The duplicate Voyager would be the one that was destroyed because it was established that antimatter cannot be duplicated, that and the polaron bursts they were unwittingly using as a solution was what was causing the problem, and not that "the atoms were degrading or something", as someone that could pronounce "Vidiian" correctly would know. :)
Not only was Janeway made a training hologram, Starfleet promoted her to Admiral. In Star Trek Nemesis Captain Picard got a call from Admiral Janeway to head to Romulus for peace talks.
@@SaroDantra yeah even pass fleet captain. I guess living 7 years with a skeleton crew with few resources, manage transwarp a few times, beat crazy odds in unknown space with no backup will push you 5 ranks ahead
@@Captcook5806 well she did choose a Starfleet career as well as her little sister. Plus she have nothing left. Her fiance thought she was died and moved on, her dog is his and his new wife, her house belongs to someone else.
I binged every episode over 10 days on Netflix recently (can't get Hulu here in Wales), but I loved watching it new every Monday back in the day on Sky One. Steak and pasta, cherry Coke and my weekly dose of Voyager. Ahhhhh, memories.
Relativity is also the one and only episode where you see the actual 7 of 9 wearing an actual uniform. There is one other episode where she's in a normal uniform, but that 7 is just a hologram.
It's like that *1* two-part episode where Captain Jellicoe made Troi wear a regular, regulation Starfleet uniform. Honestly, though, given Marina Sirtis' well-known complaints about some of the outfits they put her in, I'm not sure she minded.
Although crew sometimes refer to the following nonexistent systems, Star Wars vessels have: no shields, no sensors, and seemingly no ability to emit inverse tachyon pulses from their fancy deflectors. Star Wars ships, as rad as they are, have hulls made of Great Value aluminum foil, and rely almost entirely on visual contact and radio communications. A fleet of Star Destroyers would be quickly crippled by a single Starfleet shuttle. The technology gap may as well be Cylons vs. Cavemen.
As far I know star trek generation crew is most likely hated by the company that has to repair the ship because it almost ever episodes that thing get fucked
Bio-memetic Janeway refusing to go back to the demon planet was one of the stupidest Janeway decisions in the show's history. Really cheesed me off that she got everyone killed for no good reason, just because she refused to accept the truth.
Correction: It wasn't bio mimetic organism, but it was mimetic poly alloy in terminator 2. There is a difference being one is organic and the other is artificial. Metallic properties aside that is the only real similarly between the two.
The Year of Hell had me on tenterhooks after Part 1 waiting until the next week when Part 2 aired - then I realised how unlikely it was that anything genuinely bad would happen in these series, when they hit the reset button and it was a non-event :/
I seem to remember the "Hoth" planet of Voyager was a few hours from the Alpha quadrant (at quantum slipstream speeds anyway). They never knew how close they got to home.
They had to exit the tunnel because they could not map the coordinates and their ship was exceeding the structural integrity. They had no choice. The ship was going to break apart. The problem is their exit velocity was too great so they had to find the planet to land.
My best chuckle in all star trek, is there is always someone who beams off the ship without authorisation, the captain always says, "over ride the transport" but their override is always overridden! You'd think they should have sorted that out.
In the duplicate Voyager it did get a bit confusing as to which ship was the original, but in the first Voyager we see a baby is born but dies, Voyager is damaged and Harry Kim gets sucked into outer space, meanwhile on the duplicate ship a baby is born and survives but the mother dies, before destroying Voyager the 2nd Captain Janeway sent Harry Kim with the baby to the original Voyager, the baby being Naomi Wilder
That extra Voyager blowing up must be the source of the materials needed to repair the damaged ship and the extra torpedoes the ship seemed to have in its 'limited' supply
I hate to be that guy, but he pronounced Vidiian wrong... Like, every time. They say their name a few dozen times in the series, not sure how it was missed.
I would just imagine it's full throttle. There's no point in saving fuel if the engines aren't going to survive, and no point in impact mitigation if the ship and crew aren't intended to survive.
It’s not rocks! It’s never been rocks! It’s insulating foam to keep heat from escape the ship. Adequate heat shielding is absolutely essential for the environmental controls to operate properly and efficiently. Even used on the interior walls, floors and ceilings of the ship improves noise reduction, as well as maintaining temperature control in areas surrounding decompressed sections.
