Century old conservativeness is destroying Hinduism, Sabarimala is not separte from it. why women should not be allowed? Have the men folk forgotten, they are born from the womb of a woman. Shame on South Indian brahmins. Politics is everywhere.
For man it’s a beautiful feeling that he getting unconditional love from his mother, sister, wife , daughter and a lover….as a men its can never be repay this debt….apart from this…there is a Maalikapurathamma, who wait for ayyappan for last several centuries….who vows to take care of human against kaliyuga…with a condition as a bramachari….as a human its our duty to preserve a legendary love story….atleast…so please..
@@swastiksuvesh6032 oo so according to u which religion is libreal. U are raising questions on sabimala first of all gain some knowledge about it. A person had to do 41 days bramhacharya fast so that they can have control on their lust and physical desrire and attractions. But women who mensurate can't complete that fast as they mensurate. When a women mensurate lots of hormones are released with toxic inside a female body. That's why women who mensurate aren't allowed. This is a matter of sensibility not inequality. There are some temples where men are not allowed and that is not gender discrimination byt the story and the belief behind that temple. U need to understand temples are not like mosque or church where u only worship one god. In Hinduism there are crores of deity we follow and every one had there one story that's why the rule of every temple is not same. And as per as i concerned i had never seen any hindu forcefully asking to convert their religion unlike muslims and Christian missinories
harshita RAMAN without knowing the facts you should add everything with to conservatinism. I m not a conservative Hindu nor a castist if it's some other temple your points are legal it's a case of exclusive case go to debate on Rs tv
Even the women for whom the Sabarimala temple doors were open, they are also resisting the SC'sorder n funnily only Activist/female journalists are trying to enter the Shrine to make it Activists' victory over age-old faith of the devotees....
All devotees are allowed in temple irrespective of their caste, religion and race... It's great. If a priest from ST or SC category is leading the prayers then all upper caste priests must touch his feet. They all still have their caste and respecting each other. Caste does not mean discrimination. Discrimination must stuck down in any case. 🙏🙏🙏 Those people, who are supporting court's verdict, are activists and such kind of activism is trying to hurt our culture. They want to destroy devotees belief otherwise they do not have any concern with it. How can a half century old law destroy our culture? Law of India turning country toward civil war...
It's not because of Kaliyuga it's because of Christian missionaries funding to raise cast conversions and terrorist's like Hafiz Saeed funding Muslims to distroy Hinduism.
@Vibhu I don't think cast system is distroyed from 1000 years example people who blaming Brahmmins for cast system they don't remember that whether it is Mangal Pandey or Subhash Chandra,Bala Gangadhar Tilak or Tanguturi Prakasam, most of the Brahmmins united all the cast's people to fight against Britishers but problem is Gandhi and Nehru succeeded to distroy Ambedkar sir's dreams by not accepting Sanskrit become our national language if it is then everyone would learnt Veda's and itihasas then everyone would have Janevu like once Mahabharat kaal tak sabko janeu Dharan bidhi tha isiliye Shudra kul ka Vyasa Maharshi Ved Ko 4 tukdom Mey Vibhajit karkey Ved Vyasa baney,Chor baney Valmiki. Also India remains 100% educated nation because Veda's have unlimited amount of knowledge in it example world's first test tube baby is Duryodhan, gravity was discovered by Bhaskaracharya he also invented a machine that generates electricity with the help of gravity etc many more.
Kindly show the truth even that most of the women who tried to enter the temple aren't of Hindu religion & they're purely stating themselves as "Ethist" on their personal posts to the "Apex Court of Nation" & they're even challenging & creating a kind of violence with their words. Agreed they have right to speak & expression but won't one's word cause a group of person hurt emotionally? Are emotions not considered in law? Are hindu beliefs not respected?
you mean to say hate speech should be criminalised? NO i agree that morally someone should not hurt someone's emotion but practically the other side has to understand that someone is hurt if they took it on themselves. one cannot criminalise someone for how much ever hurting his words are UNLESS if obviously they are spreading fake news or inciting violence in other community towards others than that is not hate speech but a real crime which should be addresseda and penalised. Law should not protect someones emotions, teach them to be tough instead. otherwise everyone will get hurt by everything others say and society will be a difficult place to leave in.
