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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2019
- Boeing Chief Executive Dennis Muilenburg testifies before the Senate Commerce Committee on grounded 737 MAX that was involved in two fatal crashes that killed 346 people. Read more: wapo.st/2WnK25y. Subscribe to The Washington Post on RUclips: wapo.st/2QOdcqK
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I am an aircraft mechanic. All I know is, aircraft are so safe because of redundant critical systems. The MCAS didn't have any redundancy and only relied on 1 sensor. BIG MISTAKE. Boeing is 100% at fault and rather divert the questions they need to accept they made a mistake and move forward OR rather admit they ignored the issue all together. It’s going to be very hard to explain why one of the leading aircraft manufacturers in the world missed this issue. My assumption was It must have cost too much money!!! Everything is about the all mighty dollar and aircraft schedule, until someone gets killed. Every aircraft I ever worked on has had multiple points of fail-safe protocols when it comes to safety of flight systems. An example would be two flight data computers, multiple AOA probes, multiple copies of systems, everything that has the ability to bring a plane down has multiple copies which creates redundancy. Redundancy creates the safest airplane because things WILL fail and when they do, you want to have a backup system to keep the plane flying until it gets to the nearest airport. Sometimes these events are emergency related and require the plane to land immediately. It’s a shame and I am disappointed in Boeing. My opinion is this, Boeing realized the MCAS was not designed properly on the first crash but with so many aircraft already built, modifying the MCAS system would affect scheduling. Not only would scheduling fall behind it would cost a tremendous amount of money to ground all Boeing's until the MCAS systems were fixed. So, scheduling and cost were two leading factors in this event. I also conclude that the FAA didn't know about the single fail point because they would have grounded all aircraft immediately. The FAA would have issued an emergency Airworthiness Directive. The AD would have had to be complied with before the aircraft could fly again. I know Boeing knew about the problem because I have worked for manufacturers. I know the process and I know what’s more important to them and its schedule and money NOT safety. Safety becomes a priority only when big accidents like this happen. Hence, the safety programs Boeing spontaneously developed AFTER the accidents. I have never heard of a proactive company! WHY? because you put money before the problem. Companies prefer to put the problem before money until something bad happens. Then its false apologizes and we made a mistake. There is a difference between mistake and gross negligence. In this case, I will let you decide.
The CEO knows it. You can just tell he wants to cry. Looked scared throughout the whole process.
Good actor...
He is lying throughout the whole thing. If you noticed he and his engineer avoided questions regarding wether they made a mistake.
If he’s found guilty it’s probably 100 years in jail for him and the others...that’s why he’s scared 😟.
Why does he still have a job, got blood on his hands,it's outrageous.
He get gets the money?
@@cmulder002 He gets $20 Mil a year! Plus benefits.
@@CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq yea that would override having a conscious....
Because if Boeing replaces him now, the next CEO will be biting dust on this as well. They are letting Muilenberg take the heat. When this dies down a little, he'll be gone in no time
@@CaliforniaGirl-qk5kq also why does one need to have $20 Mil to live on? sounds he is rather poor at his finances since he expects his lowest payed workers to live on much less.
This CEO shady AF...all showmanship, then do nothing...
Muilenburg " We learned and we're still learning ", This means( in future)there will be more crashes to learn from ! It seems that the culture of Boeing is to experiment in real time, since the lives of the victims are less valued than the bonuses and rewards of the top executives, board of directors and shareholders.
especially when those lives are Muslims
*Mullenburg didn't get that deep tan by keeping his nose to the grindstone in Everett this summer!*
Money was more important than the safety of the passengers.
Can you even fathom that last moments of those lives lost on those two flights? the sheer terror of that aircraft nose diving to earth.....this man may not be directly accountable for their deaths but he is indirectly. How he can live with himself is beyond comprehension. Boeing was a great company Now this.
