I've always felt when it comes to things like this that very seldom does adding "one thing" like a record weight make a total sonic difference. ...but rather when you combine something like adding a record weight ($40), adding some vibration pads ($20), cleaning your stylus & records (free), leveling your turntable (free), working on better speaker placement if possible in your space (free)... That $60 and bit of your time investment can all come together to enhance the playback of your records. Not to mention, honestly, they look cool lol....and watching a turntable "perform", as silly as it may sound, is one of the joys of vinyl collecting :)
I'm an enthusiast who dabbles with higher-end consumer audio. A friend of mine who is an audiophile echoed what you said when I was asking him about cost saving measures. He basically said: 'You've (he) got $12k in a SuperCD Player, $8k into a pre-amp, $10k in a 2-channel power amp, and another $12k into a pair of speakers...you don't want to compromise your system with sub-par electronic filters, interconnects, etc...Any 1 component can make the difference. Now whether only 'you' hear it or not, can't help you there :D
The very FIRST thing you always should do, especially if you have worries about vibrasjons, is to remove the dust cover!!! No weight or clamp can help with that big "sail" being up (or down)! It should always be removed from the turntable when playing! 😃👌
I've tried both, and clamps are definitely the way forward they don't put strain on the motor and bearings and stop the record from slipping especially used on acrylic platters with no slip mats. Improvement in sound I've not heard anything.
Master sounds weights have very good feedback from customers even DJs are using them. not sure if the improvement is audible but it certainly looks good. ( Im sure Technics 1210 wont mind extra 400g on the platter)
Yes they do make a difference...you can hear to...I made my own and heard the difference....also slipmsts change the sound as well and sound different...you're only talking about tiny changes but there is a difference...
I always use a clamp or weight. I had read some time ago to only use a weight on direct-drive turntables and use clamps on belt-driven turntables. I have a Rek-O-Kut weight I use on my Technics SL-Q2 and a Mitchell clamp on my Rega Planar 2. I too believe they make a difference, but not a WOW factor like some people may think. I hear the bass better as it gets tighter and it softens some tinny highs.
Interesting topic, Mark! I have used a (Clearaudio) clamp for about four years now and actually never heard any benefit, aside from looking pretty cool. As a matter of fact, I have one copy of the Police Synchronicity album that sits flat on the platter until I clamp it on….and THEN it warps (which says more about the quality of 80’s vinyl than it does about the clamp. A few months ago I purchased a second hand outer ring periphery clamp and THAT made a significant difference. The bass is tighter and and the sound seems richer and more defined to me. The bonus is that it really makes the record sit flat on my platter, even that pesky Police album. The only problem is that it takes almost as long to take a record from its jacket and sleeve, dust it, put on the clamp, put on the ring, and let the record reach 33.3 RPM (it does make the motor work harder to reach the desired speed) as it does to actually listen to the record. And one of these days, I know that if I am careless, I am going to have a very expensive accident with my cartridge. Streaming DOES have its advantages! On a different note, is that Sigur Ros album you are playing in your video blue?!…
I've noticed the same improvement when I use the peripheral ring (3.2lbs). 100g and lighter LPs definitely sond better with this ring. Sometimes I use the clamp but I think that the ring alone does the job. But there is another issue. With carts riding really low there might be a problem when lowering the tone arm. There might not be enough clearance.
I've also used the Pig with my Revolver for the best part of 30yrs & just in the last12months I've tried a weight clamp at 121gs now I 've just gone to trying another weight clamp which I think gives me more satisfaction at 175 gs but sound difference is very minimal but is looks good.🙂🙃
@@paulaj2829 I have 3 now and use one on my Linn as it doesn’t interfere with the suspension and another on my Rega. No weight to these so they aren’t going to destroy the bearings on my turntables.
