Multi-Item Sorter V5 [Moony MIS]
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- Never thought we'd have a new version!
Big thanks to @MoonyInspired for moving this system forward!
Thanks to @enbyd, Hexatron and cawolX for playtesting. Make sure you have Carpet Mod installed when checking out the WDL. Keep your View Distance and Simulation Distance to at least 16 chunks.
Check us out on the Storage Tech Discord: / discord
World Download: www.mediafire.com/file/ztsh7z...
Schematics: www.mediafire.com/file/bkj1dn...
World Design: minecraft-max.net/maps/117720/ by Diezel0468
Music:
- Wolf Moon: • Unicorn Heads - Wolf Moon
- A Trip Around the Moon: • Unicorn Heads - A Trip...
- Moonlight Sonata: • Beethoven - Moonlight ...
0:00 Intro
0:18 MIS V4.2 Overview
2:13 MIS V5 Overview
3:02 MIS V5 Rail Placement
4:02 Lag Comparisons
4:59 Item Gate (REQUIRED)
5:13 Summary
5:36 Build Tutorial (SEE PINNED)
14:27 1-Wide Tileable
14:36 Outro 
Игры
Hi Everyone, I've been seeing a lot of support related questions lately. I unfortunately don't have much time to respond or troubleshoot everyone's issues. I encourage you all to go to the Storage Tech Discord for help: discord.gg/JufJ6uf. I assure you, this system still works in current versions (Java only). If you're having trouble, you messed up somewhere.
Also, remember that the tutorial does miss one redstone dust at the very top of the blue concrete (thx @MathewSnowie).
Hello peeps, Moony here! 🌜👋
As an old time fan of this channel, i am so happy to have worked in this project with you! The inspiration got me into a mission and i am so happy to finally add into the storage community. Theres always something to try and a new way to make things.
Thank you so much for the support, and thank you even more, raps, for your help and this beautiful showcase! Theres a lot more minecraft to play!
Moony my beloved
Glad to see a video on it Moonly! Knew you were hype about it
@@Heilzmaker when the cube is colored as red
@@MSReidpr and i am still now!!
Why aren’t you in the video Mooney? The slice literally has your name. ):
Per slice, you need(if i counted correctly):
15 redstone dust (29 for 2 slices)
4 redstone torch
5 powered rails
2 activator/powered rails
2 comparator (3 for 2 slices)
1 repeater
1 composter (1 for 2 slices)
2 chests
11 glass
11 solid blocks
5 hopper
8 observer
6 dropper
54 blocker items
22 filter items
For the item gate you additionally need:
4 Hopper
2 (Input) Chests
1 Composter (for lag reduction on hopper)
6 Solid Blocks
2 Comparator
7 Redstone Dust
1 Redstone Torch
1 Target Block
2 Observer
1 Noteblock
6 Glass
1 Redstone Repeater
22 Filter Items
crazy impressive how much simpler this is compared to V4.2
awesome stuff! i will definitly build this
Thank you so much!
Fantastic! MoonyInspired RaPsCaLLioN1138, i am so excited to see progress in this field. Truly 2 of the most underrated players in the game today. Raps your videos have come along way, i really like the direction you are moving! Good work guys!
Brilliant design - ever new world I start, I come back to this channel and I'm delighted to find an even better design. This is for sure the best one yet. Thank you very much for all the effort!
Thank you so much for putting in the time to make this video so clean. And ofc big thanks Moony for making picking up building my own MIS a bit less daunting of a task 😅
this is awsome!! exactly what ive been waiting for. time to rebuild my storage again :D
Not this amazing thing dropping right after I finished setting up v4.2 XD amazing work
No, this will not work on Bedrock.
Awwwww, sadge
@@Kayzm was about to write that exact reply
will it work on my gameboy color?
@@daveguy_ 🤣
Will it run Doom?
Still some progress on this awesome MIS ! It’s Still really impressive how you can improve redstone that much even after so many versions
Awesome tech! I am going to include this beauty in my UFO storage build.
I really appreciate the work you do and the video documentation of these brilliant designs. I thought MIS couldn't be improved upon until new blocks or mechanics were introduced but luckily I was wrong.
Gratz moony!!
If your items are flowing into the filter chest here's two things you can check:
1. Check and clear the dropper elevators around the filter chest because an item might be stuck in there and can mess up the system. This has only happened to me once so it might be pretty uncommon.
