Spanking was and never is ok. There are SO many ways to teach your child discipline without making them scared of you. People are not teaching them discipline. They are teaching them that if they miss behave they will be abused and beat It is not out of respecting its out of fear I am not very old myself but both of my parents raised me using gentle parenting I have respect and love them more then most of my friends
@@jakubpuchalski2583 Well.... If you are to compare the snowflake 'hurt because of a pronome' generation we have today raised in this 'beating your children is bad' culture... I'd have to disagree. One thing is to spank a child because words are not working anymore the other is beating a child to destress your anger on them. As a childless person I can't say my opinion really counts on anything
@@no-xu5zu well yeah bc no matter what they did they have basic rights. If as and adult you cant beat other adults, if a jugde cant sentence you to a beating bc its VERY illegal why should you be allowed to do this to child? If they bully someone they deserve punishment but not like that.
I find it unnecessary, I might not respect this opinion; however this could make the child normalizing this in the future. Furthering their actions on their offsprings.
Fun fact: america is the only developed country that didnt sign the convention on childrens rights which bans any form physical punishment which is considered torture. I cant belive that spanking is still a debate in the us. If Your boss cant beat you if you mess up, a judge cant sentence you to a beating, spanking your child shouldnt be allowed. Its that simple
@@ianesgrecia8568 And to believe your generation was "better", is genuine stupidity, maybe problems didn't exist for you because your white and privileged but your generation isn't any better than our current generation. Although gen z started from 1997 to 2012, which most likely includes you
My parents weren't 'free range parents' but they weren't very involved in raising me. We lived out in the country and me and my brother would be out doing what we wanted all day with no supervision from the time we were 6 and 8 years old. We knew to be home by the time the sun was setting and that was our only rule really. We also did have to check in at home or at our grandma's house in the middle of the day since she lived about half a mile from our house and often we'd go even farther than that so we checked in wherever was closer. I will note I am not advocating for this, there are many terrible things that happened as a result of my parents being uninvolved like me being sexually abused and injured many times. My parents taught me to basically do what they didn't.
I think the thing people glossed over the most with all of these is that...more than anything even if your kid doesn't turn out to be abusive or violent they can turn into a victim. Every relationship they form afterwards from experience with their main caretakers (people who are supposed to respect, love and care for them with healthy boundaries) if they learned that setting boundaries was not respected, if they learned that love was earned through material things and words/acts of love were non-existent etc. They'll pass those habits on and allow people to walk all over them, allow people to abuse them verbally etc. Even with the difference between spanking and abuse, a kid will not interpret it the same way as an adult does so I still don't agree with being reactive but rather proactive.
I don’t have children personally but I used to work with children from different ages. I had this 4 year old little girl once and she was a handful 😂 she would throw tantrums hit the other children scream etc. and her mother would get upset with us (the workers) if we put her in time out or told her in a stern voice “no” the mother was pregnant with a second child at the time and I wonder to this day how that went since I think the child got treated like a princess at home. I don’t agree with spanking when I was a child I was popped on my legs etc..but it wasn’t like I was. Body slammed to the ground or anything if I had a kid would I hit it? Of course not I was looking into montessori which I really like their methods from what I’ve seen so far.
TL;DR, I am fully against full free range (those poor teachers), but as long as a kid is kept in line (or at least not acting like actual crotch goblins), I veer towards the more gentler approach. My upbringing was.... unique. My mom DID sign a waiver to allow it, but my principal had a genuine leather strap on his shelf, and from personal experience, he didn't have problems using it. In all fairness, he didn't go to town on us, though. He started at low numbers and then worked his way up (yes, he had us count) on repeated offenses. Other punishments he resorted to when he felt spats, as they were were called, included class wide punishment drills (Nam War Vet), and standing on his wall for hours (for repeated missed homework), and Super Max Detention (in the event previous night's missed homework, work missed while stand on said wall for hours, and that night's homework were not completed to 100% accuracy) , which included less strenuous but just as tedious drills. I swear, i spent the better part of two years as an office decoration. My mom on the other hand, did wear my butt out. If not that i was given a stern talking to, interspersed with several "and another thing"s. Both were equally unpleasant.