When it comes to suspension it would be better to use a clamp instead and it presses the record down but doesnt add the extra weight that could affect a factory suspension system and possibly the bearing -
A quick note covering this vid along with several others I've viewed this holiday weekend. One of the best components of your particular channel when reviewing, trying, etc. hardware equipment is that you have NO hyperbole IMO and simply share your personal observations in straight ahead manner. 👍 For example, as you mentioned in this vid, there's no "this product will CHANGE YOUR LIFE AND VINYL SYSTEM" or "this accessory is #1 in the world" type comments. Kudos. 💪
I use my clamp exclusively on records that are cupped/warped. With the clamp it will press the record flat against the platter without adding much more load on the motor or belt.
As I posted earlier on here I've tried with 3 different settings & they all show the same speed on the strobe mat at 33/3 which is what you want & because they sit on the middle of the turntable you will not have any problems.. & they do look good for you to enjoy your music with our grown up toys in my opinion.
Totally agree with you on the fact that they look good & by spending £16 to look good is well worth the satisfaction you get rather than spending £200 on the real thing which I don't know if I could tell any difference.🤔🤨😐
With a clamp or weight there should be a washer (mine is rubber) that goes over the spindle. Then place the record on the platter and add the weight or clamp. The washer under the center of the record minimizes the over-compression on the center of the record preventing a dishing effect where the outer circumference of the record lifts off the platter. Personally I would rather have a light weight clamp rather than a weight so the amount of pressure can be adjusted. VPI spindles are threaded to allow their clamps to go on this way. Not familiar with how other brands do it.
I have tried several tweaks over many years and nothing ever changes the sound for me. When I’ve been lucky enough to afford a better TT or cartridge or pre amp then that is what makes a difference. Tweaks do not (for me).
So, my issue is the speakers in my music room have enormous bass response, so much so that I get feedback from the LP disc at volumes past 2.5 on my stereo. I'm hoping the 14 oz record weight I just bought will mitigate the feedback. It should be here tomorrow.
I've recently acquired a Micro Seiki RX-5000 from an old friend who has left us. After trying many platter mats I went with the one designed for it - Their CU-180 solid copper mat weighing several pounds. It is by far the best sounding I have tried and its weight isn't an issue since the bronze platter weighs 45 lbs. However it is very slick and smooth. Some LP's all but stop when using a carbon brush because they're turning on the smooth mat. So although I don't necessarily need one for performance, although I don't know what the results will be, I need one to hold the record in place. I'll go for a lower mass version. Unfortunately the one you use is unavailable.
My initial thought on them is you are "adhering" a record to that platter. Any small vibrations are are in the chassis will come thru directly to the record and hence the stylus. One of these days I might try the clamping ones out. Who knows. But sure not going to spend hundreds on this. With my hundreds of records I have yet to come across one that is at the point of needing one. After all my vintage Technics as well has many other players spent many many many years in developing tone arms to counter these issues. Is it just he new players that can't handle a small warp anymore?
I have used a clamp and also a weight, I can't remember the make of the clamp but it was a well known brand, possibly Pro-Ject or Mitchell but I really can't be certain, whatever the make it was it clamped the record too tightly and made the sound very muddy and dull, I tried it on many records and the results were always the same, maybe it was my turntable at fault, there was no middle ground when clamping a record, following the instructions always resulted in the record being clamped too tightly, so I looked for a weight instead, knowing the difficulties with the clamp I didn't want to go too heavy, I found a weight at 400 grams eventually and bought that, I like the plain simple design and the weight does make a difference in a good way, the bass is better with a little more weight and clarity and the music is more sure footed, it's a small improvement and as I only paid £15 I'm satisfied with that, I am looking for something else however, but that's for after I get my new turntable.
