As for why a clip from a Bugs Bunny cartoon was used for testing, I think that one's pretty easy. The tests were done near Albuquerque, New Mexico, and one of Bugs Bunny's catchphrases is "I knew I should have taken that left turn near Albuquerque."
Funny enough when I came to New Mexico for work at the VLA I jokingly said "Getting to my house is simple. You take the left turn at Albuquerque and keep going"
It is perfectly legal to video government installations as long as you do so from a public place or public right of way. Even if there is a fence, you can still video whatever you can see inside the fence line. Video from a public place is constitutionally protected.
Haha. Good luck with that one. That falls into the category of "yeah, maybe, but when you're face down in the mud with rifles pointed at you, who's thinking about legal fees?" I've spent enough time around Federal law enforcement to know that their sense of right and wrong doesn't often coincide with civil rights attorneys.
as JD Stated, good luck with that, because when the firearms come out and you have nothing but a piece of RF Detection in your hands - fuck all about trying to argue with someone who has a weapon pointed at your chest. And you might think that ALL Video/Audio recording is constitutionally protected it is not. Especially if 18 USC 795 comes into play - i have seen people doing just that and here come the MP's and local LE - its immediate toss in the vehicle and off they go. They claim the same thing you do, but when they get shown the very sign right in front of them warning them of it - their entire argument goes out the window. now you are looking at Patriot Act - and god forbid they slap you with that. Your private life will effectively be over.
@@CapStar362 18 -USC 795 has been ruled unconstitutional by the Surpreme Court. Also, when it was in effect, signage was required along the fence so that people would know they could not film, but again, this was thrown out. If you are in a public place, with very few exceptions, you can record what you can see. (A rare exception is the practice of "Upskirting" where someone uses a camera to film from the ground and look up women's skirts. It is illegal in many states, but not in others).
@@shenmisheshou7002 why is it still within the USC then if it was struck down. it was not fully struck down - rather it was condensed and modified as of Dec 1 2022. check your sources again. And I'm well aware of how it works with the signage. hence my comment - if signage exists - put it away.
American Indian-owned company thriving again - Jan 3, 2003 LAGUNA PUEBLO, N.M. - Laguna Industries Inc., which nearly closed its doors three years ago, is on the rebound again, thanks to new federal contracts that are providing much-needed jobs for American Indians. The Laguna Pueblo-owned company is once again one of New Mexico's largest employers, with 320 workers and nearly $30 million in business booked for the next two years. The company broke ground recently on a new high-tech military radio frequency test range called MATIC, for Mobility Assessment Test and Integration Center. MATIC is a 32,000-square-mile range where the military will test frequencies, radios and other aspects of communications networks, using the mesas and hills around Laguna Pueblo to simulate battlefield conditions for short-range radio equipment, said Marty Perea, who directs the facility.
Googling MATIC and Laguna Industries reveals a document entitled "Effects research test report for the National Institute of Justice (NIJ) engine stopper program". Evidently the DOJ was working on a vehicle-mounted device that would instantly stall (or destroy?) an engine from a distance of up to 100m, and they tested it at MATIC in 2010.
@@johngayder9249 Considering the keyless start and entry systems so prevalent in the US these days, I wonder how many would start after an EMP attack. "50 vehicles built between 1987 and 2002 were exposed to a spectrum of EMP blasts (up to 50kV/m in strength). The EMP test indicated that roughly 15% of running vehicles may shut down if exposed to an EMP blast at or over 25kV/m over a wide range of area. In other words, short of a massive solar flare, only a nuclear explosion or purpose-built EMP would create the kind of pulse needed to cause the shutdown effect to occur."
The reason for the transmissions was they were looking at atmospheric effects on transmissions. That's why they did the spread of frequencies. They wanted to see how the effects changed across the spectrum. So you broadcast the signal on the test frequencies in sequence, so each one experiences the same atmospheric effects. The did a data burst, followed by a voice, and there were possibly some other sounds in there too. Using the same one across the entire test gives you a standard to compare against. Why did they pick the voice clip they did? Probably someone thought it was funny. Most likely there were receivers scattered all over the world that were used to pick up the signal for further research. The military is very interested in communications after all. A good example of this is GPS. The military version uses two frequencies so they can measure atmospheric delays to increase performance.
It's very obviously a ionosonde yes. Anyone with half a brain could figure that out instantly. Also "vvw and vvwh" lmao 😂 more braindead overindulgent fad content farming on subjects that always amount to nothing. The NPC TikTok disease of today smh
What I'm taking away from this: * they were testing propagation at different wavelengths * they used the jingle to mark the beginning of test data * they didn't mind attracting attention at all or were currying it
Imagine being so naive as to thinking the FOIA does anything Like if they were forced to reveal some sketchy documents detailing some nefarious activities they've partook in, literally why *WOULDN'T* they just edit and omit information before it's release to absolve them of suspicion?
@@richsackett3423 Much more absurd things have been revealed through FOIA. Technically there are few limitations besides national security, almost anything is available *_technically, with the properly worded request_*
One thing to remember is that in the US for about five years or so after the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks, anyone seen hanging around anywhere taking photographs was treated like some kind of potential terrorist. So whatever was going on at that site, it's no surprise these guys got chased away.
Yep I remember being told at a mall we were "terrorists" and would be "detained" if we didn't leave... for taking a selfie. That may have been the most "I'm important" mall cop I've ever seen.
And honestly that sentiment really has changed. Police officers, political cronies, and white-collar government/science nerds still try to act like they have the authority to stop someone else from filming something while in a public place.
Hey! I have a friend who used to work there 2001 - 2008 the reason for the transmission was to test audio formats in the early 2000s however they decided to paise the test but the transmitting computer wouldnt stop repeating that portion so they just lowered the power and left it alone until they saw those people they suspected the people as FCC employees so they shut down the transmission tower.
Love it! Sounds real-world. I guess that implies they were remotely logged in from elsewhere (not surprising) to an unmanned (or at least (un-engineer-operated) site and so couldn’t just disconnect it. More pressing priorities / somebody else’s problem…
I have a cousin who worked not directly at the MATIC site, but within the same Department for DoD on Radio Technologies. It correlates the same explanation he told me as well not long ago. They thought those guys were FCC, despite not even challenging them and just assumed the FCC would be started up a inquiry. Strangely it never happened, even though the FCC was contacted. DoD apparently already knew it was bound to happen, so internally the FCC would have seen the notice - hey, this is us - no need to investigate.
Given the time period of the early 2000s, likely testing a new type of burst digital data mode and seeing how well it propagated over various bands. However, whoever was conducting the broadcasts was either lazy or willfully negligent doing them on amateur bands as well as using such easily found frequencies (3700, 4300, 6500 & 10500 kHz) vs something more obscure like 4268.5 kHz.
