I have absolutely no intention of buying a Gaming Laptop, maybe ever, but I keep watching these videos. I think it's the aesthetics lol. The thumbnails, the studio, Dave's minimalist approach to tech, everything just makes me click.
I have a Asus g16 3070 Ryzen 9 5900HS and it is worth the price. This is actually a warranty replacement for my 2019 Razer blade 15 which overheated. Don't buy razer blade, it sucks. While gaming on Turbo the CPU does get up to 96 degrees and GPU gets up to 70 degrees but that is probably because I haven't replaced the liquid metal. While on battery it is silent and hovers around 45-55 degrees. While plugged in it hovers at 60 degrees.
Them and lenovo. The past few years it was lenovo leading reliability but asus was leading innovation, this year asus also seems to have nailed reliability but according to jarrod's tech the Legion 7i this year is a downgrade from last year
I bought a g15 because I saw it on this channel and really liked what I saw. The thing came riddled with issues. I sent it to Asus twice to get them resolved and it would come back with the same issues, but all beat up(they even tried to charge me $400 to replace a screen they damaged) and with screws missing. I ended up getting stuck with the device because I can't in good conscious sell a lemon to someone else. They're great until you get one that's not. Just a word of caution. They're like every other company, greedy and ready to fuck you over given the chance.
I think it's because they're getting heavy discounts from Intel. They have an oversupply of chips and are basically selling at cost/at a loss to avoid losing marketshare to AMD. They've basically lost the sever chip war for now and so client (desktop/mobile) is all they got left.
@@tomoblasz2028 yes, around the same in europe, but still cheaper than the competitors, i.e. blade, alienware and damn msi titan costs around 6000! acer predator helios has a 18inch mini led screen, but from what I am not sure if its tdp is maxed out or if its a castrated version
I think that all depends how quickly Nvidia can get rid of overstocked 3000 series cards. Because they overestimated pent up demand from the silicone shortage and didn't see the crypto crash coming, they more 3000s than they can sell and if the 4000s are too attractive, they will never move them.
I can't wait for the 6700S/6800S G14 to go on sale for $800-$1200 😁 Now if someone can release a 1.8kg/4lb Ryzen laptop with vapor chamber cooled 110-125W graphics in a "big screen gaming ultrabook" format of 15.6 or 16 inches I'll scoop that up easy for $2000! 😘🙏
@@niko1even meanwhile DJI completely OWNS the cinema camera drone market and innovation has been stifling due to stupid laws and lacking competition (also lousy post sales service)
i love how they closed the gap between the strix and non strix so much, I never understood why there used to be so many differences in so similar named laptops anyways
Since they started pushing the limit and innovating with the duo I’ve been almost exclusively Asus. I have to put my money where it matters and a company that takes risks like them is where it’s at!!!! Love them and I hope they continue!!!
Same I bought a Pro Art Studiobook designed so well better battery life still great power my brother got asus parts for his desktop too they really just tend to make some of the best stuff out there no everything they touch but a lot of it is amazing
ASUS innovated with the EEE PC back in the day, and now they are bringing to market their own Steam Deck. They always liked to push the boundaries with great quality hardware, which is why my last two gaming laptops have been from ASUS, and the next one will be as well, whenever I manage to save enough to afford it.
@@BrianZuma I'm considering buy proart studiobook for my heavy creative work such as motion graphics, complex 4k video editing, colour grading and 3D modelling so want to know how has been your experience so far? Besides I heard from many that Asus's customer service is terrible as heck so I'm bit reluctant going that side
I saw in the comments that asus laptops has longevity issues and also saw a laptop repair youtuber saying they get asus laptops everyday. Can you tell how's your laptop holding up ?
I have one of the old Zephyrus models, and I love its performance but I wish there was something comparable with better build quality. Like if you had an XPS 15 but made it thicker and let ASUS design the cooling and put an rtx 4090 in it. Imagine something like the 16 inch macbook pro, but running windows with a 4090.
Bought a ton of the G15 and G17 laptops for work (dev laptops) and they have a very high failure rate. More than half have board issues after a while. Some after only 6 months, some after 2 years. Always the same issue, power chip failure. The cost/performance is great and they are awesome for a while, but longevity definitely an issue in my experience. Hope that isn't the case with the new generation.
@@amitpower9455 I have been doing procurement for my company for about 11 years and can speak only of my experience, but I will tell you what current policy is. We buy largely high-end machines for the technical team. On the DO NOT BUY list is Gigabyte (horrible build quality, bought 6 that all fell apart due to bad hinges), and MSI (tend to be too thin to cool properly, so they overheat and die early. Also bad hinges on some models). I still get Razers because some senior guys are devoted to them, but of the last 4 we got, 3 had battery bloat so bad it cracked the chassis. Currently trialing some HP units (Omen, Victus), so far so good on that front. HP has had a pretty decent success rate with us. The best laptops for the long term are Alienwares and Dell Precision workstations. They are super expensive, but the Alienwares in particular are built like tanks and have next business day support generally. Never had one fail on me ever. Have an 18 inch Alienware floating around that's been going for the better part of a decade. I have reluctantly had to add ASUS to the ban list recently. Just had a G17 fail after just 4 months.
@@amitpower9455 MSI Raider and Leopard series are pretty good. Don't know if leopard is out yet but usually the internals are very identical to the Raider laptops. Means if you buy a leopard laptop you get great cooling, a Mainboard that can handle overclocking and an overpowered power supply.
@@dant1786 Basically laptop won't turn on. I believe it's a short on the motherboard, either a particular power regulator chip is faulty or some other problem is shorting it. Can't remember which video it was but I think it's this one where the guy discusses it: ruclips.net/video/G_jl8EU83pY/видео.html . Had 2 repaired at a third party shop since they were out of warranty and the repair guy confirmed this is basically the case.
Now, the one thing they have to improve for next gen is the **Speakers!!** Both in volume and quality. Headphones is good for watching alone, external sound system is good while at home, but when travelling, the sound is just too low to overpower external noise.
damn asus is going crazy with these laptops, the only thing they are missing on is lightweight gaming mice market, they need a viper ultimate and g pro x cometitor
@@tomh1556 i looked it up and its technically good, but it looks like the most boring mouse ive ever seen, kinda strange considering they have all sorts of rgb even on budget mice
@Marat Pirate these range of mouse are for esport and just caters more to practicality, gpx, deathadder3pro,viper2 are not visually excitingas well, I've got both and looking forward to see how the asus&aimlab collab compares.
The aesthetic on the laptop body is very appealing especially the RGB lights, I don't mind the thickness of the body. The thinner the device the more difficult to cool the hardware. And it's a DDR 5 memory system, this is ideal for me.
The power efficiency of the 40 series mobile GPUs is very impressive. The mobile 4080 is as fast as the desktop 3080 in my PC but consumes 200 less watts of power.
I really miss when Dave would review assorted mainstream laptops instead of just premium gaming machines. I used his advice to make a purchase years ago and I just ended up watching his videos after because I found them informative and interesting.
I feel the same. In 2016 I got an DELL Inspiron 7559 after wathcing Dave's video for only $699 USD, and it has bacame the laptop I used for longest time by far--7 years in a row. I just switched to another DELL laptop -- Inspiron 16 Plus recently, since I no longer need a perfomance beast (gaming laptop), but leaning toward a device with good design and reasonable performance to fulfill my working demands.
