Sometimes even beating people over their heads with facts doesn't help. They must be using a fact-sensitive version of the glasses Zaphod Beeblebrox wore.
As a licensed therapist I am continually having to teach people that understanding their spouse's (or their children's or their parent's) point of view does not mean that you agree. I do it all the time as a therapist, working to understand my client's point of view.
There are so many people who think adult life works like a high school popularity contest. I find TIK is one of the better presenters for carefully considering the bias of a source and recognizing when and how that might limit the usefulness of that source's information.
"There are so many people who think adult life works like a high school popularity contest." That's the problem - people think that 'democracy' (aka popularity contest) is the answer to everything. In reality, if everyone thinks the moon is made of cheese, that doesn't make it so. I can be the most hated person ever, but it doesn't matter if I have the best argument (the one based on reason and evidence, rather than emotion).
@@TheImperatorKnight That's democracy's biggest flaw. We don't have what's best. We have what's most wanted. Don't forget Hitler was elected. If Hitler tried the same thing in a totalitarian country, he would probably get arrested and shot.
@@TheImperatorKnight You seem to be unaware that Pat Buchanan is a regular on the PBS political commentary show the McLaughlin Group. He's not a nazi he's what's known as a paleo-conservative. PBS is a government funded tv network that's left wing like the BBC. He's not comparable to David Irving. You've really dropped the ball on this one. The people who wrote the comments against him are the kind of people who revere Che Guevara & dream of the return of the Soviet Union.
Just like those idiots that tried to "refute" a 5 hours long video with more than one hundred sources and quotes, with an obscure 20 minutes long video of an italian communist saying that the making of profit is the basis of fascism. Just unbelievable
In college, I had an unapologetic German veteran of Stalingrad as a professor. We got a good grounding in what Germans REALLY thought at the time. He pulled no punches - we got to see all the (then banned) German films and newsreels and hear the real case for Hitler's viewpoint. He always used to laugh when someone said WW2 was 'freedom against tyranny'. Conversely, I also had a a Stalinist for a Russian history class. And it was a Catholic college. Imagine that happening today.
The whole "politically correct/SJW" approach of never studying the works of people you disagree with is useless for understanding history. And everything else.
The problem is that book of controversial author is not a primary source. That`s why i think answer "To get the full picture, you have to look at sources you might not like" is not correct and have no sense. There are people who thinks that historians shouldn`t read and use German primer sources (documents of divisions, for example). Your answer will be correct in this case. In case of book with way more subject view it`s not correct. At least if you not investigate some right views on WW2 or something. If i will use some Soviet books from 1970s-80s or modern Ukrainian books about WW2 i will just a fool. Such of these sources need a very skeptical analysis. Прошу прощения за мой английский.
You do because of your lack of comprehension of what racism is. I and many others don't. Besides you don't need to cite racists because other more credible historians can do a better job and don't have an agenda to push
His historical work is very good, I just don't agree with some of his political and economic views. I love the fact that he points out that race is a human social construct and has no basis in biology or reality.
Regardless of who Patrick Buccanan is, his theory that both World Wars could be avoided is quite interesting. Especially, the events that lead to the declaration of World War I, are both tragic and stupid.
The central powers and the entente were itching for a war. If it wasn't the Archdukes assassination it would have been something else months or years later.
WW1 was going to happen, there were too many people on both sides that wanted a war for it not to happen. It probably would have happened differently but it would have happened. WW2 might not have happened if WW1 had gone differently. For instance if Germany had reversed it strategy and gone on the defensive in the west (no invasion of Belgium) while attacking Russia (Germany wanted a war with Russia by 1917 because they believed it would be too strong after then). That change alone would probably have kept the British out of the war (there was mass public opinion against getting involved in the war) , which would have kept the US out as well (no blockade). It would have left the French beating themselves against the German defences in Alsace and Lorraine while the majority of the German army went at the Russians.
If Pat Buchanan is evil why is it that he's against stupid foreign wars unlike Obama, Biden & Clinton who had no problem destroying Libya & Syria? Why is he a regular on the McLaughlin Group which is produced by the left wing government funded tv network PBS if he's a crack-pot nazi? He's a paleo-conservative who's hated by the people who revere Che Guevara & dream of the return of the Soviet Union & sundry other communist nightmares.
@@autodidact537 because his views dont line up with theirs. So what if he is anti semetic, Racism isnt just a right wing area and unfortunately has governed how humanity acts for thousands of years.
You're not gonna be popular on Reddit (or pretty much anywhere else in the modern society) with this kind of mentality. Cause it's almost like saying your opponents might sometimes have a valid point.
Patrick Buchanan was a respected syndicated journalist and commentator who regularly appeared on, or hosted, shows such as CNN's Crossfire and the McLaughlin Group; he was never shunned by the mainstream media. He is not a crackpot or a nut.
He's only called a crackpot because he labelled the US Congress as" Israeli occupied territory" . You can't call out the zionists without being labelled a anti Semite
TIK has an agenda to show WW2 as his handlers wants. He is skilled at making entertaining WW2 videos with some revisionists history salted in. And he is smart enough not to over salt the food he serves his subscribers...
Buchanan has kinda veered off course as he has aged - and he is really old. But quoting his books from 30 years ago is perfectly legit. Remember... he was a speech writer for Nixon so its not like he was not credible.
@@BlackMan614 Plus it is true Roosevelt was in a struggle between his views on defeating Hitler and the political reality that if we strike first it would of hurt him politically. Pretty much Pearl Harbor and Hitler's declaration of war on U.S.A bailed him out so he can openly take his fight to Hitler. Historic truth.
@@BlackMan614 Its thought provoking but you should be able to handle such debate. The best debates to have is the debates is the one that questions your values and Morals. Passion and believe is the best debate motivator. Like he said be willing to listen to perspective's that you heartily disagree with.
Know thy enemy! The fastest way to do that is to watch them and listen to them. Their carefully crafted writings can give insights if you do not just skim over the surface.
This isnt tiks point though. View things as best as you can from a meta perspective and analyze even "your enemy" as if they are what they are; real humans with opinions, feelings, beliefs, ect.
I could not agree more. But you have to understand that the way the term "Conservative" is used in the British context is not saying much. Their "Conservatives" are only slightly more conservative than an American progressive. So anything further right wing of British conservatives in the UK is a considered a nazi.
Just the fact that you have to explain yourself on a matter that obvious is a pain to witness. You are by far one of the best historians I've ever heard/met/seen. Please continue doing what your're doing because you're an inspiration to many people. Love from Poland :)
@Mars Attacks cringe centrist take. You fear radicalism because you fear the change and progress. You're a neocon because you want to preserve the status quo of those who rule over you (the elite) Democracy is a lie. Be radical, be strong be a man among men.
@Mars Attacks it was Great back then and it was beautiful. People aren't happy when forced to live together this goes for everywhere, America is forcing itself to an imminent collapse. That's why China and Russia aren't making any moves towards the "American Empire"
As someone that takes a generally left wing socially and economically viewpoint I totally agree with TIKs comments here. The authenticity of films like Downfall, books like the Last Battle etc would be completely absent without quoting sources that were either Nazis or Stalinist. So take your pick..
>Why I quote people you don't like. But you don't? I have no reason to form a personal opinion of them. Now, if you wanted to quote someone that I disliked you'd be quoting some of my Marxist high school "friends" who basically get triggered when you argue things they don't agree with and can't have rational arguments.
Marxists are tired of ridiculing TIK. Check out FinBol and SocialistDemocrat's videos about him and then say "rational argument")) Would you like the links?
"Check out FinBol and SocialistDemocrat's videos about him and then say "rational argument"))" Yeah, I love their videos (sarcasm). Hilarious how irrational they are. SocialistDemocrat even 'divines' how I'm a Nazi because, obviously, he's able to talk to divine entities
@@TheImperatorKnight dear TIK, respond to central points of FinBol's video without ideological biases, without your religious beliefs in Friedman's economics. Ignoring one part of reality and forwarding another. We love your metaphysical thinking!)
"@TIK dear TIK, respond to central points of FinBol's video without ideological biases, without your religious beliefs in Friedman's economics. Ignoring one part of reality and forwarding another. We love your metaphysical thinking!)" I did. I spent a significant portion of my 5 hour "Hitler's Socialism" video directly responding to his various points. That's partly why it was so long ruclips.net/video/eCkyWBPaTC8/видео.html I didn't directly aim the video at him, because I don't want to give him any credit. Same with others who have criticized me. I don't answer them directly, I answer their arguments for the benefit of people who actually listen and want to learn. And also, I'd don't "believe" in Friedman's economics.
