NVG 30 Vs Night Fox Prowl
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Digital is not for the poor. I own 2 Gen 3 analogs including high spec L3 filmless WP and Thermal and yet I use NVG30. I see them as tools and use them for different applications. NVG30 really shines in the urban area where you have to deal with street light, house light, etc.
That’s a great perspective! Thank you so much for that!
I used both digital and analogue and can partially agree. It is definitely the cheaper option and it normally wouldn't be my first recommendation but it has its advantages.
I think where digital shines is either handheld or rifle mounted with IR. Its great for pest control and hunting. IR is actually beneficial in that use case as animal fur and eyes tend to reflect quite nicely and highlight the animal for you. Digital also is great for the transitional period where its too dark to see into shadows but too bright for NVGs.
I do think however digital as a wearable device is idiotic. It doesn't work well and is not comfortable for prolonged periods of time. Also if you got a bit more money I'd recommend a used gen 2/3 monocular or thermal.
@@Raz_Tactical Thank you for your input and experience. Would you suppose that it may depend on the specific digital device for as to weather or not it’s wearable?
@@TrainToLIVEinTheTruth I've not come across any digital id want to wear. I've tried sionyx, pvs69, night fox swift/prawl and other Amazon units (they really have great return policy) and none of them are something I'd choose to wear.
Essentially in any environment where you'd wear night vision to navigate you wouldn't want to use IR and digital struggles badly without IR illumination. And if it's bright enough to navigate without IR then I would prefer to use my MK1 eyeballs rather than digital.
@@Raz_Tactical … Of course! If you’ve got analogs, you’re good to go. I’m talking about those who can’t afford that kind of device and can’t put themselves in the market for that. Have you checked out the NVG 30’s? I understand they’re not analog and never will be as good, but they REALLY are more than a cut above all others, I think. I’d love to get your input and insight on how the NVG 30’s do with someone like yourself who’s experienced both sides of the coin.
Awesome comparison! The Prowl is defintely decent for what it is and the FOV is pretty comaprable to the NVG30, however the NVG30 defintely outperforms in low light performance, latency and overall clarity! Keep up the awesome work and thank you so much for sharing this info.
I've owned or used a lot of different night vision units over the years. Everything from a Cold War Soviet PN1 hand held unit to a L3 pvs14. I got a Sionyx Aurora Pro a couple years ago because it was the new cool thing on the market. Color night vision sounds pretty cool, right? Except it's not even close to true color. In all honesty, I wasn't very impressed. I liked the small size, especially compared to my Bushnell Equinox Z digital night vision, but other than that I didn't see the hype. Recently I saw videos of the Prowl and thought it looked like a decent unit. Then I saw videos of the nvg30. Holy hell, the nvg30 is impressive! I ended up buying an nvg30 and I'm selling my Sionyx. Just going off the videos I saw, the nvg30 makes the Sionyx pro look like junk. There's no onboard illuminator on the Sionyx. If you want an onboard illuminator you have to jerry rig one up using an ir flashlight. It's like the design was an afterthought. The picture is super grainy in low light. There's no real good way to head mount it unless you want to pay a couple hundred for some 3d printed parts and a mount, and who the hell wants to walk around holding nv up to your eye the whole time? The picture quality is better in the nvg30, by far! It picks up more in low light without an illuminator than the Sionyx. The color modes look really nice, especially the white phosphor mode. The onboard illuminators work really well. And it's made to be head mounted. Compared to pvs14s I've used, I'd say its damn close! I'm sure there are going to be analog fanboys who are salty that $450 digital night vision can perform just as well as a $3500 unit, but hey, it's the truth. People who denegrate digital nv act like a person who bought a BMW, then got upset that the guy in a Honda next to him got to the same destination at the same time. I guarantee if you had someone who knows nothing about nv and gave them a nvg30 and a pvs14 and asked them which one they thought was better, they would have a hard time deciding.
Wow! What an incredibly amazing perspective and Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge! This makes me extremely grateful and glad that I chose the NVG 30. Thank you!
I tested it against a cheap Fvtga NV4000 in my garage and it’s not even a fair comparison. The NVG30’s are amazing units. 😎
I’m super impressed with mine.
Did you do the firmware update on the prowl? I had the same latency issues before I did the firmware update that allows you to click it into 60hz refresh rate. Once I did that, it's not near as bad. It's actually usable. Still not as fluid as Analog, but it also didn't cost thousands of dollars....
Yes. It was all updated as far as I could tell.
Great video, how did you do to have a colored filter on the Nightfox prowl?
The Prowl has two settings for color (Black & white and Green). You can change them by going into the settings menu.
one of the best vids showing both cameras. thanks for the info, but its still hard to decide if the extra quality is worth it for a few extra hundred dollars
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So, is navigating with either unit doable? I’m thinking for deer hunting in the fall. Navigating to and from and detecting deer.
As far as I can tell, it is a true 1x with about a 40° angle from left to right. I’m certain you can navigate in it.
I have the prowl and I don’t believe it is 1x. If it was true 1x I wouldn’t be searching reviews on the nvg30. The prow is great for messing around but I want something I can navigate without tripping or using my other eye so much.
