The "man in a dress" bits on Nickelodeon mostly just made me feel bad, but the episode with James asking Logan to dress up so that he could then serenade him... that hit different back in the day😳
Loved BTR from grade school to high school and followed them pretty religiously when they got back together until it came out that James supports ethnic cleansing and Carlos supports Trump, so this isn't the biggest Big Time Disappointment I've had💀
@@ciana42by “supporting ethnic cleansing” they mean that James Maslow visiting Israeli towns that were attacked by the anti Jew terrorist group Hamas on October 7th. A terrorist group that in no way represents Palestinians and that has been undemocratically holding power over Palestinians without fair elections for decades. It should be noted that the aims of Hamas is liberation of Palestine only in the way of the extermination and expulsion of all Jews from the Levant. Just as Hamas doesn’t represent Palestinians the Israeli government doesn’t represent Israeli’s or their interests and instead wants to expel all Palestinians from the Levant instead, a horrific extremist act that has lead to the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people under the guise of anti Hamas action. The situation in Palestine Israel is not a fandom war, it is an incredibly complex political, social, and historic conflict over the holy land of multiple world religions. It’s not as simple as people on social media with no historical literacy like to pretend it is and it will not be solved through violence and division.
Fun fact, the 4 TMNT are a good representation of the classic 4 personalities represented by the 4 humours/4 temperments (choleric, melancholic, phlegmatic, and sanguine). The ATLA team is another example.
The ancient greek belief that people were made of 4 humors/tempraments. Yes its wild that tht was medical a thing. oh it would be more experimental psychology.
@@birchwood5889The Greeks thought personality was caused by four fluids in the body (blood, yellow bile, black bile, and phlegm), and which one you had the most of decided how you acted. People with more blood (sanguine) were more social and people oriented, people with more yellow bile (choleric) were more aggressive and impulsive, people with more black bile (melancholic) were more moody and pessimistic, and people with more phlegm (phlegmatic) were more calm and passive. Also don't say that you're dumb, you shouldn't talk about yourself like that.
The joy I felt when I paused the video after you brought up feminizing nerds, said “I know you’ve seen the Pop Culture Detective videos on Big Bang Theory,” unpaused, and those exact videos were put on screen. Unparalleled stuff
I am BEGGING you to look at Max Klinger from M*A*S*H 👁️👁️ his whole bit is that he’s a man who dresses in feminine things in order to protest his drafting into the war (the show takes place in a mash unit during the Korean War). He’s just such an interesting character, dressing femininely even when it’s clear he won’t get a pardon from duty. He’s obviously just written as a walking man in a dress joke, but from a modern lens he’s hardly criticized for his dresses and skirts (except by characters that are made to be prudish and seen as antagonists.) in conclusion ily Max Klinger ❤️ he’s genderfuck and I know it. It was told to me in a vision.
Yay! I was wondering when someone will bring him up. I know it is played as a joke, but it is like they are laughing with klinger and not at him. I swear the treatment of Klinger is more progressive than we thought.
I love Klinger. He's my fave. The only thing that frustrates me about him was where he got all those fabulous frocks in the middle of a warzone. I've yet to hear a believable explanation and I just want to know.
The bit about the writers poking fun at themselves wouldn't really be parody, it would be lampshading, where you can acknowledge some form of criticism of your work, and, ideally, offer a couter-point and defend your work in that work itself. It is often, however, used by less savvy writers to say "see, we know you think this" without actually elaborating and thinking they're better off from it, somehow.
Logan's bleep blap at 21:20 is absolutely one of funniest part of the whole show. Why did he do that? Did they tell him to improvise that whole line? What’s it suppose to mean? I need to know everything behind that small scene.
13:53 this moment haunts me to this day. i remember watching this as a kid, seeing this, and thinking "oh, those things i've been thinking ("i want to be a girl") are definietly not things that are okay, i guess i'll just repress it". i have no idea how much this scene actually contributed to me not properly realizing i was trans until many years later. but, i definitely think that if instead we'd gotten a story about a kid who realizes she's trans, and what that means and how she's feeling, my life might have gone very differently. not that i'm wishing it had, i'm happy with where i'm at. i don't dwell on it much, but it is something i think about from time to time. i hope future generations of trans kids get better representation than we did. things seem to be moving in that direction, at least
I went to a Catholic all-boys school. There are a few women teachers. Other than that, the only time women come to the school are dances, sports games, and pick-up/drop-off.
I went to an all-girls school (Gymnasium which should be around highschool I think) and while it didn't matter for teachers (except no male sports teachers) they did NOT let any boys into the building usually. The only exceptions were family at celebrations or interns from university
@@sweetday0-0 the lily simpson viewership demographic is probably like 95% white tgirls with shoulder length blonde hair and glasses. you are literally just doing the “girls are such White People” dril tweet but for teenagers
Despite watching most of the episodes of this show, the only one I can remember is the crossover with Patchy the Pirate from Spongebob. The rest all blend together for me.
I’d like to think there’s just one dedicated employee in Hollywood who makes every single music sting for every “I just got the idea to crossdress” moment on tv. That’s their only job.
I would be curious to see you cover Mrs. Doubtfire. I saw part of the movie partway through last year, and was pleasantly surprised. While it does use the setup of a guy dressing up as a woman to get access to something they otherwise wouldn't, I can say that during the part of the film I saw, they avoided making jokes where the punchline was purely "man in dress"
Even worse if we expected either the 90s or 2000s Nick to be the one mentioned but nah, damn, since when was the classic label pass the baton? if the 2010s are considered classics, then Nick 00s is retro and Nick 90s is ancient dinosaur times.
ah damn, you're right, I forgot about the pinwheel and Snick era of Nickelodeon as well, tho I wonder how those generations felt about it through the decades? must have been a ride of emotions@@JennBit
Kendall was so wrong for this episode but I can somewhat overlook it because their relationship in general after this is actually pretty great, especially for being in a show like this. He makes a really good effort for her, planning picnic dates and stuff and if I recall correctly he was really mature about her having to move for her career and didn't want to hold her back. I don't know why they made him so full on with flirting with her though. I wish they had him decide to hang out with her as friends after finding out about her boyfriend and then they could keep having moments where they get caught up and both forget that they're not supposed to be romantic, but it wouldn't be one sided. Eventually Jo would realize she actually does want to be with him and it would be cute and a lot less creepy. I know the majority of this video has nothing to do with their relationship but I just have a lot of thoughts lol. I think in general Kendall is my favorite character but they did not do him well in this episode.
no, thank you for this comment, idk why i was also stuck on thinking about how the relationship does eventually end and how the show handled it , still love worldwide LMAO
I'm not all the way through the video, but I had to pause and comment. I've been watching for a long time now, and in this video especially you're really shining and have come into your own. It's so cool to see your style of writing, comedy, and editing develop and it's become a comfort over the last year or so. Thank you for making the videos you do! Your gag about the SFX to mask a botched fistbump unexpectedly GOT me and that's what made me realize this, for what it's worth.