Ma’am do you feel this was due to discrimination towards women...... then you should better stand up for Muslim women who are , not from recently but since the very beginning of Islam, who are prohibited and banned from entering a mosque. Why don’t you stand up for that. All the discrimination you find in Hinduism only and not in other religions?. It is not that because of women have to be refrained from entering the temple but there are certain reasons because if this reasons this non allowances have been observed. Among this one reason is that Swami iyappa was a follower of sanyaasa dharma but after all this a certain age group of women are not allowed which most of us are aware but a girl or a old women who are out of their mensuration cycle are allowed... my question is are they not women?? It is totally hypocritical on the part of those so called women who tried to enter. And speaking of which one was muslim women who is a journalist. Here my question is to her that journalists are going to decide how religious establishment will be run . And if she was so concerned then why don’t she talk and take same step what she did here, against prohibition of muslim women from entering a mosque. Their she don’t feel discrimination is happening. This is very bad .... Indian govts have to curb the rights of media and journalists,to some extent.
@24/7 Gamer that is your sick mindset. Muslims have separate masjid for men and women. Even though people like you say this, we Muslims have been with Hindus on shabarimala issue. I have a lot of hindu friends who will gladly fight for me, if my rights are voilated. First of all, stop thinking hindu Muslims. We think of other women or girls as our sisters unlike you. Atleast in kerala it's like that! Ur nasty northies can't divide Muslims and Hindus which is a friendship that lasted centuries in kerala.
I m from east india n I Support Lord Ayyappa devotees. The communist way of hindu faith cleansing can't be accepted. Whole india stand with u Kerala hindus. #swami_saranam
I believe that judgement of this issue is draconic as this issue doesn't hurt any religious sentiment of women under art. 25 as women of all age group are allowed to worship lord ayyappa in all other shrines except sabari mala. Also in constitution under art15 it doesn't mention discrimination on age. Like when emergency is declared some articles of FR are vanished with respect to welfare of public and public interest, this case can allow exceptions and allow religious institutions to decide further.
For better understanding..clear voice is very need...smiriti mam has quality of that..rstv has to do the work for selecting the good candidature for such important programme.
Temples are not from Vedic culture. They are non-Vedic and Tantric origin. That is the reason, old South Indian temples have a Tanthri(who performs Tantra in special occasion) along with priests. Agamas and Vaastu Shastra are of non-Vedic origin.
In post-Vedic Hinduism and specially in South India - God is created by human and We are not created by God(someone sitting on top). Agamas and Tantra are used to create Deity. God can be of 2 types - Saguna Brahman and Nirguna Brahman. Diety (Saguna Brahman) can be of 3 types - Created using an Yantra, Installing an energy of dead person but who has not reincarnated, Using tools to extract power from special places on earth. Ayyapan is of second type of Deity. Theyyam and Buta Kola are also example of 2nd type of Deity. In Old South Indian temples, people with 5 types of Impurities are not allowed and expected to come to the inner part of the temple beyond Flag Post.
All the biased channels in india must learn how to report truly by watching this video. Media is not for doing buisness only learn to have some ethics for your profession...swamiye saranam ayyappa
please, I understand that loss our debate in we started with women issue means we get 25, 14,15.....a, 2b that's all, if our debtor struck blocked by law, we never won, when we have Tantri and tantra shastra , it's act, Pandalam family and Tantri's supreme role in Shabharimala, it's own reticule and costumes,Devasam board it's agenda then only 100% we win in media debate and court also otherwise our self we won't understand
The god doesn't discriminates ,but yes the people do. Restricting women of a particular age group tells us that they were born to be a different person at different age .Always they have been treated this way,everyone expects the women to change ,but can't the men even change their thoughts??This is not to point at any religion ,what's wrong is wrong. And those talking about faith the women don't they have faith??or is it just the men again
There is a difference between discrimination and the nature of the deity. Here the restriction is not based on discrimination, rather this is based on the Nature of the deity. Who took a Vrat of Eternal brahmacharya (Naishtika). This is not a matter of discrimination.
The public protests showed the reaction of devotees to a judicial order questioning a religious faith.This looks like a prelude to the build up for the Ram Janmabhoomi temple.Waiting for the October 29 SC hearing.
she finds lot of difficulty in forming one word, to form a sentence she is not clear as to which side she could be . it is better to keep quite to be sensible. you dont have to show your intelligence if you have any. judges are above lord iyyappa, they rule the religion now, by their law book and intelligence they wish to be named in history as social reformers like any reformist born in India, first to bring westernized ideas of gender equalization for all purpose except the female labor pain which is not in his control. if you care to look deep, you will find many more. unfortunately no devotee will accept the superiority of human beings in any rank who are appointed by other ordinary humans, by any law. just being in the position of his employment and taking a salary, does not mean he is the ultimate for all judgment including spiritual matters. please pass on the the matter to whom the subject is understood and socially accepted since time immemorial. or else you will screw up this country you are living in.