The idea behind the foam "rocks" is that you can make the set look really damaged and messed up without actually scratching up the surfaces of the dressed up set in the process. also the foamy explosions are much safer for the cast.
I thinc Capt. Janeway and her original Edwardian hairstyle from the nice and clean Voyager had to be the one of the two to parish( sorta a baptism by fire) for the 'bazaaro' world/side Janeway to witness and be convinced enough to change her hairstyle(90's suburban housewife haircut) and let it hang down, also like loosening the reigns on upholding the 'Prime Directive' to prepare for the more darker circumstances and tribulations for the rest of their continuing journey back home.
YYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you so much for the "RAMMING SPEEED!!" line!!! I always wished that they would've released a comic book adaptation of the "Year of Hell" story so we could've followed what happened to everyone during the parts that got skipped over in the episode. I do find myself wishing that it would've been an entire season, but I don't think they would've been able to keep that level of tension up for more than 4 or 5 episodes; 6 tops. That scene where Janeway melts freaked me out as a kid and made my skin crawl; heart wrenching. The saddest part of that episode was when the probe failed to launch and everything the copies did was just erased from existence; soul crushing. Voyager had some great episodes.
5:38 clearly the writer or director was a fan of the movie "the incredible melting man" lol That is still the only movie i ever walked out of because it scared me. In my own defense, i was 5...
I have a pet theory about the 'rocks' that the super-strong stuff that some parts of whatever's in there are made of will finally just like decohere and come to prefragmented type bits if subjected to whatever phenomenal damage energy lets the magic smoke out and then starts breaking other parts of the set. :)
Let TNG have the most ship explosions, Voyager got taken over more and its personnel got blackmailed more into doing acts against its mission. Not to mention all the insubordination, questionable activities and disregard to local races and civilisation it did during its journey. Admiral material and huge promotions for them all. - unless you're Harry Kim
Correction: The damaged voyager is the real voyager, the one that went boom is the copy. They also killed the real Harry Kim because the producers were kinda pissed off at him and apparently thought it was funny to kill the real one off. Also the real Naomi died and she's just a copy.
I wonder, with all the yanking around different dimensions & times if that puts any quantum or temporal nano cracks in the hull & people? Similarly how constant use of a mechanical part causes micro cracks.
On Babylon 5, season 1, Commander Sinclair has a vision of the station being destroyed, with urgent evacuations. Not parallel universes. It does have an obligatory time travel episode though, as I suppose any SF show must. Just because.
Star Trek speak: Switch on the light = initiate illumination Go ahead = proceed I will check it out = I will run a full diagnostic I don’t know = I ran a full diagnostic but the results are inconclusive I want to do it but just don’t feel like it = the computer is offline I love you and can’t live without you = (stare longer than 2 seconds) I’m not in the mood = I have a quantum headache
It takes three hours to decommission clean and recommission the machine and there's only ten minutes left of my shift = The ice cream machine is broken.
i have a solution for the rocks in the walls they are the back up chemical life support an the rocks filter out harmful stuff from the atmosphere when in dangerous situations.
A fake Destruktion of the Voyager is shownd in= "Think tank" A saying for "Timeless" If a the singel god is not possible... go with the lesser of two evil's.
Omg, stop the waffling and "quantum hangups" and GET ON WITH IT! Also in Year of Hell, it was not annorax that kept attacking voyager, it was the krenim fleet. Voyager was only attacked twice by annorax. If your going to do this videos, then for god sake get your facts right.
I liked the Hoth/slipstream crash one. Although I have to wonder why, instead of doing a long trip struggling against instability in the slipstream, they didn't just do a bunch of smaller, safer trips that wouldn't get them smacked in the face by a planet.
It might be because I'm sleep-deprived today, but on #2 I briefly wondered why Voyager was ramming Babylon 5.
when you say it. Maybe the artists that make them are being a bit lazy :)
It had to be done. Only logical.
HAHAHA 🤣 see my question above!