Tbh I've never watched Riverdale because .... did they make Jughead straight despite being aroace or was that just the fans being overly enthusiastic about his close friendship with Betty? Because I really really really really hate the aphobic behavior of just ignoring it when a character does not date and is not straight. Not every character needs to be paired up with another character.
okay as a diehard riverdale, archie comics, and jughead fan: idk how much you know abt these characters but jughead is named asexual in one run of the comics, that began in 2016. he's never called aromantic, just asexual. in the rest of the comics a gay jughead interpretation is prevalent alongside an asexual reading. riverdale does pair him up with betty pretty immediately and he's paired with a woman for almost the entire show. he's actually the only character in the main cast and almost the entire cast who is never shown to be involved in a queer relationship (it's implied but not explicitly.) queer jughead (as well as just the archie comics as queer) and riverdale have a lot of history that makes me wonder if the showrunners were even allowed to make him queer and if they even wanted to but that's a lot to unpack. I myself am on the aroace spectrum and have watched a lot of riverdale and read a lot of archie comics so I say with confidence jughead is definitely straightwashed but it's a little more complicated than just making an aroace character straight.
I think that whole musical cue thing is just a way to show people getting an idea in general, I wouldn't be surprised if we found this in different episodes about different things. Doing a close up on someone's face to show they got an idea is actually super common already. You probably just don't notice it normally because you aren't looking for it.
I've had a sexual awakening thanks to BTR too only with Kendall and it took me awhile to realize it! Back when I was a teen and I identified as a boy, I had this weird infatuation and interest with Kendall! There was a worry in the back of my head that that meant that I was gay and I was taught that it was wrong to be gay, so I suppressed it and instead decided that I simply wanted to be like him! Recently though, thanks to starting HRT, I finally broke apart my internalized homophobia and I realized that I was actually pansexual, and I realized that I was actually attracted to him!
He even owns the grandma look, his grandma look is his best female persona?! He is just going round not giving a shit what people think of him with her, a mood. Logan should have done a catchy number in his granmasona.
It's sad how many of these Nickelodeon live action sitcoms have a bunch of this icky Queerphobia to them Legit one of the only sitcoms that wasn't completely drowned out by this stuff was Drake & Josh, granted we all know Dan Schneider is a creep and there was some crossdressing in the pilot episode, but suprisingly on rewatch I noticed there's some good deconstructing of gender roles through the characters, like the episode where Drake & his girlfriend challenge each other to a fight, and also seeing Josh be comfortable with how he's perceived and not being obsessed with being some toxic masculine archetype, hell even Drake eventually grows out of it a little towards the end of the show Rambly I know but that's one of the only nick sitcoms I can still enjoy even inspite of the fucked up shit surrounding the crew who worked on it, as there's even these little things that make me feel euphoria, even if part of it could just be headcanons (plus the show is genuinely funny so it has that going for it too)
I wasn't into BTR when it was relevant. I *did* really like Boyfriend-- the Snoop verse is actually kind of hilarious-- and I worked at an amusement park one summer and they came and had a concert there and it was the most busiest my little airbrush tattoo booth ever was. I ran out of the letters B T & R. My new headcannon for this show I've only seen one episode of is that Logan has a Drag Character background performance side hustle happening.
I GOT ALL THE REFERENCES! I felt like this video was created for me, thank you Lily! I had a hyperfixation on their music when I was 11-12. I had a big crush on Kendall, which ment that I just wanted to become him and then date him. I'm the transest dude. Just thought about a "gotta live it big time" tattoo in gothic lettering loool
So i rewatched this video and started rewatching BTR and noticed that when Logan storms in after being beaten up by the girls at the reading/lecture/class/whatever that was supposed to be, that when he falls over and they all go to help him Kendall is saying “she’s fine, she’s fine” and honestly I love that? All the context he had was that one of his best friends is now wearing a full feminine getup and he immediately uses feminine pronouns. Accidentally woke for it’s time tbh.
oh no. i just started the video. this was one of the only shows my mom didnt get mad at me for watching, do i want to ruin this for me?? (the answers yes because its Lily)
Man I kinda love btr 😂 it’s def not perfect and I understand it not hitting the same for everyone-but their self-aware absurdist humor is kinda right up my alley. The fact the changes into any costume just happen by ducking out of frame for a second?? Do you have any idea how much I wish I could do that? (Not just cross dressing for the costumes by any means, this was a Costume Heavy show, if nothing else a lot of dressing up like bushes to be sneaky) I personally always found the humor more in the sound effects and the wild leaps in logic that all the characters do, rather than laughing really at the thing they’re doing. This was just a world where ppl follow their dreams and explore unlikely ideas and it’s so fun :) I adore how chill everyone is with ppl going FULL OUT in whatever unusual thing they’ve decided to do. The show was def always more in the realm of lighthearted escapism for me, and gave me the courage to publicly go all-out on the things that I do, like costumes :)
In TV shows involving disguises (especially comedies), when the audience is in on the disguise, it's a trend to have the disguise be much better in-universe than it is out of universe. (Think Bugs Bunny in drag, for example.) It makes it obvious even to viewers who come in late or are letting the show go in the background. And it helps with the dramatic irony if the audience can't even for a moment forget who the character "really" is. I note this a lot in these cross dressing disguise episodes. There seems to be a reluctance to put in too much effort, since part of the comedy is often in the drag aspect being obvious. That's why it was odd to me that Cody in Suite Life looked so much like a girl. Or why Shawn look so feminine in Boy Meets World (which should cover if you haven't.)
At the risk of sounding spam-my, if you're ever starved for content (I doubt it,) there's a transgender character in the drama series " Ugly Betty" and some queer themes that I'd LOVE to see your take on. Great vid, btw!
