I heard he met a girl and fell in love throughout senior year, studied for finals and maintained a healthy companionship with his lover, but she cheated on him before the exams. Now he's a drug using street cat that couldn't get into university.
@@iinkstain that was 5 years ago, there was some man named dhar man he helped him open up a suit cleaning company because that was his dream, im pretty sure he even has a wife
Twitch was basically Intel, the technology has been here for years but they're holding it back since there was no reason to upgrade because there was no competition. Watch them roll out a "zero-stream delay" feature in less than a year and act like it's brand new tech lol
if you watch on mobile there is literally no delay either is kinda insane compared to twitch on mobile where youre like 10 seconds behind anyone watching on desktop so chat is useless.
@@steviesoprano because you're either 1: using android (never had delay) 2: have low latency setting enabled on ios app Some ios versions didn't allow for this "feature" to be enabled, but in general, there is no more delay on any mobile platform compared to pc now from my testing. Ios is still probably half a second or 1 second slower when running next to my android phone (2020 ipad pro, galaxy s21)
Thats it. My 4 years of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc Edit: This a copypasta from chat it aint that deep yall dumb as hell
The Twitch chat being delayed/loaded in chunks is definitely jank, but its honestly just a good feature at this point. It makes being able to read massive chats way easier, especially on vods and youtube.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it ludwig literally had to make a external application for yt because he had the same issue with chat . . . how can you be so confidently stupid.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Aww poor X, send him a box of chocolates and flowers for me. First world problems am I right? Chat won't load quick enough when streaming to the entire world (entire world since anyone can join the stream). Fuck the rest of the problems working people suffer from, streamer can't get a quick enough answer in a livefeed... jesus christ you dense bastard
That's a cool thing if it means that the streaming part is better and faster than Twitch. But we definitely need a feature to add a delay for stream snipers maybe.
Poor mods pouring blood, sweat and tears into their "job". Must be tough sitting in front of a computer all day banning 12 years for saying the n-word or spoiling the ending of a movie
The lowest delay I’ve ever gotten on twitch was 2.14 seconds. Are you telling me that Kick pulls that number down to a 0.1 or a 0.01, or even just a complete 0? That is amazing!
the lowest possible stream delay is 120 milliseconds. kick is around 190 to 400 milliseconds. which is still insane. discord and most video chats are between 140 and 250 ms
Also consider that theres not as many users on kick as on platforms like Twitch yet. If they can keep this up with a full workload, that will be impressive
@@itzYonkothat's exactly how that works everything I'd ran through twitch servers and then rebroadcasted the more people using the servers the more drag. Literally exactly how that works. And If the server has any sort of anti copyright it adds more delay scanning audio and video frames as it re broadcast adding more delay
@@jestershyper exactly, there is still not as much people on kick as they are on twitch. there is no way kick could maintain those servers with the 95/5 split and zero ads on the site for more than a year. even with the crypto and the gambling, they will continue to lose more and more money until it implodes on itself.
@@jestershyperNot how this works at all and it’s amazing how confident you are about this. Twitch hosts their own servers. Kick does not. Amazon took what twitch created and spun up their own slightly tweaked version of it while working with twitch that is actually backed by Amazon’s infrastructure. I couldn’t find too much info on if twitch is still locked to their own data centers but I would bet a lot of money they are given how much they have invested in them across the globe. Problem is, they’re locked to completely guessing how much infrastructure they need and where. If they guess too much they could hurt their profits and tank the company. If they guess too little then they will have terrible performance. Amazon infrastructure backing kick means it can essentially infinitely scale across the globe with no risk and absolutely destroy what twitch offers even though IVS is based on twitch’s code. Kick will not take a hit in performance no matter how much traffic they receive. They could have an influx of 100 million viewers across channels one day and if they designed their shit well enough with Amazon’s tools it will be handled automatically and kick won’t even know they had an influx until someone checked it. Because it doesn’t matter and they don’t have to worry. 100 million coming into twitch would tank the entire infra they have. The only thing they have to worry about is their pricing model. If they realize the influx of traffic doesn’t cover the extra costs due to a list of reasons they simply have to update their pricing model lol. Meanwhile twitch would have to do that as well as think about spinning up a new data center in Taiwan due to an influx there out of the blue and gambling if they actually need it or not.
@@redakdalNo way in hell does streaming cost companies a lot of money if they approach it like kick does. Twitch gets shafted because they host their own data centers and a ton of gambling, traffic prediction, and even country’s laws come into play when investing in a new data center to expand. They are a ton of money. Kick doesn’t have to worry about this given it’s on the cloud and is utilizing already existing infrastructure to scale out and back in depending on traffic at any given time. If kick randomly closes it’s doors they have practically invested no capital into their streaming technology or how they host it. They only cover the bill of how many people used it and the size of data transferred each month.
There was a good 2-3 second delay which, at least for me, it is the same on Twitch, it just seemed more delayed on Twitch because the buffer would stop messages from getting through.
Periodic delays, so that a fast-moving chat is actually readable in chunks, is intentional by design. Twitch devs had this in mind and it obviously makes sense when looking at the chat without it.