Jack The Skittle I don’t see Airbus planes falling from the sky recently
Jack The Skittle not to mention the engine failures were not on Boeing but on Rolls Royce.
Gen. Douglas McDonalds he’s right. Air France A330 perished in the ocean due to a mcas type feature on the airplane. Airbus learned from their mistakes and they’re now an amazing company. Boeing will get this together.
Jack The Skittle are you saying it out of blind patriotism??? Or is the ceo burner account?? No great company would let a flawed aircraft like that fly, i use to prefer boeing over airbus but nah not now
How DARE he say there is a culture of safety in Boeing. We KNOW THIS TO BE A LIE.
What did Boeing learn ? lie better !
Their is definite deceit behind his answers. The more he speaks the more annoyed I get. Lock him up!!
Sock him up...……….if speaking is the problem.
Improvements in flight safety, as I understand from the aviation technical experts, has been improved due to redundancies. Why there's no redundancy in the AOA sensor to begin with?
There is redundancy in the AOA system. It it the MCAS system that is tied into the AOA sensors that is the problem. Boeing gave it command authority over everything else, even the pilots. All with one sensor. It is a ghost system as it was hidden from owners and pilots. When MCAS commanded the nose down, it used the elevator trim . The elevator trim uses a large motor driving a heavy jack screw. It generates a 200 Lb force on the control column at the same time. There was almost no way for both the pilot and FO to pull the columns back. The trim wheels were frozen in the forward/down position too by that same force. They had on the order of 12 seconds from alarm to ground level. If there had even been a routine in the manual, they would have still crashed before reading it all.
Because if they had two AOA sensors pilots would need simulater training and that's what Boeing didnt want. Was a huge selling point of the 737 Max. That's why they put one AOA.. I watched it on the news.
I love how "Jedi mind tricks" is part of a senate hearing.
They are not sorry. The only reason that the 737MAX ever see the light of day was profit and greed.
That's what i was thinking. Their is no easy those pilots weren't doing everything they know to do from training. When you get trained they train you on emergency situations as I know from getting tons of training that's the main thing you have to know. For those plans to have a control system that put the nose down into the ground and they can't pull up. Wonder what that video looked like two pilots pulling with everything they have to pull up. Because the ground is coming. Stupid Boeing is just paying the faa to approve their faulty systems and they knew it. They meant in a room and talked at a round table about what could come with time if they left this system their. They nodded and turned their noses to the truth.
Boeing new Motto....MCAS...."Making Cash Avoiding Safety"
Daayyuuuumm
NOICE
More like “May Crash Any Second”
Well no safety embedded in Boeing credo if there was no safety it would have survived in these industry will lose major ground to its arch rival AIRBUS.
After all his years in the industry, I still can't believe that the dude at the helm of Boeing, is not even a private pilot!
He is an aerospace engineer.
David Ahuja
He could be both. I know a lot of pilots who are also engineers!
@@Nostradamus_Order33 Yes he could, but anyway an aerospace engineer has more knowledge about the aircrafts and spacecrafts than a pilot. We are talking about design.
You knew the plane was unstable thats why you created the mcas to try to make a unstable plane fly correctly.
What would really help the future of aviation safety is if Muilenburg were charged with 346 counts of manslaughter and negligence causing death, and thrown in jail. Many CEO's out there would get the message, and many things would improve.
starts at 16:15
Thank you.
Things went downhill when MacDonald Douglas bought Boeing with Boeing's money.
Funny one
I like his name tho
We think about you every day while we are playing golf.
And while we snort coke ,and screw hoars on our private YACHTS!🤫🤫
Boeing is the new Bethesda
“It just works”
-Todd Howard
I know this company too well. It profit over safety. They continued to sell and produce the 737max knowing the flaw. Safety is 3rd at hand not 1st
What is 2nd?
"Senator...We do not sell Safety"
Did he really say that?
car salesman..."there are no brakes on this car....we don't sell safety."