Would advise to everyone new to this to be really careful with clamps. I have a Pro-Ject ‘Clamp It’ for use with a Pro-Ject X2 turntable. When I apply any kind of tightening to my clamp, it makes my turntable sound really off and ‘ill’! Not sure about other clamps, but a massive issue with the Clamp It is that after grabbing the spindle, it then pulls downward with considerable force onto the record and platter. Pulling down so strongly causes two problems. The biggest one is that it puts extra strain through the bearings and motor structure and audibly causes the platter to spin inconsistently (hence the ill sounding effect). The second potential problem is that by pressing down so firmly at the centre it mildly bows the record, causing it to lift subtly all around the outside edge. Now you have a record that’s not truly flat, which will affect tracking/channel balance. With these issues, the more revealing your system, the more you’ll hear it. It makes more sense to avoid using such clamps, or super heavy weights/stabilisers, on expensive turntables as their motor assemblies and bearings are far more sensitive. I’d rather not damage my expensive turntable for a subtle discipline it brings to the sound. I’m really surprised more isn’t said about the hazards of clamps that pull down so strongly onto the record and platter (and motor structure). I use my Clamp It now as just a stabiliser, so I place it on the record without tightening it and this sounds far better anyway. So my advice is, get a light stabiliser/weight, made from good anti-magnetic and anti-resonant material(s). It’s job is just to engage the record to tame it, not to dominate it! Don’t get a clamp that pulls downward forcibly and don’t get a ridiculously heavy weight. A weight/stabiliser of around 100g will be just enough to tame the record without swamping it. Hope this helps.
A clamp does not pull down on the motor structure or the bearing as you claim. It pulls the record down on the platter and sub-platter. The sub-platter is still sitting freely in the bearing and is only pushed down by the weight of the platter, record and sub-platter. How tight you fix the record to the platter and sub-platter with the clamp has absolutely no impact on the bearing and motor. The benefit of a light clamp is that it does not stress the motor or the bearing as a record weight does but still pulls the record down in the same way.
I was going to answer, and offer my opinion although not from experience, from theory, and my right opinion - something Socrates said. Anyway, I had this long explanation that I had posted on a RUclips Channel called Channel 33 RPM a year ago that revolved round the same topic; specifically the use, and benefit of a record weight! However, getting to the point for a benefit; if a record is very warped I believe a record weight is beneficial, but not for most records that are very close to flat. Anyhow, I'll simply repeat my opinion, and try to be more brief about a record weight, or even a clamp if it tends to add extra weight. Henceforth, that is the problem with most record weights as they are added to the centre on top of a vinyl record; they add more weight! This additional weight could be perceived, by auditory factors as a benefit; therefore the record weight is a Good Thing. Although as an objective, real world result it could provide a very small benefit to the the sound from vinyl. From this advantage there is a disadvantage. There is going to be a bit of stress to the bearings, and belt as you have said. Furthermore, there is a questionable stress, and load on the motor; but it could be very minimal. For a direct drive turntable I think most record weights are not going to add that much stress; maybe nothing real to worry about. However, we are considering the belt drive turntable design. From what I've learned a long time ago up to Grade 13 Drafting there is the case of Stresses, and Loads. However, I may apply such a Hudson Hi-Fi BigBen, or SmallBen, or SpaceBen Record Weight Stabilizer; the last two weight stabilizers weigh less. I haven't actually answered the question to an absolute yes, or no; but that's the way the record spins.🔉🎵🎶
I did like the video a guy had on RUclips showing that you can test what speed the album is going with or without the weight so I have tried it with my speed mat & the difference between No weight .. 121Gs weight.. 175Gs weight is still the same when you look at the strobe setting for 33/3 albums.
This will effect weighted tracking force of stylus I’m not saying they are all bad there are some instances where you have to be aware that it can have a counter intuitive balance against the tone arm
Nope, they can flatten records which is nice though. Only TTs with light platters somewhat wear faster with Weights, if your platter weighs 3KG then a 400gram weight wont change much.
I use (when I’m listening for detail or have a mildly warped record) a light weight. The GrooveWasher one I have is fairly light compared to some. What model are you referring to?
As long as we enjoy what we are trying to achieve I think you can convince yourself that they are doing the job which we love & that's enjoying our music from a turntable.
