesn't shy away from difficult topics, but I'm not aware of her explaining why not a literal reading of the very explicit 4th commandment to keep the 7th day sabbath (as a Christian)?
I remember around the year 2000 in Arizona... seeing the mosque that had just been built at Arizona State... then I learned about the millions of dollars being poured into all of the big universities. shaping Middle East policy and worldview in general. I feel like I have been screaming into a vacuum for over 2 decades. this, like many other things is just a result of our educational system now going all the way down to the primary level.
This discussion really makes me wonder what people's faith is based on. It really sounds like it's based on academic knowledge or emotions. Where is the spiritual element? Also, in regards to definitions, it is Catholicism that is responsible for the historic Antisemitism and persecution, NOT Christianity. The two faiths are NOT the same and are only superficially similar.
The definition of anti-Semitism the the Dr. gives would make many Jews out to be anti-Semitic. Such a silly definition. Can't really take anything else he says as serious.
Actually your post is pretty shallow, therefore making you silly. I didn’t see you make any efforts to come up with a refutation, or any other definition challenging him. Don’t worry, no one will take your comment seriously.
@@lauraswartz9023 here is the real life definition, which is super easy to find. Anti-semitism::feeling or showing hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group. By making the definition about criticism against the nation of Israel you are actually diluting the word to mean nothing. There are many Jews around the world that despise what Israel does. Are those Jews anti-Semitic. Go ahead and think about it for a moment. Again, it's a very silly idea that no one should take seriously.
He had also just finished selling the same narrative on TBN, there are many Jews receiving death threats if they visibly protest Zionism, both in Israel and the United States.I doubt Alisa would be willing to invite one on the podcast.
@@lauraswartz9023 Just to add, antisemitism has been shifted (for political reasons) to refer to those who are critical of the Israeli gov's policies/response (and continued huge bombing of Gaza). A lot of people in the world hated the Oct 7 massacre, and also hated what they saw as the disproportionate response (International Courts). Semites were the occupants of Palestinian area - which included Jews, Arabs, Christians. They used to get on and lived together. Gaza was also a mix, which included Christians. I think changing the meaning of anti-semitism serves to gather all those who are sympathetic to Jews being the chosen, to them being treated so badly in the holocaust, and Christians who have some end times theology.... mainly a USA phenomena - this has been useful to keep support from the most powerful nation in the world. Language matters.
@@MartyMcFly1085 How about some compassion, MartyMcFly1085? White men are badly treated even in some Churches. Some of this cultural stuff is in Churches, too! White people are just as human as black people. We all come from Adam and Eve, and we are one race. I do not use race for various skin color, but people groups. The only difference between the races is the amount of melanin in our skin!. White people tend to come from northern countries where we do not have the intense sun. Black people are more from equatorial nations, and brown are closer to equator as well. I know some black people that have to take vitamins in the united States for lack of sunshine in winter. God meant for our skin color to match where we lived. We are all the human race!
From the time I was a kid I have revered Israel as God's chosen nation and engine for making history. But recently I have been so disappointed in Israel - bombing babies in Gaza and rushing to support the rape of Palestinian prisoners, not to mention the horrendous mistreatment of prisoners. It is like they have forgotten all about what is right and decent, not to mention the tragedy of Jewish people under Hitler. Thanks so much for this program.
Gee, seems like you’ve forgotten what the “poor Palestinians” did on 10/7, and all the Israeli hostage’s languishing in Gaza. Or you must be one of the following: an ignorant Christian devoid of any biblical understanding, a fan of the MSM and their slander, or a troll. Probably a troll because you forgot to mention the Israeli hostages, that alone is enough validation for Israel’s incursion into Gaza.
You mention Israel bombing babies and supporting r*pe. Gazans murdered babies in front of their parents and r*ped. The difference? Gazans in the street cheered the atrocities done on 10-7 and still continue to hold hostages. Israelis warn civilians and are prosecuting the soldiers accused of r*pe. Now let's be honest, what would happen to the Jews if all barriers were removed and Gazans repopulated the current state of Israel? We don't have to guess. They say they want the river to the see, proclaim the annihilation of the Jews, and have been committing genocide against Jews in the surrounding countries. And please don't tell me that Jews are colonizers. 1. Jews have lived in that land for centuries. 2. Half of all "Palestinians" are actually Egyptian immigrants who came to Israel after the diaspora arrived and started improving the land.
Great conversation overall and so important to talk about! I do just want to add regarding the comment that American soldiers couldn’t shoot unless shot at, is actually true and very real. I’m a trauma therapist for Veterans and that’s actually something that really bothers them about their deployments; when the rules of engagement changed and they couldn’t do anything unless directly hit essentially. It’s a little more nuanced than I can put in this comment, but it is a real thing
Thank you Alisa for yoyr insightful comments on the Last Supper in the French Olympics and how great offence was brought to Christianity and our spiritual belief system in the churches. Keep up the goid work Alisa.
How much of the problem in the West Bank is because of UNWRA? There were UNWRA employees involved in the October 7th attack. Are they completely captured Hamas?
As I scroll through the comments I notice one of the main differences between our churches belief and what is believed here. Our church believes that we are not spiritual Israel and covenants are all for Israel and Kingdom related which we be the kingdom to be a literal physical place which Jesus was offering but Israel rejected thus God put the offer on hold and ushered in the Pauline gospel of grace for whosoever will believe and after the rapture and after the 7 year tribulation the Kingdom happens for 1000 years. God promised it to Israel and God keeps his promises. Right now He is offering grace to whosoever will. 2Cor 5:18-21 is one passage that proves it.
I had to downvote this. I think you are twisting the facts. It isn't anti-semitism, it's standing against the murder of young Palestinian children. So you either advocate for the murder of Palestinian children or you deny that it's happening. Both of it is false.
@@timwood1987 I didn’t say they replaced Israel. I said it has always been true believers that are Israel. From Adam and Eve till today and when Jesus returns. I don’t have a single verse, but I know a book that explains it. It’s called “The Israel of God” by: O Palmer Robertson.
@@bondservant4jesus that’s the thing though, you have no Scriptural support for that statement. Israel didn’t start until Genesis 12 when God chose Abraham. I’m a British Gentile, by my faith in Christ I am a member of the commonwealth of Israel (Eph. 2:12), but that doesn’t mean that I’m part of Israel. Israel scripturally is a physical nation, the Jewish people, every reference in the Bible to Israel refers to the Jewish people, there are no references in the Scriptures where Israel means both Jews and Gentiles. Gentiles are not part of Israel. You say that you didn’t say that they replaced Israel but your implication is that the physical promises to the Jewish people have been nullified, and so there is replacement
@@timwood1987 The point is the book does give proof.It’s not a one verse proof of something. It is more intricate than that. Yes, the actual nation did not start until later. It the promises to Abraham would be a people as large as the sea and the stars in the skies, this is from ethnic Israel, a portion and all the who trusted in Messiah to come.