Spanking is okay. I think it comes from intention. You should not spank your child and feel a sigh of relief. That is a beating 😂😂😂 I thank God I have a mild manner child (nothing like me as a child) so I can remember the last spanking he got. He is 10 now and he was 3 then and ran out in the street after being told not too. He purposely threw the ball in the street to get it 😂😂😂 it’s kinda of funny now. But my intention was to ensure he knew how dangerous it was and to respect what I say because it is for his safety. Afterwards we had a great talk and that was It. I don’t get the over and over spankings. Like my mom did.
Personally, I think it depends. I know people who said that they aren't afraid of the consequences of their actions, their more afraid of what their parents will do to then when they find out.
Who here remembered first watched the Black-ish spanking episode? I think I can learn from how being strict a parent can be, especially when your parents used to spank with the belt or the sandal (aka La Chancleta in the Latin communtiy). EDIT: I'm Latino btw
Spanking is illegal where i live so its always weird when American people bring it up so casually. My Dad hit me one time when i couldnt figure out a math question and got screamed at by my Mum when i told her.
I don't care for spanking. I was sexually trafficked as a child and experienced domestic violence. I experienced violence that was used to correct behaviors as well as violence that was purposeless and sadistic. Violence that was used on me to correct my bad behaviors was much more severe than spanking; it's not really appropriate to get into here lol, it would bum people out. At the end of the day, I think that the milder forms of physical violence are still evil, especially when used on children like spanking, and it is in the same gradient as being tortured in a CP ring to punish you. I get that they are drastically different in severity, and I don't look down on parents who are just trying to correct their kid's behavior and care about their emotional well being (clearly, my family and the ring did not care about my emotional well being,) but I can't help but think there are better ways to do it and I think violence, even well-intentioned, leaves psychological marks. I don't necessarily think someone who spanks is evil, but ONLY if they love their children and just don't know a better way to teach them correct behavior; I still am really uncomfortable with it though.
Exactlyyy that too. Some methods just don't work..it really depends on the child because lemme tell you...At school...that was the first thing those teachers would wanna do...get a bamboo and FLOG. not beat...not spank...FLOG. ...WHIPPP. And some kids be smiling through that ish. Tolerance for pain is a real thing people...and if you realize that you gotta spank a child for one thing ...constantly? you gotta try something else boo.
The definitions aren't far off, but here they are. Spanking: an act of slapping, especially on the buttocks as a punishment for a child. Beat: Strike (Person or Animal) repeatedley and violently so as to hurt or injure, typically with an implement (aka Club or whip). Spanking is on th bottom and is for punishment used as a reminder to do the right thing next time. Beating on the other hand is wrong. You shouldn't be looking to violently hurt or injure your child. AyeChristine, I apologize if this stirs up any drama in your comments, but I thought the definitions and intentions should be clear 🤗. I really enjoy your vids.
My parents will beat my siblings when they are angry but it has gotten bad until we have injured also for me when I was younger I hit my sisters if they hit me or say something bad that I don't like and my father use the word bullying because I'm older and strong but I don't like that he called me that.
Ok...I am super late with this comment but I'm usually on the games channel so I'm now seeing this video. Lol...Firstly, I wanna say that...Christene...I loved all of your input. Honestly, I think it was really intelligent, what you were saying and all your opinions on each part of this video. Secondly, I was spanked as a kid..I lived with my mom and she would spank me...I think out of anger for what I was doing. And for the most part...not all of it but for the most part, I've learned that unless I wanna be spanked again for whatever it was...that I probably shouldn't do it and I feel like that is the goal that parents who spank their kids with the 'right intention' go for. And yes...I have heard people say that they were thankful for the spankings as odd as that sounds...I've heard it before. But at the same time, it's not the punishment you want to use for every child. It's not the punishment you want to resort to immediately because my cousin was spanked as well by his father...and lol..if you ask me...he's still extremely 'wayward'. My mom would mix it up...she wouldn't always spank me...she would take away certain privileges and in the end...I think that hurts more...than essentially spanking..because yes you would cry yourself to sleep because it's painful but...and this is just for normal spanking...by the time you wake up, you're over it. Whereas taking away privileges for e.g games or activities like going outside..or taking any thing that a child really um treasures..it hits harder.