Lily, I think I've left a similar comment before, but I wanted to say thank you for doing what you do. I'm a cis dude and your content has helped me understand trans people's perspectives on a lot of issues, and more generally helped me stay conscious of different perspectives i might not have been aware of otherwise. Also you're really funny and i just love your videos, they're a lot of fun and so well put together. So thanks for the awesome work you do
I've been saving this notification all day. Thank you Lily for the best birthday present ever. ahem OH OH UHAH OHHHH make it count, play it straight don't look back, don't hesitate! when you go BIG TIME! what you know, what you feel never quit, make it real WHEN you ROLL BIG TIME!! ohoh HEY. HEY. listen to your HEART now HEY. HEY. don'tchu feel the RUSH!!! oh-ohh, oh OHHHHHHH Go shake it up! Whatcha gotta lose? Go and make your luck with the life you choose, If you want it all, Lay it on the line!!! It's the only life ya got, So ya gotta live it BIG TIME!!!
I loved this show! I even saw BTR live for my first concert and they were awesome, and apparently now they're back together? Also correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Logan came out as gay LMAO
i don't think he came out???? i just looked it up and most of the stuff that comes up is stating that he's NOT gay, and the "proof" for him being is just a tiktok of him drinking a beer with a random dude
oh! your tmnt chart + granny logan reminded me that in the latest tmnt cartoon, Rise, had a bit where donnie and leo dress as old ladies. it went like leo: why do you always make us dress as old ladies? donnie: one, comfort. two, to better blend in... idk, it might not be super relevant, but the old lady get ups being donnie's idea feels connected to the 'less threatening nerds' concept you mentioned :0
I know this is a little nitpicky of me, but as a person of color, it’s very easy to spot the one brown person in each boyband. Like you’re telling me you can’t tell which one is ZAYN? that’s a quintessential Muslim name esp because he’s half Pakistani. Idk just a thought I had
@@dianaavila3950hey, poc who loves hip-hop and R&B here. His music is boring and i cant tell him apart from the other members either but maybe its facial blindness and bad music taste idk.
i really appreciated the intro!!! very clever and funny for me (someone who WAS a big time fan of the show at the time, not the group/music, and never able to forget the theme song) 😂😂
The Warhammer reference hot me hard. Not because I'm a Warhammer fan or know anything about it, but because my best friends are and now I have the urge to send them this whole video for this one reference
It blows my mind that RUclips just gives away the earnings of copyright claimed vídeos. How do they not hold onto that money until the appeal window / process is over and give the money to whomever wins?
I saw them live this year and was surprised how much i remembered the music and the show So i am so excited you made this and *i* got the intro reference immediately
Lily, darlin I’m gonna be honest with you;I got a little high before I watched this and said out loudly during your opening bit “ is this…are these references to the show or some songs?” I don’t know anything about BTR and I’m too old to learn.I still thought it was very good video.
I went to a BTR concert when I was 12 with my neighbors and Cody Simpson opened for them. On the way home, one of the other kids with us (a group of like 3 preteens and one teenager with her mom driving us all) threw up on everyone's shoes in the back seat of the mom's car. Not sure what that says about the band but I always remember that night when BTR comes up
I guess ill keep commenting on every video i watch, but PLEASE do My babysitter's a Vampire Episode 2: Three cheers for evil It has 1 transphobic scene but the rest of it is so gay and trans and flawless (TO ME)
I've never watched Big Time Rush (I'm old), but this video made me think that it would be interesting for you to do a Kenan & Kel video. There were several episodes where Kel cross dressed, usually as part of a plan concocted by Kenan, but he always seemed enthusiastic about it and fully committed to the character.
You know Kendall has some problems because he’s obsessed with the female version of himself😅was weirded out by how much he and Jo look alike even as a child
This reminds me that Ned’s Declassified had an ongoing thing where Cookie would dress up as a girl. I don’t remember how that held up, but I remember the bully guy thought she was the girl of his dreams, so at least they portrayed the trans gag as a pretty attractive girl
Imagine if all of the girls in the classroom pulled off their wigs and revealed they're actually guys. I'm not sure if that would have made it better or worse though.
I'd be placing bets on how many of them actually come out as trans within the next five years. There's only so long one can "commit to the bit" without questioning to themselves whether or not it's really a bit.
I think it's "UH UH UH OHHHHH" (since the theme started whenever there's a problem that arises) which is certainly fitting for the title of the video lmfao
Honestly I can kinda see that first episode being written by an egg. I constantly felt so much more comfortable with the girls than I ever did with boys, and there's this feeling of longing to be there and that fear of being found out, that fear of being seen as an invader.
I would be so curious to hear what you think of the star trek ds9 episode 'profit and lace' where quark like fully transitions temporarily. i watched it recently and was just thinking woah lily simpson would have a field day with this. obviously ds9 is already very transgender thanks to dax
They were my favourite and one of the only 4 boys who i stanned super hard but james supporting a genocide, wearing a press vest in israel and all the pro israel propganda on his page, is my worst nightmare of all
I almost feel bad for þe newcomers who click your videos expecting drama and fight-picking and come away wiþ a well-researched and fair analysis of þe text, packed wiþ insightful commentary and media literacy.
Thank you for the 40k fan call out, perfectly timed with me putting the finishing touches on my grot mega-tank (putting 3d printed goblins and guns on a toy Volkswagen microbus)
As someone who goes to a historically women’s college and is trans masc I think the way they represent the all girls school is so funny because it kind of feels like a caricaturized version of how the staff might treat a trans student and how some girls are but it’s also a REALLY REALLY queer space like most of my friends are trans men or nonbinary in some capacity. Anyway, I feel like the writers just have no idea how women talk lmao
As an ex 1D fan I honestly don’t remember their names either, only Nial and Zayne cuz I was obsessed with them. I also just want to point out that narcissism isn’t the same as egotism. Narcissism is a psychiatric term for a person with Narcissistic personality disorder and non-NPD-havers shouldn’t be referred to as such as they do not have NPD, therefore cannot be narcissistic. That term is also often misused as a weapon against people, especially people with NPD and misusing the term adds on to stigma pwNPD face, which is often so common that most “mental health advocates” and cluster Bs will shit on us for no reason. Maybe use the term “egotistical” or “self centred” next time.