I concur with this, given the nature of their business at the time it passes Occam's Razor. Sam's voice is very powerful and resonant so it'd be a good sound byte to use for propagation tests and instantly recognizable to recipients allowing them to identify the transmission immediately. Broadcasting on the bands they did may be down to the availability of equipment on the receiver side. They probably recruited amateurs with limited band scope.
I commented on his FB page about this - I remember this well, and a few people hypothesized that this might be testing for ALE. I know it was around then, but this could have possibly been a testing for a updated mode. I've read possibly JTRS too, but I'm not buying that one! What do you two think about that?
"Working on improving car wash machines" seems the perfect cover story. You won't get "How interesting, I've always dreamt of becoming a car wash engineer!" or "Hey, my brother's a car wash engineer!".
There might be something to that a couple companies just built or rehabbed dozens of car washes in the Northeast Ohio area, personally I think they’re doing something to us as we go through
Nice video. Poking around, it looks like that site has been abandoned for at least 8 years, is has been fenced and nature has been growing thru the lot. On USAOPPs it listed them as a defense contractor for US army making communication shelters and other stuff for Raytheon and others. The other Laguna that does car wash rechnology is in Oregon, not sure if related to this site. It would be a nice explore site...
I heard about the Yosemite Sam broadcasts years ago; maybe it was an article in Monitoring Times. Anyway, it's great to see someone following up on this.
Interesting story. I used to work at Laguna Industries back in the mid 80s writing tech orders for the military, their main customer. All of the US Army's contracting and technical manuals were managed out of Ft Monmouth. The manufacturing facility was under contract to build mobile communications shelters for the Army. I'm glad to see that LI is still around.
The new Laguna Industries comes back as from Oregon. The few pics I seen from the NM site looks like it was abandoned. As in you see grass growing on the walkways and driveway
I interviewed and got an offer there but ended up taking an out of state job for much more money (and opportunity). It was during their shelter manufacturing days.
Weird thing….property looks abandoned for quite awhile yet the telephone pole on the right of the driveway has pretty new looking power leads heading underground 🤔
Soon as you said, Military Communication Development, that immediately explained it for me. But what I’m more curious about is, why would a company go from Military research and development, to car washes
Do you really think, that with an extensive radio laboratory in the middle of the desert, away from any real population center, that they would develop car washes? I am not a conspiracy theorist, but if the U.S. military wanted that to disappear, it would. It would only take a couple of days to take down those radio towers/antennas.
Laguna Industries is the parent company, they are a tribal owned company that USED to get a lot of government contracts. They have privacy and autonomy advantages afford by the weird "separate state" status afforded to tribal government. There are A LOT of spooky government contracts on reservations. As far as the car washes go, from what I can gather, LI had a facility that was building shelters for the military, and it was easy to convert it to build car wash equipment. Since the WOT ended, there aren't as many lucrative military contracts around, so the public face of the company transitioned to car washes. They may still have subsidiaries that do defense research, but alot of the outside contracts for research were absorbed by DARPA a few years ago with the newest round of acquisition reforms.
Car washes lol. more like UFO cloaking technology. be on the lookout for transmissions from another Looney Tunes character, Marvin the Martian, to their partner down the road in Roswell. 👽
I don’t know that this will solve the issue… but I’ll pass on what I understand this particular transmission to be. Much, if not all, of the US military & US intelligence community’s efforts in the realm of ‘Electronic Attack’ (signal jamming, counter jamming, etc.) is HQ’d out of Whidbey Island Naval Air Station, Washington. Much of the intelligence training command for the US Army is located at Fort Huachuca, in Sierra Vista, Arizona. My understanding is that this was a joint experiment between the two installations. I don’t know ‘how big’ or ‘how important’ the project was - only that it happened. The objective was to better understand how to deliver burst transmissions of selected data packets, under conditions considered “austere”. Interpret that term as you may. I took it to mean ‘using lower levels of encryption capability’. For whatever reasons, likely due to the topography in the desert SW being ‘similar’ to active areas of operation at that time, the project was carried out just where you noted. Additionally the transmissions were sent from mobile units in several specific locations throughout Arizona & New Mexico. There was some parallel work done also in areas of the Pacific NW, presumably out of Whidbey Island NAS, but I have no information on that. From what I understand, they wanted to operate as if much of the satellite network that the US (and all countries really) relies on so heavily was degraded or even totally disabled secondary to an attack. So they were looking at transmitting data packets ‘within’ or camouflaged by other data using different methodologies. Think of it as a sound masked underneath the voice of ‘Yosemite Sam’. If you can get a clean recording of the broadcasts, I suspect you may see (or may not) waveforms that parallel but aren’t consistent with the repeating “I’ma gonna blow your…”. Though our adversaries understand & work on comms capabilities just as much, if not more than we do, I’m all but certain any if not all of them have worked on this same thing. Disguising or hiding operational data within something likely to be noticed but disregarded. Classified for the time it was underway - certainly. Perhaps for a period afterward. But certainly not classified today, which is why I feel comfortable passing this on. I can’t point you to them, it’s been quite a while, but I know I’ve read about this program & I believe a parallel project by other NATO nations as well, in a defense magazine or blog online. I know they had ‘some’ success, as this wasn’t exactly a new discovery. It’s been a capability for decades since the dawn of digital comms. But perhaps it was looked upon as nearing becoming a sort of ‘lost art’ with so much dependency & reliance on modern satellite encrypted communications. Perhaps they wanted to make sure that should the worst ever happen to the satellite networks… someone remembered how to reliably do this. Because we shouldn’t kid ourselves - should international tensions ever turn ‘hot’ again, it’s something we would likely see very early on. Russia, China, even No Korea, have quite openly demonstrated their interest in knocking out satellite communications kinetically. Someone needs to keep the old(er) school capabilities an actual ‘capability’. Take this for whatever you feel it’s worth… but that’s my understanding of THIS particular case. And it’s my ‘full’ understanding. I can’t think of anything else on this that I can pass along that’s anything more than a presumption. If this is useful to anyone in some way, I’m glad. We really enjoy your content, especially the historical stuff. It would be all too easy for this area of interest to fall into the shadowy past. I’m thankful that so many folks maintain their interest in the field. Whether professionally or simply a hobby. It’s been proven all too often here locally, that in the arena of disaster relief, there is NO substitute for our Ham Radio Operators. In emergency management here, such as after major tornados for instance, the Hams were what proved to be crucial. When cell towers are down - people tend to edge towards panic. All the best.
