Been watching your videos for probably a few years now, but I’m finally teaching a Latin 100 class while I’m pursuing my Masters, so I’ll definitely be making use of these videos.
A plan of taking the city and a plan of the city that will be taken mean different things. But if the latin construction means the first then it's a property of the construction as a whole not of the gerundive meaning because there is an implied "taking": a plan of (taking) a city that will be taken. It's common in most languages for participle forms to have different constructions whose meanings are best memorized as whole without trying to make that a meaning of the participle. English passive is a common example.
This video has led to me discovering my new favorite word in Latin. My name is Kris, and when I started leaning Latin a few years ago I wanted to know if my name meant anything in Latin. There is no Kris, but Cris with a C is a word, a verb stem, and it forms a gerundive as Crisandus, which amused me, as it highly vulgar
Glad to see you back. Quick question: at 5:58, is the epistulīs scrībendīs part in the ablative or dative form? And what would the name of this construction be? (e.g. dative of purpose, etc.)
The explanations are very clear. Thanks! Idiotically, I never imagined that the names of grammatical constructions, like “gerund,” derive from actual words whose first-order meaning the derivations later referenced. In fact, the referent here becomes its own antecedent! Now I’m wondering whether that’s a linguistic meta-phenomenon or my own trivial discursive, reverse-engineered, epistemic recursion . . . where’s Wittgenstein the one time I sprout a seedling he might actually harvest?
Speaking of participles, I wanted to ask about the following: I am aware of the fact that Latin didn’t have perfect active and present passive participles. The question is what they used instead? I am just new to Latin, would be glad if you help
You could use a perfect participle of a deponent verb (e.g., locūtus, having spoken) as a perfect active, and in fact, many texts teach it in this way. But if you can't, you can always use a subordinate clause, like one introduced by qui (who, that) or dum (while).
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Been watching your videos for probably a few years now, but I’m finally teaching a Latin 100 class while I’m pursuing my Masters, so I’ll definitely be making use of these videos.
By far the clearest explanation of gerundives I've found. I can't thank you enough, really.
Perfect timing, I just started on the gerundive and gerund!
I know this won’t help you out now, but I have a Rules video on the gerund and gerundive coming out in a couple of weeks.
@@latintutorial My exam isn't til November, I've got time haha
It's a bit tricky! I'm on Wheelock's Capvt. XXIII.
Always glad to see a new video I can use with my students! These videos are always greatly appreciated and incredibly helpful.
I'm so glad to see you're back! I hope this school year goes well for you
Hopefully better than last year! That was insanely busy and so overwhelming.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE !!!!!!!!!!!
A plan of taking the city and a plan of the city that will be taken mean different things. But if the latin construction means the first then it's a property of the construction as a whole not of the gerundive meaning because there is an implied "taking": a plan of (taking) a city that will be taken.
It's common in most languages for participle forms to have different constructions whose meanings are best memorized as whole without trying to make that a meaning of the participle. English passive is a common example.
A model of clarity. Thanks!
This video has led to me discovering my new favorite word in Latin. My name is Kris, and when I started leaning Latin a few years ago I wanted to know if my name meant anything in Latin. There is no Kris, but Cris with a C is a word, a verb stem, and it forms a gerundive as Crisandus, which amused me, as it highly vulgar
Glad to see you back. Quick question: at 5:58, is the epistulīs scrībendīs part in the ablative or dative form? And what would the name of this construction be? (e.g. dative of purpose, etc.)
Idoneus takes a dative (and especially a dative gerund/gerundive phrase).
I would call this use a dative with adjectives. Check out Rule 33: ruclips.net/video/4KS7IfsJWFM/видео.html.
@@latintutorial Thanks! :)
The explanations are very clear. Thanks! Idiotically, I never imagined that the names of grammatical constructions, like “gerund,” derive from actual words whose first-order meaning the derivations later referenced. In fact, the referent here becomes its own antecedent! Now I’m wondering whether that’s a linguistic meta-phenomenon or my own trivial discursive, reverse-engineered, epistemic recursion . . . where’s Wittgenstein the one time I sprout a seedling he might actually harvest?
Thanks for posting!
Thanks for these videos! They are great!
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Great lesson! I like the -nd- and -ive- mnemonic trick!
gerundIVE adjectIVE
From Carmina Burana description: cantiones profanae cantoribus et choris cantandae. It's like a puzzle and I love it. :-)
This guy's videos always feel like that no matter when you watch them they are always 7 years old.
a testament to how good and consistent his videos have been throughout the life of this channel :)
Speaking of participles, I wanted to ask about the following: I am aware of the fact that Latin didn’t have perfect active and present passive participles. The question is what they used instead? I am just new to Latin, would be glad if you help
You could use a perfect participle of a deponent verb (e.g., locūtus, having spoken) as a perfect active, and in fact, many texts teach it in this way. But if you can't, you can always use a subordinate clause, like one introduced by qui (who, that) or dum (while).
It basically acts like the verbal adjectives ending in -τέος in ancient greek. Carthago delenda est = Καταστρεπτέα εστίν η Καρχηδών
Epic video
Thank you 🙂
whats a periphrastic tho
7:15 And what about: DE ÓMNiBUS dubitándum EST ? ? ?
DE ÓMNiBUS ... EST
DE ... EST
Magister laudandus est mihi.
Latin loves its participles.... but compaired to greek its more like a platonic love not the crazy stuff you would find in greek texts^^
Touché
Waiting for rule number 76 to 90...substantive
Coming. I will definitely get through Rule 80 by the end of 2021, then hopefully finish through Rule 91 by the end of May, 2022, if not sooner!
@@latintutorial thank you for your videos
Carthago delendam est