I work as a personal tutor and I think Toast was like 10/10 tutor here. - He didn't reveal the answer immediately. - He identified her misunderstanding. - He made her ask relevant questions regarding that misunderstanding. - He was super reassuring and never behaved in a way to make her feel stupid - He was able to recognize that her anxiety was at the point that trying to make her discover it herself (even if she would eventually get it) would be detrimental as her confidence would be significantly lowered. But still only revealed what was necessary for her to figure it out herself (when he revealed you can just add ones). This last point is a super hard one to do. Because as a tutor you want your student to discover the answer themself and only pave the road for discovery. But yeah sometimes that road can be very stressing for the student and in the big picture just lower their confidence, so recognizing such a scenario is super hard.
Fellow tutor here, and I honestly came here to comment the same thing. Toast did a great job of reassuring her and pushing her to look at the question differently. Even when he stepped in to show her what was wrong, he still didn’t just tell her the answer. But he also never hid the ball from her. And by the end, Syd was indeed a math queen.
I don't know what you guys are on about because he kept confusing her for no reason. He didn't hone on the mistake she was making which was not recognizing that each digit is treated separately. If I was misunderstanding the problem, I don't want someone to just walk around the issue and keep confusing me. Tell me what mistakes I am making so I can understand. That's what learning is.
@@yuppersmeer6080 was gonna say the same thing, sure his attitude was nice and reassuring, but he wasn't good at getting her to understand the issue. I would've just had her re-read the problem and point out the word "digits". That word implies singular numbers, once you've done that then you can see where her thoughts process lies. Essentially, it was a conceptual problem that needed pointing out because she was addressing it as an arithmetic problem (if that's the right terminology to use).
@@yuppersmeer6080 If you are teaching for the only purpose of passing a test then yes. But what any good teacher should aim for is to teach how to learn in general. If I give you the riddle "What is at the end of a rainbow?" (answer: "w") and i give you the clue "don't think about an actual rainbow think about the letters in the word" have you really learned anything? Sure you have learned how to solve these kinds of riddles, but you have missed an opportunity of practicing how to question assumptions that you take for granted. Because the ability to know how to approach something that seems impossible is a priceless skill. That is the real value of a teacher, to motivate a student to try to solve what they merely think is impossible, because otherwise the student wouldn't practice that skill and try to solve it since they think it is impossible.
@@fyradur this wasn't a trick question or riddle though. Whatever the objectively correct answer to that question/riddle is, it's not "w" because of the word "a". The password has a finite and objectively correct set of answers. While she does end up at a correct result it's not clear that she understands WHY that's the way it worked, or why her other attempts didn't work. The misunderstanding is obviously that digits doesn't exactly mean "numbers", because 24 is a number but its not a digit. And when she reaches the right answer its through asking "So I just keep adding numbers?" to which Toast replies "Yeah!" but it would be worth making sure an understanding is reached about meaning of the word digits, because that's where the problem was. She didn't need to learn to think outside the box to solve this because it wasn't a trick question.
one thing i absolutely love about this video is that thanks to the placement of the cam, everytime my video loads the loading circle appears on top of toast's head, and since my internet sucks today every few seconds it loads. So it happens so often that syd would say something dumb as hell and then the video loads, making it look like toast is processing the information, just for the video to resume a few seconds later with toast losing his mind.
@@nefariou5 she failed to understand the prompt the first time and then fell apart mentally because she was failing in front of thousands of people (on what is a relatively simple task)
No hate to Sydney because everyone has brain fart moments and then they get stuck on this one incorrect interpretation and don't see anything else. I'm as guilty of that. But holy shit, Toast has a patience of a saint here. I'd be like "no, digits are one character long symbols, so a 14 is not a digit, 1 and 4 are" after a third attempt. But he guided her there without showing any signs of impatience or making her feel stupid and I respect the heck out of it.
No, it’s a technical literacy fail. She doesn’t understand that her interpretation of the numbers she types is very different from the computer’s interpretation.
”Got it! *types 25*“ Lolol Tbh I get it tho. I had major math anxiety (I blame timed math speed runs in elementary school) and anytime even a simple equation would come up in convo I would always quickly say that I’m not about to do that math and make the other person do the calculations. Then after having an alarm that forced me to do math problems before shutting off, I have found myself having an easier time doing random math whenever it pops up now. Lol so knowing that struggle and having to figure out the math and overall complicated mess this game is in front of however many watching strangers and TOAST?? 💀💀💀
Math anxiety is not a thing bruh. I don't understand how you don't get that practicing math is somehow more effective than what you were doing before which is give up immediately and ask the other person to do it for you.