Ive never used twitch nor kick, but it would be nice to allow the streamer to adjust the chat speed, both in a linear sense (just ramp up the speed without taking into account load, aka # of messages within a period of time) and in a more complex manner (rate of slow down based on # of messages within a period of time + rate of slow down or complete halt for a certain duration based on this). It should not be a hard feature to implement in most cases
That's huge for Kick, outside of the pay and ads. Not having a delay in the timing where both RUclips and Twitch do absolutely makes a difference when deciding which streaming platform to use.
I mean, Kick does not have the same traffic either so that's why they probably can afford to run everything so smoothly, for now. Even though Twitch player has always been garbage since day one.
Mixer had ~250 ms delay, so here we estimate at ~1 second delay, Twitch you can expect ~5 second delay. It's better but clearly there are more important things than chat delay.
LOVE THE NEW STREAM u need a slow mode times 2 tho lol. thank u train and the devs for helping things go fast and smooth, WE NEED more platforms to work with creators the way kick does in such a rapid fashion
Chat please stop spamming. The chat is moving so fucking fast that my computer is using 15/16gb of my ram. I have never heard some of the sounds that my pc is making and im genuinely scared for my safety. Please slow it down a little bit. My monitor has permanent burn in on the right side of my screen from the white text going so fast. I'm unable to even turn off the stream because google chrome is not responding.
i was watching hikaru on kick react to the twitch stream and there was nearly milliseconds of delay with both streams open, like me watching hikaru on kick watching x on twitch, while i watch x on twitch on another tab, no delays
I feel like they should integrate a delay feature with streaming where you can add delay or have none so that there won't be any stream snipers when xQc plays matchmaking games but no delay when xQc just wants to react or chill.
@@lalter_ man stfu with yo weird ass do not tell me who asked with an anime pfp and uploading geometry dash videos ik you’re not telling me who asked. Irrelevant ass grown man😭
That's all there is to it. I have yet to embark on my journey of watching streamer xQc after countless years. When I contemplated opening the stream on Kick, my computer continued functioning flawlessly, without any problems. In my mind's eye, I visualized the chat moving at such a rapid pace that it seemed as though my monitor would actually tear apart. I pondered the possibility of the website overwhelming the power grid in my vicinity, causing an overflow of electricity throughout my entire street. I even entertained the idea of utilizing my ability to connect with the outside world. Essentially, the imaginary Kick experience overloaded my dream neighborhood. Thank you, xQc, for such an exhilarating prospect.
I thought no-delay chat could have existed a long time ago, but since there is no competition for twitch in terms of delay chat, they didn't upgrade it until kick using it.
My understanding is it requires specific settings that don't come with default with OBS. Mixer had their own release of OBS which was modified to support 250 ms delay, practically no delay. I could be wrong but it seems like it would have been a lot of effort on Mixer's part if they could have achieved it without their own fork of OBS.
@@coldpotatoes9687 Yes, kick uses AWS IVS which is Twitch as a service. It's just a really stupid idea to have your chat moving that fast. It makes it impossible to interact with the community.
Thats it. My 4 years of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
Way larger than a five year gap. Twitch still hosts and manages their own data centers. Amazon took the streaming tech twitch created and integrated it with their cloud. Meaning any random person can now have twitch’s streaming tech combined with an almost infinitely scaling Amazon infrastructure behind it. Amazon flat out bought twitch just to do this. They’re probably making more money off of kick paying them a bill each month for service/infra usage than whatever stupid ass shit twitch is trying to do. Amazon just monopolized streaming in no time
I think this might actually be true 💀 People couldn't make accounts, existing users couldn't start their own streams, website crashing. But hey everything for X was flawless 🤣🤣
@@HK1_11They didn’t allocate bandwidth to Xqc… they don’t have to given the fact they use Amazon’s streaming service called IVS. It’s literally twitch’s streaming tech packaged up as a cloud service backed by Amazon’s infrastructure. It’s built to scale up or down depending on users. All automatically without kick worrying about a thing. Now, that’s assuming the group that owns kick invested in some good engineers to develop/design their shit well with Amazon’s cloud. If they did and they only have some UI updates to do then they are golden. If they don’t understand Amazon’s cloud too well and did a shoddy job they could potentially be focusing on Xqc. I don’t know enough, but kick will be fine server/tech wise
Thats it. My 1 second of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
@@somebody69 Thats it. My 1 second of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
it's only happening now since Kick isn't nearly as loaded as Twitch is. if it gains more viewers and more load on their servers, it will probably become similar.
I think you’re wrong. It’s been forever since the asshats at Amazon touched Twitch. They have good server host, but lack a good CDN. Hellen Keller could code something better
Thats it. My century of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
@@AboveInShadow Actually it's a Cloudflare problem. Which is weird because they should have scalable servers. Makes me think Kick is also getting DDoS'd.
Gonna miss the juicer, happy for him though, thats a insane deal. Wierd Kick dont have that feeding delay twitch have, but should be a small issue to fix.
I wonder if the adept situation is part of why he moved, everyone on Twitch loves to virtue signal but get mysteriously silent on certain issues, it's disgusting honestly. And Train seems to always have X's back
That's it. My no years of watching streamer xQc have yet to begin. After considering opening the stream on kick, my computer continued working properly without issues. I imagined the chat that was going so fast that my monitor actually started tearing apart. I thought about the site surging the power grid where i live and my whole street overflowing with power. I considered using my ability to contact the outside world. Kick from imagination basically overloaded my dream neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc?
