Awesome video, I've been using the Dehancer and Cinema Grade. Cinema Grade being my favourite so far. But I do find that Dehancer can match my Drone, Canon and Sony cameras better. I normally use Phantom SLOG 3 lut Vision Teal with Kodak 2383 to get a teal and Orange thing going on. Of course Phantom Eastman RM also is a good teal and orange base. The Kodak 2383 is teal and orange too, so overall it gives slight teal and orange vibes that I can boost with HSL. Fuji 5315 is also a good Print Film Emulation that is vintage and teal and orange, likely just as classic as 2383. I guess my learning curve is what film and print film was used for what to achieve my desired look. It seems you could go down the rabbit hole trying to find answer and trial and error seems to give you good unexpected results but not all film and print film are a good match.
Usually phones record in either Rec. 709 or Rec. 2020 (iphone HDR, I would turn this off personally). Just use Rec. 709 as your input Color Space and Gamma in the first CST to Arri LogC and turn off the denoise/blur/grain nodes. This should keep your footage from looking splotchy.
FilmUnlimited looks amazing in your video! Any tips how to use it for Slog3? I shoot with Sony ZV-E1, but whenever I apply a FilmUnlimited 250D powergrade my footage looks extremely yellowish. In the node 'LogC to Lin' I have sony s-gamut3.cine and Slog3 with output gamma Linear, and in node 'Lin to LogC' I have input gamma Linear and output gamma ARRI Log C3. Any idea what I should correct?
Thank you for uploading this video, but I have a question why the output of your CST settings on Cineprint16 is in ARRI Wide Gamut 3 and ARRI LogC3? and also I have a DJI Osmo Pocket 3 can I use Cineprint succesfully? Great video!
You can definitely use it! If you record in D-Log m then you will have to do some very specific CST nodes. If you record the standard profile, just use Rec. 709 as your Input Color Space/Gamma in the first CST node.
I would suggest grading on the Iphone 13 pro's prores footage. Blackmagic camera is your friend. you can use any of the options, but Dehancer is the best for 8bit and iphone
@@chromiqa no dude, I use it in almost all my grades. It had wonderful look creation. In this comparison though, it falls shorter than the other custom built tools. Try ektachrome or Fuji velvia 50 (trust me)
Watch an in depth video on how to properly setup and use Dehancer, and how each section of dehancer affects the image differently. I.e adjusting exposure, white balance, and contrast in the camera profile section affect the image very differently than adjusting them in the print tab (print tab is better for film emulation imo) and it can be important to add color depth / saturation in Dehancer as the standard presets can be very desaturated. Also be sure that DaVinci understands what camera you’re shooting on so all of your color tools are mapped properly to your log files, so you can use the LOG wheels in DaVinci to move your hues around. Search up a video on how to work in a color managed project in DaVinci, and with all of that set up you won’t be disappointed at all, it’s a phenomenal tool and you can definitely get some amazing film emulation using it.
Not all heroes wear capes, some just have 4 film emulation in their possession!
you're too kind :)
That’s facts 😂😂
I’ve been using a new node tree recently. It uses the phantom Luts as a base, with Dehancer on top for the final grade! Been loving it!
Can you explain that process and are you using log footage?
You gotta do an updated video with the new CinePrint35 release! It supports Apple Log and looks really good
The best so far, Tom is really a GOAT
@@timothyclark5900 I’m tryingggg. He needs to message me back
Was looking for a video like this!
Awesome! Thanks :)
Same here
Yeah helped a lot! Thanks
Awesome video, I've been using the Dehancer and Cinema Grade. Cinema Grade being my favourite so far. But I do find that Dehancer can match my Drone, Canon and Sony cameras better. I normally use Phantom SLOG 3 lut Vision Teal with Kodak 2383 to get a teal and Orange thing going on. Of course Phantom Eastman RM also is a good teal and orange base. The Kodak 2383 is teal and orange too, so overall it gives slight teal and orange vibes that I can boost with HSL. Fuji 5315 is also a good Print Film Emulation that is vintage and teal and orange, likely just as classic as 2383. I guess my learning curve is what film and print film was used for what to achieve my desired look. It seems you could go down the rabbit hole trying to find answer and trial and error seems to give you good unexpected results but not all film and print film are a good match.