I just can't listen to these videos anymore. Too many commercials interrupting the content. They could at least be only at the beginning or end of them & not interrupting the content. I want to boycott anything that is advertised during an episode! 😤🤮
Alisa loves all people. She is a Christian. However, woke people like you do not want to give an inch and you hate Jews because you do not have Jesus Christ in your heart. You're not saved, or you would not hate Jewish people. I care about the Palestinians and love them, but I also do not understand why they allowed Hamas, a terrorist group to lead them. Gaza elected Hamas, a terrorist group, to be their leaders. This makes me less sympathetic for them, although I have repented and do pray that Jesus will save Palestinians and set them free from hating Jews and Christians.
Actually, the Paris Olympics opening tableaux was literally entitled La Céne sur la scéne sir la Seine translated as The scene of the Last Super on the Scéne River. Make no mistake of it's original intention. Check out Johnathan Pageau's take on the opening and it's symbolism.
In your history you left out the Treaty of San Remo which is the legal basis for both the modern state of Israel and the Arab states that were created after the fall of the Ottoman Empire
They only briefly touch on eschatology but I do think there’s a generational clash between older generations of Christians and younger generations when it comes to dispensationalism and the support of Israel. This video mainly concentrates on liberals not supporting Israel but this is also coming from many younger conservative Christians as well who tend to look down upon dispensationalism and who tend to be more post millennial in their eschatology. I don’t think Alisa and her guest quite understand this generational clash. They talk about social media apps like TikTok being antisemitic from a liberal standpoint but if you go on X/Twitter you can see some pretty terrible antisemitism from the other side. I’ve actually never seen so much antisemitism as I have seen on X/Twitter.
The people you're describing are actually the ones that concern me the most. I expect this behavior out of secular liberals who don't know the bible and don't really care. but a careful reading of the Word of God from Genesis to Revelation has actually caused me to love and respect the Jewish people more--not less.
@@impalaman9707why, for disobeying God century after century until He finally evicted them from the land, exactly as He said He would do?? And then, they rejected His Messiah, and spent 600 years creating a revised religion without a temple that mocks the Messiah, and claims in its holy book the Talmud that Jesus' mother Mary was a prostitute? What's to admire there? 🤔 Read what happened when Roman Emperor Julian the apostate offered to fund their temple rebuilding, it's rather interesting.
Thank you for this discussion. It was a breath of fresh air to my heart. Too many Christian leaders have come out so vehemently against the modern state of Israel and have claimed that the church has replaced the nation as Gods Chosen people. I so appreciated the theological break down in this conversation. Thank you so much for this broadcast. Thank you for too many reasons to list!
Jeff Durbin of Apologia Studios and Berean Bible Church have videos here on RUclips devoted to calling out “National Israel” as not being God’s people. They are in deep error.
So support of Israel is theological. No matter what Bibi does? In God's name? I would like Alisa to have another view presented on this, to give greater understanding. This is a biased interview.
Here's the thing - Our tax money and the many public pronouncements of unqualified support for one particular side by many US politicians and pundits exacerbates and perpetuate the conflict. Israel indeed has legitimate grips about a lot of factions of Palestinians, but because it has US Gov as its financial backer and implied military backer, the government of Israel does not need to negotiate in good faith and they do not need to recognize that the people in Gaza and the West Bank have their own legitimate gripes related to how the country was formed, and how they have been treated.
You need to watch the whole video. The Palestinians rejected statehood in 1948, 1967, 2000, and 2008. In 2000, they were given 97% of what they wanted, and they rejected it. They are the ones negotiating in bad faith.
I really appreciate your show and you. Would you say the generation of the holocaust globally would be the most antisemetic! Since no one would let the Jews into their country either. I am not sure it is possible to say one generation. Is worse than the other since historically the Jews have been horrifically persecuted. The word holocaust itself means a sacrifice in which the offering was burned completely on an altar.
We appreciate your work. Our family grew up Christian and still have many who still are. We can live, work and fight alongside of Christian and Jews although we haven’t been Christian for ten years. When it one day clicked about who the apostle Paul was and what he taught which is the revelation from God to Paul for the age of grace we found a Pauline pastor who was on track to have the largest southern Baptist church in Texas until he discovered Pauline and resigned because they rejected what Paul wrote. We still love our Christian, catholic and jewsish brothers and sisters but had to choose to become a Pauline. Our pastor Dr. Randy white in Taos is very involved with the same issues that are being talked about here on this channel. We have to bring awareness to what is and has happened to our world and our Judas Christian way of life. Keep up the good fight dear lady.
All Christians should, but the majority of Gen Z are probably not doing it for strictly Biblical reasons. The church today is woefully ignorant of both history and the Bible itself, that's why this stuff sells.
So good! Really helpful for those of us who have young adult children and can see how deceived they are! I am definitely getting this book! Thanks to you both!
Important topics, to be sure, but one of the most muddled presentations I have ever heard. Truly a disgrace for you, Alisa. Lies of propaganda?! Give me a break!!
Those who speak a septic language. Yiddish is not Semitic language. You do know right? Those claiming to be Jews in modern day Faux Israel are not speaking Hebrew. They speak European Askenazi yiddish.
You have shown yourself to be demonstrably mistaken. The average Israeli teen could read and understand the Old Testament because modern Hebrew was created from biblical Hebrew. Yiddish is not a primary language spoken in Israel.
You're missing the point. Jesus could trace lineage to the tribe of Judah. These fake Hebrews cannot. Everything they are is fake. And you bow at their feet like they hold God's timeline in their hands.
That's part of the indoctrination. Our God is NOT a god of confusion. Satan is & he is the one who started saying that the Jews aren't really Jews. What does it matter, even if they weren't? Does that make it ok to wipe out a whole ethnic group of people?! 🤔 Get outta here with that 'black hebrew israelite' bs!
They are Semitic. I am one percent Jewish. I found out by my DNA, and I am one percent Semitic. This means I come from Shem. Jews come from Shem, as well as many other Semitic peoples. We all come from either Shem, Ham, or Japeth and their wives. I'm sick of Jewish people being treated so harshly. Even before I found out about how I'm part Jewish. Jesus is Jewish. Remember this if you call yourself a Christian. If you are oppressing Jews, you are oppressing Christ's race. He might have had disagreements with them, but in the end many will return to Him and accept Him as their Messiah. He does not want Christians hurting any people group, and even more so if they are Jewish!
