Thiiiissssss lmao I'm like yes there's some hierarchy battle, but these are mainly mares they're BIIIIG moody Bs😅😂😂 love them all so much even if they are rotten at times.
Lester I think it will take time for Storm and Prim get used to each other. You and Jami will have to try and make sure they all get attention. It's just like when you have kids, by the time Lex came LE was probably already used to sharing the love from a parent
Storm is just telling her she's below her. You entered the herd. Sometimes I put my halter and lead in a bucket. They won't walk away from a bucket. Giving her a treat once she's haltered is positive reinforcement.
Yes that would work or simply keep it behind your back. Lester you provoked that little bit of jealousy from Storm by moving to Prims right side rather that left side. And you probably did that for the camera shot.
Lester,you needed to go to Ivy after Storm bit her .Just saying I hope you're ok ,didn't show her any love,and continuing petting Storm is letting her know being bad to Ivy is ok.
Hi Lester, I am not a horse person but I could not help but wince when Storm bit the donkey and then you went right back to loving her. To me that let's storm know that that behavior is acceptable.
This is normal behavior, it’s okay for Storm to establish quiet dominance over Prim. They’ll work it out and it will be fine. It’s less jealousy and more dominance and the horses know what’s going on. It’s common, they’re not fighting, just establishing pecking orders. Don’t worry about this.
Lester, remember when the ABCs were discovered next to JL ranch. All 3 were males were tearing each other up. So far with these girls they aren't doing that.
Yeah I'm not very versed or educated in horses but I watch a few other channels with horses. Free Spirit Equestrian and The Clever Cowgirl and they always plan out which horses and pastures they go in and plan it out very carefully. It seems like it's not a very good idea to change the pastures out on them too often or unless it's absolutely necessary.
Well, what I did was put a lead around my neck every time I was in the pasture. Feeding grooming, working, whatever. After a couple of times, it never bothered my horses anymore. My mare used to run to the opposite side of pasture . Then she was missing out. She wanted attention more than her concern over a lead.
I was looking for this comment. I also wear my lead around me. I wear it like a purse strap, around the neck and under one arm. I make sure the clip is near my right (dominant) hand so I can sneak it onto place. Hide the halter under clothing if you can but a lead around their neck will work to walk them to where the barn/halter is.
It’s not who is chasing who it’s who is hiding from who ……RITA” I’m just sick and tired of him looking at my ass… stop looking at my ass you …,” DINKY “ I’ve got a cricked neck from trying to look at your pretty eyes 👀 so what else am I supposed to do I am dinky you know… mmmm but not in that sense 😂😂😂 I’m a full grown man” RITA “yes a full grown miniature lol” ow I do laugh to myself thinking of what they are saying to each other it so brightens my day xx love and blessings to all from England 🇬🇧 uk xx
An elderly Veterinarian that had dozens and dozens of animals, I worked with, told me to remember, SENIORITY, love them, pet them, praise them, feed them, groom them........by seniority, or in smaller groups, the seniority of the ones nearest to you at the time. Not age, not who is the prettiest, not ever by who is the newest, but who got their first. It'll help you avoid issues. They can't blame each other over seniority, be jealous, it's not gender, or the baby, or the newest arrival, it's the horse, or dog, or cat, who was first......it's just how it is. Most of the time the older guys don't even care anymore, but the newer ones take notice and fall in line. To pay more attention to the newest causes issues .... I was in Rescue, and he was right.
I spied Dinky-D before you did, Lester😉 Nice to see The Dinksters & Rita foraging a sweet relationship.🥰 Great idea moving her in there.👍🏻 Yep…you got some jealous mares in there…good thing you have Rita in the other pasture or there’d be Fireworks 💥 fer sure!🤭 HOLEEEEE…did you see that *GINORMOUS* bite Storm gave poor Ivy!?!!😳 Storm deserved a reprimand for that..not a loving pat…😦
Horses put their ears back for a variety of reasons, including: Listening: Horses may put their ears back to listen to sounds behind them. Submissiveness: Horses may put their ears back when they are submissive. Fear: Horses may put their ears back when they are frightened. Territorial protection: Horses may put their ears flat and pinned back when they are protecting their territory. Alertness: Horses may put their ears back when they are alert or focusing on something in front of them. Learning: Horses may put their ears back when they are learning something new. Working hard: Horses may put their ears back when they are working hard or putting in a lot of effort. Out of comfort zone: Horses may put their ears back when they are out of their comfort zone, such as when doing difficult exercises. Heightened alertness: Horses may rapidly flick their ears back and forth when they are highly alert and trying to locate a concerning sound.
Hey Lester, I was an adult before I got my first horse in the early 2000's. I purchased the worst possible horse for a first-time horse owner with below novice skill level. She was a young filly much like Rita. I wanted to learn so badly how to build a relationship with her. I spent hours watching shows on RFD. I discovered parelli horsemanship training and I love the way they laid out their training. Since then, I've discovered Henson at the painted Desert ranch on RUclips. I know you're busy but if you are really interested in learning you might want to check them out.
Since Rita loves Storm & Storm loves Rita maybe move Storm in with Rita and Dinky! Then if they picked on Dinky try moving Dinky in with Prim, Voo and the rest of that group! Just a suggestion!
I’m no horse person Lester but Storm and Prim have only been in the same pasture for a couple of days - could it be that it’s not jealousy but still establishing the herd hierarchy. Also I wonder if it’s a good idea to give Storm loving like it’s ok to bite Ivy? Love you ❤️🏴
Welcome to the world of Mares. It's just that way. It's ok, they should tolerate each other soon enough. Time. It takes time. Hide the lead rope and halter in a bucket. Pasture horses like to make us work before they will work for us. It's a game horses play.