The idea that an adult hitting another adult is assault but it’s perfectly ok to hit your child is backwards to me. All it does is teach the child that they do not have a fundamental right to not be the target of violence. Hitting your kids when you’re upset with them only teaches them that it is ok to act out violently when they’re upset.
Spanking is okay. I think it comes from intention. You should not spank your child and feel a sigh of relief. That is a beating 😂😂😂 I thank God I have a mild manner child (nothing like me as a child) so I can remember the last spanking he got. He is 10 now and he was 3 then and ran out in the street after being told not too. He purposely threw the ball in the street to get it 😂😂😂 it’s kinda of funny now. But my intention was to ensure he knew how dangerous it was and to respect what I say because it is for his safety. Afterwards we had a great talk and that was It. I don’t get the over and over spankings. Like my mom did.
Spanking was and never is ok. There are SO many ways to teach your child discipline without making them scared of you.
People are not teaching them discipline. They are teaching them that if they miss behave they will be abused and beat
It is not out of respecting its out of fear
I am not very old myself but both of my parents raised me using gentle parenting
I have respect and love them more then most of my friends
EXACTLY!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
In my opinion, I don't think beating or spanking is NEVER okay unless your child is physically hurting other people on purpose.
Even if theyre hurting other ppl its not okau
@@jakubpuchalski2583 so if your kid is bullying a child you're not gonna hit them? they deserve it honestly.
@@jakubpuchalski2583 Well.... If you are to compare the snowflake 'hurt because of a pronome' generation we have today raised in this 'beating your children is bad' culture... I'd have to disagree. One thing is to spank a child because words are not working anymore the other is beating a child to destress your anger on them.
As a childless person I can't say my opinion really counts on anything
@@no-xu5zu well yeah bc no matter what they did they have basic rights. If as and adult you cant beat other adults, if a jugde cant sentence you to a beating bc its VERY illegal why should you be allowed to do this to child? If they bully someone they deserve punishment but not like that.
I find it unnecessary, I might not respect this opinion; however this could make the child normalizing this in the future. Furthering their actions on their offsprings.
Fun fact: america is the only developed country that didnt sign the convention on childrens rights which bans any form physical punishment which is considered torture. I cant belive that spanking is still a debate in the us. If Your boss cant beat you if you mess up, a judge cant sentence you to a beating, spanking your child shouldnt be allowed. Its that simple
@@sirens4562 thank you
And thats why we have this snowflake 'wrong pronoms hurt me' generation. Congratlations.
@@ianesgrecia8568 still better than the "casual queerphobia is cool" generation
@@ianesgrecia8568 And to believe your generation was "better", is genuine stupidity, maybe problems didn't exist for you because your white and privileged but your generation isn't any better than our current generation. Although gen z started from 1997 to 2012, which most likely includes you
@@ianesgrecia8568 Did you like your own comnent-
My parents weren't 'free range parents' but they weren't very involved in raising me. We lived out in the country and me and my brother would be out doing what we wanted all day with no supervision from the time we were 6 and 8 years old. We knew to be home by the time the sun was setting and that was our only rule really. We also did have to check in at home or at our grandma's house in the middle of the day since she lived about half a mile from our house and often we'd go even farther than that so we checked in wherever was closer.
I will note I am not advocating for this, there are many terrible things that happened as a result of my parents being uninvolved like me being sexually abused and injured many times. My parents taught me to basically do what they didn't.