Also, there's a reason I named the Hitler's Socialism video "Destroying the Denialist Counter Arguments" I took the counter-arguments given to me, and I destroyed them. Since then, the only counter I've got is that I don't know the "TRUE" definition of Socialism. But again, my critics ignore what I said in my Hitler's Socialism video, and distort/ignore my arguments in favour of denial and attacking my character. This is why they ignore this video ruclips.net/video/ksAqr4lLA_Y/видео.html
Göbbels was in favour of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech. - Noam Chomsky
Free speech is Freemasonic. Free speech doesn't work in the real world. Left-leaning RUclips and Google proof my theory correct. Catholic church did the same in Ireland. I see no point in talking to my enemies who want kill to silence the White man.
@@BlackpilledBuddha6476 As you've provided no evidence, it's technically a hypotheses, not a theory. On a grammatical basis you should have used prove, not proof. 0/10, try again.
maybe a video on "what is a Bias?". many people think it works only one way, and forget that if you don't see things from the "wrong" perspective too, it makes you biased the other way around.
@@aidankerrigan7117 Though really, the point is that when using a quote in an educated and nuanced context, it can be an effective quote, whereas when misused, the quote can be incoherent and even harmful. A quotation, from this perspective, has no intrinsic value, but instead is valuable and futile depending on the individual and their usage of it. Thus, just because he quotes despicable people does not imply that he emulates what they say, but uses it to provide proper historical context.
-"(...) So, use multiples sources from different perspectives. (...)". This sentence should be the leitmotiv of every historian who investigate for the true.
This reasoning is why I stay subscribed. To do proper history requires understanding the viewpoints of others, including views that you disagree with (or even vehemently oppose). If you cannot understand, you cannot disagree.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Sun Tzu
After watching the video, it does not seem to present Buchanan as a specifically anti-Semitic source arguing what Hitler might have thought. Rather, it seems you use him as a general source, especially regarding the capacity of bombers
Not really, he started writing after he stopped working for Reagan and nixon and went on a crusade against bush. He was a reaction(some might say an overcorrection) to the neoconservative MonoParty warmongering of the 1990s and 2000s
You also have to understand America's interventions in the Middle East. WW2 has been used as a reason we should invade these countries. "We rebuilt Germany and Japan into democracies. We should do the same to Iraq and Afghanistan." Buchannan may have wanted to show that even this "good war" that was used as a reason for our intervention also had their problems.
Im a history major college dropout and i wish i had this video when i was in college to challenge the idiotic professors who marked me down when i quoted a source that was from a nut wing point of view. my professors were dumb.
The important thing is choosing when to use what source, and ask the source the right questions. Very true. The context is what matters. You could pretty much always publish two articles using the same sources, one in favor of and one against a theory, depending on what parts of a souce you choose based on the questions that you ask it.
I appreciate that you use all sources, but to call Pat an anti-Semite and especially a Nazi is just ridiculous. He’s a devout Catholic, that’s his ideology, not Nazism.
"Here is what modern white supremacists and neo-nazis think about Adolf Hitler, in order to put this topic in perspective to the modern world, which is relevant to literally everyone watching this video" "OMFG WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS DON'T YOU KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE RACISTS?!?!?!?" "That's the fuckin point my dood"
Pat Buchanan is not an anti-Semitic crack-pot. Whomever said that is a left-wing partisan. Nationalism is not evil because Hitler was a nationalist. Grow up.
Buchie is sympathetic to Hitla? Antisemitic? Since when? Rothbard was close to Buchanan, they agreed on antiwar and isolationism, but disagreed on trade and economics.
It's definitely gone downhill since then. I had someone comment once saying that they didn't believe me about how bad the universities were... until they actually went to university and saw just how many of their professors were open Marxists.
@@TheImperatorKnight - There’s a famous economist by the name of Thomas Sowell. He said he was a Marxist while at university. He got a real job working for the Federal government and his views began to chamge. Everyone should read what he’s written and it should be taught in the schools.
I must say, its very entertaining watching TIK having to clarify the obvious in a video specifically for this purpose. Its comedy gold. But also a sad reflection of education today.
Was about to comment about Pat Buchanan on the previous video and then remembered TIK’s approach to understanding the actors in history. Instead of simply dismissing opposite views to yours, you have to try and falsify them; otherwise, their point stands. In the case of Pat Buchanan, you really cannot argue that FDR did not deliberately mislead American public opinion towards war with Germany. If Buchanan finds that to be a reason for Nazi sympathizing, we have plenty of proof Nazis are not the “good guys”. However, dismissing perfectly valid arguments just because it’s Pat frickin Buchanan making them is wrong.
@@altaiaurelius When you said Roosevelt "deliberately mislead American public opinion," did you mean he deliberately lead them in the wrong direction, or that he lead them in the right direction by means of which you don't approve?
@@agentorange6085 I mean that he deliberately mislead the American public into increasing tensions with Germany when he could have actively worked to avoid it. Despite the USA sending lend lease to Britain against Germany with the idea that Germany couldn’t be allowed to take over the continent, by 1945 you had a Soviet-dominated Eastern Europe, even worse in geopolitical terms than a potential Nazi victory (not against the USSR but against Britain and France). I’m still of the opinion that the USA could have made a sincere effort to stay out of the European conflict rather than the two-faced “‘neutrality” in our timeline.
I don't believe Buchannan sympathizes with the Nazis, I think TIK was being unfair there. I just don't think he thought either world war was America's fight.
That quote doesn't mean they weren't both enemies, FYI. Just that he viewed the Russian as the more pressing threat to kneecap. (Which was, as demonstrated by a mostly bloodless Cold War era escalation & the USA's eventual unilateral triumph that launched it to supreme world power for decades on end, incorrect.) Anyone who views the modern, post-Soviet Russian state as a bigger threat to the USA than the Chinese or their German allies is bonkers, frankly.
@@freeman8914 Communism fails. Neither the modern Russian state or the Chinese are Communists, and appeals to Communism and Socialism in the US have been superseded by a joint lobby of environmentalists and social humanists that demand total obsequies from society. Rail against a real enemy instead of jumping at ghosts.
Calling Pat Buchannan "sympathetic to Hitler" is a little nuts. He just favors US non-intervention, including both World Wars, and all the modern terror wars.
Not heard you quote Irving and if you have to defend using Pat Buchanan, a mainstream politician who served at least three American Presidents including Nixon for his term, then you have no chance on here. Its so sad how much politics has fouled our lives!
Buchanan is far from a mainstream politician. What planet do you live on? Being a speech writer behind the scenes is not a "mainstream" gig. Running a minority campaign of the extreme right against George Bush wasn't mainstream. Running as an independent and receiving a pitiful amount of the vote isn't mainstream. Hucking books to Cold War diehards and Neo-Confederates isn't mainstream. When was he mainstream? When he was the token crackpot on The McLaughlin Group?
@@blaisevillaume2225 I'm not going to debate political ratings with you but this chap is a heavyweight GOP politician with counltss best selling books and service to 3 or more Presidents cabinets and does not require explaining to anyone, if you dislike his opinions tough shit kid it alters nothing...
@@DaveSCameron I see, you just don't understand what the word "mainstream" means and my comment must have gone completely over your head because it had nothing to do with my opinions about him. Keep that kid shit to yourself, little boy.
@@blaisevillaume2225 I bow to your superiour place and knowledge and should have been more aware than to have expected clarification, proceed and program.
Mr. Cameron, I fear that Pat Buchanan today is unpopular outside of populist circles. He probably won't get a fair review here, these folks being interested in legitimate historical study and Pat, of late, being interested in populism and its potential to delegitimize the Liberals. I doubt if TIK is invested in American politics, he just reads sources and doesn't parse them for political correctness. Buchanan wrote some usable things, but I think his thesis that the World Wars were unnecessary was a tautology inasmuch as very few wars were necessary. Irving wrote some great stuff early on. Cheers!
"How are you today Tik?" Tired... Stalingrad has eaten up all my time, and I'm not getting enough non-Stalingrad research done, so I'm falling behind. I'm reluctant to accept the fact that doing both Stalingrad (a LOT of work) and everything else (also a LOT of work) is not sustainable over the long term. One or the other has to give... But I don't want to accept this fact.
@@TheImperatorKnight We're patient, and won't panic if you have to slow the tempo. Your quality of work has aged well, and that's what makes you so awesome. We've got yer back!
