Stephen A. & Shannon Sharpe DEBATE whether C.J. Stroud is the NFL MVP! | First Take
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Dan Orlovsky and Shannon Sharpe join Molly Qerim to talk through C.J. Stroud’s stellar start to the season.
0:00 Shannon’s recent thoughts
1:30 Is Stroud the current MVP?
5:30 Shannon’s thoughts
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Only 2 picks on the season and it's not like he's dinking and dunking. He's taking deep shots downfield and just plays with sheer confidence
And it’s not like he has D-Hop or Andre Johnson as his weapons. Not saying their patriots level bad but it’s not like Hill or Waddle or Chase and Higgins
If God before me who shall be against me?? Texans for sure in a good place with CJ
@@iam.driizzy97 I just hope he has a career and not a one year wonder
@@nick94nwyeah I hope so too but what I’m seeing there is no way it’s a one year wonder this is a dude that’s gonna be throwing for 4,000 yards 30 td’s minimum for the next 15 years Texans got one. And on top he’s personality dude is only gonna get better.
Lovie winning the last game of the season turned out to be a blessing in disguise
This kid got potential to be a better quarterback for the Texans then deshaun Watson did and that’s saying alot
He is definitely more talented than Deshaun as a pocket passer. I will put him on the level of burrow and Mahomes throwing from the pocket.
@@salladiallo9766omg 😂😂😂😂😂
@@RoscoeButtocks why u laughing fool ?
@@salladiallo9766you just talking now smh.
No doubt
He's right the fact that there's no clear mvp favorite anybody can win it
All for Mahomes to catch fire after the bye and win the mvp
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@@suggestedtigerr1151 ?
All for lamar jackson to catch fire
@@Renegade-kf8fp😂😂 sike lamar jackson buddy
Stroud is unbelievable. Texans finally found their QB
*their
They’ire *
Oh-io
There QB? Where’s QB?
Finally broke the Ohio State QB curse
As a 49ers fan, man i miss Demeco Ryans, but so happy for him. Crazy how quick the turnaround has been for Houston
And not just in football... Rockets are off to a 6-3 start and just took down the defending champs after multiple seasons of being the NBA's doormat.
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@@suggestedtigerr1151
Amen 🙏
@@nahor88
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He’s remarkable. Glad Houston found a true foundation to build on. Stay healthy young man. Your future is bright.
if CJ Stroud can win couple more games and make the playoffs GIVE HIM ROOKIE OF THE YEAR AND MVP
Facts🤘🏽
And he will 😤😤
He just made the playoffs!!!!
This conversation is proof that we should drop all pretense and call "MVP award" the "Best QB Award"
Exactly because AJ Brown and Tyreek Hill should be MVP front runners. CJ Stroud’s numbers are pretty average in comparison to other pure QBs from recent previous years
@@dimitrisbright9807look without a good QB the receivers cant feast the entire offense other than maybe the run game cant do anything without the most important player (QB) being good
@@dimitrisbright9807His numbers are far above average even compared to the previous pure passers from recent years.
@@dimitrisbright9807average ???
he is literally breaking records left and right and putting the best ever season by a rookie QB through 10 weeks
@@hamedismaeal1288 The operative term is he’s breaking records set by ROOKIE QBs, not all time QBs
can we not forget what RG3 did his rookie year. OROY, pass rtg 102.4, 3,200 pass yds, 20 TDs, 5 int. c’mon now.
We’re not forgetting it, but going into week 11 for this season CJ Stroud is on pace to crush those numbers.
Stroud will beat those numbers in 2 games
He dam near got those stats now and oroy is already in the bag
What's crazy is how steady he is. That's what elevates him, in my eyes. Rookies aren't supposed to play with veteran level poise. That's why Joe Burrow shocked the league with how calm, cool, and collected he was and how immediately he made that clear. Stroud is fun to watch and I agree that above any other player on any other team, his value is paramount.
