PETG VS Carbon Filled PETG tested, is carbon fiber better?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @FlechetteArchery
    @FlechetteArchery Год назад +22

    some good tests, but as was stated earlier, it would be better with a quality CF filament. You can get good cheap 'standard' filaments, but once you start adding fillers like CF, you have to be careful. most of the cheaper ones will use milled CF powder, just to say it has CF, but all that really does is make the filaments brittle with little added benefit (other than looking pretty 😀).
    I personally like 3dxtech. Wish prusa would make a petg-CF (kinda surprised they dont)
    I'm also not a big fan of using just the hard-break numbers. Sure that's still good to know, but in most functional parts, once you've stretched past a certain point and the part is permanently deformed, then in most cases it's considered 'broke' in terms of it's usability.
    Still appreciate the channels that take the time to do the tests like these. Thanks.

    • @lezyne1234
      @lezyne1234 11 месяцев назад

      Prusa now offers PETG with carbon fiber. I bought a spool but havent printed it yet.

    • @geometerfpv2804
      @geometerfpv2804 11 месяцев назад

      He is using peak force, not "point of hard break" as far as I can tell. When the part elongates, the force drops.

  • @robeckel4965
    @robeckel4965 7 месяцев назад +2

    No surprise here. Thanks for doing the testing, I like seeing these kinds of videos.

  • @CalMariner
    @CalMariner 3 месяца назад +1

    Perfect video! Perfect format, length, test methods. Thank you!

  • @craigandrew6409
    @craigandrew6409 Год назад +7

    The biggest reason I use CF Petg is it's much better resistance to warping during print

  • @RandalTurnerMKULTRA
    @RandalTurnerMKULTRA Год назад +15

    Not sure why so many people think cf added to these materials would make it stronger, adding a stronger material to softer material will just make the material weaker in area's where the cf is most concentrated. If you did a compression test you would find the cf mix slightly stronger but when you have to bend or pull the material it is going to be weaker where ever the cf is concentrated in the material, this will be the case in every mix, Nylon cf will have the same reaction.

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  Год назад +5

      True, i do think the main benefit is lack of warping using cf nylon. And it's stiffer but lacks the strength.

    • @ctrlaltdebug
      @ctrlaltdebug Год назад +5

      You trade ultimate tensile strength (toughness) for Young's Modulus (stiffness), so if you need a part that is as stiff as PLA but with a higher heat resistance, it would be worth it.

    • @MiG82au
      @MiG82au 10 месяцев назад +7

      Adding a strong material to a weak matrix is what the whole concept of composite materials is. It works, provided that the fibres are long enough to transfer load to and from the matrix. There's a big difference between chocolate grade CF filaments and high quality (and expense) engineering CF filaments. Unfortunately this one looks like one of the yum cha PETG-CFs that don't make any claims about performance.

    • @m3chanist
      @m3chanist 5 месяцев назад +3

      Composite materials are some are the strongest around, Any carbon fibre part isn't made out of pure carbon fibre you realise right? They are epoxy carbon composite.

  • @rosiebun28
    @rosiebun28 Год назад +2

    actually very helpful for my research! I was hoping to see if CF PETG would be better than PETG for my specific use of printing a guitar core, I believe the stiffer CF will likely give me better results with the constant pressure from the strings and less warping over time than standard PETG.

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  Год назад

      Yes those are the key reasons to go for CF filled filaments

  • @Catboy-hr2qp
    @Catboy-hr2qp Год назад +1

    Pretty much validates what I expected, I've just started printing with petg but wouldn't use it for functional prints as is, but cf petg looks to act identical to a good pla with the added heat resistance petg

  • @striknoir772
    @striknoir772 2 года назад

    great video! I was expecting these differences and was looking for more information, thanks!

  • @NoizieWorks
    @NoizieWorks  2 года назад +4

    The slow mo really sounded like a bomber or artillery right? What would you like to see next?

    • @LCDsim
      @LCDsim 2 года назад

      I want that BEER! 🤪

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  2 года назад

      Sure! Come over 😅

  • @fly4fun24
    @fly4fun24 2 месяца назад

    I printed a logo for my 2005 Lincoln Navigator Front grill in PLA , It looked beautiful with a silver insert. The first day in the heat of Florida, that thing melted down beyond recognition. I took 5 days doing the design at onshape for perfect fitting for nothing. How about a video on Heat Resistance Filaments if there is one !!!

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @bobert4522
    @bobert4522 2 года назад +2

    Wish you had used a more name brand CF Petg, as the formula for the petg itself could vary greatly.