I think the sabrimalla issue not only devalue the women in the Society but also it derogate the verdicts of highest apex court of our country ....this issue is big challenge to egalitarian Society..
In regard to polygamy .I m self want protest but the thing that halts me is why women want to Marry with married man if she know about his wife or marriage .so here it mean women can express and full fill her choice In Islam it is not allowed to marry other women untill he not allowed by his existing wife to Marry with other . If man do it with out consent of wife than marriage is illigal in islam and also have to penalize fir this ... Women cont do polygamy coz than there is confusion in recognizing the father of child .hope u understand dear
If u dont feel like Ayaippa as god then just leave him alone with their devotee. .. just mind ur business.. who is asking for ur opinion.. one can't hurt other to impose ur opinion on them..
Nobody has right to obstruct or prevent women from entering the temple . All women can enter the temple freely now . State is duty bound to exercise it's power ( including the use of legitimate force ) and uphold the court's verdict . The criminal miscreants who are encroaching upon the constitutional rights of women must be punished .
If you are implying that we are discriminating against women, please don't do that. The courts in India were given power to meddle in Hindu temples because lots of stupid people in the past didn't allow certain groups and sects to enter their temples. And if your point is discrimination still happens in some parts of India, I agree wholeheartedly. I am against any form of discrimination be it religion/ caste/any group. I am not disputing that. What I am saying though, is this issue is not discrimination. Please don't equate this to discrimination. Discriminating would have been to not allow all women into the temple. Here the point is not allowing women of menstruating age. And there is a reason for that and it is not ,"Misogyny". The God in question has been celibate his whole life and the devotees which come to see him do very rigorous things for 41 days like, waking up very early in the winter morning, always using cold water for whatever cleaning and washing, not eating food cooked in the home , but eating good only made by fellow person who vowed to follow the same rules, only eating very early and after sunset, they don't touch any objects and clothing except for theirs and fellow devotees. Can you imagine leading this lifestyle for 41 days!!!?. And then they journey, treck with no footwear or upper body clothing, by the way all in winter months ,to have darshan of Ayyappa swamy. They do this , which to be fair feels like crazy and tough for normal people, in the belief that, it will give them spiritual clarity and make their lives and families lives better with the gods blessing. This is the belief which was present and as been propagated for centuries. And the court run roughshod over these beliefs, which for them are sacred and held dear to heart, with extending and equating untouchability (Discrimination) to this practice. This is my point and of most enraged followers. I hope you understand. And I won't say ," you not bring a Hindu, how can you comment about our religion"..... No I won't. What I am stating in this long diatribe of mine is to have some Perspective and understanding. How would you feel if some court of a country or International court demanded that certain beliefs of whatever religion you belong to, were unseemly in this day and age and told to change them. Would your religious authority or fellow followers will be completely ok and say " Of course we will follow the Judge"?? This is the rhetoric, which is entirely based on your feelings with no perspective that is driving people away from your view. I hope you now have a view of why this whole thing has been hotbed for resentment and anger, and not discrimination. If you still can't understand , then God bless you. Have a good life. Jai hind.
@@harmandeepkaur5725 I have studied this subject and the number of women who have menarche before 10 and menopause after 50 will not be even 0.001%. Please state facts, not your feelings.
@@harmandeepkaur5725 Why can't you respect a large group of peoples religious beliefs??? I don't understand this... There is no malicious intent behind this tradition. I just explained above the perspective of the people who worship Swamy and you just can't get off your high horse to understand them. Where is the vaunted social acceptance of personal religious beliefs and where is the tolerance. People like you have pushed a majority of world into the hand of the Right, please don't do this in India. We are just trying to improve ourselves and disrupting the balance between right and left is the last thing we need. And you are the definition of NPC, look it up.
Sir we respect your feelings....but we just say that only on the basis of mnthly prblm...how we can debarred a large group of the society from entring the temple...specially those group who can make the base for the society.....