@@demi8890 If you'd pay attention you'd notice there are multiple version of the copied comments, they all have slight differences, mine just went even further in changes. It's all shitposts anyway
Is not about new tech, it's about the number of twitch users compared to kick. Kick is down LMAO Kick is experiencing stability issues due to immense traffic (50x our usual).
I mean, x did maintain 60k viewers all the way through the stream so there where a lot lot of people, and the problems really just started to get noticeable at the end
Stability issues are because their servers are being stressed. That shouldn't under most circumstances effect the stream or stream delay, as they SHOULD be on a seperate server (even if housed in the same building). This should also be true for twitch. So long as the servers are healthy and stable, no matter how many users are on the site, stream delay fluctuation shouldn't be an issue, and should be as low as possible. Twitch literally just hasn't bothered to implement zero stream delay.
@@evangalinsky2499bro, quit talking about things you don’t know so confidently. Kick uses Amazon web services IVS. Amazon took the entirety of twitch’s streaming tech and integrated it with their cloud and provided it to the public so anyone can develop their own streaming platform. It’s literally the nitty gritty of twitchs streaming engineering backed by an almost infinitely scaling backend infrastructure. People only run into issues if they don’t develop their application, website, backend, etc around AWS properly and there are many moving parts to where you could bottleneck your shit. I didn’t tune in but I’m guessing the streaming itself didn’t have a lot of issues but some of the sites features did. The site itself probably integrates Amazon’s IVS to provide the actual streaming and only that. Things such as the actual webpage itself tanking out due to traffic is not an indication of the streaming quality, but with how they’re hosting/designer their API and front end interface. Amazon’s streaming service could technically get a random load of tens of millions of users within a few minutes and handle it perfectly fine. But that does not mean the actual web interface, chat, etc is scaling like it should and that can cause everything to tank. They have some issues to work out, but even if they crash and burn someone else will come along using Amazon’s streaming service and implement it better than the previous group and we will keep seeing progress
twitch chat was designed poorly from the start, but they have kept the artificial delay on purpose. the "bursts" of messages on Twitch are FAR easier to read, and you don't struggle tracking a message up the screen. with Twitch, you get at least 0.5-1 seconds to read each message before the next burst comes. this system does not give you any time to read a message.
I can't even follow Xqc on kick using my phone, the app needs to be optimize, how do you expect people to go on kick and watch their streamer when the app itself suck ass. If they can spend a 100 million on Xqc surely they can spend hundreds of thousands to improve their app right?
The only way you can watch this is with some super computer. Luckily, xQc now has the funds to send everyone in chat their own RTX 4090 pc so they can all finally watch the stream! I'll be checking in the mail every day for it! xqcL
LOL twitch does not hold comments, they post it first and then check it afterwards. I'm pretty sure xQc have said this clarifying why his chat sometimes are very offensive/braindead but it actually gets deleted a second later by Twitch.
@@lachlantrescott5533 not only that but both use the same thing twitch stream whatever it called. Amazon sell the right to use what twitch built to use.
@@rushyscoper1651 1. you join a twitch chat without any extension and it will show the history of the chat, in any streamers room 2. streamer can delete a message and it will delete it for everyone, so some kind of storage is present 3. it's very clear you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about 4. some messages are not even sent out if they're moderated on the client, you will not see shadowbanned user messages and such messages from other users.
@@lachlantrescott5533 you just said they do not hold comments, but then you say they check it second later, how do you check a message that's in history without storing it? you're an absolute genius :) go drink some milk
@didntask6019 he can add a delay time between messages sent per user. People were intentionally spamming during this too. It's the same speed as his chat previously it's just less delayed.
Good to see hes utilising yhis new performance boost to take his hells kitchen reaction to the next level
best comment yet
HAHAHA
i tuned in when he was watching it
If only we would get another Command & Conquer
LMAO
I’m glad the cat is working on his education. He’s got a bright future.
I heard he met a girl and fell in love throughout senior year, studied for finals and maintained a healthy companionship with his lover, but she cheated on him before the exams. Now he's a drug using street cat that couldn't get into university.
@iinkstain does the street cat at least wear a cool leather jacket and carry a switchblade that's actually a comb?
Baseg
@@sh00kah he does! except replace the leather jacket with crew neck t-shirts and replace the switchblade with a dead-end passion for animation
@@iinkstain that was 5 years ago, there was some man named dhar man he helped him open up a suit cleaning company because that was his dream, im pretty sure he even has a wife
Wait till he finds out what a face to face conversation is like. Almost no delay at all
Like and sub thanks
LMFAOOOO
“Almost no delay” are you lagging in real life?
@@thatboifigg2120I wish I could comment photos cause I’d comment the picture of SpongeBob posing like a chicken
@@thatboifigg2120 I wish I could lag irl and accidently escape the matrix
@@thatboifigg2120technically there is a delay 🤓
For me the chat stops is a must-have feature. It's impossible to read chat with no delays or artificial stops
The delay has always been able to be added back in in obs
@@Sholuhu He is saying "ways to limit chat message send rate is a must have feature" He's not talking about delaying the stream
Who wants to read chat ? So wierd
read books
@@NoChance-oz4ddits part of the experience
Twitch was basically Intel, the technology has been here for years but they're holding it back since there was no reason to upgrade because there was no competition. Watch them roll out a "zero-stream delay" feature in less than a year and act like it's brand new tech lol
if twitch stops being money hungry and does this, it will roll kick out of existence
Disadvantages of monopoly
You're actually acting like the chat is readable in the first place, actual downgrade omE
It’s over for twitch, they have no way of coming back. That’s just the sad truth.