They are partially, but the true irony concerning the situation is that from a hereditary and linguistic perspective they are less semitic than many other people groups in the region, especially the Palestinians. I don't wish harm to any of them, but this becomes more of a Rightwing version of the Black Lives Matter movement having such a problem with the Biblical All Lives Matter response. Regardless of nation states and national borders, more care must be insisted upon that protects non-combatants.
I’m wondering why you don’t highlight any of the “delusions “ and just name call without identifying yourself fully? Sounds like you have nothing of substance to say
@@wayneburma6906 Its what liberals do all the time. They resort to name calling without giving examples as to how they came to that conclusion. Like throwing out the term "Xenophobe" or "Zionist" without showing how they are either
Totally agree. Resist outrage. Anger is not good. Rarely if ever is it righteous. Not Dionysius. Christ is attacked because Christianity and Christ are true and good and real.
Israel is not only fighting for their own survival, but for the whole world's safety! I am so proud of them. I continue to pray for ALL involved, but KNOW that God will see them victorious because they are fighting a 'Just/Righteous War'!! (Let alone prophetic!) 😊
Don't forget the prophets, genius - And the Lord said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Jeremiah 11:9 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him. And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that judged us, by bringing upon us a great evil: for under the whole heaven hath not been done as hath been done upon Jerusalem. Daniel 9:11-12 Hear this word which I take up against you, a lamentation, O house of Israel. Amos 5:1 Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the well-favored harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts. Behold, I am against thee, saith the Lord of hosts: and I will discover thy skirts upon thy face, and I will show the nations thy nakedness, and the kingdoms thy shame. And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and will set thee as a gazingstock. Nahum 3:4-6 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations. And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations. Ezekiel 5:8 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth. Therefore hath the Lord watched upon the evil, and brought it upon us: for the Lord our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we obeyed not his voice. Daniel 9:13-14 And Moses said unto Aaron, What did this people unto thee, that thou hast brought so great a sin upon them? Exodus 32:21 Yet many years didst thou forbear them, and testified against them by thy spirit in thy prophets: yet would they not give ear: therefore gavest thou them into the hand of the people of the lands. Nehemiah 9:30 For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, they turn aside the poor in the gate. Amos 5:12 Be ye not as your fathers, unto whom the former prophets have cried, saying, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Turn ye now from your evil ways, and your evil doings: but they did not hear, nor hearken unto me, saith the Lord. Zechariah 1:4 For the punishment of the iniquity of the daughter of my people is greater than the punishment of the sin of Sodom, that was overthrown as in a moment, and no hands stayed her. Lamentations 4:6 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. Isaiah 1:4-5 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin. Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity. They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity. Micah 3:8-10 And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, unto this very day. For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shat say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God. And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they are a rebellious house) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them. And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briars and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, not be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house. And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious. Ezekiel 2:3-7 We have sinned, and committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land. Daniel 9:5 Hear this word that the Lord has spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Amos 3:1-2 O Israel, return unto the Lord thy God; for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity. Hosea 14:1 The Lord hath been sore displeased with your fathers. Zechariah 1:2 But thou hast utterly rejected us; thou art very wroth against us. Lamentations 5:22
Howbeit thou art just in all that is brought upon us; for thou hast done right, but we have done wickedly. Nehemiah 9:33
Christian even ,not all,love and respect Jesus(PBUH), Jews they suppose love and respect Moses(PBUH), but Muslim all Muslims respect and love all Messengers and Prophets of Allah(God). Allah Messengers and Prophets are but not limited to Adam, Idris(Enoch), Noah, Hood, Add, Ishmael, Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed. For Muslim they are all equal they are loved and respected.
Many of us would love to engage with you, respectfully. Very difficult to offer without seeming like I am selling something and being dismissed. Censorship is really bad on RUclips as well.
Gen Z does not listen. The new generation, the Alpha's I minister to at children's ministry, are very sweet children, and they do not act as crazy and Generation Z. Gen Z is warped and needs psychological help. You hate Jews, whites, and any other group that has money. You think you should be rich and want them to die so you can take their money. You want a communist government, and to be part of the party. You will only be the new oppressor that you object to Israel or American whites as being now.
Unfortunately by ”conversation” most non Christians just want to dictate. It goes something like, “you’ve historically had your time to speak, so shut up and listen to the people who haven’t been able to.”
Great conversation overall and so important to talk about! I do just want to add regarding the comment that American soldiers couldn’t shoot unless shot at, is actually true and very real. I’m a trauma therapist for Veterans and that’s actually something that really bothers them about their deployments; when the rules of engagement changed and they couldn’t do anything unless directly hit essentially. It’s a little more nuanced than I can put in this comment, but it is a real thing
I have never understood American Christians fawning over Israel.
When I see that only 9% of the self-proclaimed Christians hold a biblical world view, I know that narrow is the gate to salvation. If I try to evangelize, I'd get and have gotten viciously attacked, cancelled, and censored.😭 Maranatha!🙏
If you are getting your data from Barna, that number is down to 4% from 6% preCOVID. Worse only 37% of clergy have a biblical worldview. The numbers are scary.
9% is the number who might be saved. But that was when 6% had a biblical worldview.
We shouldn't base our foreign policy off of the prophecies from a bronze age religion
"To find out who rules over you look at who you cannot criticize."
The video cited the survey results that 60% of Gen Z said the October 7 massacre by Hamas was justified. That seems to go beyond criticizing, doesn't it?
The thing I don’t understand is the definition of antisemitism as “not supporting the state of Israel”. I would think the definition would be racism against the Jewish people, not support for a government…
But denying their right to have a state is also attacking the people who are the people of that nation. Especially if you read the Bible. The majority of the Bible from Joshua on through at least the Gospels are within the borders of modern Israel. The rest of the Bible happens within the regions we know as the Middle East and Southern Europe (Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, Greece, and Italy)
Without a country the Jews are not safe, since forever we have been targeted around the world. The idea of living in Israel is having a safe space. Therefore, saying Jews shouldn’t have a safe space in their own country is antisemitism.
Exercising nuance in specific policy is fine. Supporting positions that do not allow Israel to defend her borders and civilians, and positions that threaten Israel's existence are antisemitic.
@@johnvahl762So should the US give the country back to the Natives?