2. The item gate would stop throttling the flow of items when switching to a new item from the input chest. This would consistently put items in the filter chests and I'd have to reset that filter. A fix that worked for me was to put the repeater on the item gate to two ticks instead of the default one tick. So far so good, but if it stops working again I'll make an edit.
Other than that issue, the system works great and was fun to build!
Thank You!!!! I built the mis 4.2, but it kept failing, and I never figured out why… then i built the mis 5 and was so happy that it worked… until after 1 day, with the same problem. Turns out there were items in the droppers. So happy to finaly know the problem!!!!!!!
Glad the fix worked for you!@@johannespettersen
I believe you have found a bandaid fix by slowing the speed of the input, but the root of the problem is likely that there are still items lodged in some droppers from unloading the machine while it was running. Be sure to check every dropper in the system, including the droppers connecting the input to the sorters, and the ones connecting the sorters to other sorters, any single item in one of those droppers will cause these issues. If this turns out to be the case, then you shouldnt have to slow down the system to get it to function properly.
Moony pog! Definitely gonna use this, good work!
Nice to see you emdy!
Thank you for this amazing upgrade! Just came back to a world where I wanted to build a 4.2 MIS and this one is so much more survival friendly.
I have found another inconspicuous mistake which cost me way too much time: Make sure your item gate is built high enough up because the hopper below the filter hopper is locked (pretty obvious in hindsight). If it is built pointing sideways, a single item will get stuck on item changes and sneakingly keep breaking the filter chests.
sorry to bring this up 9 months later, could you provide screenshots on how you fixed this? having this same issue but havnt trouble seeing what you explained
@@ThatGuyPresley Let me see if I remember this right, if you pause the video at about 14:11 and check how the item gate looks from the front, make sure your hoppers look exactly like this. Because I thought I could optimize for height and had the second hopper (next to the composter) already pointing to the right, but it must be facing down for the item gate to work. So my fix essentially was to break down and rebuild the item gate 1 block higher so there can be a hopper facing down in this spot.
this is the most important video ive ever need to see about storage.
Very excited about this, I unfortunately havent been able to play much recently but when i eventually return i definitely want to rebuild by small storage with this
It was mind blowing when I saw the tricky for align the rails. Thanks God I won't need to build my whole system again.
Love it, such an elegant design! :D
Thank you so much!
This is so sick ❤
Thank you!
@@MoonyInspired you did such an amazing job!
@@ryanthescion 🌜💕💕
@@MoonyInspired I've finally put together a little setup of the system that I'll be building on probably the flatline smp and my own superflat series that im working on, though I have no idea when itll be done
@@ryanthescion oh my god this is incredible! Ive been watching your videos for some time and i was really hoping i would see this, but i didnt think you would tell me. I am very happy and very excited to see it and whatever you do with it. Thats awesome, thank you so much ryan
aYO?? I've been studying v4 for a billion years and i could never figure out how to build it and you upload this!?? that's so sickkk
Esp since now its a bottom up build so i dont have to guess where to start in my survival
This is the type of thing i wanted to read
@@MoonyInspired Yeah man I'm pretty sure I built it first try but I'm not sure if there's supposed to be 2 of the item in the filter chest so I'll need to troubleshoot that
But it's definitely a lot more approachable so thanks a bunch :)
@@NonJohns we usually do have 2 there for safety purposes! 1 should be fine, but two increases reliability a lot!!
@@MoonyInspired Epicccc I just need to make the item clock at the start and its finished wahooo
Gotta love moony's and your dedication, looking forward to the MIS storage!
Incredible work as always*]
I built version 4 + 4.2 and they both work incredibly well probably the most expensive thing is the barrels lol you know one thing I found with making these multi-item storage systems is using light matica really helps make the building of it a lot easier
This is awesome! Thanks Rap and Mooney for your work!
Very cool. The tutorial misses one redstone dust at the top of the blue concrete though
big, BIG thing. Thank you so much.
Thank you for catching this!
@@RaPsCaLLioN1138 If I take a schematic for litematica from the world download and build off that will I avoid this missing redstone problem?
@@phantomphoenix9539 The redstone dust is present in the world download and in the schematics provided.
hi could you provide a timestamp?