I received my weight today, it was the 14 oz Fein (sic) and just played Stevie Ray Vaughn "the Sky Is Crying" and yes it made a HUGE difference in how loud I could play the recording. Super clear at 4.0 on the volume setting, at 3.2 it used to feedback. any louder and the cops would be here visiting LOL !
I've just gone over to trying a 7 oz weight & will give this a try for now but you have given me the idea of trying more weight because as I said earlier from the Revolver Pig to a 4.3 oz then to a 7 oz there is no change in the strobe settings with the weight being in the middle on the Turntable.
These contraptions do not improve the sound of a good quality record whatsoever. However the very expensive ones improve the audiophile’s mood. As far as the warped records are concerned- don’t put them on your turntable.
I've always felt when it comes to things like this that very seldom does adding "one thing" like a record weight make a total sonic difference. ...but rather when you combine something like adding a record weight ($40), adding some vibration pads ($20), cleaning your stylus & records (free), leveling your turntable (free), working on better speaker placement if possible in your space (free)... That $60 and bit of your time investment can all come together to enhance the playback of your records. Not to mention, honestly, they look cool lol....and watching a turntable "perform", as silly as it may sound, is one of the joys of vinyl collecting :)
I'm an enthusiast who dabbles with higher-end consumer audio. A friend of mine who is an audiophile echoed what you said when I was asking him about cost saving measures. He basically said: 'You've (he) got $12k in a SuperCD Player, $8k into a pre-amp, $10k in a 2-channel power amp, and another $12k into a pair of speakers...you don't want to compromise your system with sub-par electronic filters, interconnects, etc...Any 1 component can make the difference. Now whether only 'you' hear it or not, can't help you there :D
I've noticed that I had a few records that refused to sit flat, and yes the weight helped that.
The very FIRST thing you always should do, especially if you have worries about vibrasjons, is to remove the dust cover!!! No weight or clamp can help with that big "sail" being up (or down)! It should always be removed from the turntable when playing! 😃👌
They do make a bit of audio difference, but weight can be an issue for motor creating more jerking at belt , depending on the unit I guess
The mass is in the center, so no effect on belt or motor. My platter weighs over 10lbs, so i doubt another 400 grams will effect the bearing.
My Avid Diva has a clamp already „build in“ and I love this british toy very, very much!
Greetings from Germany 😉
Lovely turntable. Enjoy!
I've tried both, and clamps are definitely the way forward they don't put strain on the motor and bearings and stop the record from slipping especially used on acrylic platters with no slip mats. Improvement in sound I've not heard anything.
Love an acrylic platter, but they are quite slippy!
Master sounds weights have very good feedback from customers even DJs are using them. not sure if the improvement is audible but it certainly looks good. ( Im sure Technics 1210 wont mind extra 400g on the platter)
Yes they do make a difference...you can hear to...I made my own and heard the difference....also slipmsts change the sound as well and sound different...you're only talking about tiny changes but there is a difference...
I always use a clamp or weight. I had read some time ago to only use a weight on direct-drive turntables and use clamps on belt-driven turntables. I have a Rek-O-Kut weight I use on my Technics SL-Q2 and a Mitchell clamp on my Rega Planar 2. I too believe they make a difference, but not a WOW factor like some people may think. I hear the bass better as it gets tighter and it softens some tinny highs.
Interesting topic, Mark! I have used a (Clearaudio) clamp for about four years now and actually never heard any benefit, aside from looking pretty cool. As a matter of fact, I have one copy of the Police Synchronicity album that sits flat on the platter until I clamp it on….and THEN it warps (which says more about the quality of 80’s vinyl than it does about the clamp.
A few months ago I purchased a second hand outer ring periphery clamp and THAT made a significant difference. The bass is tighter and and the sound seems richer and more defined to me. The bonus is that it really makes the record sit flat on my platter, even that pesky Police album. The only problem is that it takes almost as long to take a record from its jacket and sleeve, dust it, put on the clamp, put on the ring, and let the record reach 33.3 RPM (it does make the motor work harder to reach the desired speed) as it does to actually listen to the record. And one of these days, I know that if I am careless, I am going to have a very expensive accident with my cartridge. Streaming DOES have its advantages!
