Rep. Horsford sets record straight after Trump calls Harris a 'copycat' over ‘no tax on tips’ plan
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- As the race between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump tightens in several swing states, Nevada Congressman Steven Horsford, the Chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, joins The Weekend to discuss what it will take to win his state.
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Tips are a gift! I agree 100%. Businesses abuse them so they don't have to pay minimum wage.
Getting paid for your labor is NOT a "gift". Hoping for generosity for your labor is NOT a "wage". ABOLISH TIPS and PAY your workers for their labor!
People who use their own vehicle for a delivery service cannot make a living and perform their service if they don't get tips. Not only are they trying to make a living but it costs a lot to maintain an automobile.
Yes, it's crazy that servers are still making $2.13/hour. I remember friends working as servers in college. If your manager put you on crappy shifts, you made little or nothing for the day. So if you got stuck working a few lunch shifts at a place that was very quiet at lunch time, you could spend 5 hours making almost nothing.
Yes and also they want to be able to give "tips" of millions instead of buying things so they don't have to pay taxes.
Agreed 💯%👍👍
There’s a distinct difference between Trump’s “no tax on tips” and Harris “no tax on tips for rest and hospitality”. Harris plan specifically helps working people. Trump’s plan is a work around for wealthy earners to reclassify their bonuses as tips.
hahahahahahahaha you are such a joke. you know harris is copycat trump
I don't understand why it's even allowed in the usa that an employes can pay less than the legal minimum wage and say "whatever I'm short is made up in tips". No. Minimum wage from the employer, tips on top of that. Any employer that would try that in my country would have zero staff but a lawsuit happening anyway.
Because of the rich with their lobbyists.
The US man, it's a banana republic.
Restaurants must pay workers a living wage. In other developed economies, restaurant workers are treated with dignity and earn fair wages, but in the U.S., too many businesses exploit their employees. These workers deserve a living wage. Tips should be a bonus for exceptional service, not a lifeline. Let’s show empathy and demand fair pay for these hard-working workers.
very well said
Big difference between the Harris tip tax relief and Trump tip tax relief. Harris limits it to the service industry. Trump left it open ended, so those who are paid through commissions can restructure to call it tips and avoid all income taxes. Major difference and motivation.
There it is - yep, trump wouldn't call for anything if there wasn't a hidden benefit for trump, in this case, already rich people getting more money. Service workers deserve a decent base wage, and tax free tips on top.
I’ve been saying that for weeks!
@@dimitricalimopulos3842 We have to keep saying it as long as corporate media ignores it and plays their both sides games.
Exactly! Trump is geared on those gratuities tips or gifts to people like him and Clarence Thomas. See the Supreme Court ruling recently on Snyder versus US.
The difference in Trump's and Harris's intentions on tips: Harris wants no tax on tips for people under a certain income level. Trump's plan would allow the wealthy to claim some income as tips and pay less in taxes.
Mr. Gloom and Doom will have to come up with more than his normal juvenile name calling to stop the Harris/Walz phenomenon. I'm Voting 🩵
If you can't afford to pay your employees at the very least minimum wage then you shouldn't be in business. I'm sick of the abuse that is waged against workers. The no tax on tips proposal shouldn't even be a thing workers should have to think about. Stop using slave labor!
Let's say Trump had the idea of this no tax idea. Kamala just proved why she's the best person for the job of being our President. It shows she listened to others, including Republicans. She liked the idea and decided it was a great idea. Isn't the exactly what we want in our leaders? Kamala ahs plenty of ideas, but is still willing to listen and act when she hears good ideas, and isn't focused on only standing against the GOP. I'm an Independent. I love how Harris has handled herself and has earned my vote and support. It's clear she is the correct choice to lead us forward as a United Country!
Exactly! Good ideas can come from anyone. A good leader will consider them rather than ignore them.
Yeah she also listened to her Daddy who promotes communism and income distribution that is distribution when it's comfortable for people like the Obama's
I wish the congressman had actually answered the question about tips. From what others in the party have said, Haris saw that the tip issue was very important to voters so she wanted to adress it. However, she doesn't want to make all tips tax free, she wants guardrails so that people don't abuse the system. Trump wants to give the no tax on tips to everyone so that Wallstreet can change their model to a tip based system instead of commission. It would be the same money, but no longer taxed.