The duplicate Voyager would be the one that was destroyed because it was established that antimatter cannot be duplicated, that and the polaron bursts they were unwittingly using as a solution was what was causing the problem, and not that "the atoms were degrading or something", as someone that could pronounce "Vidiian" correctly would know. :)
The USS Voyage is practically "Kevin's car" from Star Trek.
*KENOBI!*
The Master of The High Ground.
LOL only ben 10 fans will get the reference
Not only was Janeway made a training hologram, Starfleet promoted her to Admiral. In Star Trek Nemesis Captain Picard got a call from Admiral Janeway to head to Romulus for peace talks.
She even skipped both of the Rear Admiral ranks and went straight to Vice Admiral.
@@SaroDantra yeah even pass fleet captain. I guess living 7 years with a skeleton crew with few resources, manage transwarp a few times, beat crazy odds in unknown space with no backup will push you 5 ranks ahead
@@SaroDantra They sure do promote women very fast in science fiction! This genre seems to be all about affirmative action anyway
It’s actually amazing that after all her experiences in the Delta Quadrant she chose to continue her career in Starfleet.
@@Captcook5806 well she did choose a Starfleet career as well as her little sister. Plus she have nothing left. Her fiance thought she was died and moved on, her dog is his and his new wife, her house belongs to someone else.
Legit cried my eyes out in both 'Course Oblivion' and 'Timeless'. God I miss watching Voyager every Monday night.
I miss voyager too.. So i watch it on Netflix to find out it leaving at the end of month.. Guess its back to my videos lol.
its on Hulu
I binged every episode over 10 days on Netflix recently (can't get Hulu here in Wales), but I loved watching it new every Monday back in the day on Sky One. Steak and pasta, cherry Coke and my weekly dose of Voyager. Ahhhhh, memories.
@@Foxychik40 Sounds good to me.. love the food you was eating too lol. I think its playing on the horror channel Every evening.
@@GenerationFilms what is Hulu please?
The Year of Hell and Timeless are my favorites. But I love when duplicate Janeway so calmly and joyfully said "Welcome to the bridge" then Boom! Lol
Next Video - How Many Roundabouts Did Sisko and the personnel of Deep Space Nine Go Through?
I think you mean Runabouts.
@@builder396 No, no, now that they've said it I want to hear about the roundabouts. The station's spinning all the time, right?
For that matter, How many shuttle craft did Voyager go though? And how do they keep replacing them? Perhaps a really big replcator in the shuttle bay?
@@ericaarseth7678 Industrial replicators were a thing, yeah. They were able to make the Delta Flyer from scratch, after all.
I loved Year of Hell one of the best episodes of the entire series.
Year of Hell is my favorite destruction.
"So B'elanna was a T-1000 all along"
When you start watching one of these videos, you truly never know what you're going to hear. 😄
EVERYONE OFF THE SHIP THERE'S A TERMINATOR
@@jarrodskufcagaming5203 BORG: COME WITH US OF YOU WANT TO LIVE.
Relativity is also the one and only episode where you see the actual 7 of 9 wearing an actual uniform. There is one other episode where she's in a normal uniform, but that 7 is just a hologram.
It's like that *1* two-part episode where Captain Jellicoe made Troi wear a regular, regulation Starfleet uniform. Honestly, though, given Marina Sirtis' well-known complaints about some of the outfits they put her in, I'm not sure she minded.
@@vic5015 Not quite. Sirtis went on to wear a regular uniform for most of the remainder of the show after that. Ryan didn't.
So Voyager is powered by a Steam Engine.
Should that be a Quantum Steam Engine?
Only if no one opens the door to see it’s state, and the cat.
c'mon everyone knows voyager has a state of the art class 7 UK kettle as it power source
@@moorhen6156A 2kW warp engine.,😂
@jdslyman never underestimate a Klingon's ability to shovel coal.