Boeing doesn’t sell safety... they build it.
CTS and what do you know about the aviation industry?
He meant that boeing provides safety on it’s planes at no extra cost.
Can't believe these corporates behave like cheap half literates, not answering the questions asked
The catch cry is.....I don’t remember...or I don’t recall....or I vaguely remember that....and he’s running an international worldwide business? ...Scary!
HiiighAsAKite - His image is more important then the 345 lives lost...obviously? He not giving answers because....he stuffed up big time himself.
This is all by design on the corporations side.
PRODUCTION AND PROFIT TO THE SHARE HOLDER'S IS THE ONLY GOAL FOR CORPORATION'S
Such a tragic day for all those people who lost their loved ones. I am hoping that the CEO will go to prison, he can sit there nodding his head, but he knew precisely that the Boeing 737 max had major flaws before the 2 crashes, that makes him guilty.
Snake in a suit.
Please don’t allow this plane to fly again
Very progressional and respectful
This is just a show. None of this matters.
i had this thought also but that would mean everybody knows the role of the others and the outcome of this hearing. There is too many human fatalities involved and tens of billions of money. It is not a show. Muilly does a show, he was clearly instructed how to "act". It is obvious that he dont own what happened, refusing any responsibility or cooperation. It matters in the way that this case is brought to a greater audience and presentation of the proven facts. If that helps the flying public to refuse to board this type of plane, it matters..
@@sylviadivinora2286 Nobody needs a "democratic" show in your country to reach the conclusion that it's not ideal to fly in a 737 MAX. In addition, cracking has been found this month on heavily used 737 NG jets that were undergoing overhaul in China. While this latter problem shouldn't cause an issue, especially when it has already been identified prior to the development of any related tragedies, I shall still not fly in a boeing when it is possible to avoid them. I just wish that I had been trained as an engineer so that I can help China's Comac develop its own jets. Perhaps when there is more competition, more than what a duopoly entails, everybody would be better off. I hope I'll get to help the Chinese aerospace industries in some way some day.
@@sylviadivinora2286 I think after two preventable crashes, and the fact that the plane was grounded, means nobody is going to fly on them. The proven facts are already out there. This is just a bunch of show so the public can see Boeing get smacked around a bit and then business will go on as usual.
Don't say that ! Must to be justice !!!
He needs to go to jail
Pretty sure nobody from the Boeing company will ever take a Boeing 737 max plane.🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I believe FAA equally involves to certified , in so many occasions FAA has ignored NTSB reports in previous crashes
Airlines should just go for quality and stick with Airbus!!
Eyeofthetiger - Airbus has had a few crashes as well. The Qantas 72 incident (A330) was similar in origin to the MAX crashes. It didn’t crash, but only because the captain was highly skilled and had a lot of altitude to work with. There were serious injuries.
@@GH-oi2jf just had a look at the Quantas incident you mentioned and although that incident also involved an AOA sensor,there are crucial differences between the Airbus's and the Max's MCAS systems- 1) the Airbus systems relied on the inputs from 3 sensors as opposed to just 1 which unfortunately was the case in both crashes with the Max and the pilots had no idea that the sensor was faulty.
2) unlike Boeing with the MCAS, Airbus didn't deliberately set out to conceal the existence of the system from the pilots!
3) lastly, the Quantas flight didn't crash because the pilots were able to override the system on the Airbus, UNLIKE the MCAS!(I am pretty certain had that flight crashed, Airbus's response would have been very different to Boeing's,and wouldn't have allowed a second crash to happen! ie,an immediate grounding would have been issued,once the facts are established!)
And guess who supplied the faulty sensor to Airbus? Northrup Grumman,an American company! Enough said; should have gone with a European supplier. Lol.
How is that neither the board members nor the committee have a pilot on board
I will never fly with a boeing again
FAA ❤ Boeing - A killing love story...
Game over! Sad that they sacrificed that glorious company trying to save their incompetent asses.