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  2 года назад +4

      True! Maybe in the next comparison 🙂 thx for the tip

  • @dodgersfnshepard8673
    @dodgersfnshepard8673 25 дней назад

    So what do you recommend for an ender s1 pro? I was under the impression I could print this without mods

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  24 дня назад

      Hardend nozzle should be all you need

  • @alexanderj4545
    @alexanderj4545 Год назад

    Great background! Where are the cabinets and table from?

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Cabinets are from a dutch company called HBM (chinese importer with a store) and the table is something i made myself ruclips.net/video/p0Lp6XvdlcQ/видео.html

  • @alexxu3004
    @alexxu3004 Год назад +2

    what i find is petg thick wall will crystalize and shatter like glass, cf stops that and actually make the part less brittle

    • @hayden9944
      @hayden9944 11 месяцев назад

      Try printing a clear PETg - Dry it first too.
      I am finding clear or even translucent PETG less brittle.
      It does still depend on print settings. If u try it let me know. Because what I have found may be coincidental.

  • @vd853
    @vd853 7 месяцев назад

    I don't get CF. I have some samples so I tried it. It looks exactly the same as any black matte PLA.

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  7 месяцев назад

      Mostly stiffer result and a bit more heat resistant that's about it

  • @rocioguevaraobando9075
    @rocioguevaraobando9075 2 года назад

    Gracias. Thanks. Merci.

  • @aleksanderpusz892
    @aleksanderpusz892 10 месяцев назад

    How does PA12CF15 compare to PETG-CF? Is PA12 stronger?

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  10 месяцев назад +1

      I will have to test it 😉

  • @speezguy
    @speezguy 7 месяцев назад

    In my experience, PETG shatters when dropped PETG CF does not.

  • @usefullprintables
    @usefullprintables Год назад

    are you from the netherlands ? When i hear youre accent ;) i should think so )

  • @Druze_Tito
    @Druze_Tito Год назад

    The CF PETG has a better hardness. That makes it more fragile or in eng. terms - lower tensile strength.

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  Год назад

      That's what she said! 😅

    • @Druze_Tito
      @Druze_Tito Год назад

      @@NoizieWorks Oh, hey there! :) Do you like beets?

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  Год назад

      Love them

    • @MiG82au
      @MiG82au 10 месяцев назад

      You're jumbling up all the material properties. I think by fragile you mean brittle, which has nothing to do with tensile strength. Hardness is strongly correlated to tensile strength, so no, higher hardness does NOT mean lower tensile strength, literally the opposite.

  • @SplitPhotography
    @SplitPhotography Год назад

    A little more time showing each result i testing would be nice. It was sp short that almost impossible to see without rewinding and pausing. Interesting channel tho, and result 😊

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  Год назад

      Noted and thanks! This was my first, already show them longer on the resin testing but gonna compile them to bar graphs so it's more nice to look at.

    • @SplitPhotography
      @SplitPhotography Год назад

      @@NoizieWorks ok, awesome. Keep it up 👌😁

  • @kaijub143
    @kaijub143 Год назад

    Video i am looker for good job

    • @ctrlaltdebug
      @ctrlaltdebug Год назад

      I read that as "I am hooker" lol

  • @Erick_The_Green
    @Erick_The_Green 4 месяца назад

    Do those same tests when both filaments are at 50C

  • @RickyDeLaur
    @RickyDeLaur Год назад

    Love cfpetg:)

  • @ddbear8786
    @ddbear8786 Год назад

    It's because this is not really carbon fiber filament, but rather it's PETG sprinkled with carbon fiber fragments. The strength of normal carbon fiber is in the structure of the material which is ruined when it's only chopped up and mixed into something else.

    • @geometerfpv2804
      @geometerfpv2804 11 месяцев назад

      Not really...a good CF filament does have real advantages. They are just quite expensive. This is not one of them. Having chopped CF whose fibers align during extrusion does offer high modulus as well as tensile strength. 3dx-tech is an example of a brand that can really put down the numbers.

  • @parvariramin
    @parvariramin Год назад

    Are all PTAG carbon fiber filaments? What is the temperature of the hot plate and nozzle for carbon fiber printing? And what should be the material of the nozzle?

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  Год назад +1

      You need hardend nozzles, temp is depending on the brand but for petg cf it's 60c bed and 225 nozzle in my case

  • @lionblaze3522
    @lionblaze3522 16 дней назад

    i dont li

  • @AnotherCG
    @AnotherCG 9 месяцев назад

    Video too old. There is no VS anymore. One can get CF in nearly every filament.

    • @NoizieWorks
      @NoizieWorks  9 месяцев назад

      Yup! New video is in the planning

  • @spazmatazz
    @spazmatazz Год назад +1

    My wife chose 'good looks and stiffness' 😳😏