Tbh work stations are far simpler than gaming set up. But also many people use a gaming device as their work station. For example this laptop you could just skin it black making it look professional. If you want good battery life well it's a fact laptop u either sacrifice battery for power or you don't. Going in between u might get the worst of 2. He's showed how xps are really good and on par with apple devices. Xps is a well known office type which is reviewed not long ago. But yeah moral is, office stations are far easier to build as u as you aren't thinking about watts, motherboard etc etc. It's just 8/16gb ram. I7 13700H. And customise what gpu u want, u can choose an integrated one or like a 4050 if you're a designer or something for about 2k. You don't have to worry/build much with office stations.
I’ve just got the Scar 18! It’s an absolute beast. Over 120fps ultra settings on Cyberpunk, RDR2, Dead Space and MW2/ Warzone. It’s loud on turbo but not hot and quite light considering. QHD screen is lovely
If you worked for ASUS and realized how much it costs to make one of these (production at scale) compared to selling one, you'd understand they are making a killing. They're sold out at a lot of places, and ASUS will produce another batch as orders exceed what they produce. Gone are the days of early 2000's where tech companies produce a bunch of product and then HOPE they sell out. WE are now in the era of digital-hype / marketing, and limited production releases.
I tried to get a strix 18 but all sold out unless you want to pay 3500.00+ from scalpers, lol. So I had to get the asus zephyrus 16 price tag at 3200.00..... I was about to pass until I seen a best buy open box for 2400.00 excellent condition 2tb . Talked to the salesman and he pulled 200.00 more off for a grand total of 2500.00 roughly after tax. Laptop is pristine no scratches and still smells new. Tried it with the new undisputed boxing game ran on (ultra) and battery drained from full to half for a 5 round fight, But it was smooth as eggs. Gonna definitely have it plugged in for that high performance gameplay. My last laptop was an hp omen 18" , 8th gen, and has the aluminum and graphite hard casing outside and around keyboard. This new one is mostly plastic and rgb keyboard only. Its smaller but more portable, big things come in small package.
Picked up a Legion 5 Pro with a Ryzen 6800H and 3070 Ti for 1300. I love when new stuff is about to come out and the outgoing current gen gets heavy heavy discounts.
I don't care about gaming very much, especially on laptops but i find gaming laptops to be extraordinary values when it comes to mobile workstations uses
Moments like this, living in Korea really sucks. If I go to stores, the best they have is like 3050 laptops, if I order online, I have to deal with scalpers increasing the price by like 500-700 dollars + shipping fees.
@@tatooine_dream Lenovo also has been doing great with their Legion series but I'd say their peak was in 2020-2021. Lenovo've got Legions and that is it. ASUS have a bigger range I'd say.
On the ASUS official site they say that the g18 has the nvidia 4080 at max, not the 4090, only the scar has that... Also it has 32gb ram and 2tera max memory while the scar has double that amount...
The M16 has me really intrigued. I'm currently running a first generation G14 that I preordered and it's serving me well, but I really want something with more performance and a bigger screen. All the upgrades this year sound really really good, but I hope they don't go too crazy with the pricing. Also, I'm a little hesitant because of the battery performance with the Intel processor. Only time will tell I guess
You're right. It seems Intel's battery life still can't touch AMD Ryzen 7000, which no brand seems to be putting into 16/18 inch laptops (apart from Dell/Alienware).
M16 4090 is less powerful than 4080 laptops, according to Time Spy and Port Royal benchmarks I've seen (Zephyrus M16 with 4090 scores something like 18k, meanwhile Acer Helios with a 4080 scores 19k).
The higher end version is actually called Strix SCAR 18 and not Strix SCAR G18 at 0:38 . And the G18 does not embedd the RTX 4080 but a RTX 4070 maximum 0:58. But apart from that, great video !
I never wanted a 17 or 18" notebook but the value of the G18 4080......I'm thinking about it... Now to just find a way to carry it around. Looking up suitcases now
Those are meant to be desktop replacements. Yes. they would offer slightly lower performance / value compared to desktops, but they come ready-to-use and are easier to maintain, require much less power, desk space and cable clutter, and have no extra hassles like UPSs etc.
It has to be the mini led, both seem to have similar color gamut coverage and response times but the brightness and contrast is just better on the mini led
@@cameronbosch1213 it’s because AMD is holding off on doing anything in the laptop segment until later this year. Same as how last year they were barely shipping anything.
Yeah Gigabyte, Aorus, and some Asus Vivobook Pro/Zenbook Pro Duo SKUs have OLED but battery life is kinda hit or miss depending on the specific model. MiniLED is a solid step forward for sure 👍
Just got the rog strix scar 16 for 2800$au (~1800$us) on market place, almost brand new. I9 13th gen 4080 32g ram 2 T ssd QHD+ with mini LED nebula hdr display So happy, no coil whine, everything perfect. I see this video, and i'm even more happy of my purchase! Thanks for the review Dave 🤙🏼
Can we do one episode of the best stealth performance laptop? I think there are people like me who do not like the RGB lighting and wants more of a stealth look. Thanks
Hey Dave: I’ve trusted your reviews for years and have bought products off your recommendations and have never been disappointed. When you mentioned the price, I thought for sure Asus cut corners somewhere. Of the 18” you stated it was “Arguably one of the best screens I’ve ever seen in the gaming laptop space.” Went over to BB using your affiliate link and all the reviews mentioned terrible back light bleed. On the fence as to whether to purchase this. Did you experience this in your review unit? Thanks!
Yeah, that's why I'm commenting. The BB reviews are ROUGH. 3 out of 5 stars for a $2500 laptop is def a no go. I really want an 18 inch gaming laptop, but I'm going to wait till companies get a clue that having an 18 screen isn't worth 3-4 grand.
same. there are so many reviews that comment how bad the screen is for them or other failures of the device. for me 2500 is the perfect price and i'd love to have these specs, but the reviews are making me second guess if i should actually buy it or not once i'm done saving up
@@An1hony The BB reviews are written by incompetent morons. None of them show backlight bleeding. What they show is IPS glow, which is completely normal and happens to *all* IPS displays. Classic case of people imagining a problem where there is none.
I remember that using the print screen key was different from using Win+Shift+S but I don't recall what the difference was. But now, I'm noticing that when using the Win+Shift+S shortcut it saves the file in the screenshot folder, something that wasn't happening before. Anyway, I'm not looking to upgrade my laptop because mine it's just a year old but it's always great to know that if someone needs a proper review from a laptop, Dave's channel is the best place to recommend.
I really wish they had an OLED option! How does the MiniLED compare to OLED in your opinion Dave? Especially when it comes to the blacks during black bars etc. And it's a matte screen, not glossy like OLED usually is (glossy is better for colors/contrast).
You can’t wait for eternity to get a new laptop. I have Scar15 with 2060 from 2019 and it is still very capable for gaming. Yours will last a long time as well. With it being only 1 year old you can still sell it for a decent price and get a new one if you want it really bad.
@@LowmanGames Not really. Usually price goes up for similar tiers of product, not down. They dropped at least $500 off based on similar last gen CPU and GPU config. And this isn't even same tier, it's a whole new, higher tier based on the 18" screen. Stoked for the people getting a great deal though.