Someone should do a cross over Voyager/Battle of Hoth, Voyager could take out those Walkers easily and perhaps a few hundred Tie-Fighters
Although crew sometimes refer to the following nonexistent systems, Star Wars vessels have: no shields, no sensors, and seemingly no ability to emit inverse tachyon pulses from their fancy deflectors. Star Wars ships, as rad as they are, have hulls made of Great Value aluminum foil, and rely almost entirely on visual contact and radio communications. A fleet of Star Destroyers would be quickly crippled by a single Starfleet shuttle. The technology gap may as well be Cylons vs. Cavemen.
the explanation for the
USS VOYAGER
being fixed between episodes
is because the time
STARDATES
between episodes ranges from
DAYS to WEEKS to MONTHS
As far I know star trek generation crew is most likely hated by the company that has to repair the ship because it almost ever episodes that thing get fucked
Lol isn't it practically every episode? And the next episode the ship is nice and shiny again like it's brand new lol
Just gonna put this out there: Voyager vs Hoth is a cool idea.
After all IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO🤣
Bio-memetic Janeway refusing to go back to the demon planet was one of the stupidest Janeway decisions in the show's history. Really cheesed me off that she got everyone killed for no good reason, just because she refused to accept the truth.
But convenient at the same time, I think, they were melting swamp versions of the crew, they really had no place in the galaxy
All the time they come with clever solutions - but when the whole ship is in danger, they can not even get past a angry miner ship?
Shame the time police didn't arrest everyone on the discovery
Yes, and chuck the whole goddamn show in the trash
We'll just throw that on top of the pile of reasons STD isn't good. Got a really, really good throwing arm?
The quantum slipstream drive would have worked in "Timeless" if B'Elanna had installed the disco ball per instructions...
3:46 'Sir, there is another star trek coming in... It is the Enterprise'
Hoth? They should have called it Coldth.
Correction: It wasn't bio mimetic organism, but it was mimetic poly alloy in terminator 2. There is a difference being one is organic and the other is artificial. Metallic properties aside that is the only real similarly between the two.
I thought it was poly ally alloy?
In bad science fiction anything can be possible: from the sublime to the ridiculous.
Voyager's plunging down on the ice planet was the best!
The Year of Hell had me on tenterhooks after Part 1 waiting until the next week when Part 2 aired - then I realised how unlikely it was that anything genuinely bad would happen in these series, when they hit the reset button and it was a non-event :/
Anybody else thinks the Kreenum Timeship looks like B5!?
Yes, and not an accident.
My favorite was "the battle of Hoth".
Those "rocks" are a mineral called "Oberthium," the same substance all Oberth-class starships were made of.
USS Voyager is INTREPID CLASS
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp I am fully aware that Voyager is an Intrepid-class. The joke obviously went way over your head.
I seem to remember the "Hoth" planet of Voyager was a few hours from the Alpha quadrant (at quantum slipstream speeds anyway). They never knew how close they got to home.
They had to exit the tunnel because they could not map the coordinates and their ship was exceeding the structural integrity. They had no choice. The ship was going to break apart. The problem is their exit velocity was too great so they had to find the planet to land.
Marvel time-police - communist-y. Best insult I've heard in a while.
And we covered them all...even though some of them didn't happen. Next time you need insurance, call Lizardmen insurance.
Voyager was one of my favorite star trek shows.
I know, I guess it's because of kids born when TNG started. I loved Voyager and then watched Enterprise, DS9 & TNG.
Voyager's bridge controls can be locked out anywhere, even from Neelix's mess hall.
And wonder how many times they used the word "conduits". ?
If a starship explodes in the Delta Quadrant, and everyone sees it, did it really happen?
not sure u can count 4 as being destroyed, it was just a rough landing. A bit of paint, some new rocks and its good to go
That last explosion was sweet. Probably ate up a good chunk of that season's CGI budget.
British Ben, Generation Films best host!
Only 5? I could swear it was like every other episode and they didn't even get once per season? Man
My best chuckle in all star trek, is there is always someone who beams off the ship without authorisation, the captain always says, "over ride the transport" but their override is always overridden!
You'd think they should have sorted that out.
If voyager was different movies it would be the Sean Bean of Star Trek
In the duplicate Voyager it did get a bit confusing as to which ship was the original, but in the first Voyager we see a baby is born but dies, Voyager is damaged and Harry Kim gets sucked into outer space, meanwhile on the duplicate ship a baby is born and survives but the mother dies, before destroying Voyager the 2nd Captain Janeway sent Harry Kim with the baby to the original Voyager, the baby being Naomi Wilder
Love British Ben talking about Star Trek!!