Do a comparison between this, the sionyx opsin, and your aviation grade L3 unfilmed white phosphor. Would definitely be interested in seeing the difference. I dont have the opsin or the NVG 30 but i have considered getting a digital setup just for shits-n-gigs
I wish I owned all those other devices to make a comparison with. If I had those, I definitely would.
no point comparing to analogue as its in its own league. in regards to opsin it is a decent camera but I still wouldn't use it as a wearable
new to NV in general but does having a 2 make more of a difference? almost seems like you should only have 1 since the fov is a little small.
I honestly can’t speak to that as I don’t have experience wearing two as binoculars. May probably have similar results as having duel tubes on analog night vision. In both cases, the FoV is typically at about 40-50 degrees.
Hey thanks for the review, where did you get you nvg 30's from? What website did you use, thanks!
I got mine from goodnitegearshop.com
Ok, that's the only website I've seen them listed on so far and wasn't sure if there were other options out there. Thanks again @@TrainToLIVEinTheTruth
@@JacobRunner why you should get it from such crazy overpriced resellers? Why not from Ali?
Have you ordered one from ali yet to check the quality?@@aesthetic8780
@@JacobRunner… Well, we already know these things are manufactured over seas and sell directly from their "cheap" websites and apps. Some people don't trust those for several reasons. Sometimes it's because of information selling, sharing or data mining. It may also take a VERY long time for items to be delivered. I've personally recently been burned in that way. So l personally would rather pay just a little bit more for the service of a local (American based) seller. And I prefer to also help out and support a local business. I’ve heard a lot of other stories from people here in the US that have been burned by a product not showing up… ever. Or the product arrives but later when there’s a default with it, there’s nowhere to send it back to and no one to help. That’s why.
Does the nvg30 have adjustable diopter, as im long sighted so would otherwise struggle to see into the viewfinder propely?
It has focused adjustments on both the front end for gross focus and the eye/rear portion for more fine-tuning. You should be able to focus it for yourself just fine.
That was a thorough and well-done video presentation. I have the nightfox and I was disappointed for the screen resolution extremely pixellated and not pleasant to the eyes. From what I see on your presentation the NVG30 screen resolution is smooth and not pixellated. Could you confirm that?
Through the naked eye, the NVG 30 looks even better than it does in these videos because it’s being recorded through my iPhone. Yes, it looks really good. There is very little lag time with movement.
Through the naked eye it looks even better than it does on video since I was recording through my iPhone. The lag time is very low and looks great.
Wow the purple mode of nvg30 looks like the syonix, So cool
The prowl with no ir looks really weird seeing it in colore. Its as if it had lag in day time or thats what it looks like. So knowing it looks like that under dark conditions is kinda mind boggling.
the one with less lag would be my pick. later today i will be getting my first cheap nvg. i went with the night fox swift 2 pro, as i needed to start some where. i want to hike and bike in the dark, i hope the lag doesnt suck, or i will have to return them for something better
They say you have to update the firmware to get rid of the lag
Great review but the nvg 30 doesn't have 850nm while the night fox does, of course you re gonna get more visible to the naked eye but it's still worth saying because that's why they can get away with a worse sensor if you don't plan for shtf
I'd love to see a real low light comparison. Perhaps even compare it to a photonis echo.
I can definitely do an extreme low light video but I don’t own a Photonis Echo.
Did that lowlight video by the way. Did you check it out?
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That is very impressive on how clear it is. Is that true no IR when you were showing it with that?😂😂😂😂
Yes. True Zero active illumination/IR light.
I run a dual nvg30 and it's really nice. I honestly don't feel the need to ditch more money to get analogs since this setup seem to do the job pretty much. I rarely use IR and the latency is prtty much non existent.
Thanks for the comment. I’m also about to order my Mount and bridge system to helmet mount mine. I may also think about running duels.
@@TrainToLIVEinTheTruth duals are definitely worth it. I can even drive a car with duals. You don't feel the latency and the dept perception is really nice. It's a lot of fun to play with.
@@TrainToLIVEinTheTruth another thing to mention; I actually also use it for passive aiming thru a red dot sight. Everything is crisp and clean and no issues. Almost seem to make IR lasers unnecessary.
@@davidtaing6045 Awesome. Thank you.
Just got 2 prowls and bridged them together, they're not the best but they definitely work and I got two prowls for the price on one nvg30
I Understand. I’m sure it looks great.
You get what you pay for
@@Shoelaces77 yup, that's why I even admitted that they're not the best. I'm not dumping a ton of money into cheap digital night vision
I would like to see how ir lazers perform u der these
Be on the look out. Thanks for the video idea. I’ll work on it.
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I got my nvg30 for 350 on Ali. I love it
Link?
Hard to compare when the NVG is $500 and the prowl is $207. Bought it on black friday. Even not on sale its only $250 so really an unfair comparison.
I got my NVG30 from Aliexpress for less than $400.
Not knocking the Prowl! It’s great for what it is and the price point! I actually praise it’s “no IR color mode”. I just didn’t dig the lag when moving.
5:45 Dude, you just captured a spirit orb perfectly in this part of the video please click where I saved the timestamp and put it in slow motion. You’ll see an orb off the right of the screen move slowly. What an interesting Content
I saw it! It usually is a good thing.
Photonis tubes are btter for urban environments
Sweet! Thank you.
Mmh🦇
Does no one with a nvg 30 own a fp lam kinda hilarious at this point
Not sure what that is, but I’ll look into it.
You talking out an IR laser unit?
@@TrainToLIVEinTheTruth yes laser aiming modules