@@harmandeepkaur5725 I just told In a very long diatribe about why this tradition even came in the first place. Let me reiterate.. If you are implying that we are discriminating against women, please don't do that. What I am saying though, is this issue is not discrimination. Please don't equate this to discrimination. Discriminating would have been to not allow all women into the temple. Here the point is not allowing women of menstruating age. And there is a reason for that and it is not ,"Misogyny". The God in question has been celibate his whole life and the devotees which come to see him do very rigorous things for 41 days like, waking up very early in the winter morning, always using cold water for whatever cleaning and washing, not eating food cooked in the home , but eating good only made by fellow person who vowed to follow the same rules, only eating very early and after sunset, they don't touch any objects and clothing except for theirs and fellow devotees. Can you imagine leading this lifestyle for 41 days!!!?. And then they journey, treck with no footwear or upper body clothing, by the way all in winter months ,to have darshan of Ayyappa swamy. They do this , which to be fair feels like crazy and tough for normal people, in the belief that, it will give them spiritual clarity and make their lives and families lives better with the gods blessing. This is the belief which was present and as been propagated for centuries. And the court run roughshod over these beliefs, which for them are sacred and held dear to heart, with extending and equating untouchability (Discrimination) to this practice. This is my point and of most enraged followers. I hope you understand. And I won't say ," you not bring a Hindu, how can you comment about our religion"..... No I won't. What I am stating in this long diatribe of mine is to have some Perspective and understanding. I hope you now have a view of why this whole thing has been hotbed for resentment and anger, and not discrimination.
Save women right ....not God rights ....!!!obey law of sc ...!!!what the he'll with Kerala protesters !!!let's see what happen if women enterance lord aiyappa will not run !!!molester ,rapist ,lier,murder can enter temple but not menstruating women ...!!!!what the morality lies ..!!!what constitution says
This is 800 year old temple in middle of Tiger forest. Before roads and infrastructure, people used to walk for months to reach the temple. Custom of restriction for young women was made for their safety. Technically you should not blame God. You should not change gods nature. Do, you think people will like if Ram has another wife or Mary is not virgin etc.
@@vay765 I don't believe in mythology. This is very important temple, people who come here are very dedicated, they fast for 40 days, they keep their mind pure, they control their bad habits and emotions. No constitution or king can do such an event. Finally India is land of great culture, where people celebrate holi and Diwali for fun, dussera for respecting elders, raksha bandhan for respecting sisters, Ganesh chaturthi for local gathering etc. In the name of rights we can't destroy our culture.
Thanks for truth coverage of sabarimala issue. ...it's a request to my country people to save this temple from dirty politicals.
Century old conservativeness is destroying Hinduism, Sabarimala is not separte from it. why women should not be allowed? Have the men folk forgotten, they are born from the womb of a woman. Shame on South Indian brahmins. Politics is everywhere.
For man it’s a beautiful feeling that he getting unconditional love from his mother, sister, wife , daughter and a lover….as a men its can never be repay this debt….apart from this…there is a Maalikapurathamma, who wait for ayyappan for last several centuries….who vows to take care of human against kaliyuga…with a condition as a bramachari….as a human its our duty to preserve a legendary love story….atleast…so please..
@@swastiksuvesh6032 oo so according to u which religion is libreal. U are raising questions on sabimala first of all gain some knowledge about it. A person had to do 41 days bramhacharya fast so that they can have control on their lust and physical desrire and attractions. But women who mensurate can't complete that fast as they mensurate. When a women mensurate lots of hormones are released with toxic inside a female body. That's why women who mensurate aren't allowed. This is a matter of sensibility not inequality. There are some temples where men are not allowed and that is not gender discrimination byt the story and the belief behind that temple. U need to understand temples are not like mosque or church where u only worship one god. In Hinduism there are crores of deity we follow and every one had there one story that's why the rule of every temple is not same. And as per as i concerned i had never seen any hindu forcefully asking to convert their religion unlike muslims and Christian missinories
I m vith sabrimala unlike Muslims and Christian Hindu's temples are not just place for worship it has more to do with.
harshita RAMAN without knowing the facts you should add everything with to conservatinism.
I m not a conservative Hindu nor a castist if it's some other temple your points are legal it's a case of exclusive case go to debate on Rs tv
Thanks RajyaSabha TV for complete story of lord ayyappa. please save my religion faith #SaveSabarimala
You cant impose things on the name of progessiveness....well said mam
Most important point put in a beautiful way of pacifying discrimination in our society is from 18:35
Unbiased journalism.