I'd rather walk than risk my life flying on 373 max instant death !! MCAS
May
Crash
Any
Second
From how he responds to those questions, I’m pretty sure he knows those issues and failed to inform the pilots and engineers. Yet they still decided to sell those planes for hundreds of millions of dollars, and yet they offered $100 million to the victims? They should all go to jail for what they did...
And I just checked the price of Boeing 737 Max, it starts from $96 million!! They sold more than a hundred of it, yet they offered $100 million for the victim’s’ family? Lmao in a most horrible way🤬🤬🤬
Normally they swear in a witness before testimony. I wonder why they didn’t in this case? He cannot be charged for perjury if he lies.
commitment to safety???, that should start at the beginning of the process, not after 346 deaths.
That guy belongs in jail for killing people!!!
Why they not focus on the placement the engines on the frame, MCAS will not be need.
because then they would have to redesign the entire airplane. That is one point: it's a plane being reformed since 1967 and there is a limit on to how extent you can do that without creating a frankenstein. MCAS should not try to pilot the plane.
Manuel Rocha - Because the location of the engines is irrelevant. You are getting your information from people who know nothing about airplanes.
@@GH-oi2jf That's not true. Manuel is right! The 737 Max tends to pitch up because of the positioning *and* size of its engines. You can look it up. The crashing was caused by the fact that on takeoff the rate of change of the nose position is of the same degree as when entering an aerodynamic stall with the nose pitched up. The software mistook that reading to mean the plane was stalling -- not taking off -- which led to both crashes.
CEO seems to be clueless, passive and not verbalizing his thoughts and Boeing position well. Currently lawyers are mostly talking instead.
One wonders how on earth did he hold such a responsible work position?
Im just sitting here thinking ehy aint the faa telling their side of the story
Try standing
zero fuks given here by the boing ceo
Im even surprised this person still wants to remain as ceo. When I saw those pictures that hurt
At the end of the day, FAA approved the plane to be air-worthyness. Boeing said they put priority on safety but NOT over profit and company bottomline. FAA as a regulatory agency is responsible for the two fatal flights. Period.
Ignorant conclusion. The FAA does not approve. The function has been usurped by the companies they are supposed to regulate. Ignorance is going to ultimately destroy us as a country.
One day they grill Boeing´s CEO, the next day they order a new 747 to replace Air Force One. Great Logic
LACSACR I’m guessing because at the end of the day it’s the only American aircraft company that could provide a plane suitable for presidential service; they’re not gonna go and buy a French Airbus for the U.S President when they have Boeing as an American company, as rough as the situation in Boeing might be.
@@luismartinez2596 also a matter of national security/breach of information
1:10:08 oh wow look at his body language. taking big breath gulps cos he knows he's gotta be evasive with the truth. this is not a confident man or an honest man.
Never trust people who cannot say yes or no to a yes/no question.
@3.24 did he say doomed to seller or filer?
Only ms duckworth spoke frankly and truly and real simple.
787 quality control below airline standards, $3.5 billion over-run on KC-46, 737 MCAS can of worms, etc etc. So tell us, Mr Muilenburg, are you enjoying your bonus? You have driven Boeing's rep into the ground, time to go. It doesn't matter who actually caused these problems, they happened on your watch and as CEO you have done ZERO to make things right. No one will miss you, except maybe some deluded shareholders. Remember, all this is just a prelude to the 346 homicide liability trials to follow. The families of all those victims pray for you to burn in hell. Bye bye, Dennis The Menace.
SUCH GREED
The Boeing Showed is how huge companies cut corners, disgraceful. All because of money 💰 so sad so true.
How does this man sleep at night?!!
why does Cantwell refer to Air France pitot tubes so many times, it was pilot error. there is a procedure for keeping the aircraft in level flight by setting attitude and power when airspeed is lost. there are 6 pitot tubes but the 3rd officer on the flight panicked and pulled the joystick back till it fell into the Atlantic.
airspeed indication ....