8:55 as someone currently mid-hyperfixation on the tmnt this made me waaayyyy too happy lol. Also, i like that they're all the 2003 version exept donnie.
The style of editing, performance, and general vibes really reminds me of the Fine Bros' MyMusic series from a decade ago. Starring a younger JacksFilms. I can't remember if there's any trans episodes, but it's only like 6 episodes so I might check through to confirm and request it.
For the 1950s thing, it *was* actually social etiquette to say no to men that you were interested in; you’d just say it differently than you would to a man that you’re not interested in
The highschool I went to was one of the ones that BTR played at and for the entirety of my time there I would pass a framed signed poster that was kept in like the way back corner that they shoved the art students
Your channel is such an amazing ongoing study of trans presence in media. You should just take your video scripts and combine them into a book or whatever academics do when they publish shit
Great analysis! I loved this show when I was younger but the amount of cross dressing scenes never really hit me until you listed them all out. This show was basically my queer awakening. I was 12 when it premiered and utterly obsessed with Kendall before realizing it was actually just attracted to him. The show has countless jokes about the guys coming across gay. James makes Kendall take a relationship quiz together. Mrs. Knight walks in on Logan and James hugging and flashes them a 🤨 a couple times in one episode. They all get offended when Katie thinks they don’t want to discuss hot men with her. I’m surely forgetting some others. Then there’s an entire episode that’s an allegory for coming out of the closet. Big Time Secret. Kendall doesn’t want the guys to know he’s been figure skating since it’s not as masculine as hockey or whatever. They believe he’s hooking up with Camille since she’s his skating partner. He keeps this secret until the end of the episode where he reveals his shiny purple figure skating costume to his friends and they initially flip out before accepting him for who he is. This show essentially introduced queer-baiting to me. I’ll be upset if they make a reunion episode because it’ll ruin my headcanon that they’ll all in a gay poly relationship with each other now.
I realize that the goofy tangents are nice actually. Some of the media’s gender things are a bit uncomfortable, so a tangent about boy bands or Manehatten seems like a bit of friendly distraction.
As a Warhammer 40k fan and a Big Time Rush fan, I want to assure you that everytime you said something to the effect of "I hope someone got and appreciated that reference" such as with the theme song thing in the intro... That was me. I got it and appreciated. And no I haven't tried Rogue Trader, waiting for a bit for the inevitable patches.
they didn't give an effort to Logan's drag costume because they knew Logan would do a way too good femboy
The liberal TV media complex agenda
HATES cute little guys and it is categorically unfair
The world just wasn't ready for that kind of enlightenment
So fucking true
he couldve been troy sivan a decade before troy sivan
@@jgttmvPERIOD
this is like alexander avila's 'are they gay?''s sister series 'are they transphobic?'
Omgg yes
Haha ye
Now I want Alexander and Lily to do a collab. It would be SOOOOO niche, but could be awesome.
@@onijester56 SAME, i would love that
He ended that series but a collab would be sweet. He has new material.
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"My two favorite things: Girls, and math! And since I can't become math (believe me, I've tried)..."
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ain't that the truth, sister
The "man in a dress" bits on Nickelodeon mostly just made me feel bad, but the episode with James asking Logan to dress up so that he could then serenade him... that hit different back in the day😳
that's the most gay situation i have ever heard
I'm sure a lot of gay fanfic was born out of that scene 😂
Loved BTR from grade school to high school and followed them pretty religiously when they got back together until it came out that James supports ethnic cleansing and Carlos supports Trump, so this isn't the biggest Big Time Disappointment I've had💀
Wait, for real?
Why am I not surprised?
@@ciana42by “supporting ethnic cleansing” they mean that James Maslow visiting Israeli towns that were attacked by the anti Jew terrorist group Hamas on October 7th. A terrorist group that in no way represents Palestinians and that has been undemocratically holding power over Palestinians without fair elections for decades. It should be noted that the aims of Hamas is liberation of Palestine only in the way of the extermination and expulsion of all Jews from the Levant. Just as Hamas doesn’t represent Palestinians the Israeli government doesn’t represent Israeli’s or their interests and instead wants to expel all Palestinians from the Levant instead, a horrific extremist act that has lead to the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent people under the guise of anti Hamas action.
The situation in Palestine Israel is not a fandom war, it is an incredibly complex political, social, and historic conflict over the holy land of multiple world religions. It’s not as simple as people on social media with no historical literacy like to pretend it is and it will not be solved through violence and division.
Goddamnit I knew about Carlos but not James
Dammit this is just more than Big Time disappointing. That's just ew.
Fun fact, the 4 TMNT are a good representation of the classic 4 personalities represented by the 4 humours/4 temperments (choleric, melancholic, phlegmatic, and sanguine). The ATLA team is another example.
Can you do normal words please (I’m dumb)
The ancient greek belief that people were made of 4 humors/tempraments. Yes its wild that tht was medical a thing.
oh it would be more experimental psychology.
But isn't there 5 core members of Team Avatar by the end? You have one for each element 🌊 🪨 🔥 🌪️ 🪃
@@birchwood5889The Greeks thought personality was caused by four fluids in the body (blood, yellow bile, black bile, and phlegm), and which one you had the most of decided how you acted. People with more blood (sanguine) were more social and people oriented, people with more yellow bile (choleric) were more aggressive and impulsive, people with more black bile (melancholic) were more moody and pessimistic, and people with more phlegm (phlegmatic) were more calm and passive.
Also don't say that you're dumb, you shouldn't talk about yourself like that.
@@ellagage1256 when the avatar got too old, and stopped making sense.
Boomer aang
I'm so sorry about myself, sokka is a champ
“Big Time Rush walked so Riverdale could run” SO TRUE BESTIE OMG
The joy I felt when I paused the video after you brought up feminizing nerds, said “I know you’ve seen the Pop Culture Detective videos on Big Bang Theory,” unpaused, and those exact videos were put on screen. Unparalleled stuff
8:50 Whenever you have a set of 4 guys, they'll always end up falling into the classic Ninja Turtle dynamic.
I am BEGGING you to look at Max Klinger from M*A*S*H 👁️👁️ his whole bit is that he’s a man who dresses in feminine things in order to protest his drafting into the war (the show takes place in a mash unit during the Korean War). He’s just such an interesting character, dressing femininely even when it’s clear he won’t get a pardon from duty. He’s obviously just written as a walking man in a dress joke, but from a modern lens he’s hardly criticized for his dresses and skirts (except by characters that are made to be prudish and seen as antagonists.) in conclusion ily Max Klinger ❤️ he’s genderfuck and I know it. It was told to me in a vision.