I just LOVED this video Lester. The horses and donkeys are stunning. On another note I can't believe some people write those names to you. Says more about them than you. Love you, Jami and all of your kuds, the animal ones too 🙂💖
I didn't see anyone else bring this up so I will. This is in addition to what most of the horse people said. Horses will sometimes walk or run away more as a game than fear or anything else. They should be trained that the halter means something good. So sometimes horses learn that they have the power or hierarchy over humans in the pasture when they don't do what is wanted of them. They can try to put you into your spot in the herd and want that to be below them in the lineup. Horses position in the herd can even be effected by the order in which the mares are bred or get pregnant. It can be serious business if you are moving horses around at times of breeding or giving birth because a mean lead mare may attempt to cause miscarriage or hurt a foal that is born before her own is born, because it effects the order in the herd. Usually those issues are less with related mares or ones that have a long time herd established so they know who is boss and so on down the line. because you have horses from different past owners their training is probably different and their habits are different it takes some time to learn their quirks and to let them how how they will fit into the herd. It is important to Storm to show Prim that she has a place in the herd if for nothing else than her own peace of mind. If she were attacking that is different but a look or ear signals is perfectly to be expected. BTW often horses consider donkeys lower than they are and can be ornery with them at times.
Hi to hello Lester and beautiful Jami. Hope you have a fabulous evening and night away last night. Jami looked stunning as always, and you scrub up well, Lord Longhorn Lester. X ❤🇬🇧
Storm is jealous but also protective which it seems like to you she wants all the love not anyone else Including the donkey when she bit a little showing her to leave me alone type thing that's why she's following you around to get the attention away from the other horses when she usually has Rita to bother lol
I was raised a city girl with summers spent at my grandparents farm, cows, no horses. I am 68 years old, and when I went to choose my Labrador puppy 2 years ago, it was at a horse ranch for Gypsy Cob horses. The horse smell in the barn was welcoming. I brought home my sweet puppy and she brought home that horse smell and my other lab was intrigued with the smell of this new puppy. I truly miss the horse smell
🐴 🫶 D*MN advertising just wiped out my whole comment! "GRRR" I have always loved the horse smell and use to love coming home smelling like my horse when I was younger! I totally love the smell of horses, if only I could afford them! I'm surprised they don't have a cologne that smells like horses! 😂
Remember for some horses a halter and rope means WORK for them. They don't wanna work lol 😅 so positive reinforcement is key and it'll take a Lil while. Always reward her for it ❤
It's funny that neither Voo or Buc-ees gives a fat rat's behind what you're doing. Yet, Storm and Prim are competing for your affection. They're acting like a couple of young women on a dance floor. Hugs to all...😊
You know what, sometimes we learn by doing. That’s exactly what I’ve learned about y’all just by watching. You don’t go into anything blindly, and just hope on “spit and a prayer” things will work out. If people can’t understand that, then like you said Lester, go find your happy place somewhere else.❤
Just give prim some time to adjust! After being in a small space it's understandable she doesn't want to come in. She doesn't know what's gonna happen. You can only show her that halter doesn't mean being locked up in a stall. It means brushes and snacks ( aaaand maybe a little work), before going right back to her friends and this beautiful pasture
I agree with wearing it over your shoulders or whatever every time you go out into the pasture. Make it a normal every day sight while feeding, watering, working with them, brushing, giving treats, or anything that you're not going out there for the horses. Plus, you never know when you may need it anyway.
That made me laugh, this is quite normal when there's a newcomer. Jealousy is a real thing with horses and they're still trying to establish who is the higher horse. Just give it some time. My horses would just run to me or to the barn. I didn't have to go chase them. I'm just saying what I see Jamie cuddles them a little too much and they don't need a bath every day, it strips all the oil out of there coat. Maybe if it's 100° every day. For them a horse bath is when they roll in the dirt, I know we don't get it but that's what they do. Hopefully the jealousy will go away after a while once they have sorted out there hierarchy. You're all doing the best you can. They can be trained to wait for their affection but then again you need to hire a trainer that's all it is, training with horses. Be careful with the jealousy that's how people get hurt, you see how she took a bite out on the donkey. next time that could be you, so be careful you all. I would take them out individually if you want to love on them 🐴 just my opinion but everyone feeds way too many snacks, because then it comes to the point where they expect it and it's not a treat anymore. Back in the day we didn't have all these artificial treats we gave real apples carrots once in awhile a sugar cube. You're all doing the best you can. And it always can't be just love you have to put a little discipline also. Just raise your voice and say no, the way you raised your kids. Horses are big kids 😅
So, my horse, Arrow, can be a little tricky with catching. The thing you do is get in front of the driveline. Get in front of her and make sure you aren’t looking directly into her face - that’s pressure. Look down at her feet, keeping an eye on what direction she is thinking of moving. The moment she starts to move away from you, cut her off. The moment she looks at you, look down and turn away from her. Wait a moment and then walk towards her. If she starts to move away from you, cut her off. It’s hard to explain. But you want to be conscious of your speed, don’t walk towards her in a hurry, don’t try catching her right away as well. Walk casually, don’t make catching her the main thing. Taking your time helps a big deal. Don’t make catching her the main event, be casual about it. They can feel your energy when you are only focused on catching them. I take my halter everywhere with my horses, I mix it up, sometimes I just give them a good rub down with the halter and then walk away, sometimes I’ll catch them. Keep them guessing. It works but I don’t think I’m doing a very good job at explaining it. 