I am so so so glad that Dan was the quarterback of the 2008 lions. His personality fits that team like a GLOVE.
when I saw him play Georgia in the semis I was blown away. Took a stacked Georgia to the brink. Showed great mobility which had been a knock on him along with good accuracy. Which blows my mind that scouts clearly overthought him as a prospect and began creating narratives and over analyzing. He’s a great and humble guy to lead a franchise. What a fun story Stroud and the Texans are this year
Yeah I thought the same and peoples forget that Marvin Harrison Jr got hurt during the game also, if he never got hurt, they probably beat Georgia and win the national championship
Future is bright for Stroud. Stroud finally revived Sundays for us Houston Texans fans
I always thought C.J was that guy, even in college. He was definitely the #1 pick
I think his draft stock got hindered with the common pretense of "Ohio State QBs never make great NFL QBs."
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Glad to see my Texans getting some love ❤️
MVP conversation is wide open so almost everybody can be in it.
Yep
Agreed but it’s hard to not say Stroud is at least top 3 for MVP . As a rookie he looking better then some superstars
@@ThaDankGodman before this week, Tua was #1 in yds, #1 in tds, #1 in rating, #1 in passing EPA, #2 in yards per attempt- Tua should be clear cut rn
@@michaelmontoya4013yup
@@michaelmontoya4013but who is more valuable to their team though is the question 🤷
"CJ Stroud's precision on the field is nothing short of MVP-worthy. Every throw feels like him wanting to take his team father than before, weaving success for the team. A true player helping his team achieve victory! 🏈🔥 #CJStroudMVP
As a Jags fan here is the scary thing to me we have T-Law and he has been good consistently improving year to year but with Stroud being at this level already and Anthony Richardson looking pretty good before he got injured T-Law could end up being the 3rd best QB in the division we really need to sure up our offensive line to give T-Law a chance
need to do that immediately. last year yall had the brightest quarterback. this year not so much. get everything right and hopefully trevor can play better
Great comment
Maybe second QB Anthony got some things to check off before he’s better than TL
Like Rich got injured 3 times in like 6-7 weeks. 😊
Im a jags fan to bro but he’s not going to be the third best in the divisions I I support the colts to but no bro Trevor Lawerence is still the best QB on the divisions we proven it already C.J Stroud and hopes AR will be healthy next season to see more
@@khalilscott3921CJ is going to be a problem for jax
As a Panthers fan I want to throw up right now. Most of the fans here wanted CJ but our owner got in the way and now we are screwed. CJ was the obvious pick.
Oh well back to mediocrity
It’s not so bad. Just don’t pull an Arizona Cardinals and worst case scenario he’ll be traded in 2-3 years 😂.
It’s a all time bad trade. DJ Moore, basically Jalen Carter, a top 3 pick next year & passed on Stroud
Nah the o line is back give him about a year he will be ok but I’m glad we got cj 😅
It obviously looks bleak but remember that 2016 draft. Wentz had success early while Goff struggled until Mcvay got there. Now look at them.
Everything they said in the segment is so true. Respect to all of them especially Shannon. He went even deeper. Pause. Go Texans!!!!
It’s not clear as of yet but the fact that his in that conversation as a rookie is remarkable
The thing I like most is he not scared to throw a deep ball
Man as a Carolina fan this one is gonna hurt forever. Just like the hornets giving away Kobe. I don’t think I’ll ever see a North Carolina team win a championship (outside of hockey)
As a Houston fan I feel your pain.. That's been us pretty much since the Texans came into existence and even through the Oilers existence, for Texas to be such a football state at that..
Took the wrong guy and potentially gifted the bears their franchise guy as well. Man, that trade set the team back a decade.
Kobe never wanted to play in Charlotte though. So the Hornets had to deal him.
@@adonisobrien Houston? Astros do nothing but win. Learn to like baseball bro
@@doughbafett Kobe had no pull. Bro was barely a lottery pick out of hs. Hornets needed a center since they lost alonzo mourning. Vlade was a top 7-8 center in a time where big men ruled the league.