BINGO!
I can agree that the service industry would abuse no taxes on tips.
Wall Street is going to change to tips? No kidding!!! How is that going to work🧐
@@fredworthmn Service industry wouldn't have the chance to abuse tips, most don't make enough from tips for it to matter.
Bernie Sanders is the one that actually wanted this for the past few years.. Good policy is good policy period... It's ridiculous to claim copy cat when people running may have the same goal for policy.. Isn't that the point?
Thank you to my Congressman Horsford
How bout instead of no tax on tips. We just do no tips. Just pay your employees a living wage rather than passing that responsibility onto your patrons. I have worked as a tipped employee for the better part of my adult life. I stopped years ago because it is an unfair system that doesn't work. It allows company's to profit of their servers misfortune, creates tension between your servers and your customers, and forces workers to rely on luck and empathy for an income. Empathy that is unfortunately rare. Also sometimes people just can't afford to pay more than they already have and why should they have to? Or feel obliogated to?
The "Tips are a gift" idea is excellent.
I must admit I had not considered it that way.
A "gift"? I work hard for that "gift" Mr Hurd.
Tips should be on top of a real wage one can live on. I've NEVER understood tips being used as 'pay', in this country we just pay properly and any tips given are a bonus for a job well done, not a requirement to live.
@@TinaTimmins-sm7em
The "gift" idea is to separate tips from salary for taxes. Gifts can not be taxed.
$2.13 is slave labor, these hospitality workers depend on their tips.💙💙💙💙💙
Than vote trump
Trump announced the NO TAX TIPS June 6th. The kacklin Klown cast the deciding vote on the spending bill adding 80,000 IRS agents and one point in the bill stipulates GOING AFTER TIPS not claimed!!!!!! Harris wants your tips taxed!!!!! She voted for it, she lies.
@@anewleaf6847Project 2025 is bad business
@@eliassalcedo5229 it's a lie....not connected to trump..but by all means promote your propaganda
Then trump 2024 for tax-free tips.
Not taxing tips is an idea that's been around long before Trump ever ran for Office. It's not Trump's idea either so who did he steal it from?
He stole it from the Democrats to pander to the working class (prolly trying to make up for the 'black jobs' comment).
Yer Mom?
@@timothykresko1984 Clearly you're a child with no adult supervision.
@@StephenLewisful”and loving it” - Maxwell Smart
@@timothykresko1984that's why Republicans want to get rid of the education department. To keep people like you ignorant so they can continue to gaslight you. Didn't Trump say he loved the uneducated. Open your eyes employ some media literacy and critical thinking and stop voting against your own interests.
The best solution for tips is to do what the Europeans do: include the gratuity in the price of service and pay your workers a living wage. Standardize it so it doesn't become a form of PG prostitution. Workers in that sector suffer enough indignities as it is.
The main difference between VP Harris's tip tax elimination proposal and Dump's proposal is that VP Harris knows that an increase in the minimum wage has to be tied in with the elimination of tax tips. You have to have an offset, and raising the minimum wage is that offset. Taxes on tips fund Social Security and Medicare, which have to be paid into. So just eliminating the tax on tips is not the answer, the minimum wage has to be raised in order to ensure workers continue to pay into Social Security and Medicare. Harris's plan will be a gradual phase-out of taxes on tips triggered by an increase in the minimum wage for workers.
It's weird how the cult leader wears more makeup than his opponent.
harris really does wear a lot.
Didn't he date Rudy during Rudy's cross dressing period?
@@americanpatriot6484Trump wears more.
@MrRandyWatsonyou must have gotten kicked off RUclips again .😂😂😂😂
@@BurkBernard he never was kicked off youtube bro.
Honest vs criminal… for Our next leader..
Asian American for KamalaWalz24 Freedom Democracy Unity for all. 🗳️💙🇺🇸
There's an old saying: Well paid workers cost you nothing.
