The Back And Forth Between Sol & Anele Mdoda On Twitter | MONDAY EPISODE
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If Sol had spoken about it before or after it would be irrelevant. The timing was spot on.
Sol is politely raising a valid point but others won’t understand because of their privileged backgrounds.
Sol has a point, invest more in learner’s education to have more beautiful stories like this one.
Agreed
Sol definitely has a point
AGREED!
Sol always has a point ❤
How
Both Sol and Anele are making good points. Sol's timing was off on this one though.
Definitely perfect timing. Access to resources plays a huge role
I'm with Sol because if we say his timing is wrong then when should he bring his point up, 6 months later, no there's no such thing as wrong timing.
True
I disagree.
Sol is making a good point but he should have let the A student have her moment.
We can't always be turning every celebration into a cry for the ones that didn't make it. Sometimes we must just celebrate, clean with no extras things - no guilt or feeling sorry somehow.
Siyacelebrata nje.
Sol knows what he meant, he is just being defensive@@maneli3769
@lol Sol is also celebrating and acknowledgeing her achievement maneli3769
@@maneli3769Sol has a good point, he didn't the kid should not be celebrated. And then if this was the wrong time for the topic, when is the right time?
Sol's mind is on another level bayeke abakuzwa
Sold is right. Especially because her Dad has the power to improve the lives of other youths.
I am not surprised they do not get Sol's point and I am happy he is not trying to convince him, it is above their level of understanding these things.
Am really with Sol there cos imagine if schools in the rural areas for example had everything like the kids in private schools we would see that everyday.
Agree with Sol👏👏👏Theres no bad timing! 💁♂ Ghost lady must work on her examples!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's rare that public schools excel, as their success often depends on the support and resources available. For instance, the top student in South Africa hails from a Western Cape public school. However, during her interview, she emphasized receiving a significant amount of support.
Sol has a great point and it was the right platform and time, as what time would have been perfect???
They said 'next week', s if a Alostro won't be trending the following week and having this convo swept under the carpet. His timing was spot on! Real convos in real time.
Like bra?? Wtf… now Sol mustnt try and save the rest of the kids just because one person should be Celebrated at that moment, if the young girl won’t feel celebrated then someone needs to school her about the country she lives in and why Sol did what he did.
But the father is a politician and what better time to remind ourselves that if we vote right and put people who will prioritise best schools with resources...
Her father is not a politician, he governor of reserve bank
I like Sol's way of thinking. It reminds me of some wise man who once said "You can't instill a poor man's mindset in a rich man"
Time was right to raise the issue, the girl is privileged and that obviously played a role
He has , Sol is addressing one of the biggest elephant in the room
Truthe hurts!
I'm with Sol on this. You can't say it was not the right time for him to say what he said. Like he said, it sparked a thought in him that time and hence the tweet.
Sol has a point. His timing was perfect
Sol always displays superior logic😂😂😂harrdy to Anele, MacG, Ghost lady
They basically feel like Sol is stealing the kid's moment by politicizing her results at the time he did. But the truth is, the only time it would be wrong to raise that argument would be at her award ceremony. Sol was right to raise it, because it's the truth and it's absolutely important that we keep raising it.
It’s just facts that kids growing up in 2 parent households have a faaaar better chance of succeeding. The research is cut and dry which is not debatable. It is also facts that children from upper middle income to high income households have the best opportunity to have high earners.
Omg stfu! When was thay study done? I need time and date. I'm from a single parent home amd I'm doing well, very well for myself. I have friends with similar background and they doing very well. Then I have other people I know who grew up in a 2 parent home and they are bums...
Macg and Ghost lady are trying too hard to win against Sol and they won't😂🤣😂.
The interesting thing is that ghost lady and macG themselves come from privilege. Theres never a right time to raise a discussion about uncomfortable issues in our community
Yes they won’t understand Sols point, but they chose to be defensive about.
Sol has a point ❤
Sol hasb a very valid point...The new democracy in South Africa is really enjoyed by a few...Saying you are dimming the childs light is speaking from privilege...its like saying anything about starving people in SA is a not a valid point to make on Christmas day...lets enjoy the dinner and forget those who dont have...language of privilege...this conversation is relevant at any time because the girls results show what can be done with a working education and living standard....
💯💯💯
Sol was spitting facts here! I even tweeted this
The argument that there are other black kids also getting A's is part of Sols argument, for those kids to get the same mark, they have more to deal with, and that shouldn't be the case, not every kid will be as resilient, so many more fall by the wayside. My niece goes to the same exact "privileged" school that I went to, But I had to travel from extremely far via taxi's just to attend there, I woke up at 5AM and got home at 7PM after taking part in the compulsory 2 extra mural activities that the school makes you do, then have to do the same amount of homework as everyone else, no exceptions, that is extremely difficult when you don't have both parents and Gogo cant even understand what's on the school circular, let alone check your homework. My niece on the other hand lives 5 minutes away from that school since my sister moved up, Both parents work, mom comes home early and always sits with them during homework time. What were saying is that that the girl who got 8 A's is a model black student, who grew up in an Ideal situation, that was conducive for her success, and as an idea, it would nice for more black kids to came from the same situation. That's' not to take away from her hard work.