@@AUGHHHH_ bro, you type twitch emotes on youtube
if you watch on mobile there is literally no delay either is kinda insane compared to twitch on mobile where youre like 10 seconds behind anyone watching on desktop so chat is useless.
I never understood this. I haven’t had any sort of added delay compared to my desktop when using the app. Maybe because I have turbo?
Twitch mobile is more like 2 minutes. It’s unwatchable if you are an active chatter
Using the mobile app?
@@steviesoprano because you're either 1: using android (never had delay)
2: have low latency setting enabled on ios app
Some ios versions didn't allow for this "feature" to be enabled, but in general, there is no more delay on any mobile platform compared to pc now from my testing.
Ios is still probably half a second or 1 second slower when running next to my android phone (2020 ipad pro, galaxy s21)
You just need to enable “low latency player” on mobile, the delay is the same as desktop
Thats it. My 4 years of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
Edit: This a copypasta from chat it aint that deep yall dumb as hell
rip in pieace
Nah lil bro got EMP'ed by kick
I think your neighborhood got permabanned
@@Sub4RubsNmemes rEAL SHIT NNED i SAY MORE? iF YOU GO AND CHECK THE KICK STREAM THERE ARE LITERAL CHAT PAUSERS AINTNOWAY
Kick gave my computer a virus help
Now if only the rest of the website functioned as intended..
It will , in due time . Kick was not ready for the bitrate to go nuts on their end :)
fr i cant even make an account
Its in beta my guy👍🏻
its like when splitgate blew up. they just weren't expecting massive amounts of traffic immediately.
@@iPawsKat what does bitrate have to do with this
The Twitch chat being delayed/loaded in chunks is definitely jank, but its honestly just a good feature at this point. It makes being able to read massive chats way easier, especially on vods and youtube.
no its not. there is a feature in OBS if you want delay and time. many time X needed quick answer and he failed bcuz of shitty twitch chat
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2ityall really are a hivemind
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it ludwig literally had to make a external application for yt because he had the same issue with chat . . . how can you be so confidently stupid.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it Aww poor X, send him a box of chocolates and flowers for me.
First world problems am I right? Chat won't load quick enough when streaming to the entire world (entire world since anyone can join the stream). Fuck the rest of the problems working people suffer from, streamer can't get a quick enough answer in a livefeed... jesus christ you dense bastard
@@tvph the irony is hilarious
Its fantastic my streamer ive watched for years is on a new platform and i cant even signup bc the dam app crashed
I created my account and the sign in button doesn’t work :/
@@TMTGD me too, I thought that I was the only one XD
Lmao
The app is so bad its better just to open it from browser
60,000 new account requests at the same time, who would of thought this was gonna happen.
That's a cool thing if it means that the streaming part is better and faster than Twitch. But we definitely need a feature to add a delay for stream snipers maybe.
You can add delay in obs so not that big of a deal
A FIFTEEN MINUTE DELAY??!?!?!!???!!
@@SkyFireYZ AND THENN WHATTTT AND THEN WHATT
That's done in obs bro
stream delay is usually done in capture software, but i guess it could be cool if the site had the option
Bro made 100 million still isnt paying mods baseg keep working jannies
Poor mods pouring blood, sweat and tears into their "job". Must be tough sitting in front of a computer all day banning 12 years for saying the n-word or spoiling the ending of a movie
@@J.R.Swish1 u are so weird bro
@@Aeroscream oh I'm Sorry, is he wrong?
@@10runescape partly, its definitely not a job. but hes making it seem like its easy to scroll through a chat for 18-20 hours straight.
@@J.R.Swish1 why are you hate commenting everywhere here lmao
Chat moved so fast I travelled back in time to my mother's uterus.
"Victory is mine!"
@@TrianglePants lil bro is stewie 💀
Howd you get in here? WTF? i was here first.
cringe zero sense
I also traveled to your mother's uterus
0.1 SECOND DELAY, AND THEN WHAT?!
Kick crashed.
Kick is experiencing stability issues due to immense traffic (50x our usual).
I read this with x's screaming voice
The lowest delay I’ve ever gotten on twitch was 2.14 seconds. Are you telling me that Kick pulls that number down to a 0.1 or a 0.01, or even just a complete 0? That is amazing!
the lowest possible stream delay is 120 milliseconds. kick is around 190 to 400 milliseconds. which is still insane. discord and most video chats are between 140 and 250 ms
Yeah, zero. Kick is breaking the laws of physics ☠️
Anything is possible with the power of gambling money backing you lol
@KalgamerFN nah xQc is transferring his monitor screen directly onto my computer
@@ssnful123as long it’s better than twitch
Also consider that theres not as many users on kick as on platforms like Twitch yet. If they can keep this up with a full workload, that will be impressive
The stream delay reduction is so advanced it crashed kick entirely 🤣😭
Kick crashed ln 80k viewers lol RUclips is way better.