Amazing.
Even the women for whom the Sabarimala temple doors were open, they are also resisting the SC'sorder n funnily only Activist/female journalists are trying to enter the Shrine to make it Activists' victory over age-old faith of the devotees....
Non Hindu , atheist activists actually...
@@0di8ayh57 you are right
Excellent reporting
swami saranam
All devotees are allowed in temple irrespective of their caste, religion and race... It's great. If a priest from ST or SC category is leading the prayers then all upper caste priests must touch his feet. They all still have their caste and respecting each other. Caste does not mean discrimination. Discrimination must stuck down in any case.
🙏🙏🙏
Those people, who are supporting court's verdict, are activists and such kind of activism is trying to hurt our culture. They want to destroy devotees belief otherwise they do not have any concern with it.
How can a half century old law destroy our culture?
Law of India turning country toward civil war...
Om Shantii.....Just wait Lord Ayaappa will show Everyone another disaster is laid by the so called liberal SC.....
सबरीमाला मंदिर के लिए भारत के सभी हिंदू केरल वासियों के साथ है
Please save sabrimala. Shame on kerala government. It's time to protect our ancient sacred culture.
invigoratinglife.com/2019/01/sabarimala-a-question-of-women-empowerment/
Save sabarimala
You forgot to mention that Hindu woman and man will die protecting Ayyappa's land
Thank u Very much
Not surprised, since we are in Kali yuga. This is just the beginning!
It's not because of Kaliyuga it's because of Christian missionaries funding to raise cast conversions and terrorist's like Hafiz Saeed funding Muslims to distroy Hinduism.
@Vibhu I don't think cast system is distroyed from 1000 years example people who blaming Brahmmins for cast system they don't remember that whether it is Mangal Pandey or Subhash Chandra,Bala Gangadhar Tilak or Tanguturi Prakasam, most of the Brahmmins united all the cast's people to fight against Britishers but problem is Gandhi and Nehru succeeded to distroy Ambedkar sir's dreams by not accepting Sanskrit become our national language if it is then everyone would learnt Veda's and itihasas then everyone would have Janevu like once Mahabharat kaal tak sabko janeu Dharan bidhi tha isiliye Shudra kul ka Vyasa Maharshi Ved Ko 4 tukdom Mey Vibhajit karkey Ved Vyasa baney,Chor baney Valmiki.
Also India remains 100% educated nation because Veda's have unlimited amount of knowledge in it example world's first test tube baby is Duryodhan, gravity was discovered by Bhaskaracharya he also invented a machine that generates electricity with the help of gravity etc many more.
Kindly show the truth even that most of the women who tried to enter the temple aren't of Hindu religion & they're purely stating themselves as "Ethist" on their personal posts to the "Apex Court of Nation" & they're even challenging & creating a kind of violence with their words. Agreed they have right to speak & expression but won't one's word cause a group of person hurt emotionally?
Are emotions not considered in law?
Are hindu beliefs not respected?
you mean to say hate speech should be criminalised? NO
i agree that morally someone should not hurt someone's emotion but practically the other side has to understand that someone is hurt if they took it on themselves.
one cannot criminalise someone for how much ever hurting his words are
UNLESS if obviously they are spreading fake news or inciting violence in other community towards others than that is not hate speech but a real crime which should be addresseda and penalised.
Law should not protect someones emotions, teach them to be tough instead.
otherwise everyone will get hurt by everything others say and society will be a difficult place to leave in.
and regarding sabrimala, what atheist woman are doing is immoral, but should you criminalise them? "not yet"
So true, no sincerely practicing Hindu religion women will ever care to visit places.
Excellent coverage.
Ma’am do you feel this was due to discrimination towards women...... then you should better stand up for Muslim women who are , not from recently but since the very beginning of Islam, who are prohibited and banned from entering a mosque. Why don’t you stand up for that. All the discrimination you find in Hinduism only and not in other religions?.
It is not that because of women have to be refrained from entering the temple but there are certain reasons because if this reasons this non allowances have been observed. Among this one reason is that Swami iyappa was a follower of sanyaasa dharma but after all this a certain age group of women are not allowed which most of us are aware but a girl or a old women who are out of their mensuration cycle are allowed... my question is are they not women??