🤦🏻♀️ Look up John Lyons, the hard to catch horse - it explains it much better than I could - also Rick Gore has great videos explaining the driveline and pressure and release when catching horses. I’ve come a long way with learning how to catch hard to catch horses, Arrow is the hardest one, but my senior horse, Barney can be a little tough as well. But I’ve gotten pretty good at it. The boys (all three of my horses) all know I’m not playing now. If they are going to make catching hard, I make them work until they yield and realize that running away is more work than getting caught. My young horse, Fin has started trying to give me the run around when it comes to catching, but that’s my fault because I’ve been brushing him in the field and he’s figured out that if he walks away, the pressure stops. So I’ve been working with him more on catching in the field and I’ve stoped brushing him while he’s eating his snacks and started catching him and tying him more to get that idea out of his head, silly, smart boy of mine. As for herd dynamic stuff, Prim is new, so it has messed up the pecking order a bit. There is going to be scuffles and horses moving each other’s feet for a while until the pecking order is figured out again. I have three new horses in with my boys, and if I allowed it, it could be chaos in the barn area where I feed. I feed my boys separately from the new girls for now and let them figure out the pecking order when they are in the big field behind the barn. Last time we had a new horse in with my boys it took almost a year for things to settle down. But it was between two young geldings and my old man Barney, and my wildie, Arrow. The two young geldings were constantly trying to move up in the herd and it got even more interesting when Arrow ( my herd leader) started letting Finley ( my four year old) move his feet. Fin got a giant head and thought he ruled everything until we got a new mare who knocked him back down to size 😂 What’s going on with your horses and donkeys is normal. It’s all herd dynamics. I’m fascinated with herd dynamics and learning who is trying to move up in the pecking order and who is lowest. My poor old man, Barney is definitely at the bottom, and Fin, my colt, is trying to take Arrow’s place as herd leader - but Arrow is good at kicking Finny’s bum when he needs it. Gosh I love my horses ❤️ Thanks for being you, Lester. For loving your animals like you do. You and your family are definitely my favourite people. ❤️
What you do is you follow her around with the rope for no other reason to just rub the rope or halter on her and then walk away, you want her to realize that just cause you have a halter in your hand doesn't mean your going to catch her every time, your desensitizing her to you walking in the pasture with the halter in your hand, and do this every day that you go to spend time with her no matter if your going to catch her or not ❤
Maybe for awhile until they adjust to the new pasture dynamic with Rita gone and a new horse it might be best not to pet them back and forth like that while they are bunched up close like that. Give them some time but definitely address Storm biting Ivy. Those babies belong to you guys and I know you give them their best lives and we all love how much you love these babies.
I used to hide the halter and lead in my back pocket and have treats in another pocket, after a bit I would put it around my neck, they learned pretty quick they were missing out on treats and lovins if they walked away. Mares in a group are a bunch of teenage mean girls that are always fighting to be the Queen Bee. You have to give it time, it should settle out after awhile. Giving Storm love after she went after Ivy is reinforcing that bad behavior.
Oh, sweet Ivy!! Storm is probably going through a jealousy stage but don't any them to bite each other. I feel sometimes that the donkey/ponies are scared of the horses sometimes. I do love all of them!!
ASOLUTELY!!! Also The Clever Cowgirl and Free Spirit Equestrian.....on RUclips they will teach you also about herd dynamics and introducing new hores into a establishe herd. They are all excellent on equine psychology and behavior.
Hi Lester, I am not a horse person, but I do have a suggestion for the jealousy.... What if both you and Jami got together and take them both for a walk at the same time. It would give them equal love and attention, and take away some of the other distractions.
Hey lester I m not a horse person but I think if you spend more time in the pasture with them the better they will get I also think prim might be liking where she is ands afraid your going to take her some where else I love horses no matter what people say we're not here all the time and yall see there personalities yall are so lucky to have these amazing hotses😊
That's what I was thinking. In the last week, she's been on leads and lead away from what she thought was her new home. She's decided she is not leaving this home! You will have to catch her first. Lester, either shove the lead rope in your back pocket or around your neck. Almost make it so it looks like it's part of your outfit, every time. And just leave it there and do your chores. They will stop noticing it over time. And you will always have a rope ready in case you need it. You never know when something might happen and you need it. Just helps to get used to doing that. Storm is just being a mare and letting Prim know, your hers! Unfortunately, Ivy got the jealous bite. She will learn to stay away from Storm when your around. I love how quite Dinky has become since Rita moved. I'm sure your neighbors are too!😊
2018 Double-Dipper I totally get the high archy, pecking order. And that right now it's basically between the mares. So Lester, why didn't ya'll just go on over to Buccee's? In the background, of your video, Buccee's is clearly in hopes of ya'll acknowledging him as well as you did with the others. But you didn't. 💔 Therefore leaving Buccee's without reinforcement through love, conversation & validation. 😢 I'm sorry, but I just couldn't help but notice this. Buccee's hope right then and there was, disappointment in plain sight. He's not only blind but sometimes not seen by some. 💔 I know you're not a horse person. But you're a kind & loving man to creature's, bigs & littles. You have an open mind & willingness to new things.And have been progressing well, while stepping out of your comfort zone with horses 🐎 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎 Lester, I love ya'll ❤️
While sometimes they do pop up livestreams. Their livestreams together are on Saturday mornings, and on Sunday evenings/nights on all 3 Channels Ima Survivor Sanctuary, Longhorn Lester’s, and From Suits To Boots. Jami has “Time Out Tuesday” on Tuesday nights. On From Suits To Boots channel Lester has “Lunch With Longhorn Lester on Fridays, on Longhorn Lester’s Channel. ( If something does not prevent them from doing so )
I always had carrots with me. A friend would were a lead rope as a belt always, so the horses got used to that, so when she needed it she just took off her lead rope belt.😊
I wonder if Prim now hates the lead, rope, etc. because she likens it to going back into the trailer and leaving. Maybe she loves her new home and is putting her hoof down she's not going! 😊
I enjoyed this horsey video. You’ve got a good start with her because she’s not walking away from you if you don’t have the halter and lead, she should after you make a connection with her be fine with the halter however, there’s some things that you will want to do. When you go out into the pasture, have your lead rope draped over your shoulder. Walk up to her like you normally would and rub all over her. Don’t touch the lead rope until you feel you have a good connection with her. Oh good grief this is too complicated to explain in writing. Call me 😊
This is normal horse behavior, and unfortunately, this is what Rita was blamed for doing and was separated from the pack, but as you can see, this is going to happen with your horses. Please let Rita come back to the pack. She deserves it.