Idk man, I can't justify spending more than $2000 on any laptop and even that's pushing it. The prices have shot up to insane amounts in just a couple years with these new cards Luckily I still have a 2021 Legion 7 with a 3070 that still runs well. Got it for $1300 on a Black Friday deal but even at MSRP I think it was $1800. At these new prices I might as well get a desktop
At this power and price level, just build a desktop. I got a G14 alongside my desktop since it has great battery life, is small, and can play most games when I do have to travel. It's the cheapest laptop that doesn't sacrifice battery, portability, and power, unless you need 1440p max settings for tripleA games.
i think if your looking at it as a portable desktop replacement its worth it, the desktop 3090 is $1500 alone and the laptop 4090 beats it and gives u portability, an amazing screen, keyboard etc
Complete BS. This Asus configuration is not available anywhere, and most sites say Out of Stock with no price shown. Last night I found it available at a well known website through an Asus certified resale company. I configured these exact specs and the price was $3K… Yes some might be lucky enough to buy the limited number of these units at $2500, but this tactic has long since become sickening. “Asus… a chip off the old nVidia block”
I don't recommend ASUS laptops. Having used MacBook Pro for the last 3 years, I finally decided to give windows laptop a try and My choice was Asus. And in 4th month, I can say that I quite regret that I bought this ASUS for many reasons. One problem by another, The experience with the Laptop gets worse and I'm already ready to switch back or check out something else.
I have 16inch AMD version of this last gen 6900 laptop. it really gets hot. while i was upgradng the ram i notice Asus just slap 16inch screen on 15inch motherboard and pack it on larger chassis. There was large unused space on the side near exhaust. What a creative Asus engineering. from the video this is no the case here
I agree it’s different device but I would go for Mac for anything except 3d - M chips can do raster but more expensive and no RT/optix renderer. Maybe ML if you rely on CUDA is off the shelf too. All else is the same but +3-6hr of battery life and a bit more reliability, but less repeatability and no upgrades. As much as I hate that fact Apple is just too good, they have to be nerfed.
@@dmitryburlakov6920 "M Chips can do faster" nice joke lol the top of the line M2 max is destroyed by i9 in real world task and also most of the scientific industry and 3d industry use windows not mac because they are garbage, only video editing and graphics designing are good in mac and for ML mac is utter trash so yeah if you are only youtuber mac is good 👍 but serious work linux amd windows is way to go and AV1 is also going mainstream so in future windows is going to be best than apple in video editing also
@@-Blue-_ I wrote “raster”, by which I mean rasterizing graphics pipeline as opposed to ray tracing / ray marching pipeline - where nVidia, not Intel, have really serious advancements (same goes for CUDA). All else is just bullshit. Wow desktop 125W processor is faster than mobile 20W chip very cool awesome bro. AV1 yeah definitely almost like avx 512 on x86-64 will change the industry because it’s not like as soon as 512 kicks in frequencies go 800mhz. (Nothing wrong with av just they weren’t specifically successful with their previous endeavours in accelerating numbers crunching) First step to really improve is to acknowledge that years of development lead Intel to stagnation, and fortunately unlike you people at Intel seem to understand that, but truth is it’ll take some precious years till they achieve similar results. During those years I advice using macs if person needs extra mobile power and is alright with mac, thats it. But marketing feeds fanboys with copium, alright good job Intel, need to pump that sales to do real R&D instead of useless work of last years. Praying for fanboys to not have microcode updates that will turn their i9 to Athlon 2 again.
I love your videos Dave, but this one was outstanding, maybe because of your enthusiasm and energy, but I love it, and since I’ve been looking for a good gaming laptop, I felt very appealed to get one pf those. Again great video!
Honestly I've been waiting from something like this, a laptop that has everything I want with a price that's not ludicorous, great review and great job ASUS! p.s, how loud is keyboard? It wasn't mentioned in the review so I just wanted to know.
@@Sr1njan Honestly, a 500$ markup for a new product isn't too bad given the Indian market and import tax, but yes, definetly not as economic as buying one in the US.
@Srinjan Dey I'd buy from bestbuy, go for a forward company and import declaring at 1500 or so. 42%tax for laptop is limiting innovation. Don't tell me that'gaming laptops' are just toys, there's no better time to mess around with that and getting into tech than highschool-uni. For machine learning u still need one even if u don't game at all. Most people in India are forced to buy 5years old business laptops that does nothing comfortably more than webdev
I'm from Italy but I watch 90% foreign youtubers. When I see this reviews I might get excited but then I remember that in Europe the "2499$" translates in at least "2999€" 😢
as someone who cant spend over 2k on a laptop but wants something that looks good and performs well, im really hoping the 4050 g16 isnt too expensive, since its using the old m16 chasis + even could use a 12th gen cpu itll really help bring the price down and i really hope i can get it
I'd say beware of Asus guys, I bought the 2021 Zephyrus G15 after glowing reviews. And it was pretty darn great. However, after a year, exactly 1 month after the warranty ended, it has begun falling apart and there's not much I can do. First the entire keyboard needed to be replaced, now the speakers are busted and some software stuff like being unable to switch to the integrated GPU and being unable to put on Sleep mode means the battery life just isn't there anymore.
65w sustained performance for the CPU on the G18 is nice! I'm using an LG Gram right now but it's sustained 20 watt is just not enough. 3kg (18 inch) vs 1.3kg (17 inch) though
Solid state active cooling is about to come onto the scene and I'm very excited for the potential. Frore Systems demonstrated a working prototype of an SSAC module called the AirJet at CES last month and it looks revolutionary. We could soon see actual gaming laptops in Macbook Air sized form factors and fanless handheld gaming devices.
Solid state active cooling is a gimmick. We need better chips to run Windows on, and we need them now. MacBook M1 Air has awesome performance without active cooling.
Dave if you were getting this with software development as the primary use and a good keyboard being your priority, would you get this or a MacBook Pro? Do you put this keyboard on the level of a MacBook Pro I guess is what I’m asking.
The lower power units keeping up with the 175w unit means something is not working on that higher power unit somewhere. Not sure what the bottleneck is with such a good cooling system...
Assuming here: CPU bottleneck. Everyone’s been bringing it up in 4000 series laptops reviews in the context of 1080p, I’m guessing it’s also affecting the ability of the GPU to take advantage of the bigger power budget.
MSI Raider and titan series sold for more with less because it could deliver and sustain 175 W power with some aesthetics as well. This product crushed that advantage many times over. Love to see this kind of competition. My gut is telling me they are selling this laptop without profit or something or maybe with a little loss (very little chance). Just one thing I am waiting for before I buy is did they cut corner? Subpar components? Let's wait and write down this laptop model number in Google calendar 👍
I’m really hoping for a good price point on a 4080 M16. I have the 3060 M16 from last year and this years model corrects the issues I had with last years. Hope you do a full on review of one soon!
Hi Dave, please, when you're putting the resolution of the screen, in brackets put the aspect ratio too! it would be a great help and depending on the people, either a pro/con for it being either way. I personally love their decision to go with a 16:10 aspect ratio. Even though many people would want it to be 16:9.
Dave, I love your reviews so much. Everything from how you present yourself, through to the video production. But in this case, I want to express concern for anyone considering the G18. I can't presume to know, but perhaps you were shipped products that had just that little bit of extra quality control, because what is being stocked in shelves seems like an entirely different product. I've lost count of the number of G18s that have abysmal screen issues, and that's not an exaggeration, I really did encounter so many cases that I should have noted the number of them. I don't know for certain if it's compression of material, or changes in heat states, but I do want to just issue this word of caution in that matter. Internals and performance wise, they do seem to be fantastic, but there might be a legitimate QC issue at the moment re:screens.