It is totally hypocritical on the part of those so called women who tried to enter. And speaking of which one was muslim women who is a journalist. Here my question is to her that journalists are going to decide how religious establishment will be run . And if she was so concerned then why don’t she talk and take same step what she did here, against prohibition of muslim women from entering a mosque. Their she don’t feel discrimination is happening.
This is very bad .... Indian govts have to curb the rights of media and journalists,to some extent.
Very true. Why our religion is targeted. Why why why. Stop this
Fyi muslim women are not prohibited from entering mosque
See police damaging the 2-wheelers @ Video time 4:55
#save sabarimala
Thanks rstv..
SANJAY u
What about entry of women in masjid. Why supreme Court is silent for all these years. Why why why
@24/7 Gamer that is your sick mindset. Muslims have separate masjid for men and women. Even though people like you say this, we Muslims have been with Hindus on shabarimala issue. I have a lot of hindu friends who will gladly fight for me, if my rights are voilated. First of all, stop thinking hindu Muslims. We think of other women or girls as our sisters unlike you. Atleast in kerala it's like that! Ur nasty northies can't divide Muslims and Hindus which is a friendship that lasted centuries in kerala.
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Justice Indu Malhotra's comments on the issue is applausing.
who cares? she is a stupid woman...isnt it the opinion of 4 strong, powerfull all knowing men judges?
Save sabarimlaaa🙏
I m from east india n I Support Lord Ayyappa devotees. The communist way of hindu faith cleansing can't be accepted. Whole india stand with u Kerala hindus.
#swami_saranam
binay nayak Thank you 🙏 Swami Sharanam
Some immoral opportunistic devotees are trying to enter the temple
That is disgusting
very nicely explained!
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I believe that judgement of this issue is draconic as this issue doesn't hurt any religious sentiment of women under art. 25 as women of all age group are allowed to worship lord ayyappa in all other shrines except sabari mala. Also in constitution under art15 it doesn't mention discrimination on age. Like when emergency is declared some articles of FR are vanished with respect to welfare of public and public interest, this case can allow exceptions and allow religious institutions to decide further.
For better understanding..clear voice is very need...smiriti mam has quality of that..rstv has to do the work for selecting the good candidature for such important programme.
If india is a secular country, how can they intervene in religious matters?
Please find out where rahul easwar is
#SaveSabrimala
Well done!
Ma'am centre state financial relations can u please make a video on that!!
Temples are not from Vedic culture. They are non-Vedic and Tantric origin. That is the reason, old South Indian temples have a Tanthri(who performs Tantra in special occasion) along with priests. Agamas and Vaastu Shastra are of non-Vedic origin.
In post-Vedic Hinduism and specially in South India - God is created by human and We are not created by God(someone sitting on top). Agamas and Tantra are used to create Deity. God can be of 2 types - Saguna Brahman and Nirguna Brahman. Diety (Saguna Brahman) can be of 3 types - Created using an Yantra, Installing an energy of dead person but who has not reincarnated, Using tools to extract power from special places on earth.
Ayyapan is of second type of Deity. Theyyam and Buta Kola are also example of 2nd type of Deity. In Old South Indian temples, people with 5 types of Impurities are not allowed and expected to come to the inner part of the temple beyond Flag Post.
Hope hindus wake up
It's pampa not pamba.. Is it so hard to read??
All the biased channels in india must learn how to report truly by watching this video. Media is not for doing buisness only learn to have some ethics for your profession...swamiye saranam ayyappa
Good rajya sabha TV atlast some story of ayyappa
jb hm sari prmprao ko man rhe to ise manna v hmra mul adhikar hona chahiye
Courts should know their boundaries themselves ,
since there is no body to interpret to them.
Thanks
Kerala has become another Kashmir
Don't know why North South ends of India are suffering?
Salute to Kerala Police for trying their best .
Good Job
Send them to Mecca , let’s see what happens
save kerla hindus
save sabrimala from christian missionaries
What is the point that atheist women are trying to spy the holiest of the holy shabrimala temple? Have they visited any other temple in their life?
Supreme court is an left leaning and Christian pleasing institute
Religions do not advocate performing inequality among people ,women are our mother sister and other relatives
Make a mulla a female..and preach equality by allowing ur mothers and sisters to masjid..