I don’t watch football that much but it’s nice that both the Texans and the Rockets are on the rise
Kid is a straight baller
Is this Max Kellerman??
Thank you Panthers and Bears 🐻 for passing on Stroud ❤
Im so happy for CJ. I knew he would be electric, i wanted him in Carolina. He ended up in the best position for him. Go off CJ! Show them who u are!
Wow the kid CJ is Amazing
Coming from a Dallas Cowboys fan 😊🇺🇸
He should have been the 1st overall pick. So proud of him. Buckeye Nation stand up!
Thank goodness he wasn’t the first pick. CJ landed with the right team. Great HC and great OC.
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Watching this video as a Texans fan makes me so happy. We're on the rise!
Stephen A going back on his statements from last week all Dan said was he deserved MVP consideration and Stephen A said he couldn’t be
Yup he does it every week. Can’t wait for someone to make a compilation of it. That’s why he got rid of max, max was smarter, with better takes and made SAS feel dumb
@@jrrg123 Why are you watching then? Lmao
Proud to be a Texans fan!!! Being a season ticket holder has been rough the last couple years!
i’ve seen enough, Josh Dobbs MVP Incoming locked
If he played like this all year maybe
My Texans gettin love is rare & I love it man I hope everything’s workouts out this & years to come Mann kuz we need it!💯
This Kid is amazing on and off the field. WOW!
Love hearing CJ get his flowers for playing so well!!
It's amazing what one game can do 😅.
CJ is the most dangerous QB in the league. His pocket presence reminds me of John Elway.
You can see it. Some players just have that it factor. This kid is smooth. He is so poised with arm strength.
The Era of Black Quarterbacks 💪🏽💯🔥
You’re clearly racist
Y'all really can't keep race off your mind. So embarrassing & annoying, no wonder racism still exists.
Makes you wonder just how many guys coudlve succeeded if they weren’t blackballed or made to change positions.
CJ is that guy I still can’t believe that they took Bryce Young over Stroud 🤦🏾♂️
Easy to say now.
He should have won the Heisman.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76 no I been was saying this.
@@keysboogie9966 it was very possible
To have 2 INTs in a pass heavy offense as a rookie through 9 games?
Incredible. And he’s 2nd in passing yards as well.
...but first in passing yards per game. Howell 1 more game than CJ
Steven A Backpedaled so fast you swear he was sitting down on a bike.
That’s what he does every time for the better past of 10 years. He loses an argument, either he back pedals or lays out a straw man argument that has nothing to do with the conversation to derail the original point.
Circumstances changed
Lovey Smith knew all along
😂😂😂😂
I agree with Steven I was worried for DeMeco going to Houston.. but once Cal got out of Easterby hold. I saw a different organization. I think Nick pull Cal to the side on Easterby.
Mvp is up for grabs so no surprise if he continues to play consistently great and possibly get Texans to playoffs then yea I wouldn’t be mad, either way this has been nothing but a exceptional season for stroud and his future is very bright
MVP is too open, but he's definitely in the conversation!! He's definitely the rookie player of the year! MVP doesn't close until February! But, I said CJ would be at the top because of his stint at Ohio State! This is why college football is important! You can see the league winners coming in!!
🎶Go, CJ!!🎶 (Lil Wayne voice) LOL.
CJ Stroud is the Best QB in the NFL with under 5 years of experience!!
I would have Hurts and Mahomes ahead of him, but he certainly is in the conversation. The kid is certainly the MOST VALUABLE player.
This young man has wisdom and humility at very young age, very impressive, point blank.
He’s not winning it but he can be in the running. The record will matter in the end. I’ll put AJ brown before him. They’ve been leaning on brown while being 8-1.
Why is jalen hurts been skipped over.
@@dominiquebrown2890 I’m an eagles fan. I think the turnovers hurt him a bit at the moment. If he plays well over these tough matchups these next few weeks it’s his to lose maybe.
@@SPACEKNOCKERZ76At least don't forget Tyreek Hill & CMC.
yeah if the mvp wasn’t a qb award I would agree with the an brown.