Just to add info the car wash Laguna company has no relation. I Personally know the guys who founded it about 10 years ago (worked with one of them at a former employer). They came from other car wash manufacturing companies to start their own thing.
As a former fire protection guy, I have a fanciful explanation (wild assed guess) for how a car wash manufacturer ended up at that facility. a) The original company that hosted the transmissions had a lucrative government contract to do the radio testing. b) In the boilerplate for said government contract there was a requirement for fire sprinkler protection. c) Their water supply out there was insufficient to supply said sprinkler system, so they had to invest in a significant sprinkler/firefighting water tank in order to have the sprinkler system meet code and qualify. d) When the contract was over they either sold the facility to a company who was looking for an existing building that could be easily adapted to to the installation of a large closed circuit water supply system, or, the original company thought "Well, the government contract ended, so what shall we do now...hmmm?"
That signal was of Yosemite Sam was part of a long range propagation experiment conducted by the late legendary American Pirate and American Broadcaster retired USAF communications specialist RADAR technician electrical engineer Laser 558 Ric Harris, and Radio Caroline's Geof West the legendary late Art Bell. He was doing some free lance consulting for the company at the time. His good friend and fellow American pirate Allan H. Wiener station owner operator WBCQ international shortwave and WXME medium wave and FM used to go out into the woods at night in Northern Pennsylvania, Southern New York state, and all over New England USA and run Pirate broadcasts late a night on international shortwave. Using the same Loony Tunes characters along with Allan.s head engineer and good friend Tim Smith Crystal Radio Ship. I have a good friend of mine that used to go with them. I never did broadcasting over the air without a licensee is against the law and subject to large fines and or arrest.
Great vid! From what I gathered in bits and pieces of the story over the years, was that they were just testing radio or radio-related equipment. Yes, an oddity however I never considered it a numbers stations. But none the less, still very intriguing! TYFP!
It's not "VVW and VVWH," it's WWV and WWVH. Most American radio call signs start with W or K, with W originally being for the Eastern USA and K being for the Western USA.
If you dont know the purpose, a possibility is to look at the result and infer the purpose. Perhaps it was a test to measure the response time if using that location by making it easy target to find electronically.
I was active SWL back then, heard a lot of legends about Yosemite Sam, but had no idea what it actually was. Everyone was talking about it on the #wunclub IRC channel. I miss the good old days of analog modulation, as digital came it became a very boring world. My gear back then: 9:1 magnetic longwire balun from RF Systems w/ 20m wire, Diamond D-130J Discone (which fried two frontends, LOL!), Yaesu FRG-7700, Icom PCR-1000, Icom IC-R7000, Icom IC-R75 (w/DSP and Syncro AM mods), AOR-3000A (bought from military), Yupiteru MVT-7200, NASA VLF-3 and WR-3 VLF receivers.
Just my opinion, but it seems really stupid to wave off people taking pictures. It would be so easy to have vans with hidden cameras, driving by over and over... ... not to mention dash cams. All they've done by waving people off is advertise that they've got secret things going on. And, now it's on RUclips. Nice, huh?
I'm just imagining angry technicians trying to figure out why their test signal isn't arriving for weeks just because they forgot a decimal point or something in their calculations
It's interesting that this is New Mexico. In 1986 the pastor of our church (who was an Air Force reserve officer) talked with me about previous active duty assignments he had worked. (I was an attack helicopter crew chief at Fort Ord California at the time) One of his assignments was in the desert in New Mexico. He mentioned that they used a shortwave repeating signal to drive to their location each day... In other words, the facility was not shown on any maps, so the only way to get there was to tune into a radio frequency and follow the signal in the general direction until they reached the facility. I asked him, "why not on any maps"? (Remember, this was the height of the cold war with Russia) My friend/church pastor had previously worked with laser research while on active duty on the Air Force... He asked me if I was aware of the Star Wars missile defense program. I said yes, I've heard of it, but assumed it was just wishful thinking on the part of President Regan, NORAD, and the Air Force. He laughed and said "Well it was... Kind of... But it was also a very REAL active research project with HUGE government funding, and he had been signed to the test facility... In the desert in New Mexico! I believe that the Yosemite Sam repeater was the homing signal for that facility. The description and general criteria you outline here fits with what he told me. If I had not promised to him to never divulge the details of what all he confided to me that day I would like to talk about two specific projects he consulted on. One being the display they put on for Congress which secured the funding for Star Wars. (Or how an improvised problem fix created the best possible outcome when they asked for a seemingly unlimited budget!) And the other: well, let's just say that it had to do with another secret facility near Roswell, New Mexico and involved two "Men in Black" type persons who needed to know "is it possible to focus a laser finely enough to cut bone in the human skull area as evidence by an X-ray print they showed my friend. The subject of the X-ray was an Air Force airman who had disappeared in the 1950s and then mysteriously reappeared in the early 80s and was detained when he tried to enter the main gate of an Air Force Base with an expired military ID and having apparently not aged a day from when he disappeared! I know this sounds like an X-Files episode but these two accounts were told to me nearly ten years before the X files even aired on television, and the details of what actually happened (especially in the laser research facility) make sense now when I consider how things played out afterwards. I'm really torn. There needs to be an account of these things before they are lost to history. Anyway that's some input on the Yosemite Sam signal which corroborates a story I was told nearly 40 years ago by an Air Force lieutenant with no possible motive to embellish his story. If anyone sees this and would like to get more details so you can tell this story, let me know.
Mel Blank was the man! To this day there is NO voice actor that has the range he did in the cartoon industry. 1972- 1989. YOUR VOICE IS MISSED you have left a void that will not be filled the sector is not the same!
I remember this causing a stir .......its nice to see that unlicensed signals travel just as far as licensed signals ....... UK hams would've laughed this off ....but some American hams see this as a crime against humanity Great history Lewis x
As a longtime American ham, I can tell you that many US hams invest ridiculous pride in holding that dumb little radio license. They think it's some kind of degree, not to say knighthood; a certificate of moral superiority. So they pitch a toddler fit if anyone's out there operating without one (or outside his privileges, etc.). It's an "exclusive club" thing. Look, I'm not thrilled with illegal ops either, but your point loses some weight when your complaint is basically "mine-mine-mine".
It's on a Indian reservation they can do whatever the hell they want and you can't do anything there that they don't want you to do. They're a sovereign Nation. If they ask you to leave and you don't leave they'll call the local sheriff's department and have you removed. Yes they can do that.
Something tells me that one of the workers there was an Licensed amateur. Saw those towers in dis-use and decided to have a little fun. But instead of everyone just ignoring it or just passively thinking that it was neat. Two amateurs felt the need to play fcc and police the band. The individual or individuals doing it might have thought they where immune due to being on a reservation.( sovereign nation ) So when the ham goons showed up they where quickly told to cut it out and don’t do it again..