There are 1000 of places where women need to do things better then what they are doing now. Rather then mess up with Hindu religion.
please, I understand that loss our debate in we started with women issue means we get 25, 14,15.....a, 2b that's all, if our debtor struck blocked by law, we never won, when we have Tantri and tantra shastra , it's act, Pandalam family and Tantri's supreme role in Shabharimala, it's own reticule and costumes,Devasam board it's agenda then only 100% we win in media debate and court also otherwise our self we won't understand
The god doesn't discriminates ,but yes the people do.
Restricting women of a particular age group tells us that they were born to be a different person at different age .Always they have been treated this way,everyone expects the women to change ,but can't the men even change their thoughts??This is not to point at any religion ,what's wrong is wrong.
And those talking about faith the women don't they have faith??or is it just the men again
There is a difference between discrimination and the nature of the deity.
Here the restriction is not based on discrimination, rather this is based on the Nature of the deity. Who took a Vrat of Eternal brahmacharya (Naishtika).
This is not a matter of discrimination.
why this age group why not all women
Because Ayyappa is a celibate
I love rstv
The public protests showed the reaction of devotees to a judicial order questioning a religious faith.This looks like a prelude to the build up for the Ram Janmabhoomi temple.Waiting for the October 29 SC hearing.
Plz upload in hindi
she finds lot of difficulty in forming one word, to form a sentence she is not clear as to which side she could be . it is better to keep quite to be sensible. you dont have to show your intelligence if you have any. judges are above lord iyyappa, they rule the religion now, by their law book and intelligence they wish to be named in history as social reformers like any reformist born in India, first to bring westernized ideas of gender equalization for all purpose except the female labor pain which is not in his control. if you care to look deep, you will find many more. unfortunately no devotee will accept the superiority of human beings in any rank who are appointed by other ordinary humans, by any law. just being in the position of his employment and taking a salary, does not mean he is the ultimate for all judgment including spiritual matters. please pass on the the matter to whom the subject is understood and socially accepted since time immemorial. or else you will screw up this country you are living in.
This whole thing is so stupid
I think the sabrimalla issue not only devalue the women in the Society but also it derogate the verdicts of highest apex court of our country ....this issue is big challenge to egalitarian Society..
Why can't we protest to ban polygamy and nikah halala first. I mean 4 wives for a man followed by her rape for remarriage
Please find the facts before commenting
In regard to polygamy .I m self want protest but the thing that halts me is why women want to Marry with married man if she know about his wife or marriage .so here it mean women can express and full fill her choice
In Islam it is not allowed to marry other women untill he not allowed by his existing wife to Marry with other .
If man do it with out consent of wife than marriage is illigal in islam and also have to penalize fir this ...
Women cont do polygamy coz than there is confusion in recognizing the father of child .hope u understand dear
Hell with Ayaippa and hell with shabrimala ,It is not god who discriminates
Hell with you
You first study about Hinduism.Half knowledge is very dangerous
Urban Naxal spotted
Please find the facts before commenting
If u dont feel like Ayaippa as god then just leave him alone with their devotee. .. just mind ur business.. who is asking for ur opinion.. one can't hurt other to impose ur opinion on them..
Nobody has right to obstruct or prevent women from entering the temple . All women can enter the temple freely now . State is duty bound to exercise it's power ( including the use of legitimate force ) and uphold the court's verdict . The criminal miscreants who are encroaching upon the constitutional rights of women must be punished .
If you are implying that we are discriminating against women, please don't do that. The courts in India were given power to meddle in Hindu temples because lots of stupid people in the past didn't allow certain groups and sects to enter their temples. And if your point is discrimination still happens in some parts of India, I agree wholeheartedly. I am against any form of discrimination be it religion/ caste/any group. I am not disputing that.
What I am saying though, is this issue is not discrimination. Please don't equate this to discrimination.
Discriminating would have been to not allow all women into the temple. Here the point is not allowing women of menstruating age. And there is a reason for that and it is not ,"Misogyny". The God in question has been celibate his whole life and the devotees which come to see him do very rigorous things for 41 days like, waking up very early in the winter morning, always using cold water for whatever cleaning and washing, not eating food cooked in the home , but eating good only made by fellow person who vowed to follow the same rules, only eating very early and after sunset, they don't touch any objects and clothing except for theirs and fellow devotees. Can you imagine leading this lifestyle for 41 days!!!?. And then they journey, treck with no footwear or upper body clothing, by the way all in winter months ,to have darshan of Ayyappa swamy. They do this , which to be fair feels like crazy and tough for normal people, in the belief that, it will give them spiritual clarity and make their lives and families lives better with the gods blessing. This is the belief which was present and as been propagated for centuries.