Thank u as a Houston Texans fan I'm happy Houston finally got something right✅
"I'm more humble than him" should go down in history as the most ironic and unaware thing I've ever heard
Underrated
"You should be saying this about me every week" 😂😂😂 #NBKWAY
I always said he was the #1 QB in the draft when they were clownin him saying he did terrible on that combine test, man I wish I could find my comment defending him lol I WAS RIGHT TO DAN!!
I wasn’t a believer till I saw him against a hot Bengals team. MVP.
Jags fan here. This kid is special. And I hope he goes far. Also love how unashamed he is of Jesus🙌🏾
Yo… Shannon‘s suit is super sharp
Numbers do pretty good with Shannon on, vs the other ......props.
Getting rid of Jack Easterby was the much needed change for the Texans to get back on track. Also Mrs. McNair has been very helpful building the goodwill back with the fan base.
He’s the favorite, he’s got the stats, a good enough record and has put this 3 win team on his back! That last part matters! He’s doing more with less
Has to make the playoffs to have a legit chance
@@Renegade-kf8fpstill impress
CJ is one of the best QB’s I’ve ever seen. I’ve been watching the NFL since 85. He reminds me of Dan Marino in the 80’s
You all were saying Brock was a MVP candidate the way he was playing. You have to do the same for CJ he has taken a pathetic sorry franchise and doing big things. CJ doesn't have that 49ers roster if he did..... they would be the flat out Favorite to win the SB.
You guys suck at critical thinking and it’s sad. Brock is surrounded with pro bowl talent. Who on the offense is pro bowler before CJ got there?
Give Demeco Ryans his flowers too for turning this franchise around after Bill O'Brien gave up Hopkins for cookies and Watson got into his lawsuit. The Texans are officially back!
Hype! This is a just what Dan Lebatard said it is.
Before the season started I said DeMarco Ryan's was going to change their culture it all started with the NFL draft the Kansas City Chiefs is my favorite team but I also like 🤘🏾 town they are fun and exciting to watch
Im still new on all this, how does the voting work?
As a jags fan if they make the playoffs and he continues his good play for the rest of the games I think he probably should win MVP unless someone else just really starts going off
The last time they did this about a qb (Brock purdy, lost three straight)
Cj stroud nice man he plays so smooth to me crazy talent
His numbers line up to finish with 5000 yards,27 tds and 4 pics. It just depends on how many wins they have. If he can get to 11 then he has a shot
CJ Stroud is not just a GENERATIONAL TALENT……He is not only single-handedly re-writing the rookie passing records books, he is changing the comp for rookies in generations to come. He has been the biggest difference in these games week in and week out. His stats are not top 10, they are Top 3! He just out dueled whom most consider to be the 2nd best QB in the NFL, beating him on his home field! CJ Stroud is without a doubt in the MVP business! I think of all the negatives put out about him before the draft and love watching him make the naysayers eat their pre draft remarks on a weekly basis. I love how he is the anti-thesis of everything the stereotyped black quarterbacks to be for so many decades. They were athletes, they couldn’t process quickly enough, they panic. CJ Stroud can very well be the prototype and the preeminent passer of the next decade. His skills are undeniable. I have not enjoyed watching football this much EVER in 35 years. Let’s Go Texans! And Thank YOU CJ Stroud for everything you do!
He fully deserves it so far.
CJ stroud 2,626yds 15TDs 2ints 101 rating
Sam Howell 2,783yds 17TDs 9int 95 rating
@@MissingMyPeepsthat’s objectively worse with an extra game too😂
@@hamedismaeal1288 has been sacked the most in the league and putting up those numbers? With a better offensive line those ints drop those sacks drop...Those yards and TD's go up. Also technically this is also his 1st year starting as well. Currently leads the league in passing yards tied for 3rd in TD's
@@MissingMyPeeps the Texans don’t have a good oline either and not but stroud is not holding on to the ball and making smart decisions and Washington has the better wide receivers
Sam is a good qb but he is no mvp
@@hamedismaeal1288lies the texans have good oline. stop thinking of last year the upgraded and got better from the head coach on down. enough with this lazy narrative. actually watch the games. stay up to date with how they perform. don’t use to make stroud look better let his skill and the truth do that, he is a top 10 qb (fact)with a good oline(fact)
Cj looks so comfortable and confident! Did they all just agree for the first time?