@@ZainRizzAED It crashed because there were 80,000 people signing up at once
fixed in like 1 minute
@@MAG-hd9cr still yputubr is way better than these small platforms
@@ZainRizzAED It's not.
Chat is going so fast they will never know I am recycling jokes
It's cool if it will always stay at this performance. Because the more people on the platform, the harder it would be to maintain it.
Not how streaming works
@@itzYonkothat's exactly how that works everything I'd ran through twitch servers and then rebroadcasted the more people using the servers the more drag. Literally exactly how that works. And If the server has any sort of anti copyright it adds more delay scanning audio and video frames as it re broadcast adding more delay
@@jestershyper exactly, there is still not as much people on kick as they are on twitch.
there is no way kick could maintain those servers with the 95/5 split and zero ads on the site for more than a year.
even with the crypto and the gambling, they will continue to lose more and more money until it implodes on itself.
@@jestershyperNot how this works at all and it’s amazing how confident you are about this. Twitch hosts their own servers. Kick does not. Amazon took what twitch created and spun up their own slightly tweaked version of it while working with twitch that is actually backed by Amazon’s infrastructure. I couldn’t find too much info on if twitch is still locked to their own data centers but I would bet a lot of money they are given how much they have invested in them across the globe. Problem is, they’re locked to completely guessing how much infrastructure they need and where. If they guess too much they could hurt their profits and tank the company. If they guess too little then they will have terrible performance. Amazon infrastructure backing kick means it can essentially infinitely scale across the globe with no risk and absolutely destroy what twitch offers even though IVS is based on twitch’s code. Kick will not take a hit in performance no matter how much traffic they receive. They could have an influx of 100 million viewers across channels one day and if they designed their shit well enough with Amazon’s tools it will be handled automatically and kick won’t even know they had an influx until someone checked it. Because it doesn’t matter and they don’t have to worry. 100 million coming into twitch would tank the entire infra they have. The only thing they have to worry about is their pricing model. If they realize the influx of traffic doesn’t cover the extra costs due to a list of reasons they simply have to update their pricing model lol. Meanwhile twitch would have to do that as well as think about spinning up a new data center in Taiwan due to an influx there out of the blue and gambling if they actually need it or not.
@@redakdalNo way in hell does streaming cost companies a lot of money if they approach it like kick does. Twitch gets shafted because they host their own data centers and a ton of gambling, traffic prediction, and even country’s laws come into play when investing in a new data center to expand. They are a ton of money. Kick doesn’t have to worry about this given it’s on the cloud and is utilizing already existing infrastructure to scale out and back in depending on traffic at any given time. If kick randomly closes it’s doors they have practically invested no capital into their streaming technology or how they host it. They only cover the bill of how many people used it and the size of data transferred each month.
There was a good 2-3 second delay which, at least for me, it is the same on Twitch, it just seemed more delayed on Twitch because the buffer would stop messages from getting through.
But we cant even create kick accounts the servers are down💀
Periodic delays, so that a fast-moving chat is actually readable in chunks, is intentional by design. Twitch devs had this in mind and it obviously makes sense when looking at the chat without it.
Ive never used twitch nor kick, but it would be nice to allow the streamer to adjust the chat speed, both in a linear sense (just ramp up the speed without taking into account load, aka # of messages within a period of time) and in a more complex manner (rate of slow down based on # of messages within a period of time + rate of slow down or complete halt for a certain duration based on this). It should not be a hard feature to implement in most cases
That's huge for Kick, outside of the pay and ads.
Not having a delay in the timing where both RUclips and Twitch do absolutely makes a difference when deciding which streaming platform to use.
I mean, Kick does not have the same traffic either so that's why they probably can afford to run everything so smoothly, for now.
Even though Twitch player has always been garbage since day one.
How am I suppose to read chat if it’s going at the speed of light? How is this beneficial?
Mixer had ~250 ms delay, so here we estimate at ~1 second delay, Twitch you can expect ~5 second delay. It's better but clearly there are more important things than chat delay.
How is having an unreadable chat a good thing?
really doesnt bro its not that different at all.
I was there for this, I was dying laughing.
I couldn't be there site was literally not working for me. I could go into the site but couldn't watch anybody lol.
Rip dude he died of laughter [*]
Damn so cool bro
@Satish rai About the same as twitch. 60-70k.
@@RED_XLR Yea Kick is lowkey a fucked site right now
x had more viewers on kick than the whole website combined
Well yeah, that's why they paid him so much
Finally he won't be getting stunlocked by 1 random dude in a wall of text
True. He’ll just have to come up with new ways to tell his 7777777th fake story
@@pray4pie 777777777777777777 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You say that, but he was actually reading that shit
Now we can see NAILS in real time
LOVE THE NEW STREAM u need a slow mode times 2 tho lol. thank u train and the devs for helping things go fast and smooth, WE NEED more platforms to work with creators the way kick does in such a rapid fashion
If Kick adds the ability to scroll back in live streams like RUclips has, then it will be genuinely superior to Twitch.
on PC you can with an Chrome addon called "Transpose ▲▼" (but you can only rewind if you already had the stream running (in the background))
RUclips superiority
@@Juharo Thats an addon, not the website itself.