No explosion tops the Relativity…it’s peak power Storytelling…and FX…i think I AM about to be drafted to the U.S:S. Relativity !
7:01
-Yeah, Voyager just attack the Borg base in Hoth, to deliver the ring to rule them all, so they can go home through the wardrobe
The ice crash bludy spectacular
That extra Voyager blowing up must be the source of the materials needed to repair the damaged ship and the extra torpedoes the ship seemed to have in its 'limited' supply
You completely butchered the first two times Voyager was destroyed.
I hate to be that guy, but he pronounced Vidiian wrong... Like, every time. They say their name a few dozen times in the series, not sure how it was missed.
@@xDiend It's like he hasn't actually watched the show
Is it just me or does the kremin timeship look like it belongs on Babylon 5
Yeah. Lucky I stopped watching Voyager after the 3rd episode. I first saw the thing just now!
I would still follow Janeway into any fight, ramming speed as a last resort tactic, or no.
did you watch any of these eps?
they was not course corrections in timeless they was sending the threashold of the slipstream to Voyager.
1:20 LOL.. He pronounced it VIDION.. obviously he's an avid watcher of the show.. lol.. Vidiian indeed... ;)
Ah, thats pretty early on in the series, its been a few years since i revisited season one and two
Has ramming speed been defined? Can't imagine it being listed in a helm manual at the Academy 🤔
It has generally been defined as any speed on a ship during an interception where slowing down before collision is not a factor
I would just imagine it's full throttle. There's no point in saving fuel if the engines aren't going to survive, and no point in impact mitigation if the ship and crew aren't intended to survive.
That time Voyager crashed into Babylon 5, and that time Voyager crashed into the winter Olympics.
It’s not rocks! It’s never been rocks! It’s insulating foam to keep heat from escape the ship. Adequate heat shielding is absolutely essential for the environmental controls to operate properly and efficiently. Even used on the interior walls, floors and ceilings of the ship improves noise reduction, as well as maintaining temperature control in areas surrounding decompressed sections.
So its basically rockwool from home depot?
Just Awesome ! Thank you so much for making it !! 😇😇🥰🥰
May the force be with you.....I mean Live long and prosper
I always thought someone should do a video of Voyager steamrolling At-At's and the rebels cheering.
The idea behind the foam "rocks" is that you can make the set look really damaged and messed up without actually scratching up the surfaces of the dressed up set in the process. also the foamy explosions are much safer for the cast.
I thinc Capt. Janeway and her original Edwardian hairstyle from the nice and clean Voyager had to be the one of the two to parish( sorta a baptism by fire) for the 'bazaaro' world/side Janeway to witness and be convinced enough to change her hairstyle(90's suburban housewife haircut) and let it hang down, also like loosening the reigns on upholding the 'Prime Directive' to prepare for the more darker circumstances and tribulations for the rest of their continuing journey back home.
Ben is so wonderful
Corse Oblivion is sodepressing, also all of voyager is in a parrallel universe and they all died in season 2
YYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for the "RAMMING SPEEED!!" line!!!
I always wished that they would've released a comic book adaptation of the "Year of Hell" story so we could've followed what happened to everyone during the parts that got skipped over in the episode. I do find myself wishing that it would've been an entire season, but I don't think they would've been able to keep that level of tension up for more than 4 or 5 episodes; 6 tops.
That scene where Janeway melts freaked me out as a kid and made my skin crawl; heart wrenching. The saddest part of that episode was when the probe failed to launch and everything the copies did was just erased from existence; soul crushing.
Voyager had some great episodes.
5:38 clearly the writer or director was a fan of the movie "the incredible melting man" lol
That is still the only movie i ever walked out of because it scared me.
In my own defense, i was 5...
Ramming speed!
Do an episode on how many times. Janeway lost Voyager. 4 or 5 by my count. Maybe more.
Oh like how many times it was stolen? And i seem to remember the warp core was stolen too one time
@@GenerationFilms stolen or when they were able to dump it. And someone salvage it?
@@GenerationFilms Just do it.