I think the thing people glossed over the most with all of these is that...more than anything even if your kid doesn't turn out to be abusive or violent they can turn into a victim. Every relationship they form afterwards from experience with their main caretakers (people who are supposed to respect, love and care for them with healthy boundaries) if they learned that setting boundaries was not respected, if they learned that love was earned through material things and words/acts of love were non-existent etc. They'll pass those habits on and allow people to walk all over them, allow people to abuse them verbally etc. Even with the difference between spanking and abuse, a kid will not interpret it the same way as an adult does so I still don't agree with being reactive but rather proactive.
I don’t have children personally but I used to work with children from different ages. I had this 4 year old little girl once and she was a handful 😂 she would throw tantrums hit the other children scream etc. and her mother would get upset with us (the workers) if we put her in time out or told her in a stern voice “no” the mother was pregnant with a second child at the time and I wonder to this day how that went since I think the child got treated like a princess at home. I don’t agree with spanking when I was a child I was popped on my legs etc..but it wasn’t like I was. Body slammed to the ground or anything if I had a kid would I hit it? Of course not I was looking into montessori which I really like their methods from what I’ve seen so far.
TL;DR, I am fully against full free range (those poor teachers), but as long as a kid is kept in line (or at least not acting like actual crotch goblins), I veer towards the more gentler approach.
My upbringing was.... unique.
My mom DID sign a waiver to allow it, but my principal had a genuine leather strap on his shelf, and from personal experience, he didn't have problems using it. In all fairness, he didn't go to town on us, though. He started at low numbers and then worked his way up (yes, he had us count) on repeated offenses.
Other punishments he resorted to when he felt spats, as they were were called, included class wide punishment drills (Nam War Vet), and standing on his wall for hours (for repeated missed homework), and Super Max Detention (in the event previous night's missed homework, work missed while stand on said wall for hours, and that night's homework were not completed to 100% accuracy) , which included less strenuous but just as tedious drills. I swear, i spent the better part of two years as an office decoration.
My mom on the other hand, did wear my butt out. If not that i was given a stern talking to, interspersed with several "and another thing"s. Both were equally unpleasant.
Spanking is okay. I think it comes from intention. You should not spank your child and feel a sigh of relief. That is a beating 😂😂😂 I thank God I have a mild manner child (nothing like me as a child) so I can remember the last spanking he got. He is 10 now and he was 3 then and ran out in the street after being told not too. He purposely threw the ball in the street to get it 😂😂😂 it’s kinda of funny now. But my intention was to ensure he knew how dangerous it was and to respect what I say because it is for his safety. Afterwards we had a great talk and that was It. I don’t get the over and over spankings. Like my mom did.
Laughing emojis and beating shouldn't be in the same sentence tbh-
Personally, I think it depends. I know people who said that they aren't afraid of the consequences of their actions, their more afraid of what their parents will do to then when they find out.
@@galacticquasaur2956 so when you write your sentence. Please ensure not to use emojis.
@@galacticquasaur2956 because it’s a difference between respect and fear.
Who here remembered first watched the Black-ish spanking episode? I think I can learn from how being strict a parent can be, especially when your parents used to spank with the belt or the sandal (aka La Chancleta in the Latin communtiy).
EDIT: I'm Latino btw
I feel your pain...
My single mother is very similar to the biblical man (not in a bad way)
Spanking is illegal where i live so its always weird when American people bring it up so casually. My Dad hit me one time when i couldnt figure out a math question and got screamed at by my Mum when i told her.
I feel like if I ever become a parent I'd be very much in the middle
I almost choked when he said it was the best.
There is a reason in nature that birds get ready to leave the nest. Raise your kids, but allow them the room to grow their wings.