When you pay your staff a decent wage they will be dedicated, hard working and motivated. They will pay *back* those wages tenfold in the work they provide.
Minimum wage isnt "Communism." A wealthy lower and middle class is what *drives* Capitalism.
I'm a server. Same place for 22 yrs and I get $3.64 an hour. The tips I get sustain me. Not my hourly wage.
That's why I always tip in cash and I privately give it to my server. I always give more than the percentage that is asked.
💙💙💙💙 Vote 2024 up and down the ticket 💙💙💙 "Do Something" 2024 💙
Wow....the last time I called someone a copycat I was in the 3rd grade.
The term fits her.
Who did you call a copycat last year ?
I call trump a copycat, because he copied the idea from Ron Paul
What a debate it will be!! If he shows up 😆
Did you just assume that person's gender?
Oh he will.
*she
He won't.
Nice balanced reporting - NOT! How is the not plagiarism?? Why didn’t Harris implement it this cycle?
Luckily she's not a -- copycat -- when it's about our reproductive health!
I JUST WENT FOOD SHOPPING AND GOT ONE BAG OF BASIC FOOD *@ DOLLERS TRUMP IS THE ANSWER SHE HAS DONE NOTHING GOOD BYE HARRIS HELLO TRUMP REAL VETERANS FOR TRUMP
let's be realistic, who pays taxes on small transactions in cash? and he knows it, the master tax cheater, unless he is planning to pass million as a tip
We need to get rid of tipping altogether. My checks are automatically 20% higher because off tipping but I will certainly not pay additional "service fees" to offset employers paying low wages to non-service workers. Raise prices 20% and pay employees are living wage. If a business cannot survive unless it underpays its employees, then it's a bad business and the market has made its choice.
She is copying him. Try harder.
Tips are getting out of control in the US (especially with all the apps at restaurants and stores nowadays). NO country in the world has our tips culture. In Europe, tips are the changes (coins... not bills) return to the customer after they paid the bill, and it's not required. In Asia... no nation accustomed to tips or require it as an expected part of the service transaction.... especially in Japan, where tips are frowned upon and the service worker would be very offended if tips are rendered after their service.
People that get tips already cheat on taxes for 70-80% of their tips. Why should they get more breaks?
It's funny when crooks get mad when someone steals from them.
progress towards national living wage is a vision our children would approve. Love our children enough to make this election about them.
They call us weird, and they call the opening ceremonies to the Olympic games normal.
The fact that you are so poorly educated that you thought the opening ceremony was a reenactment of the Last Supper says everything we need to know about you. It had nothing to do with that but as a right-wing Republican of course nothing can exist outside of the your perception
It feels good knowing Trumpism ends in Nov.
Smile and stop complaining this is good news!
Mental disorder is mental disorder.
It's not trump's ideas. It's voters' concern. Listening to voters' voice and ruled to address them are government job. Owning that as if it's his own ideas is absurd.
She fought to lock them up for marijuana😮
She is obligated to follow Federal laws until we get them changed.
OMG enforcing laws that were on the books? Maga has just reliqnueshed all the GOP staples.
@@jonesnboneshow ab not allowing evidence that would prove a man’s innocence?
@@skankhunt42002 The Judge is the person who decides what evidence is part of a trial or not.
@@skankhunt42002@ roadwarrior you have proof or are you just repeating what some ignorant person told you, when making a claim bring something along that supports it, otherwise it's just another worthless claim, aside from that these are different times too, but I guess you don't understand that right!! It's also the republicans that are against legalizing Marijuana use period, you're just full of talking points but nothing concrete!!!
I remember when kamala had the tie breaking vote that gave IRS authority to crack down on waiters tips
gross misrepresentation of Inflation Reduction Act. But you already knew that. Did Jesse tell you this?
@@youtubewatcher2 - joe and his side are the ones that put that into the bill in the first place.
@@americanpatriot6484 reread the bill. The enforcement section (as subsequent IRS documentation) identifies high earnings individuals as set for increased scrutiny. In 2023 they collected $482 million from just 1600 millionaires.