On a different note, is that Sigur Ros album you are playing in your video blue?!…
I've noticed the same improvement when I use the peripheral ring (3.2lbs). 100g and lighter LPs definitely sond better with this ring. Sometimes I use the clamp but I think that the ring alone does the job. But there is another issue. With carts riding really low there might be a problem when lowering the tone arm. There might not be enough clearance.
I have dumbell metal spinlock collars that fit the 7 inch adapter perfectly. Home made weight for a record.
I have that Darkside album you show in the intro. It’s so good. Both albums are great actually. More people need to hear about them.
Yea! Superb album :)
I have used one called a Pig on my Revolver turntable for years and I do think it works.
I've also used the Pig with my Revolver for the best part of 30yrs & just in the last12months I've tried a weight clamp at 121gs now I 've just gone to trying another weight clamp which I think gives me more satisfaction at 175 gs but sound difference is very minimal but is looks good.🙂🙃
@@paulaj2829 I have 3 now and use one on my Linn as it doesn’t interfere with the suspension and another on my Rega. No weight to these so they aren’t going to destroy the bearings on my turntables.
I use a U-Turn weight and have had it both on the Orbit and the SL-1210GR.
When it comes to suspension it would be better to use a clamp instead and it presses the record down but doesnt add the extra weight that could affect a factory suspension system and possibly the bearing -
A quick note covering this vid along with several others I've viewed this holiday weekend. One of the best components of your particular channel when reviewing, trying, etc. hardware equipment is that you have NO hyperbole IMO and simply share your personal observations in straight ahead manner. 👍 For example, as you mentioned in this vid, there's no "this product will CHANGE YOUR LIFE AND VINYL SYSTEM" or "this accessory is #1 in the world" type comments. Kudos. 💪
Glad you're enjoying the content. I do try to avoid making bold claims like that; a realistic overview is (hopefully) more helpful :)
I use my clamp exclusively on records that are cupped/warped. With the clamp it will press the record flat against the platter without adding much more load on the motor or belt.
As I posted earlier on here I've tried with 3 different settings & they all show the same speed on the strobe mat at 33/3 which is what you want & because they sit on the middle of the turntable you will not have any problems.. & they do look good for you to enjoy your music with our grown up toys in my opinion.
they improve contact between the record and the platter, and are highly recommended
They just look nice!
Totally agree with you on the fact that they look good & by spending £16 to look good is well worth the satisfaction you get rather than spending £200 on the real thing which I don't know if I could tell any difference.🤔🤨😐
Sadly as my setup has two turntable it’s twice the cost. If it’s worth it I’ll buy it.
With a clamp or weight there should be a washer (mine is rubber) that goes over the spindle. Then place the record on the platter and add the weight or clamp. The washer under the center of the record minimizes the over-compression on the center of the record preventing a dishing effect where the outer circumference of the record lifts off the platter. Personally I would rather have a light weight clamp rather than a weight so the amount of pressure can be adjusted. VPI spindles are threaded to allow their clamps to go on this way. Not familiar with how other brands do it.
I have had the same turntable since the late '70s. Never had a slipping problem. I see no need for added strain on my direct drive motor.
I have tried several tweaks over many years and nothing ever changes the sound for me. When I’ve been lucky enough to afford a better TT or cartridge or pre amp then that is what makes a difference. Tweaks do not (for me).
So, my issue is the speakers in my music room have enormous bass response, so much so that I get feedback from the LP disc at volumes past 2.5 on my stereo.
I'm hoping the 14 oz record weight I just bought will mitigate the feedback.
It should be here tomorrow.