@@jackcarraway4707 The Jews have no home but Israel. There are so many Arab states and vast land the Arabs have. What the Jews have is a fraction of their ancestoral homeland. Jews in other countries are victimized and told to go home. Lastly Arab Israelis have the same rights as their fellow Jews. Arabs can stay in Israel but it needs to be a Jewish state. I can't go to Japan and demand that they make it South African where I come from and that is what is happening with this conflict in Israel where they want the Jewish state to cease to exist. Germans, French, English, Irish have they own state. Why is it a problem for the Jew??
Israeli viewer. Thank you so much for this interview Alisa and Dr. Jeff. Of all the points Dr. Jeff made I want to affirm what he said about how the IDF identifies Hamas, as those who shoot at them. This is so true and its not lost on the population, moms in particular, that we have a higher fatality rate in the IDF because of this. I appreciate so much that he just outrightly told everyone here. I can't praise this interview enough.
I wouldn't say this is a Gen Z thing but just a younger generation thing after more people from Islamic countries have been in America
Like a post 9/11, realize the war in Iraq was a mistake, distrust any involvement in the Middle East effect
I usually agree with your concerns, but you are labeling an issue antisemitism when it's really about an apartheid and human rights. I was raised Catholic, then Born Again in college. I learned the Baptist teaching for years, specifically dispensationalism. I've learned since from good preachers that the New Covenant theology is biblical. It does teach that Jews were God's chosen people in the old testament/ covenant. But when Jesus came, died and resurrected he taught his apostles that the chosen people were the Christians, that is anyone who trusted Jesus as savior. It says in the Bible that the NT there is no difference between Jew or Gentile. So how can Jews be a chosen people any longer. If they trust Jesus, then they are part of the royal priesthood. Jesus said in the NT that he would take away the nation from the Jews and give it to a people producing fruit. That would be Christians, the new Israel and Jews and any race can be a part of the faith promise of salvation as Abraham was in Genesis. The reason evangelicals think antisemitism is a thing, is because they don't want to take their focus off of the modern state of Israel and focus on Jesus the NT Israel of God. Also thousands of Jews and Holocaust survivors don't support the modern state of Israel. They say it is zionism which does not even believe in God. AIPAC American Israel Public Affairs Committee has all to do with the promotion of Israel in this country. The Congress is paid off, except for some. Thomas Massie is an admirable Republican representative who doesn't support Israel and has no AIPAC buddy. You really need to research and study your Bible and not listen to the popular evangelical and MSM narrative. I didn't realize all this til I read the Bible just as Jesus Christ words were on the page. Not with a bias Israel slant. Scofield and Darby twisted theology with their dispensational false teaching. All the faithful preachers interpreted the Bible up til the 1800 century as the new covenant theology and didn't focus on a modern Israel.
You are as biased as everyone else you accused to be biased. You realise that, right? You are biased against Israel and it’s as bad as the other party, if you will. Read also your Bible. Jesus ever cried for Jerusalem representing the Israelites. He loved them the same from time immemorial until today. Unlike humans, God can love people the same while having His choosing. God has chosen you to do things that you do. I don’t see any contradiction in God’s word. But you did
Amen and amen
Earlier Christians talked about sending Jews back to Israel.
Which Native American tribe was displaced so that your ancestors could live wherever they do?
@@blusky7 not antisemitism. Tearing down the idol is not nessecarily a hatred of what the idol represents but rather the love of the idol over God.
Luke 14:7-24
Mathew 3 :7-12
Hebrews 11
Jonah 3
Galatians 3
Romans 4:1-18
Gen 3:14-15
Scripture is clear, from the beggining we are saved by faith. Jesus was prophesied in Genesis. Romans 11:25-26 does not mean that all of Israel will be saved in the end. Read the whole chapter more clearly and plainly and its meaning is much simpler. God has not abandoned or forgotten Israel nor any covenant, the stubborness of Isrsel has worked unto thier nation a stubborness for generations that will be lifted just before the day of judgement. There is no need to worship any nation, rather always pray for thier repentance. This is what saddens me, christians going to Israel for vacations rather than mission trips as if they are in the land of saints when in reality they are surrounded by the lost.
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below?
Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary.
God is not now a "racist". He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son's blood at Calvary. There is no Plan B of salvation based on race in the New Testament. The Apostle Paul warned against using "genealogies" in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4 and Titus 3:9.
Go to Gaza City and spend some time with our Christian Brothers and Sisters in Christ, if you want to understand what it means to be threatened. Why were two unarmed Christian women shot by Israeli snipers while going to the toilet at their church in Gaza? Why were Christians killed while they were taking shelter at their 800-year-old church in Gaza City, when an IDF bomb hit beside their church? How many of their homes have been turned to rubble? How would you feel if armed drones were constantly flying overhead, while you are without food? Why was Palestinian-American journalist Shireen Abu-Akieh shot by the IDF before October 7th? These people were not killed by Hamas. Why have these people been ignored by most Christians in the U.S.? Are the Christians being killed in Gaza “Semites”?
Amen
Why did Hamas take hostages in the first place?
@@americandropbear5081 because this is the longest religious war in all of history. Hamas' feelings towards Israel and religious Israels feelings towards Palestinians are equal. However if Israel behaves towards Palestinians the way that Hamas behaves towards Israel then they lose western support. It is the west that is protecting and arming Israel and they dare not risk losing that support so they are more careful because the entire middle east will destroy them the second that the west disowns them. The goal is cleanse the land of infidels, the problem of course is that infidels is a reletive term.
@@americandropbear5081 but, did they? Yes, I realize that Israeli media claimed they did, but Israeli media claims a great many things which are certainly not all true. That's no different than our own media.
I have a pet theory that older generations grew up seeing Israel as an underdog...a homeland for a people who had just been put through the holocaust and who had to spend years fighting against countries that wanted to destroy them. Younger generations grew up with Israel being the top dog (at least in the region), with a well-trained military and backed by the money and technology of the USA, which makes them less sympathetic.
SO disappointed that all of my comments in the Live Chat seem to have been censored. Alisa apparently prefers it that way, but she would learn a lot of things she didn't know.
I am a Gen Z but I have never hated Jewish people and I love them like Gentiles. Same thing with Palestinian Arabs.
I am a Gentile. My Dad says I am wise beyond my years in this stuff.
I really appreciate that Jeff explained "The Man" tactic. It instantly resonated with me. This has been going on in our politics for SUCH a long time. I remember shortly after 9/11 watching a Democrat and a Republican talk about an issue and the Republican (typically) would give reasons for his argument and the Democrat, (again typically, not in every case) would respond with name calling. I remember being really confused and shocked at how childish it was to use that tactic, and befuddled why the Democrat didn't have a legitimate response that was based in logic. I'm definitely not trying to pit parties against each other with this statement, it's just something I've noticed. I do believe that our politics has been heavily infiltrated with this this thinking.