@@rw5622 You're comment is basically "I don't know what anxiety is." Anxieties aren't always rational dawg. The fact that they give up before even trying to do the calculation (likely because they are anxious about getting it wrong or looking dumb) is what math anxiety is. The anxiety is also the thing that stops them from practicing. It creates a vicious cycle. Your solution is logical, but you forget that humans have a limbic system, and it can create fear and emotional responses, which can shut off our ability to act based on logic.
@@faznaz7455 exactly, and the first step to that is acknowledging that anxiety is real. That even though it's irrational, the feeling of fear is real, and that it's ok and normal to feel that way. Once we acknowledge that, we can provide them with the actual support necessary to overcome the fear. If instead we just say "math anxiety isn't real," or "it shouldn't exist," we exacerbate the shame people feel about it, and when there's a lot of shame, the anxiety becomes bigger and harder to face, which makes it harder to practice math and get better
@@elijahbuscho7715 maybe its a good thing people feel shame about being okay with staying uneducated. "i cant do math because it hurts my feefees" is a laughable response to lack of tenacity. Unlike other anxieties, this one is born from shame of failing and not having the mental fortitude to try again.
To be fair the rules seem to be testing the participants intelligence not just proficiency with math. I love that she can laugh at herself though. Always makes me smile.
I used to help with an after school math study class and this reminds me a lot of my students. It was never that they were too dumb to do math, it was always a lack of confidence and/or someone close to them insisting that math is really hard... I rarely needed to teach math, I mostly coached and tried to build confidence 📣
"i know im not good at math" is the reason why you're not good at math. You tried math once, you failed, concluded you were just bad at math naturally so you dont even bother to try. You can be good at math if you're just willing to try, again and again. Just like most other stuff in life. Are there people out there that are just better at math naturally than others by a significant margin? Obviously. But having trouble to do such low level math is a result of yourself not even trying because you convinced yourself you were bad at math.
Syd: *going into detail of a traumatic event involving math*
Toast: “maam this is a wendys
Wen-wendy??
Pooh probably should of gone Mickey all the weirdo's might come
This is giving Asian dad helping me with my math hw ptsd
🤣
An Asian child doesn’t struggle with this level of math lol
@@fei-hungwong9034😢 that’s what dad said
@@Breadful1 🤣
not enough shouting, did not cower in fear with snot and tears dribbling down my face
The character development from "I have math ptsd" to "I'm a math queen" 😂👏
I work as a personal tutor and I think Toast was like 10/10 tutor here.
- He didn't reveal the answer immediately.
- He identified her misunderstanding.
- He made her ask relevant questions regarding that
misunderstanding.
- He was super reassuring and never behaved in a way to make her feel stupid
- He was able to recognize that her anxiety was at the point that trying to make her discover it herself (even if she would eventually get it) would be detrimental as her confidence would be significantly lowered. But still only revealed what was necessary for her to figure it out herself (when he revealed you can just add ones).
This last point is a super hard one to do. Because as a tutor you want your student to discover the answer themself and only pave the road for discovery. But yeah sometimes that road can be very stressing for the student and in the big picture just lower their confidence, so recognizing such a scenario is super hard.
Fellow tutor here, and I honestly came here to comment the same thing. Toast did a great job of reassuring her and pushing her to look at the question differently. Even when he stepped in to show her what was wrong, he still didn’t just tell her the answer. But he also never hid the ball from her.
And by the end, Syd was indeed a math queen.
I don't know what you guys are on about because he kept confusing her for no reason. He didn't hone on the mistake she was making which was not recognizing that each digit is treated separately.
If I was misunderstanding the problem, I don't want someone to just walk around the issue and keep confusing me. Tell me what mistakes I am making so I can understand. That's what learning is.
@@yuppersmeer6080 was gonna say the same thing, sure his attitude was nice and reassuring, but he wasn't good at getting her to understand the issue. I would've just had her re-read the problem and point out the word "digits". That word implies singular numbers, once you've done that then you can see where her thoughts process lies. Essentially, it was a conceptual problem that needed pointing out because she was addressing it as an arithmetic problem (if that's the right terminology to use).