@@TheImperatorKnight Keep up the good work for as long as you can on You Tube. I watch other people who are wary of ending up being banned from it. If it happens to you. I will stop using Google. I have already deleted myself from Facebook and Twitter because of their ultra left wing, Globalist, crony Capitialist Silicon Valley, nerdy censorship and am staying on You Tube for you. I know you have alternative channels and will sign on now.
I actually like Buchanan he actually isn't a crackpot he just favors a restrained foreign policy and avoiding entanglements. He also isn't an anti semite or racist.
OMG EXACTLY! I love you man! Finally a true historian who knows what he's doing! That's the whole point of being an historian, we don't just judge people or past events based on our current bias nor give our personal opinions about the events. We simply state what happened from a neutral point of view taking into account all the perspectives necessary. The more sources from multiple biases, the more accurate we would get to the truth, because no doubt it's somewhere there in the middle.
I mean he argued Treblinka was not a death camp, despite the fact that nearly a million jews were murdered there. Sounds like something that fuck nucket David Irving would say
@@arwing20 Technically you can deny the Holocaust and not necessarily hate Jews on the basis of their race/ethnicity. The term anti Semite has become among the most abused in the modern English language at this point
@@arwing20 I’ve heard Buchanan speak on WW2 quite a bit and he’s no Hitler apologist. He just points out the foolish policies of the western powers towards Germany and that Stalin was arguably worse than Hitler so working with him was morally bankrupt. Idk exactly what he said about Treblinka, but I’m pretty sure it’s an old quote he’s never denied millions of Jews were murdered. I’d listen to Buchanan talk about WW2 before you call him an “anti-Semite” he did a bunch of interviews for his Churchill Hitler and the Unnecessary War book.
@@arwing20 "The point is considerably more general. Denial of monstrous atrocities, whatever their scale, does not in itself suffice to prove that those who deny them are racists vis-a-vis the victims. I am sure you agree with this point, which everyone constantly accepts. Thus, in the journal of the American Jewish Congress, a representative of ASI writes that stories about Hitler’s anti-gypsy genocide are an “exploded fiction.” In fact, as one can learn from the scholarly literature (also Wiesenthal, Vidal-Naquet, etc.), Hitler’s treatment of the gypsies was on a par with his slaughter of Jews. But we do not conclude from these facts alone that the AJC and ASI are anti-gypsy racists. Similarly, numerous scholars deny that the Armenian genocide took place, and some people, like Elie Wiesel, make extraordinary efforts to prevent any commemoration or even discussion of it. Until the last few years, despite overwhelming evidence before their eyes, scholars denied the slaughter of some 10 million native Americans in North America and perhaps 100 million on the [South American] continent. Recent studies of US opinion show that the median estimate of Vietnamese casualties [resulting from the Vietnam War] is 100,000, about 1/20 of the official figure and probably 1\30 or 1\40 of the actual figure. The reason is that that is the fare they have been fed by the propaganda apparatus (media, journals of opinion, intellectuals, etc., “scholarship,” etc.) for 20 years. We (at least I) do not conclude from that fact alone that virtually the whole country consists of anti-Vietnamese racists. I leave it to you to draw the obvious analogies. In these and numerous other cases, one needs more evidence before concluding that the individuals are racists. Thus in the case of Wiesel, it is quite likely that he is merely following the instructions of the Israeli government, which doesn’t want Turkey embarrassed. In short, denial of even the most horrendous slaughter does not in itself establish the charge of racism, as everyone agrees. Since that is obvious and undeniable, one naturally questions the motives of those who deny the truism selectively, and produce charges such as those you relay." chomsky.info/1989____/
If Pat Buchanan is a crack-pot nazi why is he a regular commentator on the left-wing government funded PBS tv network show the McLaughlin Group? He's actually what's known as a paleo-conservative. He's against stupid foreign wars unlike Obama, Biden & Clinton who helped destroy Libya & Syria. The people who hate Pat Buchanan are the same types who revere Che Guevara & dream of the return of the Soviet Union & sundry other communist tyrannies.
I don't always agree with you but I will never question your integrity. You go right two primary sources and bring up things that no one really wants to hear. But they should want to hear. Everything you do is invaluable. Keep it up.
Pat Buchanan is hardly a far right or white supremacist nut, and his book on the "Unnecessary War" was very well researched. The fact that he points out ignored or downplayed aspects of the war or shed light on errors in British judgement and Soviet duplicity makes him targets of the Left. Pat is a civil nationalist, a respected paleo-conservative, non-interventionist and free market guy.
I cant believe you actually had to tell people this. How sad. My view of The Masses remains bleak. Most folks' comprehension skills are woefully lacking. I apologize if this view makes me sound elitist. But it's people like this that vote for high political offices. When they arn't watching the Kardashians.
The Masses (at least the US variety) are results of the US educational system, which is literally designed to produce good factory workers, not critical thinkers. Why do you think everything is so boring and monotonous, especially when it comes to history? It's memorizing names, dates, and places for a test and then can promptly forget that information once the test is over with. This absolutely absurd stressed importance on testing is what's produced this lack of comprehension and critical thinking. Which is also why they choose to blank out with trashy tv and mind-numbing substances. They absolutely hate their lives, their souls have been ground into nothingness probably by the time they even reached high school, and they literally cannot drag themselves out of that hole because they've never had that opportunity to develop critical thinking skills. And then if they have had those chances to break out of 'name dates places' numbness, they're stuck in dead-end jobs that are completely pointless just to try and scrounge enough money to even survive on and most of the time failing to do that because cost of living has massively outpaced wage increases and what little extra they do find themselves with they blow out on new phones or expensive things just to give themselves a brief moment of happiness and joy in the massive gray fog of their lives. (horrifically huge run on sentence, but oh well it's the train of thought) It makes you sound elitist in the point of judging them for not wanting to deal with the reality of the giant mess of a flaming dumpster fire (ie, trashy tv and voting practices) and them going 'oh well like it's any different from everything else' because they've been taught and groomed all their lives to see that living in the flaming dumpster fire is the *only option* available. They can't see the bucket of water, and even if they did, they don't even begin to know how to at least fix it - and thanks to this perfectionist streak that's been baked into society, it's all or nothing. If you can't get it absolutely perfect, don't bother. I'd want to ignore it all too. Do I facepalm frequently and want to rail against some of The Masses and ask what's going on in their heads? Absolutely. But I can also grasp things from their point of view - just the way TIK was saying that if you want to know what a nazi was thinking, you have to read a nazi. If you want to know why The Masses are doing this, you need to look at The Masses and all factors contributing to them.
@@aislin2989 Ok. LOL! Sorry, its just that your response was so long I had to reply with marked brevity. I love humor, hope you do too. In any case, you make some valid points. And wonderfully long run-on sentences as well! lol I can see that you are passionate in your opinions. As am I... a former factory worker. ;-)
@@billd.iniowa2263 lol nah I get it. Brevity is indeed wittiness! (I'm more a fan of absolutely terrible puns myself. The more I steam at a pun is the more I love it.) Yeah, I have a really bad habit of forming gigantic run-on sentences/paragraphs from the train of thought process to make sure I get everything down. It's not until I go back over it that I realize that I just put so many words into one sentence. I do also get super passionate about looking at factors that contribute to historical events - nothing exists in a vacuum outside of a lab (even 'vacuum of space' is a misnomer!) so we really do have to look at every contribution.
@@aislin2989 Oh no, you didnt just say "Pun" did you?! I LOVE punnery! Thats just how eye roll. (Which, coincidentally, is the greatest pun ever devised.) :-D
@@billd.iniowa2263 ohhh that's a good one. I have to maintain that 3RACHA (3 members of the K-pop group Stray Kids) is one of the best ones I've seen. (In transliteration 'three' turns into something more like 'shri' in Korean... Sriracha. I'm still so inordinately mad at that pun lol)
Those comments are just a reflection of the mentality of the public nowadays. You cannot even state the reasoning of those you do not agree with even in an attempt to point out their flaws, just silence all thoughts not in line with your own.
@@TheImperatorKnight No, he isn't. He is a paleoconservative who is against big government and foreign intervention. Only raging leftists who paint him as some white supremacist because it serves their political ends.