Max Klinger is an absolute icon and I love the show so much for not bullying him for his amazing outfits
Lily's gonna need several hours long episodes for M.A.S.H
Yay! I was wondering when someone will bring him up.
I know it is played as a joke, but it is like they are laughing with klinger and not at him. I swear the treatment of Klinger is more progressive than we thought.
HECK YES! M*A*S*H needs to be talked about more often.
I love Klinger. He's my fave. The only thing that frustrates me about him was where he got all those fabulous frocks in the middle of a warzone. I've yet to hear a believable explanation and I just want to know.
The bit about the writers poking fun at themselves wouldn't really be parody, it would be lampshading, where you can acknowledge some form of criticism of your work, and, ideally, offer a couter-point and defend your work in that work itself.
It is often, however, used by less savvy writers to say "see, we know you think this" without actually elaborating and thinking they're better off from it, somehow.
Logan's bleep blap at 21:20 is absolutely one of funniest part of the whole show.
Why did he do that? Did they tell him to improvise that whole line? What’s it suppose to mean? I need to know everything behind that small scene.
yknow, just doin his thing. bleep blap
13:53 this moment haunts me to this day. i remember watching this as a kid, seeing this, and thinking "oh, those things i've been thinking ("i want to be a girl") are definietly not things that are okay, i guess i'll just repress it". i have no idea how much this scene actually contributed to me not properly realizing i was trans until many years later. but, i definitely think that if instead we'd gotten a story about a kid who realizes she's trans, and what that means and how she's feeling, my life might have gone very differently.
not that i'm wishing it had, i'm happy with where i'm at. i don't dwell on it much, but it is something i think about from time to time. i hope future generations of trans kids get better representation than we did. things seem to be moving in that direction, at least
I just came for a Lily Simpson video, and a few minutes in I get rewarded with another banger cameo by Shayne Topp from I-Carly.
How lucky I am.
I went to a Catholic all-boys school. There are a few women teachers. Other than that, the only time women come to the school are dances, sports games, and pick-up/drop-off.
I went to an all-girls school (Gymnasium which should be around highschool I think) and while it didn't matter for teachers (except no male sports teachers) they did NOT let any boys into the building usually. The only exceptions were family at celebrations or interns from university
BABE WAKE UP NEW LILY SIMPSON VIDEO
Goes back to bed and farts
It's a man
I watched big time rush and when I try to remember the guys my mind just conjures as many bland white guys as it can hoping four of them are right
carlos is going to kill himself if he sees this. take it back
I'm sorry.......
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That he's interchangeable with three white guys
@@sweetday0-0 the lily simpson viewership demographic is probably like 95% white tgirls with shoulder length blonde hair and glasses. you are literally just doing the “girls are such White People” dril tweet but for teenagers
@@sweetday0-0 this comment section is entirely made up of interchangeable white transfems, for the record
All of them are Harry Styles
Despite watching most of the episodes of this show, the only one I can remember is the crossover with Patchy the Pirate from Spongebob. The rest all blend together for me.
Ironically I don’t think I remember that one. 41:22 I’m at that point and I think I just heard SpongeBob music.
1:00 "Back in the slime days" will now be how I refer to the early years of my transition
The music sting is just the universal signal for "this character just had a great idea". You see it in all sorts of different kinds of episodes
this
I’d like to think there’s just one dedicated employee in Hollywood who makes every single music sting for every “I just got the idea to crossdress” moment on tv. That’s their only job.
"Passing" is definitely the biggest scam for any trans girl (I got played so hard) but ironically he needs to PASS to get to the maths chick. ☝️
The only thing we should PASS is kush. Can I get an Amen?
@@akiraeatsguitarpicks491 I would make it a gaymen. ** hits bong **
Big trans rush
that’s how it feels when it suddenly hits you one day yes I am trans 😮
so true
😂
Here's some of that attention you were quite blantantly seeking. Enjoy
Just another way to say "gender euphoria".
@@cy268 I'm glad we all understand that people often post silly [or whatever else] comments in hopes of getting noticed by many. 😅
I love it whenever you do an American accent - the transatlantic accent sounded like a Chicago mobster hahaha
Big Time Rush editing is like that of a modern tiktok shitpost with all these wacky sound effects
BTR has the same editing style of Ned's Declassified. both were from the same creator/producer.
I would be curious to see you cover Mrs. Doubtfire. I saw part of the movie partway through last year, and was pleasantly surprised. While it does use the setup of a guy dressing up as a woman to get access to something they otherwise wouldn't, I can say that during the part of the film I saw, they avoided making jokes where the punchline was purely "man in dress"
"old school nickelodeon"
"Big Time Rush, iCarly, Sam and Kat"
oh no I'm old *cries in Hey Dude*
Even worse if we expected either the 90s or 2000s Nick to be the one mentioned but nah, damn, since when was the classic label pass the baton? if the 2010s are considered classics, then Nick 00s is retro and Nick 90s is ancient dinosaur times.
@@dimensionalmagic Could only imagine how the folks who grew up with Nickelodeon when they were playing Video Comics and Pinwheel feel
ah damn, you're right, I forgot about the pinwheel and Snick era of Nickelodeon as well, tho I wonder how those generations felt about it through the decades? must have been a ride of emotions@@JennBit
_crumbles to dust in You Can’t Do That on Television_
Eh, I'm 34. Stuff happens.
Kendall was so wrong for this episode but I can somewhat overlook it because their relationship in general after this is actually pretty great, especially for being in a show like this. He makes a really good effort for her, planning picnic dates and stuff and if I recall correctly he was really mature about her having to move for her career and didn't want to hold her back. I don't know why they made him so full on with flirting with her though. I wish they had him decide to hang out with her as friends after finding out about her boyfriend and then they could keep having moments where they get caught up and both forget that they're not supposed to be romantic, but it wouldn't be one sided. Eventually Jo would realize she actually does want to be with him and it would be cute and a lot less creepy.
I know the majority of this video has nothing to do with their relationship but I just have a lot of thoughts lol. I think in general Kendall is my favorite character but they did not do him well in this episode.