@@yuppersmeer6080 If you are teaching for the only purpose of passing a test then yes. But what any good teacher should aim for is to teach how to learn in general.
If I give you the riddle
"What is at the end of a rainbow?" (answer: "w")
and i give you the clue "don't think about an actual rainbow think about the letters in the word" have you really learned anything?
Sure you have learned how to solve these kinds of riddles, but you have missed an opportunity of practicing how to question assumptions that you take for granted.
Because the ability to know how to approach something that seems impossible is a priceless skill.
That is the real value of a teacher, to motivate a student to try to solve what they merely think is impossible, because otherwise the student wouldn't practice that skill and try to solve it since they think it is impossible.
@@fyradur this wasn't a trick question or riddle though. Whatever the objectively correct answer to that question/riddle is, it's not "w" because of the word "a". The password has a finite and objectively correct set of answers. While she does end up at a correct result it's not clear that she understands WHY that's the way it worked, or why her other attempts didn't work. The misunderstanding is obviously that digits doesn't exactly mean "numbers", because 24 is a number but its not a digit. And when she reaches the right answer its through asking "So I just keep adding numbers?" to which Toast replies "Yeah!" but it would be worth making sure an understanding is reached about meaning of the word digits, because that's where the problem was. She didn't need to learn to think outside the box to solve this because it wasn't a trick question.
These Toast + Syd/Lily IRL streams never disappoint. I wish they’d do it more often because it’s always the best sort of house content
See, problem with this is Toast will have an aneurism
when she said oh and put 25 I was dyinggggg she was so confident
Edit: NOT SYDENY CONFESSING HER TRAUMA OUT OF NO WHERE 😭😭😭😭😭
She did the same when it asked for a periodic element and she put Au so quickly and then confidently said it was silver.
THEN WHEN SHE ADDED THE + SIGN-
I DIED
I was getting a headache watching her
😂😂😂😂
one thing i absolutely love about this video is that thanks to the placement of the cam, everytime my video loads the loading circle appears on top of toast's head, and since my internet sucks today every few seconds it loads.
So it happens so often that syd would say something dumb as hell and then the video loads, making it look like toast is processing the information, just for the video to resume a few seconds later with toast losing his mind.
i like this comment thanks rem
😂😂😂
😭😭😭
lmao
I laughed so much watching this stream, by the end they lost their minds 😂😁
where do they stream!!!!
@@violetmoon141On Twitch, her channel is called Sydeon.
It's on Twitch her streamer name is Sydeon
@@violetmoon141 It's on Syd's twitch VODs (Sydeon)
@@violetmoon141twitch!
this entire stream was a gift but this moment in particular made me feel insane lmaoooo
That math trauma came out of no where 💀 i love them 😂❤
the quick trauma story LMFAOOOO 😭😭😭
THIS WAS CUTE AND FUNNY AF LMAO GREAT STREAM YOU DID WELL SYDNEY
The best & unexpected duo we absolutely needed
Not really unexpected Toast and Sydney have done a ton of videos just them two together they're good friends
they are both good friends and in otv like wdym unexpected
@@WaffleOnTheRun and I commented the same thing in those videos too thank you for your opinion lol
@@searmoshawott1731 DUO BRO. like john n jodi, rae & miyoung. it’s like leslie and blau or poki and mizkif 😂
@@juanabeeditor089 but like why'd you say unexpected duo? i know they are a great duo and funny one
It's actually an English comprehension fail not a math fail.
for the first part yes, but the second part she struggles to add up the digits to 25
@@nefariou5 she failed to understand the prompt the first time and then fell apart mentally because she was failing in front of thousands of people (on what is a relatively simple task)
No hate to Sydney because everyone has brain fart moments and then they get stuck on this one incorrect interpretation and don't see anything else. I'm as guilty of that. But holy shit, Toast has a patience of a saint here. I'd be like "no, digits are one character long symbols, so a 14 is not a digit, 1 and 4 are" after a third attempt. But he guided her there without showing any signs of impatience or making her feel stupid and I respect the heck out of it.
@Kasiarzynka How Toast treats Sydney vs how Toast treats Lily 😭😭
No, it’s a technical literacy fail. She doesn’t understand that her interpretation of the numbers she types is very different from the computer’s interpretation.