Irony of the ep where the WC is stolen is that Voyager carried a spare warp core.
next: every time miranda class is destroyed in star trek
I have a pet theory about the 'rocks' that the super-strong stuff that some parts of whatever's in there are made of will finally just like decohere and come to prefragmented type bits if subjected to whatever phenomenal damage energy lets the magic smoke out and then starts breaking other parts of the set. :)
Let TNG have the most ship explosions, Voyager got taken over more and its personnel got blackmailed more into doing acts against its mission. Not to mention all the insubordination, questionable activities and disregard to local races and civilisation it did during its journey. Admiral material and huge promotions for them all. - unless you're Harry Kim
Should've just called it the 'Timeline List' of episodes
excellent vid as usual :D any chance you could do all of Daniel Jacksons deaths in SG-1
And the Rory deaths in Doctor Who!
Asimov had the best and original time police.
He is still the king of sci-fi. Of course he had the best.
JCVD was the original Timecop
So many copies and duplicates.
Basically the Voyager that left was FLAC, and the one that came back was 128 mp3
Correction: The damaged voyager is the real voyager, the one that went boom is the copy. They also killed the real Harry Kim because the producers were kinda pissed off at him and apparently thought it was funny to kill the real one off. Also the real Naomi died and she's just a copy.
Thanks. Thats really messed up
who doesnt like watching things explode
I wonder, with all the yanking around different dimensions & times if that puts any quantum or temporal nano cracks in the hull & people? Similarly how constant use of a mechanical part causes micro cracks.
They semi-covered that in relativity with something they called 'sensory ephasia.'
Ever seen a capacitor explode?
"Quantum Ramming"
That ship was on - torpedos for 98% of the journey also aren’t rocks good for radiation absorption 😂😂😂 wouldn’t we do the-same
On Babylon 5, season 1, Commander Sinclair has a vision of the station being destroyed, with urgent evacuations. Not parallel universes.
It does have an obligatory time travel episode though, as I suppose any SF show must. Just because.
and one hell of time travel twist for Mr sinclair
A 1994 movie by the name Timecop staring Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Star Trek speak:
Switch on the light = initiate illumination
Go ahead = proceed
I will check it out = I will run a full diagnostic
I don’t know = I ran a full diagnostic but the results are inconclusive
I want to do it but just don’t feel like it = the computer is offline
I love you and can’t live without you = (stare longer than 2 seconds)
I’m not in the mood = I have a quantum headache
It takes three hours to decommission clean and recommission the machine and there's only ten minutes left of my shift = The ice cream machine is broken.
The Phasers aren't doing S***!!! = No effect
@@GenerationFilms shoot the shit out of them = arm and ready photon torpedoes
cant watch these anymore, you keep banging on about quantum and time all the fing time lol
Aren't you the Credit Shifu?
The jokes made this video hard to get through.
Quantum slipstream driiive
3.22 , the damage Voyager is the real 1 ,& beauty 1 is the Duplicate you know ,,
i have a solution for the rocks in the walls they are the back up chemical life support an the rocks filter out harmful stuff from the atmosphere when in dangerous situations.
A fake Destruktion of the Voyager is shownd in= "Think tank"
A saying for "Timeless" If a the singel god is not possible... go with the lesser of two evil's.
Ha. Hoth thing was funny.
Not nearly enough times.
Yep
i love kate mulgrew's voice and she used to look ok but her hologram is nice
Any chance of more stargate content???
Too much talking. A compilation would've been fine.
Quantum
Please please please stop using that Antman clip. Pleeaassseeee....Quantum's an old meme, got it.
How old are you?
@@Fearsome_Gonad In this incarnation or overall?
Omg, stop the waffling and "quantum hangups" and GET ON WITH IT! Also in Year of Hell, it was not annorax that kept attacking voyager, it was the krenim fleet. Voyager was only attacked twice by annorax.
If your going to do this videos, then for god sake get your facts right.
How do you Vidian ? Veedian, no
I liked the Hoth/slipstream crash one. Although I have to wonder why, instead of doing a long trip struggling against instability in the slipstream, they didn't just do a bunch of smaller, safer trips that wouldn't get them smacked in the face by a planet.
dude the quantum joke is lame now drop it😐