CJ is by the far been the best player in the league, when you take in consideration everything about Houston's situation, he been balling all season long.
I think Shannon right people don’t wanna give him credit cause his team ain’t dominating and the rookie status
no it’s because no qb should win it. no qb is playing well enough and putting up the numbers to win mvp. it should go to another position. if you think otherwise your bot.
CJ STROUD keep it up young man! We believe 🫡 -Texans Fan
First imma give my respect to C.J Stroud he one of my favorite QB In the League yes he deserve to be in the MVP conversation right now but he not the best rookie QB ever until he reach at least the AFC Championship game I seen Mark Sanchez Joe Flacco and Brock Purdy last year to make it to championship games will see further ahead for C.J but they got their Franchise QB and he’s definitely a lock now to win Rookie of the year these 2 games has been great games by him so Houston Texans fans y’all got y’all guy even tho I’m a Jaguars fan but props to y’all and the Texans of founding y’all guy.
The coach of the year is in DETROIT
If they win the division he should get it
Nobody else is putting up numbers close to Stroud atm
The week to week high is crazy in all parts of NFL conversation. Let him have bad stats in the next game and he is getting written off.
He had his bad week against Carolina and followed up with 2 elite performances
@@88Rancidfan Point?
Thank you Lovie Smith for winning the last game for us last year!
Trevor Lawrence hasn't peaked as high as CJ Stroud in the NFL
Disappointing szn yes. However lets not forget what he did last year.
@@freshprinceshaunLawrence has been less than advertised
@@freshprinceshaunFormer #1 pick lost to the former Last pick. TLaw needs to be a bit more calm in the pocket.
@ghostx4747 he not pocket passer
@@ghostx4747lots of teams lost to that last pick. That said Purdue for the mos part has been solid. 49ers are well built.
Stroud's yards per game, completion % and interceptions are insane. He just met these dudes.
Clear MVP leader and if you say otherwise you better have a groundbreaking sound argument to back it up because if not you just don’t know football period.
There is no clear cut MVP favorite right now.. just like there is no clear cut best team. Just a bunch of players/teams in the mix, each of whom could gain a lead in those spots from week-to week & have the analysts re-evaluating every Monday until the end.
2:31 The last rookie QB to get an MVP vote was not Dan Marino in 1957…….it was Dak Prescott in 2016.
28th ranked completion % and 10th ranked QBR
ppl see how elite Tunsil is with a great QB
What a suprise, SAS is switching up. At least be consistent.
he's not even embarrassed, just shameless😆
The Texans head coach alone should be coach of the year how he turned this disaster of a team around and yes he should be MVP
You’re right and wrong. Last year with Lovie Smith Houston played very hard and had some battles with good teams. They couldn’t close though because the offense was horrendous. So CJ is leading the charge for the turnaround imo. Where I give Coach Ryans huge credit is not putting training wheels on CJ and letting him play I don’t think Lovie would’ve.
@@davidwilliams5854 I’m saying over the past 4 years
He will be. If not the league needs to be reevaluated..
As a Panthers fan the day we got Tepper was the day we were screwed he has no idea what he is doing. We gave up the house to pick the wrong guy Stroud is clearly NFL ready idk how we screwed that up.
Was that a shot fired at Lamar? At the end from Steven A?😆
I'm a die hard Houston Texans fan and for some strange reason I have Tyreek Hill as the front runner of The Best QB Award but I love our rookie and he's not too far behind Cheetah. IN MY OPINION.
“Tony Dell” is crazy
Where is the Same Howell love?
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