Great video! Didn't think to ever see an update of the MIS. Great work everyone who worked on it!
having an issue with items getting dropped in the chest instead going through? check the hopper elevator if a random Item is stuck the system might get that one messing with sorting. went through an hour of troubleshooting till sending it to raps. quick response and he figured it out in less than an hour.
love this
Looks pretty easy. I will use it if I build a new base.
Hopefully it won‘t break in future versions of Minecraft Java as I am about to build this masterpiece multiple times in my 1.20.2 survival world for my storage system as well.
thats intresting!
wow this video is done with such clarity man, great job. going to have fun building this and figuring it out, feels like legos
This is one very complicated system. I would love a full breakdown of a single unit.
But I think I managed to understand it well enough.
1 input hopper receives item. Input hopper has only one itemslot, so only holds one type of item at a time.
2 input hopper attempts to pull item from indexer(?) chest.
3 One item falls from input hopper into the bottom of a dropper elevator, with the exit-hopper beneath.
3a if the item was a match with the indexer, the item is allowed into the exit hopper, this state continues untill the input hopper is empty.
3b If the item was not a match with the indexer, a clock-like circuit will run that precicely will lock the exit hopper, while it runs the dropper elevator.
4 The item travels up the dropper elevator to exit by the indexer.
5a If the item is a match, the item is deposited into the indexer, returning an item from step 2.
5b is the item is not a match, the item drops into a hopper feeding the input of the next segment. Repeat from step 1 until sorted, or dumped into unsorted silo.
As for overflow...
On the single unit I tested it on, it clogged the system, causing wrong items into storage when I cleared the clot.
Is this system vulnerable to overflow? Or is there some kind of built-in protection I don't realize?
The bypass I see, is to add an emergency stop the the item-feed when a storage silo nears capacity.
ah. Just found the overflow system. Clever. I was only looking at the sorter units, not the storage silo.
insane
very cool
great video! I'll try to build it :D may I ask what shaders and resources are you using? they look beautifully good for redstone
Had the V5 up on Quasar SMP for a week or so now as part of a temp MS.
Been great.
As someone who isn't part of the storagetech community but loves watching these developments - thanks! And what are the pros/cons for a system like this that is hopper speed vs the minecart-based systems like Lummie Thief's?
Simplicity, cost, lag effectiveness... those are the key benefits.
I keep running into a problem on 12:25 were the item goes into the chests at the bottom rather than the small one, i re built the machine many times and it still doesn’t work, do you have any idea why?
Hey! Can you please tell me, what mod you're using? Cause I don't remember the mod to passe through blocs during the fly on creative. Also, I would like to know the texture pack for the overlay in chest! It would be appreciate! Thanks if you reply !
I agree, totally awesome cooperation and videos keep improving. Very inspiring piano music too 😉
I legit just finished building my storage with the 4.2 and now I see this
So I've been here for an hour thinking ah yes Moonlight Sonata, what a classic uhuh.
Now it hit me. Better late than never
oh my. I had not realised that until you commented it.
What texture pack are you using for the signla strength of redstone?
Does it break if I input non stackable items? and also how sensitive is it to unloading / leaving the server? and when it breaks and i just remove the stuck items in the dropper, will it sort it self out? (pun intended). Besides that, awesome video!
hypee
Hi RaPsCaLLioN, is it safe to build this in spawn chunks in singleplayer and “Save and quit to title” while it is running from anywhere in the world?
I’m just scared it might happen accidentally. Thanks
What mod are you using to show the comparator strength charts while in an inventory?
can someone explain to me why my sorting system is not working
i build it the exact same way and some filters just decides to stack the filter inside the chest to 64 items and then the filter items that i want to sort go straight to the NOT sorted chest
What is this pseudo-spectator mode you’re in where you can still place blocks but don’t collide with them?
i have a problem on spigot server. it maybe need interval between item types. MIS broke with this item gate 5:02.
The items that pass through the item gate are in order, but the order of the items changes every time they pass through the slice.
how can i solve this?
Yeeeeee :D
I have a question in the world download i can go throug every block how have you done that i really need to know
Hey are you planning to upgrade the mis V2 you made with gangles using this upgraded version
mfw just want to check out new sorting thing and suddenly adventure map. great job on both, thank you! :D
in the world download, is it intentional that the hopper line for overflow items isn't connected from left to right side in the 1-wide version?