There has been an inorganic flood of bots 'n' trolls on MSNBC threads lately. I mean, what actual Trump supporter watches MSNBC, right? It'd be like me posting on FOX threads, LOL. The cope is delectable, though ;)
This is a ruse that enables multi millionaires & CEO’s to “tip” themselves hundreds of millions of $….actually indirectly negatively affects workers income.
More policies, less coconuts.
Found one… Let John know.
Trump is going to lose buddy.
@MrRandyWatson he's probably mailing in more than one early vote for himself
@@BurkBernard The coconut hit you on the head.
@MrRandyWatson I know Putin is going to fire you.
Ask Rome and Venezuela what happened when "price control" was made law.
Ah yes, the country of Rome.
Duh 😂
Stopping price gouging is not price control!
Or, closer to home, ask the GOP-run states that have done it.
I’m voting for Harris, but saying the expectation is for hospitality workers to live off $2.13/he is absurd. That’s the baseline pay for servers knowing that they will earn their money through tips. I worked with bartenders that could easily earn $300-$500 a night in tips.
No, tips shouldn’t be taxed but don’t float out there that people are expected to live off $2.13. That’s not the idea or truth.
Also, that’s the nature of the restaurant industry. If you work as a waiter you know that’s the deal. You work for tips.
Horsford did not say that, he supports raising the MW. $2.13 is the minimum wage for restaurant workers in many states. I used to be a waiter almost 30 years ago, and it was $2.13 back then. And there is no such thing as "knowing" that you are going to be tipped. And tips are not "earned", because the customers are not employers.
Get rid of these stupid tips, pay these people a fair vage, for God sake! 🙄
The GOP said they’re the party of fiscal responsibility but their policy is only tax cuts for the rich that ballooned the deficit.
I don't know how it works now, but when tips started being taxed in my area in the 1980's, it wasn't what you actually were tipped that was counted, it was a percentage of your tickets for the shift. So if somebody stiffed you, you actually could lose money by serving them.
Question is ,
How many lies will these people tell ?
MSNBC? They seem to never stop.
Who won the 2020 election?
Do you know how they wanted Donald Trump to show his tax returns... I'd sure like to see MSDNC's tax returns!
Fox paid out 787.5 for purposeful misinformation.
The lies Hannity used from Alexander Smirnov just added to Fox's gaslighting.
@@WhyDoYouNotThinkForYourself then read the Comcast annual reports
Here’s the record straight for you all. Trump and the Republicans are done.
It's not copycat, it's bipartisan. We are supposed to adopt each other's ideas, notcoppse them just because they're from an opponent.
For a country that claims to be ones of the richest in the world, only to hear grown adults aren't getting what they're worth, and hearing that people need tips to help them, obviously something isn't working, and it seems profits over people, seem to overrule most of the time, so when you have Politicians actually standing up telling you it's time for change, not only to better the country but to better your lives, it sounds like someone is listening.
We're actual Americans, too. Our country was founded on liberalism. The entire free world leans liberal
Don't give the wealthy another tax loophole. Be sure no tax on tips applies only to Working Class in the Service Industry
Federal minimum wage needs to be raised from 7:50 an hour.... I work in a public school district in Texas and barely make 14 dollars in 5 years
Really, we should just look at how countries like Denmark, Norway, Finland etc..manage to pay _their_ service workers not only a true living wage, but also paid vacation, paid family leave, as well as provide _UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE,_ among other things...what is the difference between how those countries are run, and ours? WHY can those countries treat their workers fairly, while we can't?
That dude who had happy endings in the Oval Office and went to the island 27 times was on stage with Cumala. Cumala even gave him a hug.
Ahh....are you jealous a woman is going to be President and you can't even date one? Try taking a shower and brushing your teeth.
Wow that’s so cool and witty, you’re so smart spelling her name like that, you sure showed her…..
@@tabithafletcher1513 You mad bro?
If Trump thought that no tax on tip was a good policy then he would congratulate and encourage VP Harris for having the same plan! .. But NO, all he wants to do is to take credit for it. Basically simply thinking of himself and not the people! ..