Rather incredulous when CEO Muilenburg claimed he was not aware of the damaging memo ("stim went crazy")until just a few weeks before his testimony. HIs dodgy answers was all over the place. "I first heard about it after the 1st crash, that it was some kind of stimulator issue, that one of the two involved in the memo no longer is with the company. At no time did CEO Mully taken the memo seriously and personally gathered 1st hand information. Instead, he blamed his legal team for leaving him in the dark. Why is this clueless man still at the helm?
Boing should be shut down forever
Sunny Singh - Ok by me, as long as Boeing survives and is rehabilitated.
It’ll be a cold, dark day in hell before THAT happens.
Boeing "We don't sell safety" Only true statement this S.O.B. made
It that the terminater 2 sitting behind mullinberg?
Mr tester hit the nail on top of the head.
This senator is more of an aviation expert than a politician
He need to arrested and jailed !!!
a fine example of corporate greed
It is incredibly painful to see where this horrible CEO that only cares for $$$ and profit, brought Boeing to this awful mess..!!
The entire Boeing boards needs to be fired for their egregious oversight failures. There is no excuse. And they need to be sued for everything they have ever made from their board level compensation to cover as much as possible of the damages. Boeing really lacks an activist investor. This is outrageous.
Trey Gowdy needs to get his hands on this guy for 5 minutes!
I didn’t research, whether, the airplane that vanished some years ago. In the Asia - India territories was a 737 but we’ll never know . Multiple countries have yet to recover the wreckage . Seems like it could of been the tip of the iceberg yrs ago .
How about you give eveyworker your email and they can take a concern straight to you.
FAA's primary mandate is not safety. It is promotion of the aviation industry in the U.S. It's even documented as such.
737 design is fine without MCAS. Its a stable plane. Airlines wanted it to handle like the previous versions of the 737 so thats why MCAS was installed. So pilots wouldn't need more training. They should have made it a separate type rating and been done with it.
Mr ekg98 - They were trying to give their customers what they wanted. A new type rating would have cost the customers more money.
*All Boeing needed to do was: 1. exercise common sense design 2. NOT LIE about the system..... and all would be good.*
1:44:21 After Ms Duckworth's grilling, It's the only time I've seen reality rammed down Muilenburg's throat, and boy was it hard to swallow... 1:49:51
We have no desire to hide features pilots need to know about. What ....... how do decide what they need to know about all and every feature should be showed.
They knew at one point that there could be as many as 15 crashes in the next 10 years because of the MCAS system and that was before it was put on the planes their own test pilot was trying to keep it from the training manual
Why is Former Boeing CEO Dennis Muielnburg been testified? Dennis was fired in 2019. Why isn't current Boeing CEO David Calhoun testified? This man has been CEO since Jan 2020.
Because this Senate Commerce Committee was streamed over four years ago
What is going on with the guy in the red and blue striped tie? His eyes!
It appears to me that everybody thought the AOA sensor malfunctioned in the Lion Air and Ethiopian Air crashes. I believe the AOA sensor was giving out the correct signal in both accidents. Both accidents happened at take off. The AOA sensor would be giving out a signal that indicates a high angle of attack. It is the software that interprets the signal as a stall condition.
Boeing's latest changes to put in two sensors and to limit the trim is not enough to guarantee safety because they have not got to the root cause. To distinguish a take off condition from a stall condition, the MCAS needs an altitude input so that it knows whether the plane is climbing or falling. If the plane is climbing, it's take off and MCAS should do nothing. If the plane is falling, then it's stalling and MCAS should trim the nose up.
If the original design of the MCAS has no altitude input, this would be the root cause of the accidents. If the latest changes to the MCAS still don't have an altitude input, Boeing engineers are amateurs!
Had these accidents or even one of them happened to majority passengers being American or on American soil Boeing would not be in business.