Are you aware Israel was involved in 9/11?
I’m an independent and I have noticed that both sides do that and both sides will accuse the other side of doing things like that while doing it themselves.
30:30 The idea that 50% of casualties are combatants seems to be a very far fetched claim unless one simply assumes that all males who are teenage or older are combatants.
The primary causes of death by direct violence are bombs and artillery and bombs are notoriously indiscriminate. Yes you may hit a legitimate combat target but you also will hit the places around the target as well that means you hit a lot of not combatants since Gaza is basically one of the most population dense places in the world.
Another reason to question just how much care IDF is giving to avoiding civilian casualties is the number of aid workers killed - over 200 hundred killed(most of them UNRWA). Several organizations have pulled their people out because of it.
Aid workers coordinate their movements with IDF - tell them where they are, where they are going, how they plan to get from A to B, what they are driving, and so on.
If they are really being very meticulous in their targeting why so many attacks on aid workers?
Could you give more detail about the sources of your data. It would be very hard to gather such data unless we personally visit the area. The other option is to use media services but these are definitely polarised. Getting an unbiased view is very difficult. One thing does remain as strong evidence. I am referring to the attack on Israeli lands, the attack that started this off. Somehow all of this has been forgotten in the same way that a number of other attacks made upon the people living in Israel. Trying to avoid that discussion by refocussing on the alleged IDF actions indicates a problem with looking at all the evidence.
They are not assuming based on age and sex, but on who is actively combatting them.
As far as the bombs go we have video evidence of how accurate their bombs are. I saw a video of men with rocket launchers being pulled on a cart behind a donkey. The bomb hit the cart and vaporized the three men and the donkey just walked away with half a cart behind it. They have also demonstrated the ability to drop a bomb on a building and only hit one room in one floor with the delayed explosion.
@@BlueGiantMediawhile they have demonstrated that ability, they also demonstrated how they could level entire residential buildings, your point means nothing if they are only aiming for precision, they’re not
@@Giljrnuno The fact that buildings were destroyed proves nothing. The IDF gives ample advanced warning and people get out. Hamas chooses to set up weapons caches and bases of operation in these civilian locations hoping to cause collateral damage and garner support from people like you. Hamas also steals the food and medical aid and literally barricades people in so they can die as martyrs. In Islam the only way to be certain you go to heaven is to be a martyr, and martyrs also help with public support. Hamas is the cause of the suffering of Gazans. They can surrender any second now and Gazans will be better off.
@@markbowman2890atrocities there go back decades. I remember in the recent past when an Israeli media outlet mentioned how decades ago the IDF (or what passed for the IDF then) discussed how they had poisoned some of the Palestinians' wells. I was shocked to read that! Since then it has been put into Google's "pretend it doesn't exist" file and is not easily findable online. However the "Wayback machine" may be able to locate that article. Basically it became apparent that the Israelis wanted the Palestinians (ALL of them!) dead or gone, one way or another.
What is the ancient history of the Jews in Israel? People tend to only go back to their return in the 40's, then begin accusing them from that time.
I’m not finding a link to the free copy of Dr. Myers’ book here or on the podcast links. Did I miss it somewhere? Great conversation! I just keep remembering the verse, “If the world hates you, remember it hated Me first.” The core issue is the same as it’s always been: a hatred of God himself.
Alisa mentions the trope, "Jesus is the word of God, not the bible." 5:15 I agree with her criticism there, but think it applies also to the equally common trope, "Jesus is the rest, i.e., we no longer need the Sabbath." I think the argument Alisa makes applies in the same way to this second case. Generally Alisa seems to support a fairly literal reading of the bible, and doesn't shy away from difficult topics, but I'm not aware of her explaining why not a literal reading of the very explicit 4th commandment to keep the 7th day sabbath (as a Christian)?
I remember around the year 2000 in Arizona... seeing the mosque that had just been built at Arizona State... then I learned about the millions of dollars being poured into all of the big universities. shaping Middle East policy and worldview in general. I feel like I have been screaming into a vacuum for over 2 decades. this, like many other things is just a result of our educational system now going all the way down to the primary level.
Iis the book link in here?
This discussion really makes me wonder what people's faith is based on. It really sounds like it's based on academic knowledge or emotions. Where is the spiritual element? Also, in regards to definitions, it is Catholicism that is responsible for the historic Antisemitism and persecution, NOT Christianity. The two faiths are NOT the same and are only superficially similar.
Protestants were just as antisemitic in the past as Catholics were.
The definition of anti-Semitism the the Dr. gives would make many Jews out to be anti-Semitic. Such a silly definition. Can't really take anything else he says as serious.
Actually your post is pretty shallow, therefore making you silly. I didn’t see you make any efforts to come up with a refutation, or any other definition challenging him. Don’t worry, no one will take your comment seriously.
The ADL's proposed definition would explicitly label parts of the scripture to be "Anti-Semitic."
@@lauraswartz9023 here is the real life definition, which is super easy to find. Anti-semitism::feeling or showing hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a cultural, racial, or ethnic group.
By making the definition about criticism against the nation of Israel you are actually diluting the word to mean nothing. There are many Jews around the world that despise what Israel does. Are those Jews anti-Semitic. Go ahead and think about it for a moment. Again, it's a very silly idea that no one should take seriously.
He had also just finished selling the same narrative on TBN, there are many Jews receiving death threats if they visibly protest Zionism, both in Israel and the United States.I doubt Alisa would be willing to invite one on the podcast.
@@lauraswartz9023 Just to add, antisemitism has been shifted (for political reasons) to refer to those who are critical of the Israeli gov's policies/response (and continued huge bombing of Gaza). A lot of people in the world hated the Oct 7 massacre, and also hated what they saw as the disproportionate response (International Courts). Semites were the occupants of Palestinian area - which included Jews, Arabs, Christians. They used to get on and lived together. Gaza was also a mix, which included Christians.
I think changing the meaning of anti-semitism serves to gather all those who are sympathetic to Jews being the chosen, to them being treated so badly in the holocaust, and Christians who have some end times theology.... mainly a USA phenomena - this has been useful to keep support from the most powerful nation in the world.
Language matters.
Please give an update on your views on Gavin Ortlund's mistreatment by your guest Megan Basham.
The amount of anti-semitism in gen Z is minuscule compared to the amount of anti-whiteism.
I don't care what language you speak, the god of Abraham is evil.