Not intentional. Thanks for catching that.
Nice catch!
@@RaPsCaLLioN1138 I guess you have allready fixed this? Because I cant indentify this mistake in the world download.
What is that texture pack for the hopper signal strengths?
why is it sometimes the items dont go through the hoppers and stay in the upper double chests?
verry good
Such an amazing build!
I wanted to ask, what are your shaders??
Overimagined Shaders: ruclips.net/video/tJBoYaol3f4/видео.html
Thank you!
Ey Rapscallion! What do you think about minecart multi item sorter? What do you recomend for a survival world? This type of MIS or minecart MIS?
Depends on your comfort level with each and personal preference... also how much you plan to store.
This tutorial was an absolute nightmare to follow in survival
I would be grateful that people still bother when litematica exists.
hey, sorry if this question has been asked before, I don't know anything about what causes server lag with redstone and all that.
I play on a mostly vanilla (has fabric) multiplayer server and it usually holds 3-8 players during peak hours. Will all this redstone lag the server compared to other item sorter designs?or is it usually safer to use?
Totally safe. Like many redstone build though, best to build outside of spawn chunks.
Automatic Hopperlocking for the chests below would be nice
I built a storage hall with 48 of the previous version, but never got it to work reliably enough for it to be useful. idk if it was from something I did wrong or what unfortunately. I'm intending on tearing it down and replacing them with V5 if it'll still fit!
hi ive been running into an issue where items are staying in the shorting chests i dont know what this issue is ive spent 4 hours on it -builder
im having another problem of items not going back into the shorting chest so im ending up with one as well
Does it matter to build it 2 by 2 slices? Will slice by slice building OK, cause it's difficult to reach some blocks in first variant
You can build it slice by slice too. Theres no real best way on doing it. Whatever you find easier
anyone know why the filter hopper is now taking 64 item of the item im sorting ? any fixs ?
good sir, is there anyway to twist the sorting system around to get it on multiple walls in a room
as a redstone enthousiast im nothing short of impressed. well done! hopefully i can recreate it in my survival world
Damn I love this MIS. Too bad I won't build it in my SMP for it is too slow.
Is this supposed to be safe to load and unload while it's sorting if each slice is located within a single chunk?
what mod do u use for clipping through blocks in creative?
The storage system break ea time i log out of my single player world while the sorter is running. Is it possible to make a switch to turn the sorter off?
Can I just add more chests below by adding hoppers and chests?
Does it matter if you put 15 filters in the 2nd slot, and then 4 items? Or can you just put all 19 in at the same time?
All 19 at the same time is fine.
Are the items supposed to overflow? Like in the sorting chests I get 64 items and then it starts to get all messed up in the last chest on the left side so that a bunch of items get placed into that chest instead of sorting properly.
i had that aswell; it's because there is one redstone dust (per slice) missing in the tutorial behind the top blue concrete
Having a issue with the design so if I put in say 64 cobble then I put in anything less that follows those items stay in the filter chest when they get sorted
That would be a problem on the item gate. Does the issue still persist?😊
Hello guys
I have an issue with the MIS, when I fill the upper chest with two units of the items I want to sort out + the fillers, my items got stacked up in the upper chest rather than going down what did I go wrong ?
I think of two things... I am either unsure whether I made a mistake during the building of the MIS (checked a dozen times tho) or I need to fill absolutely every chest above (with my items and fillers) before attempting a test ?
any help would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
I have same problem, did you solve this?
Make sure your item input gate is built high enough up because the hopper below the filter hopper is locked. If it is built pointing sideways, a single item will get stuck when the item in the filter changes and sneakingly keep breaking the filter chests.
I know this whole thing doesn't work on Bedrock, but does anyone know if that core filter chest mechanic itself can be replicated on Bedrock in a different way?
I built the more dense sorter that was in the world file and for some reason only every other chest is able to sort correctly, the ones that are not sorting correctly just fill the items into the filter chest. Do you know why this might be happening? When I made a duplicate ofyour original sorter in creative and changed some of the cosmetic blocks I had the same issues but the blocks I changed had nothing to do with the redstone. In litmatica I don't see any issues
im having the same problem.