I don't care for spanking. I was sexually trafficked as a child and experienced domestic violence. I experienced violence that was used to correct behaviors as well as violence that was purposeless and sadistic. Violence that was used on me to correct my bad behaviors was much more severe than spanking; it's not really appropriate to get into here lol, it would bum people out. At the end of the day, I think that the milder forms of physical violence are still evil, especially when used on children like spanking, and it is in the same gradient as being tortured in a CP ring to punish you. I get that they are drastically different in severity, and I don't look down on parents who are just trying to correct their kid's behavior and care about their emotional well being (clearly, my family and the ring did not care about my emotional well being,) but I can't help but think there are better ways to do it and I think violence, even well-intentioned, leaves psychological marks. I don't necessarily think someone who spanks is evil, but ONLY if they love their children and just don't know a better way to teach them correct behavior; I still am really uncomfortable with it though.
Exactlyyy that too. Some methods just don't work..it really depends on the child because lemme tell you...At school...that was the first thing those teachers would wanna do...get a bamboo and FLOG. not beat...not spank...FLOG. ...WHIPPP. And some kids be smiling through that ish. Tolerance for pain is a real thing people...and if you realize that you gotta spank a child for one thing ...constantly? you gotta try something else boo.
The definitions aren't far off, but here they are.
Spanking: an act of slapping, especially on the buttocks as a punishment for a child.
Beat: Strike (Person or Animal) repeatedley and violently so as to hurt or injure, typically with an implement (aka Club or whip).
Spanking is on th bottom and is for punishment used as a reminder to do the right thing next time.
Beating on the other hand is wrong. You shouldn't be looking to violently hurt or injure your child.
AyeChristine, I apologize if this stirs up any drama in your comments, but I thought the definitions and intentions should be clear 🤗. I really enjoy your vids.
If some of these people saw the parenting in the South of both races people would think it’s abuse
My parents will beat my siblings when they are angry but it has gotten bad until we have injured also for me when I was younger I hit my sisters if they hit me or say something bad that I don't like and my father use the word bullying because I'm older and strong but I don't like that he called me that.
Well you shouldnt hit your siblings
Ok...I am super late with this comment but I'm usually on the games channel so I'm now seeing this video. Lol...Firstly, I wanna say that...Christene...I loved all of your input. Honestly, I think it was really intelligent, what you were saying and all your opinions on each part of this video.
Secondly, I was spanked as a kid..I lived with my mom and she would spank me...I think out of anger for what I was doing. And for the most part...not all of it but for the most part, I've learned that unless I wanna be spanked again for whatever it was...that I probably shouldn't do it and I feel like that is the goal that parents who spank their kids with the 'right intention' go for. And yes...I have heard people say that they were thankful for the spankings as odd as that sounds...I've heard it before. But at the same time, it's not the punishment you want to use for every child. It's not the punishment you want to resort to immediately because my cousin was spanked as well by his father...and lol..if you ask me...he's still extremely 'wayward'. My mom would mix it up...she wouldn't always spank me...she would take away certain privileges and in the end...I think that hurts more...than essentially spanking..because yes you would cry yourself to sleep because it's painful but...and this is just for normal spanking...by the time you wake up, you're over it. Whereas taking away privileges for e.g games or activities like going outside..or taking any thing that a child really um treasures..it hits harder.
The idea that an adult hitting another adult is assault but it’s perfectly ok to hit your child is backwards to me. All it does is teach the child that they do not have a fundamental right to not be the target of violence. Hitting your kids when you’re upset with them only teaches them that it is ok to act out violently when they’re upset.
spanking has never been/ ever will be okay I’m so grateful I grew up w I guess “free range” type parents lol
You think that’s a lot of kids??? My music teacher HAS 14
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Spanking is okay. I think it comes from intention. You should not spank your child and feel a sigh of relief. That is a beating 😂😂😂 I thank God I have a mild manner child (nothing like me as a child) so I can remember the last spanking he got. He is 10 now and he was 3 then and ran out in the street after being told not too. He purposely threw the ball in the street to get it 😂😂😂 it’s kinda of funny now. But my intention was to ensure he knew how dangerous it was and to respect what I say because it is for his safety. Afterwards we had a great talk and that was It. I don’t get the over and over spankings. Like my mom did.