I wouldn't say it's miniscule. They're both a problem.
Are you a white man, John Brown? I would bet my chips that you are, I will get out and play my tiny violin 🎻 I hope everything works out
@@MartyMcFly1085 You're proving my point! And by the way, I'm mixed race, not that that should make a difference.
@@MartyMcFly1085 How about some compassion, MartyMcFly1085? White men are badly treated even in some Churches. Some of this cultural stuff is in Churches, too! White people are just as human as black people. We all come from Adam and Eve, and we are one race. I do not use race for various skin color, but people groups. The only difference between the races is the amount of melanin in our skin!. White people tend to come from northern countries where we do not have the intense sun. Black people are more from equatorial nations, and brown are closer to equator as well. I know some black people that have to take vitamins in the united States for lack of sunshine in winter. God meant for our skin color to match where we lived. We are all the human race!
From the time I was a kid I have revered Israel as God's chosen nation and engine for making history. But recently I have been so disappointed in Israel - bombing babies in Gaza and rushing to support the rape of Palestinian prisoners, not to mention the horrendous mistreatment of prisoners. It is like they have forgotten all about what is right and decent, not to mention the tragedy of Jewish people under Hitler. Thanks so much for this program.
Gee, seems like you’ve forgotten what the “poor Palestinians” did on 10/7, and all the Israeli hostage’s languishing in Gaza. Or you must be one of the following: an ignorant Christian devoid of any biblical understanding, a fan of the MSM and their slander, or a troll. Probably a troll because you forgot to mention the Israeli hostages, that alone is enough validation for Israel’s incursion into Gaza.
Please watch other news than American. 🙏
You mention Israel bombing babies and supporting r*pe. Gazans murdered babies in front of their parents and r*ped. The difference? Gazans in the street cheered the atrocities done on 10-7 and still continue to hold hostages. Israelis warn civilians and are prosecuting the soldiers accused of r*pe.
Now let's be honest, what would happen to the Jews if all barriers were removed and Gazans repopulated the current state of Israel? We don't have to guess. They say they want the river to the see, proclaim the annihilation of the Jews, and have been committing genocide against Jews in the surrounding countries.
And please don't tell me that Jews are colonizers.
1. Jews have lived in that land for centuries.
2. Half of all "Palestinians" are actually Egyptian immigrants who came to Israel after the diaspora arrived and started improving the land.
Wait till you hear about what American soldiers did in Vietnam.
Revelation 2:9
Great conversation overall and so important to talk about! I do just want to add regarding the comment that American soldiers couldn’t shoot unless shot at, is actually true and very real. I’m a trauma therapist for Veterans and that’s actually something that really bothers them about their deployments; when the rules of engagement changed and they couldn’t do anything unless directly hit essentially. It’s a little more nuanced than I can put in this comment, but it is a real thing
Thank you Alisa for yoyr insightful comments on the Last Supper in the French Olympics and how great offence was brought to Christianity and our spiritual belief system in the churches. Keep up the goid work Alisa.
How much of the problem in the West Bank is because of UNWRA? There were UNWRA employees involved in the October 7th attack. Are they completely captured Hamas?
That was proven to be utter rubbish.
As I scroll through the comments I notice one of the main differences between our churches belief and what is believed here. Our church believes that we are not spiritual Israel and covenants are all for Israel and Kingdom related which we be the kingdom to be a literal physical place which Jesus was offering but Israel rejected thus God put the offer on hold and ushered in the Pauline gospel of grace for whosoever will believe and after the rapture and after the 7 year tribulation the Kingdom happens for 1000 years. God promised it to Israel and God keeps his promises. Right now He is offering grace to whosoever will. 2Cor 5:18-21 is one passage that proves it.
I had to downvote this. I think you are twisting the facts. It isn't anti-semitism, it's standing against the murder of young Palestinian children. So you either advocate for the murder of Palestinian children or you deny that it's happening. Both of it is false.
I really want to watch all of this channel's content, but the constant promos are really annoying.
36 minutes. Why are you not interested in 'thou shalt not kill'?
True Israel are all the believers through out history, whether Jew or other people.
Do you believe unicorns too?
What is your Scriptural basis to say that the Church has replaced Israel as the "true Israel?" I assume Romans 9:6 and Galatians 6:16?
@@timwood1987 I didn’t say they replaced Israel. I said it has always been true believers that are Israel. From Adam and Eve till today and when Jesus returns. I don’t have a single verse, but I know a book that explains it. It’s called “The Israel of God” by: O Palmer Robertson.
@@bondservant4jesus that’s the thing though, you have no Scriptural support for that statement. Israel didn’t start until Genesis 12 when God chose Abraham. I’m a British Gentile, by my faith in Christ I am a member of the commonwealth of Israel (Eph. 2:12), but that doesn’t mean that I’m part of Israel. Israel scripturally is a physical nation, the Jewish people, every reference in the Bible to Israel refers to the Jewish people, there are no references in the Scriptures where Israel means both Jews and Gentiles. Gentiles are not part of Israel.
You say that you didn’t say that they replaced Israel but your implication is that the physical promises to the Jewish people have been nullified, and so there is replacement
@@timwood1987 The point is the book does give proof.It’s not a one verse proof of something. It is more intricate than that. Yes, the actual nation did not start until later. It the promises to Abraham would be a people as large as the sea and the stars in the skies, this is from ethnic Israel, a portion and all the who trusted in Messiah to come.
I just can't listen to these videos anymore. Too many commercials interrupting the content. They could at least be only at the beginning or end of them & not interrupting the content. I want to boycott anything that is advertised during an episode! 😤🤮
How about you pray for the Palestinian children, Alisa? I’ve never heard you mention them, I’m sure this is an accidental oversight
I doubt very highly you've ever even listened to any of her shows in full. Give me a break
Alisa loves all people. She is a Christian. However, woke people like you do not want to give an inch and you hate Jews because you do not have Jesus Christ in your heart. You're not saved, or you would not hate Jewish people. I care about the Palestinians and love them, but I also do not understand why they allowed Hamas, a terrorist group to lead them. Gaza elected Hamas, a terrorist group, to be their leaders. This makes me less sympathetic for them, although I have repented and do pray that Jesus will save Palestinians and set them free from hating Jews and Christians.
What exactly is anti-semitism? What about Matthew 8:10-12. Was Jesus being anti-semetic? What about the Christian Gazan and Lebanese?
What is it that they and/or the textbooks teach in jr. high and high school World History?
Actually, the Paris Olympics opening tableaux was literally entitled La Céne sur la scéne sir la Seine translated as The scene of the Last Super on the Scéne River. Make no mistake of it's original intention. Check out Johnathan Pageau's take on the opening and it's symbolism.
