Grayhawk always felt like the perfect setting for DMs to build their own homebrew into. It felt a bit more grounded, unlike the wildly kitchen sink approach of Forgotten Realms.
I loved Greyhawk as a kid / 1e player. When I picked up 5e a few years back I really disliked Forgotten Realms. Having run campaigns in FR though I have come to love it. It will be interesting to read about Greyhawk again. Always thought it had an awesome map courtesy of Darlene!
That’s why he specifies that is the first *official* D&D setting. Agreed that Blackmoor (and Arneson’s contributions to the game as a whole) should get more love tho
Why don’t they do something with Dragonlance for a change? They’ve literally remodeled and revamped every other campaign setting in the entirety of d&d except for the forgotten dragonlance setting that they haven’t done anything with in over 40 years and was one of their most popular settings.
This might be the reason I buy the DMG. I knew about the deities from 3.5 which most were Greyhawk ones. Hopefully they skip the Realms for 5.5 and focus more on Greyhawk and other settings that haven't seen much focus.
They won't, FR is the default world since 2e and every time they try to move from it a very vocal Realms fan-base throws a fit. But, using Greyhawk as their introduction and example world works for me. There is so much Greyhawk information from 1e that is still quite usable with 5e that I'm okay with them just using it in this way.
@@edheldude I guess, I haven't really gotten into 3e since it was like the "Marvel Superheroes" edition, everyone was basically a god. Didn't really fit our table much.
why do you have to choose? let us choose. bring all settings with good actual maps, lore and backgrounds in one book. greyhawk, faerun, dark sun, forgotten realms, dragonlance, al-qadim, birthright and mystara.
Dark Sun and Al-Qadim are never coming back because nobody wants to open those cans of worms, Birthright wasn't even popular when it was new, Faerûn is the same thing as FR, Dragonlance already got a token release, and the Mystara community has been supporting and expanding it officially on the Vaults of Pandius website with WOTC's blessings for over 20 years now and both parties are quite happy with the current arrangement.
Just to expand on the situation with Mystara, all of the work expanding and updating Mystara has been done by the community, so WOTC wouldn't be able to use it. So, to release Mystara as an official setting again would require resetting over 20 years of hard work by the community. Nobody wants that to happen, VoP has been a solid caretaker of the setting for far longer that TSR & WOTC ever were and WOTC has long recognized that.
@@Vilferso then they should make a “campaign settings” book. Make it a 4th core book and then you’re good. But we all know it’s so they can reintroduce it later when fans inevitably cry for new Faerûn content. It’ll take a good fees years but just watch, it’ll happen.
99% of the 2024 rules are free on D&D Beyond, I fail to see the problem. I have all the 2014 books but I am loving the new rulebooks so far. the PHB is such a massive improvement (except the removal of nearly all wizard and cleric sub-classes).
@arcanescroll I love D&D. Have been playing it since the early 80s. The "problem" as I see it is the turn about from the player being the most important to the corporate bottom line being the most important. How much money have you spent on the new books (that you could have free access to otherwise online) How many different ways can you pack the same monsters into a monstrous manual?
I love how he cites the same character (Tasha/Iggwilv) as an example of heroes and villains respectively.
Grayhawk always felt like the perfect setting for DMs to build their own homebrew into. It felt a bit more grounded, unlike the wildly kitchen sink approach of Forgotten Realms.
Yeah, the world building for that one is all over the place, let's see creator races, dragons/giants, mind flayers it gets a little hectic
I loved Greyhawk as a kid / 1e player. When I picked up 5e a few years back I really disliked Forgotten Realms. Having run campaigns in FR though I have come to love it. It will be interesting to read about Greyhawk again. Always thought it had an awesome map courtesy of Darlene!
Heroes like Tasha and enemies like Iggwilv...
For those who don't know, they are two names for the same person.
“Heroes like… Tasha.” “Villains like… Iggwilv.” They’re the same person. 😂
The only 5e campaign book I can find that has info on Greyhawk is: Ghosts of Saltmarsh.
Technically, Tomb of Annihilation (and by extensión, TotYP) and Princess of Apocalypse happen in Greyhawk
Blackmoor: am i a joke to you?
That’s why he specifies that is the first *official* D&D setting. Agreed that Blackmoor (and Arneson’s contributions to the game as a whole) should get more love tho
Yes.
Its always been Greyhawk for me.
Why don’t they do something with Dragonlance for a change? They’ve literally remodeled and revamped every other campaign setting in the entirety of d&d except for the forgotten dragonlance setting that they haven’t done anything with in over 40 years and was one of their most popular settings.
Why does Nyr Dyw look like Switzerland?
didn't 4e dmg have a campaign setting?
4e had Points of Light, which you wouldn't really call a "complete" campaign setting.
It's 10 pages of a glimpse haha
4e had the concepts of a setting.
This might be the reason I buy the DMG. I knew about the deities from 3.5 which most were Greyhawk ones. Hopefully they skip the Realms for 5.5 and focus more on Greyhawk and other settings that haven't seen much focus.
They won't, FR is the default world since 2e and every time they try to move from it a very vocal Realms fan-base throws a fit. But, using Greyhawk as their introduction and example world works for me. There is so much Greyhawk information from 1e that is still quite usable with 5e that I'm okay with them just using it in this way.
@@arcanescroll Greyhawk was still the focus in 3e. Forgotten Realms just sells massively better so they're serving their fans.
@@edheldude I guess, I haven't really gotten into 3e since it was like the "Marvel Superheroes" edition, everyone was basically a god. Didn't really fit our table much.
🤯 YAY! Greyhawk!
This is incredible. I love chris perkins so much
why do you have to choose? let us choose. bring all settings with good actual maps, lore and backgrounds in one book. greyhawk, faerun, dark sun, forgotten realms, dragonlance, al-qadim, birthright and mystara.
Dark Sun and Al-Qadim are never coming back because nobody wants to open those cans of worms, Birthright wasn't even popular when it was new, Faerûn is the same thing as FR, Dragonlance already got a token release, and the Mystara community has been supporting and expanding it officially on the Vaults of Pandius website with WOTC's blessings for over 20 years now and both parties are quite happy with the current arrangement.
Just to expand on the situation with Mystara, all of the work expanding and updating Mystara has been done by the community, so WOTC wouldn't be able to use it. So, to release Mystara as an official setting again would require resetting over 20 years of hard work by the community. Nobody wants that to happen, VoP has been a solid caretaker of the setting for far longer that TSR & WOTC ever were and WOTC has long recognized that.
> why do you have to choose?
Page space.
@@Vilferso then they should make a “campaign settings” book. Make it a 4th core book and then you’re good. But we all know it’s so they can reintroduce it later when fans inevitably cry for new Faerûn content. It’ll take a good fees years but just watch, it’ll happen.
50th anniversary so let's repack all the previous materials and change some rules so people have to repurchase everything.
I don't see anyone forcing you.
Oh, no... it's a trap! How so I don't even know this before buy the 3 books? D: C'mon dude... grow up
Surprisingly there are people who are new to D&D. You can play what you wanna play. The old editions are available for free.
99% of the 2024 rules are free on D&D Beyond, I fail to see the problem. I have all the 2014 books but I am loving the new rulebooks so far. the PHB is such a massive improvement (except the removal of nearly all wizard and cleric sub-classes).
@arcanescroll I love D&D. Have been playing it since the early 80s. The "problem" as I see it is the turn about from the player being the most important to the corporate bottom line being the most important. How much money have you spent on the new books (that you could have free access to otherwise online) How many different ways can you pack the same monsters into a monstrous manual?
LET’S F#