You put it well.
My question to everyone is: should we be having this conversation almost every time that an A student is being celebrated? Can't we celebrate without feeling sorry for the ones that didn't make it?
Sol nailed it.👌🏾
I am 💯 with Sol. This a critical issue which affect millions of kids. A small improvement in their school resources would have an improfound impact. This was the opportunity to contrast privillage and the timing was absolutely spot on.
Sol is right and all of you are against him because it's Anele who challenged him.We got you Solomon 😂
Sol is 💯. Anele catched feeling😅
She wants to trend that one
Sol is highly intelligent & does not brag about it👏👏👏
I think he does lol… he’s so smart that he knows how not to be obvious about it 😅
Sometimes I don’t understand Ghost Lady’s thought process. 💀 khanda ngathi liqinile.
ka khulu😅
Lowo yena usangene serious sthru, i don't understand either and she is getting worse by episode 🤔
@@obakengmnguni5azithathi kahle ekhanda lakhe 😂😂
He is definitely right, your environment is crucial to growth and development. It’s NOT the only factor that leads to success but it makes a difference, for sure
Bro Sol has a valid point, and the timing is perfect.
Good point Sol, this child probably had a private tutor since she started school, the environment has been conducive since day one compared to a kid coming from impoverished village, with limited access to resources, who is still worried about where the next meal will come from.
I don't understand the complications, Sol said something that makes sense that's all. What's the debate about honestly.
Why can't we just celebrate without feeling sorry somehow is what's being debated.
Celebrations were in order first, that doesn't mean it can't evoke any other thought. And so when you do have that thought it does mean you can't share your opinion about it. Otherwise then let's all be robots.
But I do get your point
😢Sol. Someone has to be really difficult in their thinking not to understand what you're saying. The problem is us black middle class think we are exceptional when we should be highlighting exactly what you are pointing out. I don't know about timing because they must just tell you when you should and could have said it. Congrats must be sent to the governor's child. We reiterate that as a society we should strive to ensure that more black kids are afforded access and a conducive environment in order to excel. Thank you for not postponing that input, the fact that we are engaging now means an elevated sense of consciousness to both our struggles and our achievements. Black people always want to see the Siya Kolisi type story when it comes to us black people where we have to suffer almost to the point of death and then make it out of that mess forgetting that with White people, the environment and access to resources is what makes 60% of them successful.
Solomon 😂 nailed it, very eloquent .
As always... Phenduka gives mind blowing facts... big up bro! Bua wena Sol, I'm here for your wisdom.
Sol has a POINT...... people need to stop speaking from a privilege stand..... because they wouldn't get it....
Sol has a point here. We cannot ignore what he said.
Anele misunderstood Sol
Us the intellectuals, got you Sol. You don't need to explain yourself ebile❤😂
Sol is a good element to this show.
True if sol was non this show it would be irrelevant 😭
There is never a bad time to express your views, I think they others guys aren't aware how they are creating an atmosphere of self censorship, with how they are censoring Sol.
The Reserve Governor's kid is a good person to make that example on, she is the direct contrast of many children in South Africa and also an example of what could be possible if things were done right.
Good one Sol
Only the privileged ones care about timing, those who get comfort when others are silenced by a selected privileged few getting ahead as a representative of the lot. Mxm, It is time for activism every time and all the time, Sol is on the money.
I wasn't privileged but I can see that his timing was off. Sometimes we want to celebrate without turning the celebration into a cry for those that didnt make it. Let's celebrate nje without feeling sorry about something, nice and clean nje, icelebration.
timing was perfect. It forced a conversation most want to avoid. All parents want all their children to be successful, while celebrating the wins of one child.
Some kids when they come back from school they have to play "parent" by fetching their younger siblings from crèche, look after them, also make supper for everyone coming back from work. I know this firsthand.
Sol has a valid point and his timing was impeccable!
Sol had a point Anele caught feelings. 🤣
Sol had a point. People are hypersensitive over nothing.
3:47 SOL ITS THE RIGHT TIME . DONT LISTEN TO EVERYONE 😭😭😭
Sol raised a valid point at the perfect time. It's not that sensitive or deep. Think about how this conversation now continues because he hit the right time.
there's no such thing as good timing for conversations , they are sparked spontaneously
I'm with Sol also on this one cause honestly we can't ignore what poverty does to our communities most kids couldn't finish school because of poverty they had to worry about they're next meal whether it was the right time or not this needed to be said.
He's speaking fact and the was no need for debate in what he said 🤞🏿
I feel like there's two extremes to this (Kids who against all odds do well, and kids whose situations are better for them to thrive). I agree with Sol and I want to add that there are kids who if had the resources and a better environment which is condusive, would achieve better academic success.
Okay. Who's responsibility is it, primarily, to create the environment for the kids to thrive?
I agree with the point he's making but his timing could have been better.