Yes, exactly, and Rita always gets the raft blamed and now put away from the other horse it's wrong, and we know it's because they are both scared of her , it's sad Rita and Darell should be with the others. And when there's lots of mares, they fight until they know who's boss . Prim may not like men handling her because Jami doesn't have that problem. And bottom line, they have to stop showing FEAR. Animals aren't stupid.
Thank you for this comment. I wanted to comment the same thing but I’m tired of getting attacked by the Jami blind supporters whenever I defend Rita. 😬😅
I’m sure they moved Rita for a reason and that was to allow Prim to ease into the herd more easily. Rita IS the high energy horse who wants all the attention. I suspect they were worried the 2 mares would gang up on Prim. I would bet money that when the herd is seems stable they will move Rita & Dinky over to the main horse pasture.
Not a horse person. But I do think you should continue to go into the pasture. As for Prim walking away whenever you have the halter…. She’s afraid she’ll be loaded up again. She likes her new home.🥰
🤠🤠🤠🐴🐎🐴🐎🐴🐎You have the right idea, watching their behavior, Those horses read your intent by observing your approach. My horses all come up to me, every time, but, we've done this a lot. Prim is not "officially" accepted herd mate, yet. These things take time to resolve among the hierarchy. Storm sees you as herd boss and is refusing entry to Prim. (into your bubble).
Prim needs to be conditioned with lead or bridle by letting her smell and let her know it's hers lay it across her back without asking her to perform.😊
I have no idea what you do around any horse. I love them but certainly not a horse person. Lester your doing just fine, you give them love and that's what counts. And your learning
When i was a kid we would have a cube of sugar to get my horse to come when called. His teeth must have been really bad. I would also hide the halter. There are more appropriate treats these days but i wouldnt over use treats but it can start changing Prims idea that you are going to work her.
It's all about hierarchy. Storm has just established herself as lead mare (over donkeys and all), biting the donkey was just her saying stay out of my space and away from my human. She is also showing YOU that you are below her subtly. Testing you. If you do not show dominance, it WILL intensify. They were not looking at each other out of jealousy. They were ensuring the other wasn't coming to run them off. They are establishing placement and i would not be surprised if, once Prim is settled in, she doesn't own top spot. She has the qualities of a lead mare imo. Storm knows it but instinct makes her try or want to hold that spot. They were just keeping am eye on each other as to whether they needed to be ready to spar or relax and enjoy. Let it play out. Don't interrupt it because it nature and when you put human rationale and logic behind herd dynamics, you create the problems. You don't do it with the cattle. Just because horses are loving and show intelligence doesn't mean it doesn't work the same.
Lester you have mares. Its like having a house full of teenage girls. They are biatches to each other 😂
Thiiiissssss lmao I'm like yes there's some hierarchy battle, but these are mainly mares they're BIIIIG moody Bs😅😂😂 love them all so much even if they are rotten at times.
😂😂😂 thank you for saying what I was scared to say 😂😂😂
💯 this is a fact ❤❤❤❤
That’s funny. My poor Mom had 5 girls. She comes from a family of 10.
Lester I think it will take time for Storm and Prim get used to each other. You and Jami will have to try and make sure they all get attention. It's just like when you have kids, by the time Lex came LE was probably already used to sharing the love from a parent
Storm is just telling her she's below her. You entered the herd. Sometimes I put my halter and lead in a bucket. They won't walk away from a bucket. Giving her a treat once she's haltered is positive reinforcement.
Great idea
Absolutely!!!! 🤗❤️👍🙋🏻♀️
Yes that would work or simply keep it behind your back. Lester you provoked that little bit of jealousy from Storm by moving to Prims right side rather that left side. And you probably did that for the camera shot.
That’s a great idea
Hi to Hello Lester ❤️ 😊
You rewarded bad behavior when Storm bit Ivy, poor Ivy 😢
Lester,you needed to go to Ivy after Storm bit her .Just saying I hope you're ok ,didn't show her any love,and continuing petting Storm is letting her know being bad to Ivy is ok.
Hi Lester, I am not a horse person but I could not help but wince when Storm bit the donkey and then you went right back to loving her. To me that let's storm know that that behavior is acceptable.
I can see that
Same thought here. That's a no-no.
We are definitely in agreements by rewarding her with attention. After she was naughty, just reinforces the behavior.
That's a big no no
Exactly!
What your saying are human emotions. Horses are concerned with who is higher up in the herd.
Yes if there not messed about by man in the real world they know who they are but man has to course a hole load of wrong thinking .
When she bit at the donkey you GAVE LOVEINS TO HER that was not. Okay.. just an fyi ❤️ luv you all
@@zaarrd1699yep…that was actually positive reinforcement Lester gave Storm🫣
This is normal behavior, it’s okay for Storm to establish quiet dominance over Prim. They’ll work it out and it will be fine. It’s less jealousy and more dominance and the horses know what’s going on. It’s common, they’re not fighting, just establishing pecking orders. Don’t worry about this.
Lester, remember when the ABCs were discovered next to JL ranch. All 3 were males were tearing each other up. So far with these girls they aren't doing that.
Anytime you enter the pasture, YOU CHANGE the dynamics!
Yeah I'm not very versed or educated in horses but I watch a few other channels with horses. Free Spirit Equestrian and The Clever Cowgirl and they always plan out which horses and pastures they go in and plan it out very carefully. It seems like it's not a very good idea to change the pastures out on them too often or unless it's absolutely necessary.