I've recently acquired a Micro Seiki RX-5000 from an old friend who has left us. After trying many platter mats I went with the one designed for it - Their CU-180 solid copper mat weighing several pounds. It is by far the best sounding I have tried and its weight isn't an issue since the bronze platter weighs 45 lbs. However it is very slick and smooth. Some LP's all but stop when using a carbon brush because they're turning on the smooth mat. So although I don't necessarily need one for performance, although I don't know what the results will be, I need one to hold the record in place. I'll go for a lower mass version. Unfortunately the one you use is unavailable.
My initial thought on them is you are "adhering" a record to that platter. Any small vibrations are are in the chassis will come thru directly to the record and hence the stylus. One of these days I might try the clamping ones out. Who knows. But sure not going to spend hundreds on this. With my hundreds of records I have yet to come across one that is at the point of needing one. After all my vintage Technics as well has many other players spent many many many years in developing tone arms to counter these issues. Is it just he new players that can't handle a small warp anymore?
I have used a clamp and also a weight, I can't remember the make of the clamp but it was a well known brand, possibly Pro-Ject or Mitchell but I really can't be certain, whatever the make it was it clamped the record too tightly and made the sound very muddy and dull, I tried it on many records and the results were always the same, maybe it was my turntable at fault, there was no middle ground when clamping a record, following the instructions always resulted in the record being clamped too tightly, so I looked for a weight instead, knowing the difficulties with the clamp I didn't want to go too heavy, I found a weight at 400 grams eventually and bought that, I like the plain simple design and the weight does make a difference in a good way, the bass is better with a little more weight and clarity and the music is more sure footed, it's a small improvement and as I only paid £15 I'm satisfied with that, I am looking for something else however, but that's for after I get my new turntable.
Would advise to everyone new to this to be really careful with clamps. I have a Pro-Ject ‘Clamp It’ for use with a Pro-Ject X2 turntable. When I apply any kind of tightening to my clamp, it makes my turntable sound really off and ‘ill’!
Not sure about other clamps, but a massive issue with the Clamp It is that after grabbing the spindle, it then pulls downward with considerable force onto the record and platter. Pulling down so strongly causes two problems. The biggest one is that it puts extra strain through the bearings and motor structure and audibly causes the platter to spin inconsistently (hence the ill sounding effect). The second potential problem is that by pressing down so firmly at the centre it mildly bows the record, causing it to lift subtly all around the outside edge. Now you have a record that’s not truly flat, which will affect tracking/channel balance.
With these issues, the more revealing your system, the more you’ll hear it. It makes more sense to avoid using such clamps, or super heavy weights/stabilisers, on expensive turntables as their motor assemblies and bearings are far more sensitive. I’d rather not damage my expensive turntable for a subtle discipline it brings to the sound.
I’m really surprised more isn’t said about the hazards of clamps that pull down so strongly onto the record and platter (and motor structure). I use my Clamp It now as just a stabiliser, so I place it on the record without tightening it and this sounds far better anyway.
So my advice is, get a light stabiliser/weight, made from good anti-magnetic and anti-resonant material(s). It’s job is just to engage the record to tame it, not to dominate it! Don’t get a clamp that pulls downward forcibly and don’t get a ridiculously heavy weight. A weight/stabiliser of around 100g will be just enough to tame the record without swamping it. Hope this helps.
A clamp does not pull down on the motor structure or the bearing as you claim. It pulls the record down on the platter and sub-platter. The sub-platter is still sitting freely in the bearing and is only pushed down by the weight of the platter, record and sub-platter. How tight you fix the record to the platter and sub-platter with the clamp has absolutely no impact on the bearing and motor.
The benefit of a light clamp is that it does not stress the motor or the bearing as a record weight does but still pulls the record down in the same way.
I was going to answer, and offer my opinion although not from experience, from theory, and my right opinion - something Socrates said. Anyway, I had this long explanation that I had posted on a RUclips Channel called Channel 33 RPM a year ago that revolved round the same topic; specifically the use, and benefit of a record weight! However, getting to the point for a benefit; if a record is very warped I believe a record weight is beneficial, but not for most records that are very close to flat.