Essentially what I think he is getting at is the government improving the life of the average south african's basic living conditions and providing resources to have an environment where the average student has an environment to thrive in academically eg No loadshedding during exams, learning data, there's access to food and water and etc) Those are some examples. Because think of how tough it must be to study with a candle, or an empty stomach or shortage of a resource @@maneli3769 And yes there are students naturally gifted to thrive in those conditions but some students get hindered by those conditions
Another example, a student in terrible conditions passes okay enough to go to varsity and when they live in RES their academic performance shoots all the way up because they don't have to worry about all the things that hindered their performance and have a bursary like NSFAS giving food allowance and etc @@maneli3769
If not now when? You did well Sol
I do not think Sol was trying to take the shine away from the girl. in fact, Sol is emphasizing how nice it would be if an average black child was included and the government actually got their act right. It is perfect timing considering his input. I feel like when people read Sol's tweet in their heads they misinterpreted him.
I am with Sol on this one
Yea his got a point
Ghost lady 💀. Sol is in the right!
Sols timing is very much perfect
This was relevant and the timing was spot on!!!!
Sol you are a good man no cap😭😭♥️♥️♥️ and you are very smart what you said is very valid no cap
I am with Sol on this one.
There's no ryt time to raise a revolutionary idea...sol is ryt
Sol I stand with you 100%
Sol u are right.
Sol speaking facts
Sol is abSOLutely correct
Sol’s point triumphs. We must never forget that this is not even close to being a norm. It remains exceptional experiences and achievements even in 2024!
If now is not the right time when is? It’s the perfect time to call out bs! Privileged people don’t like it when you tell the truth!
It's interesting to consider Anele's experience in relation to Sol's point. While she didn't achieve distinctions, she has built a successful career, suggesting that academic achievement alone may not be the sole indicator of future success. This raises the question of why some individuals with diverse educational backgrounds, including public school teachers, might choose private schooling for their children. Exploring these motivations helps us understand the complexities of educational choices and their long-term impact.
Sol is right. That was the right time
Sol we support you bro the timing was perfect
Sol, your timing is right. The points you are bringing forward are relevant and uttered at the correct time. Feelings aside, we need to say what needs to said to get where we aspire to be
Sol has a point and there is never a better time when he said it. Spot on. Keep it up Sol!!👌🏾
Ay Ghost lady is missing the point. Sol is simply saying, if all more black kids had access to adequate resources we would have more black kids excelling in their studies. That takes nothing away from the young achiever. And I think Sol's timing was perfect. Had it been any other time his would not have drawn this much attention.
People need to relax yhoo.. Sol I am with you.
Well it is true resources are everything. No one just excels out of nowhere, discussion about resources should always pop up at every opportunity instead of brushing it under the rug. Otherwise if we follow ghost and macg logic then there will never be a good time to discuss it.
When is the right time Mc G and Ghost lady?
Exactly.
You're missing Sol's viewpoint. He appreciates & celebrates the kid's achievement but is saying to those in power, can you see what can be achieved by deprived kids if they can have access to adequate resources? The focus is on access to resources. When kids from poorly resourced schls got distinctions, we did say, 'imagine their achievement had they had access to resources'. Why this noise now? Thanks Sol for raising the plight of rural schools
Thanks sol u nailed it
Completely agree with Sol here, one should never leave what must be done today for tomorrow.
They are wrong for telling him "the timing was wrong." He sparked a great and interesting valid debate.
Anele did not read that well, did she even hear the point though?
Money, and access to resources improve your chances of academic success. Look at every cohesive examination run by any country. It’s always the private schools with more money n resources that achieve better results. Its everywhere. This is the right time because no one cares about exams outside of this time.
Opinions don't have time. That's why we have all these social media platforms to express how we feel. Sol is right and I back home on this. The government has screwed us a million times over and more stories this those are supposed to be told. Not just one...
His timing was perfect. Had he spoken about it later on it wouldn't have carried so much weight.. Why are others pressed
I've been preaching Sol's sentiment. If government school has the same resources IEB such results would be a norm. We have kids achieve such results from the lowest quantile schools, now imagine if more average communities will be singing the same tune
Solomon has a point
I'm with Sol on this one. Something must spark a conversation, and it was this particular incident. If he had mentioned this issue another time, it wouldn't have been relevant. He also makes a valid point. If more Black kids got the same kind of support and access to resources, we'd have EVEN MORE stories of this nature, not that there aren't already stories of Black kids doing well in Matric.
Nah, MacG and Ghost 👻 are mistaken, this is a perfect time to discuss this.
The government is creating a state where it is difficult for poor people to make it.
The apartheid example was even broader for them to understand Sol's point but they still failed to understand 😢
Am with Sol here, he is right... The idea of saying timing is was not good, does this mean when someone post something we just need to say congrats qhaaa even though it trigger some notion to raise? Nhaaa... Danko Sol
If every kid went to a well-resourced school and had a private tutor for every subject they'd score higher than coming from a poor background, regardless of the IQ level
Timing is everything
Facts 😂
No better time to raise the concern, also not taking away the outstanding achievements by 2023 Matric learners
Ndiyakuva Sol...
Ay Sol ubhedile mfanakithy…Timing yakho iwrong