With all this evidence, Bowing would have been done for.
Put all the Boeing executives on a max plane and fly for a week. We will see what they say. Safety my foot!
Boeing squeezed a legacy design one more generation to maximize profits. They needed to fit the newer fuel efficient engines but they could not fit under the wings, so they moved them up and forwards, upsetting the weight and balance of the aircraft. So, they "fixed" the hardware problem with software solution. A system to "help" pilots keep the aircraft in trim. But they only installed one sensor for that system with no redundancy. Then they omitted telling, training or otherwise warning the new owners or pilots of the system . It was not in the manuals for that aircraft. They also gave that ghost system command authority over the pilots. They disregarded information and feedback from their own test pilots. They buried test information. Anyone else would be going to prison and out of business, but this is the sacred BOEING, favored child of the military contractors.
Is there any report that states the CEO & their chief engineer flew to DC -- prior to this congressional inquiry -- on a Boeing 737-Max as a demonstration of trust on their AC?
Kidding aside, I apparently sense that they will push the B737-Max back in the air despite the fundamental design flaw you've mentioned.
As per mentioned by the Boeing CEO in this congressional enquiry, they did a lot of revising (i.e., updates) in their software. But as to the structural design flaw, nothing was ever mentioned.
I'm not a technical person when it comes to aviation. But I understand how good designs work & how bad designs don't work. Bad designs will always find its way into being expressed regardless of how one covers them.
Your post should be pinned to the top of this series of comment threads. Excellent posting!
What about the new problem? Cracks found in 737NG. Are they going to wait for some of those to crash before admitting to the problem?
Grumpy Oldman That issue is due to age, not an inherent design flaw. All of the 30 some affected NG’s are being sent to Boeing for repair in Victorville CA...
@@macflanagan1296
This cracks appeared to early, much before airplane designed life cycle. I think it is again quality problem.
Muilenburg cant even give a simple 'yes' or 'no' answer, instead giving manipulated answers whilst burning the limited time that senators had to question him, the manner to which he said 'senator' to the start of every answer was frustrating also.
Lol I thought I was the only one that noticed that. Beyond irritating, simple yes and no answer questions responded with politically correct safety mumbo jumbo. Like a robot repeating the same BS about safety being priority when it obviously isn't hence the reason MCAS was created in the 1st place instead of a brand new design. He needs to humble down and take accountability
How can you tell when a Boeing executive is lying?
Their lips are moving.
No wonder Airbus has a good reputation and sticks to safety
Why wasn’t the FAA present ?
They already haved been a few months ago.
CEO is completely deferential to shareholders and lawyers, ridiculous.
Ms Cantwell, perhaps look into the regulator i.e FAA. Government bodies are renowned for reducing regulatory staff numbers and therefore costs, pushing these back onto independent certifiers and manufacturers. Maybe the government should bolster some of the blame for reducing certification requirements
*She was reading from the Brazillian B737max8 PILOT MANUAL! Mullenburg's face went WHITE!*
By his admissions, are insurers paying up claims for both Hull and Liability? Indemnification of the claims will surely set a bad precedent for the Aviation insurance industry.
WHY THE F IS THIS IN MY SEARCH HISTORY WHEN I DIDN'T EVEN SEARCH FOR IT!!
Lock him up.
When people lie in front of billions around the world how then do they believe they can be trusted. Imo America has a problem with trust and we began noticing this during the Iraq war.
if you think it began with Iraq there is a dead Catholic president that wants to have a word with you...
aliens in senate
I just noticed this was from four years ago. So what ended up happening? Did this smooth talking CEO lose his job or do jail time?
IMO the FAA is complacent with Boeing in this tragedy.
1:45:30 good for her! Watch the red spot on her neck getting redder and redder as she describes the failures of this airplane to that arrogant CEO. You know she wants the truth but tbe CEO will keep obliquely blaming the pilots.