@@TheImperatorKnight The charge of antisemitism is based in smaller part on his belief that Hitler was driven first by geopolitical motivations rather than animus towards the Jews, and much moreso his disdain for Zionism: actual Zionism, US intervention in the middle east to assert the independence of Israel, not the conspiratorial kind. In recent years, American Democrats have adopted the view that the Israeli lobby is oppressing the Middle East and preventing the US from supporting Palestine themselves, but they're very rarely accused for being bigots for it. Edit: Pat Buchanan is actually pretty important to US politics in this regard; after he was "made an example of" it went several decades before anyone of either political party was willing to speak out against perceived or real Israeli interests in US politics again. In very recent years, AIPAC has been vocally criticized for perpetuating and funding campaigns against anyone who besmirched US-Israel relations as an "antisemite" as an attempt to stifle future criticism, an accusation which some affiliated with the AIPAC have referred to as an antisemitic canard (hilariously enough). Foreign Policy In Focus writer Stephen Zunes tackled this back in 2006. It's a good read and focuses on how it's more a soft-power and cultural problem than AIPAC being all-powerful, and how military industrialists have benefited from the arrangement.
After reading some of Buchannan's columns, one is struck by his grasp of consequentialism, identifying stumbling blocks to national interests and the historical roots of both.
Buchanan an anti-Semite though? This is one of those lines that's thrown out there because someone heard he was ... I've never seen any proof of it though. Then again we'd need to agree on a definition of what constitutes an anti-semite.
In the United States WW2 is portrayed as an example of a good and just war. Since 1945 its part of our mythology. However, as time goes on and one looks back at the past a lot of myths of the war are put to the test. Some pass and some fail.
Love this. The biggest problem facing the United States right now is that people refuse to listen to both sides of any discussion. They want to erase any facet of history that maybe in conflict with what they want to perceive as correct.
This guy singlehandedly kicks Time Ghost History's ass. No mealy mouthed relativism, no weasel words or meek apologies to the mob, just an even keeled, no shit taken approach with boatloads of primary sources.
@TIK My high school history teacher told me to better understand history that I should read as many viewpoints as possible because history is written by the victors. You are doing just that. (I do the same thing.) WELL DONE! Carry on!
For instance, I sometimes disagree with your economic ideas. But, I love listening to it because it provides useful perspective and expands my knowledge overall. You present your viewpoints very well and it’s all logically presented. I can disagree with you, but I can also listen and use it to expand my personal knowledge and understanding of economic theory. Thanks for the video TIK, wishing you a Happy New Year.
Using authors that confirm our own biases and are socially approved is EXACTLY where we are headed in the USA. You can thank social views grounded in "Conflict Theory" for that.
@@agentorange6085 I don’t think Hitler declared war on Germany unless I don’t know something. I don’t know why Hitler declared war on the US, it’s not really something I read Buchanan’s opinion on
"How DARE you quote far-right people while trying to understand the mentality of the far right! You should quote everyone EXCEPT the far right while trying to understand the far right" - Idiots that lack critical thinking skills and think everybody else does too. I guess "Know thy enemy" is defunct in modern scholarship.
This is such an undervalued point in history, and in researching/sourcing in general. Understanding the views of those you disagree with, is paramount to expanding ones own base of knowledge, otherwise, we just dig our heels in deeper to our own biases, regardless of whether or not we admit to having them.
"the worlds' IQ has dropped so much in recent times" The number of dummies was always the same. But technology enabled them to enter the debate as equals.
The issue is that they didn't enter the debate as equals... They don't debate! Their idea of a debate is an emotional outburst! And that's obviously not what a debate is ☹️ It's not necessarily that IQ dropped, it's poor teachers who are ideologically driven. The miseducation system is the problem more than anything else
What are your thoughts on Churchill, Hitler, and the Unneccessary War? I think its good that Buchanan challenges the narrative surrounding Churchill, and tries to sympathize with the enemy, but Buchanan's misunderstanding of Hitler and defense of nazi ideology makes him incredible.
The fact that TIK has to state the bleeding obvious makes me sad for humanity.
Absolutely yes!
This isn't the first video he's made like this
"Each one carries bits of truth." - (I think it's from) God.
the fact that people cant see it for themselves makes me sad.
Sometimes even beating people over their heads with facts doesn't help. They must be using a fact-sensitive version of the glasses Zaphod Beeblebrox wore.
As a licensed therapist I am continually having to teach people that understanding their spouse's (or their children's or their parent's) point of view does not mean that you agree. I do it all the time as a therapist, working to understand my client's point of view.
...and yet, despite being a trained therapist, you haven't noticed the rightward shift in his arguments?
@@georgecromarty5372
what do you mean by rightward shift?
@@georgecromarty5372 Did you see him as arguing for a point of view or explaining a point of view?
@@georgecromarty5372 he hasn't he's just putting out information that goes against your political beliefs.
@@georgecromarty5372 Oh boo hoo, boo hoo.
There are so many people who think adult life works like a high school popularity contest.
I find TIK is one of the better presenters for carefully considering the bias of a source and recognizing when and how that might limit the usefulness of that source's information.
"There are so many people who think adult life works like a high school popularity contest."
That's the problem - people think that 'democracy' (aka popularity contest) is the answer to everything. In reality, if everyone thinks the moon is made of cheese, that doesn't make it so. I can be the most hated person ever, but it doesn't matter if I have the best argument (the one based on reason and evidence, rather than emotion).
@@TheImperatorKnight TIK 2024
@@TheImperatorKnight 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼Awesome
@@TheImperatorKnight That's democracy's biggest flaw. We don't have what's best. We have what's most wanted. Don't forget Hitler was elected. If Hitler tried the same thing in a totalitarian country, he would probably get arrested and shot.
@@TheImperatorKnight You seem to be unaware that Pat Buchanan is a regular on the PBS political commentary show the McLaughlin Group. He's not a nazi he's what's known as a paleo-conservative. PBS is a government funded tv network that's left wing like the BBC. He's not comparable to David Irving. You've really dropped the ball on this one. The people who wrote the comments against him are the kind of people who revere Che Guevara & dream of the return of the Soviet Union.
It's like getting upset at using fascists to define fascism.
You mean like every single fucking argument I have with idiots who don’t understand what Fascism is and only use the Marxist definitions of it?
Just like those idiots that tried to "refute" a 5 hours long video with more than one hundred sources and quotes, with an obscure 20 minutes long video of an italian communist saying that the making of profit is the basis of fascism. Just unbelievable
@@BioHunter1990 Or reading your comments to define commentary.
@@DaveSCameron What has he done to you? Why are you mean to everyone in the comment section. Grow up!
their opinions might just be a wee bit tendentious
In college, I had an unapologetic German veteran of Stalingrad as a professor. We got a good grounding in what Germans REALLY thought at the time. He pulled no punches - we got to see all the (then banned) German films and newsreels and hear the real case for Hitler's viewpoint. He always used to laugh when someone said WW2 was 'freedom against tyranny'. Conversely, I also had a a Stalinist for a Russian history class. And it was a Catholic college. Imagine that happening today.
My macroeconomics teacher in university was a communist. Interesting, considering we lived in a free market capitalist country.
Why Hitler hated the jews.
From a Jewish Rabbi.
ruclips.net/video/Lv3iA2A-Th4/видео.html
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 ....
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 Yes?
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 funny considering how poorly communists have been known to understand macroeconomics.
To get the full picture, you have to look at sources you might not like.
To understand antisemitism, you might have to study the views of people who are antisemitic.
Crazy, I know.
The whole "politically correct/SJW" approach of never studying the works of people you disagree with is useless for understanding history. And everything else.
This is exactly why banning books that reveal the perspective of these people is counterproductive.
@@q0w1e2r3t4y5 Indeed.
The problem is that book of controversial author is not a primary source. That`s why i think answer "To get the full picture, you have to look at sources you might not like" is not correct and have no sense.
There are people who thinks that historians shouldn`t read and use German primer sources (documents of divisions, for example). Your answer will be correct in this case. In case of book with way more subject view it`s not correct. At least if you not investigate some right views on WW2 or something.
If i will use some Soviet books from 1970s-80s or modern Ukrainian books about WW2 i will just a fool. Such of these sources need a very skeptical analysis.
Прошу прощения за мой английский.
They should play this video at the start of every university history class. Daily.
In your little world perhaps so...
You don't need a racist to ask why racists do racist things
Its just common sense, its no different from only listening to hitler.
@@davidmurray2964 yes you do.... you quite literally fucking do...
You do because of your lack of comprehension of what racism is. I and many others don't. Besides you don't need to cite racists because other more credible historians can do a better job and don't have an agenda to push
I mean, I don't even agree with TIK on everything. Doesn't mean he doesn't have tremendously informational videos.
some of his hair didnt agree with him too... and fell
If I agreed with what everyone said what the hell kind of world would we live in?
@@saidalas7763 Now that's what I call 'The right of disassociation'.
@@sv5813 America.
His historical work is very good, I just don't agree with some of his political and economic views.
I love the fact that he points out that race is a human social construct and has no basis in biology or reality.