Well, what I did was put a lead around my neck every time I was in the pasture. Feeding grooming, working, whatever. After a couple of times, it never bothered my horses anymore. My mare used to run to the opposite side of pasture . Then she was missing out. She wanted attention more than her concern over a lead.
I don’t have horses or anything but that sounds like good advice!!
I was looking for this comment. I also wear my lead around me. I wear it like a purse strap, around the neck and under one arm. I make sure the clip is near my right (dominant) hand so I can sneak it onto place. Hide the halter under clothing if you can but a lead around their neck will work to walk them to where the barn/halter is.
@@nancystanton955 excellent suggestion and it works .
100% not jealousy dominance in the herd it’s hierarchy
You just gotta train her that the halter means a bath, treats, and a good brush rather than something bad.
Yeah you rewarded Storm with affection after she took to Ivy.
Prim is another beautiful horse. I love watching her run with her mane blowing in the wind. 💕💗
Rita and Dinky Daryl seem to love each other!!!!
Lester, it's great to see Rita is at peace in her own pasture with Dinky Daryl.
Agree she seems so much happier 🩷
It’s not who is chasing who it’s who is hiding from who ……RITA” I’m just sick and tired of him looking at my ass… stop looking at my ass you …,” DINKY “ I’ve got a cricked neck from trying to look at your pretty eyes 👀 so what else am I supposed to do I am dinky you know… mmmm but not in that sense 😂😂😂 I’m a full grown man” RITA “yes a full grown miniature lol” ow I do laugh to myself thinking of what they are saying to each other it so brightens my day xx love and blessings to all from England 🇬🇧 uk xx
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An elderly Veterinarian that had dozens and dozens of animals, I worked with, told me to remember, SENIORITY, love them, pet them, praise them, feed them, groom them........by seniority, or in smaller groups, the seniority of the ones nearest to you at the time.
Not age, not who is the prettiest, not ever by who is the newest, but who got their first.
It'll help you avoid issues.
They can't blame each other over seniority, be jealous, it's not gender, or the baby, or the newest arrival, it's the horse, or dog, or cat, who was first......it's just how it is. Most of the time the older guys don't even care anymore, but the newer ones take notice and fall in line. To pay more attention to the newest causes issues .... I was in Rescue, and he was right.
That makes perfect sense to me.
I spied Dinky-D before you did, Lester😉
Nice to see The Dinksters & Rita foraging a sweet relationship.🥰
Great idea moving her in there.👍🏻
Yep…you got some jealous mares in there…good thing you have Rita in the other pasture or there’d be Fireworks 💥 fer sure!🤭
HOLEEEEE…did you see that *GINORMOUS* bite Storm gave poor Ivy!?!!😳
Storm deserved a reprimand for that..not a loving pat…😦
Rita looks completely happy in her pasture.
They are still working out pecking order. Prim doesn't know anyone yet, so her trust will come. Start with treats and rewards
Lester and Jami, I feel that the herd will work everything out on their own. Sometimes, the best thing to do is not interfere.
Horses put their ears back for a variety of reasons, including:
Listening: Horses may put their ears back to listen to sounds behind them.
Submissiveness: Horses may put their ears back when they are submissive.
Fear: Horses may put their ears back when they are frightened.
Territorial protection: Horses may put their ears flat and pinned back when they are protecting their territory.
Alertness: Horses may put their ears back when they are alert or focusing on something in front of them.
Learning: Horses may put their ears back when they are learning something new.
Working hard: Horses may put their ears back when they are working hard or putting in a lot of effort.
Out of comfort zone: Horses may put their ears back when they are out of their comfort zone, such as when doing difficult exercises.
Heightened alertness: Horses may rapidly flick their ears back and forth when they are highly alert and trying to locate a concerning sound.
Wht?!
This is mostly about mares being mares! They're not ALL the same, but it's definitely part of the reputation.
Lester, you have the full authority to be in your own horse pasture it is your farm, my goodness. Be proud of yourself. You are the boss of LHL ❤❤❤
Hey Lester, I was an adult before I got my first horse in the early 2000's. I purchased the worst possible horse for a first-time horse owner with below novice skill level. She was a young filly much like Rita. I wanted to learn so badly how to build a relationship with her. I spent hours watching shows on RFD. I discovered parelli horsemanship training and I love the way they laid out their training. Since then, I've discovered Henson at the painted Desert ranch on RUclips. I know you're busy but if you are really interested in learning you might want to check them out.
Since Rita loves Storm & Storm loves Rita maybe move Storm in with Rita and Dinky! Then if they picked on Dinky try moving Dinky in with Prim, Voo and the rest of that group! Just a suggestion!
I’m no horse person Lester but Storm and Prim have only been in the same pasture for a couple of days - could it be that it’s not jealousy but still establishing the herd hierarchy. Also I wonder if it’s a good idea to give Storm loving like it’s ok to bite Ivy? Love you ❤️🏴
The horses are so funny. They are beautiful and so majestic.
Welcome to the world of Mares. It's just that way. It's ok, they should tolerate each other soon enough. Time. It takes time.
Hide the lead rope and halter in a bucket. Pasture horses like to make us work before they will work for us. It's a game horses play.
I just LOVED this video Lester. The horses and donkeys are stunning. On another note I can't believe some people write those names to you. Says more about them than you. Love you, Jami and all of your kuds, the animal ones too 🙂💖
You are correct always give a treat after the halter is on. There is always something good coming with the halter.
It's nice to see you in the field with the horses Lester!!❤
I think you need to let her know that is not ok. You can’t reward her for bad behavior.
Wount Rita have the same problem as others with the rye grass
I believe I remember them saying it is more that Voo can't handle the rye grass than the others.