I mean it's not just him these are for 16 year old boys and they all act like this
Usually all the time
no, thank you for this comment, idk why i was also stuck on thinking about how the relationship does eventually end and how the show handled it , still love worldwide LMAO
Yeah I loved Jo as a kid and their relationship was really good.
The fact that security guard was the literal gender police
I'm not all the way through the video, but I had to pause and comment. I've been watching for a long time now, and in this video especially you're really shining and have come into your own. It's so cool to see your style of writing, comedy, and editing develop and it's become a comfort over the last year or so. Thank you for making the videos you do!
Your gag about the SFX to mask a botched fistbump unexpectedly GOT me and that's what made me realize this, for what it's worth.
Tbh I've never watched Riverdale because .... did they make Jughead straight despite being aroace or was that just the fans being overly enthusiastic about his close friendship with Betty? Because I really really really really hate the aphobic behavior of just ignoring it when a character does not date and is not straight. Not every character needs to be paired up with another character.
No, they made Jughead straight. Jughead and Betty's romantic relationship is a huge part of the show. I was very, very disappointed (I'm aroace)
okay as a diehard riverdale, archie comics, and jughead fan:
idk how much you know abt these characters but jughead is named asexual in one run of the comics, that began in 2016. he's never called aromantic, just asexual. in the rest of the comics a gay jughead interpretation is prevalent alongside an asexual reading.
riverdale does pair him up with betty pretty immediately and he's paired with a woman for almost the entire show. he's actually the only character in the main cast and almost the entire cast who is never shown to be involved in a queer relationship (it's implied but not explicitly.)
queer jughead (as well as just the archie comics as queer) and riverdale have a lot of history that makes me wonder if the showrunners were even allowed to make him queer and if they even wanted to but that's a lot to unpack.
I myself am on the aroace spectrum and have watched a lot of riverdale and read a lot of archie comics so I say with confidence jughead is definitely straightwashed but it's a little more complicated than just making an aroace character straight.
thank u for including the cat interlude
I think that whole musical cue thing is just a way to show people getting an idea in general, I wouldn't be surprised if we found this in different episodes about different things. Doing a close up on someone's face to show they got an idea is actually super common already. You probably just don't notice it normally because you aren't looking for it.
Fun fact Kendall and Leanardo from the 3d tmnt show voiced by the same actor in Hungary :D and they both are leaders of their group
31:40 I CHOKED at the "boy band more like boy baned" joke you almost killed me
Pretty sure this show was my gay awakening, i think I had a massive crush on Logan specifically. I was 11😭
I've had a sexual awakening thanks to BTR too only with Kendall and it took me awhile to realize it! Back when I was a teen and I identified as a boy, I had this weird infatuation and interest with Kendall! There was a worry in the back of my head that that meant that I was gay and I was taught that it was wrong to be gay, so I suppressed it and instead decided that I simply wanted to be like him! Recently though, thanks to starting HRT, I finally broke apart my internalized homophobia and I realized that I was actually pansexual, and I realized that I was actually attracted to him!
@@PickyPaigeBig Time Rush more like Big Time Gay
He even owns the grandma look, his grandma look is his best female persona?! He is just going round not giving a shit what people think of him with her, a mood.
Logan should have done a catchy number in his granmasona.
@@frogurtcremebrulee5252 If a reboot ever happened I would really love them to have an episode named like that!
Not the first time a character called Logan gave someone a gay awakening
It's sad how many of these Nickelodeon live action sitcoms have a bunch of this icky Queerphobia to them
Legit one of the only sitcoms that wasn't completely drowned out by this stuff was Drake & Josh, granted we all know Dan Schneider is a creep and there was some crossdressing in the pilot episode, but suprisingly on rewatch I noticed there's some good deconstructing of gender roles through the characters, like the episode where Drake & his girlfriend challenge each other to a fight, and also seeing Josh be comfortable with how he's perceived and not being obsessed with being some toxic masculine archetype, hell even Drake eventually grows out of it a little towards the end of the show
Rambly I know but that's one of the only nick sitcoms I can still enjoy even inspite of the fucked up shit surrounding the crew who worked on it, as there's even these little things that make me feel euphoria, even if part of it could just be headcanons (plus the show is genuinely funny so it has that going for it too)
Episode 1 shows Drake reacting badly to Josh crossdressing
@@monkeyboy831fulyes as they said in their comment :))
You can take the perfect meme template of J&D from my cold hands
The fact that you chose icky out of every negative adjective is really funny
I wasn't into BTR when it was relevant. I *did* really like Boyfriend-- the Snoop verse is actually kind of hilarious-- and I worked at an amusement park one summer and they came and had a concert there and it was the most busiest my little airbrush tattoo booth ever was. I ran out of the letters B T & R.
My new headcannon for this show I've only seen one episode of is that Logan has a Drag Character background performance side hustle happening.
that intro was incredibly written, well done
I GOT ALL THE REFERENCES! I felt like this video was created for me, thank you Lily! I had a hyperfixation on their music when I was 11-12.
I had a big crush on Kendall, which ment that I just wanted to become him and then date him.
I'm the transest dude. Just thought about a "gotta live it big time" tattoo in gothic lettering loool
dude !!! really incredible tattoo idea omg ! idk why but just the thought of someone actually having that tattoo really made me so excited lmao
So i rewatched this video and started rewatching BTR and noticed that when Logan storms in after being beaten up by the girls at the reading/lecture/class/whatever that was supposed to be, that when he falls over and they all go to help him Kendall is saying “she’s fine, she’s fine” and honestly I love that? All the context he had was that one of his best friends is now wearing a full feminine getup and he immediately uses feminine pronouns. Accidentally woke for it’s time tbh.
The literal only thing I know about this show is that Patchy the Pirate is in one of the episodes.
oh no. i just started the video. this was one of the only shows my mom didnt get mad at me for watching, do i want to ruin this for me??