Aristotle said a good judge of intelligence is the ability to entertain ideas without necessarily accepting them.
The "you should only use sources I like" mentality says far too much about those who hold it, their mentality, and logic skills.
Regardless of who Patrick Buccanan is, his theory that both World Wars could be avoided is quite interesting. Especially, the events that lead to the declaration of World War I, are both tragic and stupid.
The central powers and the entente were itching for a war. If it wasn't the Archdukes assassination it would have been something else months or years later.
@@scotttracy9333 That's true, but we will never know what would happen, if they could manage to deescalate that particular crisis.
WW1 was going to happen, there were too many people on both sides that wanted a war for it not to happen. It probably would have happened differently but it would have happened. WW2 might not have happened if WW1 had gone differently. For instance if Germany had reversed it strategy and gone on the defensive in the west (no invasion of Belgium) while attacking Russia (Germany wanted a war with Russia by 1917 because they believed it would be too strong after then). That change alone would probably have kept the British out of the war (there was mass public opinion against getting involved in the war) , which would have kept the US out as well (no blockade). It would have left the French beating themselves against the German defences in Alsace and Lorraine while the majority of the German army went at the Russians.
If Pat Buchanan is evil why is it that he's against stupid foreign wars unlike Obama, Biden & Clinton who had no problem destroying Libya & Syria? Why is he a regular on the McLaughlin Group which is produced by the left wing government funded tv network PBS if he's a crack-pot nazi? He's a paleo-conservative who's hated by the people who revere Che Guevara & dream of the return of the Soviet Union & sundry other communist nightmares.
@@autodidact537 because his views dont line up with theirs. So what if he is anti semetic, Racism isnt just a right wing area and unfortunately has governed how humanity acts for thousands of years.
It's almost like history is more complicated than a self imposed echo chamber
You're not gonna be popular on Reddit (or pretty much anywhere else in the modern society) with this kind of mentality. Cause it's almost like saying your opponents might sometimes have a valid point.
@@2005batman No, you're just an idiot.
@@zupalan2265 redditor spotted
Patrick Buchanan was a respected syndicated journalist and commentator who regularly appeared on, or hosted, shows such as CNN's Crossfire and the McLaughlin Group; he was never shunned by the mainstream media. He is not a crackpot or a nut.
You can trace some of PB’s ideas to Trump, which shows that his thinking is still around.
Agreed.
"Crossfire", was a great program.
He's only called a crackpot because he labelled the US Congress as" Israeli occupied territory" . You can't call out the zionists without being labelled a anti Semite
TIK has an agenda to show WW2 as his handlers wants.
He is skilled at making entertaining WW2 videos with some revisionists history salted in.
And he is smart enough not to over salt the food he serves his subscribers...
Imagine if Hitler said that it cold in the winter?! I guess we would have eternal summer then, as Hitler cant be right.
Winter would probably be considered anti-Semitic too and you could get arrested in certain countries to dare question on it.
@@Canzandridas So is vegetarianism, having German Shepherds as pets, and opposition to tobacco smoking. Hurrrr a durrrrrrrr!
That *would* explain global warming.
Motorways would be banned.
Once again, TIK is right. Even though Buchanan might be a bit "off" on certain things, that doesn't make him less quotable than Hitler and Rommel.
If you include deliberate distortions for self-aggrandizement, I agree.
Buchanan has kinda veered off course as he has aged - and he is really old. But quoting his books from 30 years ago is perfectly legit. Remember... he was a speech writer for Nixon so its not like he was not credible.
@@BlackMan614 Plus it is true Roosevelt was in a struggle between his views on defeating Hitler and the political reality that if we strike first it would of hurt him politically. Pretty much Pearl Harbor and Hitler's declaration of war on U.S.A bailed him out so he can openly take his fight to Hitler. Historic truth.
@@BlackMan614 Its thought provoking but you should be able to handle such debate. The best debates to have is the debates is the one that questions your values and Morals. Passion and believe is the best debate motivator. Like he said be willing to listen to perspective's that you heartily disagree with.
@@jamesjacocks6221 and liberals and leftists would never, ever do such a thing
Know thy enemy! The fastest way to do that is to watch them and listen to them. Their carefully crafted writings can give insights if you do not just skim over the surface.
That is how scipio beat Hannibal at Zama in the end. By learning Hannibal.
*"You can't quote Hitler as a primary source! He's anti-Semitic!"*
/s
Just call the CNN and ask them.
They're the most trusted source of knowledge, no?
LMAO
Pat Buchanan worked on CNN for many years, that makes CNN racist
I suppose you could call Pat Buchanon anti-semitic, if you use the same logic that claims Ben Shapiro is a Nazi.
I suppose you could call Adolf Hitler an Antisemite ,if you uae the same logic that claims TIK is a Nazi
Hearing this felt condescending. Then depressed that we live in a world of grown ups who need an elementary school lesson on critical thinking.
You got to hear the other side's perspective so you'll know what you're up against
This isnt tiks point though. View things as best as you can from a meta perspective and analyze even "your enemy" as if they are what they are; real humans with opinions, feelings, beliefs, ect.
The other side? He's a veteran GOP politician not an Obersturmbahnfuhrer you quilt!
Pat Buchanan is an accomplished author, statesmen, and patriot. HE IS NOT AN ANTI SEMITE NOR A RACIST BY ANY MEANS!!!
I could not agree more. But you have to understand that the way the term "Conservative" is used in the British context is not saying much. Their "Conservatives" are only slightly more conservative than an American progressive. So anything further right wing of British conservatives in the UK is a considered a nazi.
Just the fact that you have to explain yourself on a matter that obvious is a pain to witness. You are by far one of the best historians I've ever heard/met/seen. Please continue doing what your're doing because you're an inspiration to many people. Love from Poland :)
Pat Buchanan is NOT a crackpot, he is simply not a woke liberal. Pat's views were pretty mainstream until the liberal resurgence of the late 1960s.
I like pat Buchanan
@Mars Attacks cringe centrist take.
You fear radicalism because you fear the change and progress.
You're a neocon because you want to preserve the status quo of those who rule over you (the elite)
Democracy is a lie.
Be radical, be strong be a man among men.
@Mars Attacks it was Great back then and it was beautiful.
People aren't happy when forced to live together this goes for everywhere, America is forcing itself to an imminent collapse.
That's why China and Russia aren't making any moves towards the "American Empire"
"Violence is not the answer its a question, and the answer is yes"-
Ghandi Destroyer of Worlds
The nuke isn't an option...it's a solution to peace.
Ghandi - peace lover and military enthusiast
"Rain nuclear fire on all civilizations" Gandhi - Sid Meier's Civilization
Do any of you three knows that gandhi had inappropriate relationship with his niece?
@@jesuschrist872 He was a CK3 player indeed
@@user_____M Do you know that gandhi had inappropriate relationship with his niece?
Labeling someone a racist hardly has any meaning. It's usually a baseless allegation designed to silence people you don't agree with.
As someone that takes a generally left wing socially and economically viewpoint I totally agree with TIKs comments here.
The authenticity of films like Downfall, books like the Last Battle etc would be completely absent without quoting sources that were either Nazis or Stalinist. So take your pick..
>Why I quote people you don't like.
But you don't? I have no reason to form a personal opinion of them. Now, if you wanted to quote someone that I disliked you'd be quoting some of my Marxist high school "friends" who basically get triggered when you argue things they don't agree with and can't have rational arguments.
Marxists are tired of ridiculing TIK. Check out FinBol and SocialistDemocrat's videos about him and then say "rational argument"))
Would you like the links?
"Check out FinBol and SocialistDemocrat's videos about him and then say "rational argument"))"
Yeah, I love their videos (sarcasm). Hilarious how irrational they are. SocialistDemocrat even 'divines' how I'm a Nazi because, obviously, he's able to talk to divine entities
@@TheImperatorKnight dear TIK, respond to central points of FinBol's video without ideological biases, without your religious beliefs in Friedman's economics. Ignoring one part of reality and forwarding another. We love your metaphysical thinking!)
"@TIK dear TIK, respond to central points of FinBol's video without ideological biases, without your religious beliefs in Friedman's economics. Ignoring one part of reality and forwarding another. We love your metaphysical thinking!)"
I did. I spent a significant portion of my 5 hour "Hitler's Socialism" video directly responding to his various points. That's partly why it was so long ruclips.net/video/eCkyWBPaTC8/видео.html
I didn't directly aim the video at him, because I don't want to give him any credit. Same with others who have criticized me. I don't answer them directly, I answer their arguments for the benefit of people who actually listen and want to learn.
And also, I'd don't "believe" in Friedman's economics.