Please make sure that the tax free tips only apply to service workers...guaranteed Judge Thomas will try says all those bribes were just tips...not to mention all the CEO'S will start claiming all those bonuses are just tips 🙄💙💙💙
As a taxpayer we don't care whose idea it is as long as it benefits us. Nobody knows or cares who came up with the idea of mortgage interest deduction. But everybody takes the deduction. Rest my case.
Just do away with tips literally, no other country does this. They could just pay at least, the fed. Min wage like every other company has to do other wise they violate labor laws.
Republicans would never approve a plan where employers have to pay more.
Where is the part where he sets the record straight🤷🏻♂️
Just another point for him to whine about. Where are his policies? Where are his qualifications? Where are his taxes? Where are his medical reports?
Fugg "no tax on tips, INCREASE LOW WAGES TO LIVING WAGES!
I remember very vividly my first job delivering pizzas as a kid. At the end of the shift, all the drivers lined up to declare tips for the night for W2 reports. I was the only one who gave the real numbers. The others always said either $1 or $0. Why? Cause they were making $5 an hour with bills to pay and kids to feed. They couldn't afford $40 turning into $36. I was a teenager (and scared of getting audited or I would have said nothing too) so an hour's pay loss wasn't going to break me. It would have broken some of the guys I worked with.
disgusting worldview, that people are either tippers or the ones being tipped, and that taxes make the same difference to everyone's wallets equally. what if the rich owners don't want to tip at all?
How do we define a "tip"?
How big can it be?
What "services" are allowable?
walz: stay out of our business.
also walz: call and report your neighbors.
you call yourself an American patriot but you support a guy who refused the peaceful transfer of power and wants to be a dictator? strange choice for a purported patriot
you are no patriot
Tipping goes back to the post-abolition of slavery days. Many businesses wouldn't/couldn't overtly employ former slaves. So many former slaves had no choice but to hang around businesses and hope to do their former 'slave' jobs, casually and unofficially, for 'tips' - in-lieu of actual wages. Anyone who is working a subservient job that requires them to rely on 'tips' from their 'masters', is doing a "black job". America needs to catch up with the rest of the developed world and stop the degrading practise of 'tipping' in-lieu of wages.
Words to hide that Camila is a copy cat.
Didn't Biden/Harris hire more IRS agents to go after the tax. Yes they did 😂😂😂😂
The demented dt has all sorts of ideas and all these plans, but he doesn’t follow through on them. The withdrawal from Afghanistan is an example. His idea, but President Biden had to do the dirty work. Insulin shot prices. Dt had that proposal and it sat in his desk. More accessible and cheaper health care. Sat on that one too.
Just because dt said the words does not mean it will ever be done.
I think they should increase federal minimum wage and not tax tips only for service workers and food workers not everyone because the greedy will change rules for rich workers in certain jobs. The down side is if you don’t tax and claim tips then it doesn’t apply to money back from taxes.
This is not a news channel .
Harris will limit "no tax on tips" to median and lower incomes, unlike Trump, who would use this to benefit the wealthy by allowing them to reclassify income as "tips".
Will no tax on tips may make more people want to be topless dancers.
President Obama began the no tax on tips discussion. Do your research, please.
Wait staff should receive the minimum wage and get their tips.
Be a server in California. You'll make more that college educated employees.
I wish she had some ideas of her own and would do more debates. I'm wondering if I'm even voting for her. Not Kennedy now, pobably go Green or anything else, unless she starts speaking more publicly.
So servers bringing home $300-$800 a nlght won't be taxed but my $200 a day becomes $138 after taxes? That sounds fair 🤷🏿♂️😲
harris' do-nothing career will end after the 1st debate.
Trump took the idea from Ron Paul. If it's such a great idea, why didn't he do it when he had controll of both chambers of congress in his first two years?
Like joe with the border?
@@americanpatriot6484I will build a great wall...and Mexico will pay for it.
Trump.
@@AEnema-6 and they did pay for it by agreeing to Trump's Remain in Mexico policy. So far Democrats have cost our country 451 billion caring for their illegals.