And the court run roughshod over these beliefs, which for them are sacred and held dear to heart, with extending and equating untouchability (Discrimination) to this practice. This is my point and of most enraged followers. I hope you understand.
And I won't say ," you not bring a Hindu, how can you comment about our religion"..... No I won't. What I am stating in this long diatribe of mine is to have some Perspective and understanding. How would you feel if some court of a country or International court demanded that certain beliefs of whatever religion you belong to, were unseemly in this day and age and told to change them. Would your religious authority or fellow followers will be completely ok and say " Of course we will follow the Judge"??
This is the rhetoric, which is entirely based on your feelings with no perspective that is driving people away from your view.
I hope you now have a view of why this whole thing has been hotbed for resentment and anger, and not discrimination. If you still can't understand , then God bless you. Have a good life. Jai hind.
@@harmandeepkaur5725 I have studied this subject and the number of women who have menarche before 10 and menopause after 50 will not be even 0.001%. Please state facts, not your feelings.
@@harmandeepkaur5725 Why can't you respect a large group of peoples religious beliefs??? I don't understand this... There is no malicious intent behind this tradition. I just explained above the perspective of the people who worship Swamy and you just can't get off your high horse to understand them.
Where is the vaunted social acceptance of personal religious beliefs and where is the tolerance. People like you have pushed a majority of world into the hand of the Right, please don't do this in India. We are just trying to improve ourselves and disrupting the balance between right and left is the last thing we need.
And you are the definition of NPC, look it up.
Sir we respect your feelings....but we just say that only on the basis of mnthly prblm...how we can debarred a large group of the society from entring the temple...specially those group who can make the base for the society.....
@@harmandeepkaur5725 I just told In a very long diatribe about why this tradition even came in the first place. Let me reiterate..
If you are implying that we are discriminating against women, please don't do that.
What I am saying though, is this issue is not discrimination. Please don't equate this to discrimination.
Discriminating would have been to not allow all women into the temple. Here the point is not allowing women of menstruating age. And there is a reason for that and it is not ,"Misogyny". The God in question has been celibate his whole life and the devotees which come to see him do very rigorous things for 41 days like, waking up very early in the winter morning, always using cold water for whatever cleaning and washing, not eating food cooked in the home , but eating good only made by fellow person who vowed to follow the same rules, only eating very early and after sunset, they don't touch any objects and clothing except for theirs and fellow devotees. Can you imagine leading this lifestyle for 41 days!!!?. And then they journey, treck with no footwear or upper body clothing, by the way all in winter months ,to have darshan of Ayyappa swamy. They do this , which to be fair feels like crazy and tough for normal people, in the belief that, it will give them spiritual clarity and make their lives and families lives better with the gods blessing. This is the belief which was present and as been propagated for centuries.
And the court run roughshod over these beliefs, which for them are sacred and held dear to heart, with extending and equating untouchability (Discrimination) to this practice. This is my point and of most enraged followers. I hope you understand.
And I won't say ," you not bring a Hindu, how can you comment about our religion"..... No I won't. What I am stating in this long diatribe of mine is to have some Perspective and understanding.
I hope you now have a view of why this whole thing has been hotbed for resentment and anger, and not discrimination.
Save women right ....not God rights ....!!!obey law of sc ...!!!what the he'll with Kerala protesters !!!let's see what happen if women enterance lord aiyappa will not run !!!molester ,rapist ,lier,murder can enter temple but not menstruating women ...!!!!what the morality lies ..!!!what constitution says
This is 800 year old temple in middle of Tiger forest. Before roads and infrastructure, people used to walk for months to reach the temple. Custom of restriction for young women was made for their safety. Technically you should not blame God. You should not change gods nature. Do, you think people will like if Ram has another wife or Mary is not virgin etc.
No one likes build up stories ....!!!!!God is for every one ....!!! :-) leave mythology ...be and think In rational way
@@vay765 I don't believe in mythology. This is very important temple, people who come here are very dedicated, they fast for 40 days, they keep their mind pure, they control their bad habits and emotions. No constitution or king can do such an event.
Finally India is land of great culture, where people celebrate holi and Diwali for fun, dussera for respecting elders, raksha bandhan for respecting sisters, Ganesh chaturthi for local gathering etc.
In the name of rights we can't destroy our culture.
Save sabarimala