Also, there's a reason I named the Hitler's Socialism video "Destroying the Denialist Counter Arguments"
I took the counter-arguments given to me, and I destroyed them.
Since then, the only counter I've got is that I don't know the "TRUE" definition of Socialism. But again, my critics ignore what I said in my Hitler's Socialism video, and distort/ignore my arguments in favour of denial and attacking my character. This is why they ignore this video ruclips.net/video/ksAqr4lLA_Y/видео.html
Buchanan being characterized as “sympathetic to Hitler” is a bit much. In the UK, it might even get you a defamation suit.
Göbbels was in favour of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin.
If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise.
Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech.
- Noam Chomsky
Free speech is Freemasonic. Free speech doesn't work in the real world. Left-leaning RUclips and Google proof my theory correct. Catholic church did the same in Ireland. I see no point in talking to my enemies who want kill to silence the White man.
@@BlackpilledBuddha6476 - Oh ffs leave it out, will you?
@@BlackpilledBuddha6476 so isolating yourself is the solution? Why should you agree with YT's shitty hate speech policies personally?
@@BlackpilledBuddha6476 As you've provided no evidence, it's technically a hypotheses, not a theory. On a grammatical basis you should have used prove, not proof. 0/10, try again.
It is totally legit to even quote Mao，so why not Pat Buchanan
maybe a video on "what is a Bias?". many people think it works only one way, and forget that if you don't see things from the "wrong" perspective too, it makes you biased the other way around.
I think I actually covered this in the History Theory video. But I could do a separate video specifically on bias
“A fine quotation is a diamond in the hand of a man of wit and a pebble in the hand of a fool.” - Joseph Roux
Understand the quotation, but in what context to do with the video?
@@aidankerrigan7117 Nothing, I found it online, like a fool with a pebble in his hand.
@@aidankerrigan7117 Though really, the point is that when using a quote in an educated and nuanced context, it can be an effective quote, whereas when misused, the quote can be incoherent and even harmful. A quotation, from this perspective, has no intrinsic value, but instead is valuable and futile depending on the individual and their usage of it. Thus, just because he quotes despicable people does not imply that he emulates what they say, but uses it to provide proper historical context.
That’s why I used the above quote.
@@theily1724 That's why I asked the question in what context? You've answered it. Thank you.
-"(...) So, use multiples sources from different perspectives. (...)". This sentence should be the leitmotiv of every historian who investigate for the true.
Seriously underrated channel, from the sheer effort put into your videos imo you should be sitting on at LEAST 750k, keep up the great work
This reasoning is why I stay subscribed. To do proper history requires understanding the viewpoints of others, including views that you disagree with (or even vehemently oppose). If you cannot understand, you cannot disagree.
Pat Buchanan is being proven more correct day by day.
Good points, well made. Seems sad that you have to state the bleeding obvious to people sometimes but so be it :D
The more people comment things like thinks, the more I consider my thoughts about humanity
This one of the most honest channels on youtube about history/war. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to learning more.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” Sun Tzu
After watching the video, it does not seem to present Buchanan as a specifically anti-Semitic source arguing what Hitler might have thought. Rather, it seems you use him as a general source, especially regarding the capacity of bombers
People might need to take into context the Cold War in trying to understand Pat Buchanan's comments about WWII.
Stop it you’re making too much sense
yeah there's a Communist under ever bed or behind every bush.
@Pep he was looking in all the wrong places
Not really, he started writing after he stopped working for Reagan and nixon and went on a crusade against bush. He was a reaction(some might say an overcorrection) to the neoconservative MonoParty warmongering of the 1990s and 2000s
You also have to understand America's interventions in the Middle East. WW2 has been used as a reason we should invade these countries. "We rebuilt Germany and Japan into democracies. We should do the same to Iraq and Afghanistan." Buchannan may have wanted to show that even this "good war" that was used as a reason for our intervention also had their problems.
Im a history major college dropout and i wish i had this video when i was in college to challenge the idiotic professors who marked me down when i quoted a source that was from a nut wing point of view. my professors were dumb.
The important thing is choosing when to use what source, and ask the source the right questions. Very true. The context is what matters. You could pretty much always publish two articles using the same sources, one in favor of and one against a theory, depending on what parts of a souce you choose based on the questions that you ask it.
Very good point. In fact, using different sources and sources that we neglected by older mainstream historians is what makes these videos interesting.
The fight you have to fight to remain legitimate is amazing..
Keep it up!
I appreciate that you use all sources, but to call Pat an anti-Semite and especially a Nazi is just ridiculous. He’s a devout Catholic, that’s his ideology, not Nazism.
"First seek to understand, rather than be understood."
"Here is what modern white supremacists and neo-nazis think about Adolf Hitler, in order to put this topic in perspective to the modern world, which is relevant to literally everyone watching this video"
"OMFG WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS DON'T YOU KNOW THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE RACISTS?!?!?!?"
"That's the fuckin point my dood"
Pat Buchanan is not an anti-Semitic crack-pot. Whomever said that is a left-wing partisan. Nationalism is not evil because Hitler was a nationalist. Grow up.
These wise words heal me! Finally someone who gets it!
That is what the Left does, they throw out falsehoods that their lemmings lap up.
Being accurate is not a popularity contest. History is as much ugly as it is beautiful. Both perspectives count.
Imagine getting upset over a historian using sources. Keep it up TIK, good on you.
Buchie is sympathetic to Hitla? Antisemitic? Since when? Rothbard was close to Buchanan, they agreed on antiwar and isolationism, but disagreed on trade and economics.
That is the way it was taught to me, as I studied history in university. But that was in the early 90´s, still the pre post modern era! :-D
It's definitely gone downhill since then. I had someone comment once saying that they didn't believe me about how bad the universities were... until they actually went to university and saw just how many of their professors were open Marxists.
@@TheImperatorKnight - There’s a famous economist by the name of Thomas Sowell. He said he was a Marxist while at university. He got a real job working for the Federal government and his views began to chamge. Everyone should read what he’s written and it should be taught in the schools.
I must say, its very entertaining watching TIK having to clarify the obvious in a video specifically for this purpose.
Its comedy gold. But also a sad reflection of education today.
Was about to comment about Pat Buchanan on the previous video and then remembered TIK’s approach to understanding the actors in history. Instead of simply dismissing opposite views to yours, you have to try and falsify them; otherwise, their point stands.
In the case of Pat Buchanan, you really cannot argue that FDR did not deliberately mislead American public opinion towards war with Germany. If Buchanan finds that to be a reason for Nazi sympathizing, we have plenty of proof Nazis are not the “good guys”. However, dismissing perfectly valid arguments just because it’s Pat frickin Buchanan making them is wrong.
Would a perfectly valid argument being made by a Nazi be wrong?
@@agentorange6085 Logically? No. But morally, it depends on you.
@@altaiaurelius When you said Roosevelt "deliberately mislead American public opinion," did you mean he deliberately lead them in the wrong direction, or that he lead them in the right direction by means of which you don't approve?
@@agentorange6085 I mean that he deliberately mislead the American public into increasing tensions with Germany when he could have actively worked to avoid it. Despite the USA sending lend lease to Britain against Germany with the idea that Germany couldn’t be allowed to take over the continent, by 1945 you had a Soviet-dominated Eastern Europe, even worse in geopolitical terms than a potential Nazi victory (not against the USSR but against Britain and France). I’m still of the opinion that the USA could have made a sincere effort to stay out of the European conflict rather than the two-faced “‘neutrality” in our timeline.
I don't believe Buchannan sympathizes with the Nazis, I think TIK was being unfair there. I just don't think he thought either world war was America's fight.
My motto is, you can never have enough information on anything, it's what you choose to do with that information that is important.
General Patton: “We defeated the wrong enemy".
And he was correct
That quote doesn't mean they weren't both enemies, FYI. Just that he viewed the Russian as the more pressing threat to kneecap. (Which was, as demonstrated by a mostly bloodless Cold War era escalation & the USA's eventual unilateral triumph that launched it to supreme world power for decades on end, incorrect.)
Anyone who views the modern, post-Soviet Russian state as a bigger threat to the USA than the Chinese or their German allies is bonkers, frankly.
@@Bingo_Bango_ The enemy is Communism. And Patton was right.
@@freeman8914 Communism fails. Neither the modern Russian state or the Chinese are Communists, and appeals to Communism and Socialism in the US have been superseded by a joint lobby of environmentalists and social humanists that demand total obsequies from society. Rail against a real enemy instead of jumping at ghosts.