@@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia True. If RUclips REALLY invested in getting more streamers on here, they'd steamroll Twitch.
after the stream end u can watch it. I think it is being locked so it can be monitized for subscribers only to have VOD
Gonna need a 4090 to run that boss
How is kick funding all this? Streaming platforms are very expensive and barley profitable
They own stake
stake
Crypto Gazino = Infinite money glitch
Stake.
@@tyson98754 Not quite there, but that's the spirit! Try again champ, I know you can do it. I believe in you
Chat please stop spamming. The chat is moving so fucking fast that my computer is using 15/16gb of my ram. I have never heard some of the sounds that my pc is making and im genuinely scared for my safety. Please slow it down a little bit. My monitor has permanent burn in on the right side of my screen from the white text going so fast. I'm unable to even turn off the stream because google chrome is not responding.
It’s not the chat, the chat usually spams emotes but the difference with kicks chat and twitches are that kick doesn’t have delay
When they fix their servers and improve the site...oh man,idc what reddit says kick has potential
as a marketing tool for Stake's gambling
@@TrianglePants yeah cause Amazon (who owns twitch) is not a bad company that does way worse shit than gambling...yall are so dense
i was watching hikaru on kick react to the twitch stream and there was nearly milliseconds of delay with both streams open, like me watching hikaru on kick watching x on twitch, while i watch x on twitch on another tab, no delays
@@AeG-nd3mf Kick is God awful, it'll never pick up because it's just that bad. Mixer and Ninja situation.
The chat is so cooked lmao needs a slow mode or something
I feel like they should integrate a delay feature with streaming where you can add delay or have none so that there won't be any stream snipers when xQc plays matchmaking games but no delay when xQc just wants to react or chill.
already a feature, youll see it used constantly w players playing competive games. u can change duration too
You can do it with OBS but yea not everyone uses OBS
@@ioguuu gs
Bro gets a 100mil contract and watches ramsey
bro im not able to watch xqc on kick. the homepage loads but streams are not loading it says some 404 error help me............
Same brother its joever
if only the site wasn’t ran by gambling rejects
who asked
@@lalter_ man stfu with yo weird ass do not tell me who asked with an anime pfp and uploading geometry dash videos ik you’re not telling me who asked. Irrelevant ass grown man😭
People who wanna know if anything shady is going on??
Stupid zoomer quip.
It's owned by a gambling company called Stake. xQc got paid 100m to move to another website that he could continue his addiction on.
It wouldnt exist then
That's all there is to it. I have yet to embark on my journey of watching streamer xQc after countless years. When I contemplated opening the stream on Kick, my computer continued functioning flawlessly, without any problems. In my mind's eye, I visualized the chat moving at such a rapid pace that it seemed as though my monitor would actually tear apart. I pondered the possibility of the website overwhelming the power grid in my vicinity, causing an overflow of electricity throughout my entire street. I even entertained the idea of utilizing my ability to connect with the outside world. Essentially, the imaginary Kick experience overloaded my dream neighborhood. Thank you, xQc, for such an exhilarating prospect.
Oh wow it's almost like not being stuck using 2013 tech is an improvement.
crazy how that many people pressed the enter key
I thought no-delay chat could have existed a long time ago, but since there is no competition for twitch in terms of delay chat, they didn't upgrade it until kick using it.
My understanding is it requires specific settings that don't come with default with OBS. Mixer had their own release of OBS which was modified to support 250 ms delay, practically no delay. I could be wrong but it seems like it would have been a lot of effort on Mixer's part if they could have achieved it without their own fork of OBS.
@@MINIMAN10000 i mean don't kick and twitch both use the same shit from amazon to stream?
@@coldpotatoes9687 Yes, kick uses AWS IVS which is Twitch as a service. It's just a really stupid idea to have your chat moving that fast. It makes it impossible to interact with the community.
@@joniverso What do you think delay means in this context? Is getting sprayed with a fire hose more bearable if you wait a second beforehand?
I thought there was a delay in Twitch chat in order to enable moderation.
There’s so few people on the platform that there’s 0 delay lmao
as a sharingan user its finally nice to practice my jutsu on the chat 🤓
Gotta give it to twitch its just better as a platform but the management sucks
Obviously they had more time to develop but still i don’t know how kick can do a 100mil deal but can’t add basic features to their platform
Twitch decided to cater to cam girls and be cheap.