Just ordered a Strix Scar 18... Can't wait to try how much better it would be than the G17 from 2021 with rtx3070 model that already does a great job on 3d modeling and rendering stuff.
@@briansmith4241 Same in an ideal world I wouldn't want to spend more than 2500 dollars on these laptops but even on the most expensive end I wouldn't want to spend more than say 3000 on these before taxes. I really hate the pricing on these.
Awe man i was really hoping this was gonna be the laptop to get, but after seeing the reviews, and the issues with the screen, I'm back to square one. Strix, what used to be a high end laptop, is all over the place this year, the cheapest model is selling without the numberpad and even withou the numerpad on the tochpad and not saying anything about it. Very sad thing to see, not even the expensive one was worth it, what is the next option? Legion is looking good so hoping for that, have to get a replacement laptop soon...
depends theres like very budget(under 800) budget(under 1k) decent budget(under 1.4) good budget(1.6) big budget(2k) and anything over u dont have money problems so whats ur budget?
Hi Dave :) What's about coil whine sound on the scar? And black screen bug? And weird sound during scrolling? Do you not noticed that? ruclips.net/video/aDbcTye6z0Y/видео.html
I've just ordered the Scar 18, I can't wait. It's arriving tomorrow. I'm finally upgrading my ancient and slow HP Omen laptop from 2017. Thank you for this review!
The Asus company is God-send. WIthout Asus/Rog we'd be 5 year behind in laptop tech/pricing/value/thermal/performace. The pushes it to the limit and set the standard for others to follow.
I only wish Asus kept the charger/hdmi/ethernet/extra usbs ports on the back of the device. It makes it so clean not having a bunch of wires all around my machine.
The cooling system looks really quite interesting. On the downside it is one more fan to potentially go wrong. Saying this as someone who had the fans replaced on a Legion laptop after a year of use because of a noisy bearing.
...and here in germany the g18 with i7 and RTX 4050 (!) starts at 1999 EUR, which is already 2100 USD... I dont even want to think about how expensive the 4080/4090 versions will be once available.
I'd order one from Best Buy right now if they were in stock. Reminds me of the Strix with the 3070 that I could never get my hands on. Ended up with the Zephyrus instead.
I have a 4k 120hz screen with a 3080 on my Zephyrus G15 2022 and I payed 2k for it. 1999 to be exact. 5 months ago. Still loving the hell out of it and although this generation is indeed impressive, I'm not looking forward to changing anytime soon.
Smart move shifting the power port to the side rather than at the back, though the back is more convenient. The amount of heat being pumped out the back literally melted parts inside the power port. Took my 2022 G15 scar back under warranty twice.
nothing beats the Strix G18 right now for cost/performance
What's your recommend for 1500 CAD laptop
@@Yaysir save more money
Alienware m16 qhd 240 hz similar specs $100 more expensive . Dave maybe a comparison
Is it good for video editing and rendering?
Do win+shift+s instead of printscrn. It's much better.
I have absolutely no intention of buying a Gaming Laptop, maybe ever, but I keep watching these videos. I think it's the aesthetics lol. The thumbnails, the studio, Dave's minimalist approach to tech, everything just makes me click.
Haha same
His middle name has to be CLEAN
This is my group, would never buy but I love the content and the creator
I wouldn't mind when the price goes down. But it be such a waste not game on it. I doubt I have the time to anymore. May be editing. 🫣
I have a Asus g16 3070 Ryzen 9 5900HS and it is worth the price. This is actually a warranty replacement for my 2019 Razer blade 15 which overheated. Don't buy razer blade, it sucks. While gaming on Turbo the CPU does get up to 96 degrees and GPU gets up to 70 degrees but that is probably because I haven't replaced the liquid metal. While on battery it is silent and hovers around 45-55 degrees. While plugged in it hovers at 60 degrees.
Its always freakin' ASUS that really pushes the industry standard.
Yea Asus is amazing they are my favourite tech company
the g14 🤤🤤
Them and lenovo. The past few years it was lenovo leading reliability but asus was leading innovation, this year asus also seems to have nailed reliability but according to jarrod's tech the Legion 7i this year is a downgrade from last year
@@DarkestKnightshade maybe for you.. but Lenovo has been trash for years
I bought a g15 because I saw it on this channel and really liked what I saw. The thing came riddled with issues. I sent it to Asus twice to get them resolved and it would come back with the same issues, but all beat up(they even tried to charge me $400 to replace a screen they damaged) and with screws missing.
I ended up getting stuck with the device because I can't in good conscious sell a lemon to someone else.
They're great until you get one that's not. Just a word of caution. They're like every other company, greedy and ready to fuck you over given the chance.
their aggressive pricing on the 4080 strix gives me hope for their 4060/4070 laptops in terms of reasonable pricing.
I think it's because they're getting heavy discounts from Intel. They have an oversupply of chips and are basically selling at cost/at a loss to avoid losing marketshare to AMD. They've basically lost the sever chip war for now and so client (desktop/mobile) is all they got left.
Strix 16 cost about 4100us dollars in UK. Not great pricing outside US
@@tomoblasz2028 yes, around the same in europe, but still cheaper than the competitors, i.e. blade, alienware and damn msi titan costs around 6000! acer predator helios has a 18inch mini led screen, but from what I am not sure if its tdp is maxed out or if its a castrated version
I think that all depends how quickly Nvidia can get rid of overstocked 3000 series cards. Because they overestimated pent up demand from the silicone shortage and didn't see the crypto crash coming, they more 3000s than they can sell and if the 4000s are too attractive, they will never move them.
I can't wait for the 6700S/6800S G14 to go on sale for $800-$1200 😁
Now if someone can release a 1.8kg/4lb Ryzen laptop with vapor chamber cooled 110-125W graphics in a "big screen gaming ultrabook" format of 15.6 or 16 inches I'll scoop that up easy for $2000! 😘🙏
Insane how much gaming laptops have improved over just the last 5-ish years
It's all thanks to AMD pre-covid
Yes, very crazy !
Ryzen was released around that same time. This is why competition is so important in the PC market, it's a win-win for us consumers.
@@niko1even meanwhile DJI completely OWNS the cinema camera drone market and innovation has been stifling due to stupid laws and lacking competition (also lousy post sales service)
still running on y510p, expecting hard drive to get rekt any day
i love how they closed the gap between the strix and non strix so much, I never understood why there used to be so many differences in so similar named laptops anyways
2k 240hz mini-LED with a 4090 is kind of mind blowing
2k?
Wallet blowing too
@@captainkirk3000 QHD
@@myname3305 2040 x 1080p is 2k aka DCI 1080p, 1440p should be called QHD or 2.5k not 1080p.
That sounds like a fantasy
Since they started pushing the limit and innovating with the duo I’ve been almost exclusively Asus. I have to put my money where it matters and a company that takes risks like them is where it’s at!!!!
Love them and I hope they continue!!!
Same I bought a
Pro Art Studiobook designed so well better battery life still great power my brother got asus parts for his desktop too they really just tend to make some of the best stuff out there no everything they touch but a lot of it is amazing
ASUS innovated with the EEE PC back in the day, and now they are bringing to market their own Steam Deck. They always liked to push the boundaries with great quality hardware, which is why my last two gaming laptops have been from ASUS, and the next one will be as well, whenever I manage to save enough to afford it.