Literally anyone who by the Nazis were named "Subhumans": "yeah... NO he was the right enemy"
Calling Pat Buchannan "sympathetic to Hitler" is a little nuts. He just favors US non-intervention, including both World Wars, and all the modern terror wars.
Not heard you quote Irving and if you have to defend using Pat Buchanan, a mainstream politician who served at least three American Presidents including Nixon for his term, then you have no chance on here. Its so sad how much politics has fouled our lives!
Buchanan is far from a mainstream politician. What planet do you live on?
Being a speech writer behind the scenes is not a "mainstream" gig.
Running a minority campaign of the extreme right against George Bush wasn't mainstream.
Running as an independent and receiving a pitiful amount of the vote isn't mainstream.
Hucking books to Cold War diehards and Neo-Confederates isn't mainstream.
When was he mainstream? When he was the token crackpot on The McLaughlin Group?
@@blaisevillaume2225 I'm not going to debate political ratings with you but this chap is a heavyweight GOP politician with counltss best selling books and service to 3 or more Presidents cabinets and does not require explaining to anyone, if you dislike his opinions tough shit kid it alters nothing...
@@DaveSCameron I see, you just don't understand what the word "mainstream" means and my comment must have gone completely over your head because it had nothing to do with my opinions about him. Keep that kid shit to yourself, little boy.
@@blaisevillaume2225 I bow to your superiour place and knowledge and should have been more aware than to have expected clarification, proceed and program.
Mr. Cameron, I fear that Pat Buchanan today is unpopular outside of populist circles. He probably won't get a fair review here, these folks being interested in legitimate historical study and Pat, of late, being interested in populism and its potential to delegitimize the Liberals. I doubt if TIK is invested in American politics, he just reads sources and doesn't parse them for political correctness. Buchanan wrote some usable things, but I think his thesis that the World Wars were unnecessary was a tautology inasmuch as very few wars were necessary. Irving wrote some great stuff early on. Cheers!
Pat Buchanan is a hero. A fighter for Liberty & Truth.
Anti-Tik group: *because you’re wrong*
Yet another good video. How are you today Tik?
"How are you today Tik?"
Tired... Stalingrad has eaten up all my time, and I'm not getting enough non-Stalingrad research done, so I'm falling behind. I'm reluctant to accept the fact that doing both Stalingrad (a LOT of work) and everything else (also a LOT of work) is not sustainable over the long term. One or the other has to give... But I don't want to accept this fact.
@@TheImperatorKnight We're patient, and won't panic if you have to slow the tempo. Your quality of work has aged well, and that's what makes you so awesome. We've got yer back!
Be kind to yourself tik
@@TheImperatorKnight Don't worry TIK, zere iz a solution to your sleeping troublez, the mighty Pervitin xD
@@TheImperatorKnight Keep up the good work for as long as you can on You Tube. I watch other people who are wary of ending up being banned from it. If it happens to you. I will stop using Google. I have already deleted myself from Facebook and Twitter because of their ultra left wing, Globalist, crony Capitialist Silicon Valley, nerdy censorship and am staying on You Tube for you. I know you have alternative channels and will sign on now.
it's remarkable how so many people still don't understand this basic fact about understanding perspectives....... Well said sir.
I actually like Buchanan he actually isn't a crackpot he just favors a restrained foreign policy and avoiding entanglements. He also isn't an anti semite or racist.
OMG EXACTLY!
I love you man! Finally a true historian who knows what he's doing!
That's the whole point of being an historian, we don't just judge people or past events based on our current bias nor give our personal opinions about the events. We simply state what happened from a neutral point of view taking into account all the perspectives necessary. The more sources from multiple biases, the more accurate we would get to the truth, because no doubt it's somewhere there in the middle.
Buchanan’s not a anti-Semite
I mean he argued Treblinka was not a death camp, despite the fact that nearly a million jews were murdered there. Sounds like something that fuck nucket David Irving would say
@@arwing20 Technically you can deny the Holocaust and not necessarily hate Jews on the basis of their race/ethnicity. The term anti Semite has become among the most abused in the modern English language at this point
@@arwing20 I’ve heard Buchanan speak on WW2 quite a bit and he’s no Hitler apologist. He just points out the foolish policies of the western powers towards Germany and that Stalin was arguably worse than Hitler so working with him was morally bankrupt. Idk exactly what he said about Treblinka, but I’m pretty sure it’s an old quote he’s never denied millions of Jews were murdered. I’d listen to Buchanan talk about WW2 before you call him an “anti-Semite” he did a bunch of interviews for his Churchill Hitler and the Unnecessary War book.
@@arwing20 "The point is considerably more general. Denial of monstrous atrocities, whatever their scale, does not in itself suffice to prove that those who deny them are racists vis-a-vis the victims. I am sure you agree with this point, which everyone constantly accepts. Thus, in the journal of the American Jewish Congress, a representative of ASI writes that stories about Hitler’s anti-gypsy genocide are an “exploded fiction.” In fact, as one can learn from the scholarly literature (also Wiesenthal, Vidal-Naquet, etc.), Hitler’s treatment of the gypsies was on a par with his slaughter of Jews. But we do not conclude from these facts alone that the AJC and ASI are anti-gypsy racists. Similarly, numerous scholars deny that the Armenian genocide took place, and some people, like Elie Wiesel, make extraordinary efforts to prevent any commemoration or even discussion of it. Until the last few years, despite overwhelming evidence before their eyes, scholars denied the slaughter of some 10 million native Americans in North America and perhaps 100 million on the [South American] continent. Recent studies of US opinion show that the median estimate of Vietnamese casualties [resulting from the Vietnam War] is 100,000, about 1/20 of the official figure and probably 1\30 or 1\40 of the actual figure. The reason is that that is the fare they have been fed by the propaganda apparatus (media, journals of opinion, intellectuals, etc., “scholarship,” etc.) for 20 years. We (at least I) do not conclude from that fact alone that virtually the whole country consists of anti-Vietnamese racists. I leave it to you to draw the obvious analogies.
In these and numerous other cases, one needs more evidence before concluding that the individuals are racists. Thus in the case of Wiesel, it is quite likely that he is merely following the instructions of the Israeli government, which doesn’t want Turkey embarrassed. In short, denial of even the most horrendous slaughter does not in itself establish the charge of racism, as everyone agrees. Since that is obvious and undeniable, one naturally questions the motives of those who deny the truism selectively, and produce charges such as those you relay."
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If Pat Buchanan is a crack-pot nazi why is he a regular commentator on the left-wing government funded PBS tv network show the McLaughlin Group? He's actually what's known as a paleo-conservative. He's against stupid foreign wars unlike Obama, Biden & Clinton who helped destroy Libya & Syria. The people who hate Pat Buchanan are the same types who revere Che Guevara & dream of the return of the Soviet Union & sundry other communist tyrannies.
I don't always agree with you but I will never question your integrity. You go right two primary sources and bring up things that no one really wants to hear. But they should want to hear. Everything you do is invaluable. Keep it up.
Way too many sheltered weak mined spoiled children in the world today.
and i fear that 90% of them were educated right here in the us
Pat Buchanan is hardly a far right or white supremacist nut, and his book on the "Unnecessary War" was very well researched. The fact that he points out ignored or downplayed aspects of the war or shed light on errors in British judgement and Soviet duplicity makes him targets of the Left. Pat is a civil nationalist, a respected paleo-conservative, non-interventionist and free market guy.
I cant believe you actually had to tell people this. How sad. My view of The Masses remains bleak. Most folks' comprehension skills are woefully lacking. I apologize if this view makes me sound elitist. But it's people like this that vote for high political offices. When they arn't watching the Kardashians.
The Masses (at least the US variety) are results of the US educational system, which is literally designed to produce good factory workers, not critical thinkers. Why do you think everything is so boring and monotonous, especially when it comes to history? It's memorizing names, dates, and places for a test and then can promptly forget that information once the test is over with. This absolutely absurd stressed importance on testing is what's produced this lack of comprehension and critical thinking. Which is also why they choose to blank out with trashy tv and mind-numbing substances. They absolutely hate their lives, their souls have been ground into nothingness probably by the time they even reached high school, and they literally cannot drag themselves out of that hole because they've never had that opportunity to develop critical thinking skills. And then if they have had those chances to break out of 'name dates places' numbness, they're stuck in dead-end jobs that are completely pointless just to try and scrounge enough money to even survive on and most of the time failing to do that because cost of living has massively outpaced wage increases and what little extra they do find themselves with they blow out on new phones or expensive things just to give themselves a brief moment of happiness and joy in the massive gray fog of their lives. (horrifically huge run on sentence, but oh well it's the train of thought)
It makes you sound elitist in the point of judging them for not wanting to deal with the reality of the giant mess of a flaming dumpster fire (ie, trashy tv and voting practices) and them going 'oh well like it's any different from everything else' because they've been taught and groomed all their lives to see that living in the flaming dumpster fire is the *only option* available. They can't see the bucket of water, and even if they did, they don't even begin to know how to at least fix it - and thanks to this perfectionist streak that's been baked into society, it's all or nothing. If you can't get it absolutely perfect, don't bother.
