Citroen Peugeot Stalk Repair
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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Got a faulty stalk? You can repair it for free quickly and easily, just do what I did! Fix that Comm 2000 unit!
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Thanks for the vid. I was trying to get the radio stalk off with no joy 🥴 Watched the vid and all sorted in 10 seconds 😎.
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Hey there! Awesome video for sure, helped me a lot with my 206!, than you a lot One question about the after replacement is that if your cancelling blinkers lights still work properly after the fix? Cheers
Thank you so much for fast reply! Main problem must be heat, we had a headwave last week with 46 degrees C and since then wipers went off. I'm afraid that used ones here in Cyprus will be same or even worst. Thanks again.
The stalks being loose(e.g. indicating left when you go over a bump) is caused by the spring unbending, if you re-bend them they will last years. clockspring cable is a real problem, as it's hard to get a replacement. (Horn and air bags)
Huh got the problem when indicating right and turn the wheels straight, it's indicating left. Going to try this. They asked 400€ for the entire module only (new part). Nope. Going DIY :) Hope it will be fixed, otherwise might have to get the part anyway haha.
Many years ago.. umm 27 years ago I worked for a UK company that made some of the early “all singing all dancing switches “ for Fords. No electronics at all just a load of connectors.. made some prototype bits.. that was fun! Don’t think I have the courage to mess with air-bags n steering wheel !!
Great imfo and vid. Im gona crack on and try to fix mine subject to my age shaking and poor eyesight permitting. Thank you.
Thanks , very helpful
Parabéns pela qualidade do vídeo, muito útil, decidi encomendar a manete dos piscas no aliexpress por 11€ e vou tentar trocar, é para um 307, na peugeot pedem 300 euros pelo conjunto 😲.
Conseguiste? No meu caso o problema é as luzes ligarem sozinhas, também era o teu problema? Ficou resolvido?
@@diogopaulico5643sim, é relativamente fácil trocar
Very good video, helped me out big time. Be careful when remoing the steering wheel as it can come off easy and you will break the wiring going to the comms 2000 unit, (like what i did)
That must have been really annoying!
The trick is to screw the centre bolt in half way, preventing it from shooting out. It also prevent a broken nose!
I got it, thank you very much!
Top a imagem ! Não entendi nada do inglês kkkkk mais me ajudou muito a saber como desmontar fazer a limpeza e montar . O meu EU fui consertar a buzina e curiosamente acabei abrindo a CHAVE de SETA . Porem , na hora de montar não conectei direito esses terminalzinho PLÁSTICO PRETO ( PISTA ) lado ESQUERDO q faz ALTO , BAIXO , RELAMPEJO . O meu não tava acendendo os faróis
Great imfo.
legendary stuff! we had this wack problem where the indicator would only flash 3 times, then the headlights would come on and the indicator would cease, but if the headlights were on at the time, it would just continue to indicate like normal..
the problem was just the indicator stalk itself, which my old man swapped out, but then failed to put the whole thing back together right.
the angles and tests you provided along the way were magnificent and exactly what i needed to put it back together properly myself, and it's now working!
What part do you mean by the indicator stalk ?
@@ElySky95 stalk is the whole stick hanging out the side, that u use to indicate
@@outseeker ok so the switch was broken inside?
@@ElySky95 there wasn't really any obvious damage, but it's pretty intricate actually and easily buggers up i think. like it doesn't take much wear and tear before the stalk starts sending wrong signals to the computer.
Thank you ..man
It was so helpful ...
I fixed my car by my self ..
+ABD AL- MAJEED RAMADAN That's wonderful to hear, glad it was helpful!
You can add cruise control but you have to program them in with diagbox . In the bsi the ecu and on the comms 2000 unit why your in there you can test the buttons
what about auto ligths off with key .... can be done ... ?
@@NikolaosPap im not sure to be honest. There's lots of things you can turn on or off etc in the bsi and make it do different things . It a must have tool .
Tq bro
At 13:38 you said you're not sure how the stalk itself comes apart. I'm currently having an issue with the headlight controls within the stalk itself being touchy and requiring some wiggling to gain contact at times. It's amazing that something so little can cause the car to be completely undrivable at night.
I don't suppose you've had any exeperience taking one apart off camera, or since then, that you could shed some light on?
For these plastic clips, use a bunch of toothpicks, easy way to take anything using clips apart
Hi, so the auto signal canceling acts up. Mine works on left to autocancel but on right, it jumps to left signal auto. How do i fix the auto signal cancel? Or recalibrate
I would try and clean out the switch gear at the base of the stalk with contact cleaner
Electrical contract cleaner is good from halfords or any of your parts motor factors..
Like you video i got same issue lol
Citroen cars are quite famous for having melting connectors issues, some the pins in the connectors are largely undersized for the current they handle. They overhead and completly mess the plastics around. It is the case on the ground pin for the tail lights on the C3.
+msylvain59 lucky enough now experienced too many electrical faults on ours. The worst random issues were because my wife dropped an entire bottle of water into the fuse box and ecu under the dash.
She never mentioned that fact, only said the car was doing random things!! Took a while to diagnose and even longer to revive the fuse box and wet ECU's to dry out.