(the answers yes because its Lily)
Yes, Lily posted. We must take our medicine😞
Man I kinda love btr 😂 it’s def not perfect and I understand it not hitting the same for everyone-but their self-aware absurdist humor is kinda right up my alley. The fact the changes into any costume just happen by ducking out of frame for a second?? Do you have any idea how much I wish I could do that? (Not just cross dressing for the costumes by any means, this was a Costume Heavy show, if nothing else a lot of dressing up like bushes to be sneaky)
I personally always found the humor more in the sound effects and the wild leaps in logic that all the characters do, rather than laughing really at the thing they’re doing. This was just a world where ppl follow their dreams and explore unlikely ideas and it’s so fun :)
I adore how chill everyone is with ppl going FULL OUT in whatever unusual thing they’ve decided to do. The show was def always more in the realm of lighthearted escapism for me, and gave me the courage to publicly go all-out on the things that I do, like costumes :)
I really relate to this interpretation of it!
hell yea
I got your intro reference Lily don't worry! Now that song will be stuck in my head all day
In TV shows involving disguises (especially comedies), when the audience is in on the disguise, it's a trend to have the disguise be much better in-universe than it is out of universe. (Think Bugs Bunny in drag, for example.) It makes it obvious even to viewers who come in late or are letting the show go in the background. And it helps with the dramatic irony if the audience can't even for a moment forget who the character "really" is.
I note this a lot in these cross dressing disguise episodes. There seems to be a reluctance to put in too much effort, since part of the comedy is often in the drag aspect being obvious. That's why it was odd to me that Cody in Suite Life looked so much like a girl. Or why Shawn look so feminine in Boy Meets World (which should cover if you haven't.)
A running gag in Ned's Classified Classroom was Ned finding how dresses are comfy and flow with air and it stuck to me since
13:53
Damn that just unlocked a memory of me as a kid thinking "Yeah, me too" at that statement lol
At the risk of sounding spam-my, if you're ever starved for content (I doubt it,) there's a transgender character in the drama series " Ugly Betty" and some queer themes that I'd LOVE to see your take on. Great vid, btw!
So glad someone else mentioned Ugly Betty 🙌
Lily, I think I've left a similar comment before, but I wanted to say thank you for doing what you do. I'm a cis dude and your content has helped me understand trans people's perspectives on a lot of issues, and more generally helped me stay conscious of different perspectives i might not have been aware of otherwise. Also you're really funny and i just love your videos, they're a lot of fun and so well put together. So thanks for the awesome work you do
I've been saving this notification all day. Thank you Lily for the best birthday present ever.
ahem
OH OH UHAH OHHHH
make it count, play it straight
don't look back, don't hesitate!
when you go BIG TIME!
what you know, what you feel
never quit, make it real
WHEN you ROLL
BIG TIME!!
ohoh HEY. HEY.
listen to your HEART now
HEY. HEY.
don'tchu feel the RUSH!!!
oh-ohh, oh OHHHHHHH
Go shake it up!
Whatcha gotta lose?
Go and make your luck with the life you choose,
If you want it all,
Lay it on the line!!!
It's the only life ya got,
So ya gotta live it BIG TIME!!!
I loved this show! I even saw BTR live for my first concert and they were awesome, and apparently now they're back together? Also correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Logan came out as gay LMAO
i don't think he came out???? i just looked it up and most of the stuff that comes up is stating that he's NOT gay, and the "proof" for him being is just a tiktok of him drinking a beer with a random dude
@@gothianest Ah thank you for the correction!
james is gay, not logan
@@cassidyauld6413 where did you see that?
And Carlos is a Republican Trump lover
13:53 This scene has lived rent free in my head for years
oh! your tmnt chart + granny logan reminded me that in the latest tmnt cartoon, Rise, had a bit where donnie and leo dress as old ladies. it went like
leo: why do you always make us dress as old ladies?
donnie: one, comfort. two, to better blend in...
idk, it might not be super relevant, but the old lady get ups being donnie's idea feels connected to the 'less threatening nerds' concept you mentioned :0
I know this is a little nitpicky of me, but as a person of color, it’s very easy to spot the one brown person in each boyband. Like you’re telling me you can’t tell which one is ZAYN? that’s a quintessential Muslim name esp because he’s half Pakistani. Idk just a thought I had
Same with Carlos, he’s the only remotely ethnic person in the BTR cast
thought the exact same thing. plus, talking about Zayn's music being boring when it's mainly r&b...
LITERALLY
that explains why zayn and carlos were my favorites 😭
@@dianaavila3950that put an icky taste in my mouth too 😬😬😬
@@dianaavila3950hey, poc who loves hip-hop and R&B here. His music is boring and i cant tell him apart from the other members either but maybe its facial blindness and bad music taste idk.
I had no idea I knew so little about BTR. I thought it was basically "The Monkees but for the 2010s," I had no idea about the hockey thing
I completely forgot about it too. Also cool profile pic !
this is the first time i've ever seen anyone bring up that btr is literally the monkees!!
i really appreciated the intro!!! very clever and funny for me (someone who WAS a big time fan of the show at the time, not the group/music, and never able to forget the theme song) 😂😂
The Warhammer reference hot me hard. Not because I'm a Warhammer fan or know anything about it, but because my best friends are and now I have the urge to send them this whole video for this one reference
It blows my mind that RUclips just gives away the earnings of copyright claimed vídeos.
How do they not hold onto that money until the appeal window / process is over and give the money to whomever wins?
AMAZING VIDEO!!!
I don't remember if there was any queer stuff in it but I used to love My Babysitter's a Vampire!!
I saw them live this year and was surprised how much i remembered the music and the show
So i am so excited you made this and *i* got the intro reference immediately
Let's gooooo! Love a dive into a show I never watched
Lesss gooo!
the way I clicked on this so fast, I love this show! awesome job!!
Lily, darlin I’m gonna be honest with you;I got a little high before I watched this and said out loudly during your opening bit “ is this…are these references to the show or some songs?” I don’t know anything about BTR and I’m too old to learn.I still thought it was very good video.
Camille wouldn’t care because she’s constantly coming up to them acting as different roles she’s auditioning for
I went to a BTR concert when I was 12 with my neighbors and Cody Simpson opened for them. On the way home, one of the other kids with us (a group of like 3 preteens and one teenager with her mom driving us all) threw up on everyone's shoes in the back seat of the mom's car. Not sure what that says about the band but I always remember that night when BTR comes up
I guess ill keep commenting on every video i watch, but PLEASE do My babysitter's a Vampire Episode 2: Three cheers for evil
It has 1 transphobic scene but the rest of it is so gay and trans and flawless (TO ME)
I've never watched Big Time Rush (I'm old), but this video made me think that it would be interesting for you to do a Kenan & Kel video. There were several episodes where Kel cross dressed, usually as part of a plan concocted by Kenan, but he always seemed enthusiastic about it and fully committed to the character.