The Twitch meatriding is crazy
Thats it. My 4 years of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
Love the guy in the background glazing kick really adds to the insanity of it
AMAZING REACTION KEEP THEM COMING IF I DONT GET ANOTHER XQC REACTION SOON I MIGHT NOT MAKE IT
Do you guys think kick gave him a prioritised connection
i mean maybe they gave him a 100 million dollar deal 😭
I think they gave the whole site better connection, as the execpt more people to join on the day
You're witnessing a trillionaire here people
Crazy what a 5 year gap between backend technologies looks like
Way larger than a five year gap. Twitch still hosts and manages their own data centers. Amazon took the streaming tech twitch created and integrated it with their cloud. Meaning any random person can now have twitch’s streaming tech combined with an almost infinitely scaling Amazon infrastructure behind it. Amazon flat out bought twitch just to do this. They’re probably making more money off of kick paying them a bill each month for service/infra usage than whatever stupid ass shit twitch is trying to do. Amazon just monopolized streaming in no time
now he wont get one guy'd
hes gonna get two guyd
This is what happens when you allocate all your bandwidth to a single streamer. 😂
I think this might actually be true 💀 People couldn't make accounts, existing users couldn't start their own streams, website crashing. But hey everything for X was flawless 🤣🤣
@@HK1_11They didn’t allocate bandwidth to Xqc… they don’t have to given the fact they use Amazon’s streaming service called IVS. It’s literally twitch’s streaming tech packaged up as a cloud service backed by Amazon’s infrastructure. It’s built to scale up or down depending on users. All automatically without kick worrying about a thing. Now, that’s assuming the group that owns kick invested in some good engineers to develop/design their shit well with Amazon’s cloud. If they did and they only have some UI updates to do then they are golden. If they don’t understand Amazon’s cloud too well and did a shoddy job they could potentially be focusing on Xqc. I don’t know enough, but kick will be fine server/tech wise
@@BlissfulEDM This almost sounds like an AWS' IVS tech advertisement lmao.
Surprised he didn’t know before jumping on board
He probably needs a plugin for the chat, without the delay there is no shot he can read any chat message.
Its not letting me click "accept" on Kicks ToS
same
probs bcuz many people is also trying to create an account at the same time FeelsBadMan
Thats it. My 1 second of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
Bro quit copying other comments
@@somebody69 Thats it. My 1 second of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
@@somebody69
somebody
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Bro quit copying other comments
@@somebody69 Bro quit copying other comments
@@minimushrom @minimushrom
17 minutes ago
@somebody69
somebody
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Bro quit copying other comments
it's only happening now since Kick isn't nearly as loaded as Twitch is.
if it gains more viewers and more load on their servers, it will probably become similar.
I think you’re wrong. It’s been forever since the asshats at Amazon touched Twitch. They have good server host, but lack a good CDN. Hellen Keller could code something better
3 second delay
Dose xqcs stream freeze and lag for other people or id my WiFi bugging
If the chat spams even though I don't have it open it lags the stream for me lol
@@rma72same
that was in sane
Thats it. My century of watching streamer xQc has come to an end. After opening the stream on kick, my computer instantly crashed and will not turn on again. The chat was going so fast that my monitor actually started smoking. The site must've also shorted the power grid where i live because my whole street is without power now. i do not have any ability to contact the outside world. Kick basically EMP'ed my fucking neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc
its because big companies are forced to run copyright and other checks. Which kick completely skips.
It's funny how the website is still broken lmaooo
15 minutes delay?
It makes no sense for Twitch to have automatic delay anyway when you can set it yourself
Now he can take his React Andy Headazz to a whole notha level‼️
Uh but that chat doesn't appear to be readable by any stretch. Isn't some delay actually required?
i cant even make an account LULW
Only downside I've seen, the stream will actually lag if you have low hardware lmao
Kick is experiencing stability issues due to immense traffic (50x our usual).
Not your hardware but kick servers.
The stream doesn’t even open for me 😂
"Only downside" Bro you living under a fucking rock??????????
@@AboveInShadow Actually it's a Cloudflare problem. Which is weird because they should have scalable servers. Makes me think Kick is also getting DDoS'd.
It's so fast yet no wonder it drained my phone battery from 100% to 0% in 30 minutes
Gonna miss the juicer, happy for him though, thats a insane deal. Wierd Kick dont have that feeding delay twitch have, but should be a small issue to fix.
Insane deal because they know they'll get all the money back when he blows it on Stake gambling websites.
He's still allowed to stream on twitch btw
He's a sellout. And all that for gambling too
@@grey.2663bro is acting like u wouldnt say yes to 100 million LMAO
@@papasitox1027 bro doing tricks on milionaire's dick. Maybe try to get a new hobby
I wonder if the adept situation is part of why he moved, everyone on Twitch loves to virtue signal but get mysteriously silent on certain issues, it's disgusting honestly. And Train seems to always have X's back
go touch grass and stop being such a parasocial Andy
I would have his back too if I get dirty load of money out of it, especially so when I'm a part owner of kick.
@@ymw1107 Don't shit talk about shit you don't know about boy
I think its just about the money. I mean cmon, a 100 mil non-exclusive deal? Thats brutal, everyone would do that.
🐱
I hope kick will be a Twitch Killer this time
I made a video on why Kick is the REAL Twitch killer
That's it. My no years of watching streamer xQc have yet to begin. After considering opening the stream on kick, my computer continued working properly without issues. I imagined the chat that was going so fast that my monitor actually started tearing apart. I thought about the site surging the power grid where i live and my whole street overflowing with power. I considered using my ability to contact the outside world. Kick from imagination basically overloaded my dream neighborhood. Thanks so much xQc?
@@demi8890 If you'd pay attention you'd notice there are multiple version of the copied comments, they all have slight differences, mine just went even further in changes. It's all shitposts anyway
@@demi8890 ur dim asf
@@demi8890 This is just a new xqc copypasta
This isn't about performance though, Twitch does the delay on purpose so you can actually read atleast one message when chat is this fast
they mean chat delay as in the delay there is between the streamer in REAL TIME and the chat, not how fast the chat is going
@@eivmordeguzman1197 Ah I see
Kick got that kick in it
Is not about new tech, it's about the number of twitch users compared to kick.