I'd want to ignore it all too. Do I facepalm frequently and want to rail against some of The Masses and ask what's going on in their heads? Absolutely. But I can also grasp things from their point of view - just the way TIK was saying that if you want to know what a nazi was thinking, you have to read a nazi. If you want to know why The Masses are doing this, you need to look at The Masses and all factors contributing to them.
@@aislin2989 Ok.
LOL! Sorry, its just that your response was so long I had to reply with marked brevity. I love humor, hope you do too. In any case, you make some valid points. And wonderfully long run-on sentences as well! lol
I can see that you are passionate in your opinions. As am I... a former factory worker. ;-)
@@billd.iniowa2263 lol nah I get it. Brevity is indeed wittiness! (I'm more a fan of absolutely terrible puns myself. The more I steam at a pun is the more I love it.)
Yeah, I have a really bad habit of forming gigantic run-on sentences/paragraphs from the train of thought process to make sure I get everything down. It's not until I go back over it that I realize that I just put so many words into one sentence.
I do also get super passionate about looking at factors that contribute to historical events - nothing exists in a vacuum outside of a lab (even 'vacuum of space' is a misnomer!) so we really do have to look at every contribution.
@@aislin2989 Oh no, you didnt just say "Pun" did you?! I LOVE punnery! Thats just how eye roll. (Which, coincidentally, is the greatest pun ever devised.) :-D
@@billd.iniowa2263 ohhh that's a good one. I have to maintain that 3RACHA (3 members of the K-pop group Stray Kids) is one of the best ones I've seen. (In transliteration 'three' turns into something more like 'shri' in Korean... Sriracha. I'm still so inordinately mad at that pun lol)
Those comments are just a reflection of the mentality of the public nowadays. You cannot even state the reasoning of those you do not agree with even in an attempt to point out their flaws, just silence all thoughts not in line with your own.
Pat Buchanan is not an antisemite. Effing ridiculous.
Isn't he? That's what I was told
Ryungun Rie Lol, nice try, man🤣
@@TheImperatorKnight No, he isn't. He is a paleoconservative who is against big government and foreign intervention. Only raging leftists who paint him as some white supremacist because it serves their political ends.
@@TheImperatorKnight you didn't check then?
@@TheImperatorKnight The charge of antisemitism is based in smaller part on his belief that Hitler was driven first by geopolitical motivations rather than animus towards the Jews, and much moreso his disdain for Zionism: actual Zionism, US intervention in the middle east to assert the independence of Israel, not the conspiratorial kind.
In recent years, American Democrats have adopted the view that the Israeli lobby is oppressing the Middle East and preventing the US from supporting Palestine themselves, but they're very rarely accused for being bigots for it.
Edit: Pat Buchanan is actually pretty important to US politics in this regard; after he was "made an example of" it went several decades before anyone of either political party was willing to speak out against perceived or real Israeli interests in US politics again. In very recent years, AIPAC has been vocally criticized for perpetuating and funding campaigns against anyone who besmirched US-Israel relations as an "antisemite" as an attempt to stifle future criticism, an accusation which some affiliated with the AIPAC have referred to as an antisemitic canard (hilariously enough). Foreign Policy In Focus writer Stephen Zunes tackled this back in 2006. It's a good read and focuses on how it's more a soft-power and cultural problem than AIPAC being all-powerful, and how military industrialists have benefited from the arrangement.
After reading some of Buchannan's columns, one is struck by his grasp of consequentialism, identifying stumbling blocks to national interests and the historical roots of both.
His book on Churchill and the Unnecessary War is on my list to buy already.
Irving can never be a source - He lost a case as a defendant for denying the Holocaust, in Britain.
Buchanan an anti-Semite though? This is one of those lines that's thrown out there because someone heard he was ... I've never seen any proof of it though. Then again we'd need to agree on a definition of what constitutes an anti-semite.
In the United States WW2 is portrayed as an example of a good and just war. Since 1945 its part of our mythology. However, as time goes on and one looks back at the past a lot of myths of the war are put to the test. Some pass and some fail.
Pat Buchanan is a good guy.
Love this. The biggest problem facing the United States right now is that people refuse to listen to both sides of any discussion. They want to erase any facet of history that maybe in conflict with what they want to perceive as correct.
Getting an opinion different then their own hurts a lot of people's feefee's. As I type this 23 feefee's were hurt watching this video.
"To those who believe, no proof is necessary. To those who disbelieve, no proof is possible."
U gonna have to repeat this several more times.
The need will never end.
I find it tragic that anyone who has received even a primary education does not understand this.
This guy singlehandedly kicks Time Ghost History's ass. No mealy mouthed relativism, no weasel words or meek apologies to the mob, just an even keeled, no shit taken approach with boatloads of primary sources.
For the reasons above, you'll probably love tomorrow's video 😂 I think most won't, but I don't care
"apologies to the mob." You just exposed this video for what it is. Weak, stupid RUclipsr drama dressed up as a debate. TIK's really lost the plot.
@@BrorealeK I really don't give a shit if you have nothing substantive to say beyond tired old schoolyard insults.
@TIK My high school history teacher told me to better understand history that I should read as many viewpoints as possible because history is written by the victors.
You are doing just that. (I do the same thing.) WELL DONE! Carry on!
Pat Buchanan is Not a right wing nut. And he's most certainly not a Nazi.
For instance, I sometimes disagree with your economic ideas. But, I love listening to it because it provides useful perspective and expands my knowledge overall.
You present your viewpoints very well and it’s all logically presented. I can disagree with you, but I can also listen and use it to expand my personal knowledge and understanding of economic theory.
Thanks for the video TIK, wishing you a Happy New Year.
We live in such an Age of Unreason, that clarificationary videos like this have to exist :-| .
Och well: more TIK content for the rest of us :D .
We certainly do. The importance of allowing unpopular or contentious voices to speak is as contemporary as it gets.
Using authors that confirm our own biases and are socially approved is EXACTLY where we are headed in the USA. You can thank social views grounded in "Conflict Theory" for that.
But I like Pat Buchanan
That's ok bud! Nobody is perfect and we all have room to grow.
Then please share with us your opinion of why Hitler declared war on Germany... (just want to be sure).
@@agentorange6085 I don’t think Hitler declared war on Germany unless I don’t know something. I don’t know why Hitler declared war on the US, it’s not really something I read Buchanan’s opinion on
"How DARE you quote far-right people while trying to understand the mentality of the far right! You should quote everyone EXCEPT the far right while trying to understand the far right" - Idiots that lack critical thinking skills and think everybody else does too. I guess "Know thy enemy" is defunct in modern scholarship.
If you use the Communist Manifesto as a source that makes you a Communist 😆
This is such an undervalued point in history, and in researching/sourcing in general. Understanding the views of those you disagree with, is paramount to expanding ones own base of knowledge, otherwise, we just dig our heels in deeper to our own biases, regardless of whether or not we admit to having them.
TIK coming into 2021 with the best free speech argument
Remember Pat Buchanan blaming Churchill for WWII. Those poor, innocent Germans.
Unnecessary, he worded politely. I blame the Swedes.
It's sad that we live in a world where something as basic as this needs to be explained, the worlds' IQ has dropped so much in recent times.
"the worlds' IQ has dropped so much in recent times"
The number of dummies was always the same. But technology enabled them to enter the debate as equals.
The issue is that they didn't enter the debate as equals... They don't debate! Their idea of a debate is an emotional outburst! And that's obviously not what a debate is ☹️
It's not necessarily that IQ dropped, it's poor teachers who are ideologically driven. The miseducation system is the problem more than anything else
This is why I love your videos. Because the truth is not only uncovered in the people that we respect.
when you are giving opinions about unpopular folks you need to quit Stalin
I read that as "quit stalling" for some reason XD.
Wholly agree though.
@@jimtaylor294 it was also meant to be read as such
What are your thoughts on Churchill, Hitler, and the Unneccessary War? I think its good that Buchanan challenges the narrative surrounding Churchill, and tries to sympathize with the enemy, but Buchanan's misunderstanding of Hitler and defense of nazi ideology makes him incredible.