Quite frequently the FCC works with or notifies area ham or section leaders of signal interference and jamming issues. It's part of the hams responsibility to help find the source of the interference and report it. That's why we practice "Fox Hunting" transmitter hunting. It's good fun.
Two points: One, the Amateur Radio Service is and always has been self-policing, as a way of protecting allocated spectrum from commercial interests that stand ready to cite the misuse of Amateur bands as a means to grabbing a larger slice of the EM pie. And two, radio enthusiasts of all stripes enjoy a good radio mystery, and many enjoy the challenge of solving them.
Noticed that too, Either the emi caused the distortion on the camera sensor, or it was a still frame taken from the vide and that is from the rolling shutter.
my guess is that they chose the ham bands so that if they were discovered, they could blame it on someone in the ham community abusing their privileges.
Yeah, as an aspiring HAM operator I can not get over how self righteous a lot of the people in the hobby are. Like having the ability to transmit is a gift from god. It's very off putting to me as someone trying to get into it
It went off the same day the guy approached the car, so it wasn't some random guy who set that up. It was the people who owned that building, or a worker that set it up without the knowledge of the higher ups. Imagine if you had access to a tower like size. You'd probably want to do the same. I definitely would for a bit of fun. Changing their company to a car wash is sketchy though.
Interesting, and now their company has the same address as the Laguna Police Department, and business records list a lawyer in New Mexico as the contact person.
It's still online, just not transmitting audible. I easily pick up it's carrier and there is some type of data transmitting, I looked into recording and running it through my equipment but honestly lost interest. Anyhow, transmitter is still active. You can find it, should you desire.
For the Brit’s in the audience or non Americans, check out New Mexico. It’s my fav, it’s beautiful and wild and has the best style of Mexican food in the country.
Yosemite Sam is a mascot emblem for the 20th Intelligence Squadron. All these years of people guessing s when it's been known by Intel community for years.
The two operators that tracked down the transmission source should have talked to the guy 'who was shouting at them not to take pictures and leave'. So they could tell him what they were doing, why they were doing it and to let him know he should tell someone in the facility that they were transmitting and drawing that kind of attention to themselves. They weren't breaking any laws and didn't have anything to fear by doing that. If it was a legitimate US Government related commo installation they would have appreciated the heads up. No one is going to be 'disappeared' simply for tracking down something like this and investigating the cause. On the other hand, foreign agents could have done the same thing and I'm assuming that would not be desirable.
If they dont want their stuff photographed they should not build it by a public roadway. Side note any of the transmissions in the allowed ham bands I am surprised that nobody keyed up and replied something "Well you are welcome to try Doc".
As for why a clip from a Bugs Bunny cartoon was used for testing, I think that one's pretty easy. The tests were done near Albuquerque, New Mexico, and one of Bugs Bunny's catchphrases is "I knew I should have taken that left turn near Albuquerque."
Best comment in the thread!
Funny enough when I came to New Mexico for work at the VLA I jokingly said "Getting to my house is simple. You take the left turn at Albuquerque and keep going"
"Albu-koikey"
i love that joke everyone makes it
Ok fingers 🤞
It is perfectly legal to video government installations as long as you do so from a public place or public right of way. Even if there is a fence, you can still video whatever you can see inside the fence line. Video from a public place is constitutionally protected.
Haha.
Good luck with that one.
That falls into the category of "yeah, maybe, but when you're face down in the mud with rifles pointed at you, who's thinking about legal fees?"
I've spent enough time around Federal law enforcement to know that their sense of right and wrong doesn't often coincide with civil rights attorneys.
as JD Stated, good luck with that, because when the firearms come out and you have nothing but a piece of RF Detection in your hands - fuck all about trying to argue with someone who has a weapon pointed at your chest.
And you might think that ALL Video/Audio recording is constitutionally protected it is not.
Especially if 18 USC 795 comes into play - i have seen people doing just that and here come the MP's and local LE - its immediate toss in the vehicle and off they go.
They claim the same thing you do, but when they get shown the very sign right in front of them warning them of it - their entire argument goes out the window. now you are looking at Patriot Act - and god forbid they slap you with that. Your private life will effectively be over.
@@CapStar362 18 -USC 795 has been ruled unconstitutional by the Surpreme Court. Also, when it was in effect, signage was required along the fence so that people would know they could not film, but again, this was thrown out. If you are in a public place, with very few exceptions, you can record what you can see. (A rare exception is the practice of "Upskirting" where someone uses a camera to film from the ground and look up women's skirts. It is illegal in many states, but not in others).
@@shenmisheshou7002 why is it still within the USC then if it was struck down.
it was not fully struck down - rather it was condensed and modified as of Dec 1 2022.
check your sources again.
And I'm well aware of how it works with the signage.
hence my comment - if signage exists - put it away.
I don’t know man, I been to some places fenced looking around and up came a MP security and sent me on my merry way.
They should have turned left at Albuquerque
Bugs Bunny fans will get that reference
Another really interesting story Lewis top notch stuff
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Me as a child: ALWAYS turn left at Albuquerque
Me as an adult: DON'T eat at Los Pollos Hermanos
Got it
And a right turn at Manjola! (Or was that Mongolia in Bugs speak?)
They'll never get to pismo beach that way.
If I remember correctly Bugs Bunny always said he should have taken a left turn at Albuquerque.
American Indian-owned company thriving again - Jan 3, 2003
LAGUNA PUEBLO, N.M. - Laguna Industries Inc., which nearly closed its doors three years ago, is on the rebound again, thanks to new federal contracts that are providing much-needed jobs for American Indians.
The Laguna Pueblo-owned company is once again one of New Mexico's largest employers, with 320 workers and nearly $30 million in business booked for the next two years.
The company broke ground recently on a new high-tech military radio frequency test range called MATIC, for Mobility Assessment Test and Integration Center.
MATIC is a 32,000-square-mile range where the military will test frequencies, radios and other aspects of communications networks, using the mesas and hills around Laguna Pueblo to simulate battlefield conditions for short-range radio equipment, said Marty Perea, who directs the facility.
NVIS stuff that will be a very rare catch unless you live near there.
Googling MATIC and Laguna Industries reveals a document entitled "Effects research test report for the National Institute of Justice (NIJ) engine stopper program". Evidently the DOJ was working on a vehicle-mounted device that would instantly stall (or destroy?) an engine from a distance of up to 100m, and they tested it at MATIC in 2010.
Now redundant as within 4 years all newly manufactured vehicles in North American will have to be remotely stoppable.