I didn't see anyone else bring this up so I will. This is in addition to what most of the horse people said. Horses will sometimes walk or run away more as a game than fear or anything else. They should be trained that the halter means something good. So sometimes horses learn that they have the power or hierarchy over humans in the pasture when they don't do what is wanted of them. They can try to put you into your spot in the herd and want that to be below them in the lineup. Horses position in the herd can even be effected by the order in which the mares are bred or get pregnant. It can be serious business if you are moving horses around at times of breeding or giving birth because a mean lead mare may attempt to cause miscarriage or hurt a foal that is born before her own is born, because it effects the order in the herd. Usually those issues are less with related mares or ones that have a long time herd established so they know who is boss and so on down the line. because you have horses from different past owners their training is probably different and their habits are different it takes some time to learn their quirks and to let them how how they will fit into the herd.
It is important to Storm to show Prim that she has a place in the herd if for nothing else than her own peace of mind. If she were attacking that is different but a look or ear signals is perfectly to be expected. BTW often horses consider donkeys lower than they are and can be ornery with them at times.
Thank you for sharing. Thoughts and Prayers. Love and Blessings.
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Seriously, such a beautiful property 😍 !! When I think of places on my bucket list, your place is tops! Great job..❤
Hi to hello Lester and beautiful Jami. Hope you have a fabulous evening and night away last night. Jami looked stunning as always, and you scrub up well, Lord Longhorn Lester. X ❤🇬🇧
Thanks so much ❤🇬🇧
@longhornlesters you've very welcome, my Liege. X ❤️ 🇬🇧
Storm is jealous but also protective which it seems like to you she wants all the love not anyone else Including the donkey when she bit a little showing her to leave me alone type thing that's why she's following you around to get the attention away from the other horses when she usually has Rita to bother lol
I was raised a city girl with summers spent at my grandparents farm, cows, no horses. I am 68 years old, and when I went to choose my Labrador puppy 2 years ago, it was at a horse ranch for Gypsy Cob horses. The horse smell in the barn was welcoming. I brought home my sweet puppy and she brought home that horse smell and my other lab was intrigued with the smell of this new puppy. I truly miss the horse smell
🐴 🫶 D*MN advertising just wiped out my whole comment! "GRRR" I have always loved the horse smell and use to love coming home smelling like my horse when I was younger! I totally love the smell of horses, if only I could afford them!
I'm surprised they don't have a cologne that smells like horses! 😂
That’s just mares…Storm will be jealous and since Prim is new, Storm is letting her know she’s higher on the pecking order than Prim
Remember for some horses a halter and rope means WORK for them. They don't wanna work lol 😅 so positive reinforcement is key and it'll take a Lil while. Always reward her for it ❤
Afternoon Lester thanks for having me along God bless y'all love y'all
Umm.. What?!?
I can't believe Storm bit Ivy. That is so sad.
Poor Ivy!
You aren't chicken shit, you are just being aware of your surroundings
Lester - Talk to Rick... soon please. We've been through this before and you don't want to hear it from us. 👍💪🤗
She’s not jealous. They are establishing hierarchy, who’s top mare!
I love seeing that Voo is staying out of the drama today!
It's funny that neither Voo or Buc-ees gives a fat rat's behind what you're doing. Yet, Storm and Prim are competing for your affection. They're acting like a couple of young women on a dance floor. Hugs to all...😊
You know what, sometimes we learn by doing. That’s exactly what I’ve learned about y’all just by watching. You don’t go into anything blindly, and just hope on “spit and a prayer” things will work out. If people can’t understand that, then like you said Lester, go find your happy place somewhere else.❤
Just give prim some time to adjust! After being in a small space it's understandable she doesn't want to come in. She doesn't know what's gonna happen. You can only show her that halter doesn't mean being locked up in a stall. It means brushes and snacks ( aaaand maybe a little work), before going right back to her friends and this beautiful pasture
I agree with wearing it over your shoulders or whatever every time you go out into the pasture.
Make it a normal every day sight while feeding, watering, working with them, brushing, giving treats, or anything that you're not going out there for the horses.
Plus, you never know when you may need it anyway.
That made me laugh, this is quite normal when there's a newcomer. Jealousy is a real thing with horses and they're still trying to establish who is the higher horse. Just give it some time. My horses would just run to me or to the barn. I didn't have to go chase them. I'm just saying what I see Jamie cuddles them a little too much and they don't need a bath every day, it strips all the oil out of there coat. Maybe if it's 100° every day. For them a horse bath is when they roll in the dirt, I know we don't get it but that's what they do. Hopefully the jealousy will go away after a while once they have sorted out there hierarchy. You're all doing the best you can. They can be trained to wait for their affection but then again you need to hire a trainer that's all it is, training with horses. Be careful with the jealousy that's how people get hurt, you see how she took a bite out on the donkey. next time that could be you, so be careful you all. I would take them out individually if you want to love on them 🐴 just my opinion but everyone feeds way too many snacks, because then it comes to the point where they expect it and it's not a treat anymore. Back in the day we didn't have all these artificial treats we gave real apples carrots once in awhile a sugar cube. You're all doing the best you can. And it always can't be just love you have to put a little discipline also. Just raise your voice and say no, the way you raised your kids. Horses are big kids 😅
Beautiful green grass everywhere ❤🎉
So, my horse, Arrow, can be a little tricky with catching. The thing you do is get in front of the driveline. Get in front of her and make sure you aren’t looking directly into her face - that’s pressure. Look down at her feet, keeping an eye on what direction she is thinking of moving. The moment she starts to move away from you, cut her off. The moment she looks at you, look down and turn away from her. Wait a moment and then walk towards her. If she starts to move away from you, cut her off. It’s hard to explain. But you want to be conscious of your speed, don’t walk towards her in a hurry, don’t try catching her right away as well. Walk casually, don’t make catching her the main thing. Taking your time helps a big deal. Don’t make catching her the main event, be casual about it. They can feel your energy when you are only focused on catching them. I take my halter everywhere with my horses, I mix it up, sometimes I just give them a good rub down with the halter and then walk away, sometimes I’ll catch them. Keep them guessing. It works but I don’t think I’m doing a very good job at explaining it. 🤦🏻♀️
Look up John Lyons, the hard to catch horse - it explains it much better than I could - also Rick Gore has great videos explaining the driveline and pressure and release when catching horses.