I vouch for a Kenan & Kel vid because, well, name another duo who could save the president from falling soda.
Kenan and Kel are an iconic duo, I second this!
I GOT THE WHOLE REFERENCE OF THE INTRO LILY, DON'T WORRY!!
Lily how can you put out this much content so quickly you’re scaring me
You know Kendall has some problems because he’s obsessed with the female version of himself😅was weirded out by how much he and Jo look alike even as a child
Another reason why I preferred him an Lucy
I do love that
Every time
Without fail
There will be judgment by Lily on their fem outfit.
But I kind of loved the outfit. I would wear that tomorrow and you know what? I'd look hot as hell.
This reminds me that Ned’s Declassified had an ongoing thing where Cookie would dress up as a girl. I don’t remember how that held up, but I remember the bully guy thought she was the girl of his dreams, so at least they portrayed the trans gag as a pretty attractive girl
Imagine if all of the girls in the classroom pulled off their wigs and revealed they're actually guys.
I'm not sure if that would have made it better or worse though.
I'd be placing bets on how many of them actually come out as trans within the next five years. There's only so long one can "commit to the bit" without questioning to themselves whether or not it's really a bit.
WOAH OH OOOOOOOH OH
I think it's "UH UH UH OHHHHH" (since the theme started whenever there's a problem that arises) which is certainly fitting for the title of the video lmfao
@@ghastlycandle no cause legit I read the title and in my head went "ooh oh ohhh nooo" lmao
Honestly I can kinda see that first episode being written by an egg. I constantly felt so much more comfortable with the girls than I ever did with boys, and there's this feeling of longing to be there and that fear of being found out, that fear of being seen as an invader.
I would be so curious to hear what you think of the star trek ds9 episode 'profit and lace' where quark like fully transitions temporarily. i watched it recently and was just thinking woah lily simpson would have a field day with this. obviously ds9 is already very transgender thanks to dax
They were my favourite and one of the only 4 boys who i stanned super hard but james supporting a genocide, wearing a press vest in israel and all the pro israel propganda on his page, is my worst nightmare of all
Babe wake up new hour long Lily Thompson video dropped
Was really hoping for Venture Brothers, since it got third in the poll. Still excited to watch this one, though!
I almost feel bad for þe newcomers who click your videos expecting drama and fight-picking and come away wiþ a well-researched and fair analysis of þe text, packed wiþ insightful commentary and media literacy.
Thank you for the 40k fan call out, perfectly timed with me putting the finishing touches on my grot mega-tank (putting 3d printed goblins and guns on a toy Volkswagen microbus)
The manager guy looks so much like Bubba Ray Dudley, it's unreal.
As someone who goes to a historically women’s college and is trans masc I think the way they represent the all girls school is so funny because it kind of feels like a caricaturized version of how the staff might treat a trans student and how some girls are but it’s also a REALLY REALLY queer space like most of my friends are trans men or nonbinary in some capacity. Anyway, I feel like the writers just have no idea how women talk lmao
As an ex 1D fan I honestly don’t remember their names either, only Nial and Zayne cuz I was obsessed with them. I also just want to point out that narcissism isn’t the same as egotism. Narcissism is a psychiatric term for a person with Narcissistic personality disorder and non-NPD-havers shouldn’t be referred to as such as they do not have NPD, therefore cannot be narcissistic. That term is also often misused as a weapon against people, especially people with NPD and misusing the term adds on to stigma pwNPD face, which is often so common that most “mental health advocates” and cluster Bs will shit on us for no reason. Maybe use the term “egotistical” or “self centred” next time.
Big Time Rush was the first band I ever saw live
8:55 as someone currently mid-hyperfixation on the tmnt this made me waaayyyy too happy lol. Also, i like that they're all the 2003 version exept donnie.
The style of editing, performance, and general vibes really reminds me of the Fine Bros' MyMusic series from a decade ago. Starring a younger JacksFilms.
I can't remember if there's any trans episodes, but it's only like 6 episodes so I might check through to confirm and request it.
For the 1950s thing, it *was* actually social etiquette to say no to men that you were interested in; you’d just say it differently than you would to a man that you’re not interested in
The highschool I went to was one of the ones that BTR played at and for the entirety of my time there I would pass a framed signed poster that was kept in like the way back corner that they shoved the art students
Your channel is such an amazing ongoing study of trans presence in media. You should just take your video scripts and combine them into a book or whatever academics do when they publish shit
great video, very concise! so many extremely funny bits in here and loved the gratuitous fanservice (cat interlude)
before i get too into this video, I just HAD to say YOUR OUTFIT SLAYS
I remember watching this show and just despising James the whole time while being absolutely on team Kendall
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW EXCITED I WAS TO SEE YOU POSTED THIS OMG
Never heard of BTR, but I like watching to support you
Great analysis! I loved this show when I was younger but the amount of cross dressing scenes never really hit me until you listed them all out.
This show was basically my queer awakening. I was 12 when it premiered and utterly obsessed with Kendall before realizing it was actually just attracted to him. The show has countless jokes about the guys coming across gay. James makes Kendall take a relationship quiz together. Mrs. Knight walks in on Logan and James hugging and flashes them a 🤨 a couple times in one episode. They all get offended when Katie thinks they don’t want to discuss hot men with her. I’m surely forgetting some others.
Then there’s an entire episode that’s an allegory for coming out of the closet. Big Time Secret. Kendall doesn’t want the guys to know he’s been figure skating since it’s not as masculine as hockey or whatever. They believe he’s hooking up with Camille since she’s his skating partner. He keeps this secret until the end of the episode where he reveals his shiny purple figure skating costume to his friends and they initially flip out before accepting him for who he is.
This show essentially introduced queer-baiting to me. I’ll be upset if they make a reunion episode because it’ll ruin my headcanon that they’ll all in a gay poly relationship with each other now.
I realize that the goofy tangents are nice actually. Some of the media’s gender things are a bit uncomfortable, so a tangent about boy bands or Manehatten seems like a bit of friendly distraction.
As a Warhammer 40k fan and a Big Time Rush fan, I want to assure you that everytime you said something to the effect of "I hope someone got and appreciated that reference" such as with the theme song thing in the intro...
That was me. I got it and appreciated.
And no I haven't tried Rogue Trader, waiting for a bit for the inevitable patches.
Shoutouts to Shane Topp's greatest role