They are the Hyundai-kia of computer industry
@@BrianZuma I'm considering buy proart studiobook for my heavy creative work such as motion graphics, complex 4k video editing, colour grading and 3D modelling so want to know how has been your experience so far? Besides I heard from many that Asus's customer service is terrible as heck so I'm bit reluctant going that side
Wonderful laptops until your motherboard, screen, GPU and fans stop working! 100% will buy twice.
I'm very happy to see the old Dave is back, perhaps these products are so good, he's really excited about it. Been awhile.
I have the 2019 Strix G17 and I'm so amazed how far this series have recently come, will upgrade soon, so aggressive pricing is superb
they said that these pricing - new standard but we will see
I saw in the comments that asus laptops has longevity issues and also saw a laptop repair youtuber saying they get asus laptops everyday. Can you tell how's your laptop holding up ?
@@goodboy-fo5rqI think he has lost it too
Recently purchased the Zephyrus G15 but damn, this looks amazing.
I have one of the old Zephyrus models, and I love its performance but I wish there was something comparable with better build quality. Like if you had an XPS 15 but made it thicker and let ASUS design the cooling and put an rtx 4090 in it. Imagine something like the 16 inch macbook pro, but running windows with a 4090.
What a dream, you read my mind. The closest to what you just described is the legion slim 7
You're describing the Razer Blade series. Literally the Blades.
That's the M16
The newest zephyrus g14 can have a 4090 inside
Manufacturers: No! It's a review unit you have to treat it with respect!
Dave2D: Hehe, light blue spray paint go shhhhhhh.
Bought a ton of the G15 and G17 laptops for work (dev laptops) and they have a very high failure rate. More than half have board issues after a while. Some after only 6 months, some after 2 years. Always the same issue, power chip failure. The cost/performance is great and they are awesome for a while, but longevity definitely an issue in my experience. Hope that isn't the case with the new generation.
Which laptop would you suggest then??
@@amitpower9455 I have been doing procurement for my company for about 11 years and can speak only of my experience, but I will tell you what current policy is. We buy largely high-end machines for the technical team. On the DO NOT BUY list is Gigabyte (horrible build quality, bought 6 that all fell apart due to bad hinges), and MSI (tend to be too thin to cool properly, so they overheat and die early. Also bad hinges on some models). I still get Razers because some senior guys are devoted to them, but of the last 4 we got, 3 had battery bloat so bad it cracked the chassis. Currently trialing some HP units (Omen, Victus), so far so good on that front. HP has had a pretty decent success rate with us. The best laptops for the long term are Alienwares and Dell Precision workstations. They are super expensive, but the Alienwares in particular are built like tanks and have next business day support generally. Never had one fail on me ever. Have an 18 inch Alienware floating around that's been going for the better part of a decade. I have reluctantly had to add ASUS to the ban list recently. Just had a G17 fail after just 4 months.
@@amitpower9455 MSI Raider and Leopard series are pretty good.
Don't know if leopard is out yet but usually the internals are very identical to the Raider laptops.
Means if you buy a leopard laptop you get great cooling, a Mainboard that can handle overclocking and an overpowered power supply.
Could you please describe the problem of power chip failure in depth? I am very curious about it.
@@dant1786 Basically laptop won't turn on. I believe it's a short on the motherboard, either a particular power regulator chip is faulty or some other problem is shorting it. Can't remember which video it was but I think it's this one where the guy discusses it: ruclips.net/video/G_jl8EU83pY/видео.html . Had 2 repaired at a third party shop since they were out of warranty and the repair guy confirmed this is basically the case.
Now, the one thing they have to improve for next gen is the **Speakers!!** Both in volume and quality. Headphones is good for watching alone, external sound system is good while at home, but when travelling, the sound is just too low to overpower external noise.
When Dave runs out of breath, you know he’s found a good laptop
damn asus is going crazy with these laptops, the only thing they are missing on is lightweight gaming mice market, they need a viper ultimate and g pro x cometitor
They already came out with the ROG harpe Ace mouse at 54 grams
@@tomh1556 i looked it up and its technically good, but it looks like the most boring mouse ive ever seen, kinda strange considering they have all sorts of rgb even on budget mice
@Marat Pirate these range of mouse are for esport and just caters more to practicality, gpx, deathadder3pro,viper2 are not visually excitingas well, I've got both and looking forward to see how the asus&aimlab collab compares.
@@maratpirate6343 Buy a mouse for how well you can drive it, not what it looks like. Don't be that guy.
The aesthetic on the laptop body is very appealing especially the RGB lights, I don't mind the thickness of the body. The thinner the device the more difficult to cool the hardware. And it's a DDR 5 memory system, this is ideal for me.
The power efficiency of the 40 series mobile GPUs is very impressive. The mobile 4080 is as fast as the desktop 3080 in my PC but consumes 200 less watts of power.
I really miss when Dave would review assorted mainstream laptops instead of just premium gaming machines. I used his advice to make a purchase years ago and I just ended up watching his videos after because I found them informative and interesting.
I feel the same. In 2016 I got an DELL Inspiron 7559 after wathcing Dave's video for only $699 USD, and it has bacame the laptop I used for longest time by far--7 years in a row. I just switched to another DELL laptop -- Inspiron 16 Plus recently, since I no longer need a perfomance beast (gaming laptop), but leaning toward a device with good design and reasonable performance to fulfill my working demands.
Tbh work stations are far simpler than gaming set up. But also many people use a gaming device as their work station. For example this laptop you could just skin it black making it look professional. If you want good battery life well it's a fact laptop u either sacrifice battery for power or you don't. Going in between u might get the worst of 2. He's showed how xps are really good and on par with apple devices. Xps is a well known office type which is reviewed not long ago. But yeah moral is, office stations are far easier to build as u as you aren't thinking about watts, motherboard etc etc. It's just 8/16gb ram. I7 13700H. And customise what gpu u want, u can choose an integrated one or like a 4050 if you're a designer or something for about 2k. You don't have to worry/build much with office stations.
Feel the same, even the Strix Series have 4060 and 4070 models that are not covered in this Video.
I’ve just got the Scar 18! It’s an absolute beast. Over 120fps ultra settings on Cyberpunk, RDR2, Dead Space and MW2/ Warzone. It’s loud on turbo but not hot and quite light considering. QHD screen is lovely
why did you not get predator helios with the mini led 18 inch screen?
@@batmanonholiday4477 not a fan of the predator
Nice dude you have the 4090?
@@samer3li844 yeah. It’s awesome
@@davidbryant7300 nice I will try to buy one soon have fun with yours mate
I keep reminding myself Dave is a whole father, his excitement everytime he does a video is almost childlike it makes me enjoy the video 100x more
I'm genuinely curious if releasing a new system every year is viable long term. Feels like something that would make a loss or break even at best
If you worked for ASUS and realized how much it costs to make one of these (production at scale) compared to selling one, you'd understand they are making a killing. They're sold out at a lot of places, and ASUS will produce another batch as orders exceed what they produce. Gone are the days of early 2000's where tech companies produce a bunch of product and then HOPE they sell out. WE are now in the era of digital-hype / marketing, and limited production releases.
@@mangaas So, they don't create more unless people pay them first???
Laptops are disposables. People buy every 2 years, if not every year on rich western countries. These companies will be fine.
Dave rocks that "just got out of bed look".