@@johngayder9249 Considering the keyless start and entry systems so prevalent in the US these days, I wonder how many would start after an EMP attack. "50 vehicles built between 1987 and 2002 were exposed to a spectrum of EMP blasts (up to 50kV/m in strength). The EMP test indicated that roughly 15% of running vehicles may shut down if exposed to an EMP blast at or over 25kV/m over a wide range of area. In other words, short of a massive solar flare, only a nuclear explosion or purpose-built EMP would create the kind of pulse needed to cause the shutdown effect to occur."
@@winstonsmith478 Just 15 percent? How effective.
The reason for the transmissions was they were looking at atmospheric effects on transmissions. That's why they did the spread of frequencies. They wanted to see how the effects changed across the spectrum. So you broadcast the signal on the test frequencies in sequence, so each one experiences the same atmospheric effects.
The did a data burst, followed by a voice, and there were possibly some other sounds in there too. Using the same one across the entire test gives you a standard to compare against. Why did they pick the voice clip they did? Probably someone thought it was funny. Most likely there were receivers scattered all over the world that were used to pick up the signal for further research. The military is very interested in communications after all.
A good example of this is GPS. The military version uses two frequencies so they can measure atmospheric delays to increase performance.
It's very obviously a ionosonde yes. Anyone with half a brain could figure that out instantly. Also "vvw and vvwh" lmao 😂 more braindead overindulgent fad content farming on subjects that always amount to nothing. The NPC TikTok disease of today smh
What I'm taking away from this:
* they were testing propagation at different wavelengths
* they used the jingle to mark the beginning of test data
* they didn't mind attracting attention at all or were currying it
If this experiment (or whatever it was) went nowhere, it's not impossible that a well-placed FOIA request could reveal more.
As is that info would not be classified. You're silly.
@@richsackett3423 Only one way to find out!
Imagine being so naive as to thinking the FOIA does anything
Like if they were forced to reveal some sketchy documents detailing some nefarious activities they've partook in, literally why *WOULDN'T* they just edit and omit information before it's release to absolve them of suspicion?
@@ianchard Go on and waste your time then.
@@richsackett3423 Much more absurd things have been revealed through FOIA. Technically there are few limitations besides national security, almost anything is available *_technically, with the properly worded request_*
One thing to remember is that in the US for about five years or so after the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks, anyone seen hanging around anywhere taking photographs was treated like some kind of potential terrorist. So whatever was going on at that site, it's no surprise these guys got chased away.
Yep I remember being told at a mall we were "terrorists" and would be "detained" if we didn't leave... for taking a selfie. That may have been the most "I'm important" mall cop I've ever seen.
god, 9/11 really turned the entire US into complete psychos.
And honestly that sentiment really has changed. Police officers, political cronies, and white-collar government/science nerds still try to act like they have the authority to stop someone else from filming something while in a public place.
So glad you covered this, I used to live in that area and would hear this broadcasting so loudly. I was kind of sad when it went off the air.
Hey! I have a friend who used to work there 2001 - 2008 the reason for the transmission was to test audio formats in the early 2000s however they decided to paise the test but the transmitting computer wouldnt stop repeating that portion so they just lowered the power and left it alone until they saw those people they suspected the people as FCC employees so they shut down the transmission tower.
Yeah, that't their story and they are sticking to it... 😅
Love it! Sounds real-world. I guess that implies they were remotely logged in from elsewhere (not surprising) to an unmanned (or at least (un-engineer-operated) site and so couldn’t just disconnect it. More pressing priorities / somebody else’s problem…
I have a cousin who worked not directly at the MATIC site, but within the same Department for DoD on Radio Technologies. It correlates the same explanation he told me as well not long ago. They thought those guys were FCC, despite not even challenging them and just assumed the FCC would be started up a inquiry.
Strangely it never happened, even though the FCC was contacted. DoD apparently already knew it was bound to happen, so internally the FCC would have seen the notice - hey, this is us - no need to investigate.
@@SSJIndy probably because a lot of people have confirmed it as such :)
The computer wouldn’t stop repeating it? Why? Could they not unplug it?
"I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids!"
oh wrong cartoon
How you find this stuff is beyond me, but im so glad you do, definately one of my favourite RUclips channels! Cant wait to see what's next.
surprised Warner Brothers didn't get there first with a cease and desist letter from the legal department.....
Given the time period of the early 2000s, likely testing a new type of burst digital data mode and seeing how well it propagated over various bands. However, whoever was conducting the broadcasts was either lazy or willfully negligent doing them on amateur bands as well as using such easily found frequencies (3700, 4300, 6500 & 10500 kHz) vs something more obscure like 4268.5 kHz.
I concur with this, given the nature of their business at the time it passes Occam's Razor. Sam's voice is very powerful and resonant so it'd be a good sound byte to use for propagation tests and instantly recognizable to recipients allowing them to identify the transmission immediately. Broadcasting on the bands they did may be down to the availability of equipment on the receiver side. They probably recruited amateurs with limited band scope.
I commented on his FB page about this - I remember this well, and a few people hypothesized that this might be testing for ALE. I know it was around then, but this could have possibly been a testing for a updated mode. I've read possibly JTRS too, but I'm not buying that one! What do you two think about that?
@@cockula776
WHAT IS A L E AND J T R S
@@jimbojimbo8 Ale is a type of beer. JTRS is something you say after you've had a few too many ales.
@@TubeDupe JTRS is something you get if stop drinking ALE.
I hope that when the guy came out and shouted at them they shouted back "You realise of course... This means war!".
"Working on improving car wash machines" seems the perfect cover story.
You won't get "How interesting, I've always dreamt of becoming a car wash engineer!" or "Hey, my brother's a car wash engineer!".
There might be something to that a couple companies just built or rehabbed dozens of car washes in the Northeast Ohio area, personally I think they’re doing something to us as we go through
It’s such an astoundingly boring job that whoever was prodding, immediately becomes disinterested gives up asking further questions.
@@shockingguy Better get the tin foil.
@@shockingguy yeah, they're washing your car
If Max & Agent 99 could use a dry cleaner shop, then I believe a Car Wash Tech firm needs a tower.
Thanks for the video via my up-vote. :)
So glad I subbed to your channel ages ago Lewis!
Your content is really interesting and just keeps getting more intriguing.
Well done as always!
Minor correction around 3:01, our time stations are actually WWV and WWVH. Very good video on this fascinating transmission!
Absolutely right haha typo in my script.‘cheers
VV prefix would be India.
They could used those different frequencies as propagation beacons although using 3,700 khz was a bad idea.
Nice video. Poking around, it looks like that site has been abandoned for at least 8 years, is has been fenced and nature has been growing thru the lot. On USAOPPs it listed them as a defense contractor for US army making communication shelters and other stuff for Raytheon and others. The other Laguna that does car wash rechnology is in Oregon, not sure if related to this site. It would be a nice explore site...