Sounds like industrial sabotage ;)
...If it were orange juice it would DEFFO be sabotage!
msylvain59
Hey Andrew,
This video is excellent, shown me exactly what I need to do, but seeing as it's been a while since you posted this, hows the repair faired, still working?
Yes still working well, I'm sure one repair during the life of the vehicle would be enough.
Great video! my 206 got similar problems which when headlights on, indicators of both side won't work, i was wondering if that's contact failure or com2000 chips error……should i just change the whole light/swipe switchgear(which is not cheap and hard to purchase)?
Did you manage to fix this by any chance?
Belle vidéo.J'ai une Peugeot 206.Lors de la conduite, les voyants du tableau de bord s'éteignent et se rallument, les clignotants cessent parfois de fonctionner.Est-ce le problème avec com 2000?Merci.
Since blowing a Screenwasher fuse and replacing it, the wipers themselves are unaffected but I'm still not detecting any power delivery at the reservoir-pump. I'm swithering whether to replace (a) just the stalk-assembly in question or (b) the whole unit displayed for fear of burnt contacts in the latter. 'Very good demo', just the same.
Personally I would be looking for a whole unit. I suspect the switchgear is set up for digital logic levels of current so the main power switching will be done by the PCB in the assembly.
I have a Peugeot 807. How to take off the airbag and steering wheel?
Hi , thanks for sharing
Is a steering wheel angle sensor inside this?
It would be in the general area, bit usually located in the power steering unit
Hi there, I replaced my stalk on my peugeot but I got efp/asr light on dash now and steering angle sensor error. Do you have any Idea how to sort this out? Thank you
are you sure this issue isnt just occuring because the vehicle has automatic lights whereby the lights come on automatically when the sensor detects the light fading...which,when activated can cause the lights to turn on and off when say you are travelling in an area where there are trees overhead creating enough darkness to activate the lights ?
No. The switch was faulty.
Nice video, but there wasn't much about the wiper switch here, obviously.
I have a problem with my 308 peugeot that it washes it's rear window randomly. Most obvious fault would be in the switch itself as the program works flawlessly. Any idea where i should begin - if the trouble even is with the stalk unit?
actually, if you have any idea what the stalk contacts look like, and if they would be accessible without taking apart the whole unit / sprayable with contact spray from outside the stalk please educate me :)
They are thin little copper contacts that will have usually worn away or corroded. If you look on eBay you can sometimes find just the stalk on its own and retro fit that into the body. Make sure all the part numbers are the same.
What do you mean by washes? If your rear wiper comes on randomly, than you have wires broken in the goose neck of the rear hatch.
@@NotAnonymousNo80014 I mean, it starts the "washing program", starts to spray a bit of fluid and wipe after 2sec or so. I'll have to check those wires for shorts if it starts it next winter again.
Thanks for this but I think the message from it is not to, from a safety point of view, risk a repair . On a dark road I lost my lights due to this unit failing but it's always good to know how something is put together, thanks again.
I think if people are not competent to repair something they should indeed seek other options.
Did this fix your issue? My indicators wont stay on and sometimes the lights turn on if you knock the headlight turning thingi mo bob.
+Richard Howard It does, but it sounds like yours is past it's prime. Sometimes the ribbon contacts get so worn you cannot recover them. Fortunately you can just look on eBay for one that looks the same and you have a good chance of swapping out the stalk. Alternatively, look for a complete replacement unit that matches your part number
Thanks for the fast reply! I've already gone through one stalk kit from not disconnecting the airbag and been a little heavy with taking the wheel off and ripped the airbag ribbons. Not my proudest moment but you learn from your mistakes eh? :P
Ill give it a go and let you know how i get on. I only have problem when the headlights have been turned on and try indicate.
Rick
+Richard Howard aarghhh, be careful of the clock spring, those always cost more than you expect they should 😁
I have the same problem as you good buddy, the computer doesn't recognize the first two positions of that rotating switch. The "off" and "side lights" positions aren't recognized by the car. Diagbox says "invalid command", and since it doesn't "see" anything, it turns on the lights by itself if the switch is in those two positions. The normal beams position work fine though. AND it can switch between high and low. It just doesn't see the first two.
I didn't see you doing anything with that rotating switch, and you seem to have the same problem as me. 4 years later what's the picture in your case? Do you still have problems with that rotating switch?
I have the Peugeot 307 CAN version, mod. 2006, 1.6 litre 110HP, (NFU) engine. I'm about to open my switch so I thought to drop a line to see how are things in your case.
Thanks.
COM2000 have two manufacturers, DAV and Delphi. What malfunction exactly got unit from the video?
+Karol P poor light switch actuation
I think is Delphi
Hia, just had one replaced on a Peugeot Partner, everything works, lights, indicators, stereo control fog lamps , however the indicators are silent when flashing, both left & right. Could it be the Comm i replaced is faulty? Can it be fixed?
Do they still flash as expected?
this kind of repair, is it good also for citroen xara picasso 2.0 HDI 90cv?