Anyhow, I'll simply repeat my opinion, and try to be more brief about a record weight, or even a clamp if it tends to add extra weight. Henceforth, that is the problem with most record weights as they are added to the centre on top of a vinyl record; they add more weight! This additional weight could be perceived, by auditory factors as a benefit; therefore the record weight is a Good Thing. Although as an objective, real world result it could provide a very small benefit to the the sound from vinyl. From this advantage there is a disadvantage.
There is going to be a bit of stress to the bearings, and belt as you have said. Furthermore, there is a questionable stress, and load on the motor; but it could be very minimal. For a direct drive turntable I think most record weights are not going to add that much stress; maybe nothing real to worry about.
However, we are considering the belt drive turntable design. From what I've learned a long time ago up to Grade 13 Drafting there is the case of Stresses, and Loads. However, I may apply such a Hudson Hi-Fi BigBen, or SmallBen, or SpaceBen Record Weight Stabilizer; the last two weight stabilizers weigh less. I haven't actually answered the question to an absolute yes, or no; but that's the way the record spins.🔉🎵🎶
I did like the video a guy had on RUclips showing that you can test what speed the album is going with or without the weight so I have tried it with my speed mat & the difference between No weight .. 121Gs weight.. 175Gs weight is still the same when you look at the strobe setting for 33/3 albums.
I've seen clamps that screw onto the stud. in my opinion these are useful, but the ones that just lean on are of no use, just show off.
At least the clamp is light enough not to destroy the bearing!
Yea, clamps certainly have the advantage of being lighter
This will effect weighted tracking force of stylus I’m not saying they are all bad there are some instances where you have to be aware that it can have a counter intuitive balance against the tone arm
I would be interested to hear more on how a record weight could influence stylus tracking force?
Clamps or weights make about as much a difference as adding a High Octave Additive to your sports cars gas tank , it does nothing .
Myself I don't use a record weight or a clamp. For a record with a warp in it I have to wonder if a product called "Vinyl Flat" is still available.
They're still about. Tried to reach out to them actually - never heard back
Nope, they can flatten records which is nice though. Only TTs with light platters somewhat wear faster with Weights, if your platter weighs 3KG then a 400gram weight wont change much.
Have you considered turning the volume off so those pesky vibrations from the speakers doesnt vibrate the turntable platter or stylus?
It does make a difference, but not necessarily making the sound better though
What have you got to say as to light weight stabilizer instead of a clamp, of the same weight ?
I use (when I’m listening for detail or have a mildly warped record) a light weight. The GrooveWasher one I have is fairly light compared to some. What model are you referring to?
I have both weights and clamps and do feel they make a difference.
As long as we enjoy what we are trying to achieve I think you can convince yourself that they are doing the job which we love & that's enjoying our music from a turntable.
is there a sound test between record slipping and not slipping?
Don’t put additional weight on a turntable motor. It’s like pulling a heavy boat with a scooter. 😂
I received my weight today, it was the 14 oz Fein (sic) and just played Stevie Ray Vaughn "the Sky Is Crying" and yes it made a HUGE difference in how loud I could play the recording.
Super clear at 4.0 on the volume setting, at 3.2 it used to feedback. any louder and the cops would be here visiting LOL !
I've just gone over to trying a 7 oz weight & will give this a try for now but you have given me the idea of trying more weight because as I said earlier from the Revolver Pig to a 4.3 oz then to a 7 oz there is no change in the strobe settings with the weight being in the middle on the Turntable.
Could you pass a double blind test?
nah...I'm out. If a get a record that warped it is getting sent back. If the record is no longer available that's hard luck on me. Hard pass.
i have never use this...and will never use...
These contraptions do not improve the sound of a good quality record whatsoever. However the very expensive ones improve the audiophile’s mood. As far as the warped records are concerned- don’t put them on your turntable.