I tried to get a strix 18 but all sold out unless you want to pay 3500.00+ from scalpers, lol. So I had to get the asus zephyrus 16 price tag at 3200.00..... I was about to pass until I seen a best buy open box for 2400.00 excellent condition 2tb . Talked to the salesman and he pulled 200.00 more off for a grand total of 2500.00 roughly after tax. Laptop is pristine no scratches and still smells new. Tried it with the new undisputed boxing game ran on (ultra) and battery drained from full to half for a 5 round fight, But it was smooth as eggs. Gonna definitely have it plugged in for that high performance gameplay. My last laptop was an hp omen 18" , 8th gen, and has the aluminum and graphite hard casing outside and around keyboard. This new one is mostly plastic and rgb keyboard only. Its smaller but more portable, big things come in small package.
How was the omen. Thinking of 17 but ppp say the cpu is cooking hot. Also do you have coil whine ?
2:14 researchers says that making the RGB blue increases cooling by 30%
I got my 22 scar with the 3080 and core i9 12th gen for 1400… pretty sweet deal
Picked up a Legion 5 Pro with a Ryzen 6800H and 3070 Ti for 1300. I love when new stuff is about to come out and the outgoing current gen gets heavy heavy discounts.
I don't care about gaming very much, especially on laptops but i find gaming laptops to be extraordinary values when it comes to mobile workstations uses
Moments like this, living in Korea really sucks. If I go to stores, the best they have is like 3050 laptops, if I order online, I have to deal with scalpers increasing the price by like 500-700 dollars + shipping fees.
Dave PLEASE REVIEW THERMALS with laptop with their lid closed. It si so important for many of us who like to keep the laptop on a vertical stand
the coil whine is something they need to fix sometime soon, since its there on all ROG products, and it gets worse over time (like 1 or 2 years later)
Nice Review Dave, for us content creators, what Laptop will you recommend that’s fast and powerful and not as heavy or bulky as a gaming laptop?
i think a macbook pro series will do just fine
Don't think I've missed even a single dave 2d video in the last 6 years
Thanks for the memo Dave! Our prices have been slashed. Our price/performance is now incomparable. It's go time!
Someone let me know how the speakers sound. Not gonna get my hopes up, but they're the things that have been holding me back this whole time.
ASUS have been the absolute killer in the laptop market for several years. It's amazing that they're still able to outperform themselves every year.
Also in phones, the Zenfone 9 and ROG phone both seem very good.
2021-2022 were lenovo's years for gaming laptops. not so sure for 2023
@@tatooine_dream Lenovo also has been doing great with their Legion series but I'd say their peak was in 2020-2021. Lenovo've got Legions and that is it. ASUS have a bigger range I'd say.
On the ASUS official site they say that the g18 has the nvidia 4080 at max, not the 4090, only the scar has that... Also it has 32gb ram and 2tera max memory while the scar has double that amount...
Just ordered the 4080 Scar with 32gb and 1TB. You can upgrade the ram, but the price is obscene.
The M16 has me really intrigued. I'm currently running a first generation G14 that I preordered and it's serving me well, but I really want something with more performance and a bigger screen. All the upgrades this year sound really really good, but I hope they don't go too crazy with the pricing. Also, I'm a little hesitant because of the battery performance with the Intel processor. Only time will tell I guess
how's your g14 holding up? any noticeable decline in performance or temps?
How does a fucking clown spend 12 minutes talking about a laptop and not mention the battery? Is this even real life.
@@Inverified because it’s an engineering sample so it wouldn’t be useful information
You're right. It seems Intel's battery life still can't touch AMD Ryzen 7000, which no brand seems to be putting into 16/18 inch laptops (apart from Dell/Alienware).
M16 4090 is less powerful than 4080 laptops, according to Time Spy and Port Royal benchmarks I've seen (Zephyrus M16 with 4090 scores something like 18k, meanwhile Acer Helios with a 4080 scores 19k).
For anyone wondering. I bought the 4090 rog strix 18’ and the octane bench score is 752.19
Any coil whine
The higher end version is actually called Strix SCAR 18 and not Strix SCAR G18 at 0:38 . And the G18 does not embedd the RTX 4080 but a RTX 4070 maximum 0:58. But apart from that, great video !
We need more reviews for the business lines though e.g. Dell Precision, HP Zbooks. It's an unfilled content space.
If Asus slapped an OLED screen into this it would sell like hotcakes.
Hopefully they do
I never wanted a 17 or 18" notebook but the value of the G18 4080......I'm thinking about it...
Now to just find a way to carry it around. Looking up suitcases now
Those are meant to be desktop replacements. Yes. they would offer slightly lower performance / value compared to desktops, but they come ready-to-use and are easier to maintain, require much less power, desk space and cable clutter, and have no extra hassles like UPSs etc.
A satchel, backpack, or carrying case would work. Whatever could fit a thick college textbook would probably fit this.
I had a 17 inch laptop I had to carry with me everywhere and Ill never go above 15 now... 17 and above is just to big to lug around all the time IMO.
Heads Up on buying an ASUS! most were recalled due to screen problems after a month's use, particularly in SEA.
Great rundown mate as always, just wondering what is a better screen in your opinion, the 18 or 16 mini LED?
It has to be the mini led, both seem to have similar color gamut coverage and response times but the brightness and contrast is just better on the mini led
3.5 hour of casual-use battery life is brutal, especially when ASUS is known for the longest runtimes in the industry.
It's because they and pretty much everybody else aren't using AMD Ryzen this year for 16/18 inch laptops, which is so ridiculous.
@@cameronbosch1213 it’s because AMD is holding off on doing anything in the laptop segment until later this year. Same as how last year they were barely shipping anything.
@@levygaming3133 Still, that screws over us consumers...
We need gaming laptops to step it up with OLED or Mini LED.
The scar 16 can be equipped with a mini led screen
the MSI GE always had an OLED option.
I have been told that this year's MSI GT77 Titan has a 4K 1000 local dimming zone Mini-LED screen.
Yeah Gigabyte, Aorus, and some Asus Vivobook Pro/Zenbook Pro Duo SKUs have OLED but battery life is kinda hit or miss depending on the specific model. MiniLED is a solid step forward for sure 👍
It's gonna be even more expensive then you're gonna complain about it somehow
Just got the rog strix scar 16 for 2800$au (~1800$us) on market place, almost brand new.
I9 13th gen
4080
32g ram
2 T ssd
QHD+ with mini LED nebula hdr display
So happy, no coil whine, everything perfect. I see this video, and i'm even more happy of my purchase!
Thanks for the review Dave 🤙🏼
Can we do one episode of the best stealth performance laptop? I think there are people like me who do not like the RGB lighting and wants more of a stealth look. Thanks
Hey Dave: I’ve trusted your reviews for years and have bought products off your recommendations and have never been disappointed. When you mentioned the price, I thought for sure Asus cut corners somewhere. Of the 18” you stated it was “Arguably one of the best screens I’ve ever seen in the gaming laptop space.” Went over to BB using your affiliate link and all the reviews mentioned terrible back light bleed. On the fence as to whether to purchase this. Did you experience this in your review unit? Thanks!
same...
Yeah, that's why I'm commenting. The BB reviews are ROUGH. 3 out of 5 stars for a $2500 laptop is def a no go. I really want an 18 inch gaming laptop, but I'm going to wait till companies get a clue that having an 18 screen isn't worth 3-4 grand.
same. there are so many reviews that comment how bad the screen is for them or other failures of the device. for me 2500 is the perfect price and i'd love to have these specs, but the reviews are making me second guess if i should actually buy it or not once i'm done saving up
@@An1hony The BB reviews are written by incompetent morons. None of them show backlight bleeding. What they show is IPS glow, which is completely normal and happens to *all* IPS displays. Classic case of people imagining a problem where there is none.