In your history you left out the Treaty of San Remo which is the legal basis for both the modern state of Israel and the Arab states that were created after the fall of the Ottoman Empire
No one is above criticism. We all sin and do things wrong. It is being called anti Semitic to criticize or point out something being done isn't right.
They only briefly touch on eschatology but I do think there’s a generational clash between older generations of Christians and younger generations when it comes to dispensationalism and the support of Israel. This video mainly concentrates on liberals not supporting Israel but this is also coming from many younger conservative Christians as well who tend to look down upon dispensationalism and who tend to be more post millennial in their eschatology. I don’t think Alisa and her guest quite understand this generational clash. They talk about social media apps like TikTok being antisemitic from a liberal standpoint but if you go on X/Twitter you can see some pretty terrible antisemitism from the other side. I’ve actually never seen so much antisemitism as I have seen on X/Twitter.
The people you're describing are actually the ones that concern me the most. I expect this behavior out of secular liberals who don't know the bible and don't really care. but a careful reading of the Word of God from Genesis to Revelation has actually caused me to love and respect the Jewish people more--not less.
@@impalaman9707why, for disobeying God century after century until He finally evicted them from the land, exactly as He said He would do?? And then, they rejected His Messiah, and spent 600 years creating a revised religion without a temple that mocks the Messiah, and claims in its holy book the Talmud that Jesus' mother Mary was a prostitute? What's to admire there? 🤔 Read what happened when Roman Emperor Julian the apostate offered to fund their temple rebuilding, it's rather interesting.
Thank you for this discussion. It was a breath of fresh air to my heart. Too many Christian leaders have come out so vehemently against the modern state of Israel and have claimed that the church has replaced the nation as Gods Chosen people. I so appreciated the theological break down in this conversation. Thank you so much for this broadcast. Thank you for too many reasons to list!
Which leaders if you mind me asking?
Jeff Durbin of Apologia Studios and Berean Bible Church have videos here on RUclips devoted to calling out “National Israel” as not being God’s people. They are in deep error.
@@lauraswartz9023how are they in deep error, but not you? Who is Israel? Who is the vine? Who is God’s holy chose nation?
So support of Israel is theological. No matter what Bibi does? In God's name? I would like Alisa to have another view presented on this, to give greater understanding. This is a biased interview.
Does that qualify as being vehemently against the modern state of Israel? Asking @lauraswartz9023
Here's the thing - Our tax money and the many public pronouncements of unqualified support for one particular side by many US politicians and pundits exacerbates and perpetuate the conflict.
Israel indeed has legitimate grips about a lot of factions of Palestinians, but because it has US Gov as its financial backer and implied military backer, the government of Israel does not need to negotiate in good faith and they do not need to recognize that the people in Gaza and the West Bank have their own legitimate gripes related to how the country was formed, and how they have been treated.
You need to watch the whole video. The Palestinians rejected statehood in 1948, 1967, 2000, and 2008. In 2000, they were given 97% of what they wanted, and they rejected it. They are the ones negotiating in bad faith.
Persecution will increase. Jesus said they persecuted me they will persecute you. Good response.
Yech, Kamala piggypacked a plea for $ on the front of this/your video! I don't pay for YT, so that's the kind of yuk I have to put up with.
My 2 adult sons are in the 15% who attended Summit, were so excited about it after attending, but who now no longer believe. 💔 😢
I’m sorry to hear that my heart goes out to you
@@HKduane Thank you.
@@nutricoach7947 your welcome
I really appreciate your show and you. Would you say the generation of the holocaust globally would be the most antisemetic! Since no one would let the Jews into their country either. I am not sure it is possible to say one generation. Is worse than the other since historically the Jews have been horrifically persecuted. The word holocaust itself means a sacrifice in which the offering was burned completely on an altar.
We appreciate your work. Our family grew up Christian and still have many who still are. We can live, work and fight alongside of Christian and Jews although we haven’t been Christian for ten years. When it one day clicked about who the apostle Paul was and what he taught which is the revelation from God to Paul for the age of grace we found a Pauline pastor who was on track to have the largest southern Baptist church in Texas until he discovered Pauline and resigned because they rejected what Paul wrote. We still love our Christian, catholic and jewsish brothers and sisters but had to choose to become a Pauline. Our pastor Dr. Randy white in Taos is very involved with the same issues that are being talked about here on this channel. We have to bring awareness to what is and has happened to our world and our Judas Christian way of life. Keep up the good fight dear lady.
A Bible Story is Going on in Israel as well as the rest of the world alway Remember the King of the Jews
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Thank you for this factual conversation. 🇮🇱🇺🇸🙏🙏
Great show with Dr. Jeff Myers who is very knowledgeable on issues applying a historical and biblical perspetive.
Apologies to Gavin Ortlan
What does Gavin Ortland have to do with this conversation?
So the younger generation rejects the Synagogue of Satan, wierd.
Seriously
All Christians should, but the majority of Gen Z are probably not doing it for strictly Biblical reasons. The church today is woefully ignorant of both history and the Bible itself, that's why this stuff sells.
Which side is defacing American monuments, shutting down airports, setting fire to buildings and vandalizing houses of worship?
@@benjaminhoward4630 I agree
So good! Really helpful for those of us who have young adult children and can see how deceived they are! I am definitely getting this book! Thanks to you both!
10:27! Spot on! Thank you for this discussion. So relevant.
Important topics, to be sure, but one of the most muddled presentations I have ever heard. Truly a disgrace for you, Alisa. Lies of propaganda?! Give me a break!!
Those who speak a septic language. Yiddish is not Semitic language. You do know right? Those claiming to be Jews in modern day Faux Israel are not speaking Hebrew. They speak European Askenazi yiddish.
Neither did Jesus. He spoke Aramaic. Big deal.
Actually they speak a resurrected form of Hebrew in the modern state of Israel.
You have shown yourself to be demonstrably mistaken. The average Israeli teen could read and understand the Old Testament because modern Hebrew was created from biblical Hebrew. Yiddish is not a primary language spoken in Israel.
You're missing the point. Jesus could trace lineage to the tribe of Judah. These fake Hebrews cannot. Everything they are is fake. And you bow at their feet like they hold God's timeline in their hands.
Ofra Haza?
Those claiming to be Jews are not Semites.
That's part of the indoctrination. Our God is NOT a god of confusion. Satan is & he is the one who started saying that the Jews aren't really Jews. What does it matter, even if they weren't? Does that make it ok to wipe out a whole ethnic group of people?! 🤔 Get outta here with that 'black hebrew israelite' bs!