@@Matvayy I checked for awhile and it is just items stuck in the droppers somewhere, it has happened to me a few times but it stopped once I made chunk loaders that cover the whole build.
Did you changed your skin or you are a different guy? I built almost every version of this multi-sorter in my survive world everytime a new version comes out. It is very exciting to know you are still upgrading this.
Raps has changed his skin, yeah!
Have you considered a solotion to increas the sorter chest in each module? As more and more different types of wood are updated, one sorter chest will not be able to hold all types of wood and plank. Another example is to have all slabs, stairs, fence together with thrie wood type. Right now, my solution is to have multipe modules of sorters feed in to one module of storage chests, whitch is very space inefficient. I wish you could come up with something.
What is the difference between version 5 and the last one?
What shader/ resource pack are you using it looks amazing
Overimagined Shaders: ruclips.net/video/tJBoYaol3f4/видео.html
im having some trouble with items with a max stack value of 16 is it normal that they don't get filtered proprely?
Not actually, they should be sortes exactly the same
Third, best video on RUclips
Hey not sure if this question has been asked, but when I load items into the sorter (built using a schematic of your design in the world download) items are stacking up with their deisgnator items in the filter-chests (with blockers) and not being pulled down into their respective places. Also designator items in the filter-chests are being pulled through entirely sometimes as well. So getting problems of too much and too little.
I have different filters/blockers (cobbled deepslate named "filter" and tuff named "BLOCKER") and even kelp named "FILTER" in the item loader at the very beginning.
Example: Items that are unable to be filtered due to the stack present in a filter-chest are brought to the last filter-chest in the first section (or the lefthand side in your world download example build before the transfer to right side) where the original designator item is subsequently removed and then most/all items that wouldn't go through (from the original issue) pile up.... only some make it to unsorted.
Really love the design, just hope to get it working. If this explanation isnt clear (which it was hard to explain) I hope to clarify if i can. Cheers
Discord?
The only issue that I can find is that underneath some of the composters the redstone is linking with the rail rather than turning which is how it is shown in the righthand example in the world download
@@RaPsCaLLioN1138 I joined the Storage Tech Discord
@@Stingrr shoot me a message
I'm having this issue too, any fix yet, could be the same issue im dealing with.
does it break when you leave the download on the server?
In your world, the overflow of the first row isn't linked to the second row, it could clod the system in case of a massive overflow. Otherwise it's an amazing miss, I plan on building it :)
Does this still work in 1.20? (Also is it a problem to use this in a server?
hello, I built your mechanism in my world and I have a problem, I created everything according to the schematic and put it in the right sequence and it worked, but at one moment it just broke, for some reason the objects go to the filters, everything is also set and there are no stuck blocks anywhere in elevators, what's the matter I can't understand
Hit me up on Discord. 50% of the time it breaks because it was unloaded and items are stuck in droppers, the other 50% it's because you built it wrong. I can help you figure out which side you fall on.
based
How are you able to place blocks while being inside of a block in creative? and pass through blocks?
/carpet creativeNoClip true
What is the point of the addition at the end? Is it safe to simply feed hoppers into the filter hopper below the blocker chest at the start of the chain?
The green bit? That's the item gate. Items need to run through it before going to the sorters.
same question here, what do I need the item gate for and why can't I just feed items into the first hopper of the chain?
I keep having the chests fill up with items before overflowing and causing the filters to come out. Built based on your world downoad schematic, confused as where to even start troubleshooting.
Hit me up on Discord I'll see if I can help.
Very nice sorter. I tested the world download. If I put alternating stacks in the input chest of the V5 sorter where you compared V5 and V4. It breaks the sorter but in your finished desings it still works(doesnt break), why ?
Both work just fine in the world download. So I'm going to go out on a limb to say you either broke something or are using it incorrectly.
@@RaPsCaLLioN1138 same problem here.. download your version of the world but it works only the final design and not the others.. can't understand why...
@@SaminConviction you need to use the item gate.
can you just build it layer by layer? and is it only 1.19+
I have a problem where when sorting the items the items just sort into the "filter" chest rather than being sent down into the chest, do you know what might be causing this problem. I am also in the storage tech discord and trying to find an answer in the storage help chat.
did you find ?
@@anzen04 dont forget the filter items in the hopper below the item gate, if different items go trough to fast it breaks the chest filters