Certainly
@@backofficeshow so the light lever is the same as that of the video with the flat cable? thank you
I'm pretty sure they use the same gear on many different models
The indicators on my Peugeot 307sw have a loose connection. Is cleaning them as shown in the video worth a try?
Couldn't hurt, maybe your will reseat something
Hi, a have issue with switch on my Citroen xsara Picasso 1.6 hdi 2005. When the light are off(engine on or key in start position) , the switch work right or left and horn,if a open the light then they won't work.1 year ago a find a used one and replace, works ok but now are the same issue.Now I open just fregio light and fog lights when a drive by day.
Was the replacement switch used? Maybe it has also worn
@@backofficeshow Was a used one (same model) from another Citroen xsara Picasso 1.6 hdi 2005 .For 1 year work very good and after that starts the issue.
Hey Andrew. Not sure if you’re still active. So my littlen was playing with the indicator stalk and now my day light leds are intermittent. Sometimes they’re on but then they turn to full lights.
So only resolution is to put full lights on. And they’re fine they don’t cut out.
But it’s a real pain. Could this just be dirty connections?
Thanks in advance
Could be dirty connections for sure. You could have a go at cleaning it with contact cleaner
Hi Chez, on what model car do you have daylight LEDs?
I’ve got a 2003 406 HDi and I’d like to get daylight LEDs fitted. But I first have to fix the left indicator coming on when the right indicator auto cancels!
Смазки надо было положить , легче б рычаги пересчелкивались, у меня такая же, но так и не понял почему правый поворот не возвращается назад , а левый работает отлично , но разобрал , помучаться пришлось чтоб защелкнуть и ничего там не нарушилось внутри
My wipers are working but no washer fluid from jets. washer pump has been tested all good and fuse. do you reckon its worth playing about with the wiper stalk inside the com unit even tho the wipers work?
Hope that make sense would really appreciate your feedback.
Thanks
I realise this might be four months too late but if the very small plastic pin has sheared off the sliding contact inside the unit that operates the wiper stalk then it will indeed stop the washers from working. Mine was the same but I replaced it with a small piece of wire bent into an l shape and glued into place
@@robertlewis3778 Cheers bud, I no longer have the van but will bare that in mind in future. 👍🏾
@@-UmarKhan ok no probs, I was only 4 months late after all 😂
I'm sure someone will be saved reading your message 😂
😆 better late than never, Somebody for sure will benefit from this thread
I followed this vid to take apart the comms unit and replace the indicator stalk, it's resolved all my electrical bugs, however, indicator won't self cancel on left turn now. I've had the comms unit open again since, but no joy. Does anyone know what component controls the self cancel?! I just need to know what plastic lug etc. I'm looking for!? Thanks all
Looks like a simple mechanical issue good buddy.
The self canceling mechanism is visible in this video. It's just a piece of plastic that protruds into the path of the steering wheel column. In your case, it must have moved somehow and doesn't sit properly, or it might have broken.
However..... the self canceling function is sometimes unwanted. I have the C5 (X7) that uses similar switches, and I can tell you, I'm seriously thinking of opening my stalk and removing that little plastic part, to disable that self canceling function. I'm so used to using my signals properly, AND putting them back, that it realy anoys me to turn the signal switch and it returns back when I don't want it to.
What I'm getting at is that you realy don't need that self canceling function if you're used to using the signals normaly. And realy, how many cars have you seen on the highway with their blinkers on, and staying on the same lane? ... exactly. No use for the self canceling function there.
You can take your pick, but I'm pretty sure it's a simple mechanical issue.
Good day.
At 5:07 he is touching the part responsible for the self cancel.
Hi, does this resemble how to do it on a peugeot 308?
If it looks the same, then yes, same suppliers
bonjour monsieur ma voiture pejo 307 eirbeg s'allume et le klaxon ne sonne pas pouvez vous m'aider
Witch one is the signal relay?
AFAIK no relays in the COMM, those are in the BSI (cabin fuse box) or the engine bay fusebox.
My wipers stopped working, the mechanic told me that the control stalk needs replacement, do you think that i could easily fix this by myself?
Realistically if it's worn out or broken, I would be looking from a replacement from a scrap yard than trying to fix it
hi, what cleaner have you been used?
WD40 contact cleaner is pretty good. And I hear Deoxit is best
I work on the same panel, the loudspeaker is in the other place. How do the two switching devices differ? 96511 201 XT (google translator, sry!)
+Endrew Haracsi I know they were made by different manufacturers, Delphi, Valeo, DAV so perhaps that is why they are different. The basic functionality should remain.
Did this work after the repair?
Yes
Good luck with that mine was a disaster 😢
That "repair" doesn't fix the issue. Green indicator tape need to be replaced.
fart at 2.35??
+Robbie Fottrell more than likely 😂💪💥
Easier just get a used unit from scrap car yards?
Depends if you have one near Vs spending 15 minutes and possibly fixing it for free. Either way, you are pulling the unit.
its god damn dangerous, driving at night in country and your lights go out, these should be condemned cars safety recall?
:)
bonjour monsieur ma voiture pejo 307 eirbeg s'allume et le klaxon ne sonne pas pouvez vous m'aider