Car Wash. Remember Breaking Bad? Lol
The best number station by far!
Finally a video that explains the entire story! Would you be able to include links in the description to everything?
What bit do you want links for
@@RingwayManchester he's on to you mate, run......😂
I love these videos and shortwave oddities in general.
I heard about the Yosemite Sam broadcasts years ago; maybe it was an article in Monitoring Times. Anyway, it's great to see someone following up on this.
Interesting story. I used to work at Laguna Industries back in the mid 80s writing tech orders for the military, their main customer. All of the US Army's contracting and technical manuals were managed out of Ft Monmouth. The manufacturing facility was under contract to build mobile communications shelters for the Army. I'm glad to see that LI is still around.
It's not like they could outsource it to China. Thankfully.
The new Laguna Industries comes back as from Oregon. The few pics I seen from the NM site looks like it was abandoned. As in you see grass growing on the walkways and driveway
NDA
I interviewed and got an offer there but ended up taking an out of state job for much more money (and opportunity). It was during their shelter manufacturing days.
Your content is always interesting, Lewis. I couldn't make out what the voice was saying until you explained it in the video. Nice one as always.
Hearing Yosemite Sam referred to in a Manchester accent gives a whole new take on one of my favorite childhood cartoon characters.
Man where do you find the info for all these stories . There is not one single story that I don’t enjoy . 5 stars
Thanks mate! :)
He makes this up.
@@johnglubney3228 I don’t suppose you have any of that pesky evidence for this, do you?
Weird thing….property looks abandoned for quite awhile yet the telephone pole on the right of the driveway has pretty new looking power leads heading underground 🤔
New Mexico is a pretty spooky place, man.
Soon as you said, Military Communication Development, that immediately explained it for me. But what I’m more curious about is, why would a company go from Military research and development, to car washes
Because its a cover.
Do you really think, that with an extensive radio laboratory in the middle of the desert, away from any real population center, that they would develop car washes? I am not a conspiracy theorist, but if the U.S. military wanted that to disappear, it would. It would only take a couple of days to take down those radio towers/antennas.
Laguna Industries is the parent company, they are a tribal owned company that USED to get a lot of government contracts. They have privacy and autonomy advantages afford by the weird "separate state" status afforded to tribal government. There are A LOT of spooky government contracts on reservations.
As far as the car washes go, from what I can gather, LI had a facility that was building shelters for the military, and it was easy to convert it to build car wash equipment. Since the WOT ended, there aren't as many lucrative military contracts around, so the public face of the company transitioned to car washes.
They may still have subsidiaries that do defense research, but alot of the outside contracts for research were absorbed by DARPA a few years ago with the newest round of acquisition reforms.
@FortyFiveFudd ^ ^ ^ This
Car washes lol. more like UFO cloaking technology. be on the lookout for transmissions from another Looney Tunes character, Marvin the Martian, to their partner down the road in Roswell. 👽
The great thing about this RUclips channel is that it is now sufficiently well known for people to find who can fill in the gaps...
I don’t know that this will solve the issue… but I’ll pass on what I understand this particular transmission to be.
Much, if not all, of the US military & US intelligence community’s efforts in the realm of ‘Electronic Attack’ (signal jamming, counter jamming, etc.) is HQ’d out of Whidbey Island Naval Air Station, Washington. Much of the intelligence training command for the US Army is located at Fort Huachuca, in Sierra Vista, Arizona. My understanding is that this was a joint experiment between the two installations. I don’t know ‘how big’ or ‘how important’ the project was - only that it happened. The objective was to better understand how to deliver burst transmissions of selected data packets, under conditions considered “austere”. Interpret that term as you may. I took it to mean ‘using lower levels of encryption capability’. For whatever reasons, likely due to the topography in the desert SW being ‘similar’ to active areas of operation at that time, the project was carried out just where you noted. Additionally the transmissions were sent from mobile units in several specific locations throughout Arizona & New Mexico. There was some parallel work done also in areas of the Pacific NW, presumably out of Whidbey Island NAS, but I have no information on that. From what I understand, they wanted to operate as if much of the satellite network that the US (and all countries really) relies on so heavily was degraded or even totally disabled secondary to an attack. So they were looking at transmitting data packets ‘within’ or camouflaged by other data using different methodologies. Think of it as a sound masked underneath the voice of ‘Yosemite Sam’. If you can get a clean recording of the broadcasts, I suspect you may see (or may not) waveforms that parallel but aren’t consistent with the repeating “I’ma gonna blow your…”.
Though our adversaries understand & work on comms capabilities just as much, if not more than we do, I’m all but certain any if not all of them have worked on this same thing. Disguising or hiding operational data within something likely to be noticed but disregarded. Classified for the time it was underway - certainly. Perhaps for a period afterward. But certainly not classified today, which is why I feel comfortable passing this on. I can’t point you to them, it’s been quite a while, but I know I’ve read about this program & I believe a parallel project by other NATO nations as well, in a defense magazine or blog online.
I know they had ‘some’ success, as this wasn’t exactly a new discovery. It’s been a capability for decades since the dawn of digital comms. But perhaps it was looked upon as nearing becoming a sort of ‘lost art’ with so much dependency & reliance on modern satellite encrypted communications. Perhaps they wanted to make sure that should the worst ever happen to the satellite networks… someone remembered how to reliably do this. Because we shouldn’t kid ourselves - should international tensions ever turn ‘hot’ again, it’s something we would likely see very early on. Russia, China, even No Korea, have quite openly demonstrated their interest in knocking out satellite communications kinetically. Someone needs to keep the old(er) school capabilities an actual ‘capability’.
Take this for whatever you feel it’s worth… but that’s my understanding of THIS particular case. And it’s my ‘full’ understanding. I can’t think of anything else on this that I can pass along that’s anything more than a presumption. If this is useful to anyone in some way, I’m glad.
We really enjoy your content, especially the historical stuff. It would be all too easy for this area of interest to fall into the shadowy past. I’m thankful that so many folks maintain their interest in the field. Whether professionally or simply a hobby. It’s been proven all too often here locally, that in the arena of disaster relief, there is NO substitute for our Ham Radio Operators. In emergency management here, such as after major tornados for instance, the Hams were what proved to be crucial. When cell towers are down - people tend to edge towards panic.
All the best.
Just to add info the car wash Laguna company has no relation. I Personally know the guys who founded it about 10 years ago (worked with one of them at a former employer). They came from other car wash manufacturing companies to start their own thing.