I’ve come a long way with learning how to catch hard to catch horses, Arrow is the hardest one, but my senior horse, Barney can be a little tough as well. But I’ve gotten pretty good at it. The boys (all three of my horses) all know I’m not playing now. If they are going to make catching hard, I make them work until they yield and realize that running away is more work than getting caught. My young horse, Fin has started trying to give me the run around when it comes to catching, but that’s my fault because I’ve been brushing him in the field and he’s figured out that if he walks away, the pressure stops. So I’ve been working with him more on catching in the field and I’ve stoped brushing him while he’s eating his snacks and started catching him and tying him more to get that idea out of his head, silly, smart boy of mine.
As for herd dynamic stuff, Prim is new, so it has messed up the pecking order a bit. There is going to be scuffles and horses moving each other’s feet for a while until the pecking order is figured out again. I have three new horses in with my boys, and if I allowed it, it could be chaos in the barn area where I feed. I feed my boys separately from the new girls for now and let them figure out the pecking order when they are in the big field behind the barn. Last time we had a new horse in with my boys it took almost a year for things to settle down. But it was between two young geldings and my old man Barney, and my wildie, Arrow. The two young geldings were constantly trying to move up in the herd and it got even more interesting when Arrow ( my herd leader) started letting Finley ( my four year old) move his feet. Fin got a giant head and thought he ruled everything until we got a new mare who knocked him back down to size 😂
What’s going on with your horses and donkeys is normal. It’s all herd dynamics. I’m fascinated with herd dynamics and learning who is trying to move up in the pecking order and who is lowest. My poor old man, Barney is definitely at the bottom, and Fin, my colt, is trying to take Arrow’s place as herd leader - but Arrow is good at kicking Finny’s bum when he needs it. Gosh I love my horses ❤️
Thanks for being you, Lester. For loving your animals like you do. You and your family are definitely my favourite people. ❤️
You've perfectly explained, "joining up." Herd speak for singling out one for attention.
Prim knows the lead line means work....lol😂
Or being taken away from her familiar surroundings.
Oh I do love your blouse. It is so soft and pretty looking. Looks so good on you too. 🤩
The pastures look great. Horses look beautiful and so do the donkey s.
Love watching the horses.❤❤❤
Animals are just like children. Jealous of one another. The horses, pony and donkeys are all so sweet ❤
What you do is you follow her around with the rope for no other reason to just rub the rope or halter on her and then walk away, you want her to realize that just cause you have a halter in your hand doesn't mean your going to catch her every time, your desensitizing her to you walking in the pasture with the halter in your hand, and do this every day that you go to spend time with her no matter if your going to catch her or not ❤
Maybe for awhile until they adjust to the new pasture dynamic with Rita gone and a new horse it might be best not to pet them back and forth like that while they are bunched up close like that. Give them some time but definitely address Storm biting Ivy. Those babies belong to you guys and I know you give them their best lives and we all love how much you love these babies.
Looks like storm and Rita should be together
Herd dynamics Lester, they’ll have to work it out. It’s between them.
I used to hide the halter and lead in my back pocket and have treats in another pocket, after a bit I would put it around my neck, they learned pretty quick they were missing out on treats and lovins if they walked away. Mares in a group are a bunch of teenage mean girls that are always fighting to be the Queen Bee. You have to give it time, it should settle out after awhile. Giving Storm love after she went after Ivy is reinforcing that bad behavior.
Oh, sweet Ivy!! Storm is probably going through a jealousy stage but don't any them to bite each other. I feel sometimes that the donkey/ponies are scared of the horses sometimes. I do love all of them!!
Please get a life , you sound like you on some cloud there animals not human .
Rita must be following Dinky because "he's the man" even though he's missing a few parts.
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Sunday, Nov, 10. 2024. Thank you for another great video.
Steve Young Horsemanship.
ASOLUTELY!!! Also The Clever Cowgirl and Free Spirit Equestrian.....on RUclips they will teach you also about herd dynamics and introducing new hores into a establishe herd. They are all excellent on equine psychology and behavior.
@@michellen1125 Absolutely agree. Love those channels!
Hi Lester, I am not a horse person, but I do have a suggestion for the jealousy.... What if both you and Jami got together and take them both for a walk at the same time. It would give them equal love and attention, and take away some of the other distractions.
We also had to take a treat. Our horses always done that. Never could break them.
Lester, carry a bucket with you and put it in the bucket
Hey lester I m not a horse person but I think if you spend more time in the pasture with them the better they will get I also think prim might be liking where she is ands afraid your going to take her some where else I love horses no matter what people say we're not here all the time and yall see there personalities yall are so lucky to have these amazing hotses😊
That's what I was thinking. In the last week, she's been on leads and lead away from what she thought was her new home. She's decided she is not leaving this home! You will have to catch her first. Lester, either shove the lead rope in your back pocket or around your neck. Almost make it so it looks like it's part of your outfit, every time. And just leave it there and do your chores. They will stop noticing it over time. And you will always have a rope ready in case you need it. You never know when something might happen and you need it. Just helps to get used to doing that. Storm is just being a mare and letting Prim know, your hers! Unfortunately, Ivy got the jealous bite. She will learn to stay away from Storm when your around. I love how quite Dinky has become since Rita moved. I'm sure your neighbors are too!😊
Horses feel your energy..