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What is a semite?
They are Semitic. I am one percent Jewish. I found out by my DNA, and I am one percent Semitic. This means I come from Shem. Jews come from Shem, as well as many other Semitic peoples. We all come from either Shem, Ham, or Japeth and their wives. I'm sick of Jewish people being treated so harshly. Even before I found out about how I'm part Jewish. Jesus is Jewish. Remember this if you call yourself a Christian. If you are oppressing Jews, you are oppressing Christ's race. He might have had disagreements with them, but in the end many will return to Him and accept Him as their Messiah. He does not want Christians hurting any people group, and even more so if they are Jewish!
They are partially, but the true irony concerning the situation is that from a hereditary and linguistic perspective they are less semitic than many other people groups in the region, especially the Palestinians. I don't wish harm to any of them, but this becomes more of a Rightwing version of the Black Lives Matter movement having such a problem with the Biblical All Lives Matter response. Regardless of nation states and national borders, more care must be insisted upon that protects non-combatants.
The delusion is so strong with these two its SAD.
I’m wondering why you don’t highlight any of the “delusions “ and just name call without identifying yourself fully? Sounds like you have nothing of substance to say
@@wayneburma6906 Its what liberals do all the time. They resort to name calling without giving examples as to how they came to that conclusion. Like throwing out the term "Xenophobe" or "Zionist" without showing how they are either
thank you mam
Totally agree. Resist outrage. Anger is not good. Rarely if ever is it righteous. Not Dionysius. Christ is attacked because Christianity and Christ are true and good and real.
Israel is not only fighting for their own survival, but for the whole world's safety! I am so proud of them. I continue to pray for ALL involved, but KNOW that God will see them victorious because they are fighting a 'Just/Righteous War'!! (Let alone prophetic!) 😊
You have been so indoctrinated. How is Israel “surviving” and how is the whole world not safe just because Israel has enemies?
Very helpful!
I’m Gen Z & I Stand With Israel! 🇮🇱🙌🏻
Pray 🙏 for the Jewish People the Apple of His Eye, they need our prayers
Beautiful!! 🌈🦄 😻
christians cant sin
Don't forget the prophets, genius - And the Lord said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem. Jeremiah 11:9
Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him. And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that judged us, by bringing upon us a great evil: for under the whole heaven hath not been done as hath been done upon Jerusalem. Daniel 9:11-12
Hear this word which I take up against you, a lamentation, O house of Israel. Amos 5:1
Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the well-favored harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts. Behold, I am against thee, saith the Lord of hosts: and I will discover thy skirts upon thy face, and I will show the nations thy nakedness, and the kingdoms thy shame. And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and will set thee as a gazingstock. Nahum 3:4-6
Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, am against thee, and will execute judgments in the midst of thee in the sight of the nations. And I will do in thee that which I have not done, and whereunto I will not do any more the like, because of all thine abominations. Ezekiel 5:8
As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth. Therefore hath the Lord watched upon the evil, and brought it upon us: for the Lord our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we obeyed not his voice. Daniel 9:13-14
And Moses said unto Aaron, What did this people unto thee, that thou hast brought so great a sin upon them? Exodus 32:21
Yet many years didst thou forbear them, and testified against them by thy spirit in thy prophets: yet would they not give ear: therefore gavest thou them into the hand of the people of the lands. Nehemiah 9:30
For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, they turn aside the poor in the gate. Amos 5:12
Be ye not as your fathers, unto whom the former prophets have cried, saying, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Turn ye now from your evil ways, and your evil doings: but they did not hear, nor hearken unto me, saith the Lord. Zechariah 1:4
For the punishment of the iniquity of the daughter of my people is greater than the punishment of the sin of Sodom, that was overthrown as in a moment, and no hands stayed her. Lamentations 4:6
Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. Isaiah 1:4-5
But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin. Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity. They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity. Micah 3:8-10
And he said unto me, Son of man, I send thee to the children of Israel, to a rebellious nation that hath rebelled against me: they and their fathers have transgressed against me, unto this very day. For they are impudent children and stiffhearted. I do send thee unto them; and thou shat say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God. And they, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, (for they are a rebellious house) yet shall know that there hath been a prophet among them. And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briars and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, not be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house. And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear: for they are most rebellious. Ezekiel 2:3-7
We have sinned, and committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments: Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land. Daniel 9:5
Hear this word that the Lord has spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Amos 3:1-2
O Israel, return unto the Lord thy God; for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity. Hosea 14:1
The Lord hath been sore displeased with your fathers. Zechariah 1:2
But thou hast utterly rejected us; thou art very wroth against us. Lamentations 5:22
Howbeit thou art just in all that is brought upon us; for thou hast done right, but we have done wickedly. Nehemiah 9:33
Christian even ,not all,love and respect Jesus(PBUH), Jews they suppose love and respect Moses(PBUH), but Muslim all Muslims respect and love all Messengers and Prophets of Allah(God). Allah Messengers and Prophets are but not limited to Adam, Idris(Enoch), Noah, Hood, Add, Ishmael, Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed. For Muslim they are all equal they are loved and respected.
Rashida Tlaib doesn’t respect Jesus.
The title of this seriously looks like Alisa has thrown in the towel, realized it is hopeless to get GenZ to believe her faith, so insult them instead
It speaks volumes that you went by the title only I never bothered to watch and listen. That's the problem here. You can't be bothered to listen.
Many of us would love to engage with you, respectfully. Very difficult to offer without seeming like I am selling something and being dismissed. Censorship is really bad on RUclips as well.
Gen Z does not listen. The new generation, the Alpha's I minister to at children's ministry, are very sweet children, and they do not act as crazy and Generation Z. Gen Z is warped and needs psychological help. You hate Jews, whites, and any other group that has money. You think you should be rich and want them to die so you can take their money. You want a communist government, and to be part of the party. You will only be the new oppressor that you object to Israel or American whites as being now.
Unfortunately by ”conversation” most non Christians just want to dictate. It goes something like, “you’ve historically had your time to speak, so shut up and listen to the people who haven’t been able to.”
Thanks for covering, Alisa 🤍🇮🇱💙
Great conversation overall and so important to talk about! I do just want to add regarding the comment that American soldiers couldn’t shoot unless shot at, is actually true and very real. I’m a trauma therapist for Veterans and that’s actually something that really bothers them about their deployments; when the rules of engagement changed and they couldn’t do anything unless directly hit essentially. It’s a little more nuanced than I can put in this comment, but it is a real thing