As a former fire protection guy, I have a fanciful explanation (wild assed guess) for how a car wash manufacturer ended up at that facility. a) The original company that hosted the transmissions had a lucrative government contract to do the radio testing. b) In the boilerplate for said government contract there was a requirement for fire sprinkler protection. c) Their water supply out there was insufficient to supply said sprinkler system, so they had to invest in a significant sprinkler/firefighting water tank in order to have the sprinkler system meet code and qualify. d) When the contract was over they either sold the facility to a company who was looking for an existing building that could be easily adapted to to the installation of a large closed circuit water supply system, or, the original company thought "Well, the government contract ended, so what shall we do now...hmmm?"
That signal was of Yosemite Sam was part of a long range propagation experiment conducted by the late legendary American Pirate and American Broadcaster retired USAF communications specialist RADAR technician electrical engineer Laser 558 Ric Harris, and Radio Caroline's Geof West the legendary late Art Bell. He was doing some free lance consulting for the company at the time. His good friend and fellow American pirate Allan H. Wiener station owner operator WBCQ international shortwave and WXME medium wave and FM used to go out into the woods at night in Northern Pennsylvania, Southern New York state, and all over New England USA and run Pirate broadcasts late a night on international shortwave. Using the same Loony Tunes characters along with Allan.s head engineer and good friend Tim Smith Crystal Radio Ship. I have a good friend of mine that used to go with them. I never did broadcasting over the air without a licensee is against the law and subject to large fines and or arrest.
5:45 not the only time a car wash covered up something shady in New Mexico
XD
Anyone remember the "drunken bagpiper" station from the early 70s? It freaked me out as a kid.
Repeated the same series of notes over and over sounded like maybe a synthesizer. Can't remember if when it stopped some voice did number groups.
This screams "DARPA black project". The Laguna website looks like a shell corporation.
I love these mysteries.
Really interesting Lewis, learned a lot...........73 and merry xmas 2022, Howard MOWEM.............
I heard it when it originally aired. Laguna is less than 100 miles from me. I'd guessed it was a ham operator having a bit of fun
Great vid! From what I gathered in bits and pieces of the story over the years, was that they were just testing radio or radio-related equipment. Yes, an oddity however I never considered it a numbers stations. But none the less, still very intriguing! TYFP!
Maybe they were doing a tribute to Mel Blanc because at the end of his life he always was actually on the radio with truck drivers
It's not "VVW and VVWH," it's WWV and WWVH. Most American radio call signs start with W or K, with W originally being for the Eastern USA and K being for the Western USA.
It’s the top secret facility where Wolfman Jack broadcasts from. I saw it in “American Graffiti”.
Were it something the Gov did not want you to discover and or hear, ever, you would not.
*_"What's Up, Doc?"_* -- Bugs Bunny
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If you dont know the purpose, a possibility is to look at the result and infer the purpose.
Perhaps it was a test to measure the response time if using that location by making it easy target to find electronically.
Did they had copyright to use that sound?
I was active SWL back then, heard a lot of legends about Yosemite Sam, but had no idea what it actually was. Everyone was talking about it on the #wunclub IRC channel. I miss the good old days of analog modulation, as digital came it became a very boring world. My gear back then: 9:1 magnetic longwire balun from RF Systems w/ 20m wire, Diamond D-130J Discone (which fried two frontends, LOL!), Yaesu FRG-7700, Icom PCR-1000, Icom IC-R7000, Icom IC-R75 (w/DSP and Syncro AM mods), AOR-3000A (bought from military), Yupiteru MVT-7200, NASA VLF-3 and WR-3 VLF receivers.
Car Wash Technology. Gotta love CIA shell companies.
Just my opinion, but it seems really stupid to wave off people taking pictures. It would be so easy to have vans with hidden cameras, driving by over and over... ... not to mention dash cams. All they've done by waving people off is advertise that they've got secret things going on. And, now it's on RUclips. Nice, huh?
The mystery continues, only the possible location is resolved.
I'm just imagining angry technicians trying to figure out why their test signal isn't arriving for weeks just because they forgot a decimal point or something in their calculations
It's interesting that this is New Mexico. In 1986 the pastor of our church (who was an Air Force reserve officer) talked with me about previous active duty assignments he had worked. (I was an attack helicopter crew chief at Fort Ord California at the time) One of his assignments was in the desert in New Mexico. He mentioned that they used a shortwave repeating signal to drive to their location each day... In other words, the facility was not shown on any maps, so the only way to get there was to tune into a radio frequency and follow the signal in the general direction until they reached the facility. I asked him, "why not on any maps"? (Remember, this was the height of the cold war with Russia)
My friend/church pastor had previously worked with laser research while on active duty on the Air Force... He asked me if I was aware of the Star Wars missile defense program. I said yes, I've heard of it, but assumed it was just wishful thinking on the part of President Regan, NORAD, and the Air Force. He laughed and said "Well it was... Kind of... But it was also a very REAL active research project with HUGE government funding, and he had been signed to the test facility... In the desert in New Mexico! I believe that the Yosemite Sam repeater was the homing signal for that facility. The description and general criteria you outline here fits with what he told me. If I had not promised to him to never divulge the details of what all he confided to me that day I would like to talk about two specific projects he consulted on. One being the display they put on for Congress which secured the funding for Star Wars. (Or how an improvised problem fix created the best possible outcome when they asked for a seemingly unlimited budget!) And the other: well, let's just say that it had to do with another secret facility near Roswell, New Mexico and involved two "Men in Black" type persons who needed to know "is it possible to focus a laser finely enough to cut bone in the human skull area as evidence by an X-ray print they showed my friend. The subject of the X-ray was an Air Force airman who had disappeared in the 1950s and then mysteriously reappeared in the early 80s and was detained when he tried to enter the main gate of an Air Force Base with an expired military ID and having apparently not aged a day from when he disappeared!
I know this sounds like an X-Files episode but these two accounts were told to me nearly ten years before the X files even aired on television, and the details of what actually happened (especially in the laser research facility) make sense now when I consider how things played out afterwards. I'm really torn. There needs to be an account of these things before they are lost to history.
Anyway that's some input on the Yosemite Sam signal which corroborates a story I was told nearly 40 years ago by an Air Force lieutenant with no possible motive to embellish his story. If anyone sees this and would like to get more details so you can tell this story, let me know.
That's one for the books!
Mel Blank was the man! To this day there is NO voice actor that has the range he did in the cartoon industry. 1972- 1989. YOUR VOICE IS MISSED you have left a void that will not be filled the sector is not the same!
🟦..... Mel Blank actually became a staple in the cartoon voice-over industry in the '30s!!