I love toast and Sydney duo. They are so funny
IF KEVIN HAS 6 APPLES
”Got it! *types 25*“
Lolol
Tbh I get it tho. I had major math anxiety (I blame timed math speed runs in elementary school) and anytime even a simple equation would come up in convo I would always quickly say that I’m not about to do that math and make the other person do the calculations. Then after having an alarm that forced me to do math problems before shutting off, I have found myself having an easier time doing random math whenever it pops up now. Lol so knowing that struggle and having to figure out the math and overall complicated mess this game is in front of however many watching strangers and TOAST?? 💀💀💀
Math anxiety is not a thing bruh. I don't understand how you don't get that practicing math is somehow more effective than what you were doing before which is give up immediately and ask the other person to do it for you.
@@rw5622 You're comment is basically "I don't know what anxiety is."
Anxieties aren't always rational dawg. The fact that they give up before even trying to do the calculation (likely because they are anxious about getting it wrong or looking dumb) is what math anxiety is. The anxiety is also the thing that stops them from practicing. It creates a vicious cycle. Your solution is logical, but you forget that humans have a limbic system, and it can create fear and emotional responses, which can shut off our ability to act based on logic.
@@elijahbuscho7715Anxiety with math only exists due to a lack of practice and guidance. One needs to persevere if progress is to be made.
@@faznaz7455 exactly, and the first step to that is acknowledging that anxiety is real. That even though it's irrational, the feeling of fear is real, and that it's ok and normal to feel that way. Once we acknowledge that, we can provide them with the actual support necessary to overcome the fear. If instead we just say "math anxiety isn't real," or "it shouldn't exist," we exacerbate the shame people feel about it, and when there's a lot of shame, the anxiety becomes bigger and harder to face, which makes it harder to practice math and get better
@@elijahbuscho7715 maybe its a good thing people feel shame about being okay with staying uneducated. "i cant do math because it hurts my feefees" is a laughable response to lack of tenacity. Unlike other anxieties, this one is born from shame of failing and not having the mental fortitude to try again.
Syd saying she got it after seeing 241 and just thought that meant type 25 broke me.
Toast and syd are becoming my fav duo lowkey
Ok but adding the plus symbol was actually genius. Dead wrong, but genius.
2:39 I was half expecting Toast to reply with something like "you're a special character" XD
Probably one of the best videos i've ever seen
To be fair the rules seem to be testing the participants intelligence not just proficiency with math. I love that she can laugh at herself though. Always makes me smile.
So you're saying she's stupid?
@@faintedmemo Uhhh maybe? I wasn't trying to.
@@faintedmemotbf...she is stupid. Her comprehension and maths skills proved that.
Their language skills, not intelligence. Knowing the definition of "digit" has nothing to do with intelligence.
Syd losing her mind and Toast just being like *ur doing great sweetie* 😂😂
Toast is so wholesome lmfao
You should check out Toast when they were playing Pico Park. Completely different person 😂
"This is traumatic" 💀
Toast was so nice to her on the simple math problems even when he was dying inside. He has changed so much from those days with Janet 👍
I wonder if being punched in the head repeatedly helped with that.
I need to find those days' videos, I thought he had strong composer both in this video and in the video with Lily
She's right, the game is just so intuitive, which is the reason it was made.
Do you know what game it is?
@@TheKolo4824the password game
Do you know the name
@@mariyamkhan745the password game
Password game. Guys you’re not built for this game if you couldn’t figure that out lmao
They need their own game show or sumn lmao
Oh my god this is funnier than I thought it was going to be. I'm in stitches. Somebody send help.
The patience of Toast is out of this world.
4:37 “this one time at band camp” headass😭😭
"...I had to use my fingies to count"
Its probably just the pressure to perform that makes her not able to do it on the spot lol poor syd
That's exactly what it is, it's pressure to perform next to someone. Alone she could most likely be completely fine
"thats a special character though".
No you are the special character
1:19 killed me😭😂
I always change password so I know this rules pretty well but sydney's reading comprehension blows my mind.🤯🤣
What are you talking about lmao the whole point of the game is that these are insane password requirements
This is freaking crazy and hilarious.