I remember that using the print screen key was different from using Win+Shift+S but I don't recall what the difference was. But now, I'm noticing that when using the Win+Shift+S shortcut it saves the file in the screenshot folder, something that wasn't happening before. Anyway, I'm not looking to upgrade my laptop because mine it's just a year old but it's always great to know that if someone needs a proper review from a laptop, Dave's channel is the best place to recommend.
You can change that
I really wish they had an OLED option! How does the MiniLED compare to OLED in your opinion Dave? Especially when it comes to the blacks during black bars etc. And it's a matte screen, not glossy like OLED usually is (glossy is better for colors/contrast).
Please make a video about best gaming laptops for this year
Dave3D is the “ASUS” of “tech” RUclips… bringing that sweet, sweet value to us “time crunched” viewers.
The fact that this is cheaper, bigger, better than the Scar 17 I bought last year is devastating
You can’t wait for eternity to get a new laptop. I have Scar15 with 2060 from 2019 and it is still very capable for gaming. Yours will last a long time as well. With it being only 1 year old you can still sell it for a decent price and get a new one if you want it really bad.
It works that way for people who purchase a machine every year.
@@LowmanGames Not really. Usually price goes up for similar tiers of product, not down. They dropped at least $500 off based on similar last gen CPU and GPU config. And this isn't even same tier, it's a whole new, higher tier based on the 18" screen. Stoked for the people getting a great deal though.
Idk man, I can't justify spending more than $2000 on any laptop and even that's pushing it. The prices have shot up to insane amounts in just a couple years with these new cards
Luckily I still have a 2021 Legion 7 with a 3070 that still runs well. Got it for $1300 on a Black Friday deal but even at MSRP I think it was $1800. At these new prices I might as well get a desktop
I mean, you won’t need em
At this power and price level, just build a desktop. I got a G14 alongside my desktop since it has great battery life, is small, and can play most games when I do have to travel. It's the cheapest laptop that doesn't sacrifice battery, portability, and power, unless you need 1440p max settings for tripleA games.
just wait a year and they will be well below 2k, that's what I plan on doing
@@nateTrh because desktops are exactly as laptops 🙄
i think if your looking at it as a portable desktop replacement its worth it, the desktop 3090 is $1500 alone and the laptop 4090 beats it and gives u portability, an amazing screen, keyboard etc
Complete BS. This Asus configuration is not available anywhere, and most sites say Out of Stock with no price shown. Last night I found it available at a well known website through an Asus certified resale company. I configured these exact specs and the price was $3K…
Yes some might be lucky enough to buy the limited number of these units at $2500, but this tactic has long since become sickening. “Asus… a chip off the old nVidia block”
I don't recommend ASUS laptops. Having used MacBook Pro for the last 3 years, I finally decided to give windows laptop a try and My choice was Asus. And in 4th month, I can say that I quite regret that I bought this ASUS for many reasons. One problem by another, The experience with the Laptop gets worse and I'm already ready to switch back or check out something else.
I have 16inch AMD version of this last gen 6900 laptop. it really gets hot. while i was upgradng the ram i notice Asus just slap 16inch screen on 15inch motherboard and pack it on larger chassis. There was large unused space on the side near exhaust. What a creative Asus engineering. from the video this is no the case here
Could you compare this with the M2 MacBook Pro chip? It would be an amazing productivity match between this two platforms
it's an apple to orange comparison, they can't directly compete. Apple for video editing, Windows for anything else.
I agree it’s different device but I would go for Mac for anything except 3d - M chips can do raster but more expensive and no RT/optix renderer. Maybe ML if you rely on CUDA is off the shelf too. All else is the same but +3-6hr of battery life and a bit more reliability, but less repeatability and no upgrades. As much as I hate that fact Apple is just too good, they have to be nerfed.
@@dmitryburlakov6920 "M Chips can do faster" nice joke lol the top of the line M2 max is destroyed by i9 in real world task and also most of the scientific industry and 3d industry use windows not mac because they are garbage, only video editing and graphics designing are good in mac and for ML mac is utter trash so yeah if you are only youtuber mac is good 👍 but serious work linux amd windows is way to go and AV1 is also going mainstream so in future windows is going to be best than apple in video editing also
@@-Blue-_ I wrote “raster”, by which I mean rasterizing graphics pipeline as opposed to ray tracing / ray marching pipeline - where nVidia, not Intel, have really serious advancements (same goes for CUDA). All else is just bullshit. Wow desktop 125W processor is faster than mobile 20W chip very cool awesome bro. AV1 yeah definitely almost like avx 512 on x86-64 will change the industry because it’s not like as soon as 512 kicks in frequencies go 800mhz. (Nothing wrong with av just they weren’t specifically successful with their previous endeavours in accelerating numbers crunching)
First step to really improve is to acknowledge that years of development lead Intel to stagnation, and fortunately unlike you people at Intel seem to understand that, but truth is it’ll take some precious years till they achieve similar results. During those years I advice using macs if person needs extra mobile power and is alright with mac, thats it. But marketing feeds fanboys with copium, alright good job Intel, need to pump that sales to do real R&D instead of useless work of last years. Praying for fanboys to not have microcode updates that will turn their i9 to Athlon 2 again.
I love your videos Dave, but this one was outstanding, maybe because of your enthusiasm and energy, but I love it, and since I’ve been looking for a good gaming laptop, I felt very appealed to get one pf those. Again great video!
Honestly I've been waiting from something like this, a laptop that has everything I want with a price that's not ludicorous, great review and great job ASUS!
p.s, how loud is keyboard? It wasn't mentioned in the review so I just wanted to know.
It'll be priced 2.5 lakhs in India smh
@@Sr1njan Honestly, a 500$ markup for a new product isn't too bad given the Indian market and import tax, but yes, definetly not as economic as buying one in the US.
@Srinjan Dey I'd buy from bestbuy, go for a forward company and import declaring at 1500 or so. 42%tax for laptop is limiting innovation. Don't tell me that'gaming laptops' are just toys, there's no better time to mess around with that and getting into tech than highschool-uni. For machine learning u still need one even if u don't game at all.
Most people in India are forced to buy 5years old business laptops that does nothing comfortably more than webdev
You can't get it now , will be 4200 next week 😂
He did mention that the chassis is the same, could check out the previous versions vid to see if he mentions it (me too lazy lol)
I'm from Italy but I watch 90% foreign youtubers. When I see this reviews I might get excited but then I remember that in Europe the "2499$" translates in at least "2999€" 😢
Why does he look so cuddly in here 🥺❤
as someone who cant spend over 2k on a laptop but wants something that looks good and performs well, im really hoping the 4050 g16 isnt too expensive, since its using the old m16 chasis + even could use a 12th gen cpu itll really help bring the price down and i really hope i can get it
Get the msi cyborg it's 1000$
But why get a 4050 vs a 3070 To or 3080/Ti on discount? They'll be comparably priced and more powerful.
@@RyneLanders dlss3.
@@jackmaks even with dlss 3 it might just match the 30 series gpu, and it's fake frames. might as well go cheaper and raw power
dlss 3 and
fake frame generation?
Lmfaoooo
Really loving the designs of the strix series.