I am going to make a numbers station that just spams meme sound effects
I remember this causing a stir .......its nice to see that unlicensed signals travel just as far as licensed signals ....... UK hams would've laughed this off ....but some American hams see this as a crime against humanity
Great history Lewis x
Yup. Beware of the amateur kilocycle cops!
As a longtime American ham, I can tell you that many US hams invest ridiculous pride in holding that dumb little radio license. They think it's some kind of degree, not to say knighthood; a certificate of moral superiority. So they pitch a toddler fit if anyone's out there operating without one (or outside his privileges, etc.). It's an "exclusive club" thing. Look, I'm not thrilled with illegal ops either, but your point loses some weight when your complaint is basically "mine-mine-mine".
Well said rob mac. It's just the same in the u.k check out the laughing policeman wireless society website that roasts u.k ham radio x
@@boilerroombob and CB as well, plus the air raid siren, oh and don't forget Tarzan 🤣
@@BoB4jjjjs big lol ....big 10-4
how do you find so much good content? it's amazing.
Thank you!
It's on a Indian reservation they can do whatever the hell they want and you can't do anything there that they don't want you to do. They're a sovereign Nation.
If they ask you to leave and you don't leave they'll call the local sheriff's department and have you removed. Yes they can do that.
I live an hour away in Albuquerque and I've never heard about this place. Time for a short road trip.
You want the address? Hahahah
I remember this one. I still have recordings of it, too.
3:00 The callsigns of those time stations are actually WWV & WWVH, not VVW & VVWH. Good video anyway.
I know I made a type in my script haha cheers
Something tells me that one of the workers there was an Licensed amateur. Saw those towers in dis-use and decided to have a little fun. But instead of everyone just ignoring it or just passively thinking that it was neat. Two amateurs felt the need to play fcc and police the band.
The individual or individuals doing it might have thought they where immune due to being on a reservation.( sovereign nation )
So when the ham goons showed up they where quickly told to cut it out and don’t do it again..
Quite frequently the FCC works with or notifies area ham or section leaders of signal interference and jamming issues. It's part of the hams responsibility to help find the source of the interference and report it. That's why we practice "Fox Hunting" transmitter hunting. It's good fun.
Two points: One, the Amateur Radio Service is and always has been self-policing, as a way of protecting allocated spectrum from commercial interests that stand ready to cite the misuse of Amateur bands as a means to grabbing a larger slice of the EM pie. And two, radio enthusiasts of all stripes enjoy a good radio mystery, and many enjoy the challenge of solving them.
Radio direction finding is one of the many parts of the hobby that I enjoy!
"Ham goons?" Oh yes, they were brutally, violently, pointing an antenna around.
Called KAREN HAM
It's weird the way the power lines distort the picture of the cell phone tower
Noticed that too, Either the emi caused the distortion on the camera sensor, or it was a still frame taken from the vide and that is from the rolling shutter.
my guess is that they chose the ham bands so that if they were discovered, they could blame it on someone in the ham community abusing their privileges.
People are always listening. Pirates and spectrum abusers think they cannot get caught, this proves otherwise.
In other words, ham operators can always be counted on to report on anyone who uses their playground without being a part of their club.
@@caulkins69 Pretty much. Radio is an cool subject with lots of interesting and funny stories but I would never involve myself in it.
Isn’t 80m a poop show as well? They even know their calls, but no one does anything?
@@caulkins69 hams 🤝 police
Yeah, as an aspiring HAM operator I can not get over how self righteous a lot of the people in the hobby are. Like having the ability to transmit is a gift from god. It's very off putting to me as someone trying to get into it
One of the most fascinating mysteries you've posted yet!
It went off the same day the guy approached the car, so it wasn't some random guy who set that up. It was the people who owned that building, or a worker that set it up without the knowledge of the higher ups. Imagine if you had access to a tower like size. You'd probably want to do the same. I definitely would for a bit of fun. Changing their company to a car wash is sketchy though.
Spotted the Albuquerque connection immediately. Also the WWV WWVH mistake.
Interesting, and now their company has the same address as the Laguna Police Department, and business records list a lawyer in New Mexico as the contact person.
Brilliant post Lewis, I've copied some odd signals on SDR,..👍👍
Was this the only number station in new Mexico and where was this one located ruffly
Love these videos
Fascinating stuff, cheers!
Thanks Dan 😊 we had fun with Mars !
It's still online, just not transmitting audible. I easily pick up it's carrier and there is some type of data transmitting, I looked into recording and running it through my equipment but honestly lost interest. Anyhow, transmitter is still active. You can find it, should you desire.
2:53 my 4th birthday
so what was the military contractor doing broadcasting and for who?
If you have never taken a left in Albuquerque, you need to put it on your bucket list. I have done it.
For the Brit’s in the audience or non Americans, check out New Mexico. It’s my fav, it’s beautiful and wild and has the best style of Mexican food in the country.
Arizonas got the best Mexican Food, no contest
Great video as always!
This would make the beginnings of a great novel
Yosemite Sam is a mascot emblem for the 20th Intelligence Squadron. All these years of people guessing s when it's been known by Intel community for years.
Brilliant. Can we have a video about satcom jammers please :-)
From the website -- "On contract with CECOM, Ft. Monmouth, NJ" -- perhaps the NSA was nearby.
Or Fort Huachuca.
3:00 Did you mean WWV and WWVH? Those ar ethe U.S. time stations on 10 and 15 MHz.
The broadcast came from the desert in Albuquerque, New Maxico...
I think Heisenberg is back
Sooooo; what do you think about the HF facility located at Nutt NM?
The two operators that tracked down the transmission source should have talked to the guy 'who was shouting at them not to take pictures and leave'. So they could tell him what they were doing, why they were doing it and to let him know he should tell someone in the facility that they were transmitting and drawing that kind of attention to themselves. They weren't breaking any laws and didn't have anything to fear by doing that. If it was a legitimate US Government related commo installation they would have appreciated the heads up. No one is going to be 'disappeared' simply for tracking down something like this and investigating the cause. On the other hand, foreign agents could have done the same thing and I'm assuming that would not be desirable.
They should have been fined for transmitting without a legal callsign. That violates FCC regulations.
If they dont want their stuff photographed they should not build it by a public roadway.
Side note any of the transmissions in the allowed ham bands I am surprised that nobody keyed up and replied something "Well you are welcome to try Doc".
Superb. Maybe it was to put people off the scent of something else?
If the chaps in charge know how to do anything right, it's exactly that
I think the frequency chaanges are ALE (Automatic link establishment) ,so the question is' who tallked back?
Weird.
When I first heard The Lincolnshire Poacher about 40 years ago I thought that it might be oil production figures!
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
I always thought that data burst sounded an awful lot like JORN
Wolfman Jack? Hot Mercy!