@@WhyDoYouNotThinkForYourselfPretzel 🥨
@@americanpatriot6484 Oh, you mean the border bill that all the Republicans in Congress recently voted against because Trump said so....just like the comprehensive border bill the Obama/Democrats tried to pass in 2016-20 but all the Republicans voted against. Where's the Trump border bill he promised? Oh right, the wall that Mexico was never going to pay for, has no security cameras, most of it's 10 mile length has blown down in the wind, and his minion Bannon lined his pockets with....baaabaaa.
O honestly think that employees that receive a tip should have at least minimum wage! I tip my massage therapist, hairdresser and they get a good amount for their services…servers should receive minimum wages at least and tips are a gift. Also, Trump says something but will not produce once elected. He will give to corporations and not people. I always tip in cash, so the person can declare or not….
Wow you just play a Harris radio ad on TV. I hope to hear a Trump radio ad being aired on your show.
Yeah, I guess Kami girl should have returned RFK Jr.s phone call. Would probably ignore Putin and Xi, too.
I understand the need to win in Nevada, but wages are a far, far better policy. I also think hospitality workers considering voting for Trump over this issue should really be asking some hard questions like, "Will this affect my social security benefit in future years?", "Will this affect any EITC I'm receiving?", "Will this affect my ability to contribute to an IRA or other retirement plan, assuming I can even consider such a thing?" There's no way a Trump administration implements a policy as simple as a bigger paycheck without some unpleasant surprises to be discovered afterwards.
As for Harris copying Trump... While I don't personally love the policy for a variety of reasons, campaign policy proposals are in the public domain the minute they come out of a politician's mouth. So sad for you, Orange Man. It was never original with you in any case.
why not copy it if its a good idea. All trump does is childish nonsense...
No Beyonce
😂😂
So just so your Single Ladies routine for your friends, just tuck this time.
Aww you were looking forward to her, weren’t you
Tios are a gift and she didny get from Trump for he doesnt want wages going up..
Are we in pre school? If an idea is good it would be the best for the people to implement it. I heard Don the Con had an angle somehow. Calling other things tips maybe
=I was a server and made a few buck an hour and with tips I was making $25 an hour and this was 20+ years ago. Stop manipulating the facts and saying $2 per hour to live off.
She took his policy on tax-free tips that he announce weeks before. LOLOL
Why not she got where she is today by 'taking it.' Lol
@@WhyDoYouNotThinkForYourself Basement Dwellers is coming out in force
Ya...she doesn't do anything herself.
Trump didn’t bring it up until the supreme court ruled that government officials could receive bribes - if it’s done in a ‘tip’ after the official does what they want. Look it up…
@@WhyDoYouNotThinkForYourselfUmm actually it has been talked about doing this for a few years. It was Bernie Sanders plan.
_"I will fix the economy that I wrecked for the last 3½ years."_-- Kamala.
@@MusicandMMA Can you cite exactly when Covid printed trillions of worthless paper dollars?
@@MusicandMMA Please explain how a microscopic virus was able to lock the doors of millions of businesses.
Meanwhile in reality, the economy is better in every aspect since Biden took office
JD Vance is on Meet the Press this morning and RFK Jr. is on Fox News Sunday.
Where is Kamala? Hiding?
She's busy winning
It worked for Joe, why change now?
The obiden bots will ratio your comment be careful
Basement kamala
Hidin’ Biden 2.0
0ld poll, pre convention...
Never doubt the power of Democrat denial. 😆😆🤦♀️🤦♀️
We denied the anti-American nature of Republicans too long. They are a danger to our nation.
Russian Trump troll bot.
@@kelliepatrick519 Marxist dim in denial. 😆😆🤷♀🤷♀
@@kelliepatrick519 Marx loving dim in denial. 😁😁🤷♀🤷♀
What a cry baby trump is.
Trump’s toxicity level is increasing dramatically.
Heeks up harris is desperate mode!
Clock out.
@@Chris.Davis.2 a Democrat will never tell me what to do...I knew a Chris Davis in school...a absolute wimp
@@Chris.Davis.2 did ya get clipped at the dnc....pls have as many abortions needed to stop breeding stupid people