Kick is down LMAO
Kick is experiencing stability issues due to immense traffic (50x our usual).
I mean, x did maintain 60k viewers all the way through the stream so there where a lot lot of people, and the problems really just started to get noticeable at the end
Stability issues are because their servers are being stressed. That shouldn't under most circumstances effect the stream or stream delay, as they SHOULD be on a seperate server (even if housed in the same building).
This should also be true for twitch. So long as the servers are healthy and stable, no matter how many users are on the site, stream delay fluctuation shouldn't be an issue, and should be as low as possible.
Twitch literally just hasn't bothered to implement zero stream delay.
@@evangalinsky2499bro, quit talking about things you don’t know so confidently. Kick uses Amazon web services IVS. Amazon took the entirety of twitch’s streaming tech and integrated it with their cloud and provided it to the public so anyone can develop their own streaming platform. It’s literally the nitty gritty of twitchs streaming engineering backed by an almost infinitely scaling backend infrastructure. People only run into issues if they don’t develop their application, website, backend, etc around AWS properly and there are many moving parts to where you could bottleneck your shit. I didn’t tune in but I’m guessing the streaming itself didn’t have a lot of issues but some of the sites features did. The site itself probably integrates Amazon’s IVS to provide the actual streaming and only that. Things such as the actual webpage itself tanking out due to traffic is not an indication of the streaming quality, but with how they’re hosting/designer their API and front end interface. Amazon’s streaming service could technically get a random load of tens of millions of users within a few minutes and handle it perfectly fine. But that does not mean the actual web interface, chat, etc is scaling like it should and that can cause everything to tank. They have some issues to work out, but even if they crash and burn someone else will come along using Amazon’s streaming service and implement it better than the previous group and we will keep seeing progress
twitch chat was designed poorly from the start, but they have kept the artificial delay on purpose. the "bursts" of messages on Twitch are FAR easier to read, and you don't struggle tracking a message up the screen. with Twitch, you get at least 0.5-1 seconds to read each message before the next burst comes. this system does not give you any time to read a message.
just make a 5 minute delay
@@OsmixPL A FIVE MINUTE DELAY?!?! AND THEN WHAT?!?!?!
they’re talking about stream delay not chat stutters
@@oh-noe i meant slowmode
My phone did not fry at all ...
Not sponsored content btw.
I can't even follow Xqc on kick using my phone, the app needs to be optimize, how do you expect people to go on kick and watch their streamer when the app itself suck ass. If they can spend a 100 million on Xqc surely they can spend hundreds of thousands to improve their app right?
Exactly. Sad but predictable for a gambling giant to shell out big bucks for promotions, but not preemptive infrastructure upgrades.
I have noticed this too. On a stream I send a chat and it shows up on screen like instantly
no traffic no things to process
The only way you can watch this is with some super computer. Luckily, xQc now has the funds to send everyone in chat their own RTX 4090 pc so they can all finally watch the stream! I'll be checking in the mail every day for it! xqcL
when you send socket to socket without storing anything for moderation purposes, yes lmfao
actually unfiltered, but that's just it
twitch chat is unfiltered they get delete at ur end and u can see what was deleted with the right tools, twitch is just lazy
LOL twitch does not hold comments, they post it first and then check it afterwards. I'm pretty sure xQc have said this clarifying why his chat sometimes are very offensive/braindead but it actually gets deleted a second later by Twitch.
@@lachlantrescott5533 not only that but both use the same thing twitch stream whatever it called. Amazon sell the right to use what twitch built to use.
@@rushyscoper1651 1. you join a twitch chat without any extension and it will show the history of the chat, in any streamers room 2. streamer can delete a message and it will delete it for everyone, so some kind of storage is present 3. it's very clear you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about 4. some messages are not even sent out if they're moderated on the client, you will not see shadowbanned user messages and such messages from other users.
@@lachlantrescott5533 you just said they do not hold comments, but then you say they check it second later, how do you check a message that's in history without storing it? you're an absolute genius :) go drink some milk
Just goes to show you how well designed twitch is. Twitch doesn’t spam you with this insanity.
the meat riding is insane
that's what I was thinking. won't it be hard to read the chat?
Bro doing tricks on it
Tf you mean? Yes it does.
@didntask6019 he can add a delay time between messages sent per user. People were intentionally spamming during this too. It's the same speed as his chat previously it's just less delayed.
Give it a minute. Once traffic has reached peak numbers, check for latency again.
Some people saw it faster than others though. People typed 1 immediately after you finished saying the word one.
1
1
1
That actually makes it tougher for stream snipers lmao
Bro my Apple ID is locked and I can’t download kick 💀
everytime chat spammed something the website crashed for me. i was using a school chromebook
No, I missed the continuation of Hell's Kitchen! i need to see Gunna go home! 😂
Now everyone can see in the real time xqcs reaction to hells kitchen
Seems like Kick become New Benchmark for PC Performance
THERE ARE LITERAL CHAT PAUSERS
"No wait.. thats IN SAYYNNNE."