I think Syd was the special character here
She’s not even struggling with math, she’s struggling with english comprehension
She's struggling with literally 3rd grade arithmetic
@@rw5622 Not really, like i said she’s just struggling to understand the question
Yeah i didnt get it euther at first. Its english comprehension
@@mylesmcmahon and then struggled to do 9+9+7. She kinda failed at both.
I swear I'm the same. I'd say I'm pretty decent at math in general but when I have to do it in front of someone I can't even put 2 and 5 together 😭😭
How this became a therapy session? 😂 Poor Syd 😢
Toast is soo patient he turned to BURNT TOAST
Most impressive thing about her is her eye contact with the person she's talking to
That was painful. I am awful at maths and this was still damaging to my soul.... Love you Syd
5:26. Did she say fingies instead of fingers?
I think the question he shouldve asked is whether she knows what a digit is
Toast after her traumatic story is like "You got the number right😅"
There's so much research on math anxiety, it's SO real. Folks get nervous when math shows up on their screen
Cute duo, more of them please.
She almost had it early by reading out the question again and then toast interrupted her.
She just felt bad for 24 she didnt want to leave it alone.
This duo is killing me
Man Syd is good people
no wait cause this confused me too at first
Omg. I'm dyslexic and whenever people hand me things to read, I panic. I totally get this.
People aren’t good at math, they just don’t try to understand the question 😭😂 but omg this is gold
Don't worry Sydney, it took me an embarassingly time to "get it", too 😅.... I do have dyscalculia though, lol
Dyslexia too?
You have Dracula too?
THAT WAS A WHOLE ROLLERCOASTER POOR SYD
I feel like it's more a reading comprehension problem than a maths problem 😂
When she said 241, that was crazyyyy🤣🤣🤣🤣
Conman LOOSES HIS MIND watching OTV Copium try to write a coherent title
"simple math problem" but after an 8 hour shift it still took me a good minute to figure out lmao
toast's a good teacher
This isn’t a math problem…this is a reading comprehension problem lol
Bruh... This could all have been avoided by asking: "what is the difference between a digit and a number?" 😂
Her problem wasnt the math she wasnt recognizing a digit can only be 0-9. Even though she probably has multiple pin mumbers.
Me screaming Nein! Nein! Nein! the whole time
the DIGITS, not the NUMBERS, this has raised my blood pressure wtf
This is why math isn’t really stressed for nursing majors
No no I understand her I am TERRIBLE at math it’s embarrassing honestly
Stupid of him to not just ASK her to read the rule 5 AGAIN.
The word digits is the important here. This is a word problem.
Sydney's so cute
All this mental breakdown at this stage when Paul hasn't even spawned yet? lol gl bois
This is why reading comprehension is important xD
ok, I'll be honest, I wouldn't have thought of the correct thing either. I would have tried everything she was doing too. XD
3:35 LOLLLL
No one is going to question that she was going to be a nurse with those math skills? Streaming career saving lives...and murder charges...
my seven year old cried watching this
This is hilarious 😂😂😂😂
I'M FUCKING CRYING LMFAOOOOO
I think this beats the ashy elbow
Sydney is a Dope Soul
This is too funny. Oh man. I'm with you toast.
I used to help with an after school math study class and this reminds me a lot of my students. It was never that they were too dumb to do math, it was always a lack of confidence and/or someone close to them insisting that math is really hard... I rarely needed to teach math, I mostly coached and tried to build confidence 📣
when they don't mention the digits are < 10
"i know im not good at math" is the reason why you're not good at math. You tried math once, you failed, concluded you were just bad at math naturally so you dont even bother to try.
You can be good at math if you're just willing to try, again and again. Just like most other stuff in life.
Are there people out there that are just better at math naturally than others by a significant margin? Obviously. But having trouble to do such low level math is a result of yourself not even trying because you convinced yourself you were bad at math.
we all lost our minds watching this....
Oh hell no not math. I’m out. I just suffered doing my math course for 4 days straight just for my professor to push the due date to 2 weeks later 😭
Bro this isn't math, it's reading comprehension.
Syd, it's PEMDAS, not PTSD 😂
looks like toast's inner Asian is coming out in this video
this is more syd losing her mind lol
I struggle to believe that people really don't know what a "digit" is... it's not her math that needs work, it's her English.
Toast the math major facepalming
SYDNEY NO😭
is there a full vod for this?
My last 2 neurons during a calc test
To be fair, it wasn’t a math issue. It was a word problem issue.