❤ you go in with them to make them more at peace when you're in there
2018 Double-Dipper
I totally get the high archy, pecking order. And that right now it's basically between the mares. So Lester, why didn't ya'll just go on over to Buccee's? In the background, of your video, Buccee's is clearly in hopes of ya'll acknowledging him as well as you did with the others. But you didn't. 💔
Therefore leaving Buccee's without reinforcement through love, conversation & validation. 😢
I'm sorry, but I just couldn't help but notice this. Buccee's hope right then and there was, disappointment in plain sight. He's not only blind but sometimes not seen by some. 💔
I know you're not a horse person. But you're a kind & loving man to creature's, bigs & littles. You have an open mind & willingness to new things.And have been progressing well, while stepping out of your comfort zone with horses 🐎 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎
Lester, I love ya'll ❤️
He did go over and pet Buccee. Watch the video again.
Hi to Hello 👋 Lester and beautiful followers bless Sunday Been waiting what happened to Sunday morning livestream with coffee ☕️ baby goats 🐐
They are on a mini getaway for anniversary. They deserve time off also
While sometimes they do pop up livestreams. Their livestreams together are on Saturday mornings, and on Sunday evenings/nights on all 3 Channels Ima Survivor Sanctuary, Longhorn Lester’s, and From Suits To Boots.
Jami has “Time Out Tuesday” on Tuesday nights. On From Suits To Boots channel
Lester has “Lunch With Longhorn Lester on Fridays, on Longhorn Lester’s Channel.
( If something does not prevent them from doing so )
I always had carrots with me. A friend would were a lead rope as a belt always, so the horses got used to that, so when she needed it she just took off her lead rope belt.😊
I wonder if Prim now hates the lead, rope, etc. because she likens it to going back into the trailer and leaving. Maybe she loves her new home and is putting her hoof down she's not going! 😊
I enjoyed this horsey video. You’ve got a good start with her because she’s not walking away from you if you don’t have the halter and lead, she should after you make a connection with her be fine with the halter however, there’s some things that you will want to do. When you go out into the pasture, have your lead rope draped over your shoulder. Walk up to her like you normally would and rub all over her. Don’t touch the lead rope until you feel you have a good connection with her. Oh good grief this is too complicated to explain in writing. Call me 😊
This is normal horse behavior, and unfortunately, this is what Rita was blamed for doing and was separated from the pack, but as you can see, this is going to happen with your horses. Please let Rita come back to the pack. She deserves it.
Yes, exactly, and Rita always gets the raft blamed and now put away from the other horse it's wrong, and we know it's because they are both scared of her , it's sad Rita and Darell should be with the others. And when there's lots of mares, they fight until they know who's boss . Prim may not like men handling her because Jami doesn't have that problem. And bottom line, they have to stop showing FEAR. Animals aren't stupid.
AMEN lets all blame Rita no she was not to blame Jammie thank you .
Thank you for this comment. I wanted to comment the same thing but I’m tired of getting attacked by the Jami blind supporters whenever I defend Rita. 😬😅
I’m sure they moved Rita for a reason and that was to allow Prim to ease into the herd more easily. Rita IS the high energy horse who wants all the attention. I suspect they were worried the 2 mares would gang up on Prim. I would bet money that when the herd is seems stable they will move Rita & Dinky over to the main horse pasture.
A group of horses is called a herd, just like the cows. 😚. (Packs are dogs, wolves, etc.). Just a kind fyi.
Not a horse person. But I do think you should continue to go into the pasture. As for Prim walking away whenever you have the halter…. She’s afraid she’ll be loaded up again. She likes her new home.🥰
🤠🤠🤠🐴🐎🐴🐎🐴🐎You have the right idea, watching their behavior, Those horses read your intent by observing your approach. My horses all come up to me, every time, but, we've done this a lot. Prim is not "officially" accepted herd mate, yet. These things take time to resolve among the hierarchy. Storm sees you as herd boss and is refusing entry to Prim. (into your bubble).
Storm is giving her stink eye to Prim.
Prim needs to be conditioned with lead or bridle by letting her smell and let her know it's hers lay it across her back without asking her to perform.😊
Continuing to pet Storm after she bit the donkey just encouraged her bad behaviour.
Behind the trees, his white spot on nose gave him away.
Beautiful horses. 😊❤
The pasture looks wonderful!!
Wishing you a Happy Anniversary, and hope you had a wonderful time away. Love you both.🥂🍾💐
Ears also go back to listen to what’s behind them and the look is also to make sure the other horse is not making a move towards them
Happy Anniversary Lester and Jami 💐💐💐💐🥳🥳🥳🥳
I have no idea what you do around any horse. I love them but certainly not a horse person. Lester your doing just fine, you give them love and that's what counts. And your learning
There will always be that lead mare. That’s her job! They keep their title serious! 😊
I don’t have the slightest idea what to suggest, but I’m impressed with all you do with horses. Those are large animals!
So cute Dinky just stares at Rita all the time
When i was a kid we would have a cube of sugar to get my horse to come when called. His teeth must have been really bad. I would also hide the halter. There are more appropriate treats these days but i wouldnt over use treats but it can start changing Prims idea that you are going to work her.
It's all about hierarchy. Storm has just established herself as lead mare (over donkeys and all), biting the donkey was just her saying stay out of my space and away from my human. She is also showing YOU that you are below her subtly. Testing you. If you do not show dominance, it WILL intensify. They were not looking at each other out of jealousy. They were ensuring the other wasn't coming to run them off. They are establishing placement and i would not be surprised if, once Prim is settled in, she doesn't own top spot. She has the qualities of a lead mare imo. Storm knows it but instinct makes her try or want to hold that spot. They were just keeping am eye on each other as to whether they needed to be ready to spar or relax and enjoy. Let it play out. Don't interrupt it because it nature and when you put human rationale and logic behind herd dynamics, you create the problems. You don't do it with the cattle. Just because horses are loving and show intelligence doesn't mean it doesn't work the same.
You have to spend time with each horse. Spend a little more time with Prim.