A 150W 4090 in a thin Zephyrus is mind boggling
That's because it's not a 4090, it's a 4090 Laptop, which is a 4080
@@Shotblur I think he knows
I hope we can get a proper comparison of the Zephyrus M16 vs Blade 16 in future.
I'd say beware of Asus guys, I bought the 2021 Zephyrus G15 after glowing reviews. And it was pretty darn great.
However, after a year, exactly 1 month after the warranty ended, it has begun falling apart and there's not much I can do. First the entire keyboard needed to be replaced, now the speakers are busted and some software stuff like being unable to switch to the integrated GPU and being unable to put on Sleep mode means the battery life just isn't there anymore.
65w sustained performance for the CPU on the G18 is nice! I'm using an LG Gram right now but it's sustained 20 watt is just not enough. 3kg (18 inch) vs 1.3kg (17 inch) though
gram isnt for performance, who knew
Solid state active cooling is about to come onto the scene and I'm very excited for the potential. Frore Systems demonstrated a working prototype of an SSAC module called the AirJet at CES last month and it looks revolutionary. We could soon see actual gaming laptops in Macbook Air sized form factors and fanless handheld gaming devices.
Solid state active cooling is a gimmick. We need better chips to run Windows on, and we need them now.
MacBook M1 Air has awesome performance without active cooling.
@@V4VideoGamer you didn’t really put a lot of thought into this comment🤦🏾♂️
@@V4VideoGamer yeah but mac os :(
when do you think that we will see them? next year?
@@V4VideoGamer isheep spotted
Dave if you were getting this with software development as the primary use and a good keyboard being your priority, would you get this or a MacBook Pro? Do you put this keyboard on the level of a MacBook Pro I guess is what I’m asking.
The lower power units keeping up with the 175w unit means something is not working on that higher power unit somewhere. Not sure what the bottleneck is with such a good cooling system...
Assuming here: CPU bottleneck. Everyone’s been bringing it up in 4000 series laptops reviews in the context of 1080p, I’m guessing it’s also affecting the ability of the GPU to take advantage of the bigger power budget.
Can you talk about the sound system of the device , like the output and input quality of the hardwares.
MSI Raider and titan series sold for more with less because it could deliver and sustain 175 W power with some aesthetics as well. This product crushed that advantage many times over. Love to see this kind of competition. My gut is telling me they are selling this laptop without profit or something or maybe with a little loss (very little chance). Just one thing I am waiting for before I buy is did they cut corner? Subpar components? Let's wait and write down this laptop model number in Google calendar 👍
I’m really hoping for a good price point on a 4080 M16. I have the 3060 M16 from last year and this years model corrects the issues I had with last years. Hope you do a full on review of one soon!
Hi Dave, please, when you're putting the resolution of the screen, in brackets put the aspect ratio too! it would be a great help and depending on the people, either a pro/con for it being either way.
I personally love their decision to go with a 16:10 aspect ratio. Even though many people would want it to be 16:9.
Dave, I love your reviews so much. Everything from how you present yourself, through to the video production. But in this case, I want to express concern for anyone considering the G18.
I can't presume to know, but perhaps you were shipped products that had just that little bit of extra quality control, because what is being stocked in shelves seems like an entirely different product. I've lost count of the number of G18s that have abysmal screen issues, and that's not an exaggeration, I really did encounter so many cases that I should have noted the number of them.
I don't know for certain if it's compression of material, or changes in heat states, but I do want to just issue this word of caution in that matter. Internals and performance wise, they do seem to be fantastic, but there might be a legitimate QC issue at the moment re:screens.
Just ordered a Strix Scar 18... Can't wait to try how much better it would be than the G17 from 2021 with rtx3070 model that already does a great job on 3d modeling and rendering stuff.
Would u recommend it?
@@animeoverlord8327 sure
No coil whine ?
@@michaozga7825 there is some coil wine actually. It depends on what you do and which part of the gpu is active I guess.
@@SimoJekov oh sad. That holds me back from buying strix g17 2023 or m16.
If they brought MiniLED to the 18 inch version then Id consider it
Same I really hope they do within the year
I can't imagine spending north of $2500 in 2023 and getting an IPS panel.
@@briansmith4241 Same in an ideal world I wouldn't want to spend more than 2500 dollars on these laptops but even on the most expensive end I wouldn't want to spend more than say 3000 on these before taxes. I really hate the pricing on these.
Awe man i was really hoping this was gonna be the laptop to get, but after seeing the reviews, and the issues with the screen, I'm back to square one. Strix, what used to be a high end laptop, is all over the place this year, the cheapest model is selling without the numberpad and even withou the numerpad on the tochpad and not saying anything about it. Very sad thing to see, not even the expensive one was worth it, what is the next option?
Legion is looking good so hoping for that, have to get a replacement laptop soon...
Great Review Dave! Whats your recommendation for people looking for budget?
depends theres like very budget(under 800) budget(under 1k) decent budget(under 1.4) good budget(1.6) big budget(2k) and anything over u dont have money problems
so whats ur budget?
Would be super nice to sync rgb lightning with screen like Ambilight, otherwise I do not understand why it’s there at all
MW sound effect was a nice touch
The G18 looks beautiful and the pricing….$2,500?!?!? They’re madmen! 🤯
ASUS always goes hard with it’s ROG products.
Hi Dave :) What's about coil whine sound on the scar? And black screen bug? And weird sound during scrolling? Do you not noticed that?
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I've just ordered the Scar 18, I can't wait. It's arriving tomorrow. I'm finally upgrading my ancient and slow HP Omen laptop from 2017. Thank you for this review!
The Asus company is God-send. WIthout Asus/Rog we'd be 5 year behind in laptop tech/pricing/value/thermal/performace. The pushes it to the limit and set the standard for others to follow.
"When i saw the 2500 dollar price tag i thought it would be some mediocre screen"......
Dave plz review the m16 alienware !! I love it so far but I trust your reviews . Your the best in class when reviews come in place !!
I only wish Asus kept the charger/hdmi/ethernet/extra usbs ports on the back of the device. It makes it so clean not having a bunch of wires all around my machine.
Oh wow that Dave-blue Armored Cap snapping into place is the most satisfying thing. I love how it looks and that click also somehow gives fulfillment.
Dave: Does it even work? Yes, it works🙂
Me: omg it workss🤓🤓
The cooling system looks really quite interesting. On the downside it is one more fan to potentially go wrong. Saying this as someone who had the fans replaced on a Legion laptop after a year of use because of a noisy bearing.
At this point every laptop should have a Dave2D Teal Edition. Asus if you are listening, make it limited edition :)
The only thing missing here is a sweet oled panel at 1440p res and refreshes it at 240hz
It could have been the laptop to beat this year
...and here in germany the g18 with i7 and RTX 4050 (!) starts at 1999 EUR, which is already 2100 USD... I dont even want to think about how expensive the 4080/4090 versions will be once available.
I'd order one from Best Buy right now if they were in stock. Reminds me of the Strix with the 3070 that I could never get my hands on. Ended up with the Zephyrus instead.
I have a 4k 120hz screen with a 3080 on my Zephyrus G15 2022 and I payed 2k for it. 1999 to be exact. 5 months ago. Still loving the hell out of it and although this generation is indeed impressive, I'm not looking forward to changing anytime soon.
Smart move shifting the power port to the side rather than at the back, though the back is more convenient. The amount of heat being pumped out the back literally melted parts inside the power port. Took my 2022 G15 scar back under warranty twice.