Love it. I will have a few more questions to ask. I will definitely come back. You have provided a insightful info here. Thanks alot!
Yes please do come back if you have any questions! Happy to help
Thank you, helped me make my decision on which to purchase 🙏🏼
Cineprint16 looks great!
Hey man! Dope video! Mind me asking how you utilize Cineprint16 on your phone?
Usually phones record in either Rec. 709 or Rec. 2020 (iphone HDR, I would turn this off personally).
Just use Rec. 709 as your input Color Space and Gamma in the first CST to Arri LogC and turn off the denoise/blur/grain nodes. This should keep your footage from looking splotchy.
FilmUnlimited looks amazing in your video! Any tips how to use it for Slog3? I shoot with Sony ZV-E1, but whenever I apply a FilmUnlimited 250D powergrade my footage looks extremely yellowish. In the node 'LogC to Lin' I have sony s-gamut3.cine and Slog3 with output gamma Linear, and in node 'Lin to LogC' I have input gamma Linear and output gamma ARRI Log C3. Any idea what I should correct?
@@nicoD9142 you should convert your SLOG3 to LOGC3 in a CST before the entire grade
its really helpful, thank you, could you make a video about best settings for Lumix s5 camera, pls
Thoughts on film box?
The best is cineprint35
Thank you for uploading this video, but I have a question why the output of your CST settings on Cineprint16 is in ARRI Wide Gamut 3 and ARRI LogC3? and also I have a DJI Osmo Pocket 3 can I use Cineprint succesfully? Great video!
You can definitely use it! If you record in D-Log m then you will have to do some very specific CST nodes. If you record the standard profile, just use Rec. 709 as your Input Color Space/Gamma in the first CST node.
You mention that you're comparing the print film emulation -- are you not also looking at the negative emulation too?
Great video, but the shot you chose was not the best for a comparison. Skin tones would have been nice to see.
I have an 8 bit camera and iPhone 13 Pro. What beginner thing should I start with? Phantom luts? Does this come with the grain, halation?
I would suggest grading on the Iphone 13 pro's prores footage. Blackmagic camera is your friend.
you can use any of the options, but Dehancer is the best for 8bit and iphone
Thanks tor this 🙏 can you add cineprint35 to this? For some reason i cant make 35 look as good as 16
Awesome and helpful video!
Nice work🎉
Tytytyty
Wouldn't use any of these but rather do it myself and/or including high quality luts (which eliminates phantom luts)
awesome vid, what a bloody great insight on all of them!
thank u bro
great video!
@@Microck thanks so much!
Can I do this on Premiere Pro? 😮 I have a Sony a7iii
@@fromnaras davinci resolve is free
Yo dude, plz do a video with the new CinePrint35! Huge update and way better than CinePrint16 imo
@@chasefilms8860 working on it! Trying to get everyone on board for the next comparison video
Nice video
goog video bro
TYSM!
filmbox is 100% best
you just made Dehancer worthless in my eyes( feel like I paid for nothing
Lol😂
@@chromiqa no dude, I use it in almost all my grades. It had wonderful look creation. In this comparison though, it falls shorter than the other custom built tools. Try ektachrome or Fuji velvia 50 (trust me)
Watch an in depth video on how to properly setup and use Dehancer, and how each section of dehancer affects the image differently. I.e adjusting exposure, white balance, and contrast in the camera profile section affect the image very differently than adjusting them in the print tab (print tab is better for film emulation imo) and it can be important to add color depth / saturation in Dehancer as the standard presets can be very desaturated. Also be sure that DaVinci understands what camera you’re shooting on so all of your color tools are mapped properly to your log files, so you can use the LOG wheels in DaVinci to move your hues around. Search up a video on how to work in a color managed project in DaVinci, and with all of that set up you won’t be disappointed at all, it’s a phenomenal tool and you can definitely get some amazing film emulation using it.
@@CartyMadeThisEktachrome is so good mannn, dehancer can make some good stuff it just really sucks on performance
cineprint16 is like subtractive sat on steroids
@@SHDEdits yeah it looks incredible